Stay With Us: Evangelizing the Disaffiliated
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- Опубликовано: 25 ноя 2024
- Friends, among the largest problems within the Church today is the massive disaffiliation of our own people, especially the young. In this lecture for the University Series, I reflect on the religiously unaffiliated by answering these three essential questions:
Who are the “nones"?
Why are they leaving?
How do we get them back?
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The intellectual side of catholicism is what drew me from a protestant background to coming into full communion this coming Easter. Hard to argue when the facts are so convincing.
I never left the church, I thank God
for my mom, grand parents for their
faith and how it affected my entire fam. Praise the Lord!!
God bless parents and grandparents that live out their faith. A wise Lutheran pastor told me that faith is caught and not taught! Right teaching is important but more important is to let your light shine before all.
why doen`t trinity never mentioned in bible,
I believe Bishop Barron is doing God’s will. Ever since I started following the Bishop, I have been going to mass more and studying to evangelize. Keep up the good work, Bishop Barron. We are listening and acting. Thank you.
How can teaching that Jesus is not required for salvation (in this life) be "doing God's will'? Just how can that be?
@@davidbeal8054 your statement is provoking. I have not finished the video, but I'm curious where the bishop makes the statement that you assert, namely: Jesus not required for salvation.
bishop Barron has a pretty famous (notorious) video in which hw explains at some length to an on-screen questioner that faith in Jesus as our Redeemer is not the only way to Heaven but merely "the privileged way." Jesus said, "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life; and no one gets to My Father, but through me." That's as far as I can tell still Catholic doctrine.
Now, I don't doubt that Jesus Christ has the power and the Mercy to allow non-Christians into Paradise. But how He chooses to do that is one of the Mysteries of the eternal + Universal Judeo-Christian God. And given the Catechism and the Magisterium, it is unclear how a mere bishop can go around assuring non-Christians "Don't worry; you can still get into Heaven." That's not a bishop's business.
This argument, often referred to as "bishop Barron's privileged way", is one of the reasons why many traditional Catholics do not hold the bishop in any high esteem. (There are other reasons.). bishop Barron likes to limit his teaching to the Nice Guy/Wise Teacher version of Jesus. Jesus Christ was both those things, but He was primarily the Redeemer-Messiah-Son of God. --- and faith and salvation is a treasure beyond measure, but at a price. Part of the price is saying things not everyone will like (such as "Jesus is THE WAY not the privileged way.). Barron is just one of so many contemporary bishops who clearly prefer being popular over being strict about what the Bible, the Magisterium, and the Catechism teach. Or, what the Apostles and early Disciples understood and taught. Whadd'ya think Saint Paul would have thought about the phrase, "Jesus is the privileged way"?
I encourage you to watch that video; it's very easy to find. Judge it against what you know to be Catholic. -- not against what you think is nice. For 2,000 years it has been well understood that being nice to sinners, and nothing more, can be a nice + wide path to Hell. When Jesus encountered sinners, He did forgive their sins. But He also said very clearly, "Go, and sin NO MORE." People who preach only the Nice Guy/Wise Teacher version of Jesus, like to leave that second part out.
@@davidbeal8054 I suspected your initial comment was a snipe.
I saw a video a while back where the Bishop answered this question. The context I recall was not an "evangelical" assurance to non-Christians, but an answer to a questioning person's inquiry about how our God can be a loving God, yet doom all non-Christians to Hell because of their birth situation.
That video was from the Word on Fire channel. I'll try to go back & watch again, but I can't inventory all his videos and find one where he preaches to non-Christians that they'll go to heaven.
I don't get the basis for your third long paragraph. Clearly you didn't watch this video.
My understanding -- substantiated in this video, your snipe op -- is that the Bishop's primary mission is oriented to 1) retaining the Catholic young people educated in modern schools and 2) drawing the _nones_ in. It would be -inappropriate- _ineffective_ for him to *lead* with the Magisterium.
I'm not going to change your dim view of Bishop Barron. I suggest solve the disagreement this way: You draw to Christ as many non-believers as you can. Let the Bishop draw to Christ as many non-believers as he can.
In the end, you both will have done your level best to fulfill your commission.
May I suggest, though, you develop techniques other than sniping at believers that you don't like. Internal divisiveness is one of the things that really turns people off from religion.
Good on ya, Jason! I didn't learn my lesson until I was nearly 50 about how critical it is to keep oneself oriented to God. _(from an ex 30+-year atheist)_
I am Catholic now, but I was an atheist until my mid-twenties, then went through a “spiritual but not religious” phase. This led me start looking into various faith traditions, including Buddhism, Islam, and various Christian traditions. I had been evangelized to by various protestant denominations, with all their threats of hell and promises of the great things I would get if I joined their church, and it completely turned me off. I sat down with a Catholic priest, and told him all the reasons I would never want to be Catholic and was just hoping to learn. He gave me some reading suggestions and told me a list of all of the things I would have to do if I was interested. It was the first time any faith had said “I’m not trying to talk you into joining, and if you are ever interested, you’ll have to do all of these things first.” I was intrigued. It was a long road into the Church from there, but that was where it started. I went through RCIA with a group of folks in their late teens and twenties. It seemed that they were afraid to ask questions. For me it was a serious thing, and I asked some pretty heavy questions. I never had a question that didn't get an answer that was better than I expected (even if some of them took some time to sink in). I don't think the Church discourages questions, but people don't want to be rude or seem like outsiders, so they keep their doubts to themselves right out of the faith. The Church could do a better job of encouraging questions and destigmatizing doubt, especially among the young.
bless you, its ppl like you that make ppl like me
Biblical christianity is coming to jesus NOT a tradition. there is no perfect christian organization. THERE IS A PERFECT SAVIOR and the Scripture. people who try and join the right church to fit their taste and liking are missing JESUS and his word
Send your children to parochial school.
@@flamingrobin5957 hi, since the Catholic Church gathered up the various scripture verses in the late 300' s after the Roman Empire persecutions to form the Bible, then wrote it by hand for another thousand years for each community to have a copy( one steer would provide about 16pages), we teach and affirm the Bible. Without the Eucharistic meal, people could stay home and read the Bible, but that would deny John 6, where Jesus claims you must eat His flesh to obtain eternal life. The Protestant churches broke over Henry VIII & Luther letting Greman dukes multiple marriages.GBY
@@dan69052 Is it wrong to cheat on one's spouse? Even if you have hormones and an attraction? Even if this other person is totally your type and your attraction is predetermined? I won't get into any argument with you about sexuality, where and when it is formed and etc, because I think it's far too simplistic either to call it a choice or determined entirely in the womb. What I will say is that I disagree strongly that right or wrong is predetermined by our natural desires and attractions. I am attracted to and have a natural proclivity for a great many things that would be terrible for me and those I love - that in no way releases me from any moral obligation to practice self-control in those areas. You have better arguments to choose from.
Finding Bishop Barron brought me back after nearly a decade. He’s answered many of the questions and concerns I had. I listen to him on RUclips almost daily.
I'm a 61 year old Catholic, my father always used to say to me, look to God he is the one that will look after you, through my teens and early 20's and beyond I did what I wanted to do, after my divorce 37 years, I looked to God and you know what God was there to pick me up and move me forward, but you have to tell God your all in.
Yes, I second that. That was my experience too... that He wants you to be all in.
I've been a subscriber since the 1st Covid lockdown & I get the daily readings, sermons & books sent to me Co.Cork, Ireland
I feel so blessed listening to Bishop Barron's words of wisdom, your research into the readings & gospels, that I would never understand on my own! Thank you from the bottom of my heart for all the hard work you put into evangelising ! If Covid did nothing else, it helped me find the Word on Fire 🔥
May God bless you all as you continue to save souls! 🙏
I am from Tipperary and understand so much more from listening to the bishops sermons.
Bishop Barron, Thank you for your words on Disaffiliation, I belong to a Bible group lead by a Catholic evangelist Kerry Bueche. Your homily had helped me to see how I can discuss my Catholic faith with my grandchildren.
I was brought up catholic but left years ago for some of the reasons Bishop Barron mentioned but especially because I felt spirituality couldn't be found in catholicism. I have stumbled opon many of Bishop Barron's videos, his knowledge of religion, philosophy and his understanding of my generation in regards to religion, spirituality etc. has shed light on misconceptions I had. I have been doing some of my own searching and slowly but surly, I'm coming back by my own choice.
Coincidentally - read St.Teresa of Avila.
My story is similar to yours, and I found myself reaching out to my old church this Christmas Day, may we strengthen with the Holy Spirit on our journey home.
to God be the glory
@@sataystick3937 indeed
Welcome home.
I grew up in a family that said the family rosary every night and daily Mass was encouraged. All four of my siblings have stayed faithful.
Bishop Barron has a special gift in welcoming the alienated back to the Catholic Church
I would also say that Catholic parents need to step up too. One reason I became disaffiliated was because of my parents- they couldn't answer some of my questions and I had one parent become disaffiliated too. I realize not everyone has great, stand-up parents but for those of us who have a relationship with them I wish they did more at the time. This will no doubt become a generational thing in the future- those who are not affiliated will have kids who won't even have the chance to really get involved with the religion in begin with.
Perhaps God gave YOU to your parents to lead THEM TO CHRIST! I'LL be praying for you
Wow.... this is amazing content for all those who want to do something but don't know what and how to help our youth into faith. Thank you "Word on Fire Institute", and thank you, Bishop Barron.
Brilliant. You got me back in spite of the whole Boston thing. I have seen a miracle. BB's mind is amazing. So quick.
Thank you Bishop Barron I do really appreciate this talk. I pray for you and your ministry. I'm from India I would love of Bishops from India to have this very promising kind of presence in media to all our youngsters who stay away from faith life in the catholic churches.
Pray and bless us your children
Thank you
Please talk to your Bishops and priests in India
You have plenty of them on the internet. 😀🙏
I was an atheist then I met someone who loved me as I was, gave me the freedom to ask questions. The intellectual was really important. Especially reading CS Lewis, Chesterson, then Augustine. Also I am an artist and the Church has art hands down.
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My parents had be baptized when I was a baby but then left the church, this year I rejoined the church on my own and just did my confirmation, I have never been happier
I am so happy you have found your way back to our Catholic family. God speed.
I was brought up a loose Protestant hardly ever attending church just occasionally. I can say that praying for the agnostics is one the best thing to help draw people in . I found Christians coming into my life of all denominations at important stages I would imagine through someones prayers. I became a Catholic later in life , when I was introduced to the Rosary it had a big impact on me. I think good Christians can bring people to faith just by prophecying Christianity in everyday life. I had tried Scientology, Budhism and Hinduism. Only Christianity specifically Catholisism spoke to me and offered real hope. I think the Bible taught more in Schools and more Bible study for Catholic Children is needed. We can go to Mass or a Service and not understand the Significance of Prayers, the Eucharist, the Bible readings if we dont understand the Bible. I think the thing that keeps and grows faith in other religions such as Judaism, Islam and some Christian Churches is the Study of the Holy Books daily. We miss that with once a week Mass attendance and families taking kids to Church only for Baptism and Confirmation, I see this practice a lot. Being told to read the Youcat instead of the Catechism doesnt help, its like you say people want the real books not the Comicl books. I must say a Jehovas Witness showed me their online app with Daily Bible passages and its impressive.. My Parish has many reading the tri monthly Magnificat Booklet and its an essential for Mass attenders especiallly Daily Mass attenders.
I admire Bishop Barron. I am grateful for his talks. He has helped me delve deeper into my own faith through daily reflections. He is my inspiration and source of encouragement in my daily healing meditation practice which I tried to share with my family and friends for their own healing process. Please continue your great work, Bishop Barron. Thank you.
Bishop Barron, I think you have hit the nail on the head.. As mom of four kids two now young adults men 21 and 18 and two girls 15 and 9. I have been asking the boys to help me learn so I can reach out to them then in turn the older ones reach out to others but I do ask them to read the Bible to sign up online sessions that our diocese is offering. Asking them to challenge and come out of our comfort zones. Thank you for your guidance. Yes praying for them each day. Holy Spirit is definitely working through each one of us. I am talking from that experience of having a Son who is beginning to separate himself from our Catholic faith. I tell him. I love you and I will be that St. Monica praying for my Augustine in each of you. Go search within our Catholic Church the truth give yourself an opportunity. Don’t just go without actually doing the footwork. Thank you. I have shared it with my nieces and nephews. Also
Shingles is awful. Been there, done that. My pastor had it too and still traveled back and forth to Chicago because he was trying to help a lot of us get back on our feet after physical health disability. He's a saint! God bless you, Bishop Barron. God bless Father Dietrich, as well.
I wanted to get up from my chair and cheer when Bishop Barron denounced the dumbing down of the faith. I disaffiliated for some years until engaging with the Church intellectually brought me back. Finally learning what I refer to as the "Why's" behind Catholicism not only brought me back, but made me enthusiastic and eager to learn more.
"Nothing in the Bible ever happens outside of Prayer." - Bishop Robert Barron
You misplaced your period, should have been right after the word "happens".
@@JayBandersnatch
Outside of prayer, nothing in the Bible ever happens☆
@@marypinakat8594 sorry, what I meant was: "Nothing in the bible ever happens."
@@JayBandersnatch
What makes you think that I didn't get what you meant?
@@marypinakat8594 I actually did think you knew what I meant and was being witty, so I responded back half as witty as you did. 😎
I have observed the amazing increase of young people's attendance in the traditional Latin Masses! Thanks be to God!
I am a firm believer in the Catholic Tradition. Please don’t be offended by my statement Bishop, but I am very surprised at your attitude Re: the Latin Mass, I was a follower of you for a long time, but now I am turned off by your latest attitude. Christ taught us the Truth and it cannot be changed. If you have changed, and by your attitude I believe you have, my prayers are for your conversion back to Christ’s Truths. God bless you and keep you safe.
@karen so has the traditional movement. They're exploding in attendance during the COVID pandemic.
@@louisehuberty490 my problem with the latin mass is that it is in latin. why would it be latin and only latin? mass is only interesting to people and believable to people if they can understand it. if they can't understand it they will leave in many cases.
@@louisehuberty490 Would you please clarify what changes you have experienced with Bishop Barron? I will pray for you, that you stay strong and faithful.
Beautiful talk your grace, John Polkinghorne was someone I encountered right at the height of the new atheist evangelisation. He demonstrated to me the synthesis between faith and reason. This exchange inspired me to read theology at university, and now I'm training for the priesthood in the Church of England. Sadly, I have heard that John Polkinghorne has passed away yesterday. His son gifted me with a stole once owned by John Polkinghorne, and I shall wear it for first mass when it comes, God willing. May he rest peace, and rise in glory.
Thank you for heeding your call sir to the priesthood. You are one of the chosen ones to minister to this world. Praying for you.
Thanks for your journey! Who knows if the Church of England could one day be again with us. Even so, God bless your paths, my friend! From a Brazilian 🇧🇷 catholic.
Oh, God rest his soul! I was raised Anglican before converting to Catholicism after an fairly long journey through the "none-ish" territory. I loved Polkinghorne's work on how science and religion are totally compatible. I referred people to him a lot ! He debated Richard Dawkins once and he was so filled with joy, especially given the juxtaposition of Dawkins, that even before listening to the arguments I feel you were inclined to want to be like Polkinghorne between the two, and then he had the intellectual and logical chops to make the better case. He was a great man. I will add him to my prayers.
It is joyful to hear your story. Thank you. You are blessed.
Thank you Bishop Barron, praying the Holy Rosary with you is a journey of love through all the Mysteries it contemplates. Your meditation before each Mystery brings me closer and closer to Jesus and to His Mother, our Mother. May God keep blessing you through His Holy Spirit in each one of your programs and give you a long life of teaching so we can grow a little bit more with each one of your wonderful messages. May our Blessed Mother cover you always with Her Motherly Mantle. 🙏
In these very dark times, Bp Barron provides great aids to faith and hope. Thank you Bishop from rural England within sight of the great spire of Salisbury Cathedral
Thank you Bishop Barron for this guidance. I am a catechist for teen Confirmation and your presentation can help me make it meaningful for the candidates. You will help me inspire candidates with the treasures of our faith!
Dear Bishop, I thank God for the gift of socialmedia and the internet because through these I am able to watch and listen and interact with you.
God bless Bishop Barron. He helps me in my walk with Jesus.
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It is certainly a 'good news' that Bishop Barron thinks, and thinks hard at that, and is also seeking ways and means to salvage. God bless him with knowledge and wisdom☆
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The thing that made me convert was the reverence and mystery. Catholicism in movies is always shown with incense, icons, statues, beautiful architecture, chanting, Latin and just overwhelming mystery, compared to the Protestantism I was used to.
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@@blackfalkon4189 there was a ton of that stuff in Jesus time. Did you read the Old Testament ? All the Jewish temples of Jesus time and before we’re decked out in gold, used liturgical incense, and used tons of sacred symbolic architecture. Plus they had the golden cherubim statues and stuff like that. Catholicism is very much the continuation of OT Judaism
@Lucid. Agreed. The traditional movements have exploded in attendance (especially the young families) during the COVID pandemic. They never knew such beauty is still alive and thriving.
I went to a bar mitsfa. And they had a tabernacle with the logos, the word ,in it.... the Torah!!!! And we have the tabernacle with the word, the logos, made flesh!!!!!’
Amen
I must agree with you Bishop, that EXPERIENCING the faith is a very good start - both for passive Catholics as well as those who have left the Church. Getting involved in HELPING others in any way, opens the heart, and then the mind will seek answers. I am a very good example of that, and I was able to understand my faith (grew up in a very passive Catholic home) by practically repeatedly watching almost all WOF videos since way back 2010. Eventually I was drawn to the Eucharist, and can never thank you enough for that. Thank you so much Bishop.
Being a Protestant for so many years not being taught the truth about the Eucharist, yet finally realizing when Jesus says THIS ISMYBODY And BLOOD that’s exactly what He meant. I praise the Lord,for HIS TRUTH . GOD is so faithful. I am so grateful for men of GOD like you and brother Tom Nash , so 0:15 humbly speaking TRUTH so clearly . I am now by GODS GRACE And MERCY A JOYFUL CATHOLIC BELIEVER. WHEN ONE is OPEN to the TRUTH, GOD REVEALS TRUTH. 😊🙏
As a ordained minister I appreciate what Bishop Barron says. He is a very highly educated individual. Whenever he speaks, people will listen. I thoroughly enjoy the dialogue and communication that he provides to all of us throughout the world. We are in a battle of Flesh versus spirit. We were given Free Will and that is why we have so many problems today. Lack of proper morals and values from the parents and also social media causing many emotional and mental health issues. This was written in Psychology today magazine. What needs to happen is God needs to be back where he belongs, number one in our life. We need to think of him and not ourselves. Reverend Timothy Michael
This was a powerful question & answer.. The questioner presented issues that all of us are thinking about, and Bishop Barron offered such good responses where he could. The pursuit of holiness requires vigilance at every level: in the heart of the individual and in the body of the church. Keep pressing on. Thank you for the response concerning Saints versus roles of Authority. Jesus did not hold a role of authority on earth, but obviously his influence was profound. Prayers and blessings.
Fantastic episode Bishop Barron, thank you! I'll admit, I'm not the best Catholic. In fact, I suck at it...Lord please don't give up on me! I guess my biggest issue with the church over the years was my conflict not so much with God, but with the man-made institution. I've seen so much anger, hate, ostracism, corruption, and of course, scandal. There were times when certain parishioners would rub me the wrong way with their "holier than thou" attitude, as if they were certain of "guaranteed entrance" into heaven when they die. But, I kept coming back to the church, and still come back because I have no issues with Jesus. Jesus shouldn't have to pay the price for knucklehead humans. If I turn away, then I fail to follow my Lord's commandment to love one another, and I don't want to fail Him anymore.
Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, please have mercy on me, for I am a sinner.
Even tho I’m an Anglican I thank God for bishop Barron and his messages for all of us. God bless him.
Great Bishop, I am always reminded of the great Fulton Sheen each time I listen to your teachings
Thanking God for all gifts given you Bishop Barron as you unselfishly use them to Help us understand our Catholic truths and teachings... listening to always leaves me enlightened strengthened enabled and joyful ...may the Lord continue to supply the grace you need for this wonderful ministry.
Yes! Bishop Barron is so sincere and on target in his recommendations. It was the kindness ( charitable attitude) of a white male parishioner and beauty ( incense, etc.) of a Holy Mass at Langley AFB that drew me, a 4 1/2 year Afr American girl to my aunt's religion, Catholicism, at the age of 4 1/2. I was smitten when the male parishioner put a beautiful chrysanthemum on my little dress coat. It was the beauty of the miniature plastic cathedral that my aunt had brought from Spain, where her husband had been stationed. And the lovely mantillas she wore to church. Finally, the children's catechism type books that I obtained from her and started reading at age 8. Charity/ social justice, beauty, and clear, non-diluted, Catholic catechism is what attracts even the very young. And, not the least attractive is the mission to truly evangelize, and not just in CCD and trips to Haiti. No true mission in our community ( outside outside of food pantries, etc.), no true church.
Well done Bishop Barron. I just thank God that I hail from a country where it's unheard-of to be non-religious.
Where are you from?
@@ChowMan144 perhaps India and poking a nose on the good Bishop Barron?
Praise the Lord Jesus Christ 🙏 Mother Mary Pray For Us 🙏Abba Father Bless us and we Adore You 🙏Holy Spirit Guide us and direct our paths 🙏
Love the man whose asking Bishop the questions, God bless him
I'm a Catholic since birth,but I got really nvolved in church activities in my 20's thru Bro Joe Rona"s Mariology classes. Yes, you are right Bishop,one has to live the life of a faith community in order to learn & love it.But here in the Philippines,many innocent youngsters even from parish youth org have been recruited quicklyby by very radical people bec they have seen so much social injustice. These youths are not only from poor families but also from wealthy ones, from private Catholic universities. Many of them carry arms hiding in mountains.They have become disrespectful of their parents bec of so much radicalism. But I still believe God sees all of these events, I just pray that all Filipinos will find in their hearts real forgiveness & start knowing Him, thru Jesus Christ, bec only then can we find true peace, goodness and beauty in life.
I grew up Catholic but I wasn’t Cathecised well. Not until my divorce, and my children became adults and left the church did I start searching for answers. My children would ask me questions about the church and I had no answers. So I started praying and asking God to help me. I started listening to EWTN and GRN on the radio. Mother Angelica helped me so much to understand the church. All the hosts on EWTN radio taught me so much and informed me about the church. I went to a retreat at the shrine in Alabama that mother Angelica founded and the priest there were so amazing . This place was a big part of my mind and heart opening up to learning more about being a Catholic. I think if all our priest were like the priest in Alabama shrine our our young would not leave the church.
I think we all need to be accountable as well in wanting to find those answers. Some of us are not ready or willing to say Gods will not my will. I didn’t realize that’s what I was doing when I wanted to do things my way not the churches way. I just thought how can so many people be wrong. I had to look at myself and make choices that were not popular. Thank you Fr Barron. I pray for you and all our priests.
Thank you very much. Though we are many catholics here that overflows the cathedral during masses. I am one of many that try to find meaning to why we do what we do. My grandma answered all my questions. So i stayed and continue to love our faith. ☺ ❤ from philippines
to God be all the glory.
Need more priests enthusiastic and have a passion for the church just like you Father Barron
Thanks Bishop Barron! Very insightful, as usual!😊
I will stay with you.pleaae stay with me Bishop Barron.
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I wish we could attend a Mass where we could sing joyful songs raise our hands I praise.
I do were I go to mass.
Bishop, with your explanations, now I understand Mrs. Imelda Marcos from my native country when she said "arts and beauty" are important. I could not quote the entirety of her statements about beauty and arts but since she is a very devout Christian Catholic (who I always see holding the Holy Rosary), I am carried by your explanations about our traditions to believe Imelda's belief in arts and beauty. Thank you for all your presentations, beautiful way to evangelize. I hope Cardinal Tagle won't mind if I say, may Bishop Barron be on line to be our dearest Pope!
I can't summon enough compliments to express my utter wonder and delight with this sermon. So ably wrought, compellingly delivered. I could almost believe again. But Bishop Barron is himself like a cathedral to me. I claim him as a magnificent part of my cultural Christian heritage. If Carl Sagan had believed in God, I would have joined him in a leap of faith, but not the case, and all Bishop Barron's formidable intellect and charisma are in the shadow of this extraordinary human who could actually see the cosmos in his mind. Love Robert Barron. Wish only he could have been one of many theologians and clergy who dined at Sagan's table to share ideas, engage in convivial mutual respect
why doen`t trinity never mentioned in bible,
Bishop Baron thank you for your witness and spiritual guidance. I 🙏for you to continue your work
I’d love to share my testimony with you, Bishop. I was once a youth that placed my faith in science and, 20 years later, I’ve finally come home because my soul was famished. How can I be of service to the work you do?
What a testimony!!!
Share your story, Cassie! Would you like to be a guest speaker for our Women's WorkLight group?
Faith and science? Do those two really go together?
@@ding9633 Hello! Hope life finds you well :)
I would say in one respect Faith and Science have different goals.
Science is tasked with answering questions of how things work and what they are made of. Even if we want to go to the big questions - how was the universe made. How did humans come to exist.
Faith on the other hand seeks answers to “why” questions. Why does the universe exist? Why were humans made? Why do I exist? Why is there something rather than nothing?
Although these affairs are different, I would say they depend on each other.
Science proceeds down the road with the assumption that things can be known. That there is an orderly universe with “laws” established about how the universe works. These rules don’t change haphazardly from day to day. It also travels on the assumption that there is something meaningful and good about finding out how things work and how to make life better.
But Faith recognizes the order and organization and predictably of the universe and says why is it so? Why would such a universe exist? Why would all this exist if there wasn’t some purpose? And if there is some purpose and intelligibility, then doesn’t they point to the possibility of something that created it? And if so, do we also recognize other “laws” - not physics and such but natural laws about what it means to be a human with a life. Things like “life is precious and should be protected especially from malevolence. Murder is evil. That evil exists. That people are susceptible to moral corruption. That we do not find meaning and value and purpose from looking within.
Would love to hear your thoughts on these beginning comments.
I have to admit that Bishop Barron's online work has reinvigorated my faith. I agree that the lack of intellectual rigour in my own Catholic education left me ill equipped to argue my faith with my non believing friends.
Way to go Bishop Robert Barron! I haven't listened to you in while. I think the Holy Spirit has really worked on you. Bishop go and pray at a Latin Mass. There is so much beauty and truth there. There should not be any alter girls, bring our bells back, priest back to us. I have a lot of ideas on ideas on how to bring the 2 back together. I am praying for y'all. Continue to come out and say it. Don't be afraid, praying for you to have courage. I need it, too. Okay, y'all get a Douay-Rheims Bible and the Catechism. Yes,, there is something missing, it is the curriculum! I started homeschooling. Seton Home study is top notch! It is outstanding. Love it. I also like Mother of Devine Grace. That is what we all need to study again. You can take 4th grade again at 50. Take a class through Seton...go to your beginning. Teach yourself to grow food and make your own food. That keeps us close to our Lord, too. We are co-creators in the mystery of life. Again, Bishop Barron great job!
Bishop Barron is working hard to do for his mission straighten the relation of people to heavenly FATHER BACK TO GOD,cause we know some are all doing pleasures only far to God, Bishop Barron is always busy for the LORD, not too late to listen to him,God bless...
I love Word on Fire's materials and community. Very helpful for evangelizing within parishes.
why doen`t trinity never mentioned in bible,
Bless you Father, these issues are mind numbing, but necessary... Pray, too, for us. Pax Christi.
Great talk! Barron convinced me that evangelization is a priority.
This is excellent. Thank you Bishop Barron.
The rise in "nones" is excellent news, it means that people are learning to reason and not accept things are true simply because someone says it's true. It also means that more individuals will receive equal rights and humans will start being treated humanely.
Thank god for atheism!
This has been very interesting. I think a lot about how to re-engage my 20 something children with matters of the soul, prayer connection with God. My husband and I grew up through the 60’s and 70’s when all authority was questioned and cynicism was all the rage and I’ve always felt that that era posed the greatest threat to organized religion. I still feel it very deeply today in that any one who bought in to anti establishment thinking raises an eyebrow when I tell them that I go to Mass every Sunday. I’m an outlier, un-intellectual. They are amazed. I believe that the children of these boomers have mostly certainly been influenced by the attitudes of their parents.
Bishop Brown The solution is within the selection of priests, should be quality not quantity. Minimally, they should be friends of our community. You know this first hand father. I am in a poor South American Country and I could see first hand how priests that are simply friends move mountains. Down here we move mountains with details. Father, it is really simple. This is from a "fool for Christ". You are looking at this intellectually, dumbing down, you are reducing this intellectually because you are an intellectual. How about teaching catechism with priests and others who simply love. We don't know our religion. It is not in Aquinas but on who teaches it, who lives it. You are an intellectual who lives your Faith and that is why I love listening to you. Thank you Father.
Bishop Barron, I so appreciate your comment on your argument to embrace our "beauty of the Faith"! We were stationed in Italy for the US Navy in Napoli. We visited Roma over 8 times. Florence (Firenze), Venice (Venezia), and Bologna. We dedicated our visits to seeing the Catholic sites...the cathedrals...having confession actually offered in English! I would watch my wife in wonder as she prayed at each location...to visit the St. John Lateran...St. Peter's Basilica, St. Paul Outside the Walls, St. Mary Major (my personal favorite)...I just hope people can have these same opportunities...
As always you're deeply inspiring Bishop Barron, thanks and God bless! In minute 22:22 when you talk about "there's something about participating in the works of justice...that has an evangelizing power..." I couldn't help but think of Ephesians 2:10 - "For we are his handiwork, created in Christ Jesus for the good works that God has prepared in advance, that we should live in them." which we read today in the fourth Sunday of Lent (3/14/21).
The most brilliant pastoral discourse he has ever given to date hands down.
Thank you Bishop! We shouldn’t always take the poll respondents’ objections or answers as the final word. People will use any argument to keep God at arms’ length, in some cases. Modern people want comfort & safety. The church needs to talk about sin, salvation & reconciliation with God. These are the themes & methodologies used by Jesus.
Good point, I tend to agree with you, in fact I am a little concerned that the Bishop is concerned about the numbers game and how to win friends and influence people.
I'm an Anglican, but I have watched a few of Bishop Brennan's videos. It's the first time I've ever seen a Bishop 2ho can really connect with people (no disrespect) i look forward to watching more. Also, the fact he is from the US, (I'm British) adds a bit to it. I very much like his style which I find quite refreshing.
Perhaps knowing the exact cause of a problem is half way into solving it, and it is indeed relieving that Bishop Barron has a first-hand knowledge of the *'reasons' which people project,* as for their disaffiliating.
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I would run through a brick wall for Bishop Barron. He busts his butt and I respect that!
This massive disaffiliation started happening when the modernism of Vatican II started picking up, ideas like “Hell is empty”, “The Catholic Church is the ‘preferred’ path”. But we know what MUST be done, we MUST go back to the teachings of THE CHURCH, and I pray for our clergy’s conversion every day.
@@elizabethkraszewski6603 I’m more and more convinced the future of The Church is on the laity’s hands, we have to start teaching our children and maybe in one generation or two, we’ll start seeing The Church coming back.
A group that teaches an immensely unpopular sexual philosophy but at the same time refused to let pedophiles be prosecuted for decades.
Gee, I wonder why people leave it.
51:15 Bishop Barron, i am a huge fan of your work. You were one of the main forces that drew me back into the church after being a lapsed catholic for almost all my life.
You can substitute the response you give at this time stamp with what peoples concerns are with removing the Tridentine mass. I know people get angry and vitriolic about this topic over RUclips, but the concern comes from a very serious place. One could ask why is Gregorian chant, one of the most beautiful gems of the church, nowhere to be found in the modern church. Most young catholics have never even heard of it.
I understand, and very much agree, the Tridentine mass is not a panacea to fix every problem, but my goodness people are starving for beauty and transcendence, and it has a direct affect on their belief system.
I will follow your work now and always, my first time reading straight through the gospels was with the WoF bible. I don't bring this topic up in anger or an attacking spirit, just one revert who found their way back through you and then through the Tridentine mass.
A few years ago at the beginning of my college years, the availability of all the true, catholic teachings that Bishop Barron provided really drew me back into learning and increasing in my faith! Dumbed down faith was boring! I’m so glad that I went searching deeper!
Second comment: the less connected people are to their church community the less connected they are to receiving the resources that they need to recover from illness or go back to work and stay connected to Life long health and happiness. Especially Family Services.
Yes, and people are becoming more and more isolated, not just from Church, but smaller families, broken families, a lot of people don’t even know the names of their neighbors
I think it's a big help to get young people involved in Christian Social Justice - Get them involved in St Vincent DePaul, Homeless shelters, food banks, Habitat for Humanity - these organizations expose them to many believers.
I’m a catholic and I believe strongly .
The church needs to serve its people educate offer studies unite not only the young but the entire community.
There is very little offered in the communities . What is offered outside of communities requires to be able to buy the education action . It has become a “ business”
My sophomore went to her first Confirmation activity held inside the parish this week, since the pandemic. She was excited to see friends whom she hadn’t seen since last year. When I asked her about the talk, she said “they didn’t talk about something that I don’t already know.” My student is actively engaged in her faith as it is but what about those who already feel disaffiliated? I think we have to train our Catechists to cite more real life experiences when teaching about the faith that our teens and young adults could relate to.
It sounds as if your Sophmore would enjoy getting intellectually stimulated by her elders.
The saying "I can't hear what your saying as your actions are speaking louder." comes to mind. Great point in speaking as St Thomas Aquinas would, and appeal to intellectual and speaking of altruism of the Church. Great stuff Fr!
Thank you Bishop. I feel one of the tried and tested ways to get young people attention is to speak and live the way our Lord did... I mean the shock value our Lord uses when engaging with people. Ofcourse we need Holy Spirit to guide us
Reconnected with my faith recently and im so glad i did.
Thank you very much for this talk. I really liked it and agree with all of it. I have grown children and nieces and nephews who are "nones." Other than praying for them, I am stumped on how to approach them on this subject. Social justice teaching by our Church might be the door to discussion. Thanks again, and God be with you.
Your presentation was very interesting and offered a lot of ideas to bring people back into the church as well as bringing in new converts. The question and answer session was wonderful. Thank you.
Bishop, you say we must exit the Church to Evangelize however Catholics are not trained (as Protestants) well on how to Evangelize. Your 3 points on how to reach out to the "none" is spot on.
;Bishop Barron you are great to be. paying attention to every ptoblem aff.ecting the Church ...and for teaching us to be aware of intelligently following religion, to be reasonable and having some foundation in our hectic lives. We need Christ and His teaching. Yes true the Church has become stale and uncaring.....the young people are still reaching out for intelligent answers and you Bishop Barron are committed to solving these issues among our you. Many tks!
A wonderful quote:. "Justice, is love in public".........💓
Adult baptized in the Catholic Church who for many years now has chosen a different path. When attending Mass, I would feel like a hypocrite because I did not believe in the main tenants of the Church. And they were the “Big Ones”. Transubstantiation, veneration and praying to Mary, the so called Sacraments other
than Baptism and the Eucharist, the Church Hierarchy, the denial of communion to divorced individuals. Rather than sowing dissent with my presence, I chose
to leave. I find that much in the Catholic Church has little resemblance to what Jesus taught, rather it is a conglomeration of 2000 years of so called
“Church Father’s” philosophizing. Giving credit where credit is due, I do believe that the Catholic form of Confession is one of the best things that the
church has ever instituted. It has unfortunately fallen out of favor with the younger generations, but what a blessing it is to examine regularly and
honestly one’s own conscience. May we all continue to walk with Christ and await his return! Deo Gratias.
In our world today we need to be missionaries for christ everywhere.😘
Young people are looking for consistent guidance as they try to navigate a very confusing world with more questions than firm answers. They’re educated in a post modernist ethic where all value is relative. Many are seduced by extremists that claim they have answers and can provide meaning. A strong Church with a strong identity can fill the void. Evangelization by intellectuals like the Bishop on mediums like RUclips that reach the young will help greatly.
Agreed. We must stop dumbing down the religion. I also say we must stand fast in public spaces as well. The young take note.
The unaffiliated that I meet are not leaving, they have never been in a church or part of a faith community.
I was in a unaffiliated household my mom an agnostic atheist my father a German Lutheran, my mom's parents were both Catholic so that is just wrong implying the unaffiliated
@@EnlightenedHeart01 I wonder if your Mom understands all the beauty & grace she kept from her children....it must break your Maternal Grandparents hearts... may God grant a loving & wondrous path to His Trurh ... 🙏🏼✝️
I left the church and am unlikely to return. But I respect the honesty of this. Regardless of how we find spiritual fulfillment we need to have respectful conversations and we need to take personal ownership. I feel another huge problem we have is leaders who set the opposite example. Namely not showing respect and not taking responsibility.
This was incredible and I forwarded it to my oldest son. Who is 19 and is thick with objections along those lines. Stay with it Bishop Barron, God Bless you!!!
One answer to getting young people back - it's been said, "You've got to get them lost before you can get them saved." If they're not seeing that they are dead in their trespasses and sins, what need do they have to come through God's door, Christ, and into his church? That's not to say browbeat them about their sin. But everyone has in common the view that things aren't right, and that they haven't helped themselves sufficiently to feel and be entirely right and okay. Relationship with them, with anyone, offers opportunities. And those who are inside are not often in a spiritual enough fellowship for the power and transcendent love to be routinely visible and palpable. But I'm seeing more of this among those who remain. I think a tipping point of people returning is approaching-the commitment of those who remain plus the desperation of the age are likely coming together in the near future. But commitment and vigilance in prayer are called for. St. Benedict, pray for us.
Dear Bishop Barron, I genuinely enjoyed and learned a lot from this video. I fully agree that we must stop "dumbing down" religious training of our young people, or even of older RCIA candidates. However, I would encourage you to add we also need educators capable of teaching on a more advanced level. Sadly, religion teachers in many dioceses, schools, etc. are suited more towards emotional, experiential methods of teaching, rather than the robust, intellectual approach, which you so rightly recommend. Thank you and keep up your great work!
It's so sad 😞 we got to Pray for them!! It's very difficult to make them understand, because they Faith is not strong, since they have been not thought and they don't believe 😔
is it only because I am old .... 68, or do others find themselves listening to these lectures, these teachings of the Bishop over and over .... to get it all down. I agree completely, I was for a long time on the school board of one of our local Catholic grade schools, my son went from pre K 3 to 8th grade graduation .... he is now 25 and he graduated with maybe 125 students. It is shocking, shocking shocking to see how many of those young people are totally disconnected completely from the church ... and many from religion. I often think about how to fight back ... and to the best of my knowledge even with the many older nones I know ... MANY .... they did NOT LEARN FAITH .... they do not believe and have never been taught how to believe. They really do not get that knock and the door will be open, seek and ye shall find ... they do not get that really means prayer .... If you want to meet God, if you want to know God ... you gotta talk to God ... period. Word On Fire should I think focus on what we have ... Catholic education ... our kids are gone from my sons generation because as hard as I fought .... it was really barely a Catholic school at least based on the Catholic schools I went to .... of course I was in the 6th grade before had my first and last lay teacher until highschool. Make our school INCLUDING UNIVERSITIES Catholic again... They are NOT!
our textbooks were even Catholic in the 50s and 60s .... it was great ....
I am 76years old.
We learned by first mesmerizing prayers and the catechism Q&A.
Then by middle school we were learning Church history.
The mass was broken down so we knew what was going on.
We also learned about sanctifying grace ...etc. okay we need to respect their questions. Get the answers.
@@karenglenn2329 and ... we went to mass every single morning... Monday through Friday ... first thing... church ... donuts and milk due to fasting .... school. It was a great life ... we really liked the free donuts!
Jerry yes every day mass.
We brought a bagged breakfast. That meant the smell of hard boiled eggs.
The boys took turns serving mass.
@@karenglenn2329 yep I was an alter boy too ... Latin at first then it later changed to English. Oh cinnamon roll was much better. LOL!!!
The whole sex thing does make me less willing to evangelise. At work so many people are living with somone outside of marriage or on a secound/third marriage or in a gay relationship. They, and I, know if they were to accept church teaching in its entirety it would mean giving up the person they love. I am happily celibate but even saying "Would you like to come to mass" to these colleagues would be difficult. It's a huge hurdle they have to jump right from the start.
Sometimes doing the hard thing and being honest with someone is hard to do . Yet it is always the right thing to do even with ourselves. Thank you for sharing. God bless you.
Show them the beautiful and then leave it to God to work the miracle
well for the people on their second and third marriage, they are allowed to stay in that marriage if they convert to catholicism while in it. I don't think divorcing is ever a requirement to become catholic. for the gay relationships that is a bit tougher.
Just plan thank you I am an elderly catholic woman who loves Word On Fire and your right my church forgot me.
Omg Father! I have been saying the same thing. Education is the problem. We aren’t feeding children with the knowledge they seek and want!
Really , really good Bishop. Thank you.
Very enlightening, thanks.