Dragon Ball's Greatest Friendship - Dragon Ball Dissection: The Majin Boo Arc Part 19!
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- Опубликовано: 16 сен 2024
- Dragon Ball surprisingly takes a step back from all the fighting and training and powering up. In fact, it sidelines the main characters entirely and becomes an anti-buddy comedy starring Majin Boo, Mr. Satan, and a cute puppy! Wait. What's that? Could it be... character development? The best character development in the series? Yay!
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As you may or may not know, the powers that be have taken issue with my using Dragon Ball music in the opening. I suppose that's certainly their right. As a result, I have made the difficult choice to replace the opening music in most of The Boo Arc videos with a new, RUclips-friendly piece. I hope you like it. As a compromise, I have retained the original music in a few select Boo Arc videos scattered across the arc. For those who miss the original, follow this link to the opening as I uploaded it in 2020. Thanks so much for your support!
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Hyper aggressive show about spikey haired meatheads has conflict resolved by nicely asking bad guy to not do the bad thing. Thank you for reminding me of this incredible chapter.
For real . The buu arc's absurdity left a bad taste . It obscured the good in the arc . This video gave me fond memories of reading this manga .
Usually it’s the heroes, backed into the corner, benefiting from an ass pull transformation. In this case, the writer himself is forced to give one to his villain, for the benefit of the writer himself, after he backed himself into a corner by basically neutralizing the villain’s villainy in the middle of the arc.
Some may think it sounds dumb, but it's really a breath of fresh air.
The fact that Majin Boo's true evil is awakened by the petty acts of an ordinary evil human reminds me of how Piccolo Daimao came to be. Not Kami splitting away his evil half, but how evil entered into Kami in the first place because of the influence of the humans around him as he grew up on Earth.
Indeed. Something which really got overshadowed sadly was how the influence of people could effect anyone since all of the evil of humanity was litterally Piccolo when Kaki had to get all of it out of him, Something he wouldn't of got on Namek.
Behind all those plot points, Toriyama's opinion on humanity seems to be quite cynical
@@Clean.Eastwood He's not wrong.
@@spartanq7781 Humanity is like beer. The scum rises to the top.
Some are born evil, others are influenced into evil.
I feel like the vids celebrating good decisions in the Buu Saga is like watching a Greek tragedy- you know eventually after all the positive it’s still ranked as the only 1/10
My thoughts exactly.
Makes me wonder how much of the arc is going to get torn into later
The Boo arc had two things; Gotenks and Mr Satan.
Everything else, well...
@@Jose-se9pu Not even Gotenks. Fat Boo, Mr. Satan, and the brief Great Saiyaman antics at the beginning are what made the Boo Arc worthwhile.
Boo has a greater abundance of scenarios that ended up being iconic to Dragon Ball overall compared to the Cell arc. It also brings back a very welcome amount of the classic comedic tone. Yet I can't deny that I see it as the weaker arc. It's pretty frustrating to look back and see just how much good it brought to the table only to constantly drag its feet.
With Cell, the frequent restructuring of the arc didn't make for great writing, but was a testament to Toriyama as a storyteller to keep the momentum going. Writing like that had to have been exhausting though, and he didn't learn his lesson when going into the Boo saga. We get those same pivots in the story but it feels like the momentum is constantly stalling out on top of frustrating logistical stuff you don't want to get hung up on but there's so much of it that you can't help yourself.
Pretty much everything after this part...
The idea of Boo building a house made out of deconstructed humans made into clay is so creative yet utterly terrifying
He does so many horrifying things like turning someone into milk then giving them to someone to drink
@@romulusnuma116 I feel sorry for the toilet part
@@nicholassims9837 bruh 🤣🤣🤣
are they still technically alive after he does that? I remember Goku said about his family and friends "they've become part of buu they cant even die" when he turns someone into candy and eats them they are still aware and can feel pain. I wonder if that also happens when he turns people into objects. if that's true then image being turned into a toilet like the comment above said 😱😱😱
@@cjvaye99 Let's hope not.
It's funny how the side-character you're not suppose to like from the Cell saga has one of the best developments of the series
I feel like the buu arc should have a Schrödinger’s cat rating. Because while it is the worst arc, it also has the best moments in the entire series.
It really is an uneven arc. Unlike the cell arc, which is pretty bland throughout, this arc has one of the best moments since the saiyan sage, which is this part with hercules and buu, and some of the worst writing in the entire series thus far.
@@infernaldragon5210 lol hercules
@@yeepsleep sorry, autocorrector
@@infernaldragon5210 Yeah, Mr Satan's actually more accurate in the manga...
Well the only problem here is that the Buu Saga isn't the worst arc at all. When I read through the manga the Buu Saga was one of the arcs that I enjoyed the most. Despite its length I enjoyed every second of it and never got bored. Can't say the same for the Pilaf or RRA arc.
Say what you want about Mr Satan, but he DID charge two guys with guns who had just actively fired upon his general area, totally without fear and effortlessly dispatched them.
The worlds greatest martial artist!
Yeah for real. That sense of initiative in the face of danger honestly earns him the title of the World's Strongest for me. Even when he's outgunned he still goes for it.
Well, you see, thanks to the power of anger and friendship...these two guys with guns weren't dealing with the average world's champion anymore...as he became...
...A super human/earthling, of course ! What else could I say ? It's Dragon Ball obviously XD 🤷♂️ I couldn't help myself but to throw that meme, which sure is getting old now, but damn it's always good ! 😅
@@yotomoe5953 People don't realise that Hercule actually won the 24th Budokai fair and square against the world's best that couldn't use ki. He's no joke, it's just that the power scaling outgrew the martial arts aspect.
@@kylefields3951 Absolutely. You could argue he's a Panputto tier fighter. Someone incredibly powerful for us normal people but incredibly weak compared to goku and the gang.
(Though it's been my headcanon for a while that he's probably let himself go for a bit after his fame and fortune.)
@@yotomoe5953At the very least, that Cell Saga scene of Mr. Satan showing off his strength (pulling four fully loaded tour buses, punching a hole through one of them to pull out a stack of phone books, and tearing that whole stack of phone books in one go) was drafted by Toriyama. So, Mr. Satan would probably have a very different body type if someone like him existed in the real world (given that strongmen of that caliber usually possess more of a belly to actually anchor their muscle to), but he is stronger than anyone who exists IRL.
2:56 Man, the implication that Boo turned that poor old man into a carton of milk, then gave it to the formerly blind boy to drink, unknowingly drinking his milky innards is pretty spooky.
Nothing quenches the thirst like People Milk
Soylent Buu, haha.
Soylent Green is people
I actually teared up watching this video I'll be honest. You've conveyed my thoughts perfectly, better than I ever could. I've always LOVED this part of the story ever since i watched it with my dad back in 03 and to have it given the appreciation it deserves has made me so so happy.
Man can't believe I also remember watching the anime version of this all the way back in that same year.
good times.
I hope your father is doing well.
Same, this was a stroke of genius writting, even as a kid i recognized this part being so captivating and fun.
There's some black comedy in the fact that Vegeta and (seemingly) Gohan got killed by Buu and Goku wasted the rest of his day on Earth stalling him, when all that good guys had to do was approach him politely and ask "Hey, could you not kill people?" and everything would've turned out fine.
Goku did that (more or less) and it didn’t work. It worked for Mr. Satan because he became Buu’s friend. If Goku would’ve spent some time with Buu without Babidi’s influence then yeah, Goku could’ve ended this arc without violence. Goku at least did his part in getting Buu to realize he doesn’t have to listen to Babidi, which made all the later stuff with Mr. Satan even possible.
@@Hyperslayer_X I'll admit that Goku planted the idea that he shouldn't just be subservient to someone who treats him badly and even was fairly nice to him while they were fighting, though I would say that he expected Buu to just kind of calm down on his own rather than being direct like Mr. Satan did.
6:12 RIP the poor souls that wound up as Boo's toilet.
I didn't realize that until just now!
Oh boy XP
Mr Satan and Majin Buu are the most underrated duo in fictional history.
Cause mr satan is hard to like
@@cloudsombrero maybe for you. Most fans seem to really like him.
@@b-moviepaul2116 I actually used to just tolerate him at first, but lately he's been really growing on me.
@Guy Dude yamchas way more relatable in terms of a normal z fighter
When I was a kid I used to hate Mr. Satan.
Now I realize he's the real MVP of the series.
Mr Satan might be a self loving asshole but Mark is just an insecure sweet heart
to be fair, he was a REALLY unlikeable character in te Cell arc, stealing Gohans win was just scummy!
And I hated throgh the beginning of the Buu Arc too... UNTIL THIS POINT, where I started suddenly like and later even LOVE HIM as a cahracter!
@@NeroDeAngelo I think fans of Gohan are more upset about Mr. Satan taking credit for Gohan's victory than Gohan himself is. He really doesn't seem to care one way or the other. Considering how much he tried to hide the fact he was the Golden Warrior, he probably appreciated the fact Mr. Satan stole credit.
@@TheAzulmagia Don't get me wrong, we all KNOW that Gohan doesn't mind! I know too =) But that doesn't change the fact that what Satan did was horrible and bad!
Only because the "victim" doesn't mind, doesn't mean it is less of a bad thing. The same counts if he would have stolen the victory from Goku, Vegeta, Trunks, YAMCHA or anynone else!
Let's not get crazy ! He might be a very funny, interesting well-written character and all, but he didn't solve everything on his own actually...
Pink, round, insatisfacible appetite, hits everything that he sees... Is buu just an evil kirby?
No, Kirby is a good Buu
@@joshuaowens4095 You stole my joke you stole my joke.
Kirby came first
@@Powerman77775 The joke still works.
*Dedede climbs down a tree into the sight of the viewers*
*King Dedede* : Hey! Ya'll know where Ahm able to find dat dere Penguin Village?!
(bonus points of you got the 3 references btw)
24:18 Love the little dig you throw at Vegeta there.
He deserves it. Honestly he would be better if he became a bad memory after Freeza or he himself killed him.
Merecidísimo
@@spartanq7781 would you say he's the original Cassandra ?
@@nicholassims9837 Who?
@@spartanq7781 from the Tangled tv series
This is why I often call Toriyama a "genius". Not in the way that his writing is like...always good. But somehow against all odds he manages to squeeze out these gems when you least expect them. Who would've ever thought that Mr. Satan and Majiin Buu coming together would be the most interesting act of this story. Satan already proved himself somewhat unlikable and Buu is the guy who's literally killing everyone. But by bringing them together it's some of the STRONGEST dynamic work Toriyama has done in the whole series. And while I know this isn't how the arc ends, It's honestly nice to see how CLOSE we got to having Mr. Satan just stopping the threat by making friends.
Yep. Its a great turn around becuase your used to characters in dragon ball using violence to beat the bad guy. Here doing the reverse almost works.
@@josesosa3337 I will say Dragonball does put making friends as the way to defeat your enemies out a lot. It's honestly one of the most recurring themes that people tend to overlook.
Yamcha went from being a bandit to a friend, Krillin became a friend instead of a rival,Tenshinhan decided he doesn't want to be evil any longer, Piccolo cared about Gohan enough to sacrifice himself, Vegeta should've stayed dead on Namek, The androids were open to a dialogue and ended up befriending the dragon team and now Majiin Buu is just like "oh, killing is bad? Well dang I won't do that anymore".
Honestly once any of the characters realize they've got quite a bit in common they say "wait, why are we trying to kill each other? This guy's pretty cool!"
Considering he was a weekly mangaka there was only so much he could do to plan ahead. DB is definitely a "it's way better than it should have been given the odds"
That's like saying Hitler is a hero because he once thanked the mailman and you wouldn't expect it from him. Let's face the facts: Toriyama sucks at writing and you're making apologetics like the best Bible scholar would do :)
@@pascalsimioli6777 jesus christ dude
It's scenes like these is what made me like buu a lot more than cell. He's just a very entertaining villain.
Mr Boo, his other forms are literally punching bags who wants to destroy the universe "just because"
@@Jose-se9pu Cell was the same just less entertaining in the process
@@romulusnuma116 cell at least had that creepy predatory animal feel in his first form
@@anrick1362 First form Cell sneaking around, sucking people up like a horror movie villain was great.
I think also because we never fully understand Cell motivations to be mr perfect and being the strongest guy in the universe, I find him a really boring villain and it is too similar to Frieza, Majin Bu is a much better character and yeah you can't dislike his transfomations but at least when he absorbs somebody he also changed his personality and that's a nice thing to me
The thrill-seeking gunman and his butler are so pivotal to this arc and to the development of Boo and Satan. It’s a shame that successive adaptations have wimped out more and more with their portrayal. I think the Kai version of this arc even excised the scene with the elderly couple entirely, making their appearance an even more WTF moment than it is in the manga.
The elders are there in Kai I believe
@@samueloak1600 They are, but they edit out the sniping
@@funkdoc1112 Darn it
Makes sense they cut out/edit the elderly couple getting sniped, because it still was pretty heavy shit to show on a Sunday morning, to kids watching Kai.
@@GMan873 in the video game Karoke they appear and go straight to Buus house and thrm shooting Hercule seems more accidental thought they don't have that much remorse .
You know, sometimes I feel like you are one of the very few fans who can look at Dragon Ball at a much deeper perspective, and not immediately mention the word POWER LEVEL at least once.
True. I really wish more people viewed this series.
6:13 I love how in the anime they made a transition between Buu being in the toilet and Buu brushing his teeth, you see the toothpaste droping in close up thinking it is some kind of weird alien thing Buu is pooping.
Also in the english DBZ Kai dub, right when Buu shows the toilet he says "This where Buu poo!" which makes the visual gag 10x better
10:40 Are you telling me Mr. Satan was gonna use.. TRICKS to defeat Majin Buu?
Some of which are even pyrotechnics of a sort.
Well, of course ! It's pretty often the same guy that calls tricks what others do that he can't who actually uses tricks himself...what do we expect ? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
21:00 - 21:10
In 6+ years of watching MistareFusion, this might be their funniest Out of Context moment ever.
Jokes aside, amazing episode, Mistare. I really like this section of the story, and it's nice to know that I'm not alone.
It isn't really completely out of context bc he mention DB
Im from belgium myself so that part was hilarious to me
Majin Boo getting angry over a puppy looks way more scary than him going on a genocide.
Because this was at this moment Buu's most evil part has been awaken out of him...just when he barely started to learn enjoyable things in life other than killing and destroying.
Which is both dramatic irony and cathartic, and also why this makes a good chapter in this arc, besides the less good chapters around it. Basically just like miracles in life, funny enough.
There's nothing scarier than someone who's lost something they loved.
Really, it's like, this is the guy who casually blew through an entire city for _fun._ What's he going to do when he's _trying_ to hurt people?
This is why I love Majin Boo so much. He's Dragon Ball's best villain since Freeza Arc Vegeta. His personality and dynamic with Mr. Satan are some of the best aspects of Dragon Ball. Mr. Satan is really the unsung hero of Dragon Ball and the primary example on how problems can be solved in ways other than having a high battle power and punching things really hard. Plus, dark humor is really Toriyama's forte. Toriyama is a comedy writer after all, so I wish he would have played into this more times later in the series instead of mostly phasing it out in favor of progressively bigger, more bombastic fights. Unfortunately, Majin Boo is going to transform, and after the new him gets a strong and horrifying first impression, he's gonna be boring as hell.
I would say mr satan is the unsung hero of the Buu arc remember he does not exists for most of Dragonball!
Mr Satan saves Vegeta's life during the final battle...twice.
Not to mention, him been the one convincing humans to give Goku their energy.
He truly was the MVP of the Boo saga
@@Videospiel-Man5730
True, but he does show that creativity is key and characters can have value that isn't solely based on how hard they punch. Take the likes of Kuririn, Yamcha, and Tenshinhan. They focus on punching really hard, but they don't punch nearly as hard as Goku does, so they remain overshadowed by him. Mr. Satan, despite being far weaker, accomplishes far more than they do and is the ultimate reason Boo gets defeated. That shows how Dragon Ball can create a unique set of problems and scenarios that can have various ways of being solved that different characters could have been suited for as opposed to just trying to punch all of your problems until they go away. That was also the problem with Videl as she's gets sidelined early on when she could have contributed in some way that isn't solely based on punching things hard. Her being stronger than Mr. Satan really got her nowhere at all in the story. Mr. Satan, despite being a late entry to the series, is really the unsung hero of Dragon Ball and I wish Toriyama would have done something like this much sooner.
@@Gardetrace i dont disagree!
Well said
Honestly
This video made me appreciate Fat Buu a LOT more than I use to
"Why do you kill?"
"Because it is fun!"
Reminds me of a certain head in a floating ball, brought to Earth by a very shitty prime minister, in a British sci fi show.
Oh, a Whovian
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These videos make me wish Toriyama was allowed to just write a comedy with magic martial arts all the way through
If anything the Gotenks parts show that Toriyama gets repetitive really fast even in comedy.
See that sounds good on paper, and with scenes like this is fantastic, but like anything overuse would've worn out its welcome fast.
I mean that's Dr. Slump, that one later on starts beig more action focused.
10:23 On the contrary, I do like how they handled that gag in the anime, especially with Daisuke Gori's bold Satan voice quieting to a gentle, slightly terrified whisper.
I'm not saying I don't like it. I appreciate how they altered the joke to make it work. I just don't think it works as well as it does in the manga.
@@MistareFusion Honestly, the first time I read that panel, I didn't even notice that the print was smaller than it should have been! I think actually hearing it helps.
“How Buu supposed to live up to body image in magazine?!”
When I think of the best part of all of Dragon Ball, I think about this.
I know that the arc is often considered to be bad but these chapters are gold.
You can tell from these chapters that Toriyama must've had a blast doing them, he gets to write and draw what he loves best, expressive gags, it says a lot when one of the best parts in the Buu Arc doesn't involve the standard tropes Dragon Ball is known for. These chapters are also the ones that made me come to like Mr. Satan.
Childhood is hating Hercule and his antics
Adulthood is realizing that Mr. Satan is the best character Toriyama ever created.
I'd say one of the best...let's keep our minds not too high, shall we ?
Because adulthood is also supposed to look at things with a bigger overview.
I totally agree, and just like I've already said, ever since I was little I absolutely loved the friendship between Majin Boo and Mr Satan "oh.... why do keep doing this Majin Boo?? Don't you see!? People likes when you do good things for them!!...."
During the Cell Arc, I never cared for Mr. Satan but once the story got to this point, he became one of my favorite characters.
Well, technically he also helped a little in the Cell Games by throwing Android 16's head at Gohan and Cell's feet. So let's say he started to grow at this point, which also took some time to develop, pretty much like Vegeta but even shorter, in less than 2 main arcs against almost 4 for Vegeta...just saying.
And to be fair, he is one of the stronger "normal" humans.
I was NOT expecting that Ren and Stimpy frame at 12:51.
Forgot frieza cell or any other villain in this series. These two robbers leave so much more of an impact on me. So often we're taught to only care about how strong and cool the villain is and the damage they cause is just glossed over. But the fact that these two men who are so impossibly weak compared to buu can cause so much damage to him is just amazing.
Exactly it also is real. With all those other villains it's just fiction but shooting people is something that hits close to home.
6:19- this and the earlier scene with the girl shows that Buu isn't completely braindead child as Babidi thinks- he's just a simple being that hasn't learned the value of life yet and has some adult desires- which makes sense as he's an eons-old being that probably had time to think about his way in life during his time imprisoned for millions of years.
Are we supposed to assume he was conscious for his entire time being locked away?
I'm guessing that Buu tennis is just around the corner... I predict there will be a lot of criticism/ranting from this point on
Well the rest of the arc, from the moment Super Buu enters the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, is just one really really really REALLY long fight.
@@TheAzulmagia Although I would argue some of it is at least creative and interesting to watch.
1:39 Small correction here: Buu is not asking the woman if she thinks he's cool, he's asking if she thinks he's handsome. The word he uses is かっこい (kakkoi), which, yes, it means "cool", but it's also used to describe an attractive male (the word "ikemen" is a kind of recent development). So... we can infer that was Buu's way of asking the woman for her consent? That's...
...
I genuinely don't know how to end that sentence...
I remember in the original Funimation dub he asked if she thought he was sexy.
@@TheAzulmagia Having the original dub DVD singles, I can confirm this.
"Hey lady! You think Buu sexy?"
Toriyama was a genius at writing strangely naive characters. Whether they were benevolent (Arale) or villanous (this incarnation of Buu).
Or a certain monkey boy.
No joke, respect for Mr. Satan/Hercule went up 200%. This is actually really good writing on Toriyama’s part.
@QuasiTheChemist
No kidding. Mr. Satan's growth in this arc is one of the reasons why I question the ire it gets. Toriyama took a joke character I hated in the Cell arc and made me like him. Because Mr. Satan in a way become a genuine hero at the end of the story from befriending Buu to helping defeat Kid Buu.
It's some pretty impressive stuff.
Vegeta: the lame whiny adult who hates his well own humanity to the point of selling his low.
Mr. Satan: John Wick who can bring comedy and impressive drama in a single chapter
Who is the more entertaining character?
Of course, Mr. Satan.
HINT: Notice how cooler Satan looks while avenging the dog
13:00 - I would say that Dende has the biggest change in appearance seeing as he started this arc as an adult and is now a child again. Very surprised Mistarefusion hasn't mentioned it yet.
Inconsistency!
@@mitchfletcher2386 More like Toriyama forgot.
Fusion's jabs at Vegeta give me life. Not gonna lie. But I must say this episode has made me appreciate Mr. Satan and (Good) Majin Buu way more than I ever thought. Well done sir.
Ooooh, was wondering how you'd feel about Mr. Satan's development
4:56 It seems to be a recurring theme in late dragonball:
Freeza is a corrupted adult with too much power
#17 & #18 are corrupted teenagers with too much power
Boo is a corrupted baby with too much power
Frieza was more like a kid or toddler, plenty of temper tantrums.
Cell was the adult or Raditz.
Freeza: kid
Androids: teenengers
Cell: Aduld
Buu: Baby
@@guardiantree8879 I guess manchild would be more apt. In any case, imo he's definitely the adult of the group since he's the only one who has some form of authority having his own organization and whatnot.
Cell is the edgy pre-teen of the bunch who thinks he's perfect / better than everyone else when really he's just as bad with all the flaws (losing his temper etc).
I started watching dragonball dissection for this day.
The Satan x Buu shaenanigans were the only episodes i truly cried too when i was a kid. ngl, had trouble holding those in on the 22:00 panel
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What an absolutely great episode this was. Lovely insights and sharp commentary. This might be one of those episodes that I put up multiple times to relax. I'm also very glad you pointed out the catharsis in Mr Satan actually fighting for a noble and just cause. It's my favourite Satan moment.
Pure Evil. Born From a Man who decided he Could get away with whatever he wanted in a World where no one could stop him.
"Mr Satan, you really are the world's savior!"
Toriyama taking refuge in audacity as the Majin Buu arc progressed really hurt its antagonist as much as its heroes. If someone asks you "What do you think of Buu?", the only appropriate response is "Which one?" on account of how Toriyama keeps pivoting in different directions over and over again, each time making Buu less and less interesting or entertaining until we're left with an opponent who cannot even hold a conversation.
It also breaks my heart that the writers at Toei seemingly have no interest whatsoever in the character, continually benching him because they aren't creative enough to accommodate him in the story.
2:10- Buu's face turning humanoid foreshadows....that unfortunate aspect of his more powerful transformation.
Also- the lady freaking out foreshadows Barry's own monstrous nature under a handsome face in a meta sort of way in Super.
I honestly feel like they could have made an entire sitcom series based on this concept alone. And I'd have loved watching that!
Honestly, it was these episodes in the Buu arc while rewatching the anime that made this my favorite arc as a whole. I still remember Mr. Satan telling that blonde guy: "Go ahead, pick it up" before beating him down again. It was just such a badass moment.
@@Dee_Ceee I know, but it's still just a cool and badass character moment that's so different from how dragon ball usually is and in a good way.
I always thought the most interesting part of this arc was Vegeta's breakdown at the very start and seeing him change at the very end, but this part is clearly the best part in between all of that, if not the actual most interesting thing. Seeing someone solve the major threat by befriending the villain rather than fight them for the millionth time is pretty nice. Also unlike anything that's happened prior it actually amounts to an assist against Kid Buu.
As a Kid, I always thought of Mr Satan as a Buu-arc character, instead of a Cell-arc character. As a child, I didn't understand why. I knew he was on the Cell games, but it didn't feel... Real? Important enough?
Now I get why. In the Cell games, Mr Satan was a prompt. In this arc in the Buu Saga, he becomes a character.
A contributing factor may be how, visually, the character goes through an art style shift where he starts to be drawn with a bigger head and has less pronounced muscles to emphasize his gag manga nature.
Edit: lol, that change was brought up this very vid. Neat. I was expecting it to be commented on around near the Kid Boo stuff where his head really looked huge.:P
I the Dragon Ball universe, A Dog of Flanders is part of the Belgium expanded universe. It's generally seen as the only part worth looking at between Heart of Darkness and the film adaptation of In Bruges.
Ah, that clears that up. Thanks!
My favorite video of this arc. There's just so much genuine feeling here (about such a genuine part of the story), and it's presented in such a well-structured way that builds it up, that I physically feel the impact of those closing statements. Awesome job with this one Lance.
Satan just told chaotic evil incarnate to stop doing bad thing.
Beautiful job describing what makes these chapters so good. I actually got kind of teared up over the silly relationship between a washed up martial artist and a pink fat man.
This section of the Boo Arc is why for years I put it above Cell and even Freeza’s arcs, the smaller, character moments that not only flesh out Majin Boo more so than his predecessors
His friendship with Mark (inside joke) and adoption of Bee the Dog is some of my absolute favourite moments of the series
And if I can give the Galactic Patrol Prisoner Arc credit, it’s the fact they finally gave Boo some importance again
It's tangentially related to this, but since I remember seeing you there -- Totally Not Mark's poll about "Style vs Story" in Dragon Ball is answered by this video right here. The fighting doesn't matter if you don't give it a context for it to matter. All the style in the world can't compete against reasons for me to care about the style.
This is my favorite moment in the Majin Buu saga and I'm glad to finally see it talked about. Too bad it's... not exactly all downhill from here, but... yeah.
This little story of Mr. Satan and Buu is one of my favorite parts in the whole series. It made Mr. Satan rise up to my 2nd favorite Dragon Ball character and it's just so damn nice to see such interesting and naturally written development. Honestly, this story arc alone might be why I just barely prefer the Buu Saga to the Cell Saga.
Also agreed, Mr. Satan vs Petty Thugs is the best fight in this arc. Haven't yelled out so much hype for a character in Dragon Ball in a long while.
This chapter does make me wonder, if in an alternate universe, "Ultimate" Gohan did save the day, not by a generic DBZ beatdown, but by following up on Hercule's act: by appealing to Buu's better nature. Gohan and Super Buu throwing down, but Gohan's primary tactic being a constant appeal to Buu's fun-loving self and developed character under Buu, perhaps eventually resulting in Buu re-splitting and Gohan finishing off the evil Buu with a Genki Dama. While the story wouldn't be as well-done as this, it'd still be a neat improvement over what we got.
21:03 I always attest to the fact that Dragon Ball takes place on a completely different Earth, even when the old Funimation dub made lines referencing the real world (ex: Bulma knows who Jane Goodall is, Goku compares an apple falling on Kaio's world to the one that fell on Sir Isaac Newton's head, and Gohan saying Krillin made the worst Humphrey Bogart impression), but even the original Japanese version has done this most recently (ex: Pilaf talking about getting Mongolian BBQ in RoF).
Buu is literally “a child given super powers”, he has no sense of full self awareness of the morality of what he does is right or wrong due to his own personal perspective being very basic and easy to manipulate. Especially by many negative influences who will take advantage of him for their own inhumane desires. Like what we saw from his previous “master”. This type of character is very recognizable, it was later repeated with the one of the four emperors Big Mom from One Piece!
I've never felt so at ease knowing that I'm not the only bastard who loves those few episodes with Mr. Satan and Boo. What stuck to me since my childhood wasn't the plot, it wasn't the characters; what stuck to me was Mr. Satan beating up that guy after he shot the dog.
I think in many ways, Mr. Satan is Toriyama's soul turned into a character in his own series. He stumbles, he had rough beginnings, but the moment he had the opportunity to grab all the fame, he took it, and it changed him forever. He dedicated all his days into keeping that hype, keeping that fame. He gave people anything dumb thing that they wanted just so that he could keep the hype going. But here, when it all failed and it started coming down on him, he lets himself go. He does whatever he wants to do instead of what people expect him to do, and he proves to be one of the greatest writers in the world as I know it. Not only making such a perfect and emotional story in just three chapters, but doing it on the fly. The world wasn't saved by space warlords, gods or superhuman martial artists, it was saved by silly man who's flawed in every way. No fights, no time travel, no universal consequences. And it creates my favorite moment in dragon ball history.
This is a great one! As a kid when I first saw this I finally started to like Mr. Satan, or as the dub that aired on Cartoon Network called him "Hercule". Before then I just didn't like seeing him on screen, but I first empathisized with him here!
It's thing like this that made the maji buu arc a really gem for me. It one of my favorites because of how return to form that it tries to be.
The moral ambiguity of these few chapters absolutely shit on the entire Zamasu arc and "whatever is he good or is he bad", forced, angsty dribble they shoved in our faces durring that storyline.. And people will stand hand and foot trying to claim that Black and Zamasu are the most "complex" characters in series, yeah right.
There are fans that think Jiren is the greatest villain because he punches really hard.
Dragon ball is a victim of its own success.
I just like Zamasu because of his VA honestly. He goes absolutely ham on the mic.
People who think Zamasu is a "complex" villain are suffering from severe cognitive dissonance.
Zamasu THINKS he is the sole judge, jury and executioner of what is best for the universe. He starts by believing mortals are inherently inferior to Gods, he sees ONE instance of mortals fighting....And he just decides ALL mortals are inherently evil and deserve to be purged.
Then to enact this plan he systemically kills off ALL the Supreme Kais in the multiverse. Killing the Gods of Destruction in the process. So no one can stop him puring all Mortality.
He's so blinded he fails to see the hypocrisy of his actions, and he shows no hesitation killing even the most harmless of Mortals. By virtue of them being Mortal, they deserve to die.
Zamasu isn't morally complex, he's a villain who thinks he's a hero. He's an idiot.
@@PlanetZoidstar Well typically the best villains are those who think they are righteous. Or what do you think.
I think Zamasu is okay. Better than Cell. But the Zamasu Arcs ending is still dogshit.
@@sunwukong5518 Well that's subjective, the most fun villains I would argue are the pure evil ones - so long as they have the charisma and presence to pull it off. Like a classic Disney villain, and it definitely adds to why Frieza is such an iconic Dragonball villain - iconic enough Super brought him back twice, and Cooler exists because Frieza was so popular.
I'd like Zamasu more if his logic wasn't so backwards. He suffers from the same problems Baby suffers from. They see themselves as the hero, but they behave like a villain. Arrogant, callous, cruel, sadistic, and smug. People who see themselves as the hero generally don't act that way - unless they are insane.
Fat Buu and Hercule/Mr. Satan have such good chemistry. They're my favorite duo in all of Dragon ball.
Your analysis of the evil men and the evil spreads analogy was incredible. Fantastic work!! This is my new favorite DBD video.
imagine if the godlike/semi omnicients characters like kaiosama/dende/piccolo would have been paying attention to buu and say "buu is good know, but 2 murders are getting close to him with guns". It would have taken a second for even yamcha to deal with the problem and avoid evil buu to appear.
Dende and piccolo are shown watching, but they weren't paying too much attention it to details, or maybe they wanted to see a dbz fight
See i like how this sweet story between satan and buu is undone by humans just as easily as it was saved by a human. Also the story satan reads to buu i had read to me as a child or at least a similar one and thats such a sad story
This video made me smile when you described how mr satan vs shooters was the best fight scene, and it was not because it was funny, great video!
Mr. Satan is best character in this arc and one of the best in the series.
Period.
The moments of Buu and Mr. Satan and Goku meeting Grandpa Gohan in the Red Ribbon Army saga are my favorites moments in the series.
Not the fighting or power ups.
I prefer this kind of stuff in Dragon Ball than what the series is famous for.
Thank you man.
You did a good work 👍😄
Bro honestly If this arc ended with mr.satan being friends with buu, best arc in the series
Its so good watching you having something good to say about DB for a change. This part is completely deserving and you nailed de analysis.
Love your work!
Buu is a strong and independent majin. He don't need no wizard!
Buu building a house reminded me of Cell making the tournament ring.
Yeah ! Except Cell didn't care a shit about anything else but his tournament...and waiting for it 9 days in a row while just standing in the middle of his ring, day and night, and doing absolutely nothing (no sleeping, no bathroom, etc...unlike Buu felt at least these very simple and natural little needs). But of course, the joke was Cell's an android so he obviously didn't need to sleep, eat, wash himself and go to the restroom, 'get it ? XD Nah ! Just kidding, I made this joke out of nothing...but that seemed realistic enough, 'right ? Well, actually Freeza didn't need anything else too while waiting for the Ginyu Forces in his god damn broken ship, and he's an alien, but he can breathe in space so let's just drop it, whatever...
This was the section that got me REALLY into Dragon ball back when it was airing on Toonami. I liked it before but this changed the way I saw the series. Still to this day I say this is up there as one of my favourite sections of all of DB.
This arc made me love Mr. Satan so much. There was this one ad for a DBZ gacha game, Dokkan Battle, that was all about how everyone can be a hero like him, even while scared and out of your league you are. Made me tear up a bit.
Mr. Satan is the hero of earth. Plus it's hilarious that, as a kid, I saw a show where the whole world was chanting "Satan! Satan!"
Unless I'm misremembering, I think the English Dub actually did change the story Mr. Satan was reading, making it a tragic war story that he reads and it kept the same joke of Boo laughing at it.
Oh, yeah. I watched the episode and Hercule is indeed reading a war story. After he finishes, Buu laughs and claps, saying "Buu like funny book!"
It's surprising to see Toriyama write something that feels closer to the DBZ anime filler arks than his usual frantic pacing. Maybe it's just because he wanted to do a few chapters fully focused on comedy?
This is one of my favourite DB Dissection episodes so far. The analysis is really good, and this little arc is also one of the best in the Buu saga.
Mr. Satan is one of the best characters of Dragon Ball.
You know, people talk about Futurama's dog, Seymour, and the emotional blow that is jurassic Bark fairly frequently... and with reason.
For how prevalent DB is in popular culture, the scenes with the dog (even if they manage to heal him by the end, you're not really sure about what's gonna happen the first time you watch it; because the purpose of killing the dog could just be the final trigger that would make Buu snap and bring hell to earth and just another bittersweet way of causing a final showdown) take a back seat compared to the freeza seconds, screams, etc.
Lance goes about it over and over, at its best DB has a great emotional core and it's a shame that it's been diluted lately. And in turn, that might have diluted the final product since perception sometimes rules the writting when you create for an "intended" audience.
When you have dogs in stories soully so you can have the villains of the story annihilate them just to show how evil they.
@@diegodankquixote-wry3242 JoJo moment
@@samueloak1600 funny thing is that people thought that Araki hated dogs when it was totally the opposite and he actually just wanted to have the villains do one of the most disgusting acts he could think of in your daily life
@@VICTORZITOSS Except for Kars
Always loved this section of the arc and the manga as a whole, the character dynamics are so good that it only gets better with age, it still feels distinctly fresh and modern. Really wish the rest of the main cast could have been integrated more neatly into the plot after this part.
Something else I love about the end of this mini-arc is that Boo's rage comes out because he can't stand the act of evil anymore. He's not just so angry that Evil Boo comes out of him, so far we've known that Boo is synonymous with evil pretty much - so now that he understands why killing is bad and has gained morals in truthfulness, that evil Boo, that side comes out of him because Boo truly is not a bad person anymore.
19 episodes and could we say this ismt even your final form?
Wow, your closing arguments from 23:59 onwards are just pure gold. Great!
Mistare Fusion, you probably won't see this, but I wonder how the story might've unfolded if Goku really did fuse with Hercule before Vegeta showed up since you pointed out how narratively strong and rich the Hercule and Buu dynamic is.
-Well we know that Gokule is basically Hercule, but with all of the power and understanding of Goku. So the fake world saviour and the real world saviour become one and Hercule gets the chance to personally save not only the world but also his dear Daughter and his precious friend Fat Buu.
-It just fits surprisingly well the more I think about it like the whole thing goes full circle. The Buu saga started with Gohan and Videl, but both of their Fathers' shadows loomed over them, and by the end, they both literally come together to save them.
-The fighting style would be pretty unique considering how underhanded Hercule is compared to the humble Goku, but we got some supplemental material to bridge that gap. But imagine SSJ Gokule going full-on Hulk Hogan on Super Buu.
-Vegeta probably would've still arrived, but more as backup and a straight man.
-In fact, once the other fighters get back on their feet from inside Buu, Hercule's treatment could change from an annoying hindrance, but as a member of the team after fighting side by side with some of the Z-Warriors and rescuing them.
- (Just thought of a scene where Hercule from the Gokule experience and has now come to respect Gohan due to Goku's memories and influence, convinces Gohan to change into the Great Saiyaman clothes as a superhero should and the Great Saiyaman gets some credit with Hercule in the public eye. This is just Gohan no longer mimicking others, but fighting as himself)
-We could even see Hercule re-evaluate the ways he views Martial Arts and restore the Budokai Tournament to its roots and former glory, but now better than ever.
-Heck, imagine Tien acts like Hercule's bodyguard for the rest of the Kid Buu fight since he can't really help much any other way and afterward, they form a partnership with that goal of restoring the world martial arts spirit in mind by Tien making Hercule's dojos more authentic
-One person making a difference in the world is the message the Buu Saga then sends, loud and clear.
Back in the day I watched these episodes of the anime over and over again. The point where Buu decides not to kill anymore was the best, with Mr. Satan truly being a hero. Indeed unlike anything in Dragon Ball at that point. Goku did have a similar effect on some former bad guys, but more in an indirect way.
I’ve always liked this part of the story, but I don’t think I truly appreciated it enough prior to your breakdown of it. This might be one of my favorite installments of DBD yet.
I feel like the rest of the arc doesn't really betray or break the emotion and intent of these chapters. The pacing might've been bad in taking too long, but the point keeps being repeated, I think. After this, the heroes will get new powerups, new fusions, new techniques, desperate moves, more and more ways to fight. And Buu will beat every single thing. And in the end it'll be none of those techniques winning the day, but Mr. Satan asking for the help of the entire planet, ending with the coda of Goku giving Buu a chance at redemption when he asks for the Uub reincarnation. I don't know if it was Toriyama's intention from the start, but I do think it's intended that most of this arc ends up boiling down to almost a take down of Dragonball itself- that all the fighting in the world can't do as much as one man growing beyond his own petty insecurities and scheming and lies and instead befriending the villain and befriending the heroes.
Thank you for giving this scene the respect it deserves! Forget being underrated, this segment of the show almost seems totally forgotten to the general public. It's my favorite part of this arc and IMO one of the best things in the whole series. And it's what gives you that payoff at the end with Satan saving the world.
It's because long sections like this aren't conducive to video game adaptations, so they are frequently abridged, glossed over or just omitted entirely. Parts of the Saiyan Saga suffer in much the same way. Over time people who mainly interact with spin-off media have forgotten stuff like this, so it's fallen out of the fandom discourse in spite of its potency.
Usually it’s the heroes, backed into a corner, benefiting from an ass pull transformation. In this case, the writer himself is forced to give one to his villain, for the benefit of the writer himself, after he backed himself into a corner by basically neutralizing the villain’s villainy in the middle of the arc.
what I love so much about this part and how pays off in the end is that feeling that Mr Satan is probably the only character that could ever do this, that because he did the things he did the world was saved, not because goku or anyone learned how to do a bigger explosion, yes it ends with a big explosion but it only is possible because of Satan and humanity as a whole choosing to believe and help, man the buu arc has such good themes and moments, but it feels like toriyama just couldn write anything for the main cast
I love this section of the story so much buu warms my heart