How to setup tr-8S trigger out for multisequencing
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
- How to setup tr-8S trigger out to use one of the great feature of the Roland TR-08S: the triggers. Of course there is the dedicated trigger out, but also each of the 6 assignables audio out can be a used as a trigger out. It then provides up to 7 trigger sequences!!! That's GREAT! Check out the video for more on how to set it up.
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This was a huge help. Just starting to get into this TR-8S. Lots of fun. Thanks!! Subbed.
Grad to be helpful!
I’ve had my TR-8S for a few years now and NEVER knew those other assignable outputs could trigger synths too! I only thought it was the trigger out. My mind is sufficiently blown from the staggering amount of possibilities that opened up for me. Like for example If you start sidechaining some of those synths / the drum machine audio in unique ways, not to mention what would happen if I did bus processing on everything afterwards…. And to add further connectivity, using various degrees of midi connections between the systems where possible… it’s staggering how much untapped power I’ve been sitting on with my tr-8S😅🤯 I’m going to have to set aside a couple weeks just to reserve an entire bank of presets for these new patterns now…thanks for everything you do, good sir. Your work on this channel is truly one of the best and most helpful out there. Cheers
5 years later and its still an awesome tutorial . Thanks man, Got a sub 😉
Thanks for another life saving video NU-Trix
I am triggering my Circadian Rhythm from the tr 8 S then to modules So with the tr 8 S and modular rig my goodness I am having fun! Thanks pure Joy
Can't find a way to add the new "probability" to triggered notes going to an external device. Or am I missing something?
I haven’t try it yet.
It tried too and could not make it work for trigger.
After checking with Roland, the trigger track doesn’t have an automation layer. But you could do it with using an instrument tracks as a trigger. Have you ever tried that?
Great Video about how they work with trigger out from each one !! - thanks a lot !! helped me a lot !! Im planing to use all my boutiques with a beatstep pro sequencer and this, receiving Clock (trigger out) from my TR8-S - lets see if works....
I will probably have to watch this a few more times. Thank you for sharing this video! Hopefully I will post some performances with the tr8s soon!
Thank u for making this video
Thanks man, this helped me to sync my other instruments to the tr8s. Grateful
Nice Job!!! Thanks for taking the time to do this!
Great video man, i have a question, the quarter inch adapter on the back, does it matter if its stereo or mono?
A trigger cable should be mono by default. Stereo cables sometime don't even work.
nice vid! when the sh01a came in, it reminded me to remove the preset patterns, if possible! damn I'm tired of that first preset pattern hehe
Hello Nutrix, great video. I have a Roland TR 8s and want to use it to trigger the arp and sequencers of my Roland Boutiques and my Modal Cobalt 8x and 5s. What kind of sync cable do I use ??? I know it's a 3.5mm cable but is it a trs or ts cable ??? I've asked several people about this and haven't gotten a understandable answer. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Cheers !!!
I’ll ask Roland team to have the official answer. But I was able to run it with TRS and TS. That was between 2 boutique devices. From the Tr-8s out in trigger out, I’m using 1/4TS to 1/8TS.
Got the response from Roland CV and GATE are always TS cable.
@Nu-trix thanks for the answer. I went to Guitar Center and they had no clue what I was talking about. All they had were the trs cables and I didn't think a stereo cable would work. Cheers !!! 🥂
very helpful video demo. thank you
Great video! Do you know if this can work triggering into a DAW to control software instruments?
Some DAW (Ableton Live) can receive CV and GATE messages to then assign inside the DAW.
Does the B to H part on tr8s correlate to steps? Up to 128 steps would be so good regarding my boutiques little 16 steps!
You can press A to H and it will play them one after the other, creating a long 128 steps sequence.
@@Nu-trix that’s wicked. I’ll have to try it out as the 16 step sequencer I’ve found really limiting on the JU06a.
How do you programme which notes / chords on steps?
Sorry I’m a bit of a newb to hardware. ;)
Great tutorial, well explained making it easy to follow. Is it possible to achieve the same technique using the Beatstep Pro to trigger my Behringer MS-1? I have the TR8 and not the TR8s which means I dont have the trigger out option. I want to trigger the notes from sequences stored on my MS1 using whatever steps I choose over on the Beatstep Pro, is this possible and if so could you explain the setup please.
Very very helpful, thanks!
hey, you may bring some light in my dark?
i was just wondering: is it possible to sidechain the internal reverb i'm adding to the ext-in signal? works on the old TR-8, but can't figure out if my TR-8S can do the same. so far the ext-in-signal is sidechained, but i also want the reverbs tail then to be sidechained.
Nice explanation! Does the Trigger Out work to signal a Eurorack sequencer like a System-100 182? If it does then I don't need to buy and install a midi-to-CV convertor module on my rack.
I’m not sure if it can be use as a real time converter. I’ll have to check.
Thanks for this!!! Learned a lot👊🏻
Hi, This is an amazing tutorial. I going to buy my TR8S but I want to ask you which cable Do you suggest to buy to trigger a Moog Mother 32. Ty!
I think you will need a normal mono cv cable (for modular synth)
Great stuff - just getting in to this and it's a combination of research/trial and error/having fun ! What type of cable is used for the trigger connection - is it a 3.5mm stereo audio jack perchance ? I'm acquiring gear faster than i can master - which means i could confuse custard with mustard if i'm not careful ! Thanks for the review Nu,i now know what to do blue thanks to you apart from being unable to identify cable and i don't want to mess with my TR8-s,yes ?
Normally a trigger/cv/gate cable is a mono 3,5mm audio jack.
very well explained.. thank you-
Is there a way to hook up the TR8S as a trigger for both a Poly D synth and a TD 3 MO at the same time? Thanks!
I have a JU06A which only has a 16 step sequencer. Can I connect it to my tr8s in order to increase the length of the sequence?
It will not increase its length but you can control when each steps are played.
Yes! I've been watching videos to see how a tr8s would work with my modular and nobody else mentioned that the regular tracks can be trigger out as well. That totally changes things! Do the performance knobs and fader do anything to the trigger signal when a track is set up like this? It would be very cool to change the gate length on the fly for example
I’ll try to see if it affect something.
Last question, I promise. I got the regular instrument to trigger out ( through Assigning out, and switching Boost to Trigger), but the original assigned instrument is still bleeding through the main mix out. Is there a way for it to not come out of the main out? and just through the assigned trigger channel? Thank you, thank you, thank you. Really appreciate your knowledge.
You can mute an instrument in near certain check the track menu near sure you can mute it for trigger alone
Great video. I am new to the synth world and I am sold on the TR-8S but I was wondering if you can trigger a Korg Minilogue XD as I it has only Sync in and CV for multisequencing? I hope my question makes sense. Thanks
If the Minogue only has sync in then it can only be slave to a sync out from another device. The sync out of the TR-8s should be able to trigger the Minilogue.
Holy crap. I'd only used a single trig cable from the trig to my monologue until now! But you've just made me realise that I can now potentially sync anything else I've got with a sync in. Which right now is a Microfreak, Monologue, and a Skulpt. Hahah This is awesome. Thank you!
Had never even thought about this as an option to use the additional triggers and I'm kicking myself now hahaha
That is exactly why I do this! It’s great to hear that it got you further! Have a blast.
Hey Jonathan, did you find a way to connect your microfreak? I can't seem to get mine to work unless it's through the dedicated trigger out.
Jengalese hi. I'm struggling with anything other than midi with the microfreak. Trig out from the tr8s seems to lack transport control (start stop) and I can't get the mf to behave like my monologue does (one step per trigger). And if I try and use the tips in this vid, (using an extra assigned trig from a different track on the tr8s.) Doesn't seem to give enough of a signal to work consistently. I still need to do some more fiddling I think. Still not sure the voltage out on the non dedicated trig out is what the mf or monologue needs. My assumption is that in this vid it works because it's all roland gear talking to roland gear. But you'd expect it to work with most stuff!!
Jengalese I can make the mf work if I use midi out from the tr8s.
Greetings from Detroit / Thanks for all the tips & tricks ...
Question : I am triggering 4 boutiques from my TR8 s (i used this video for reference )
My problem is, unlike my TB 03,Se 02 and Ju 06 ( that trigger perfectly ) ... my SH- 01a continues playing (out of sync) after i mute the corresponding button.
I am currently using the the start/stop button on the SH 01a to stop the pattern in a live setting
Help me Synth Guy, your my only hope..
Thanks in advance for any info on this problem
Thanks for explaining this in the beginning
Nutrix great video. Can you show us how to midi sync the se-02 and the sh-01a to the tr-8s?
Can I use one cable and send the midi out from the tr to the sh midi in and then midi out to the se midi in?
Or should I buy a midi splitter cable and send the midi from the tr to the sh and se equally?
If I wanted to sync all of this to logic and receive the synth audio in logic what would be the best way?
Thank you you’re a great teacher!!!
The three devices you are talking about have MIDI and Audio over USB. If you comme them to a USN hub to your computer you will able to send and receive MIDI including sync. On top of that you will be able to record audio from each. A second option is if you want to sync all of them without the computer: using standard MIDI cables and a splitter you should take the MIDI output of the tr-8 into a splitter them to each devices. Less latency.
Nu-Trix The Synth Guy thank you!
Interesting technique!
So does the tr-8s have gates for effects? i cant get an answer on this anywhere. basically if you wanted to do some phil collins style gated reverb can this do that with internal effects?
No gate fx to do the gated reverb fx .
Thank you Nu-Trix...
Thanks for the great video dude! Love how missing steps can offset the sequencer of the SE02. One question, can the trigger send note information or is it just 'on/off' signal?
It’s just an on off signal.
@@Nu-trix Ah - thanks! I thought that may be the case!
This was incredibly helpful. Thanks!
Hey man thanks for the great vid. This is a bit unrelated but is there a way to feed audio, like a backing track, into the TR-8S and have the two sync up? Or vice-versa?
It will not sync to audio, only to a sync signal :MIDI Clock, cv gate
so. i have a mc-303 witch i love and have had for 20 years..and just got the minilogue XD. Q: how can i sync them i have never hooked up midi before.
My guess would be to have the MC-303 as the lead clock and the Minilogue the clock follower (MIDI sync, MIDI slave, Ext MIDI ). Just connect a classic MIDI cable (5 Pin DIN) fromt he MC-3030 MIDI out to the Minilogue MIDI in.
Can you apply "Last Step" function to Trigger Out sequence on TR 8s. Does any one know? Thank you.
i have a Toraiz Squid as a sequincer and i am strugling how to assign each instrument in tr-8s to a pad in the toraiz squid, is it possible to assign each instrument to a midi channels? lets say for example on squid pad 13 i assign it to be for kick which i assigned it on midi channel 13.
i have a Toraiz Squid as a sequincer and i am strugling how to assign each instrument in tr-8s to a pad in the toraiz squid, is it possible to assign each instrument to a midi channels? lets say for example on squid pad 13 i assign it to be for kick which i assigned it on midi channel 13.
please is it possible to do so?
Been watching you videos and your knowledge far exceeds my own, so taking the liberty to bother you with a question, which i've been unable to find for days on Google:
I have extremely low audio when connecting TR-8S (FW: 1.13) via USB to MX-1 (FW: 1.05). Both factory reset. All other AIRA devices have 3x volume (TB-3 and SYSTEM-1), When I connect speaker directly to TR-8S audio is also 3x louder vs USB. Do you have any idea what could be wrong? I even tried using the USB cables which are successful with the two other AIRA devices, but no luck
I have found also that USB audio is a lot lower than when using analog cable. I use the channel gain in the MX-1 to get the volume to a good one. It’s a digital signal, so boosting it will not really add any artifacts.
Cool Explanation! Thanks!
Hi , good morning , i would like to know how to connect ( midi cable , setreo cable etc..) roland Aira tr8 , beatstep pro , behringer TD3 , volca kick , volaca beats , volca keys , and volca mix , knowing i only have a behringer umc204 interface . I hope you could help me to get started .
Hi Jean Michel, I’ll try to prepare a video about it. Can you specify how exactly you imagine working? And would it be clearer if I make it in french?
@@Nu-trix My plan was to use tr8 as my main drum machine knowing im gonna use kick and beats to accompanied it, beatstep pro to use my vst and keys and td3.
Tr8 master for the beat , volca keys for melody background sound
@@Nu-trix la video en francais serai bien pour tous les cables et connection tres effective. Je suis tout juste en train de debute
@@Nu-trix Hi, im interested in this too. How to connect my volcas (drum, keys, fm, bass) with tr-8s as master. Please in english if you are going to make a video.. thanks! :)))
I made this video about it : ruclips.net/video/qXH4nCmcNyI/видео.html
Hey man, thanks for this vid. It explains a lot to me. Do you know what voltage is being sent out the trigger out? I am considering a TR8s to trigger my Moog Mother 32. The Moog only accepts -5V to +5V. Thanks for looking into this!
Finally got the full details from Roland. The outputs/triggers specs : -TRIGGER OUT jack : 15V (pulse width 7ms, maximum current 3mA)
-ASSIGNABLE/TRIGGER OUT jacks : 13V (pulse width 1ms, maximum current 30mA)
But I think this is misleading because it can play audio or be use as a trigger. I know people using it with euro rack in trigger mode without any problem. I guess when it is in trigger mode it limits to 5 volts to be compatible with eurorack.
@@Nu-trix Thanks so much for figuring this out! I guess the trigger out will not cause any harm as you indicated since I found many users on Reddit triggering their euro rack modules and Moog DFAM (has no MIDI in) via the trigger out. Also Roland has a video out where they demonstrate the combination of TR-8s with their Series 500 modular system. So I guess I will not need an attenuator. thanks again for investigating this. I appreciate the effort in clarifying this.
MyTr8s seems to trigger SH1a sequencer via trigger out, the way it's supposed to, but not through regular assigned outputs. What could be the problem? Any one? Thank you.
The output needs to be switched into trigger mode.
@@Nu-trix Thank you!
Thank you this is just what I was looking for until I can save up for a squid .
do you need a mixer for this setup or is audio interface ok?
Hey man idk if you’ll read this but I’ve been searching for a good hardware synth with great basslines for tech house you think you can help me out with naming a few?
If you are looking for reel analog , I personally like the Novation Bassstation II. You could also look at the Korg monologue and minilogue or the Roland SE-02.
Would you have any idea what could cause a trigger out to send double speed voltage? I have it syncd to a volca bass.
When I have all 16 trigger steps on the tr8s lit up, the pattern on the bass plays twice per bar. If I do 8 notes on the tr8s trigger out then it goes once per bar.
It's fine, because I can have it working fine with 8 notes, but I'm just curious as to what could be causing it. Is the voltage too much from the tr8s or something I wonder
They don’t have the same PPQN or Parts per quarter notes. In other words they do not use the same amount of trigger sync subdivisions for the duration of a quarter note.
@@Nu-trix thanks a million for the reply. Would THIS PPQN apply to midi sync as well or is it just CV?
@@andyjacob7877 The PPQN in MIDI 1.0 is always 48 for every MIDI compatible device or software. The analog CV sync PPQN is per company decision and changed over the years.
Isn't it just the same as active step basically?
Quick one - Is it possible to use, for example - 909 kick along with 606/707 or any other samples ? because I saw once you change the kit, all sounds change.
In the TR-8S it is possible to assign any sound to any "track" so you could have 3 Kick, 2 snares and the rest your custom samples. All of is would be saved in a kit that can be recalled.
@@Nu-trix Thanks !
Awsome info, thanks
Very cool !!! Thx
How can I start my Roland tr 8s with my foot pedal instead my hand finger
I don’t think you can do that using only the TR-8s and a sustain pedal. You will need to send a MIDI start message
i see JP8000 in background :) can you please make a video on how to trigger it in Ableton,Thanks
What exactly do you mean by "trigger it". Playing MIDI Notes or Arpegiator MIDI sync or...?
i would to hear jp when i press piano roll in ableton,thanks for reply @@Nu-trix
I’ll put that in my list of video to do.
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I still cant get the tr-8s to trigger anything, do you think its because im using a mono trigger cable?
The trigger NEED to be mono.
Listened to your singles today !
Yo know they are named after my sons: Antoni and Borys. :-)
So how I can trigger a synth (ultranova) without trigger connection??
zapp346 , what do you mean? How to trigger a MIDI note on the synth or trigger the internal sequencer or..?
Can't seem to TR-8S to trigger minilogue XD anyone seen it done successfully?
I see no sync in on the tr8s. I am used to send my tempo out from my DFAM or Mother-32 into my korg volca beats and then use the volca beats out to sync with other synths...I see the TR8s has only MIDI IN or OUT and maybe it wouldn’t fit well with my setup...or is there a way to sync them properly?
Tr8s - Only midi in, or USB midi, no sync in as far as I'm aware.
somehow it doesnt work when i connect my td3 and tr8s via trigger out to sync in
In the TD3 manual they write about switches at the back of the device to select the clock source. Maybe it is not in gate sync mode?
Nu-Trix The Synth Guy thank you for the answer. Changing the clock source from internal to trigger via synth tool solved the problem for me ( had to set it to 1 pps or something like that)
what cable is it lol
You're not using the rimshot but RC (Ride Cymbal) for the second trigger. ;-)
Oups, my bad.
I am I the çonly not seing the point of doing this ?
Anybody wanting to combine the tr-8s with a modular synth approach.
Not seeing the real benefit🤔
I have Roland tr8s and microfreak , but i am not able to get microfreak Sound on the same line as tr8s .. need extern soundmixer ? I dont use pc just analog . Thanks in advance .
Patch the output of the MicroFreak in the Tr8s external input ( left). In the tr-8s internal menus find the settings for external input and set it to mono. Turn up the estern alors input volume (beside the master volume)
@@Nu-trix thanks .