In fairness to Nicole, if she's reading a book that's 100 years old, that makes her about 2400 years more up to date with science than most flat earthers.
Not really, as the little we see of the book shows that it was arrant nonsense even in 1910. No educated person would have taken it seriously even then.
When debunking something, I always refer to books written hundreds of years ago. For example, I can absolutely confirm that trains cannot go over 25mph because instant death will result. Limbs will fly off, you may spontaneously combust or go insane if you go too fast. This is confirmed by a newspaper article I read from Victorian times and so must be 100% accurate.
@@-oiiio-3993 Haha, that's true! :D But her older (near identical) sister, Olympic, _was_ launched in 1910. The class of 3 ships was declared to be "unsinkable" by the various news articles at the time - simply because the reporters neglected to add the qualifier of "practically" in front of the word, and so created the myth.
I love the argument about the Sun. If the Sun is large then everyone would see it at the same time and at effectively the same angle. That's true - if the Earth is flat. As soon as the Earth is a sphere though, then the people on it are facing in different directions. We should congratulate her on picking an argument which highlights a flaw in the Flat Earth model.
That's false. In both models - the standard heliocentric and the "flat earth, close sun" - people would see the sun at different angles. The reason why we cannot see the sun on our globe at all times is because for about half the time... THERE'S A HUGE FRIGGING BALL OF ROCK BETWEEN US AND THE SUN. But Flerfs' understanding of that is... Dougalesque... "small - far away - small - far away". No, they don't get it either. Of course, they came up with a rather good conjecture to explain it. In their world, the "object" blocking the view to the sun at night is the atmosphere (blasphemy, I know) itself. And they do have a point there. As much of a point as flerfs can have. Visibility through the air is limited, due to light scattering and absorbtion. How this effect would really look like, with correct data and formula... that's nothing they worry about. Numbers aren't static in Flerf-World... they are emotional factors. Still... it's a point. But it's a point that made me think: if the light from the sun is reduced to almost nothing due to distance through the atmosphere... how could it be that the moon - which according to flerfism is the same size and distance as the sun, but send out a lot less light - is visible under the same conditions to the same distance? I would like to see which explanations the flerfs could come up with for that. They can, certainly. You can always find an explanation when all your explanations are made up. I know that I "found" an explanation after just two minutes. Still... would be interesting to see if they even understood the problem.
"No evidence for a round earth" Erastathenes proved it with a couple of sticks over 2200 years ago Dock workers observed this for thousands of years seeing ships disappear bottom up over the horizons They also observed this in the fact the curve of the earth obscures islands at great distances. The curve can be viewed with sufficient altitude. Photographs from space have been taken of the earth, including one from the moon. Things traveling sufficient distances must take coriolis into account If you travel east and maintain your heading perfectly, you'll come right back to where you started. Motion of the planets in our sky only makes sense with a heliocentric model Rotation of the stars in the night sky is visible with timelapse lenses and only makes sense on a spinning ball The arc of the sun's motion over the sky over the course of a year only makes sense on a spinning ball. Gravity would destroy a flat earth, as those on the edge of the disk would be pulled to the center, but gravity would easily create spherical planets, we understand this easily with modern physics (this is why flerfers are so insistent to try to debunk gravity) I could continue Nicole.
No. Erastathenes did NOT prove a globe. He already knew it was and devised a method to get a good estimate just how big it is . He calculated the circumference of the already known globe. Ancients were not stupid.
@@erict.watson2460 Because a lunar eclipse is when the Moon moves into Earth's shadow. Kinda hard to manage that on a flat Earth, especially since most flerthers think the moon and sun move in a circuit over the Earth.
I took a quarter held it between my thumb and index finger with my arm straight out and with one eye closed and looking at the quarter with the other eye could barely see the sun. Since we know umbrellas are much larger than quarters I can back up your scientific findings.
She definitely proved it. And by "it" I mean the fact that there have always been a tiny minority of idiots more than happy to put their ignorance on display in the public forum.
Since grammar and spelling error are under higher scrutiny when arguing against crazy people, I thought I'd arm you with this knowledge: "proved" isn't a real word. The correct way to say this is "She's definitely proven it." Have a good day.
@@Alice_Fumo Correction, “Proved” is a past participle and also the past tense of prove. Both “Proved” and “Proven” are considered correct, however most literary instructors advise using “Proved”.
@@Alice_Fumo - According to Oxford: Prove verb forms: present simple I / you / we / they prove /pruːv/ /pruːv/ he / she / it proves /pruːvz/ /pruːvz/ past simple proved /pruːvd/ /pruːvd/ past participle proved /pruːvd/ /pruːvd/ As grammar nazis are under even more stringent scrutiny, it's important to check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.
@@ArcadiaVibe Seems you're right. I've rarely ever seen the word proved before, though. Apparently proven is generally used in American English whilst proved is more of an England thing. At least if I'm to trust the resource I just read about this. Thanks for letting me know either way.
For the "Do Your Own Research!" crew: JOHN G. ABIZAID's highest level of education was four years of high school. In the 1910 and 1920 US Census, he's listed as the owner of a razor manufacturing shop. He must have lost his business though because in the 1930 and 1940 Census he's working in a leather goods factory. No scientific background. AURIN F. HILL, an avid diarist who nicknamed HIMSELF "the insane architect" was committed to an insane asylum twice, spent time in jail and practiced as a spiritual medium, phrenologist and union activist during his life. He was known as a contrarian and purposefully picketed against popular ideas. He protested lynching. He also protested vaccinations. His motto was, "I am my own God until I find a better man." WILLIAM J. HUTCHINSON, well...like SciMan, I can't find him anywhere. It was a common name and without knowing more, it would be difficult to pinpoint him further but Mr. Hutchinson may be found a liar in other ways. A simple spelling error, maybe, but he wrote from the Academy of Science† when in fact it is the Academy of Sciences, plural. And the only meaningful acronym I could find for someone who would title themselves AFC from an Academy of Sciences would be "Application for Certification" meaning they have applied and are awaiting certification. Seems a bit presumptuous to write on behalf of a group you are not formally a member of. Sources matter. † EDIT: Guido Makor made an excellent observation I had previously missed. It actually says Academy FOR Science, not OF. So either Mr. Hutchinson REALLY made a spelling error or he made up an organization similar to a real and respected organization to sound smart and added some letters to his name that don't mean anything. What a goober to pick AFC though. **facepalm**
SciManDan should pin this at the top, everyone needs to see your excellent research. The dim flerfer girl needs to see it as well, she obviously hasn't done any research herself, as per normal for flerfs.
The newspaper article she posts says he is a « self-styled natural philosopher « . It also gives his adress: 3 Malden Street South End. Might try to look it up!
@@Leo-wk7yw Thank you. It took about an hour. More time than she spent trying to understand where this book came from. Well worth the time, in my opinion.
@@TalonBrush Ofc that's cutting edge. Previous one was written over 2000 years ago, and it's still relevant for them! Hundred years ago is like ... yestrday. It's so fresh, you can almost smell the new print.
@@thisisme2681 I can imagine her reaction if she visited doctor complaining of a tummy ache and he proceeded to drain a pint of blood out of her by cutting her wrist and prescribing a copper bracelet.
I don't know - the book didn't have the slightest idea that a round earth means people face different directions. Today's flat earthers know that, so they have to make their model much stupider with their lampshade circling sun
And remember, schools "educate" these people, keep promoting schools, gonna be nothing but protestors, flat earthers, and never asking questions and do nothing but follow the pack
Holy crap... RUclips actually recommended me with a video I haven't seen yet... Something is currently BADLY wrong with the "algorithm"... Thanks Dan :)
I've refreshed home like 20 times and get the same stuff every time every day. I might rewatch that video sometime, but it's unlikely i want to watch an snl sketch 5 minutes after I watched it the first time. But youtube will avoid new videos by people I want to see stuff from.
What's badly wrong with the algorithm is that it _exists at all._ That shit is killing us, and I'm not exaggerating. Algorithms push outrage and nonsense because they value engagement, not truth, and look where it's gotten us.
"I've never been anywhere or done anything interesting but I know EXACTLY how the universe works because this old book which is very convincing because it makes sense that the ancients know more than us tells me that I don't need stupid 'science' to know exactly how everything works."
I think she was seduced by the mustache dude. She so was impresed about how big it was ... I'm telling you, a big mustache and girls will find you irresistable. It's science boys!
Hi Dan. I really really, very very wish I were a flat-earther, still in my forties, and a multimillionaire. Why? I would fund an expedition to the Ice Wall. The purpose of the expedition would be to scale the Ice Wall (live streaming most of the time) and then see what’s beyond. What would I be hoping to find? What would be my obsession? To see what’s underneath. Is there a plughole? If we pull the plug out, can we drain the ocean and find all the sunken ships? Why won’t any of these flat-earthers fund an expedition to the Ice Wall?
@@BoilerRoom4 what would you like me to put up before I shut up? Are you perhaps confusing me with one of those stone age thinkers who belive in all that flat earth boll8cks? Ice wall, 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Imagine reading this book when it came out, when all you could have as evidence of the contrary was the words of another book and some easy tests you could do yourself... A few people could fall for it sure... Now imagine reading that same book, in an age where we literally have satellites orbiting the planet, the ability to see pictures taken from space from a portable computer in your pocket with all humanity's knowledge at a fingertip, a space station, plans to go to Mars, and still believing it
Finally, Nicole has given us a proof that no 'globe earth believer' can debunk. Unfortunately for her, that proof is that there were idiots before the world wide web was a thing. Who'd have thought.
But in those times somebody had to write the book, you had to buy the book and read the whole book. Nowadays, the bullsh..t comes into the house absolutely free. And you don't even have to read anymore, you can just watch a video. Hasn't mankind evolved?
Actually its been more common for the bulk of humanity to believe complete garbage than believe actual facts for most of written history. Never forget that most of the worlds religions controlled education and writing for most of the entire written history of humanity. Its way too hard to argue with educated people and far easier to get uneducated people to go to war.
@@Achie79 This is true, and presumably even in 1910 the book had to be pitched to a publisher, edited, proofread and printed yet it still made it to the book stands. Interesting how we have come so far, as you rightly point out, by removing those filters.
@@tonywilson4713 Yes, that’s exactly what my astrologer was just telling me. Touch wood, we don’t believe the nonsense the people in the olden days did.
If they could interpret their own experiments correctly, they wouldn't be Flat Earthers! Just stating the obvious! =======================================================================================================================
I love how she says "if the sun was big you could simultaneously see it from everywhere on Earth" while ignoring that a flat Earth is where that would happen
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@@loturzelrestaurant Sadly, "clearly fixable" is very optimistic. Yes, if people all over the world would change their behaviour now drastically. But let's be honest, none of this is currently really happening. And humanity only makes it worse with all their petty infighting instead of getting together and solving real problems to make life better for everyone.
@@ronik24 HENCE why i commented not the 'pessimistic false idea' but the 'actually, real, actual idea' of it being fixable still. This generation (for very, very good reasons) has a rather dark outlook on the future and that's exactly why it should be noted: No, it's not "too late": No Scientist ever said "Were all doomed! Ahhhhhhh!" Actually, it's fixable still. We're not on the point of 'No-Return' at all, in fact.
@@ronik24 ANYWAY: If Doomsday is Tomorrow, i would literally still watch Hbomberguys video about Climate-Change because of the amazing humor anyway. So that's the Top-Strategy either way anyway.
The newspaper article had a sentence "self styled natural philosopher". Anyone else recon this means "whackadoodle with no qualifications other than those he gave himself"? Nice to hear the return of the yodelling 😁👍
1910. Mauritania and Lusitania were making regular transatlantic crossings when this book was published. Olympic and Titanic were in planning or early construction. Also "King Edward's on the throne and it's the age of men." (according to Mr. Banks. 😉) Old books are fascinating even if the information is out-of-date. I love to look and see what words and phrases are used that have long since gone out of fashion.
Damn I was wondering what was wrong with me today. I hear her but it is not getting in my head. And then Dan asks a question and I am like sorry no clue what kind of BS she just said.
This might be the least passionate flat earther RUclipsr that I've ever seen. The pure mono-tonal monotonous reading of those excerpts nearly put me to sleep.
Well, the voice of holocaust-denier Eric Dubay is also monotonous and boring. Which is intentional, it is important that the 200 proofs are 2 hours long and repetitive, so you lose attention to look at the individual proofs. I downloaded the 72-page pamphlet to be able to comment on it and it was apparent immediately it is all repetitive gibberish.
@@feedingravens You are right about Erics voice and all those monotonous parts are also the only things that make sense lmao {The holocaust denier part was a nice touch, made me laugh. :) just like all flat earthers}
It's kind of creepy to see that flat earthers (arguments and even their conversations between each other) haven't changed appreciably in over 100 years.
What I find the most interesting about this is that styalistically, flat earthers haven't changed much in the past 100+ years. (They also haven't learned much in the same time period)
It's striking that the arguments and "evidence" hasn't advanced, and that after all this time there still isn't a working demonstration of the flat earth..... Wonder why that is
I wonder how she would feel about that Aurin Hill letter of she knew more about him. He was a noted former athiest turned spiritualist, socialist that helped found a union, thought women had "as much right to share their secrets as cats and dogs". Was forcibly placed in asylums twice. A wonderful quote of his. "A young girl dressed in white threw glances of regard at me even when young men about her age was near her. She had freckles on her face, but she had clear eyes and a clean skin. Something comes and tells me she was the she God of flies as the Great Spirit of flies claims those people who have freckles on their faces as belonging to the Fly kingdom of animal existence on this earth."
That is a great achievement to found a union and great courage to be a socialist. Shame they had to go full mental with the spiritual theist god bullshit.
I wrote a book. It's called The Earth is Shaped Like a Pretzel. It has one chapter called The Earth is Shaped Like a Pretzel. Therefore the Earth is-- Well, you get my pretzel.
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It gets me literally every time, and every time I’m almost reduced to yelling at whatever screen I happen to be watching when I hear someone say “they say the earth is round but there’s *_no proof of that whatsoever. It’s ridiculous_* “. I mean, do you honestly just have no comprehension of what the word _proof_ means? The tendency of these people to equate their failure to comprehend the mountain of proof with there being no proof will never stop agitating me to the core. Maybe if they amended it a bit…. “There’s no proof of that whatsoever, except the endless amount of proof that we don’t like, or that we personally can’t make sense of. I mean, if you don’t count all of that then there’s no proof.”
I think it's common to every conspiracy theorists* and I guess it comes from narcissist traits. Proof=argument that would prove (!)me(!) a statement. If we wouldn't pay attention to that "me" part, it sounds closer to "argument that proves statement" that "argument I would agree with" - the latter being close equivalent while the first simply sounds close. And I think it's a successful tool of manipulation their own people because they don't care about details/the point, just about the look/the sound of their ramblings, i.e. it's supposed to sound scientific and nobody cares about the merit. The other sentence that follows this rule would be "we can all agree that the Earth is flat" vs. "the Earth is flat". Because we can agree to anything (1st), but it doesn't make it real (2nd) - it sounds close, tho. * I know there were conspiracy theories that were proven to be true, mainly in political field, but I think there's a big difference in people questioning things because certain inconsistencies/doubts vs. people who think they know for sure something's a lie despite a number of proofs they are wrong
I follow Dan because he's always on the side of scientific authority without exception. And that makes me feel smart for trusting scientific authority all these years when he mocks anyone who didn't do the same. They don't understand science actually IS faith. It really is. It's about having faith in the genius PhDs and their consensus. So "science" actually means trusting the current consensus sort of like a religious text & then defending it from lunatic, crazy conspiracy theorists who don't understand science actually IS faith. And just because we don't always have evidence to show we've been right all along to believe the consensus like a sacred text doesn't mean they have the right to just question whatever they want. It's obnoxious, who do they think they are questioning genius PhDs in positions of scientific authority? It would be like an Atheist questioning or doubting what their priests say. They wouldn't like that either. I mean, obviously we do that all the time, but that doesn't mean they can question OUR priests & get away with it. I've started chanting "Earth is not flat. Earth is not flat. Earth is not flat. Earth is not flat" right over flat earther arguments when I debate them and it helps. Mainly I follow Dan because I like the mocking & ridiculing of the crazy conspiracy theorists who, frankly, have no right to be questioning my pre-existing beliefs like that. It makes us good people who know science IS faith lack confidence and makes me angry. No one likes having their beliefs questioned like that. So I come here and watch Dan call them names and I feel better about my faith.
@@joshuapray You don't trust the genius PhDs in positions of scientific authority? Why would you not? They're way smarter than you, I, or anyone else here. It's just dumb to not have faith in the consensus.
@@joshuapray I'm clever enough to not believe earth is flat! You flat earthers even think that when you open a can of soda, the gas pressure expands to fill the available space! Idiots. Everyone knows gravity holds the gas down inside the open can just like gravity holds the air we breathe down so it doesn't expand into space. Flat Earthers don't understand physics.
@dude3000 Good to see other smart people who know that science IS faith. Earth is a sphere because doctors know about broken legs. Globers 4 lyfe! Those idiot Flatt earthers are kindergarten drop-outs that don't have faith that's all. They're not scientifically literate enough to know that science is faith! It makes me feel smart when we call them names & talk about how they didn't graduate school & stuff. Keep it up Globers 4 lyfe, we'll get 'em
People say things like "around the city" or "around the country", without either cities or countries being spherical. People also say things like "oh my god" while being atheists. Figure of speech is less compelling than the random junk flat earthers call evidence.
@@JohnVJay Maybe she's on an expedition to the ice wall. I've heard that mobile phone reception isn't great there. Probably due to Illuminati signal jamming.
Maimonides died in 1204. In one of his books he describes those who believe the world is flat as "stubborn", and he says there is no point in talking to them because evidence will not convince them.
But if you use quantum theory, 2+2=5 is just as correct as 2+2=4, or 2+2= [thing]. The end result of 2+2 has the *potential* to be 4. But to realise that potential and confirm it's validity, the observer has to actually become part of the equation, thereby affecting the real-time applicable result by a factor of not less than one. There is no simple misunderstanding, unless you make it that way. With *Science* .
What I really want to know is: what possible motive could "they" have to lie about the shape of the Earth? A motive that is just as important today as it was in the days of Aristarchus, Eratosthenes, Posidonius and Hipparchus, all over the world?
Not to mention, all governments across the globe working together to maintain the lie, even in war time, even when they can't agree on pretty much anything else...
Ikr? Those personalized ads have gone too far. You cannot fall asleep and the algorithm recommends a video with Nicole, she's the ultimate cure for insomnia :D
10:57 Note, it's not "Academy of Science", it's the "Academy for Science". I'm wondering if the language has changed that much or if it was a competing society...
My very favorite Nicole clip is when she preached flat earth at an answering machine for a few minutes, then it responded "Sorry, I didn't catch that. Please press one to return to main menu . . .. "
I’ve watched hundreds of flerf videos and it still gives me a chuckle when one of them says “there’s absolutely no proof of a globe earth”. Like, even if there were a real debate, the idea of a globe is supposedly so ridiculous 😆
"It's quite crazy, I'll admit it". Good for you Nicole, admitting it is the first step to recovery! You're not to far over the edge, just take a step back and look at the curve.
"The ancients" Ah yes, the ancients from 100 years ago who were fighting in the first World War, driving tanks and firing automatic machine guns, driving cars and flying planes.
She missed on that first picture she showed that the line under the people and the continents is flat. Boom, the Earth must be flat!! This is literally how their brains work.
Flatheads cannot explain how everyone on earth sees the new and full moon at the same time when, according to the soggy beer mat model, that would be impossible. They also cannot explain the mechanism that continuously changes the path of the sun, changing it's position in the sky each day at the same time, the changes in sunrise and sunset, the change in seasons or why the sun never channges it's speed across the sky when, according to the doggy beer mat model it would have to travel through the sky much faster when it is summer in NZ and Australia compared to when it is summer in the UK.
The list of contradiction of flerfs is sooo long it is just incredible that they don't one day wonder how something that has more contradictions than believers could be true!
I’m sure there are a lot of things that aren’t true that a “lot of people couldn’t disprove”. Unfortunately for this lady for something to be proven untrue doesn’t need everyone to be able to prove it… just one person will suffice if their proof is sufficiently rigorous.
When asked to comment on this denunciation of relativity by so many scientists, Einstein replied " _To defeat relativity one did not need the word of 100 scientists, just one fact_ ". This is alleged BTW, very little proven source material on this quote.
@@drgleisner I thought the whole point about God for Christians is that there is no actual definitive “evidence”, which is why it’s called “faith” in the first place.
You can’t really prove that all spirit mediums are frauds. You can prove individual ones to be false, but that doesn’t necessarily prove all of them to be hoaxes. That doesn’t mean that I have to believe some spirit mediums are real.
Ya gotta love the argument "If the sun is big, then it would disprove the flat earth model, therefore the sun is not big. There, I proved the earth is flat".
It's interesting to see that, over 100 years ago, there were flat earthers completely misunderstanding science and using their misunderstanding as proof of a flat Earth. It's astounding that the guy believed he was the first person to discover that the moon isn't visible for a few days every month, and then he mistakes its 'disappearance' as a lunar eclipse rather than a cyclical phase. Not only that, but there were others around the same time that backed up his ignorance.
I'm not from the US but that has nothing to do with their education system. Only a minority of flat earthers are actually just dumb af. It's more about narcissism, mental illnesses and/or religion.
Unfortunately. It's on purpose, though. The elites want us stupid and placid to better control us. The best way to do that is to sabotage the public education system.
@@Furry-iousNews well the last president your country decided to elect was an antivaxer, Covid denier, climate change denier, communist hater. By the way why does everyone hate communism? They treat it as a terrorist organisation worse than Nazi’s! But honestly, who cares!!!??? Or rather, why care? It’s arguably no better or worse than capitalism or anything else. Why do Americans hate it?
The full title book that she held up is "The Enlightenment of the World: Proof that the Earth is Flat," by John George Abizaid. He was part of the "a lot of flat Earth talk [that] was going on in Boston, Massachusetts" (as the upper right hand corner of page 24 shown @9:25 indicates). Still, that book would probably be an ideal text book for those poor kids being taught flat Earth in the classrooms in Zion, Illinois.
Yes, Massachusetts, the second state to include civil marriage protection for same sex couples; the first to assure that same sex couples are protected by everything that civil marriage protects, and the state with the best state-run health insurance, in the United States. And yes, Boston, the home of Harvard University, the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, and a host of other places of higher learning that greatly outweighs the outliers that propose ridiculous ideas, such as the Earth being flat.
reminds me of a video by "spirit science": "according to this magazine article, the galaxy is three times as big as previously thought, and shaped like a Torus." he LINKS to the article, and not only does it NOT say "torus", it actually says "we thought it was 100,000 light-years across, but it's actually 150,000 light years across." so he thinks 100,000 times 3 is 150,000...
I think that's the first flat earth video I've seen with an actual proof in it! A proof for the fact that people were sharing that book over 100 years ago... but still a proof!
Nicely done as usual. I hope Nicole shows up. What I find frightening here is the implicit trust she places in this old bit of crackpottery, over what a very simple observation of the sky would show her to be what it is. Perhaps it's a natural consequence of spending more time watching displays than out in the real world.
Her monotone voice almost had me click off because I forgot what I was watching. Thank goodness you chimed in with your perfect commentary. I’ve always enjoyed your content and the way you break up the information with clips, comments, pictures, and sarcastic jabs. Forever a fan! Thank you!
I remember being a kid in like 2nd or 3rd grade and having that same thought of well isn’t it kinda an eclipse when we have a new moon.. then realizing it is but never once did that make me go huh the earth must be flat. But I love the idea of a book that’s over 100 years old and she thinks it has answers modern books have forbidden or something. God help her if she found a medical textbook from that age and decided that medicine is a conspiracy all we need is lobotomies and leeches.
The size of the light will never cover all of a ball in light... Part of the ball will always be in the shadow area of its self... How can one not realize a object will block light casting a shadow, and we call the shadow side of a planet "the night side"..... It is crazy to think that folks on a mass thought that if you sailed out of sight of land, you would fall off the face of the earth, and that was back in 1300's *sighs* and she thinks a book of 112 years old is old, LOL
What most flat earthers don't get is that any "flat" object has an opposite side. Given that premise, then what is on the "other side" that she mentions? What does THAT look like? And how would one get to it? One can't just go to the edge of the flat earth and look at the other side because (1) flat earthers believe one can't go beyond that edge and (2) if they could, what would provide them with something to stand/sit on? Or do they also believe that the "flatness" of the earth is so thin that one could look at the other side just by lying down at the edge and looking under the earth at whatever supports it. Let's face it. There has been more than one plane that started at a particular point on the earth, flown directly east (or west) and managed to return to the same location without at any time turning left or right. How does that happen on a flat earth? Amazing how the simplest realities of real world living seem to have no place in their imaginary world.
It's really quite puzzling that flerfs always use "Ancient knowledge" and do not consider that we have progressed in leaps and bounds (Well all of us except the Flerfs, space deniers, this list could actually include a good few groups) since that knowledge/understanding was first written. Absolutely great vid to start the day, thank you SciManDan, very best wishes to one and all 😀
Change and progress is irrelevant to flerfs. It's the same argument as saying smoking is healthy because doctors used to smoke in hospitals in the 30s.
Well, don´t foget large chunk on flath earthers are christians, who are from young age taught to believe in the fact that almost 2000 yo book contains the whole truth, that never changes, along with absolute trust in authorities. For them science, which constantly changes as new things are discovered, is something scary they can´t trust - who knows what they´ll tell us next week!
So I paused at 5:18 and it is fascinating to read that flerfs have not gotten any better at their arguments in 100 years. Or finding any proof for their claims.
The system of land division in western US & Canada is based on a globe and has correction lines for curvature within the Township system, right on the ground.
In fairness to Nicole, if she's reading a book that's 100 years old, that makes her about 2400 years more up to date with science than most flat earthers.
lol
She can *read*. Amazing 😂
Not really, as the little we see of the book shows that it was arrant nonsense even in 1910. No educated person would have taken it seriously even then.
lmao
Well played
When debunking something, I always refer to books written hundreds of years ago.
For example, I can absolutely confirm that trains cannot go over 25mph because instant death will result. Limbs will fly off, you may spontaneously combust or go insane if you go too fast. This is confirmed by a newspaper article I read from Victorian times and so must be 100% accurate.
Indeed, and according to newspapers from 1910, the Titanic is unsinkable.
@@cargy930 Spot on.
And please don't get me started on those 'infernal' combustion engines!
@@cargy930 HMS Titanic was being built at dry dock in 1910 so it was, indeed, "unsinkable".
@@-oiiio-3993 Haha, that's true! :D
But her older (near identical) sister, Olympic, _was_ launched in 1910.
The class of 3 ships was declared to be "unsinkable" by the various news articles at the time - simply because the reporters neglected to add the qualifier of "practically" in front of the word, and so created the myth.
I love the argument about the Sun. If the Sun is large then everyone would see it at the same time and at effectively the same angle. That's true - if the Earth is flat. As soon as the Earth is a sphere though, then the people on it are facing in different directions. We should congratulate her on picking an argument which highlights a flaw in the Flat Earth model.
That's false.
In both models - the standard heliocentric and the "flat earth, close sun" - people would see the sun at different angles. The reason why we cannot see the sun on our globe at all times is because for about half the time... THERE'S A HUGE FRIGGING BALL OF ROCK BETWEEN US AND THE SUN.
But Flerfs' understanding of that is... Dougalesque... "small - far away - small - far away". No, they don't get it either.
Of course, they came up with a rather good conjecture to explain it. In their world, the "object" blocking the view to the sun at night is the atmosphere (blasphemy, I know) itself. And they do have a point there. As much of a point as flerfs can have.
Visibility through the air is limited, due to light scattering and absorbtion.
How this effect would really look like, with correct data and formula... that's nothing they worry about. Numbers aren't static in Flerf-World... they are emotional factors. Still... it's a point.
But it's a point that made me think: if the light from the sun is reduced to almost nothing due to distance through the atmosphere... how could it be that the moon - which according to flerfism is the same size and distance as the sun, but send out a lot less light - is visible under the same conditions to the same distance?
I would like to see which explanations the flerfs could come up with for that. They can, certainly. You can always find an explanation when all your explanations are made up. I know that I "found" an explanation after just two minutes.
Still... would be interesting to see if they even understood the problem.
"If the sun is large" yes it is but it is also faaaaaaaaaaaaar away
@@danquaylesitsspeltpotatoe8307 If you want a good laugh go look at some comments from a Kent Hovind video. He is a crazy person.
@@danquaylesitsspeltpotatoe8307 Fair enough.
Which model?😅
"No evidence for a round earth"
Erastathenes proved it with a couple of sticks over 2200 years ago
Dock workers observed this for thousands of years seeing ships disappear bottom up over the horizons
They also observed this in the fact the curve of the earth obscures islands at great distances.
The curve can be viewed with sufficient altitude.
Photographs from space have been taken of the earth, including one from the moon.
Things traveling sufficient distances must take coriolis into account
If you travel east and maintain your heading perfectly, you'll come right back to where you started.
Motion of the planets in our sky only makes sense with a heliocentric model
Rotation of the stars in the night sky is visible with timelapse lenses and only makes sense on a spinning ball
The arc of the sun's motion over the sky over the course of a year only makes sense on a spinning ball.
Gravity would destroy a flat earth, as those on the edge of the disk would be pulled to the center, but gravity would easily create spherical planets, we understand this easily with modern physics (this is why flerfers are so insistent to try to debunk gravity)
I could continue Nicole.
You must be out of breath from running circles around them logically. Well done.
also in their model THE SUN COULD NOT SET, like that is a pretty big problem
It is amazing how people at as if there is 'no proof to the alternative' when real life is filled with examples of the contrary.
No. Erastathenes did NOT prove a globe. He already knew it was and devised a method to get a good estimate just how big it is . He calculated the circumference of the already known globe. Ancients were not stupid.
"All lies." is what they say.
I'm amazed that she's citing lunar eclipses, one of the things that should be impossible on a flat Earth, as proof of a flat Earth.
Why?
@@erict.watson2460 Because a lunar eclipse is when the Moon moves into Earth's shadow. Kinda hard to manage that on a flat Earth, especially since most flerthers think the moon and sun move in a circuit over the Earth.
@@whiterabbit75.... you're missing the point - she's a flat-earther; my question was about your amazement, not the nonsense spouted.
@@erict.watson2460 Fair enough. I guess I still have some hope left for humanity. I'll be sure to hunt that down and kill it by watching some TikToks.
@@erict.watson2460 Maybe try using a complete sentence? Such as: "Why are you so amazed?"
I can block the sun with an umbrella.
Hence proved: The sun is smaller than my umbrella.
You know, I’m somewhat of a scientist myself.
OMG the sun is actually smaller than my hand too. Oh the deception.
OMG you should write a book! She'd buy it 😁
I took a quarter held it between my thumb and index finger with my arm straight out and with one eye closed and looking at the quarter with the other eye could barely see the sun. Since we know umbrellas are much larger than quarters I can back up your scientific findings.
FAKE!!!1!11!! Everyone knows umbrellas are for rain!!!!111!!
@@romeowhiskey2759 Sun is smaller than my eyelids. Everything is smaller than my eyelids. I'm a giant! But I am smaller than my own eyelids as well.
She definitely proved it. And by "it" I mean the fact that there have always been a tiny minority of idiots more than happy to put their ignorance on display in the public forum.
Thank you for saving me the time to make that exact point.
Since grammar and spelling error are under higher scrutiny when arguing against crazy people, I thought I'd arm you with this knowledge:
"proved" isn't a real word. The correct way to say this is "She's definitely proven it."
Have a good day.
@@Alice_Fumo Correction, “Proved” is a past participle and also the past tense of prove. Both “Proved” and “Proven” are considered correct, however most literary instructors advise using “Proved”.
@@Alice_Fumo - According to Oxford:
Prove verb forms:
present simple I / you / we / they prove
/pruːv/
/pruːv/
he / she / it proves
/pruːvz/
/pruːvz/
past simple proved
/pruːvd/
/pruːvd/
past participle proved
/pruːvd/
/pruːvd/
As grammar nazis are under even more stringent scrutiny, it's important to check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.
@@ArcadiaVibe Seems you're right. I've rarely ever seen the word proved before, though. Apparently proven is generally used in American English whilst proved is more of an England thing. At least if I'm to trust the resource I just read about this.
Thanks for letting me know either way.
For the "Do Your Own Research!" crew:
JOHN G. ABIZAID's highest level of education was four years of high school. In the 1910 and 1920 US Census, he's listed as the owner of a razor manufacturing shop. He must have lost his business though because in the 1930 and 1940 Census he's working in a leather goods factory. No scientific background.
AURIN F. HILL, an avid diarist who nicknamed HIMSELF "the insane architect" was committed to an insane asylum twice, spent time in jail and practiced as a spiritual medium, phrenologist and union activist during his life. He was known as a contrarian and purposefully picketed against popular ideas. He protested lynching. He also protested vaccinations. His motto was, "I am my own God until I find a better man."
WILLIAM J. HUTCHINSON, well...like SciMan, I can't find him anywhere. It was a common name and without knowing more, it would be difficult to pinpoint him further but Mr. Hutchinson may be found a liar in other ways. A simple spelling error, maybe, but he wrote from the Academy of Science† when in fact it is the Academy of Sciences, plural. And the only meaningful acronym I could find for someone who would title themselves AFC from an Academy of Sciences would be "Application for Certification" meaning they have applied and are awaiting certification. Seems a bit presumptuous to write on behalf of a group you are not formally a member of.
Sources matter.
† EDIT: Guido Makor made an excellent observation I had previously missed. It actually says Academy FOR Science, not OF. So either Mr. Hutchinson REALLY made a spelling error or he made up an organization similar to a real and respected organization to sound smart and added some letters to his name that don't mean anything. What a goober to pick AFC though. **facepalm**
Excellent work!
SciManDan should pin this at the top, everyone needs to see your excellent research. The dim flerfer girl needs to see it as well, she obviously hasn't done any research herself, as per normal for flerfs.
The newspaper article she posts says he is a « self-styled natural philosopher « . It also gives his adress: 3 Malden Street South End. Might try to look it up!
a flat earther is an antivaxxer. why am I not surprised?
@@Leo-wk7yw Thank you. It took about an hour. More time than she spent trying to understand where this book came from. Well worth the time, in my opinion.
People should be so glad I don’t practice dentistry from text books written over 100 years ago. I would not have any patients return.
Flat Earther: "Do your own research"
Me: "I have"
Flat Earther:"Make sure you use 100 year old books"
"book from 100 years ago". I suppose for her that counts as ancient knowledge.
or, conversely, for a flat earther that's like cutting-edge recent.
@@TalonBrush Ofc that's cutting edge. Previous one was written over 2000 years ago, and it's still relevant for them! Hundred years ago is like ... yestrday. It's so fresh, you can almost smell the new print.
lol I kept thinking that I wonder what she would think if her medical doctor pulled out a book full of quackery from back then to treat an illness.
@@thisisme2681 I can imagine her reaction if she visited doctor complaining of a tummy ache and he proceeded to drain a pint of blood out of her by cutting her wrist and prescribing a copper bracelet.
Quantum physics is 100 years old by now. Let that sink in.
It just shows that flat earthers haven't got any brighter after 112 years.
I don't know - the book didn't have the slightest idea that a round earth means people face different directions. Today's flat earthers know that, so they have to make their model much stupider with their lampshade circling sun
@@muskyoxes the book literally assumed a spherical earth would be a coin shaped earth 💀
Most of todays Flat Earthers are even dumber
Might it have something to do with being "dull"-witted to begin with?
And remember, schools "educate" these people, keep promoting schools, gonna be nothing but protestors, flat earthers, and never asking questions and do nothing but follow the pack
Holy crap... RUclips actually recommended me with a video I haven't seen yet... Something is currently BADLY wrong with the "algorithm"... Thanks Dan :)
For the last seven years I've been recommended a Tom Scott video I watched seven years ago.
I know right! 😮
I've refreshed home like 20 times and get the same stuff every time every day. I might rewatch that video sometime, but it's unlikely i want to watch an snl sketch 5 minutes after I watched it the first time. But youtube will avoid new videos by people I want to see stuff from.
What's badly wrong with the algorithm is that it _exists at all._ That shit is killing us, and I'm not exaggerating. Algorithms push outrage and nonsense because they value engagement, not truth, and look where it's gotten us.
"There be monsters here." I can't wait for her to look at more old geography books and maps.
The only evidence this book provides is that there were people who didn't understand basic, _basic_ geometry 110 years ago either.
So one hundred years ago, people were making astronomical models contradicted by even casual observations as well.
Using the flag of a country that was discovered while trying to circumnavigating the globe to find a route to India, is a big brain move... i agree :D
"I've never been anywhere or done anything interesting but I know EXACTLY how the universe works because this old book which is very convincing because it makes sense that the ancients know more than us tells me that I don't need stupid 'science' to know exactly how everything works."
Now hold still as I shock you to cure your heartburn and prescribe a healthy dose of radium.
Perfect translation.
Her video can be summed up with her own words at 11:57 : "I never thought."
Yep. Convinced me 🤣🤣
I think she was seduced by the mustache dude. She so was impresed about how big it was ... I'm telling you, a big mustache and girls will find you irresistable. It's science boys!
Hi Dan. I really really, very very wish I were a flat-earther, still in my forties, and a multimillionaire. Why?
I would fund an expedition to the Ice Wall. The purpose of the expedition would be to scale the Ice Wall (live streaming most of the time) and then see what’s beyond. What would I be hoping to find? What would be my obsession? To see what’s underneath. Is there a plughole? If we pull the plug out, can we drain the ocean and find all the sunken ships? Why won’t any of these flat-earthers fund an expedition to the Ice Wall?
Because it's off limits. How convenient.
@@terranceparsons5185 And there has never been an expedition to prove the Ice Wall is off limits. How convenient. Put up or shut up.
@@BoilerRoom4 what would you like me to put up before I shut up? Are you perhaps confusing me with one of those stone age thinkers who belive in all that flat earth boll8cks? Ice wall, 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Imagine reading this book when it came out, when all you could have as evidence of the contrary was the words of another book and some easy tests you could do yourself... A few people could fall for it sure... Now imagine reading that same book, in an age where we literally have satellites orbiting the planet, the ability to see pictures taken from space from a portable computer in your pocket with all humanity's knowledge at a fingertip, a space station, plans to go to Mars, and still believing it
Finally, Nicole has given us a proof that no 'globe earth believer' can debunk.
Unfortunately for her, that proof is that there were idiots before the world wide web was a thing. Who'd have thought.
But in those times somebody had to write the book, you had to buy the book and read the whole book. Nowadays, the bullsh..t comes into the house absolutely free. And you don't even have to read anymore, you can just watch a video. Hasn't mankind evolved?
Actually its been more common for the bulk of humanity to believe complete garbage than believe actual facts for most of written history.
Never forget that most of the worlds religions controlled education and writing for most of the entire written history of humanity. Its way too hard to argue with educated people and far easier to get uneducated people to go to war.
@@Achie79
Lol, I wish. JK
We have yes but sometimes it looks like we haven't yet. 😅
@@Achie79 This is true, and presumably even in 1910 the book had to be pitched to a publisher, edited, proofread and printed yet it still made it to the book stands. Interesting how we have come so far, as you rightly point out, by removing those filters.
@@tonywilson4713 Yes, that’s exactly what my astrologer was just telling me. Touch wood, we don’t believe the nonsense the people in the olden days did.
Plenty of Flat Earthers have shown proof...of a Globe Earth.
Thanks Bob...
Interesting...
15 degrees
If they could interpret their own experiments correctly, they wouldn't be Flat Earthers! Just stating the obvious!
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“People were sharing flat earth with people that they knew, sharing it around the world…” -Nicole
And she even said "around the world" with no hint of irony in her voice! That was amazing.
Came here for this exact comment.
You can’t make this stuff up.
@@arinerm1331 yup, it's *across the world, because around would imply a curve, which we all know doesn't exist and thw moon is made of cheese
@@nodramalama9531 Absolutely the moon is made of cheese! I learned that from Wallace & Gromit 25 years ago.
@@nodramalama9531 made of cheese XD
I want her to read other science books from 100 years ago. Imagine the horror about surgeries.
Those were exciting times, special relativity discovered and quantum theory getting started.
I love how she says "if the sun was big you could simultaneously see it from everywhere on Earth" while ignoring that a flat Earth is where that would happen
“If the sun was bigger everyone on Earth would see it, like a giant umbrella,” is something I’d expect to hear from a 3-year-old.
They do seem to have the same sense of distance and scale. And the same inability to think in three dimensions
You're just a big meanie poopy pants.!
It's sad to watch when young people really believe that they will "help" when spreading the nonsense of flat earth.
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@@loturzelrestaurant Sadly, "clearly fixable" is very optimistic.
Yes, if people all over the world would change their behaviour now drastically. But let's be honest, none of this is currently really happening. And humanity only makes it worse with all their petty infighting instead of getting together and solving real problems to make life better for everyone.
@@ronik24 HENCE why i commented not the 'pessimistic false idea' but the 'actually, real, actual idea' of it being fixable still.
This generation (for very, very good reasons) has a rather dark outlook on the future and that's exactly why it should be noted: No, it's not "too late":
No Scientist ever said "Were all doomed! Ahhhhhhh!"
Actually, it's fixable still. We're not on the point of 'No-Return' at all, in fact.
@@ronik24 ANYWAY: If Doomsday is Tomorrow, i would literally still watch Hbomberguys video about Climate-Change because of the amazing humor anyway.
So that's the Top-Strategy either way anyway.
@@ronik24 Why do you type "their" when referring to actions of humanity?
The correct pronoun is "our".
The newspaper article had a sentence "self styled natural philosopher". Anyone else recon this means "whackadoodle with no qualifications other than those he gave himself"?
Nice to hear the return of the yodelling 😁👍
The reporter probably spent the entire interview trying not to laugh.
We got one of those whackadoodles today. His name is kyle adams.
@@mjjoe76 Most likely unsuccessfully.
It was pretty amusing that a “Screw Fix” advert appeared half way through your Yodelling 😂😂😂
1910. Mauritania and Lusitania were making regular transatlantic crossings when this book was published. Olympic and Titanic were in planning or early construction. Also "King Edward's on the throne and it's the age of men." (according to Mr. Banks. 😉) Old books are fascinating even if the information is out-of-date. I love to look and see what words and phrases are used that have long since gone out of fashion.
I almost fell asleep listening to her read that article. It's rather a talent to make a conspiracy sound boring
Agreed. Her voice is as dull as she is.
Her voice rarely changes from the regional pitch, it's nasal and has zero variance even when she's making questions or the like. It's a robot.
i had to rewatch most of it 5 times, my mind was just like nope!
Damn I was wondering what was wrong with me today. I hear her but it is not getting in my head. And then Dan asks a question and I am like sorry no clue what kind of BS she just said.
She has had a successful charisma bypass operation. Very, very successful.
dan: "written in 1910"
me: "lol imagine citing a 90 year old science book"
dan: "112 years ago"
me: "fuck..."
and your comment score is 3.1415
have a nice day
Dan has been working on this video a long time.
@@ziploc2000 ?
I know...anything that happened after 1990 was just yesterday...
@@AngieDeAguirre It's taken 22 years...
This might be the least passionate flat earther RUclipsr that I've ever seen. The pure mono-tonal monotonous reading of those excerpts nearly put me to sleep.
The parts she read in monotone were the only parts that made sense
Well, the voice of holocaust-denier Eric Dubay is also monotonous and boring. Which is intentional, it is important that the 200 proofs are 2 hours long and repetitive, so you lose attention to look at the individual proofs. I downloaded the 72-page pamphlet to be able to comment on it and it was apparent immediately it is all repetitive gibberish.
@@feedingravens You are right about Erics voice and all those monotonous parts are also the only things that make sense lmao {The holocaust denier part was a nice touch, made me laugh. :) just like all flat earthers}
A monotonous monotony? For shame!
@@immersiveirl6638 “Wounds my heart with a monotonous languor…”
It's kind of creepy to see that flat earthers (arguments and even their conversations between each other) haven't changed appreciably in over 100 years.
"Share it with people AROUND THE WORLD."
Around the world.
What I find the most interesting about this is that styalistically, flat earthers haven't changed much in the past 100+ years. (They also haven't learned much in the same time period)
It's striking that the arguments and "evidence" hasn't advanced, and that after all this time there still isn't a working demonstration of the flat earth.....
Wonder why that is
Another proof against evolution!:)
I wonder how she would feel about that Aurin Hill letter of she knew more about him. He was a noted former athiest turned spiritualist, socialist that helped found a union, thought women had "as much right to share their secrets as cats and dogs". Was forcibly placed in asylums twice.
A wonderful quote of his. "A young girl dressed in white threw glances of regard at me even when young men about her age was near her. She had freckles on her face, but she had clear eyes and a clean skin. Something comes and tells me she was the she God of flies as the Great Spirit of flies claims those people who have freckles on their faces as belonging to the Fly kingdom of animal existence on this earth."
That is a great achievement to found a union and great courage to be a socialist. Shame they had to go full mental with the spiritual theist god bullshit.
If we debunk something, let's not make mistakes ourselves. Being placed in asylum in the late XIX/early XX century is a bad argument.
I wrote a book. It's called The Earth is Shaped Like a Pretzel. It has one chapter called The Earth is Shaped Like a Pretzel. Therefore the Earth is-- Well, you get my pretzel.
In about 100 years you will be known as the creator of the Pretzel Earth society
Well done! Does it have pictures?
@@Cecily-Pimprenelle It does! Of pretzels.
@@roellemaire1979 Bought the domain name already, setting up the home page now.
That goes totally against my Bagel Earth claims.
the yodelling while showing clips that prove them wrong or giving them pictures of what they say is impossible always makes me smile ☺
If the world is 71% water and that water isn’t carbonated… Doesn’t that mean its flat?
"I was lied to." You sure were, the earth isn't flat. The end.
Again with the 'We're being lied to' Yes, you are. By flat earthers.
The greatest lie ever told. The globe. The purpose of the lie...... 🤔
Why are being lied to again?
Not all Flat Earthers are lying. Some of them are telling the truth.
Will they have proof, or will it be the same rubbish they're always peddling?
The suspense is killing me, mate!
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Fixable sure but it's not going to go away easy and never in a complete sense sadly.
@@guytheincognito4186 Yep.
It gets me literally every time, and every time I’m almost reduced to yelling at whatever screen I happen to be watching when I hear someone say “they say the earth is round but there’s *_no proof of that whatsoever. It’s ridiculous_* “. I mean, do you honestly just have no comprehension of what the word _proof_ means? The tendency of these people to equate their failure to comprehend the mountain of proof with there being no proof will never stop agitating me to the core. Maybe if they amended it a bit…. “There’s no proof of that whatsoever, except the endless amount of proof that we don’t like, or that we personally can’t make sense of. I mean, if you don’t count all of that then there’s no proof.”
I think it's common to every conspiracy theorists* and I guess it comes from narcissist traits. Proof=argument that would prove (!)me(!) a statement. If we wouldn't pay attention to that "me" part, it sounds closer to "argument that proves statement" that "argument I would agree with" - the latter being close equivalent while the first simply sounds close. And I think it's a successful tool of manipulation their own people because they don't care about details/the point, just about the look/the sound of their ramblings, i.e. it's supposed to sound scientific and nobody cares about the merit. The other sentence that follows this rule would be "we can all agree that the Earth is flat" vs. "the Earth is flat". Because we can agree to anything (1st), but it doesn't make it real (2nd) - it sounds close, tho.
* I know there were conspiracy theories that were proven to be true, mainly in political field, but I think there's a big difference in people questioning things because certain inconsistencies/doubts vs. people who think they know for sure something's a lie despite a number of proofs they are wrong
I follow Dan because he's always on the side of scientific authority without exception. And that makes me feel smart for trusting scientific authority all these years when he mocks anyone who didn't do the same. They don't understand science actually IS faith. It really is. It's about having faith in the genius PhDs and their consensus. So "science" actually means trusting the current consensus sort of like a religious text & then defending it from lunatic, crazy conspiracy theorists who don't understand science actually IS faith.
And just because we don't always have evidence to show we've been right all along to believe the consensus like a sacred text doesn't mean they have the right to just question whatever they want. It's obnoxious, who do they think they are questioning genius PhDs in positions of scientific authority? It would be like an Atheist questioning or doubting what their priests say. They wouldn't like that either. I mean, obviously we do that all the time, but that doesn't mean they can question OUR priests & get away with it.
I've started chanting "Earth is not flat. Earth is not flat. Earth is not flat. Earth is not flat" right over flat earther arguments when I debate them and it helps.
Mainly I follow Dan because I like the mocking & ridiculing of the crazy conspiracy theorists who, frankly, have no right to be questioning my pre-existing beliefs like that. It makes us good people who know science IS faith lack confidence and makes me angry. No one likes having their beliefs questioned like that. So I come here and watch Dan call them names and I feel better about my faith.
Yawn.
@@joshuapray You don't trust the genius PhDs in positions of scientific authority? Why would you not? They're way smarter than you, I, or anyone else here. It's just dumb to not have faith in the consensus.
@@lightbeforethetunnel Liking your own comments is a bad look, mate. Also: Sigh. You do think you're a clever one, don't you...
@@joshuapray I'm clever enough to not believe earth is flat! You flat earthers even think that when you open a can of soda, the gas pressure expands to fill the available space! Idiots. Everyone knows gravity holds the gas down inside the open can just like gravity holds the air we breathe down so it doesn't expand into space. Flat Earthers don't understand physics.
@dude3000 Good to see other smart people who know that science IS faith. Earth is a sphere because doctors know about broken legs. Globers 4 lyfe!
Those idiot Flatt earthers are kindergarten drop-outs that don't have faith that's all. They're not scientifically literate enough to know that science is faith!
It makes me feel smart when we call them names & talk about how they didn't graduate school & stuff. Keep it up Globers 4 lyfe, we'll get 'em
‘I can’t believe some people are so incredibly Dumb’
Me, 2022.
-Ass 2022
The great Ass has spoken.
@@justmehere_ missed opportunity. I regret everything. Haha:p.
“This is proof that people were sharing the flat earth with people they knew, sharing it AROUND the world” - Nicole coté 2022
A flat disc is still round though...
@@homerj.simpson7562 but then you don't share "around", but rather radially outwards?
People say things like "around the city" or "around the country", without either cities or countries being spherical. People also say things like "oh my god" while being atheists.
Figure of speech is less compelling than the random junk flat earthers call evidence.
@@hartmutholzgraefe That sounds like quite a mouthful.
@@hartmutholzgraefe it’s ‘hubwards’ or ‘spinwards’ according to the late great Sir Terry Pratchett…
Forgot she even existed!! Bloody hell. I'm sure I've seen her popping up in much older debunking videos a while back
She was in one of Tau Ceti Alphas' videos
@@JohnVJay Maybe she's on an expedition to the ice wall. I've heard that mobile phone reception isn't great there. Probably due to Illuminati signal jamming.
@@JohnVJay oh good maybe she came to her senses
What I find hilarious is that she picks outdated science verses modern updated science. 😂
Maimonides died in 1204.
In one of his books he describes those who believe the world is flat as "stubborn", and he says there is no point in talking to them because evidence will not convince them.
I always love how their entire premise is derived from a simple misunderstanding; such as 2+2=5
UPDATE YOUR MATH!
2+2=4.4
don't forget 5/0=5
But if you use quantum theory, 2+2=5 is just as correct as 2+2=4, or 2+2= [thing]. The end result of 2+2 has the *potential* to be 4. But to realise that potential and confirm it's validity, the observer has to actually become part of the equation, thereby affecting the real-time applicable result by a factor of not less than one. There is no simple misunderstanding, unless you make it that way. With *Science* .
What I really want to know is: what possible motive could "they" have to lie about the shape of the Earth? A motive that is just as important today as it was in the days of Aristarchus, Eratosthenes, Posidonius and Hipparchus, all over the world?
11:48: ?????
That Statistic seemed to me like showing NASA had a massssive Breaktdown
in Popularity?!?
!
Not to mention, all governments across the globe working together to maintain the lie, even in war time, even when they can't agree on pretty much anything else...
@@AxeGaijin Or in peaqce-time, where they cant agree on anything.
@@AxeGaijin But hey, at least it gives us all amazing fun-content to watch. Not just Dan but Creaky, Hbomberguy, Some More News, Emma Thorne, ect.
apparently it's to sell (inaccurate) maps which somehow makes people easier to control
Wow being unable to sleep got me an early Flat Earth Friday.
ditto!!
Couldn't even dream of it!
Ikr? Those personalized ads have gone too far. You cannot fall asleep and the algorithm recommends a video with Nicole, she's the ultimate cure for insomnia :D
10:57 Note, it's not "Academy of Science", it's the "Academy for Science". I'm wondering if the language has changed that much or if it was a competing society...
I figured it was the latter. Using a similar name to confuse people and create an appearance of legitimacy.
Also the acronym for it is AFC. I wasn’t aware “Science” started with a “C”…
Why is it that these people all believe in "dark bodies" that no-one has ever observed but deny the existence of planets which anyone can observe?
They never address why we never see black circular patches in the sky at any other time.
My very favorite Nicole clip is when she preached flat earth at an answering machine for a few minutes, then it responded "Sorry, I didn't catch that. Please press one to return to main menu . . .. "
Lol that so funny.
You know they aren't very convincing when they can't even get an answering machine to listen.
@@Llortnerof I wish I could give more than one thumbs up for that, it did make me chuckle!
@@kevinmould6979 This thumbs-up is also for Llortnerof.
This is Siri. I don’t understand. Are you looking for pizza in your neighbourhood?
I’ve watched hundreds of flerf videos and it still gives me a chuckle when one of them says “there’s absolutely no proof of a globe earth”. Like, even if there were a real debate, the idea of a globe is supposedly so ridiculous 😆
I wouldn't want to give them any views unless I really really really have to. 😏
@@hreaper well to be honest 99% are debunk videos
Of course, flerfs have seen no proof of "globe earth" whatsoever. It is actually a fancy way of admitting they refuse to accept reality.
"Absolutely no proof" translated from Flerf means "I don't want to believe it".
@@barrylangille3523 or I don't understand it
"It's quite crazy, I'll admit it".
Good for you Nicole, admitting it is the first step to recovery! You're not to far over the edge, just take a step back and look at the curve.
a quote in a book comes to mind, i think it's originally from a Shakespeare play:
"full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."
11:28 I like how she says "share it AROUND the world"🤣
"The ancients" Ah yes, the ancients from 100 years ago who were fighting in the first World War, driving tanks and firing automatic machine guns, driving cars and flying planes.
World War One had not yet started in 1910. Try 1914.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Some of them are still alive today!
@@tommydugas1125 I don't think so. I'm pretty sure the last living combatant in WW1 died in the mid 2010s.
@@ale6o WW2 vets are fast disappearing.
I'm shocked that only SciManDan notifications come when the video is uploaded. Most likely due to being a religious watcher since the channel began
"Could this person prove flat earth, or will it fall flat"
A missed opportunity there
Wow, it's been a long time since you used the Price is Right "Cliffhangers" version of that yodeling song.
Arg, You tube stuffed an advert in the middle of the round earth proof montage. Was enjoying that. Gutted.😉
The Jodler is back! 💕💕💕 😍 My german heart is melting!
"This book was published in 1910" - so at least 200 years after anyone had the slightest excuse for thinking the earth is flat
She missed on that first picture she showed that the line under the people and the continents is flat. Boom, the Earth must be flat!!
This is literally how their brains work.
But the sun encircles the earth. So sun goes behind the earth at some time? We know for a fact that at any time the sun is visible from somewhere.
I had high tech shoes made with 90% carbon fiber.
_I now have the most intense carbon footprint possible!_
Flatheads cannot explain how everyone on earth sees the new and full moon at the same time when, according to the soggy beer mat model, that would be impossible. They also cannot explain the mechanism that continuously changes the path of the sun, changing it's position in the sky each day at the same time, the changes in sunrise and sunset, the change in seasons or why the sun never channges it's speed across the sky when, according to the doggy beer mat model it would have to travel through the sky much faster when it is summer in NZ and Australia compared to when it is summer in the UK.
The list of contradiction of flerfs is sooo long it is just incredible that they don't one day wonder how something that has more contradictions than believers could be true!
I like 'sun is smaller than the earth'. It reminds me of of Father Ted trying to explain to Dougal 'small .... far away' !
I’m sure there are a lot of things that aren’t true that a “lot of people couldn’t disprove”. Unfortunately for this lady for something to be proven untrue doesn’t need everyone to be able to prove it… just one person will suffice if their proof is sufficiently rigorous.
True. Same for god: all I need is one piece of sufficient evidence.
When asked to comment on this denunciation of relativity by so many scientists, Einstein replied " _To defeat relativity one did not need the word of 100 scientists, just one fact_ ". This is alleged BTW, very little proven source material on this quote.
@@drgleisner I thought the whole point about God for Christians is that there is no actual definitive “evidence”, which is why it’s called “faith” in the first place.
@@davidburke2132
They usually want to have their cake and eat it at the same time them.
You can’t really prove that all spirit mediums are frauds. You can prove individual ones to be false, but that doesn’t necessarily prove all of them to be hoaxes. That doesn’t mean that I have to believe some spirit mediums are real.
11:25 - sharing flat Earth around the world. Oh, the irony!
For them around means around the disc.... but yeah stupid
Ohh... so cyclic.
Ya gotta love the argument "If the sun is big, then it would disprove the flat earth model, therefore the sun is not big. There, I proved the earth is flat".
It's interesting to see that, over 100 years ago, there were flat earthers completely misunderstanding science and using their misunderstanding as proof of a flat Earth. It's astounding that the guy believed he was the first person to discover that the moon isn't visible for a few days every month, and then he mistakes its 'disappearance' as a lunar eclipse rather than a cyclical phase. Not only that, but there were others around the same time that backed up his ignorance.
The results of the American education system at its finest 😂
I'm not from the US but that has nothing to do with their education system. Only a minority of flat earthers are actually just dumb af. It's more about narcissism, mental illnesses and/or religion.
Unfortunately. It's on purpose, though. The elites want us stupid and placid to better control us. The best way to do that is to sabotage the public education system.
Burn lol
Im American, our country isn't doing great what with all these anti science political types
@@Furry-iousNews well the last president your country decided to elect was an antivaxer, Covid denier, climate change denier, communist hater.
By the way why does everyone hate communism? They treat it as a terrorist organisation worse than Nazi’s! But honestly, who cares!!!??? Or rather, why care? It’s arguably no better or worse than capitalism or anything else. Why do Americans hate it?
The full title book that she held up is "The Enlightenment of the World: Proof that the Earth is Flat," by John George Abizaid. He was part of the "a lot of flat Earth talk [that] was going on in Boston, Massachusetts" (as the upper right hand corner of page 24 shown @9:25 indicates). Still, that book would probably be an ideal text book for those poor kids being taught flat Earth in the classrooms in Zion, Illinois.
BOSTON SAYS IT ALL..
THE STATE OF MASSOFTWOSHITS.
I know, we can go to playgrounds and schools to throw these books at kids while yelling the erf is flat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!🥞
@@Pobodies_Nerfect da erf is flat 🤣
Are you referring to Wilburn Glenn Voliva?
Yes, Massachusetts, the second state to include civil marriage protection for same sex couples; the first to assure that same sex couples are protected by everything that civil marriage protects, and the state with the best state-run health insurance, in the United States.
And yes, Boston, the home of Harvard University, the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, and a host of other places of higher learning that greatly outweighs the outliers that propose ridiculous ideas, such as the Earth being flat.
1932 was a 100 years ago?
She fails on basic math.
Surprise!
reminds me of a video by "spirit science":
"according to this magazine article, the galaxy is three times as big as previously thought, and shaped like a Torus."
he LINKS to the article, and not only does it NOT say "torus", it actually says "we thought it was 100,000 light-years across, but it's actually 150,000 light years across."
so he thinks 100,000 times 3 is 150,000...
I love how these people can see 100 proof and they just say those are fake. But then they found 1 lunatic writing and they are this is the truth.
Gotta love the yodelling proof montage. I feel like we didn't see it in a while.
It's sad how delusional these people are. Like they're desperate to know something most people don't. That's why they draw such crazy conclusions.
I think that's the first flat earth video I've seen with an actual proof in it!
A proof for the fact that people were sharing that book over 100 years ago... but still a proof!
Nicely done as usual. I hope Nicole shows up.
What I find frightening here is the implicit trust she places in this old bit of crackpottery, over what a very simple observation of the sky would show her to be what it is. Perhaps it's a natural consequence of spending more time watching displays than out in the real world.
Thanks for the Yodle dan, I didn't realize I was missing it. ;)
Her monotone voice almost had me click off because I forgot what I was watching. Thank goodness you chimed in with your perfect commentary. I’ve always enjoyed your content and the way you break up the information with clips, comments, pictures, and sarcastic jabs. Forever a fan! Thank you!
I remember being a kid in like 2nd or 3rd grade and having that same thought of well isn’t it kinda an eclipse when we have a new moon.. then realizing it is but never once did that make me go huh the earth must be flat. But I love the idea of a book that’s over 100 years old and she thinks it has answers modern books have forbidden or something. God help her if she found a medical textbook from that age and decided that medicine is a conspiracy all we need is lobotomies and leeches.
But new moons have nothing to do with exlipses
@@nodramalama9531 was supposed to say “it isn’t”
I have a hundred(ish) year old medical text that provides an address to send a dog's brain to be tested for rabies.
@@mattjohns3394 lol I’d love to know what that address is now and if they still have a bunch of rabid dog brains stored there
actually leeches are making a come back, there is a legit leech Therapy backed by real science now, maggots too, lobotomies not so much.
Imagine having to cherry pick a book from 1910 to make your point...
Share it "just like they did a hundred years ago", through Twitter and Facebook.
The size of the light will never cover all of a ball in light... Part of the ball will always be in the shadow area of its self... How can one not realize a object will block light casting a shadow, and we call the shadow side of a planet "the night side"..... It is crazy to think that folks on a mass thought that if you sailed out of sight of land, you would fall off the face of the earth, and that was back in 1300's *sighs* and she thinks a book of 112 years old is old, LOL
What most flat earthers don't get is that any "flat" object has an opposite side. Given that premise, then what is on the "other side" that she mentions? What does THAT look like? And how would one get to it? One can't just go to the edge of the flat earth and look at the other side because (1) flat earthers believe one can't go beyond that edge and (2) if they could, what would provide them with something to stand/sit on? Or do they also believe that the "flatness" of the earth is so thin that one could look at the other side just by lying down at the edge and looking under the earth at whatever supports it.
Let's face it. There has been more than one plane that started at a particular point on the earth, flown directly east (or west) and managed to return to the same location without at any time turning left or right. How does that happen on a flat earth?
Amazing how the simplest realities of real world living seem to have no place in their imaginary world.
This seems like the kind of person I'd get fooled into talking to at a party
My God. Do You have no self-respect?
You don't plan your excuse for suddenly having to end the conversation beforehand? N00b… 😉
Put the beer goggles away mate
She would be talking at you not with you, in that dreary monotone. Just hope there's plenty to drink. Crunching crisps would sound more interesting.
@@missharry5727 that’s the problem with beer goggles. They also dampen out boring conversations :(
It's really quite puzzling that flerfs always use "Ancient knowledge" and do not consider that we have progressed in leaps and bounds (Well all of us except the Flerfs, space deniers, this list could actually include a good few groups) since that knowledge/understanding was first written. Absolutely great vid to start the day, thank you SciManDan, very best wishes to one and all 😀
Change and progress is irrelevant to flerfs.
It's the same argument as saying smoking is healthy because doctors used to smoke in hospitals in the 30s.
11:48: ?????
That Statistic seemed to me like showing NASA had a massssive Breaktdown
in Popularity?!?
Well, don´t foget large chunk on flath earthers are christians, who are from young age taught to believe in the fact that almost 2000 yo book contains the whole truth, that never changes, along with absolute trust in authorities. For them science, which constantly changes as new things are discovered, is something scary they can´t trust - who knows what they´ll tell us next week!
Don't forget geocentritards, YECtards and other religiotards, anti-vaxxers and whatever reality deniers are out there.
@@loturzelrestaurant No, NASA is fairly steady, with a few peaks when they were in the news, while "flat earth" actually saw a decline.
Watching HOUSE re-runs at 3 50 a.m. and Dan comes on to remind me it's tomorrow already.
Hbomberguy.
He made the bestest-ever Climate-Video.
@@loturzelrestaurant lol what?
So her flat earth 'proof' boils down to 'over 100 years ago some bloke said it was flat, so it is!' Amazing!! Great video!!
So I paused at 5:18 and it is fascinating to read that flerfs have not gotten any better at their arguments in 100 years. Or finding any proof for their claims.
It's 12:42 AM in Phoenix, AZ and the Earth is still a globe. Sorry, blokes.
1:30 in btown sorry for being late! 😆
3:42 here 😊
@@gustavorincon1640 east coast? Sorry Mt time?
@@solarhammer6319 ET 😴
Always love the proof montages. 😂I chuckle every time. Thanks for bringing a bit of laughter to Friday morning!
"Sharing it around the world"... oops, surely she meant "Sharing it across the world"?
The system of land division in western US & Canada is based on a globe and has correction lines for curvature within the Township system, right on the ground.
As the saying goes here in Sweden, the lift doesn’t go all the way up…