I would pay to see and HEAR all of this information/theory put in action…meaning amp, guitar and effects at hand and go thru these SAME topics but with elements….it would be like a master class approach
It would be interesting as a follow up to this conversation to hear some well known worship riffs but played with the “wrong” tones (blues, classic rock, metal, etc). Might be fun and shed light on why the typical worship tones work so well for the genre.
Nice overview, especially for beginners. There are a huge amount of subjective descriptions in this discussion, so the more specific videos coming should be a lot of fun!
You guys have so much experience and knowledge, and yet, watching/listening to this video was like taking a puppy dog for a walk! It was all over the place! I felt like I was listening to a Jack Kerouac novel, all stream of consciousness. Nothing followed in a logical or linear progression that made it easy to follow and apply in building worship tone from the ground up.
Interesting to hear you say that. We intentionally went thru the signal chain and talked about each part in most common order. We have time stamps and even mentioned this being a broad stroke approach and making separate videos very soon. It was very thought out 🤷🏻♂️
My gosh, been using your Revv D25 preset pack on my QC for the past few weeks and it just absolutely sings through my ESP Eclipse with EMG 81 active pickups - totally my favorite go to preset. For ambient and volume swell moments I’ve been running all the effects in the package (both overdrives, tremolo, delays and added reverse delay, and adjusted reverb to almost maximum decay) and the results are so ethereal and almost hypnotic, especially when you add a wah pedal to the concoction 😆
I didn’t think there was another guy using active pickups for worship!! I’ve got fishman moderns in an Epiphone Les Paul 7-string and it sounds killer through literally everything
@@bryanedwardrupert it’s true. I haven’t had the luxury of making my own board yet, so I just play the passive setting on the pickups, but there really isn’t much of a difference. But man the split coil on the neck pickup is beautiful
I've played my Jim Root Tele in church before. I play a hss dk24 with a floyd frequently. Both pair well with my hx stomp running a plexi on each side with the gain relatively low and an mxr micro amp always on. That same amo setting with my sss strat gives me the Miraculum tone almost perfectly. I don't use the cliche ambient reverbs. I only have a 2ish second 30% wet plate. I don't have tempo synced delays either. 99% of the time I have a 650ms delay on the left and a 380ms delay on the right that's fairly clear, medium-low mix, 5 or so repeats, love the dd500. Then I usually put a 100% 18ms delay on one side only in the stomp. Sounds huge and atmospheric, sounds "churchy", but it's a little unique. It serves the songs great
@@wesley7376 the best way I can describe the ambient tone I’ve been getting lately through EMG active pickups is if you listen to the intro guitar droning Wes Borland produced in Boiler by Limp Bizkit 🔥
A guitar, a UA Lion, delay, reverb and a volume knob (or my JHS Rat pedal into my Fender Amp) 🙂😁 Love the videos and the thought you put into everything you talk about. Keep up the great work.
I've always procrastinated learning how to shape my tone. Thank you for this video, this really motivates me to do it and gives me a good things to start with. God bless you guys!
Love watching you guys. I have learnt so much. Thanks 🙏 so much. And cool to know you’re not far from me. I’ve been blessed to use my God given talent and gifts by playing guitar a really great church in Chapel Hill NC. Been playing many years at home but finally getting to play on a great praise and worship team. I’m using pedals into a Kemper. Thanks again for all your knowledge.
Thanks guys. I recently tried the new Kingtone Fuzz. Great versatile tone and got a big surprise- I can get Xotic with rolled off vol. up to fuzz all with the knob. I am at a new tone plateau after 4 decades. Also beautiful is the Halo dual echo, It sits behind so wonderfully.
I am tube-amp-analog-kid, I dislike the modeling/digital thing immensely. However, Bradford is a pal of our Worship pastor and while he visited our church a few years back he dropped one of his patches into our Helix. Aside from the TubeScreamer in the patch, it is most perfect. I have mad respect for these dudes and their mission to educate and make worship guitar players better and more knowledgeable of their tools and craft. I will always be an tube-amp-analog-kid, until the day I die, but I know these dudes are gear-nerds with an educated perspective...and I enjoy their dialogue, it is good fun.
Suggestion! for a fun video, could you fellas try a challenge!! each man will hand the other a handful of budget pedals along with a random amp and the game is to use what's provided to reach a worship tone!! then compare each other's end sound as you play along with a worship song of choice! Think it'd be funny and interesting how you'd set yourself up! Loving the content keep it up!
Thanks for this. For someone relatively new to playing worship guitar, It would have been great to have heard you play samples of the various things you discussed e.g. the various different delays. Maybe another time?
My only gripe with the Worship Guitar Tone is a lot of folks aren't taking risks with tone. There are SO many other flavors other there that sound amazing. For example, the Supro Thunderbolt, still my FAVORITE patch you guys made. I have gotten so many compliments on my tone from using that capture
In the same vein as using predelay, I find that using the High cut on the ambient effects really helps the notes stay crisp in the midst of big delay and verbs. Let the initial attack be mids and highs, while the ambience is low mids and lows. It gives you separation, and as long as you’re not stepping on the bass line, all is well.
Worship guitar tone to me is a Mesa Mark V on channel 2 crunch (edge of break up) and a Les Paul with Active EMG 57/66 pickups. A boost is nice but no drives or distortion pedals. If the part calls for it a little trim, delay or reverb in the loop. When I do use the clean channel I use a compressor and the amps built in reverb.
Delays, reverb, mod, that is all child's play. The hard part with tone, is nailing...the actual tone. Been at it for years, still buying IR's, trying to find something I love. I'd like to see some in depth EQ instructions, how to get rid of "bad" parts of tone, etc. 32:20, that is basically my effects MO. Make it pleasing to the audience, only musicians are out there crying about 80s Chorus, I think laypeople still love it. When it comes to verb,delay, I go big I find most of it gets eaten in the mix
I like these guys, however I've found that sometimes people add in so many effects that your guitar starts to sound like not a guitar and more like an autotune singing voice. Everybody has their preference, but I prefer my guitar to sound like a guitar.
6:08 set to the middle (for Gibson style), tone and volume full. Get the tone you want, and then modulate the presention on the guitar side. Move the pots around to bring the warmth back. But, since it's balanced on both pickups, you'll get the tone you want on solo pickups
I enjoy watching this channel but just had some thoughts so wanted to share them here. As a Brit living in Africa, an observation that I have made is that when many of us (including myself) speak about ‘worship music’ we find ourselves referencing on the whole, music that is produced out of the USA and maybe Australia. There is a whole world full of worshippers from many different countries, cultures, languages, musical styles and sounds. For example, in our church in South Africa, we can have a set that includes songs from Bethel, Hillsong, and Worship Central, but also local songs in isiXhosa, Zulu, or Afrikaans for example with their own sound as well as language. I get that channels like this one can only speak to what they know, but it would be great to have some more balanced discussion. This could include what worship music looks like in South America, Europe, or Africa for example. Isn’t there a large Spanish-speaking contingent in many US cities for example? Another example is that worship music that has come from Britain has a different sound and the guitar sounds and parts do not follow what is being copied in many of the songs that are coming out of the big name churches and worship leaders in the US. Another thought is that many churches that do not have the resource that some of these bigger churches have so are unable to pull off these parts. Would be great to have a series on using songs in different contexts.
Pretty close to how i set mine up too (worship leader and music director acoustic only for 17 years, moved and started playing bass at a different church and am now being tapped for every position.) I use a valeton gp200 (huge recommendation) and I'm setting up multiple patches for different songs, but, also for my different electrics and i use whichever guitar sounds better with the set that week, and then dial in the tone and reverb settings per song too
You guys should do a fan top 10 favorite helix Patch! Mine- The 64 Ac TM The 67 fender Dlx TM Same God ( song patch) WT Supreme Brian Signiture TM Firm Foundation ( song Patch ) Mars 45 What I see ( song patch) Def Leppard patch Battle Belongs
The only reason why most of the players uses AC30, you can't deny The Edge of U2 influences are there. Try using Hiwatt amps, you can get a lot of clean headroom.
I'm an old school player and play a little crunch with a decent amout of compression on most everything from country gospel to more alternative worship. Not a big fan of the swells and constant wah wah a lot of people do. I play more of a hybrid style mixing blues, classic rock, country, and jazz using a strat or telecaster. As for the amp, fender twin tube or peavey solid state. Typically have my set up a little brighter when using my tele to get that tele spank.
Great video. I was just thinking about the fact that there should be e next more in detail and practical video (for each section), and you guys talk about it at the end of the video. Pls based the video on both real pedals and also the digital world, like the Fractal.
Presence is typically just an even higher frequency arbitrarily chosen by the designer of the product. Depth is typically deeper too. Same idea. But it could also be something entirely different depending on the product.
Just get DD-7 & RV-5 and there you got all the tone capability you will ever need. And yes, DD-7 can ping pong in your ears. Look at the manual setting it up. Also you can get both together under 200 bucks.
Hi guys, Absolutely love your channel and all the guitar tech info you put out. I play guitar for my church and went from a helix floor back to regular pedals mainly because there is nothing like individual guitar pedals . I am having a little trouble getting my board dialed in though. I’m playing through my Fender Hot Rod Deluxe III. Anyway I’m going from my guitar into a tuner pedal to a crybaby, into my Boss overdrive sd-1 to my joyo California into my mooer boost into my joyo tremelo into my stryman cloudburst and into my Boss DD-3 and into my input for not my amp. Any tips to get the best sound out of all of those pedals. I’m working on adjusting the levels and tones currently.
Funny thing is, one of the best worship services I ever played in my delay pedal wasn’t working right so I turned it off. I instantly played more bluesy since I couldn’t hide behind delay. It is more about the playing and not about the gear.
Sure. And we talk about that. But there is still a tone and approach associated with playing worship guitar and people have questions about that and we are just wanting to help with that :)
It has taken me almost 30 years to find my tone. Pulling from all kinds of genres and artists. I didn't really have to change a lot for worship perhaps more drive in places more levels for ambient effects where appropriate. If someone wants to sound the record cool. Want to play note for note awesome. For me tone has to be close and the signature licks or hooks should be there maybe with some personal additions. Just my personal thoughts
Totally on the same page with the gain staging approach discussed here. I like sending a low gain Klon sound into a mid gain Bluesbreaker style (Tallon Electric Dual Drive)... That gives me low + medium gain sounds when separate, then a glorious louder, more overdriven sound when combined. I like that the low gain adds compression and drive to the medium gain, rather than just making the mid gain drive louder. My wife would like to thank anyone that read this for sparing her having to hear me explain gain staging once again. 😆
@@worshiptutorials God bless them! There is absolutely no difference in me explaining why I like a particular tone than my 5 year old son explaining his LEGOs.
I go the opposite way and run a Bluesbreaker (a Walrus Audio Ages) into a Klon-style pedal (a Keeley Oxblood) because I like the extra high-end crispiness the Klon layers on top. The the BB is for punch, and the Klon is for hair. And yes, this channel scratches the "I wanna talk about my tone" itch like nothing else!
@@StevenAlwine I sat to play minutes after posting this and realized I also totally love the Klon pretty gained up into a light Bluesbreaker, so I'm with you on that approach, too! Ha!! The hairier Klon sound was killer!
It would be interesting to see a similar podcast by you guys but in a way where you are yoked as old oxen with young oxen so to speak rather than two prime oxen. That way you would get asked questions that would encourage you to communicate things in layman's terms a bit more. My personal opinion is that this is something that only people with vast experience with pedal boards already can understand the language of and really who needs to learn more, the veteran or the novice? It's really interesting to watch but when you guys get into talking to each other at your level of ability there's so much I just don't understand. I hope this comes across as constructive criticism, it's meant in good spirit. God bless you and thank you for everything you do with amp profiling into the Neural DSP quad cortex. Your content blesses me. God bless you both and all involved in your channel 🙌🏻🕊️
I love playing trumpet in traditional churches with organs for example. Step 1: put mouthpiece in horn. Step 2: Does the conductor say you playing too loud, too soft, or just right? Step 3: there is no Step 3.
I play my guitar using Line6 Tone Studio UX1 with Line6 Pod Farm 2.5 on my computer give me a tone structure that I can replicate in Pod Farm 2.5 on my computer
I have a question. I have a Skyflite (that I was inspired to buy because of WT) and If I use a lead sound on the P-90 bridge pickup I end up with uncontrollable humming feedback after notes start to die out. I've never seen you guys have this issue so any tips on what I might be doing wrong? Maybe I have my pickups too high? All the info I se on P90s says to have them pretty close to the strings to get them sounding their best which I do. Is it just a problem that you get with a P90 through a modeler?
I mean this with kind intentions but My favorite comment musicians make “worship music is so easy”. What that means to me is your gonna wing it on a Sunday with dad rock tone.
What do you use to monitor your tone to set it up? I found using my in-ears vs. headphones vs. FRFR cab can sound very different. Hopefully we can get close enough to not have to tweak a lot at the venue.
I have a set of Barefoot 01 monitors here in the studio - that's what I listen through when dialing things in. They are high end studio monitors with a pretty flat EQ curve. We've made content on this before, but it's nearly impossible to know exactly what your rig is going to sound like in a live venue, because there are way too many variables that are out of your control (and that you cannot replicate). Everything from the acoustics of the room itself to the PA speakers, the amplifier running the speakers, the EQ curve that gets applied to those speakers, the sound board, etc. And then there is the human element, like someone changing the EQ of the PA speakers (and often changing it incorrectly), the person running sound and what they're doing to your channel, etc. The best you can do is to find something that is fairly flat and consistent and use that to dial in your sounds, and then work with the sound people at your church or venue to get things sounding good in the live environment. Often you'll need to make changes live compared to your home listening setup. Here is some more on this topic: ruclips.net/video/XiBVUFBn2EU/видео.html
Iv thought the same a lot cause if it not “feeling it” you will screw up your sound trying to make it better so I like making it sound right in the in ears so you are happy and comfortable with how you will hear yourself and then test your tone on different speakers/set ups to make smaller adjustments to get it balanced out right
Easy… more effects than guitar playing and playing that is boring and repetitious. Most worship songs are written by very amateur guitar players so it pushes the whole baseline down
Worship teams are pretty much glorified cover bands. There's no shame in that. We're pretty much x-copying each other, hance to commonality in pedals and tones. If it helps, why not.
I’m sorry that worship guitar tone is terrible…. i’m a lover of Jesus worshiper of Jesus love playing on the worship team, but I refuse to have to have the “worship guitar tone.” Way too much washy reverb
Bad. The simple answer is “bad tone.” It’s poor sound pumped from a fully stocked pedal board into a PA. I don’t understand the fascination with masking your natural tone. Additionally, electric guitar is just filler noise for bad music in worship songs. Some guy makes a major riff and they keep trying to be innovative but they can’t because of the ole I, V, vi, IV:|| ad nauseam.
You are free to do as you please. We chose to be informative and helpful here. The point of worship music isn’t to be “look at how cool my parts are” anyways. If that’s what you seek in worship you can write your own but even still - that’s not the point.
First! We wanna break all this stuff done further. Let us know what other questions you may have!
I would pay to see and HEAR all of this information/theory put in action…meaning amp, guitar and effects at hand and go thru these SAME topics but with elements….it would be like a master class approach
We will be uploading exactly what you’re describing soon. This was sort of a primer
@@worshiptutorials perfect!!
@@worshiptutorials to me the hardest part it’s balancing the tone so that you can use both neck and bridge pickup…so hard
I’d love to be able to create my own preset on my FM9 and have the sounds that are most important.
It would be interesting as a follow up to this conversation to hear some well known worship riffs but played with the “wrong” tones (blues, classic rock, metal, etc). Might be fun and shed light on why the typical worship tones work so well for the genre.
That’s my point I think. Tone doesn’t matter to some guy far away with one string on a guitar who is just praising the Lord for his heart.
This is one of the best vids out there. Great in-depth overview of electric guitar guys for Jesus!
Nice overview, especially for beginners. There are a huge amount of subjective descriptions in this discussion, so the more specific videos coming should be a lot of fun!
You guys have so much experience and knowledge, and yet, watching/listening to this video was like taking a puppy dog for a walk! It was all over the place! I felt like I was listening to a Jack Kerouac novel, all stream of consciousness. Nothing followed in a logical or linear progression that made it easy to follow and apply in building worship tone from the ground up.
Interesting to hear you say that. We intentionally went thru the signal chain and talked about each part in most common order. We have time stamps and even mentioned this being a broad stroke approach and making separate videos very soon. It was very thought out 🤷🏻♂️
Awesome video guys.
My gosh, been using your Revv D25 preset pack on my QC for the past few weeks and it just absolutely sings through my ESP Eclipse with EMG 81 active pickups - totally my favorite go to preset. For ambient and volume swell moments I’ve been running all the effects in the package (both overdrives, tremolo, delays and added reverse delay, and adjusted reverb to almost maximum decay) and the results are so ethereal and almost hypnotic, especially when you add a wah pedal to the concoction 😆
I didn’t think there was another guy using active pickups for worship!! I’ve got fishman moderns in an Epiphone Les Paul 7-string and it sounds killer through literally everything
@@nolanreimer1193 that’s awesome - they really add something special and distinctive. And it’s fun to bring something unconventional to worship!
@@bryanedwardrupert it’s true. I haven’t had the luxury of making my own board yet, so I just play the passive setting on the pickups, but there really isn’t much of a difference. But man the split coil on the neck pickup is beautiful
I've played my Jim Root Tele in church before. I play a hss dk24 with a floyd frequently. Both pair well with my hx stomp running a plexi on each side with the gain relatively low and an mxr micro amp always on. That same amo setting with my sss strat gives me the Miraculum tone almost perfectly. I don't use the cliche ambient reverbs. I only have a 2ish second 30% wet plate. I don't have tempo synced delays either. 99% of the time I have a 650ms delay on the left and a 380ms delay on the right that's fairly clear, medium-low mix, 5 or so repeats, love the dd500. Then I usually put a 100% 18ms delay on one side only in the stomp. Sounds huge and atmospheric, sounds "churchy", but it's a little unique. It serves the songs great
@@wesley7376 the best way I can describe the ambient tone I’ve been getting lately through EMG active pickups is if you listen to the intro guitar droning Wes Borland produced in Boiler by Limp Bizkit 🔥
I appreciate you guys so much for this discussion! It could have been two hours long and I’d still want more. Keep up the great content!
A guitar, a UA Lion, delay, reverb and a volume knob (or my JHS Rat pedal into my Fender Amp) 🙂😁 Love the videos and the thought you put into everything you talk about. Keep up the great work.
I've always procrastinated learning how to shape my tone. Thank you for this video, this really motivates me to do it and gives me a good things to start with. God bless you guys!
Love watching you guys. I have learnt so much. Thanks 🙏 so much. And cool to know you’re not far from me. I’ve been blessed to use my God given talent and gifts by playing guitar a really great church in Chapel Hill NC. Been playing many years at home but finally getting to play on a great praise and worship team. I’m using pedals into a Kemper. Thanks again for all your knowledge.
Thank you for doing this. This is great information. Love the Channel!!!
Thanks Mark!
I received a compliment Sunday from a non-musician who said, hey you rose above "vanilla" today
Maybe we can start with talking to the completely volunteer sound board operator that doesn’t know how to mix the guitar into the mix
Ha that’s a totally different conversation. But yes. Also we’ve made content on that subject before.
@@worshiptutorialsThat is good, no great! news to me.
Thanks guys. I recently tried the new Kingtone Fuzz. Great versatile tone and got a big surprise- I can get Xotic with rolled off vol. up to fuzz all with the knob. I am at a new tone plateau after 4 decades. Also beautiful is the Halo dual echo, It sits behind so wonderfully.
I forgot all about fee. I just back and listened to that song. That was such a banger back in the day
Thank you guys for sharing this 🖤
Very thankful for all you do. 🙏
Very good gentleman!
Just want to say a quick thank for the free presets for Quad Cortex. I use them all the time at church. THANK YOU
Awesome! Thanks for checking them out! Enjoy!
This is awesome!
Case Study - Aspen Overdrive!!! Such a great pedal!
I am tube-amp-analog-kid, I dislike the modeling/digital thing immensely. However, Bradford is a pal of our Worship pastor and while he visited our church a few years back he dropped one of his patches into our Helix. Aside from the TubeScreamer in the patch, it is most perfect. I have mad respect for these dudes and their mission to educate and make worship guitar players better and more knowledgeable of their tools and craft. I will always be an tube-amp-analog-kid, until the day I die, but I know these dudes are gear-nerds with an educated perspective...and I enjoy their dialogue, it is good fun.
Suggestion! for a fun video, could you fellas try a challenge!! each man will hand the other a handful of budget pedals along with a random amp and the game is to use what's provided to reach a worship tone!! then compare each other's end sound as you play along with a worship song of choice! Think it'd be funny and interesting how you'd set yourself up! Loving the content keep it up!
Thanks for this. For someone relatively new to playing worship guitar, It would have been great to have heard you play samples of the various things you discussed e.g. the various different delays. Maybe another time?
We me ruin having videos coming breaking down each thing! But also - any video on our channel will give you an idea of what the sound is :)
My only gripe with the Worship Guitar Tone is a lot of folks aren't taking risks with tone. There are SO many other flavors other there that sound amazing. For example, the Supro Thunderbolt, still my FAVORITE patch you guys made. I have gotten so many compliments on my tone from using that capture
In the same vein as using predelay, I find that using the High cut on the ambient effects really helps the notes stay crisp in the midst of big delay and verbs. Let the initial attack be mids and highs, while the ambience is low mids and lows. It gives you separation, and as long as you’re not stepping on the bass line, all is well.
The worship team at my church is primarily acoustic, electric, bass and drums most Sundays.
Worship guitar tone to me is a Mesa Mark V on channel 2 crunch (edge of break up) and a Les Paul with Active EMG 57/66 pickups. A boost is nice but no drives or distortion pedals. If the part calls for it a little trim, delay or reverb in the loop. When I do use the clean channel I use a compressor and the amps built in reverb.
Delays, reverb, mod, that is all child's play. The hard part with tone, is nailing...the actual tone. Been at it for years, still buying IR's, trying to find something I love. I'd like to see some in depth EQ instructions, how to get rid of "bad" parts of tone, etc. 32:20, that is basically my effects MO. Make it pleasing to the audience, only musicians are out there crying about 80s Chorus, I think laypeople still love it. When it comes to verb,delay, I go big I find most of it gets eaten in the mix
We’ve got that content coming. Dialing in amps (following along as we dial them in) is next up
@@worshiptutorials what about a "fix my tone" series, where players can send you guys a short sample and discuss the tone, fix it, etc.
@@ShreddingFinn”Fix My Tone”. Welcome to the Fix My stone podcast… I think that’d be a big thing
@@ShreddingFinn Such a good idea!! Cmon Brian Bradford make it come true
I like these guys, however I've found that sometimes people add in so many effects that your guitar starts to sound like not a guitar and more like an autotune singing voice. Everybody has their preference, but I prefer my guitar to sound like a guitar.
6:08 set to the middle (for Gibson style), tone and volume full. Get the tone you want, and then modulate the presention on the guitar side. Move the pots around to bring the warmth back. But, since it's balanced on both pickups, you'll get the tone you want on solo pickups
I enjoy watching this channel but just had some thoughts so wanted to share them here.
As a Brit living in Africa, an observation that I have made is that when many of us (including myself) speak about ‘worship music’ we find ourselves referencing on the whole, music that is produced out of the USA and maybe Australia. There is a whole world full of worshippers from many different countries, cultures, languages, musical styles and sounds. For example, in our church in South Africa, we can have a set that includes songs from Bethel, Hillsong, and Worship Central, but also local songs in isiXhosa, Zulu, or Afrikaans for example with their own sound as well as language. I get that channels like this one can only speak to what they know, but it would be great to have some more balanced discussion. This could include what worship music looks like in South America, Europe, or Africa for example. Isn’t there a large Spanish-speaking contingent in many US cities for example?
Another example is that worship music that has come from Britain has a different sound and the guitar sounds and parts do not follow what is being copied in many of the songs that are coming out of the big name churches and worship leaders in the US.
Another thought is that many churches that do not have the resource that some of these bigger churches have so are unable to pull off these parts. Would be great to have a series on using songs in different contexts.
Pretty close to how i set mine up too (worship leader and music director acoustic only for 17 years, moved and started playing bass at a different church and am now being tapped for every position.)
I use a valeton gp200 (huge recommendation) and I'm setting up multiple patches for different songs, but, also for my different electrics and i use whichever guitar sounds better with the set that week, and then dial in the tone and reverb settings per song too
You guys should do a fan top 10 favorite helix Patch!
Mine-
The 64 Ac TM
The 67 fender Dlx TM
Same God ( song patch)
WT Supreme
Brian Signiture TM
Firm Foundation ( song Patch )
Mars 45
What I see ( song patch)
Def Leppard patch
Battle Belongs
The only reason why most of the players uses AC30, you can't deny The Edge of U2 influences are there. Try using Hiwatt amps, you can get a lot of clean headroom.
I'm an old school player and play a little crunch with a decent amout of compression on most everything from country gospel to more alternative worship. Not a big fan of the swells and constant wah wah a lot of people do. I play more of a hybrid style mixing blues, classic rock, country, and jazz using a strat or telecaster. As for the amp, fender twin tube or peavey solid state. Typically have my set up a little brighter when using my tele to get that tele spank.
Great video. I was just thinking about the fact that there should be e next more in detail and practical video (for each section), and you guys talk about it at the end of the video. Pls based the video on both real pedals and also the digital world, like the Fractal.
Good stuff! Thank you. Could you cover the difference between treble vs presence and bass vs depth in future content?
Presence is typically just an even higher frequency arbitrarily chosen by the designer of the product. Depth is typically deeper too. Same idea. But it could also be something entirely different depending on the product.
Just get DD-7 & RV-5 and there you got all the tone capability you will ever need. And yes, DD-7 can ping pong in your ears. Look at the manual setting it up. Also you can get both together under 200 bucks.
Hi guys,
Absolutely love your channel and all the guitar tech info you put out. I play guitar for my church and went from a helix floor back to regular pedals mainly because there is nothing like individual guitar pedals . I am having a little trouble getting my board dialed in though. I’m playing through my Fender Hot Rod Deluxe III. Anyway I’m going from my guitar into a tuner pedal to a crybaby, into my Boss overdrive sd-1 to my joyo California into my mooer boost into my joyo tremelo into my stryman cloudburst and into my Boss DD-3 and into my input for not my amp. Any tips to get the best sound out of all of those pedals. I’m working on adjusting the levels and tones currently.
What is the best way to even out all my master volumes on presets in in the Helix without effecting tone?
I find it hard to believe you guys don't have a OCD overdrive. That's like a must have classic
Funny thing is, one of the best worship services I ever played in my delay pedal wasn’t working right so I turned it off. I instantly played more bluesy since I couldn’t hide behind delay. It is more about the playing and not about the gear.
Sure. And we talk about that. But there is still a tone and approach associated with playing worship guitar and people have questions about that and we are just wanting to help with that :)
@@worshiptutorials y’all are great. No worries here.
It has taken me almost 30 years to find my tone. Pulling from all kinds of genres and artists. I didn't really have to change a lot for worship perhaps more drive in places more levels for ambient effects where appropriate. If someone wants to sound the record cool. Want to play note for note awesome. For me tone has to be close and the signature licks or hooks should be there maybe with some personal additions. Just my personal thoughts
Totally on the same page with the gain staging approach discussed here. I like sending a low gain Klon sound into a mid gain Bluesbreaker style (Tallon Electric Dual Drive)... That gives me low + medium gain sounds when separate, then a glorious louder, more overdriven sound when combined. I like that the low gain adds compression and drive to the medium gain, rather than just making the mid gain drive louder.
My wife would like to thank anyone that read this for sparing her having to hear me explain gain staging once again. 😆
😂😂 my wife is in the same boat!
@@worshiptutorials God bless them! There is absolutely no difference in me explaining why I like a particular tone than my 5 year old son explaining his LEGOs.
I go the opposite way and run a Bluesbreaker (a Walrus Audio Ages) into a Klon-style pedal (a Keeley Oxblood) because I like the extra high-end crispiness the Klon layers on top. The the BB is for punch, and the Klon is for hair. And yes, this channel scratches the "I wanna talk about my tone" itch like nothing else!
@@StevenAlwine I sat to play minutes after posting this and realized I also totally love the Klon pretty gained up into a light Bluesbreaker, so I'm with you on that approach, too! Ha!! The hairier Klon sound was killer!
Ope. I misread your reply but ya... I was playing around it's all great!
It would be interesting to see a similar podcast by you guys but in a way where you are yoked as old oxen with young oxen so to speak rather than two prime oxen. That way you would get asked questions that would encourage you to communicate things in layman's terms a bit more. My personal opinion is that this is something that only people with vast experience with pedal boards already can understand the language of and really who needs to learn more, the veteran or the novice? It's really interesting to watch but when you guys get into talking to each other at your level of ability there's so much I just don't understand. I hope this comes across as constructive criticism, it's meant in good spirit. God bless you and thank you for everything you do with amp profiling into the Neural DSP quad cortex. Your content blesses me. God bless you both and all involved in your channel 🙌🏻🕊️
Can you guys put this on apple podcasts so i can hear in the car?
When you guys are talking about running effects into the amp, are you running directly into the front or using the effects loop?
Straight in. No effects loops. And typically it’s stereo (wet) effects into two amps.
How do you guys high-cut or low-cut your reverbs when playing lead or rhythm electric guitar?
Are you an "unforeseen kiss" or "sloppy wet kiss" kind of amp tone?
Have you guys done anything with a Valeton GP200? I’m using one and just wing it. But would like some tips etc
We don’t have any of the Valeton modelers.
Since everyone can’t afford a Helix what budget rigs would you recommend?
POD Go 👍🏻
@@worshiptutorials The Valeton GP200 is better than PodGo.. more modern with XLR & midi output jacks
I love playing trumpet in traditional churches with organs for example. Step 1: put mouthpiece in horn. Step 2: Does the conductor say you playing too loud, too soft, or just right? Step 3: there is no Step 3.
There should not be such a thing as ”worhip guitar tone”.
Succinctly and perfectly said…thank goodness I’m not the only one who realizes this.
I play my guitar using Line6 Tone Studio UX1 with Line6 Pod Farm 2.5 on my computer give me a tone structure that I can replicate in Pod Farm 2.5 on my computer
I have a question. I have a Skyflite (that I was inspired to buy because of WT) and If I use a lead sound on the P-90 bridge pickup I end up with uncontrollable humming feedback after notes start to die out. I've never seen you guys have this issue so any tips on what I might be doing wrong? Maybe I have my pickups too high? All the info I se on P90s says to have them pretty close to the strings to get them sounding their best which I do. Is it just a problem that you get with a P90 through a modeler?
I mean this with kind intentions but My favorite comment musicians make “worship music is so easy”. What that means to me is your gonna wing it on a Sunday with dad rock tone.
What do you use to monitor your tone to set it up? I found using my in-ears vs. headphones vs. FRFR cab can sound very different. Hopefully we can get close enough to not have to tweak a lot at the venue.
I have a set of Barefoot 01 monitors here in the studio - that's what I listen through when dialing things in. They are high end studio monitors with a pretty flat EQ curve. We've made content on this before, but it's nearly impossible to know exactly what your rig is going to sound like in a live venue, because there are way too many variables that are out of your control (and that you cannot replicate).
Everything from the acoustics of the room itself to the PA speakers, the amplifier running the speakers, the EQ curve that gets applied to those speakers, the sound board, etc. And then there is the human element, like someone changing the EQ of the PA speakers (and often changing it incorrectly), the person running sound and what they're doing to your channel, etc.
The best you can do is to find something that is fairly flat and consistent and use that to dial in your sounds, and then work with the sound people at your church or venue to get things sounding good in the live environment. Often you'll need to make changes live compared to your home listening setup.
Here is some more on this topic: ruclips.net/video/XiBVUFBn2EU/видео.html
Iv thought the same a lot cause if it not “feeling it” you will screw up your sound trying to make it better so I like making it sound right in the in ears so you are happy and comfortable with how you will hear yourself and then test your tone on different speakers/set ups to make smaller adjustments to get it balanced out right
WT should create a podcast...
Thanks! This sort of is a podcast: ruclips.net/p/PLFoWUPj5_W1Br-K-_FP1djkYPk9eI6eTs
@@worshiptutorials live podcast?
A bit of dirt, lots of reverb & a lot of delay ….
Just checking in to see if it’s basically shoegaze Pedalboard as I suspect.
Are you guys gonna review the PRS SE NF3?
So what I’m hearing is don’t sound like John Mayer for worship and you’ll be OK? Lololololol this is funny 😆
JM2C : Your videos are too long. Seems to be a trend but lots of us don't have this much time.
Easy… more effects than guitar playing and playing that is boring and repetitious. Most worship songs are written by very amateur guitar players so it pushes the whole baseline down
Worship teams are pretty much glorified cover bands. There's no shame in that. We're pretty much x-copying each other, hance to commonality in pedals and tones. If it helps, why not.
I’m sorry that worship guitar tone is terrible…. i’m a lover of Jesus worshiper of Jesus love playing on the worship team, but I refuse to have to have the “worship guitar tone.” Way too much washy reverb
You have to dial it in. It also helps the parts sound like the parts
Tell us you don't know how to play contemporary worship guitar without telling us you don't know how to play contemporary worship guitar 😂
Worship guitar tone sucks
Bad. The simple answer is “bad tone.”
It’s poor sound pumped from a fully stocked pedal board into a PA. I don’t understand the fascination with masking your natural tone.
Additionally, electric guitar is just filler noise for bad music in worship songs. Some guy makes a major riff and they keep trying to be innovative but they can’t because of the ole I, V, vi, IV:|| ad nauseam.
You are free to do as you please. We chose to be informative and helpful here. The point of worship music isn’t to be “look at how cool my parts are” anyways. If that’s what you seek in worship you can write your own but even still - that’s not the point.
That’s just like my opinion, man. It’s RUclips. Sorry if that put you all off. I just don’t think it matters if it doesn’t matter.
nigel hendroff's badcat started it.