You two compliment each other better than any couple I've come across. The way you work together to solve fairly complex and at times very dangerous/serious problems is a true wonder to witness. Wether it's a blown out sail, changing engines, rebuilding an entire steering system while under passage, in rough seas at night, dealing with a busted autopilot, or a hole in your fuel tank in the middle of nowhere. Happy New Year to you both. You are together very exceptional humans indeed. Cheers 🥂
Cheers, you’re too kind! We’re just loving living this rollercoaster with two wheels still on the track while the other two are flying high in the air as we whip around the corners. 😜
You guys should coat the inside of the tank with resin, it won't leak again... I have done it with dinghies fuel tank and it's been keeping for 3 years already
We actually met him! We were loading some food into our dinghy at that bridge and he pulled up. I was getting ready to explain ourselves and he just offered to help us load up. Guess it was a slow day
@@RedSeas must be the most relaxed job ever to be a police officer on that island.. “oh there’s another crime!” Come here Duncan you old scamp! “Give them back their big screen tv” can’t really say “oh I brought it off a guy at the pub? 😂. Duncan you’re are lying! Got you again you scamp! 😂. “Can you describe him?” Well he had Red hair, that’s enough “where is Duncan” 😂
Had leaks along the welded seams of my stainless steel water tanks and rather than get a new tank fabricated I used an epoxy based product which you pour into the tank (and then roll the tank end-to-end inside to side a few times) and it seals the tank from the inside which also obviously protects you against other parts which you can't see which may be getting very thin. The product is intended for motorcycle and car petrol tanks. It was 2 or 3 parts with the first two parts being rust converter and primer I think. The final epoxy based stage of the product was not two parts. 4 years later and the water tanks are still fine.
It is to some degree. We have to be careful what we ship in as we will be charged import duty of 40% on the total shipped costs of the item. There is a process called yacht in transit that we can use for some items to not pay this duty but the base fee is some thing like $200 for paperwork processing so it is all quite expensive sadly. Good excuse to fly into tahiti for a holiday tho. They don’t mind what people bring on holiday really 😂
😂 had the same problem on a similar shaped tank on one of my kit cars ... Smaller and petrol though..... 😬 And horizontal fitted. Beautiful place to spend your X mas break... X mas piza thats posh. 😂🧙🏼♂️ Lost the old Glasgow born friend over the same time period. A mix of 27 heart attacks and surgeries called time on him sadly something like his 3 rd time heart stopped.. maybe more. 😔🫡 Stay healthy guys.. 😎🧙🏼♂️
Wow that’s a tough situation to manage at a festive time of year. Hope you’re coping with it and able to celebrate the joyous moments you shared. Every great story has an ending and it’s not usually the most important part to remember. How did you manage the fuel tank issue? Not convinced we will be problem free moving forward but already looking into ideas
If stuff stick out above the lid of our bin, the council bin collectors will give you a warning, and if its really bad they will not empty it. I could have made that bin lid close easy…Bri’s a light weight at bin filling.😂
Funny part is, those pizza boxes weren’t ours. We pulled them out to drop our bag in and then couldn’t get the lid closed. Hopefully we got away with it
😜 well we usually manage half a pizza and then freeze the rest for an on passage snack. That said, if the challenge is laid down, at least one of us is willing to pick it up 😂
The fix for that tank is as soon as you get somewhere there is a welder to cut out the bottom and weld in a new bottom. It bothers me you pumped a tank of Diesel into the ocean and have the potential to do it again .
Thankfully we pumped almost all the diesel into bottles onboard. We try not to pump anything overboard until we know what it is. That said, the repair is temporary in our eyes. The last time we did it was 4 years ago so it should last until we get back to a more built up location with access to supplies. (We are a good 1000nm from any marine parts here)
Oh yeah! We just have to call tow boat USA and they send a coast guard vessel our ways 😂 or not! It’s going to be a fun one getting everything up and running sgsin
This looks like galvanic corrosion is going on there. If the tank has water contact more or less often, you may check if there is a possibility to drain the bilge better or more often or you need some galvanic protection like anodes in there. A humid climate may be enough already on the other hand to start the damage. There are also other methods to protect things inside. Do your research. There's a book in German from the Palstek publishing house. Don't know if there are any English ones about maritime corrosion in particular.
It almost certainly is corrosion due to the prolonged exposure to water that sits int he bottom of the tank following dirty fuel (these tanks are 20 years old and we have plenty of clues that they have never been looked after). Our hope is that the epoxy paint will help create a barrier from external humidity and bilge waters while our new diy fuel polishing system will remove water from building up within the tanks. Hopefully that works to keep us moving until we can source replacements somewhere more built up. The Tuamotus, gambier and the whole of French Polynesia really isn’t set up for boat maintenance on this scale sadly.
@RedSeas @RedSeas Epoxy is an isolating coating, that's right. But if you don't have proper preparation for aluminium, it won't stick very long to it. Also the plug filler may fall off as the fuel gives additional pressure and chemical influence from inside. Hope for your budget it lasts until you can get a replacement tank. Have you thought about using the old tank as a mould for an self built grp tank? Sand the overhanging edges off, coat it with paint and mould release wax and done. Maybe the best chance you have to get a cheap tank very soon. If there's a little space around the old one to take the laminate thickness. The lid can be done separately and is glued on top. Just have a look at the YT channel The Duracell Project, in his videos from about the end of last year you'll find a great description of how he made his tanks. You may also use the boat hull as the outer wall, make a half round tube in the middle of the bottom to let bilge water flow through and just put a lit on top.
Proper preparation would be dry ice blasting for example. Sanding will improve the bond, but it just spreads the corroded surface particles all over the surface. Alu corrodes within seconds with the air.
That was our first thought. Checked through every line to and from the engine. Then went thru checking one way valves on bilge pumps, dripless shaft seals and even the rudder bearings to see what could have caused liquid in the bilge
That tank will always be an issue. Patches externally will be a problem as the pressure will cause seepage into the bonded epoxy. Id look at lining the tank with a fuel resistant epoxy. Something like a vinylester ve140 - mix it and pour it in, and rotate the tank up/down/left right as its setting.. You should easily be able to coat the bottom half of each tank internally.
Also consider getting a jerry can pick-up pipe lid. There available for standard jerry cans. That way if a tank fails, you can easily set a jerry can up as a temporary fuel supply. Sure 25 LTRs won't last long, but it will charge battery's or get you into a port.
Totally agree this is a temporary patch to the problem but given the last time we did it was 4 years ago, it should last long enough for us to get somewhere more built up where tanks and supplies are more readily available. (Probably the other side of the pacific). 😊
That’s pretty much what we did to get to anchor. The Nanni engines are crazy fuel efficient so it held out all the way but I might look into 3d printing a custom jerry cap for the job if it happens again. We have a few different 3d printing filament materials and I have a suspicion at least one is diesel resistant for the job.
Good question. We took a look and it was looking ok but we can only see so much of course. Hopefully we get somewhere with resources before it becomes an issue.
Glad your leak seems to be fixed but would it not have been better to check that repair before the tank was reinstalled, it would have been a bit late to find out it still leaks after its been reinstalled🤷🏻♂️
@@RedSeasSorry😅 You said passage pizza and my mind *such as it is* started thinking of words that started with the letter p. Never had pineapple pizza personally.....ugh! there it goes again
It’s pretty common for cats that went thru the charter life that Indioko had. The last charter company to own her really didn’t have a clue how to care for a boat and her engines didn’t get any attention or regular services as best we could tell. Whole new papered works for Indioko now tho 😊
So the list to date… engine’s, sails, fual tanks, steering, rudders………wait I see what you are doing, your slowly making your 20 yr old boat into a new boat….🤡… Instead of pay in instalments you are paying in 0arts and fix’s…😂🤣😱
They say their is 2 or 3degrees of separation, and even in the middle of the sea on an island someone you meet may now someone that knows someone that knows you in some way. Spooky…
17:17 oh my lord! Duncan is there? That’s amazing, please say G’day to the Dunkster! 😂
🤣
You two compliment each other better than any couple I've come across. The way you work together to solve fairly complex and at times very dangerous/serious problems is a true wonder to witness. Wether it's a blown out sail, changing engines, rebuilding an entire steering system while under passage, in rough seas at night, dealing with a busted autopilot, or a hole in your fuel tank in the middle of nowhere. Happy New Year to you both. You are together very exceptional humans indeed. Cheers 🥂
Cheers, you’re too kind! We’re just loving living this rollercoaster with two wheels still on the track while the other two are flying high in the air as we whip around the corners. 😜
Bri always the ever optimist... Bless her 🙃
Every boat needs one lol
Glad the fuel tank repair went well. Y’all left us hanging in the last video.
It was a bit of a nail biter for us too 😊
Thanks guys!
Cheers brother! Always pleased when you stop by and drop us a comment or two
You guys should coat the inside of the tank with resin, it won't leak again...
I have done it with dinghies fuel tank and it's been keeping for 3 years already
That’s a cool idea. When we get somewhere with some supplies that might be worth a shot
Ahh come on guys. Not having a pre passage pizza is jinxing it.
Great video guys., looking forward to the next one.
Exactly!! We had it coming to us.
20:33 there the two cars are, it’s must be peak hour, i wonder if they have a Cop sitting there running Radar? 😂
We actually met him! We were loading some food into our dinghy at that bridge and he pulled up. I was getting ready to explain ourselves and he just offered to help us load up. Guess it was a slow day
@@RedSeas must be the most relaxed job ever to be a police officer on that island.. “oh there’s another crime!” Come here Duncan you old scamp! “Give them back their big screen tv” can’t really say “oh I brought it off a guy at the pub? 😂. Duncan you’re are lying! Got you again you scamp! 😂. “Can you describe him?” Well he had Red hair, that’s enough “where is Duncan” 😂
Had leaks along the welded seams of my stainless steel water tanks and rather than get a new tank fabricated I used an epoxy based product which you pour into the tank (and then roll the tank end-to-end inside to side a few times) and it seals the tank from the inside which also obviously protects you against other parts which you can't see which may be getting very thin. The product is intended for motorcycle and car petrol tanks. It was 2 or 3 parts with the first two parts being rust converter and primer I think. The final epoxy based stage of the product was not two parts. 4 years later and the water tanks are still fine.
Interesting. I’ll have to take a look for it when we are back in the built up end of FP
@@RedSeas hi, is it possible to have packages sent to you in FP? From UK. Or USA ? Spare parts etc
It is to some degree. We have to be careful what we ship in as we will be charged import duty of 40% on the total shipped costs of the item. There is a process called yacht in transit that we can use for some items to not pay this duty but the base fee is some thing like $200 for paperwork processing so it is all quite expensive sadly. Good excuse to fly into tahiti for a holiday tho. They don’t mind what people bring on holiday really 😂
@@RedSeas ok, thats outrageously expensive, and a headache to go through. Well, enjoy your travels.
yes, the blessings of pizza!!!!
Shout it from the roof tops
Water floats, so you could filter it out the bulge into the tank?
The diesel sits ontop of the water but it gets contaminated pretty fast so not really a good idea to put it straight back in the tank
Great video
Glad you enjoyed it
Where in the world can you walk for miles n the main road in the middle of the road? Cool beautiful place.
I mean miles might be an exaggeration. This is still a tiny island don’t forget 😂
😂 had the same problem on a similar shaped tank on one of my kit cars ... Smaller and petrol though..... 😬 And horizontal fitted.
Beautiful place to spend your X mas break... X mas piza thats posh. 😂🧙🏼♂️
Lost the old Glasgow born friend over the same time period. A mix of 27 heart attacks and surgeries called time on him sadly something like his 3 rd time heart stopped.. maybe more. 😔🫡
Stay healthy guys.. 😎🧙🏼♂️
Wow that’s a tough situation to manage at a festive time of year. Hope you’re coping with it and able to celebrate the joyous moments you shared. Every great story has an ending and it’s not usually the most important part to remember.
How did you manage the fuel tank issue? Not convinced we will be problem free moving forward but already looking into ideas
If stuff stick out above the lid of our bin, the council bin collectors will give you a warning, and if its really bad they will not empty it. I could have made that bin lid close easy…Bri’s a light weight at bin filling.😂
Funny part is, those pizza boxes weren’t ours. We pulled them out to drop our bag in and then couldn’t get the lid closed. Hopefully we got away with it
OK , you can smell diesel leaks a mile away in a boat . If you smell diesel you have a leak . Pinesol cleans it up and gets rid of the smell .
Good tip on the pinesol. Will have to see if we can find some when we are next in a big city.
Kind of curious how much pizza can two eat. Two big pies? Wow I want to party with you
😜 well we usually manage half a pizza and then freeze the rest for an on passage snack. That said, if the challenge is laid down, at least one of us is willing to pick it up 😂
The fix for that tank is as soon as you get somewhere there is a welder to cut out the bottom and weld in a new bottom.
It bothers me you pumped a tank of Diesel into the ocean and have the potential to do it again .
Thankfully we pumped almost all the diesel into bottles onboard. We try not to pump anything overboard until we know what it is. That said, the repair is temporary in our eyes. The last time we did it was 4 years ago so it should last until we get back to a more built up location with access to supplies. (We are a good 1000nm from any marine parts here)
Have you tried playing the lottery? May be time to start so you can replace that cat….😂🤣
😂 cos we are clearly full of luck
Now is there a fueling station in the middle of the ocean.
Oh yeah! We just have to call tow boat USA and they send a coast guard vessel our ways 😂 or not! It’s going to be a fun one getting everything up and running sgsin
This looks like galvanic corrosion is going on there. If the tank has water contact more or less often, you may check if there is a possibility to drain the bilge better or more often or you need some galvanic protection like anodes in there. A humid climate may be enough already on the other hand to start the damage. There are also other methods to protect things inside. Do your research. There's a book in German from the Palstek publishing house. Don't know if there are any English ones about maritime corrosion in particular.
It almost certainly is corrosion due to the prolonged exposure to water that sits int he bottom of the tank following dirty fuel (these tanks are 20 years old and we have plenty of clues that they have never been looked after). Our hope is that the epoxy paint will help create a barrier from external humidity and bilge waters while our new diy fuel polishing system will remove water from building up within the tanks. Hopefully that works to keep us moving until we can source replacements somewhere more built up. The Tuamotus, gambier and the whole of French Polynesia really isn’t set up for boat maintenance on this scale sadly.
@RedSeas @RedSeas Epoxy is an isolating coating, that's right. But if you don't have proper preparation for aluminium, it won't stick very long to it. Also the plug filler may fall off as the fuel gives additional pressure and chemical influence from inside. Hope for your budget it lasts until you can get a replacement tank. Have you thought about using the old tank as a mould for an self built grp tank? Sand the overhanging edges off, coat it with paint and mould release wax and done. Maybe the best chance you have to get a cheap tank very soon. If there's a little space around the old one to take the laminate thickness. The lid can be done separately and is glued on top. Just have a look at the YT channel The Duracell Project, in his videos from about the end of last year you'll find a great description of how he made his tanks. You may also use the boat hull as the outer wall, make a half round tube in the middle of the bottom to let bilge water flow through and just put a lit on top.
Proper preparation would be dry ice blasting for example. Sanding will improve the bond, but it just spreads the corroded surface particles all over the surface. Alu corrodes within seconds with the air.
Maybe one of the hoses leaked?
That was our first thought. Checked through every line to and from the engine. Then went thru checking one way valves on bilge pumps, dripless shaft seals and even the rudder bearings to see what could have caused liquid in the bilge
That tank will always be an issue.
Patches externally will be a problem as the pressure will cause seepage into the bonded epoxy.
Id look at lining the tank with a fuel resistant epoxy.
Something like a vinylester ve140 - mix it and pour it in, and rotate the tank up/down/left right as its setting..
You should easily be able to coat the bottom half of each tank internally.
Also consider getting a jerry can pick-up pipe lid.
There available for standard jerry cans.
That way if a tank fails, you can easily set a jerry can up as a temporary fuel supply. Sure 25 LTRs won't last long, but it will charge battery's or get you into a port.
Totally agree this is a temporary patch to the problem but given the last time we did it was 4 years ago, it should last long enough for us to get somewhere more built up where tanks and supplies are more readily available. (Probably the other side of the pacific). 😊
That’s pretty much what we did to get to anchor. The Nanni engines are crazy fuel efficient so it held out all the way but I might look into 3d printing a custom jerry cap for the job if it happens again. We have a few different 3d printing filament materials and I have a suspicion at least one is diesel resistant for the job.
More superglue!
Donate for a Dream
To the rescue 😜
what is the other tank like
Good question. We took a look and it was looking ok but we can only see so much of course. Hopefully we get somewhere with resources before it becomes an issue.
Glad your leak seems to be fixed but would it not have been better to check that repair before the tank was reinstalled, it would have been a bit late to find out it still leaks after its been reinstalled🤷🏻♂️
Pineapple pizza presumably pacifies the perils of prolonged passages.
Oh do you want to start a war onboard!!?!?!?! 😂
@@RedSeasSorry😅 You said passage pizza and my mind *such as it is* started thinking of words that started with the letter p.
Never had pineapple pizza personally.....ugh! there it goes again
@ i mean pepperoni is right there 😂
We just got here and haven`t watched yet. Now we have to do some deep breathing exercises to prepare for bad news.....
OK so that went well!
Sit tight. We can get thru this together
On a scale of madness to disaster, I think we got away with it. “There’s a big difference between mostly dead and all dead” afterall
Dual thanks do not just explode? 😳 bad luck?
Dual thanks?
I just realised the cat is only 20yrs old and had to have two new engines..seams rather odd. Is that normal on cats of your type?
It’s pretty common for cats that went thru the charter life that Indioko had. The last charter company to own her really didn’t have a clue how to care for a boat and her engines didn’t get any attention or regular services as best we could tell. Whole new papered works for Indioko now tho 😊
Fire up your 3d printer and make a new tank. :) (obviously not a real solution)
Sure but wouldn’t it be a great one if we could?!? 😂
So your bulge was your new fuel tank… not good….reslly not good..😢😱
Exactly!
So the list to date… engine’s, sails, fual tanks, steering, rudders………wait I see what you are doing, your slowly making your 20 yr old boat into a new boat….🤡… Instead of pay in instalments you are paying in 0arts and fix’s…😂🤣😱
Exactly! That’s how we create our own custom cruiser without upsetting any of the manufacturers
They say their is 2 or 3degrees of separation, and even in the middle of the sea on an island someone you meet may now someone that knows someone that knows you in some way. Spooky…
It’s amazing how often that sort of thing happens. Duncan was probably a 2nd cousin or something and we just don’t know it.
Not bad for 5wks rubbish
We do our best to keep waste to a minimum but sometimes we end up with plastic packaging we can’t avoid
One fual tank out minuses a few fingers…..🥸
Well, the cost of doing these repairs