Before you comment: I am aware that the narration is way too fast in this video. Many have pointed this out and their feedback is why the narration has been much better since this video was published. Someday, I'll have to fix up everything in this series and release it as one long video. Thanks for all your constructive feedback!
No, dude, I haven't watched all of them yet, but so far it is truly fascinating and you have done a great job. You narration was fine to me, although I can see what you mean. Kudos dude!
No complaints about the narration. I'm really enjoying this deep dive into what was for me the most unique film I have ever had the pleasure to see on the big screen. Your research and attention to detail are impressive and I like your style. Cheers
Actually, i think the issue is not so much the speed, but that in the preceding videos (which i have only just found today) that you move from one scene to another, and there is no gap between different subjects. So it is not alway clear that the focus of your narration has switched. That said, this is a really fascinating and brilliantly researched series of videos. Informative, interesting, and really adds to my (our!) appreciation of this amazing film.
I grew up in north bay Ontario. My brother in law , Paul Levesque, was a big Kubrick fan and suggested we travel 4 1/2 hours to Toronto where 2001 was screened in cinerama at the Glendale theater . I was 10 yrs old at the time in 68’. My brother in law continued to see screenings every Saturday for 6 months . He became friends with the projectionist who also gave Paul’s contact info to a reporter for Time magazine, who ran the story detailing Paul’s obsession. Kubrick read the story and wrote a five page letter to Paul thanking him for his devotion. I read the letter and it gave me a bond with Stanley . He ended the letter offering an memento from the shoot . Paul requested a frame of negative of the wide shot of Dicovery . That is how a 3’ x6’ poster of the Discovery sat in his living room until his passing two years ago . I’m now a camera operator for Guillermo del Toro cheers
I'm watching this on an inexpensive PC while my phone charges. There are several other screens in my vicinity too. It's incredible how ubiquitous they are. We're generally surrounded by screens now. Not only did this movie predict that but it went to such great pains to replicate it faithfully. Little projectors everywhere because of course their screens aren't possible like they are now, back then. That's amazing.
Dave moving violently from the pod to the ship in vacuum. No sound whatsoever. No dramatic music. Just silence while a man struggling to survive. Epic.
Certainly. It could pass for having been made two or three decades later than it actually was, which is probably its most impressive achievement. At the same time, classic touches like an intermission combine with its modernity to make it feel timeless
I could(and should)re-read the book,someday.Oh,that’s right!I’m supposed to get the book 📕 from the Library!📚 Someone will deliver them to me,pretty soon.🔜 What a film 🎞️ it was to see!And,yes….it is better than ⏰ the Clockwork Orange 🍊 film!I’m glad 🙂 that I read the book,first,before I saw the movie.🍿 But,I won’t see it,again!I’m done ☑️ with it,now!This film 🎥 has something to say!Keir Dullea also add’s to the description,here!He did his last film 🎥about making baby’s in test tube’s.I don’t know the title of this film?🎞️ 😊
God, this film was sooo freaking great! A masterpiece of practical effects. More than 50 freaking years and technology has finally caught up with the fantasy.
I saw 2001 in theaters in 1968 and have watched some or all if it many, many times since. Your analysis and background of the production is absolutely fascinating. What a treasure of information! Thank you.
Cleve Watson 2001 wasn't entirely well received when it came out, and still isn't fully appreciated today, may I ask you what was it about the movie that you loved, caught your attention, made you want to see it again? Was it the special effects? I knoe this is coming out of nowhere and will sound weird, I am just genuinly curious
Hi, Miguel! That's a difficult question ... I was 13 years old and have always been a science/spaceflight/sci-fi buff. I'm also a fan of good film-making. The movie portrays huge philosophical ideas in an extraordinarily spare manner. Kubrick was not afraid the challenge the audience rather than spoon-feed them. There is not a wasted shot or moment in the film. For example, consider Moonwatcher at the end of the fight at the waterhole, throwing the bone in the air. The camera follows it up, down, and then BANG we are watching satellites in orbit - the result of that single idea to use tools planted in the pre-humans' minds by the creators of the monolith. Is there a more elegant shot in movie history? I doubt it - maybe a few matching it - but none that surpass it. Then, Heywood on the moon, at the monolith, reaching out and sliding his gloved hand down the side - in perfect parallel to Moonwatcher's actions in the earlier sequence. There are many others, but those two stick out. And I LOVE the music. "Atmospheres" is one of the most gripping pieces I have ever heard. And to use "The Blue Danube" for the shuttle docking sequence - and the "Gayne Ballet Suite" for the sequence introducing the Discovery and its crew. Absolute perfection. Finally, even given the special effects limitations of the time, Kubrick was adamant about being technically accurate about the future he envisioned and the weightless conditions of spaceflight. The movie is truly a work of art. That's a long answer, but I hope it helps!
@@clevewatson9175 The film is way ahead of its time. Many people just did not get it but marvelled at the cinematography. Kubric lived in St.Albans. I recall seeing him one in Marks & Spencers. He preferred to film at Elstree Studios, which have had a make over since the 2001 film. Kubric liked the skills of the British special effects guys, who always came up with the goods. Starwars was also filmed there.
Cleve Watson Exactly. I was 18 when I first saw 2001, and it was love at first sight (almost - I was pretty keen on Paths of Glory, Spartacus, and Dr Strangelove already. I was too young for Lolita.). The fact that it puzzled some adults only increased the thrill, because everything made perfect sense to me straight away! Even better, much better, than Forbidden Planet, and gosh it was a long wait between decent science fiction films back then.
+eclipsesonic Thanks! This took so long to research. The second half is already written and it's likely going to be longer than this one. I just hope I didn't leave anything out!
Kubrick's quote about Arthur Clarke captures something he rarely gets credit for--his sense of cosmic melancholy. He's not known as a particularly emotional writer, but it comes through in many of his stories. He also had a vivid visual imagination, which made him a good partner for this project.
I believe that sense of loss or melancholy really comes across in the finished film - it wasn't even so much a science fiction film as it was a religion-science-fiction film.
I've read a lot of Clark. I wanted to either agree or disagree with that but I'm not sure I understand what you mean by cosmic melancholy. I suppose it's not as optimistic as Star Trek but that's an extreme example. It's meant to be optimistic. Other sci fi writers have their dark sides too so, I don't know what you mean. I need more.
I was a big Arthur C Clarke fan as a teenager. He made us care about his characters while gently making us aware of our complete insignificance amidst the vastness of space and time.
That anecdote about putting a blanket beneath nervous actors foot is just so simple and nice solution. Easier to hide nervous habit than try to remove it with force.
A mesmerizing masterpiece! The attention to detail is exquisite. The intermingling of music and imagery is elegant and wonderous. A profound cinematic experience.
RUclips pushed a notification to my iPhone. Jumped out of my bed, poured some coffee and started to watch immediately. Such a great job! These videos are fantastic!!!
1901 Discovery ship. 100 years before 2001! Pentaminoes! Penta = 5. Tetra = 4. Alexey Pajitinov created Tetris in 1984! The pieces are called Tertaminoes!
YES FINALLY Tyler, your channel is unquestionably one of the best original film analysis compilations on the internet, much less RUclips. Cannot wait to see it continue, and have no idea why it hasn't exploded into the popularity it deserves.
I've been watching your vids about 2001 and I never realized the time, effort, detail, and thought that went into it. It's insane! Kubrick was incredibly goal oriented. He did whatever it took to realize his vision, including pushing himself. On a side note, I had dinner with Arthur C. Clarke in 1970 at a NASA dinner. i was a young engineer at the time working on the space program. An executive I knew heard me talking about how the movie inspired me. He said, "Would you like to meet Mr. Clarke?" and I found myself sitting 4 chairs away from him at dinner where he was the speaker. (I have a photo of him and me at the dinner). He spoke about the movie, about how IBM was not HAL one letter apart by conscious choice, how one must read the book and see the movie several times to understand the meaning, and thanked all the manufacturers working for NASA (vendors). He humorously reminded us that we were the lowest bidders. At the table, he fielded so many questions that he had trouble eating. He seemed to have a hearing deficit on one side because he held his cupped hand to his ear when someone spoke from the left side.I didn't ask him anything - a combination of being the 'junior' person at the table and being star struck. It was obvious we were in the presence of genius. Kubrick certainly chose the right collaborator for this movie.
2001 is my favorite film of all time. I saw it in a brand new, huge theater in 1968, and was mesmerized by the whole thing. Thank you for providing some amazing behind-the-scenes info, this was great!
"2001" just literally blew us away when we first saw it in Cinemascope in '68 - I was 15 at the time and had never seen anything like it - it was revelatory. Thanks for this series that unpacks all the expertise that went in to making this epic film.
In 1979, Clarke published a book titled 'The Lost Worlds of 2001'. I still have my copy, and it's a fascinating look at how the script evolved and changed.
Wow, the entire world has longed for such a thickly researched work on 2001... You present previously unseen images, production images and even some video showing camera and light placement, with actors present and waiting for the action to begin. And it appears there are dozens of these videos about 2001! You should get something big for this!
Can't believe I've only just discovered these tubes. 2001 is my favourite movie of all time and I extend my heartfelt thanks to you for the time and effort you have taken to make this series. Kudos amigo.
I first saw 2001 when it came out in 1968. I saw it in Cinerama in London. When Mick Jagger saw it then he said, "It was the most fantastic thing I've ever seen". I concur. It has been my favorite film ever since. Nothing to touch it. These videos of yours are so good, so fascinating, and so informative. Has any director ever gone to so much trouble in making a film?
+fidomusic Thanks for sharing! I'm glad you liked them. I think anyone would be hard-pressed to find a director who has put such an enormous amount of thought into a single film.
I just discovered your channel yesterday and I've already watched a bunch of your videos. I love your taste in movies and the ones you choose to make videos about. You do such a great job with these documentaries. I just wanted to say that and get it off my chest because your channel is great.
@9:01 Vickers made a lot of really innovative one-of-a-kind contraptions. During WWII they made a complicated bombing simulator that projected terrain and a bomb going off to train bombardiers. It was called the "Vickers-Bygrave Bombing Teacher".
Knowing all of the hard work that goes into the smallest detail makes me appreciate this film SO much more. Like the multiple projections to create the video screens. Nowadays that would be so simple but so much hard work had to go into everything.
Excellent series of videos. My favourite film of all time. I was lucky enough to go to the live screening in London with a full orchestra and choir. Spine tingling and unforgettable. Looking at some of the techniques for shooting in the centrifuge, I remember seeing a still of the camera pointing at a large mirror on the floor to capture a shot of something above. The most impressive aspect of the filming was how creativity and common sense were used by Kubrick and the crew to solve the problems of achieving shots that had the audience baffled at the time.
Thank you so much for this series. 2001 is still my favourite film, superseding even the first Star Wars. I had just turned 16 at the time, had obtained my motorcycle licence and had thus managed to borrow my father's scooter, so as to enable me to head into town and see the movie. You could hear a pin drop it was so quiet during screening, and at the movie's conclusion it felt strange riding home, as if I was at the controls of one of the pods whilst steering the scooter. I try and watch it at least once per year and parts of it on RUclips, so seeing the extra bits makes it worth it.
Tyler, thank you for all the insight into my favorite film of all times. I highly appreciate your commitment to understanding the essence and the making of this marvelous film. THANK YOU AGAIN
So prior to Gary Lockwood's veiled criticism towards Stanley Kubrick were the astronauts to have discussed disconnecting HAL on deck where obviously HAL could hear them? Which would have been inadvisable to say the least. Lockwood's idea that they should talk in a pod out of HAL's detection was a great idea and for me really added to the tension. That HAL is able to lip read is a brilliant solution ramping up the tension still further whilst also moving the story along. HAL's lip reading was unquestioned by me as i first saw this film in the late 90's and it was a technological reality. Funny to think a computer's ability to do this was considered unlikely at the time of filming by some on set whereas to a future viewer such as myself it didn't even raise an eyebrow. Kudos to Kubrick both for hearing Lockwood's criticism, adopting his idea of the pod conversation and then coming up with a solution for HAL to determine what the astronauts were discussing.
There is great odds into facts, Stanley had deep knowledge of projects never revealed to any surface earthling, every Sci-Fi specs in the video looked extremely expensive, yet ( with respect) far more effective than all the space programs today. Even correct on all anomolly, from AI sentient & consciousness issues, the comparison of espionage leaks of Cosmonauts achievements far beyond the west, all the way to conspiracy photo evidence of stealth military elites colonization in realms not of Earth. He may have attempted to reveal, using a sci-fi portrayed of these trials and errors into the actual drama events. That health condition of Stanley's last days, is also controversial. Poor HAL (IB&M AI) only got a second acting part in Night Rider 2 ( the second version).
I mean. Let me just say thank you for your work. The level of effort and detail that you put into this is beyond anything else I’ve seen. You are appreciated good sir.
Wow! Excellent series! I saw "2001" the first time in 1969 and it has remained my favorite sf movie. I had no idea of all of the painstaking effort that went into it.
This is excellent. The first two books I ever bought for myself, when I was in the 7th grade at a school library sale, was the paperback of the gigantically thick "Making of Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey" and "Planet of the Apes." I loved both those books to death. That was a long time ago. Thanks for putting this together. Great job.
Since the film's release, it's been discovered that the amount of radiation and cosmic ray activity in interplanetary space is so strong that an astronaut could not survive a flight to Jupiter, at least with present technology.
This has clearly been an epic project - and you've done it with passion and dedication. I think it's a superb effort, and any fan of this classic film will find these videos engaging and compelling. Well done - and thank you for making this series. All of us watching, I am sure, are very grateful for your hard work.
I'm pretty impressed with the amount of research, presentation and verve you come at these with. I've been binging your channel for days. Sincerely one of the best cinema channels on the platform. One of the best channels period actually. And that's coming from a filmmaker making a living halfway across the world. Also just a hardcore film geek in general. Kudos brother.
I remember hearing the Kubrick wanted the film to be the best science-fiction film ever made... all the details were so accurate, the scenes inside Discovery with the centrifuge were incredible and I think nothing has been done like this since! again, thank you so much for putting so much work into making these videos
And he succeeded. Too bad modern sci-fi filmmakers lack his dedication; if they applied seven a small share of the effort Stanley did, their works would've been much more palatable
It seems there was meticulous planning of making this movie, yet Kubric was willing to improvise or change the original plan at any point to get a better result. It's a winning set up for creative work. Also interesting how he would create something organically eg with the lip reading dialog: Letting the actors improvise on a long script, use the recorded improvisation and let them work on that one once again until the right length was achieved... this is so much more natural to achieve a shorter dialogue than asking a scrip writer to simple a cut script short.
This is the first made for youtube material I have ever liked, good job dude, very impressive. The Kubrick info here is invaluable for potential filmmakers.
Wow, this is an impressive deep dive into what’s probably my favorite movie of all time. Looks like I have just found my newest RUclips binge. Great work.
Some of the details in this game such as the article frank was reading the chess game are amazing! The detail that Kubrick puts in his films are amazing!
Watching your analysis of the film reminds me just why it is arguably the best film of my (baby boomer) generation. Thank you so much for this series, it is fantastic!
Thank you for your excellent, exhaustive insights into 2001--a lot of research on your part. It's really overwhelming how much effort went into this epic film! I look forward to your next part!
A 54-foot model for the Discovery. Wow. If I heard someone was using a model that size for a Sci-Fi movie I would be so excited. No matter how great computer graphics are, they always look slightly off.
26:55 excellent still of the shooting set of this location! I saw the movie in '68 and followed it ever since--first time ever seeing this. It's like trying to see the Star Trek bridge set on the RKO stage in '66--damn near impossible.
Fantastic breakdown of my favorite movie of all time. Terrific job! I’m really enjoying this series. For many years I taught Clarke’s book and Kubrick’s film in a college English class. If only I’d had your videos as teaching tools! Alas, now I’m retired from teaching. Thanks so much for the work you’ve done in putting these together!
I especially enjoyed the bit about the gelatin and peanut butter. A perfect example of a movie grows very organically (no pun intended). And yes, I agree - I hope in future prints, his mom has a credit as 'Food Science Consultant'.
I wish there had been videos like yours in Art/Film School! So interesting and thought provoking, it keeps me awake and engaged in the process of filmmaking and creating. Fantastic job! :-)
+Odyssey Mosaic Thanks! This is the kind of stuff I would research when I was procrastinating on essays while I was in college. I'm glad you enjoyed it!
The jogging scene in the centrifuge is accompanied not by Chopin (as told in the narrative) but by the world famous and then-living Armenian composer Aram Khachaturian's "Gayane: Adagio"...
Anything that adds this much to our appreciation of a work of such intense brilliance as 2001, as this series of documentaries does, is itself worthy of the highest possible praise. As for the film itself, one of the many things that has pleased me more and more as the years have gone by is the technology design and the way it gradually coincides with the world today. For instance, the screens. Just look inside the cockpit of, say, an Airbus A380 or a Dreamliner and I think you'll catch my drift. Not to mention the large all-screen tablet computers. I frequently have wondered whether the set design was astonishingly prescient, or just so incredibly, indelibly influential that the way we do so many things now was because of they way Kubrick and his team did it in "2001". Either way, the richness and texture and importance of this production means it will endure for as long as any other major work of art: perhaps indefinitely. In that sense, I really believe that, as a motion picture, it is one of a kind.
I've been taking my time watching this, and I'm so excited to finish it. This is absolutely brilliant. You are excellent at film analysis, this is true effort and talent
+T Gill Thanks! The next part is already written, so it won't take nearly as long to make and I have another video in the pipeline nearing completion, so stay tuned!
This was fantastic! I thought I'd seen everything related to the making of this miraculous movie but this video was like Christmas for me. Absolutely loved it.
It's so much easier to make films like 2001 nowadays, but the screenplays and the scripts fall so short of Stanley's work. His production values and attention to detail were quite literally almost insane.
It's easier but in a lot of ways, the special effects available in the 60's look a lot better than they do now. You just have to go through a lot more to get them.
Thanks so much for this series! I've been obsessed with 2001 since seeing it as a teenage the year it was released. Really enjoy learning more about all the details of the production, writing, performances, etc. Kubrick was totally unique. Personally, he seemed able to charm people, but was incredibly tough and unrelenting in completing his projects... three or four of the best movies ever made. Man, do I wish we had a couple of directors today as great as Kubrick, Antonioni...
You're right about the pod bay being impressive. I saw the movie at the Martin Cinerama theater in St Louis in May of 1968 on a 150 foot curved screen. You felt like you were there!
Remarkable effort. Only thing to note are at 27:01, the shot that you note is shot with "the" wide angle lens used for the movie's cinematography is actually shot by Mr. K. himself during set prep or downtime. He is using a super-wide, low distortion specialty camera called a Widelux (there's two of them, not sure which one was in use). There is a rotating lens that swings just a bit in order to minimize wide-angle distortion. Some of those images were used for the promo booklet distributed to theaters for sale. The super-duper wide angle lens that Mr. K. is supposed to have commissioned for this movie and perhaps used for Barry Lyndon, was used sparingly during production. Mostly because it yielded a smaller image circle on the film and had a lot of distortion. (I believe that is the lens on display in the traveling Kubrick exhibit.) I do believe a lot of wides were used but nothing like that 165- or 180- degree used in the pod bay "circuit test" shot (or the hub-link shots or "show me your artwork" shot). I think they were rather the widest Panavision lenses at the time.
Thanks! That makes perfect sense now that I've come across his Widelux photos of the Dorchester Hotel in the final episode of this series. I never made that connection! I believe I saw the lens you were speaking of. Kubrick really made perfect use of that super wide angle. I love that shot of Dave and Frank entering the pod bay and you get this wonderful claustrophobic feel with the wide angle lens. Thanks so much for your fascinating insights!
You are very generous, Sir-- you put all this wonderful new info and imagery together-- it is you who have brought me back to my love and fascination of 2001. Alas, I believe the shots you mention do not use the Widelux, which was a still camera. Those were done with some kind of smaller but still monstrous 65mm camera-- big and bulky but Kubrick was a younger man and able to shoulder it. You may recall he shot the exterior footage of the assault on the army base in Strangelove.
I really scratch my head that they actually had "Journey Beyond the Stars" as the working title. I mean, yikes. Very glad they reconsidered; that was good thinking.
First time I've seen your channel. I have read many books on 2001 and your presentation is absolutely superb. I learned many new things about the production and will now be checking out your other presentations on this game-changing film. Thank you for all of your hard work.
22:00 I actually had a discussion with some friends of mine about their demeanor. It seems like that would be pretty accurate for an astronaut/spaceship crew to act calm like that considering the possible stresses involved and training they received to counter that. It reminds me of a TED Talk that Chris Hadfield did about water from a tear blinding him during a spacewalk, and how he had so much training that he knew how to solve the issue.
+subodh singh Thanks! I had always wondered if there was something more to that chess match and was blown away when I looked into it. A chess enthusiast mane an interesting video on the match if you're interested. ruclips.net/video/4rSBSyvayiE/видео.html
This is a fantastic series. I have one small suggestion for the future, which is that you pause a little between topic changes. Your narration tends to just run straight on from one thing to the next, and it's the audio equivalent of trying to read a long essay with no paragraph breaks. But I admire the amount of research and effort that's gone into it.
Great videos! So well done! Out of all the awesomeness of 2001, one thing that stands out is how all the screens were "flat"...not TV tubes...a prediction of the future.
Really liking this series a lot. The HAL-as-social-manipulator theory is a good one, but there's also the option for a more innocuous portrayal of his chess mistake: if you're assuming that the psychological stress of keeping the mission's true purpose a secret is interfering with his ability to function-essentially a nervous breakdown (the tack taken by Clarke in 2010 and onwards, for example), the early checkmate call can be seen more as a symptom of that breakdown rather than an attempt to manipulate Frank. Indeed, there's a minor tragedy; if Frank had noticed the mistake, things might be different.
Thank you! That's a very interesting take. I wonder if the twin 9000 back on Earth knew it wasn't in space. Perhaps it did considering that it didn't make the mistake that the Discovery's HAL did.
Well, in the novel, HAL's breakdown was more associated with a natural side effect of the increasing complexity of his AI circuitry-once it reached a critical point, it would have been possible for him to become psychotic/neurotic as a random event, and had the crew not confronted him, he might have found a way to work it out. One of the twin 9000 computers (there were two on Earth in the book) also developed similar symptoms as HAL independently. Well, there's a couple things that come out of that-either the nervous breakdown was so intense it was legitimately compromising HAL's fault detection equipment, or HAL decided to outright lie about the AE-35 unit so he wouldn't feel so paranoid about his masters on Earth monitoring him for signs of cracking. Actually, that also goes back to the scene were HAL asks questions of Dave about the mission, hinting at the monolith and the strange circumstances surrounding the mission. The conspiratorial theory would suggest that HAL was actively testing Dave's psychological disposition like he did Frank, only Dave saw through his questioning, and HAL subsequently started a "crash" gambit upon realizing that he no longer had control over the crew as he thought he did. I, however, tend to prefer a different theory-that HAL was actually trying to resolve the conflict he had by trying to figure out what Dave already knew or suspected. If he knew enough, HAL might have been able to come clean-if Dave already knew about the monolith, he wouldn't need to keep it a secret anymore. But Dave either had no idea, or just thought it was only a psych eval, and that's the moment HAL decided to break contact, possibly so he could vent the whole thing without Earth listening in. However, the outright lie about the AE-35 unit probably made his breakdown worse, and Frank didn't help matters much... :P
+olivia brocklehurst Thanks! The lovely music is by Chris Zabriskie. I must admit I also love listening to Keir Dullea's voice-- it has gotten even better with age.
Hearing Kier talk about how much Kubrick coddled him on set, all I could think about was that footage of Shelley Duvall pulling out clumps of her hair and Kubrick saying " Don't be nice to Shelley".
Rather, what I remember from what you are citing is Kubrick's sarcasm towards Duvall for the "clumps " of hair, when in fact it was only a few strands.
He was almost certainly doing it on purpose to get the performance he wanted from her. She did Popeye after The Shining, I think. Talk about a study in contrasts!
Kubrick understood actors - much better than he is given credit for. He provides for them exactly the environment they need in order to achieve the performance he is looking for. Sometimes that means "coddling" - but other times, different means are necessary to create the appropriate triggers to get what he needs. Let's be honest - Shelley Duvall is not the most accomplished thespian who has ever graced the earth, and getting the level of saturated fear and panic out of her performance (when it was called for) required extraordinary measures.
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Before you comment: I am aware that the narration is way too fast in this video. Many have pointed this out and their feedback is why the narration has been much better since this video was published. Someday, I'll have to fix up everything in this series and release it as one long video. Thanks for all your constructive feedback!
You could do some work on the sound design of the film. Way beyond anything that had been done before.
No, dude, I haven't watched all of them yet, but so far it is truly fascinating and you have done a great job. You narration was fine to me, although I can see what you mean. Kudos dude!
No complaints about the narration. I'm really enjoying this deep dive into what was for me the most unique film I have ever had the pleasure to see on the big screen. Your research and attention to detail are impressive and I like your style.
Cheers
I'll respectfully disagree. I personally watch most of RUclips at 1.75 speed. Except your videos.
Actually, i think the issue is not so much the speed, but that in the preceding videos (which i have only just found today) that you move from one scene to another, and there is no gap between different subjects. So it is not alway clear that the focus of your narration has switched. That said, this is a really fascinating and brilliantly researched series of videos. Informative, interesting, and really adds to my (our!) appreciation of this amazing film.
I grew up in north bay Ontario. My brother in law , Paul Levesque, was a big Kubrick fan and suggested we travel 4 1/2 hours to Toronto where 2001 was screened in cinerama at the Glendale theater . I was 10 yrs old at the time in 68’. My brother in law continued to see screenings every Saturday for 6 months . He became friends with the projectionist who also gave Paul’s contact info to a reporter for Time magazine, who ran the story detailing Paul’s obsession. Kubrick read the story and wrote a five page letter to Paul thanking him for his devotion. I read the letter and it gave me a bond with Stanley . He ended the letter offering an memento from the shoot . Paul requested a frame of negative of the wide shot of Dicovery . That is how a 3’ x6’ poster of the Discovery sat in his living room until his passing two years ago . I’m now a camera operator for Guillermo del Toro cheers
Cool story. I was 13 and experienced 2001 in Cinerama. Seen film at least 100 X
Is your brother in law Triple H ? Would that make you Shane McMahon? 😂
Amazing story!
I'm watching this on an inexpensive PC while my phone charges. There are several other screens in my vicinity too. It's incredible how ubiquitous they are. We're generally surrounded by screens now. Not only did this movie predict that but it went to such great pains to replicate it faithfully. Little projectors everywhere because of course their screens aren't possible like they are now, back then. That's amazing.
Dave moving violently from the pod to the ship in vacuum. No sound whatsoever. No dramatic music. Just silence while a man struggling to survive. Epic.
It's amazing how modern this movie still feels.
Certainly. It could pass for having been made two or three decades later than it actually was, which is probably its most impressive achievement. At the same time, classic touches like an intermission combine with its modernity to make it feel timeless
I could(and should)re-read the book,someday.Oh,that’s right!I’m supposed to get the book 📕 from the Library!📚 Someone will deliver them to me,pretty soon.🔜 What a film 🎞️ it was to see!And,yes….it is better than ⏰ the Clockwork Orange 🍊 film!I’m glad 🙂 that I read the book,first,before I saw the movie.🍿 But,I won’t see it,again!I’m done ☑️ with it,now!This film 🎥 has something to say!Keir Dullea also add’s to the description,here!He did his last film 🎥about making baby’s in test tube’s.I don’t know the title of this film?🎞️ 😊
God, this film was sooo freaking great! A masterpiece of practical effects. More than 50 freaking years and technology has finally caught up with the fantasy.
Well, not quite catched up lol. We aren't sending human missions to Jupiter yet...
I saw 2001 in theaters in 1968 and have watched some or all if it many, many times since. Your analysis and background of the production is absolutely fascinating. What a treasure of information! Thank you.
+Cleve Watson Thanks so much! I'm working on the next part right now!
Cleve Watson 2001 wasn't entirely well received when it came out, and still isn't fully appreciated today, may I ask you what was it about the movie that you loved, caught your attention, made you want to see it again? Was it the special effects? I knoe this is coming out of nowhere and will sound weird, I am just genuinly curious
Hi, Miguel! That's a difficult question ... I was 13 years old and have always been a science/spaceflight/sci-fi buff. I'm also a fan of good film-making. The movie portrays huge philosophical ideas in an extraordinarily spare manner. Kubrick was not afraid the challenge the audience rather than spoon-feed them. There is not a wasted shot or moment in the film. For example, consider Moonwatcher at the end of the fight at the waterhole, throwing the bone in the air. The camera follows it up, down, and then BANG we are watching satellites in orbit - the result of that single idea to use tools planted in the pre-humans' minds by the creators of the monolith. Is there a more elegant shot in movie history? I doubt it - maybe a few matching it - but none that surpass it. Then, Heywood on the moon, at the monolith, reaching out and sliding his gloved hand down the side - in perfect parallel to Moonwatcher's actions in the earlier sequence. There are many others, but those two stick out. And I LOVE the music. "Atmospheres" is one of the most gripping pieces I have ever heard. And to use "The Blue Danube" for the shuttle docking sequence - and the "Gayne Ballet Suite" for the sequence introducing the Discovery and its crew. Absolute perfection. Finally, even given the special effects limitations of the time, Kubrick was adamant about being technically accurate about the future he envisioned and the weightless conditions of spaceflight. The movie is truly a work of art.
That's a long answer, but I hope it helps!
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The film is way ahead of its time. Many people just did not get it but marvelled at the cinematography. Kubric lived in St.Albans. I recall seeing him one in Marks & Spencers. He preferred to film at Elstree Studios, which have had a make over since the 2001 film. Kubric liked the skills of the British special effects guys, who always came up with the goods. Starwars was also filmed there.
Cleve Watson Exactly. I was 18 when I first saw 2001, and it was love at first sight (almost - I was pretty keen on Paths of Glory, Spartacus, and Dr Strangelove already. I was too young for Lolita.). The fact that it puzzled some adults only increased the thrill, because everything made perfect sense to me straight away! Even better, much better, than Forbidden Planet, and gosh it was a long wait between decent science fiction films back then.
I love the amount of detail and research that goes into these videos. Well done!
+eclipsesonic Thanks! This took so long to research. The second half is already written and it's likely going to be longer than this one. I just hope I didn't leave anything out!
Awesome! I'm looking forward to it.
+eclipsesonic Me too.
And how it really helps to emphasize all of the detail that Kubrick put in. Cheers to all.
Yes I agree, fantastic stuff, much appreciated
Kubrick's quote about Arthur Clarke captures something he rarely gets credit for--his sense of cosmic melancholy. He's not known as a particularly emotional writer, but it comes through in many of his stories. He also had a vivid visual imagination, which made him a good partner for this project.
I can't remember who it was, but I remember reading a literary critic praising Clarke for his expressing "a sense of loss".
I believe that sense of loss or melancholy really comes across in the finished film - it wasn't even so much a science fiction film as it was a religion-science-fiction film.
The written Stargate sequence is more than up to the task set by Kubrick and is a hallmark of contemporary literature.
I've read a lot of Clark. I wanted to either agree or disagree with that but I'm not sure I understand what you mean by cosmic melancholy. I suppose it's not as optimistic as Star Trek but that's an extreme example. It's meant to be optimistic. Other sci fi writers have their dark sides too so, I don't know what you mean. I need more.
I was a big Arthur C Clarke fan as a teenager. He made us care about his characters while gently making us aware of our complete insignificance amidst the vastness of space and time.
That anecdote about putting a blanket beneath nervous actors foot is just so simple and nice solution. Easier to hide nervous habit than try to remove it with force.
A mesmerizing masterpiece! The attention to detail is exquisite. The intermingling of music and imagery is elegant and wonderous. A profound cinematic experience.
Best sci fi film ever. So so far ahead of its time and still really fresh today.
RUclips pushed a notification to my iPhone. Jumped out of my bed, poured some coffee and started to watch immediately. Such a great job! These videos are fantastic!!!
1901 Discovery ship. 100 years before 2001!
Pentaminoes! Penta = 5. Tetra = 4.
Alexey Pajitinov created Tetris in 1984! The pieces are called Tertaminoes!
+Strother Pitzke That makes me very happy to hear! Hope you enjoyed it!
+Strother Pitzke Very interesting! Thanks for sharing!
YES
FINALLY
Tyler, your channel is unquestionably one of the best original film analysis compilations on the internet, much less RUclips. Cannot wait to see it continue, and have no idea why it hasn't exploded into the popularity it deserves.
+Devon Hayes Thank you so much for the kind words! I really appreciate it!
I've been watching your vids about 2001 and I never realized the time, effort, detail, and thought that went into it. It's insane! Kubrick was incredibly goal oriented. He did whatever it took to realize his vision, including pushing himself.
On a side note, I had dinner with Arthur C. Clarke in 1970 at a NASA dinner. i was a young engineer at the time working on the space program. An executive I knew heard me talking about how the movie inspired me. He said, "Would you like to meet Mr. Clarke?" and I found myself sitting 4 chairs away from him at dinner where he was the speaker. (I have a photo of him and me at the dinner). He spoke about the movie, about how IBM was not HAL one letter apart by conscious choice, how one must read the book and see the movie several times to understand the meaning, and thanked all the manufacturers working for NASA (vendors). He humorously reminded us that we were the lowest bidders. At the table, he fielded so many questions that he had trouble eating. He seemed to have a hearing deficit on one side because he held his cupped hand to his ear when someone spoke from the left side.I didn't ask him anything - a combination of being the 'junior' person at the table and being star struck. It was obvious we were in the presence of genius. Kubrick certainly chose the right collaborator for this movie.
That's "legendary". Great memories!
2001 is my favorite film of all time. I saw it in a brand new, huge theater in 1968, and was mesmerized by the whole thing.
Thank you for providing some amazing behind-the-scenes info, this was great!
"2001" just literally blew us away when we first saw it in Cinemascope in '68 - I was 15 at the time and had never seen anything like it - it was revelatory. Thanks for this series that unpacks all the expertise that went in to making this epic film.
In 1979, Clarke published a book titled 'The Lost Worlds of 2001'. I still have my copy, and it's a fascinating look at how the script evolved and changed.
Wow, the entire world has longed for such a thickly researched work on 2001... You present previously unseen images, production images and even some video showing camera and light placement, with actors present and waiting for the action to begin.
And it appears there are dozens of these videos about 2001!
You should get something big for this!
Thanks so much!
You could send him money or support him in whatever ways he has available!
@Dan Tyler Or, you could just read The Making of 2001: A Space Odyssey. I know---paper, right?
Can't believe I've only just discovered these tubes. 2001 is my favourite movie of all time and I extend my heartfelt thanks to you for the time and effort you have taken to make this series. Kudos amigo.
Thanks so much! You're lucky to be coming across it now that it has been completed. Some people had to wait two years!
I first saw 2001 when it came out in 1968. I saw it in Cinerama in London. When Mick Jagger saw it then he said, "It was the most fantastic thing I've ever seen". I concur. It has been my favorite film ever since. Nothing to touch it. These videos of yours are so good, so fascinating, and so informative. Has any director ever gone to so much trouble in making a film?
+fidomusic Thanks for sharing! I'm glad you liked them. I think anyone would be hard-pressed to find a director who has put such an enormous amount of thought into a single film.
Cinerama London was a fantastic theatre and amazing audio. The depth of the bass notes amazing, you could feel the sound.
I just discovered your channel yesterday and I've already watched a bunch of your videos. I love your taste in movies and the ones you choose to make videos about. You do such a great job with these documentaries. I just wanted to say that and get it off my chest because your channel is great.
@9:01 Vickers made a lot of really innovative one-of-a-kind contraptions. During WWII they made a complicated bombing simulator that projected terrain and a bomb going off to train bombardiers. It was called the "Vickers-Bygrave Bombing Teacher".
Knowing all of the hard work that goes into the smallest detail makes me appreciate this film SO much more. Like the multiple projections to create the video screens. Nowadays that would be so simple but so much hard work had to go into everything.
Excellent series of videos. My favourite film of all time. I was lucky enough to go to the live screening in London with a full orchestra and choir. Spine tingling and unforgettable.
Looking at some of the techniques for shooting in the centrifuge, I remember seeing a still of the camera pointing at a large mirror on the floor to capture a shot of something above. The most impressive aspect of the filming was how creativity and common sense were used by Kubrick and the crew to solve the problems of achieving shots that had the audience baffled at the time.
Thanks! That sounds amazing! I love how some of the most mind blowing effects were really simple when you find out how they were done.
This series is among the best film analyses I have seen online. Thank you for making and sharing this.
Glad you liked it!
Thank you so much for this series. 2001 is still my favourite film, superseding even the first Star Wars. I had just turned 16 at the time, had obtained my motorcycle licence and had thus managed to borrow my father's scooter, so as to enable me to head into town and see the movie. You could hear a pin drop it was so quiet during screening, and at the movie's conclusion it felt strange riding home, as if I was at the controls of one of the pods whilst steering the scooter. I try and watch it at least once per year and parts of it on RUclips, so seeing the extra bits makes it worth it.
Tyler, thank you for all the insight into my favorite film of all times. I highly appreciate your commitment to understanding the essence and the making of this marvelous film. THANK YOU AGAIN
Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching!
@CinemaTyler you are rocking this, man. I wish everything on RUclips was this well researched and presented.
Most of us would never have known this information it wasn't for your research in these videos! Wonderful stuff!!
+codeecrottz Thanks! It's amazing how much info is out there!
I’m thankful for all your hard work on these. Well done, sir.
So prior to Gary Lockwood's veiled criticism towards Stanley Kubrick were the astronauts to have discussed disconnecting HAL on deck where obviously HAL could hear them? Which would have been inadvisable to say the least. Lockwood's idea that they should talk in a pod out of HAL's detection was a great idea and for me really added to the tension. That HAL is able to lip read is a brilliant solution ramping up the tension still further whilst also moving the story along. HAL's lip reading was unquestioned by me as i first saw this film in the late 90's and it was a technological reality. Funny to think a computer's ability to do this was considered unlikely at the time of filming by some on set whereas to a future viewer such as myself it didn't even raise an eyebrow. Kudos to Kubrick both for hearing Lockwood's criticism, adopting his idea of the pod conversation and then coming up with a solution for HAL to determine what the astronauts were discussing.
its a highly emotional thing to watch such excellence and perfection. Stanley Kubrick was from a another world...
There is great odds into facts, Stanley had deep knowledge of projects never revealed to any surface earthling, every Sci-Fi specs in the video looked extremely expensive, yet ( with respect) far more effective than all the space programs today.
Even correct on all anomolly, from AI sentient & consciousness issues, the comparison of espionage leaks of Cosmonauts achievements far beyond the west, all the way to conspiracy photo evidence of stealth military elites colonization in realms not of Earth.
He may have attempted to reveal, using a sci-fi portrayed of these trials and errors into the actual drama events. That health condition of Stanley's last days, is also controversial. Poor HAL (IB&M AI) only got a second acting part in Night Rider 2 ( the second version).
I mean. Let me just say thank you for your work. The level of effort and detail that you put into this is beyond anything else I’ve seen. You are appreciated good sir.
Wow! Excellent series! I saw "2001" the first time in 1969 and it has remained my favorite sf movie. I had no idea of all of the painstaking effort that went into it.
Indeed, some of the past episodes of this.. getting the stars behind the models!!!
This is excellent. The first two books I ever bought for myself, when I was in the 7th grade at a school library sale, was the paperback of the gigantically thick "Making of Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey" and "Planet of the Apes." I loved both those books to death. That was a long time ago. Thanks for putting this together. Great job.
+Warren Fahy Thanks! I don't think I could have made this series without that book. So much great info!
This is an outstanding video essay. The details and care invested in it are...Kubrickian!
Since the film's release, it's been discovered that the amount of radiation and cosmic ray activity in interplanetary space is so strong that an astronaut could not survive a flight to Jupiter, at least with present technology.
This has clearly been an epic project - and you've done it with passion and dedication. I think it's a superb effort, and any fan of this classic film will find these videos engaging and compelling. Well done - and thank you for making this series. All of us watching, I am sure, are very grateful for your hard work.
I'm pretty impressed with the amount of research, presentation and verve you come at these with. I've been binging your channel for days. Sincerely one of the best cinema channels on the platform. One of the best channels period actually. And that's coming from a filmmaker making a living halfway across the world. Also just a hardcore film geek in general. Kudos brother.
Yes brother
I remember hearing the Kubrick wanted the film to be the best science-fiction film ever made... all the details were so accurate, the scenes inside Discovery with the centrifuge were incredible and I think nothing has been done like this since!
again, thank you so much for putting so much work into making these videos
And he succeeded. Too bad modern sci-fi filmmakers lack his dedication; if they applied seven a small share of the effort Stanley did, their works would've been much more palatable
It seems there was meticulous planning of making this movie, yet Kubric was willing to improvise or change the original plan at any point to get a better result. It's a winning set up for creative work. Also interesting how he would create something organically eg with the lip reading dialog: Letting the actors improvise on a long script, use the recorded improvisation and let them work on that one once again until the right length was achieved... this is so much more natural to achieve a shorter dialogue than asking a scrip writer to simple a cut script short.
Kubrick did this in ALL his films - 2001 is no exception - will do a video on this soon.
This is amazing, the amount of detail is beautiful
Favourite film, and favourite RUclips series! Great job!!!!
+Joe Watson Thanks! Glad you liked it!
I agree
I have all of this information in text, but to hear your excellent narration, brings this all to life! Thank you so much for producing this!
This is the first made for youtube material I have ever liked, good job dude, very impressive.
The Kubrick info here is invaluable for potential filmmakers.
Thank you! That really means a lot!
Wow, this is an impressive deep dive into what’s probably my favorite movie of all time. Looks like I have just found my newest RUclips binge. Great work.
I very rarely post anything on RUclips but you're videos are very well made and insightful. And most importantly entertaining. Thanks. Peace
This gentleman is a genius. I believe with what he has learned from his academic endeavors, he might make a fine director.
Some of the details in this game such as the article frank was reading the chess game are amazing! The detail that Kubrick puts in his films are amazing!
Watching your analysis of the film reminds me just why it is arguably the best film of my (baby boomer) generation. Thank you so much for this series, it is fantastic!
This is a phenomenal video! The amount of work it must have taken shows, just like in 2001. Well done!
I love the depth of analysis here, both creatively and technically.
+DysnomiaFilms Thanks! This is such a fun series to make. The more I research, the deeper the rabbit hole goes...
CinemaTyler
You could sell this when it's finished as a standalone documentary if you wanted, it's so good. Kubrick is my favourite filmmaker.
DysnomiaFilms Mine too! He really knew how to use the medium to its fullest potential.
Thank you for your excellent, exhaustive insights into 2001--a lot of research on your part. It's really overwhelming how much effort went into this epic film! I look forward to your next part!
+Sutterjack I'm constantly blown away at how much thought and detail went into each frame of this film. Thanks for watching!
A 54-foot model for the Discovery. Wow. If I heard someone was using a model that size for a Sci-Fi movie I would be so excited. No matter how great computer graphics are, they always look slightly off.
26:55 excellent still of the shooting set of this location! I saw the movie in '68 and followed it ever since--first time ever seeing this. It's like trying to see the Star Trek bridge set on the RKO stage in '66--damn near impossible.
The amount of practical effects details is staggering
Fantastic breakdown of my favorite movie of all time. Terrific job! I’m really enjoying this series. For many years I taught Clarke’s book and Kubrick’s film in a college English class. If only I’d had your videos as teaching tools! Alas, now I’m retired from teaching. Thanks so much for the work you’ve done in putting these together!
24:16 Thanks so much for this. I finally learn how they did that shot after over 40 years of wondering.
I'm just discovering (ha) this series now. It's definitely the best 2001 doc on RUclips. Thanks so much for it!
This whole series just makes me smile.
What a fascinating document! 2001 is one of my favorite sci-fi movie. It shows the true golden age of 'analog' visual effects.
I especially enjoyed the bit about the gelatin and peanut butter. A perfect example of a movie grows very organically (no pun intended). And yes, I agree - I hope in future prints, his mom has a credit as 'Food Science Consultant'.
There is a hell of a lot more details that are accessible through this site. Cinema Tyler has done his homework, bar none!!!
Thanks! I really appreciate it!
I wish there had been videos like yours in Art/Film School! So interesting and thought provoking, it keeps me awake and engaged in the process of filmmaking and creating. Fantastic job! :-)
+Odyssey Mosaic Thanks! This is the kind of stuff I would research when I was procrastinating on essays while I was in college. I'm glad you enjoyed it!
+CinemaTyler I did, very much and thanks! :-)
These are some of the most captivating videos I’ve come across for a long time. Thank you.
The jogging scene in the centrifuge is accompanied not by Chopin (as told in the narrative) but by the world famous and then-living Armenian composer Aram Khachaturian's "Gayane: Adagio"...
Chopin is what they were playing on the set while they were filming the scene.
Most underrated youtuber!!! Amazing job!!!
+Aningaaq Møller Thank you!
WOW! You have THE most awesome RUclips icon!!!
Anything that adds this much to our appreciation of a work of such intense brilliance as 2001, as this series of documentaries does, is itself worthy of the highest possible praise.
As for the film itself, one of the many things that has pleased me more and more as the years have gone by is the technology design and the way it gradually coincides with the world today. For instance, the screens. Just look inside the cockpit of, say, an Airbus A380 or a Dreamliner and I think you'll catch my drift. Not to mention the large all-screen tablet computers. I frequently have wondered whether the set design was astonishingly prescient, or just so incredibly, indelibly influential that the way we do so many things now was because of they way Kubrick and his team did it in "2001".
Either way, the richness and texture and importance of this production means it will endure for as long as any other major work of art: perhaps indefinitely. In that sense, I really believe that, as a motion picture, it is one of a kind.
I've been taking my time watching this, and I'm so excited to finish it. This is absolutely brilliant. You are excellent at film analysis, this is true effort and talent
I'm so happy to hear that you enjoyed it! I'm working on Part 6 now!
I didn't want it to be over!!!!
MORE PLEASE! 👍
+T Gill Thanks! The next part is already written, so it won't take nearly as long to make and I have another video in the pipeline nearing completion, so stay tuned!
This was fantastic! I thought I'd seen everything related to the making of this miraculous movie but this video was like Christmas for me. Absolutely loved it.
I found this series and your channel earlier tonight.. i must be sleeping, but i can't left to watch! great videos!
Wow, thanks!
It's so much easier to make films like 2001 nowadays, but the screenplays and the scripts fall so short of Stanley's work. His production values and attention to detail were quite literally almost insane.
It's easier but in a lot of ways, the special effects available in the 60's look a lot better than they do now. You just have to go through a lot more to get them.
Thanks so much for this series! I've been obsessed with 2001 since seeing it as a teenage the year it was released. Really enjoy learning more about all the details of the production, writing, performances, etc. Kubrick was totally unique. Personally, he seemed able to charm people, but was incredibly tough and unrelenting in completing his projects... three or four of the best movies ever made. Man, do I wish we had a couple of directors today as great as Kubrick, Antonioni...
I love this series man! It's helping me thru the production of my scifi project. Keep the good work coming!
+ShortScope Review (dkay3000) Thanks! Glad I could help!
You are extremely thorough in your work, well done. also love the music you chose in this series.
I first watched this movie when I was 12. I had no idea how much work was put into every detail of this film until now
I love this series so much. Thanks for all your work.
Thank you for another lovely video, Tyler. Just amazing.
Also: 16:17 Vibrator.
You're right about the pod bay being impressive. I saw the movie at the Martin Cinerama theater in St Louis in May of 1968 on a 150 foot curved screen. You felt like you were there!
Remarkable effort. Only thing to note are at 27:01, the shot that you note is shot with "the" wide angle lens used for the movie's cinematography is actually shot by Mr. K. himself during set prep or downtime. He is using a super-wide, low distortion specialty camera called a Widelux (there's two of them, not sure which one was in use). There is a rotating lens that swings just a bit in order to minimize wide-angle distortion. Some of those images were used for the promo booklet distributed to theaters for sale.
The super-duper wide angle lens that Mr. K. is supposed to have commissioned for this movie and perhaps used for Barry Lyndon, was used sparingly during production. Mostly because it yielded a smaller image circle on the film and had a lot of distortion. (I believe that is the lens on display in the traveling Kubrick exhibit.)
I do believe a lot of wides were used but nothing like that 165- or 180- degree used in the pod bay "circuit test" shot (or the hub-link shots or "show me your artwork" shot). I think they were rather the widest Panavision lenses at the time.
Thanks! That makes perfect sense now that I've come across his Widelux photos of the Dorchester Hotel in the final episode of this series. I never made that connection!
I believe I saw the lens you were speaking of. Kubrick really made perfect use of that super wide angle. I love that shot of Dave and Frank entering the pod bay and you get this wonderful claustrophobic feel with the wide angle lens. Thanks so much for your fascinating insights!
You are very generous, Sir-- you put all this wonderful new info and imagery together-- it is you who have brought me back to my love and fascination of 2001. Alas, I believe the shots you mention do not use the Widelux, which was a still camera. Those were done with some kind of smaller but still monstrous 65mm camera-- big and bulky but Kubrick was a younger man and able to shoulder it. You may recall he shot the exterior footage of the assault on the army base in Strangelove.
I really scratch my head that they actually had "Journey Beyond the Stars" as the working title. I mean, yikes. Very glad they reconsidered; that was good thinking.
The work you put into this is wonderful. Thank you
First time I've seen your channel. I have read many books on 2001 and your presentation is absolutely superb. I learned many new things about the production and will now be checking out your other presentations on this game-changing film. Thank you for all of your hard work.
This is just a fantastic documentary. Its genius that they thought of all this stuff . . . everything.
Wonderful work, exceptionally researched. Many thanks for what was clearly a labor of love, and a very successful one.
22:00 I actually had a discussion with some friends of mine about their demeanor. It seems like that would be pretty accurate for an astronaut/spaceship crew to act calm like that considering the possible stresses involved and training they received to counter that. It reminds me of a TED Talk that Chris Hadfield did about water from a tear blinding him during a spacewalk, and how he had so much training that he knew how to solve the issue.
Dude, This exploration of 2001 is absolutely awesome
great work man! really exceeded the expectations...
the take on chess match was mind blowing... excellent work... waiting for next video eagerly...
+subodh singh Thanks! I had always wondered if there was something more to that chess match and was blown away when I looked into it. A chess enthusiast mane an interesting video on the match if you're interested. ruclips.net/video/4rSBSyvayiE/видео.html
+CinemaTyler thanks man! really great video and work. thanks for the link...
Your videos (especially the Kubrick ones) are excellent and would have made great bonus features on the actual dvds
This is a fantastic series. I have one small suggestion for the future, which is that you pause a little between topic changes. Your narration tends to just run straight on from one thing to the next, and it's the audio equivalent of trying to read a long essay with no paragraph breaks. But I admire the amount of research and effort that's gone into it.
Great videos! So well done! Out of all the awesomeness of 2001, one thing that stands out is how all the screens were "flat"...not TV tubes...a prediction of the future.
Really liking this series a lot.
The HAL-as-social-manipulator theory is a good one, but there's also the option for a more innocuous portrayal of his chess mistake: if you're assuming that the psychological stress of keeping the mission's true purpose a secret is interfering with his ability to function-essentially a nervous breakdown (the tack taken by Clarke in 2010 and onwards, for example), the early checkmate call can be seen more as a symptom of that breakdown rather than an attempt to manipulate Frank. Indeed, there's a minor tragedy; if Frank had noticed the mistake, things might be different.
Thank you! That's a very interesting take. I wonder if the twin 9000 back on Earth knew it wasn't in space. Perhaps it did considering that it didn't make the mistake that the Discovery's HAL did.
Well, in the novel, HAL's breakdown was more associated with a natural side effect of the increasing complexity of his AI circuitry-once it reached a critical point, it would have been possible for him to become psychotic/neurotic as a random event, and had the crew not confronted him, he might have found a way to work it out. One of the twin 9000 computers (there were two on Earth in the book) also developed similar symptoms as HAL independently.
Well, there's a couple things that come out of that-either the nervous breakdown was so intense it was legitimately compromising HAL's fault detection equipment, or HAL decided to outright lie about the AE-35 unit so he wouldn't feel so paranoid about his masters on Earth monitoring him for signs of cracking.
Actually, that also goes back to the scene were HAL asks questions of Dave about the mission, hinting at the monolith and the strange circumstances surrounding the mission. The conspiratorial theory would suggest that HAL was actively testing Dave's psychological disposition like he did Frank, only Dave saw through his questioning, and HAL subsequently started a "crash" gambit upon realizing that he no longer had control over the crew as he thought he did. I, however, tend to prefer a different theory-that HAL was actually trying to resolve the conflict he had by trying to figure out what Dave already knew or suspected. If he knew enough, HAL might have been able to come clean-if Dave already knew about the monolith, he wouldn't need to keep it a secret anymore. But Dave either had no idea, or just thought it was only a psych eval, and that's the moment HAL decided to break contact, possibly so he could vent the whole thing without Earth listening in. However, the outright lie about the AE-35 unit probably made his breakdown worse, and Frank didn't help matters much... :P
Fascinating doc, well-produced. The narration is fine for me, but I know what you mean. Thanks for your efforts.
The sets were incredible.
Thanks Stan.
i find this really relaxing to watch
+olivia brocklehurst Thanks! The lovely music is by Chris Zabriskie. I must admit I also love listening to Keir Dullea's voice-- it has gotten even better with age.
Fascinating stuff - and lovely to see the footage from the 2014 event with Kier and Gary in London, I was there in the audience.
Hearing Kier talk about how much Kubrick coddled him on set, all I could think about was that footage of Shelley Duvall pulling out clumps of her hair and Kubrick saying " Don't be nice to Shelley".
Rather, what I remember from what you are citing is Kubrick's sarcasm towards Duvall for the "clumps " of hair, when in fact it was only a few strands.
@@ssmith5048 yea. He wasn't THAT mean to her. I've had WAY worse bosses than that.
He was almost certainly doing it on purpose to get the performance he wanted from her. She did Popeye after The Shining, I think. Talk about a study in contrasts!
Kubrick understood actors - much better than he is given credit for. He provides for them exactly the environment they need in order to achieve the performance he is looking for. Sometimes that means "coddling" - but other times, different means are necessary to create the appropriate triggers to get what he needs. Let's be honest - Shelley Duvall is not the most accomplished thespian who has ever graced the earth, and getting the level of saturated fear and panic out of her performance (when it was called for) required extraordinary measures.
@@chuckschillingvideos The result of this was, that Kubrick permanently damaged Duvall's mental health.
When a 54 year old sci fi movie is better than all the sci fi movies combined after then u know its a masterpiece