If you listen very carefully (and turn on the subtitles) during an early scene in Part 1, an air traffic controller can be heard saying that the surface temperature will reach 141°F by noon, the next day. Holy Jesus riding a crocodile....
knowing the book freman not the movie ones they would have sacrifice just one freman to shoot the shielded ornitopter with a laser and enjoy the fireworks after from a safe distance. presumably if a shield can be maintained in the deep desert.
That's not how the atomic explosion works though it's random and can be anywhere along the beam as in if you shoot a lasgun at a shield then you might explode and not the target. The target might explode or the entire beam could explode hence no one does it as you have no idea what the result will be. I should add its not just random in location but also size. Might be a fart, might blow up half a planet
@@alistairjclark2433 the hell are you talking about?? I'm just suggesting based on the writing of F. Herbert that fremens were more than happy to sacrifice just one of them to kill a bunch of Harkonnen no matter where the explosion is going to happen.
@@alexiachimciuc3199 My point is that shooting a laser at a shield isn't a guarantee kill of the target. It might only kill the shooter, it might only kill the enemy or it could nuke half the planet. Or the explosion might not harm anyone. The sacrifice made in the book is crashing into them not shooting lasguns at shields. Again no one does this for the clear reason above.
It occurred to me... why couldn't they just focus fire the aircraft until its down, THEN fire those laser weapons. It literally just looks like the flyer was the only threat. The Fremen lost a number of guys just to kill a handful of Soldiers who are mostly armed with melee weapons.
@@rokudoma3385 The harvester looked like it had no shielding on it. As it is common knowledge to never turn on your shielding while on the ground as it enrages the worms. But I was more of pointing out the lasers going after the harvester
focus fire the aircraft down through its shield? the clip itself established that they couldnt down the copter without it firing, if there is no threat to eliminate then the copter doesnt need to fire, and the fremen cant fire the lasers on the harvester without being sitting ducks for the copter. fair to say there were numerous ways to approach the attack but all involved taking the copter out
@@chawkayy Ehh, we could go as far as to say the defenders were simply incompetent. I mean, you’d think after seeing the first missile being stoped by the shielding, the gunner would now focus on that particular target. Hell even… you know “move” to get a better angle than sitting there and waiting. But it’s whatever.
If they just blasted a laser at the Harvester, that would give away the position of said laser, and the Ornithopter would blow them to bits. Therefore the Ornithopter has to be taken out first, which means getting close with the rocket launcher. But they can't get close enough to fire it with the Harkonen Soldiers there, so they have to be dealt with.
If the laser hits a shield then it will create a nuclear explosion. That's why they use melee weapons in the first place and every single one of them has a shield. Only slow moving object can go through it.
Well most ships and or personal have shields, if you were to hit a shield with a laser both the target and shooter would die in a atomic explosion. But when on the ground of Arrakis, they HAVE to turn off their shields other wise it sends the worms into a feeding frenzy. So the fremen were just making sure they could fire their lasers without dying themselves
Yeah, in this "universe" advanced defenses serve as a deadly deterrent for the use of firearms and whatnot. That's why you see most people armed with various blades. But on the flip side, personal shields will also generate low sound frequencies that eventually attract sand worms, which is why the Harkonnen squad member at the beginning of the film warned everyone to leave theirs deactivated after levitating. A thumper would attract one, active shields would attract a group. It's also why the Fremen never use them.
Have to assume those big badass laser weapons are pretty damn expensive, didn't wanna kill the troops holding them and not get em back Plus imagine the psychological effect of having no survivors return, especially cuz they haul away all the bodies. You'd have no idea if the fremen even suffered a casualty.
@@ImpossibleMovieQuiz yeah but they dont use shields when on the sand and the fremen do have extremely powerful guns that they just dont use for some reason
@@sinusspass1998 interpretations , if you watch the 2001 sci fi mini series there is a lot more guns used by the Harkonen , ammunition may be difficult for fremen seeing they do not have production facilities
@@user-rn9nn1hx4g The Fremen are not the bad guys. Paul becomes the bad guy, but the Fremen were always just fighting for their home until he coopted them into his galaxy wide war.
The Harkonnen gatling spray gun is so fucking deadly
Scattergun. So freaking deadly and scary
I love the big tippy tappy machine
That is now its scientific term.
The Tippy Tappy Machine.
@@rion7088😂😂😂
@@rion7088 sounds like a term from ZeFrank's video
Love how the shield works during the explosion. Creative visual effects to pair with creative storytelling.
I'd be fucking terrified to hear my comrades drop behind me just to turn to see fifteen fremen running at me
@@jadeplanet no joke
If you listen very carefully (and turn on the subtitles) during an early scene in Part 1, an air traffic controller can be heard saying that the surface temperature will reach 141°F by noon, the next day. Holy Jesus riding a crocodile....
Even tens of thousands of years in the future, Americans are still stubborn and use Farenheit ;)
knowing the book freman not the movie ones they would have sacrifice just one freman to shoot the shielded ornitopter with a laser and enjoy the fireworks after from a safe distance. presumably if a shield can be maintained in the deep desert.
Shields cause lasers to backfire spectacularly in the Duniverse - shooting at a shielded thopter would pretty much be suicide for the entire group
That's not how the atomic explosion works though it's random and can be anywhere along the beam as in if you shoot a lasgun at a shield then you might explode and not the target. The target might explode or the entire beam could explode hence no one does it as you have no idea what the result will be.
I should add its not just random in location but also size. Might be a fart, might blow up half a planet
@@alistairjclark2433 the hell are you talking about?? I'm just suggesting based on the writing of F. Herbert that fremens were more than happy to sacrifice just one of them to kill a bunch of Harkonnen no matter where the explosion is going to happen.
@@alexiachimciuc3199 he wasn't talking to you bro. Calm down
@@alexiachimciuc3199 My point is that shooting a laser at a shield isn't a guarantee kill of the target. It might only kill the shooter, it might only kill the enemy or it could nuke half the planet. Or the explosion might not harm anyone.
The sacrifice made in the book is crashing into them not shooting lasguns at shields. Again no one does this for the clear reason above.
It occurred to me... why couldn't they just focus fire the aircraft until its down, THEN fire those laser weapons. It literally just looks like the flyer was the only threat. The Fremen lost a number of guys just to kill a handful of Soldiers who are mostly armed with melee weapons.
lasers and shields would create an an atomic explosion
@@rokudoma3385 The harvester looked like it had no shielding on it. As it is common knowledge to never turn on your shielding while on the ground as it enrages the worms. But I was more of pointing out the lasers going after the harvester
focus fire the aircraft down through its shield? the clip itself established that they couldnt down the copter without it firing, if there is no threat to eliminate then the copter doesnt need to fire, and the fremen cant fire the lasers on the harvester without being sitting ducks for the copter. fair to say there were numerous ways to approach the attack but all involved taking the copter out
@@chawkayy Ehh, we could go as far as to say the defenders were simply incompetent. I mean, you’d think after seeing the first missile being stoped by the shielding, the gunner would now focus on that particular target. Hell even… you know “move” to get a better angle than sitting there and waiting. But it’s whatever.
If they just blasted a laser at the Harvester, that would give away the position of said laser, and the Ornithopter would blow them to bits. Therefore the Ornithopter has to be taken out first, which means getting close with the rocket launcher. But they can't get close enough to fire it with the Harkonen Soldiers there, so they have to be dealt with.
How did freemen knew harwester would come to this exact spice spot? It is not the only plot of spice or did they buried themself in abush for weeks?
They made a trap with spice
While everyone is fighting with swords. Ill be that guy thats swinging that laser weapon that cuts through everything.
If the laser hits a shield then it will create a nuclear explosion. That's why they use melee weapons in the first place and every single one of them has a shield. Only slow moving object can go through it.
@@mikufollower8564 even better
@@SoytiTvGit creates a nuclear explosion on both ends of the laser. You’d also be dead
@@Tai-ey3lx how does that even work?
Probably could have opened w the lazers
can someone please explain to me... Why didnt they just use the lasers to beginn with???
Well most ships and or personal have shields, if you were to hit a shield with a laser both the target and shooter would die in a atomic explosion. But when on the ground of Arrakis, they HAVE to turn off their shields other wise it sends the worms into a feeding frenzy. So the fremen were just making sure they could fire their lasers without dying themselves
Yeah, in this "universe" advanced defenses serve as a deadly deterrent for the use of firearms and whatnot. That's why you see most people armed with various blades. But on the flip side, personal shields will also generate low sound frequencies that eventually attract sand worms, which is why the Harkonnen squad member at the beginning of the film warned everyone to leave theirs deactivated after levitating. A thumper would attract one, active shields would attract a group. It's also why the Fremen never use them.
Good movie
sooo, why not just shoot the harvester in the first place?
Maybe just lead off with the big lasers next time…
Firing the big lasers would make the shooters vulnerable to attack from the ornithopter.
If a laser comes in contact with a shield then it will create a nuclear like explosion. That's why they all fight with melee weapons
Have to assume those big badass laser weapons are pretty damn expensive, didn't wanna kill the troops holding them and not get em back
Plus imagine the psychological effect of having no survivors return, especially cuz they haul away all the bodies. You'd have no idea if the fremen even suffered a casualty.
Aside from the "cool" factor, why do they bother with swords? Why not just shoot the enemy?
Reminds me of that scene from Indiana Jones.
@@Venn922 “the slow blade pierces the shield “ projectiles are too fast and shields stop them giving the shielded the time to deflect the projectile
@@ImpossibleMovieQuiz ah, that makes sense. Thanks for the response!
@@ImpossibleMovieQuiz yeah but they dont use shields when on the sand and the fremen do have extremely powerful guns that they just dont use for some reason
Well, that's an interesting point. Why does nobody use a good old machine gun in the desert?
@@sinusspass1998 interpretations , if you watch the 2001 sci fi mini series there is a lot more guns used by the Harkonen , ammunition may be difficult for fremen seeing they do not have production facilities
Another piece of technology in the dune universe that makes no sense.
@jackspies444 even your dad would be embarrassed by that one.
at what tech are you referring??
You must be fun at parties.
@@probablynotmyname8521 Nah you got COOKED haha
@@probablynotmyname8521ratioed 💀
enemies seem so dumb. these fights are stupid, it's a bad idea to depict the bad ones as really bad fighters, like in star wars
I think your missing the point that the reason the Harkonnens win is overwhelming force and equipment
In the books fremen only lost 3 men for 100 sardaukars, and harkonnen are really bad fighters compared to sardaukars
They are both the bad ones.
The movie doesn’t portray that well enough unfortunately.
@@user-rn9nn1hx4g The Fremen are not the bad guys. Paul becomes the bad guy, but the Fremen were always just fighting for their home until he coopted them into his galaxy wide war.
@@ElijahDawkins-yb1uc which they hoped onto all to eagerly. Killing billions across the galaxy.
They are just as much at fault as he.
the teen girl ruined this series for me
27 year old Zendaya??
It's the hot desert sun. why is anyone wearing black?
Color does not count with still suits
Their suits keep them from dying. They aren't for stylish points.
Harkonnen's doing Harkonnen things.