Do a video where you compare carbon fiber barrels from proof, Christensen, begara, fierce, preferred barrel blanks. See who makes the best and who has the most thermal shift.
Shoo! That's a big task for me right now. Gonna have to grow the channel alot to get there! Lord willing I'll get there with you guys and gal's help.But I do have my 1st carbon fiber barrel rifle coming soon with a proof research barrel!
My first rifle was a tikka and I’ve never had a reason to switch brands after that. They like just about anything you run through them and pretty much always stay under an inch if you do your part.
On the strength of your review, I ordered a 7 PRC 20 in Fierce Rogue. I love the weight , and got the same range results that you did. As I eat my elk steak, I salute you, sir!
Your channel has become one of my favorites in just a couple of months. Watched hundreds of channels over the years, but in just a couple months, this channel has stood out as one of my favorites.,
HEAVY HITTERS Sako 90 Quest and the Fierce Rogue 300 PRC Terrifying Accuracy Begara Premiere Approach with Ultradyne Chassis Vandal from Horizon Firearms in 22 Creedmoor Bagara Premiere Competition in 6.5 Creedmoor Ruger American Gen 2 in 223 Typical Hunting Rifles Savage 110 TrailHunter in a 7 PRC Sig Cross in 6.5 Creedmoor Fierce Mountain Reaper Begara Premiere Divide NOT So Heavy Hitters, the Little Guys FXM Airgun 35 calibre Begara B14R HMR in 22
Where do you find that info ? I’m having trouble getting a b-14 ridge 243 win to group well . I’ve tried 5 different cartridges and have not found one that consistently groups 1moa or better
@@davidlynch3077try .243 Win.- Hornady 100 gr. Interlock. I googled ‘which factory ammo will my bergara ridge 243 shoot best’ and followed the link to the bergara site
Yes, I appreciate that you said rifles are individuals which is why I hand load. Instead of buying boxes of different ammo I just work up a load that works for my rifles. Less expensive too.
That is one great reason to reload. It's crazy to spend the price of a rifle on testing ammo it likes. I do likewise. I started reloading when I shot a 4-inch group out of factory loads in my 30-06 with Remington 30-06 ammo. It is equally crazy to spend twice as much for a scope than the rifle it goes on. There are many good scopes that are budget scopes. One just needs to do the research.
@@garrytalley8009Hi Garry I actually follow that rule of thumb of spending twice as much on a scope than what my rifles cost. Of course I’ve only spent $300 to $500 for my rifles and spent $500 to $850 on scopes. I have Athlon, Falcon and Sightron scopes, all are great value for the money.
Good Morning Mr. Backfire I admire you so much that you are "honest" "truthful" in your judgment. And above all You are a Crystal Clear Teacher in explaining about Riflscope & about Rifles accuracy. I want to thank you !!! And i hope you continue teaching important things to us about Rifles, Scope and etc...
One gun that I think a lot of people forget to review is the Winchester model 70 the new ones anyways. I have one in 300 win mag and it’s super accurate and smooth
@@JohnLee-jk5ew about 1400 is what I paid for mine. Mine is the Rocky Mountain elk foundation edition but worth every penny in my opinion especially since it has controlled round feed like the old mausers do instead of the push feed which in cases does work for sone guns but I have only had issues with it.
Hey Backfire, I'm new to your viewership but want to share some insight. First, not all of us can afford the high tech extremely expensive rifles that you mention; some of which, I've never heard of. Most of us have one or two favorite range or hunting rifles that we rely on to harvest our game. Next is the trend toward having the most accurate rifle that money can buy. IMHO, backed by over 60 years of in field experience, results are based on three things; good equipment 10%, shooting ability 10% and fieldcraft 80%. We all would like to own and shoot the very best, but not all have the deep wallets required for those wonderful arms. I do happen to own a Ruger 77 that I got in 1974 that, with a handload, will produce a three shot group that you can cover with a dime. The most accurate rifle I own and will never let it go. At 76, I'm entering those years where memories of my hunts are cherished and trips to the range are less and less. For all your followers: enjoy and appreciate the firearms that you have; take a young person out shooting and stay safe.
Lots of great rifles there but I’m sticking with the tried and tested Tikka. They’ve been accurate and consistent from the start. So much so that they’re almost boring. That’s what I want in all tool and rifles are tools to get a job done. They’re no different to a hammer or a skill saw. If it ain’t broke then don’t fix it!
Great video. Love your honesty. ....and then one sometimes one just gets lucky on both the rifle and hand-load ammo. Kimber Mountain Ascent in .300 WSM. Hand-loaded 180gr Nosler Accubonds. Will easy do a sub 1" MOA if the shooter can shoot a lightweight mountain gun. Last 5-shot group I shot was a .284" at 100 yds. Most seem to dislike mountain guns. Barrel is about as thick as a pencil and unforgiving to a shooter with bad shooting habits. I'll have to look to see if you've reviewed any mountain guns. It's sooooo easy to NOT shoot a 1" MOA with any rifle....would never be stupid enough to take your 1" MOA challenge.
THREE SHOT GROUPS-> My 6.5 PRC Browning X-Bolt with its skinny fluted barrel NEEDS only 3 shot groups while the barrel cools for 10 minutes. Otherwise the barrel heats up and groups widen one 1.5 inches.
Oddly enough my Savage Trail Hunter in 6.5 PRC sucked. It shot 3-4" groups out of the box, and I tried two scopes, two rings/bases, and three different ammos. I returned it to Savage and they verified it had a bad barrel. 5 months later, the barrels were still on backorder, but they were kind enough to say I'd waited patiently, long enough. They slapped a Proof Research barrel on it and after doing a simple break-in of ten rounds it's shooting sub .400" groups consistently with Hornady 143 ammo. Now to work up loads, and I'm just using a Vortex Diamondback 4-12x50. Savage rocks!!
If I can give some constructive criticism. First time seeing one of your videos it would be helpful to put the name of the rifle up on the screen just some feedback for next time
Great video…coming from a Seekins Havak PH2 in 6.5 PRC (24” barrel) and absolutely love it. Been an amazing range gun but have yet to field it because…Colorado. Have not drawn tags yet for it. Looking forward to checking out the database, thanks for doing that.
@@WhoIzSo3 absolutely love it! Have it paired with a Leupold vx-6hd and a Scythe can. Amazingly light and makes a great field gun but also fun at the range plinking out to distance (1k yds).
@daveevans7151 is the charging bolt pretty smooth? I was looking into the seekings but right now it's up in the air got my eyes on a few others for this season.
@@WhoIzSo3 it’s getting there…def better than when I first got it. I just make sure that I keep the lugs greased (it’s happier this way). Over the course of cycling rounds, it has loosened up in a good way. Imagine it will just keep getting better.
6.5 creedmoor is a good round for deer and smaller. It’s good at everything even if it’s not the best at anything. That and the 7m-08 are Goldilocks rounds. Accurate High BC Low recoil Plenty of oomph out to 300ish yards. #justright
OMG I've been watching your videos for so long that I failed to realize I wasn't Subscribed! New sub, old viewer. Your channel inspired me to get into competition shooting. Keep it up
Wouldn't it be cool if stores sold small boxes of, say, 6 rounds for the purpose of testing which round works for your gun? They could mark up the cost per round a little, but it would still be cheaper for the consumer to get multiple boxes.
Thinking out loud here, but that made me think manufacturers could do it 2 ways depeding on whether a person wanted to test bullet style/design or weight. Bullet Type Test Kit: It's a 20 round box with 4 different bullets from a single manufacturer in the same grain. So for a .308, Hornady could do 5 of each - 150gr SST, 150gr Interlock, 150gr GMX, and 150gr ELD-X. Then you could see which bullet performs best in your rifle. Bullet Weight Test Kit: It's a 20 round box with 4 different grain weights in the same bullet. For a .308, Hornady could do 5 of each - 125gr SST, 150gr SST, 165gr SST, and 180gr SST.
Too bad we don’t see more wood stocks or even more laminate stocks these days. A lot of people I talk to prefer wood stocks or even a nice laminate stock. I know the trend is synthetic or chassis and some look nice but still can’t beat the looks of a nice wood stock! I know they cost more just be nice to see more options for them. Thanks for the videos they are very informative!
When changing stock especially chassis you really have to ignore the first shot and just call it the settling shot then shoot a 3 shot group. I bet that bergara continues to shoot little knots 👍
I have thought of doing a similar idea to the gun accuracy database. Super glad to see this coming out!!! I am an engineer and have many statistician friends. Let me know if yall need help on this project.
Would highly recommend making a shorter name for your website link and adding it somewhere to your main page if you want more people going there :) Great video!
Heavy Hitting: 1:18 Fierce Rogue 2:43 Sako 90 Quest Terrifying Accuracy: 3:36 Bergara Premier Approach 6:08 Horizon Firearms Vandal 7:15 Bergara Premier Competition 8:08 Ruger American Gen 2 Typical Hunting Rifles: 9:44 Savage 110 Trail Hunter 10:41 Sig Sauer Cross 11:27 Fierce Mountain Reaper The Not So Heavy Hitting: 14:25 FX Impact 15:10 Bergara B-14R
Fun fact about 6.5CM: all my reloading books indicate it can meet or exceed 243Win velocities using 90 & 100gr bullets. Using the 140s, it has similar striking potential to popular non-magnums 7mm and bigger. Lesson to be learned: pick your bullet wisely. The cartridge case is big enough to give the push, the shooter needs to decide what to push.
@idahoron I'll guess that you have those results from a chronograph. I'm pointing to my reloading books that cite 24" bbls for both, Hornady n Nosler; my 1st and 5th editions of Sierra's data don't have the 6.5CM. Those same two Sierra books list 26" and 22" bbls, respectively, with 5 powders reaching 3000fps and 1 powder reaching 3000fps, respectively for the 243. For the 243 Win Nosler does list 3 powders exceeding 3100 fps and 3 more over 3000 from a 24". Hornady lists 10 powders at 3000fps also from a 24". All said n done, I don't own a chronograph and have to rely on the books for estimating velocities. How you are getting higher fps from a shorter tube is one of those magical moments of reloading. Bully for you!!
Taking notes. I have the other categories of firearms pretty well overstocked, AR/AK, pistols o'plenty, tactical shotgun I like, etc. and I'm focusing on a good long range modern rifle to supplement not replace my 1932 Mosin Nagant. It's an amazing gun for the history, shoots pretty well for my ability level up to 200 yards or so, looks awesome and everyone wants to try it but I want the 500 yard capability with a great scope. 2024 will be summer of long range marksmanship.
Here's what I would rather see: shooters with 1.5 MOA guns who could really SHOOT 1.5 MOA out to, say, 400 yards. All shots in a six inch circle at 400 yards. Have that and you'll have a bunch of successful and humane hunters. Have them practice a lot, and they could do it with cheap 308 ammo.
I like your videos Jim, but how about helping us Lefties out, & mention it when a gun/stock/chassis is available in LH? After watching this video I checked Ultradyne's website, & their chassis is available in a LH! PS - I'd sure like to see you do a video review of the Black Collar Arms 12" Pork Sword Stalker in .375 Raptor.
ive been using a 308 forever and i can do 1 inch with my cross. happy with that. sometimes 3/4 inch. building an lmt this year in 308 for hunting. excited to check it out. maybe proof barreled
Dude! I really enjoy your videos! Great content! After watching your videos, I'm thinking of either a Bergara, a CVA or a gen 2 Ruger American for my first bolt action rifle. What is the best first rifle caliber in your opinion, a .308 or a 30-06? My buddy loves his 6.5 Creedmoor but I want excellent game rifle. Which would you recommend? Thank you in advance!
It would be eye opening for you to test Allterra Arms guns. Your perspective on accuracy would be enlightened quite a bit. Especially in a 6.5 PRC or 7 PRC. I know they are more expensive, but your video is titled "the most accurate rifles I've reviewed". Gunwerks is right there with Allterra at the very top of accurate hunting rifles. Maybe you ought to include both in your next " More Accurate Rifles I've Reviewed" test.
The reason larger caliber rifles don’t have a 1 MOA guarantee is because recoil exploits poor fundamentals. It has nothing to do with manufacturing. You can get away with sloppy technique on a 223, but usually it shows up on 308 or 300. Given the price point on some of these rifles, you’re entering custom rifle territory. You can easily build a custom gun on a Big Horn Origin or Nucleus action that shoots below 1/2 MOA these days
Accuracy: How close to the target you're aiming at you hit, NOT the grouping. Precision: How close the 2md, 3rd, 4th shot are to the first shot, or the "grouping". A precise rifle will have a tight grouping. An accurate rifle with hit the target. The goal is to have an accurate rifle that is also precise. You can have an accuratge rifle, that is not a precision rifle. It could have a thin barrel, and thus the 2nd and 3rd shots are off. You can also have a precise rifle that is not accurate if it has a great grouping but your sights or ammo is not zeroed to your target.
Watching this while I'm mounting a Swarovski z3 on my new 6.5 prc Bergara Approach. I know you said the stock was "European" and clunky. I quite like it.
Weatherby guaranteed 1 1/2” at 100 yds even for their 460WM. I worked for them for 14 years and shot those groups consistently. Used to give a 5 shot group with every factory mounted scope. Starting in the late 80’s we went to 3 shot groups.
Hey I had a specific question!!! What was your weight decrease from your Bergara premier approach. I’m thinking about switching like you did. How much weight did you lose on that gun switching?
Not certain what the Bergara stock weighs, but we offer options as light as 2 pounds (chassis, butt stock, grip). Let us know if we can help answer any of your questions!
Firstly, I'm not a great shot. I'd hesitate to even call myself good, or mediocre - But I have to agree with the assessment that if someone wanted -just one- rifle, suitable for long rage target (600yds+), and moderate to long range (call it 300-500yds) hunting for deer-sized game and smaller, I'd push them towards a 6.5 creed, as well. I like heavier rifles, but light or heavy, every 6.5-chambered rifle I've gotten to play with has just been capable. Hornady stumbled onto a unicorn with it, for sure.
Love your video, but i would like to see the price every time you review the rifle, and not Google it. I know maybe it is not my range on money, but dream about it is not bad. Keep the good work
Do you have an optic recommendation? I'm looking for something that would allow me better PID at range than the 4x ACOGs I train with. I'm looking for something that can do 1x but also something I could use for spotting/range. I'm trying to push out to 1km without too much optic. What has really turned me away is when users say optics get blurry or dim with higher power zooms or bigger spreads 1-6-8-10-12 on LPVOs. Wishlist: I haven't found anything, but I want it to snap in, no variable. Just 1 and 10 not 1-10. 10 Would also be nice because I could say it's 10 times or 1/10th what I see.
@backfire Jim, have you reviewed any of the rifles from Seekins Precision? Ive seen many of your cideos and I like your honesty and integrity in reviews and would love a neutral opinion on the Seekins Hakak Hit rifle or any of their other options if youve shot them. Thanks
Am a bit disappointed in your final selection that excluded a Tikka Evan though you have praised them in the past - in my 50 years of shooting nothing has performed as well as Tikka/Sako in a number of calibers with outstanding accuracy averaging 0.5 MOA and have heard/known of the horror stories of Begara, Christensen, Ruger, Remington, Savage ..etc
Do a video where you compare carbon fiber barrels from proof, Christensen, begara, fierce, preferred barrel blanks. See who makes the best and who has the most thermal shift.
Good idea
YES!
Carbon barrels are too variable. You’ll get good and bad ones from each company.
Shoo! That's a big task for me right now. Gonna have to grow the channel alot to get there! Lord willing I'll get there with you guys and gal's help.But I do have my 1st carbon fiber barrel rifle coming soon with a proof research barrel!
I would love to see this
My first rifle was a tikka and I’ve never had a reason to switch brands after that. They like just about anything you run through them and pretty much always stay under an inch if you do your part.
AMEN !
The only thing they do hella wrong is that i had to tap my muzzle and the magazine forntheir magnum length is short for sammi spec
On the strength of your review, I ordered a 7 PRC 20 in Fierce Rogue. I love the weight , and got the same range results that you did. As I eat my elk steak, I salute you, sir!
Your channel has become one of my favorites in just a couple of months. Watched hundreds of channels over the years, but in just a couple months, this channel has stood out as one of my favorites.,
HEAVY HITTERS Sako 90 Quest and the Fierce Rogue 300 PRC
Terrifying Accuracy
Begara Premiere Approach with Ultradyne Chassis
Vandal from Horizon Firearms in 22 Creedmoor
Bagara Premiere Competition in 6.5 Creedmoor
Ruger American Gen 2 in 223
Typical Hunting Rifles
Savage 110 TrailHunter in a 7 PRC
Sig Cross in 6.5 Creedmoor
Fierce Mountain Reaper
Begara Premiere Divide
NOT So Heavy Hitters, the Little Guys
FXM Airgun 35 calibre
Begara B14R HMR in 22
I love that Bergara publishes which factory ammo they were able to get sub-MOA with for each rifle and cartridge
Agreed
Where do you find that info ? I’m having trouble getting a b-14 ridge 243 win to group well . I’ve tried 5 different cartridges and have not found one that consistently groups 1moa or better
@@davidlynch3077try .243 Win.- Hornady 100 gr. Interlock. I googled ‘which factory ammo will my bergara ridge 243 shoot best’ and followed the link to the bergara site
@@davidlynch3077 they have it on there website I’ll try to find a link
@@davidlynch3077 I was wondering the same. I can't find where they say what ammo.
Yes, I appreciate that you said rifles are individuals which is why I hand load. Instead of buying boxes of different ammo I just work up a load that works for my rifles. Less expensive too.
That is one great reason to reload. It's crazy to spend the price of a rifle on testing ammo it likes. I do likewise. I started reloading when I shot a 4-inch group out of factory loads in my 30-06 with Remington 30-06 ammo. It is equally crazy to spend twice as much for a scope than the rifle it goes on. There are many good scopes that are budget scopes. One just needs to do the research.
@@garrytalley8009Hi Garry I actually follow that rule of thumb of spending twice as much on a scope than what my rifles cost. Of course I’ve only spent $300 to $500 for my rifles and spent $500 to $850 on scopes. I have Athlon, Falcon and Sightron scopes, all are great value for the money.
Such a cool idea... Thank you for keeping the database Jim!!
I am running my Ultradyne chassis on my 6.5 cm B14 and absolutely love it! Best bang for your buck IMO.
Great idea on the ammo accuracy database !!!!! 🎉
Thank you for your community service on the recoil and accuracy report databases.
Where can I tell my friend to go to see the database? Ty!
Good Morning Mr. Backfire I admire you so much that you are "honest" "truthful" in your judgment. And above all You are a Crystal Clear Teacher in explaining about Riflscope & about Rifles accuracy. I want to thank you !!! And i hope you continue teaching important things to us about Rifles, Scope and etc...
That database is a great idea. Sure someone else’s #1 might not be my #1, but at least give me an idea on the first 3 boxes I should try out!
I sold my Winchesters now I have Bergaras.
Awesome idea w database
I want to say you so good at reviewing products. I really appreciate and enjoy listening and learning from your reviews.
Might want to add barrel length to the data base 🤔
Super psyched for the accuracy database. I have tested at least 20 different factory offerings in my 110 ultralite. Will definitely upload my results
"Chefs kiss" for the 22 Creedmoor rifle.....very sweet.
The data base is a brilliant idea! 💡
One gun that I think a lot of people forget to review is the Winchester model 70 the new ones anyways. I have one in 300 win mag and it’s super accurate and smooth
Are they pricey?
@@JohnLee-jk5ew about 1400 is what I paid for mine. Mine is the Rocky Mountain elk foundation edition but worth every penny in my opinion especially since it has controlled round feed like the old mausers do instead of the push feed which in cases does work for sone guns but I have only had issues with it.
Hey Backfire, I'm new to your viewership but want to share some insight. First, not all of us can afford the high tech extremely expensive rifles that you mention; some of which, I've never heard of. Most of us have one or two favorite range or hunting rifles that we rely on to harvest our game. Next is the trend toward having the most accurate rifle that money can buy. IMHO, backed by over 60 years of in field experience, results are based on three things; good equipment 10%, shooting ability 10% and fieldcraft 80%. We all would like to own and shoot the very best, but not all have the deep wallets required for those wonderful arms. I do happen to own a Ruger 77 that I got in 1974 that, with a handload, will produce a three shot group that you can cover with a dime. The most accurate rifle I own and will never let it go. At 76, I'm entering those years where memories of my hunts are cherished and trips to the range are less and less. For all your followers: enjoy and appreciate the firearms that you have; take a young person out shooting and stay safe.
Seems weird to come complain about prices on a video call “the most accurate rifles I’ve reviewed”.
Lots of great rifles there but I’m sticking with the tried and tested Tikka. They’ve been accurate and consistent from the start. So much so that they’re almost boring. That’s what I want in all tool and rifles are tools to get a job done. They’re no different to a hammer or a skill saw. If it ain’t broke then don’t fix it!
Yes sir ! The sliding the bolt feels like '' RUBBING A ICE CUBE ON GLASS ''.
Tikka makes a damn good rifle with a glass smooth bolt
Great video. Love your honesty. ....and then one sometimes one just gets lucky on both the rifle and hand-load ammo. Kimber Mountain Ascent in .300 WSM. Hand-loaded 180gr Nosler Accubonds. Will easy do a sub 1" MOA if the shooter can shoot a lightweight mountain gun. Last 5-shot group I shot was a .284" at 100 yds. Most seem to dislike mountain guns. Barrel is about as thick as a pencil and unforgiving to a shooter with bad shooting habits. I'll have to look to see if you've reviewed any mountain guns. It's sooooo easy to NOT shoot a 1" MOA with any rifle....would never be stupid enough to take your 1" MOA challenge.
Looking forward to the accuracy report!!! I’m in the market for a new elk rifle this fall and that will be very nice!
Database is a great idea, ty
Ruger m77 guide gun is super accurate
Thank you for the database!
Funny, I watched that other video this morning and was hoping an update would come. . . . . Thanks Jim!!
THREE SHOT GROUPS-> My 6.5 PRC Browning X-Bolt with its skinny fluted barrel NEEDS only 3 shot groups while the barrel cools for 10 minutes. Otherwise the barrel heats up and groups widen one 1.5 inches.
Thanks for your work! 👍🏼
Oddly enough my Savage Trail Hunter in 6.5 PRC sucked. It shot 3-4" groups out of the box, and I tried two scopes, two rings/bases, and three different ammos. I returned it to Savage and they verified it had a bad barrel.
5 months later, the barrels were still on backorder, but they were kind enough to say I'd waited patiently, long enough.
They slapped a Proof Research barrel on it and after doing a simple break-in of ten rounds it's shooting sub .400" groups consistently with Hornady 143 ammo. Now to work up loads, and I'm just using a Vortex Diamondback 4-12x50. Savage rocks!!
I love the fierce rifle company. Spent nearly half an hour talking to the guys, and they were very helpful! Customer service is awesome
Love the database idea. Just submitted my DD Delta 5 Pro 6.5CM with American Gunner 140gr. Insane accurate combo with cheap ammo.
My Bergara B14 HMR loves it too. It's so close to the accuracy of the 140gr ELD-M. I miss those cheap 200 count boxes of American Gunner!
Thanks Jim. BTW I love my new backstop!
Always great videos! You've done a great job.
If I can give some constructive criticism. First time seeing one of your videos it would be helpful to put the name of the rifle up on the screen just some feedback for next time
I HAD 3 SAKO RIFLES,A 264 MAG,A 223 AND A 300 WIN MAG.THEY WERE ALL THREE THE BEST IVE EVER SEEN.PERIOD
Great idea on the rifle accuracy compilation.
Great Channel Jim.
Love that Ultradyne Chassis! Going to have to pick up one or two of those.
Great video…coming from a Seekins Havak PH2 in 6.5 PRC (24” barrel) and absolutely love it. Been an amazing range gun but have yet to field it because…Colorado. Have not drawn tags yet for it. Looking forward to checking out the database, thanks for doing that.
How you like the seekings?
@@WhoIzSo3 absolutely love it! Have it paired with a Leupold vx-6hd and a Scythe can. Amazingly light and makes a great field gun but also fun at the range plinking out to distance (1k yds).
@daveevans7151 is the charging bolt pretty smooth? I was looking into the seekings but right now it's up in the air got my eyes on a few others for this season.
@@WhoIzSo3 it’s getting there…def better than when I first got it. I just make sure that I keep the lugs greased (it’s happier this way). Over the course of cycling rounds, it has loosened up in a good way. Imagine it will just keep getting better.
This database idea is awesome!
Really one of the best videos you have done.👍👍👍👌
6.5 creedmoor is a good round for deer and smaller. It’s good at everything even if it’s not the best at anything. That and the 7m-08 are Goldilocks rounds.
Accurate
High BC
Low recoil
Plenty of oomph out to 300ish yards.
#justright
no tikkas?
The translation is hilarious 😂
Technically sako and tikka are the same company but yea for the price of a tikka they are very hard to beat.
@@JSJTOUTDOORS agreed I have several tikkas and 1 sako 85. The tikkas shoot just as good and 1/2 the price
OMG I've been watching your videos for so long that I failed to realize I wasn't Subscribed! New sub, old viewer. Your channel inspired me to get into competition shooting. Keep it up
And the price on the setup your are showing, with scope too. God bless
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Wouldn't it be cool if stores sold small boxes of, say, 6 rounds for the purpose of testing which round works for your gun? They could mark up the cost per round a little, but it would still be cheaper for the consumer to get multiple boxes.
A great idea, I hope a manufacturer reads this
Thinking out loud here, but that made me think manufacturers could do it 2 ways depeding on whether a person wanted to test bullet style/design or weight.
Bullet Type Test Kit: It's a 20 round box with 4 different bullets from a single manufacturer in the same grain. So for a .308, Hornady could do 5 of each - 150gr SST, 150gr Interlock, 150gr GMX, and 150gr ELD-X. Then you could see which bullet performs best in your rifle.
Bullet Weight Test Kit: It's a 20 round box with 4 different grain weights in the same bullet. For a .308, Hornady could do 5 of each - 125gr SST, 150gr SST, 165gr SST, and 180gr SST.
As always….
Great video, thanks for the hard work!!
Too bad we don’t see more wood stocks or even more laminate stocks these days. A lot of people I talk to prefer wood stocks or even a nice laminate stock. I know the trend is synthetic or chassis and some look nice but still can’t beat the looks of a nice wood stock! I know they cost more just be nice to see more options for them. Thanks for the videos they are very informative!
When changing stock especially chassis you really have to ignore the first shot and just call it the settling shot then shoot a 3 shot group.
I bet that bergara continues to shoot little knots 👍
Thanks for the update. Have you looked at the Seekins Precision lineup? They semed to be great rifles with a very unique accuracy warranty
I have thought of doing a similar idea to the gun accuracy database. Super glad to see this coming out!!! I am an engineer and have many statistician friends. Let me know if yall need help on this project.
Would highly recommend making a shorter name for your website link and adding it somewhere to your main page if you want more people going there :) Great video!
Heavy Hitting:
1:18 Fierce Rogue
2:43 Sako 90 Quest
Terrifying Accuracy:
3:36 Bergara Premier Approach
6:08 Horizon Firearms Vandal
7:15 Bergara Premier Competition
8:08 Ruger American Gen 2
Typical Hunting Rifles:
9:44 Savage 110 Trail Hunter
10:41 Sig Sauer Cross
11:27 Fierce Mountain Reaper
The Not So Heavy Hitting:
14:25 FX Impact
15:10 Bergara B-14R
Hero
Thanks
Awesome!
Another great program Thanks…you have some many rifles… love your gun room..watching from the UK..👍😉
Another gem as always!
At least she was wearing her safety glasses this time ;-)
Keep up the good work 👍🏻
Great idea!
Glad to see the savage 110 made the list , for a budget rifle they are pretty good
Fun fact about 6.5CM: all my reloading books indicate it can meet or exceed 243Win velocities using 90 & 100gr bullets. Using the 140s, it has similar striking potential to popular non-magnums 7mm and bigger. Lesson to be learned: pick your bullet wisely. The cartridge case is big enough to give the push, the shooter needs to decide what to push.
The only way the 6.5cm keeps up with a 243 is if it has a 26" barrel. I'm running 3150 with a 100 gr bullet in my 243 with a 22" barrel.
@idahoron I'll guess that you have those results from a chronograph. I'm pointing to my reloading books that cite 24" bbls for both, Hornady n Nosler; my 1st and 5th editions of Sierra's data don't have the 6.5CM. Those same two Sierra books list 26" and 22" bbls, respectively, with 5 powders reaching 3000fps and 1 powder reaching 3000fps, respectively for the 243.
For the 243 Win Nosler does list 3 powders exceeding 3100 fps and 3 more over 3000 from a 24". Hornady lists 10 powders at 3000fps also from a 24".
All said n done, I don't own a chronograph and have to rely on the books for estimating velocities. How you are getting higher fps from a shorter tube is one of those magical moments of reloading. Bully for you!!
@@rokkinjohann I have an Ohler 35 chronograph. I can guarantee I'm getting 3150.
Thank you for all your hard work
Taking notes. I have the other categories of firearms pretty well overstocked, AR/AK, pistols o'plenty, tactical shotgun I like, etc. and I'm focusing on a good long range modern rifle to supplement not replace my 1932 Mosin Nagant. It's an amazing gun for the history, shoots pretty well for my ability level up to 200 yards or so, looks awesome and everyone wants to try it but I want the 500 yard capability with a great scope. 2024 will be summer of long range marksmanship.
I’ve got 2 Bergaras
Love them
Love the video - Greetings from South Africa
Very informative video. Thanks!
Did she speak german after shooting and laughing? "...ist das geil!"
Priceless reaction by the way!
Here's what I would rather see: shooters with 1.5 MOA guns who could really SHOOT 1.5 MOA out to, say, 400 yards. All shots in a six inch circle at 400 yards. Have that and you'll have a bunch of successful and humane hunters. Have them practice a lot, and they could do it with cheap 308 ammo.
I like your videos Jim, but how about helping us Lefties out, & mention it when a gun/stock/chassis is available in LH? After watching this video I checked Ultradyne's website, & their chassis is available in a LH! PS - I'd sure like to see you do a video review of the Black Collar Arms 12" Pork Sword Stalker in .375 Raptor.
Liked your review. The additional data would be helpful; distance you were shooting, msrp on the reviewed Guns and optics you used.
Thanks
Great review. What do you think of the heavier wt 6.5 Grendel? Thanks 🍻
The heavier recoiling rifles often shoot just as well it just takes more thought and precise rilemanship !!!!
Love your vids. I’d be interested in a gas gun accuracy vid
I watched your last video like this and went with a springfield waypoint 2020 6.5prc. Absolute tac driver. Cheers!
bergara,sako,fierce all shot great
ive been using a 308 forever and i can do 1 inch with my cross. happy with that. sometimes 3/4 inch. building an lmt this year in 308 for hunting. excited to check it out. maybe proof barreled
Me being a bergara fan boy absolutely loved this video
The price on the cross is also amazing.
Good stuff thanks for the content, hey between the rogue or the new rival with the adjustable cheek , which one would you pick, thanks
Dude! I really enjoy your videos! Great content! After watching your videos, I'm thinking of either a Bergara, a CVA or a gen 2 Ruger American for my first bolt action rifle. What is the best first rifle caliber in your opinion, a .308 or a 30-06? My buddy loves his 6.5 Creedmoor but I want excellent game rifle. Which would you recommend? Thank you in advance!
It would be eye opening for you to test Allterra Arms guns. Your perspective on accuracy would be enlightened quite a bit. Especially in a 6.5 PRC or 7 PRC. I know they are more expensive, but your video is titled "the most accurate rifles I've reviewed". Gunwerks is right there with Allterra at the very top of accurate hunting rifles. Maybe you ought to include both in your next "
More Accurate Rifles I've Reviewed" test.
Great show 👌👌👌👌👌💯💯💯💯
The reason larger caliber rifles don’t have a 1 MOA guarantee is because recoil exploits poor fundamentals. It has nothing to do with manufacturing. You can get away with sloppy technique on a 223, but usually it shows up on 308 or 300.
Given the price point on some of these rifles, you’re entering custom rifle territory. You can easily build a custom gun on a Big Horn Origin or Nucleus action that shoots below 1/2 MOA these days
Goodness, you must have had some HUGE settlements to keep buying all those guns ! good for you !
Accuracy: How close to the target you're aiming at you hit, NOT the grouping. Precision: How close the 2md, 3rd, 4th shot are to the first shot, or the "grouping". A precise rifle will have a tight grouping. An accurate rifle with hit the target. The goal is to have an accurate rifle that is also precise. You can have an accuratge rifle, that is not a precision rifle. It could have a thin barrel, and thus the 2nd and 3rd shots are off. You can also have a precise rifle that is not accurate if it has a great grouping but your sights or ammo is not zeroed to your target.
Watching this while I'm mounting a Swarovski z3 on my new 6.5 prc Bergara Approach. I know you said the stock was "European" and clunky. I quite like it.
Weatherby guaranteed 1 1/2” at 100 yds even for their 460WM. I worked for them for 14 years and shot those groups consistently. Used to give a 5 shot group with every factory mounted scope. Starting in the late 80’s we went to 3 shot groups.
Very impressed with your knowledge and presentation . François Martens, farmer,South Africa
Where are the Tikka rifles😵😵😵😵😵😵😵😵😵
My thoughts exactly
They had socko
Hey I had a specific question!!! What was your weight decrease from your Bergara premier approach. I’m thinking about switching like you did. How much weight did you lose on that gun switching?
Not certain what the Bergara stock weighs, but we offer options as light as 2 pounds (chassis, butt stock, grip). Let us know if we can help answer any of your questions!
Thank you! I think I will get one is there any discounts available
is there ever a thought of purchasing a cadex? or maybe an Anschutz? I would be interested to see how you like them.
Firstly, I'm not a great shot. I'd hesitate to even call myself good, or mediocre - But I have to agree with the assessment that if someone wanted -just one- rifle, suitable for long rage target (600yds+), and moderate to long range (call it 300-500yds) hunting for deer-sized game and smaller, I'd push them towards a 6.5 creed, as well. I like heavier rifles, but light or heavy, every 6.5-chambered rifle I've gotten to play with has just been capable. Hornady stumbled onto a unicorn with it, for sure.
I shot my buddy's 6.5 Savage with a cheap ass 3-9x scope that was mounted crooked and I was easily hitting steel at 500 yards. It felt like cheating.
"The vault" eye candy!!
Let’s see the 280 AI vs. 7PRC a lot of people may get surprised!
Tikka T3 lite. the first one that came out in 2004. 270 WSM all under 1" no matter what I feed it. Still have it, still a tack driver
Love your video, but i would like to see the price every time you review the rifle, and not Google it. I know maybe it is not my range on money, but dream about it is not bad. Keep the good work
Would love to see you test the Seekins Havak Element, Hit and Hit Pro.
Shocked cva didn’t make the list
Do you have an optic recommendation?
I'm looking for something that would allow me better PID at range than the 4x ACOGs I train with. I'm looking for something that can do 1x but also something I could use for spotting/range. I'm trying to push out to 1km without too much optic. What has really turned me away is when users say optics get blurry or dim with higher power zooms or bigger spreads 1-6-8-10-12 on LPVOs.
Wishlist: I haven't found anything, but I want it to snap in, no variable. Just 1 and 10 not 1-10. 10 Would also be nice because I could say it's 10 times or 1/10th what I see.
@backfire Jim, have you reviewed any of the rifles from Seekins Precision? Ive seen many of your cideos and I like your honesty and integrity in reviews and would love a neutral opinion on the Seekins Hakak Hit rifle or any of their other options if youve shot them. Thanks
Am a bit disappointed in your final selection that excluded a Tikka Evan though you have praised them in the past - in my 50 years of shooting nothing has performed as well as Tikka/Sako in a number of calibers with outstanding accuracy averaging 0.5 MOA and have heard/known of the horror stories of Begara, Christensen, Ruger, Remington, Savage ..etc