Grinding and Planishing techniques: Austin-Healey 3000 Shroud
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- Grinding and Planishing techniques: Austin-Healey 3000 Shroud
In this video Wray continues to planish out the "Crinkle Wrinkles" in the shroud. He starts by heating up any high spots in the aluminum shroud and hits them back with a hammer and soft body dolly. He also shows how his grinding technique is the preferred method as he only grinds the weld and not so much the parent metal. He continues back on to hammer planishing and also using the slapper, he switches between the two to hit a localized area and then also a wider area. We probably have 1 or 2 more videos left on the shroud and then onto the Talbot Lago!
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I, for one, am not bored with the Healey work! I know it’s a long process to get from the crumpled remains to absolute perfection but it’s a fascinating one! I would really like to see the finished product so please don’t leave us with it unfinished it would be sad to not know how it turned out. Great work and explanation once again.
I agree, this is not boring. Please keep showing it to us until it is finished. Thanks for this excellent series.
I've watched a lot of RUclips videos of guys "restoring" body panels, but I've never see anyone except you take a crumpled up panel and return it to it's original form. This series on the Healey has been a great learning experience.
Never bored with the Healy. Want to see it finished. I am so curious to see how you raise the lower right side to form that proper lemon shape
I'd like to see how it turns out. Mainly I'm interested to see how the final finish is achieved without grinding out the finish.
Wray I'm a body guy and I was talk to Kevin and pave it with Bondo but watching you has made me want to better my skills to do better work thanks for showing us all the stuff you have shown
Others may have higher numbers, but I doubt that many other channels on all of RUclips has the kind of audience appreciation that this one does,
Thanks, as always, guys,
damn right. this is the gold standard.
Wray , for me forget about the Talbot Lago, 😉 I am loving this Healey series. I'm patiently waiting to see how you sort out the gauging across the front below the grill opening. Stop bashing the competition, like the song goes accentuate the positive , eliminate the negative. I subscribe to your channel because I want to take my metal finishing to a higher level. Your current Healey series addresses work with affordable tools with excellent results, fwiw. Peace mjm
It might even be worth it for Wray to invite some of the competition to his class for a collaboration. They would learn some extra skills and the advertisement on their channels would probably gain some subscribers for Wray.
When you pulled out the can of body filler, I cringed! As the old saying goes though, You can have it fast, you can have it good, and you can have it cheap. Pick two. When you aired the first episode on this, I'll bet 99.9% of the people thought "Thats scrap for Beer Cans". I looked at it and thought, yep, that Son of a Gun is gonna fix that piece of scrap...and darned if you didn't! I know it CAN be done, but it still amazes me to see it actually done. Nice series on this one Wray.
I'm not bored with this project.. I want to see it to the finished product... where it can be re used as a replacement for another car... see if it fits
Hay! i love every episode of the Healy I would like it if you finished it on camera iv been watching it from episode one of Healy restoration and you guys are. Amazing artists want t see talbot lag also
Just want to say thanks for making these videos. I was always told aluminum has no memory so just throw it away and order new parts. Came across your channel while searching for a way to shrink aluminum to fix a part that is no longer available new. Since then I’ve opted to repair the damage panels
I come across instead of replacing them. Do a lot of aluminum body work and paint. 95% aluminum 5% steel, your videos have been a game changer thank you. Will definitely be trying to figure out how to make enough to come out for some classes. And for the record I’d watch these Healey videos clear through to paint. They’ve been amazing. I saw the first video and said no way that’ll come out. Great work!
Hi Wray,
I’ve eagerly awaited each segment of the Healy repair🙂. Marks doing a great job on the editing too I reckon 👍. The information you give is great Wray, I was panel beating in the 80’s and loved it but was never shown or encouraged to finish panels as you do (repair shops only). Get them in and out in as little time as possible for quick turn over! It’s great to see craftsmanship in action! Please complete the Healy as I think there’s a lot of viewers that (as myself) would love to see it finished 🙂
Wouldn't your mobile wheel work to smooth those areas to a mirror like finish at this point and do the stretching also? Love your skill set and technique. The metal must surrender! Hah!
OMG NO WAY you cant finish this off camera , after weeks of watching its progress to miss out the ending , or any of the steps along the way would be a crime ,,, I would instantly un subscibe and leave feeling cheated , and Ill bet Im not the only one who would feel this way .
Just change the video titles to "Top 10 Celebrities who..." or "Watch me react to a video of someone else doing stuff" because that's what the algorithm seems to promote.
Great video, as much as I'd like to see more on the Talbot-Lago, I'm also very interested to see the rest of your smoothing process from start to finish. Personally I've never been able to get steel 100% straight without using a file. Based on my experiments, the file doesn't remove a significant amount of material if used properly. I understand it's still not ideal and I'd like to eventually move away from using it entirely. I've seen the damage done when files are used aggressively in combination with a sharp pick hammer and aggressive grinding. I cringe when I see metal being ground with 24 and 36 grit.
RAY, really glad you are working on the Healey shroud again. I know it is a grind to keep working on the same project. But, that is how projects are. All the fine steps that everyone else jumps over.
I was afraid that interest was lagging on the Healey shroud.
@@proshaper I've been looking forward to each instalment.
@@proshaper interest is NOT lagging. I was sincerely hoping you'd show getting the crinkled foil out of the reverse with hammer and dolly. So it looks like a planishing operation or a mini-wheel operation. THANK YOU! for not leaving out the details.
@@proshaper It's not. I was excited to see it come out again in this latest video. I've been loving this entire sequence. I'm still amazed at the transformation from where it started. I want to see it finished.
Keep going with the Healey ,it's an amazing process and will happily watch as many videos as you can make on it .
Don't worry about the numbers, keep on the quality path. We're listening and learning.
Hi Wray, The Healy is a brilliant project, thanks for showing it again. I too would like to see how you will finish it. Amazing stuff. Don't knock the opposition some will agree and the honest ones will say that they are repairing not restoring. From Australia. Jim
Really appreciate you demonstrating the work.
Thanks Wray. I appreciate the time you put into all these video. The information provided is outstanding and you almost have the convinced that someone other than you can do some of this. I too would like to see the finished product.
With your 30+ years of experience I know you already know this but people want things fast and cheap but when the finished product doesn't last (chunks of bondo cracking or falling off); they don't tell anyone that's what they asked for; they complain about the person that did the work. Stick to your guns; the right people will find their way to you! Thank you for all the lessons!
Ha I have 60 years experience working on collector cars. I started when I was 12 , I'll be 71 in a 6 weeks. I have a decent business now.
@@proshaper Lol.I know. You've mentioned it before but I want to keep you young so you'll keep making videos!
@Wray Schelin's ProShaper Workshop I live in suburbia. Could I reduce the Woodpecker effect for the neighbors by using hard rubber hammer and dolly to reduce the noise? A Shrinking Facilitator comes to mind.
Glad you are continuing with the Healey. It's an inspiration to me. . It would help me if you metal finished a small area. I'm ashamed to say I'm still working on the R-R. The last task is the roof. It is a low crown steel panel made from several sections like the Healey. It has heavy welding beads on the underside but the top surface is perfect. I'd love to see how the factory did it. In the past someone sand blasted the panel and stretched it in an irregular manner. In other areas the surface was shrunk due to someone using a sander to remove a heavy build up of umpteen coats of paint. To add to the nightmare it was epoxy primered.
Mike in Germany (slowly going mad)
Forget about the algorithm guys... It rewards garbage content. The average viewer wants to solve a complex problem in 5 minutes with ZERO skill. Its the same as weight loss. If you tell people you have a way to loose 100 lbs in a month with no diet and 5 minutes of exercise, you'll get a million views... Stay true to the type of work you're showing. This is invaluable information... The views and subscribers will come granularly.
Your a hell of good shaper wray. You might get a faster growth in your channel if you didn't sound like your telling your potential subscribers off. just a thought
Please continue with the Healey. You might be misjudging your subscribers. The Talbot isn't going anywhere for now. There are a number of good RUclips channels that follow the same ethos as you. It doesn't matter that there are those that work with a grinder and bondo. They're not the ones your subscribers go to. There's always going to be those that are just looking for a way that matches their skill set and aren't interested in learning quality craftsmanship. Your personality is one reason why I subscribed so don't mare it by bagging the rest, you should be better than that and I believe you are. I do however understand your frustration but remember it's "Horses for courses".
Cheers from Adelaide, Australia.
You need a thumbnail of a goldfish sneezing , or a chicken whistling the national anthem and you would be at a million likes in no time ,,, or do the video in just a bra and daisy dukes ,,, it may work , it seems to work for every one else ,, or use AMAZING a lot in the description .
At what point, if such a point exists, would you start to move the bonnet to the english wheel? I have seen several of the old school cast aluminum portable fender english wheels, the onss that were produced in the 40s/50s. Are they viable for something like this, do they work well enough to consider sourcing one?
The little moments where the volume goes back to normal and I can hear the hammer strikes really gives me a sense of how much force is being used. Don't know if it was intentional, but it really helps. Thanks.
I am earning my doctorate in metallurgic science….thanks professor Wray!!
Back in a min , new mug of coffee needed for this one ....
Right back .......... here we go.
I hope you find a way to impress the algorithm without changing the format of your content. I'm here to learn, and I guess that's the case for most viewers. Thanks a lot for sharing all your experience, skills and tricks with us!
Were not here for instant gratification, that crowd is over at the Bondo Buggy channels.
This is really getting me jazzed up to get started on my dads Austin Healey 3000!
I gotta light a fire under his butt first haha.
The best factual channel on RUclips by far. Literally all fact no filler - there’s no Bondo or false drama!! I can’t believe how much I’ve learnt in the last year following all the videos. You may not have a huge number of subscribers, but I bet most of them are proper enthusiasts, not just casual channel surfers. Keep the plates spinning on all the projects! 👍
Love watching your videos. So helpful. I brought the nose of my Triumph GT6 back from the Bondo graveyard and have nearly zero filler in it now. If someone wants to fill up their panels with Bondo, so be it, they aren't the ones you make these awesome videos for. Keep up the good work!
30:30 Is that what people really mean when they say metal has a memory? Is it just that the area value hasn't changed much, especially when dealing with less damage than this one?
Excellent video very helpful thanks Wray
A wrinkle -dinkel. I love the word salad… a lot of fun!!!
Don't stop now, I e followed this project from the start.
Want to see it till the very end -:) learned a lot only by watching already!
Another good one Wray.....amazing how the panels come back....keep em commin
Hi Wray. Many thanks for all your patience showing us how it is done. As you say patience is a huge part of the process. You are very right about feeling the work. An old cabinet maker said to me many years ago if you put your hand in your pocket you can tell if you have one dollar bill or two by the thickness. Best regards from the U.K.
No no do the hole repair on camera 🎥 please
It's an Austin Healing.
Hi Wray, I'd like to see the Healey go to completion. As for growing the channel, maybe some Euro/USA/etc enthusiasts would like to see something like "Repairing your dented 1937 unobtanium/unafordable headlight bucket" or "Duplicating your 1938 LaSalle Metal Fender spare tire cover". All sorts of people have cars of this nature, and have limited means, but might be encouraged to try something "not too big". Maybe a make-a-pedal-car or make a display model series. All the skills would be shown, but on a smaller scale (no pun intended). I don't mind hopping around from project to project, as long as gaps are clearly explained. Best Regards, love your work!
Hi, this is Rock Rooster Footwear. We sent you an email about cooperation inquiry. Would appreciate it if you could have a check. Thanks!
If you finish the Healy off camera please show pictures of the finished product.
Wray, I would like to see the process completed on camera. I've invested myself in this particular project to get a sense of the "complete" process and would love to follow it to completion. To stop now would be like the 24 hr news channel (never the complete story, just a blurb). I'm learning a lot from the detail in which you go through to explain the process'. Thanks for the great content.
Nice soothing viewing now.
Incredible transformation so far on this.
I keep thinking it would suit you well to have a form that picks up each corner for height and squareness.
Great to watch Wray my grandfather made aeroplanes in the fifties the Flying Princess made at Saunders Rowe yard on the Isle of Wight England, now I can watch and have an idea of his skills, many thanks.
gotta see the finished state please!~!!
Mark, codos to you for your audio editing skills. Wray is doing a woundfull job. Looking forward to the finished product.
Man I have been wanting to understand how to repair aluminum for a long time. Please take your time to show the steps for repairing aluminum. Very appreciative of what you are teaching.
I would like to add my vote to seeing this restoration completed. I don't think we need to see every bump planished out, but I love to see all the different techniques demonstrated in this project. I'm especially looking forward to see how you correct the gross arrangement where a great deal of force is required (normally hydraulic presses etc) And then of course the the last 5% of getting it as near perfect as it makes sense to go. So it sits in place without needing clamps and straps to hold it in the correct shape. And you are right - you deserve many more subscribers 😀
Bored never! Please do not stop.
I love the quality work you always pursue! You are a true artisan and the love of this type work you show is a breath of fresh air in the age of pull it/push it a little and slap the Bondo to it. Body men mostly work for a get it done now shop. They have to be willing to change their mindset and open a high end shop of their own if their skills warrant it.
Love this channel I learn so much. I'm all the way over in Australia and between watching this channel as well as attending classes here I have so much confidence shaping metal. Also tell Mark he's doing a great job and once the Healy is finished he has to do a time lapse for all the dedicated watchers
Nice work straitening the healey panels i think we didnot have tig back in 50s more that likely gas welded back then when car were made of good metal and not tin
It looks like a tig weld, not a gas weld.
I notice with the slapper sometimes you can of slide it sideways as you hit. Is that important to the process or just the way you happen to use it? Love this series BTW! I had zero sheet metal skill before starting to watch this. A few weeks ago was able to work out a 10mm misalignment with one edge of the hood on my Lotus 7 replica with just a body hammer and dolly from what I've learned so far. Took a few hours but just kept telling myself "metal is clay" and it came out great. Thanks!
beautiful work as always
Talking about your estate Wray , when you do get to the pearly gates they will rename you as Jobe 2. The man with patients .
More Healey please. For the ones that are not "building" cars but restoring them, this is huge.
is that tin of body filler your personal Kryptonite Wray, do you go weak when you handle it.
please please please don't shortcut this series. it's more interesting than the talbot will be.
I'm not bored with it
audio editing on point!
thanks for saving our ears from all the hammering! haha
Well I for one am not getting bored, you said yourself - it needs patience.
It’s amazing how far this piece has come shows how talented you are. Can’t wait to see it finished
Patience and precision measurement.
The slapper is under utilized in my garage
i like the healey learning the order and plan of attack of where to start to fix something like that thank you for the videos
This is totally inspirational. At some point I'm signing up for a class.
I'm really enjoying (and learning from) this series, thanks Wray. How do you know when it's time to heat an area again, does the metal behaviour change or do you have a rule of thumb? Thanks again Mark
If you want the metal to move easier, just like clay you can heat it.
I’m a little confused as to why the bodies would have been tig welded in the first place, considering gas welding aluminium is so much faster. Added to that, the smoothing out of a tig weld is also considerably more time consuming. And then the crack potential… At a time when British craftsmen were amazing at gas welding, this just doesn’t make sense. Planishing a fused (zero rod fill) aluminium gas weld unbelievably quick in comparison. Wray, why would they have tig welded it? Considering the associated problems and time wasting, I’m at a loss to see any benefits. What’s your take? Thanks from across the Pond.
I teach coachbuilding which includes welding panels. I tried teaching students gas welding and the results were not good- lots of burned through holes. Tig welding can be learned in minutes by a beginner. Tig welding if done correctly yields a superb weld. Gas is quicker if you have an expert skill level. To each his own... if you are great at gas welding then weld with gas. If you are great at tig, then tig weld. The same divide happens over English wheel vs Power Hammer. The bottom line is, no matter what method you use coachbuilding is labor intensive, it takes a lot of hours to hand shape a complete body.
Much appreciation, great video Wray!
I've watched many hours probably more than 50 hours maybe a lot more and I've never seen one project completed
It's about the process.
Wray, would you use the torch on steel (200 to 300 degrees on steel)?
If it is all wrinkled up.
Wray, again another excellent tutorial in fixing and spot shrinking the high spot on Aluminium.
Is it the same for steel?
Still love to know how to fix the over development from the english wheel if I have over developed the panel. How to shrink back a larger overdeveloped area.
Yes, steel is the same. I will show an over developed panel is a upcoming video.
@@proshaper I be watching with intetest👍 Thanks again for sharing you expertise .
You are a true craftsman.
Jah
First 🤣
Eric, you're fired 😂
@@proshaper that’s the second time this week 🤣
Ive watched most the Hraley videos but i missed what kind of aluminum is this made of? 3003-h14,,,,5052-h32 ???
I'm not sure what was used by Jenson when they made them for Healey.
@@proshaper ok thanks, i enjoy your videos ( sorry about miss spelling healey😬)
Smooth it up!
WANNA GROW THE CHANNEL ...COLAB invite the 24 grit king Fitzee and the bondo buckaroo bad chad for lessons keep a eye on chad dont want him to burn down your shop. hot chick footage would help to
I've really been enjoying this serious, please keep showing the process and share the finished product..Excellent work Wray. I've also ordered some items recently
“You can’t make everybody happy. And everybody watches my channel!”
Ya know, it’s all valuable info even if it isn’t one’s preference.
Filler and paint makes 'em the coach-builders they ain't! Fantastic work and learning opportunities here, folks. Listen in!
Wray
How long would it take to build this from scratch using the flexible shape pattern?
1981 I took a autobody course called , hand skill development ,we learned all the off and on dolly technique,s from a couple of guys that worked in the 40s when they had no bondo,,im not to bad at what you were doing there,,but I went into production collision work ,at home in the eveings I would do my best work on the old classic cars,im 60 and still love to see this kind of work,I will bring out the 24 grit when the customer wont pay/lol
You should do a video using Bondo and 24 grit grinding disks, on April Fool's Day.
When something is crumbled that bad wouldn’t it be easier to make new panels and weld them in
Not bored at all, would like to see the Healey through to finish.
Impressive craftsmanship!!
Sorry, but the cute little saying "metal is clay" is really a terrible comparison between two materials that have properties 180 degrees away from each other! Clay is malleable by slow even pressure, and resists sharp blows, (the reason you use it to hammer on). Metal resists slow even pressure and is malleable by sharp strong blows. Not quite sure why you have to come up with all these cute little "catch phrases" and can't use industry standard terms to describe the metal shaping process? It seems to cheapen what you are trying to achieve. P.S. I have been in the "metal shaping" industry for 45 years for all you YT groupies that will attack me for my comment.
"Metal Is Clay" is an inspirational phrase to provide confidence. It is accurate to say everybody can shape clay, most people have a mindset that shaping sheet metal is too difficult, with my videos I show them they only need to give it a go. If after watching my videos you can only comment about a misunderstanding that you have about my "metal is clay phrase", I can only say you have an agenda to prove me wrong rather than focus on the quality of my work. I guess you have the habit of writing critical comments on every metal shaping video on RUclips or maybe just my videos....
Perfect video wray!
Bitchin Wray!