Riot: Viktor W; "We've heard feedback about Viktor's W being an unsatisfying and not powerful ability" Aatrox mains: You "bug fixed" my W and leave me on Read every season, and this shit still doesn't pull
Viks W has been bugged for years aswell so it sometimes just doesn't stun. That bug gets fixed now. So Aatrox mains just need get another VGU going lol.
@@thenorg7652 Its 53.7% on lolalytics right now, which is the stat site that is supposedly closest to riots data. probably cant link it to you without getting the comment banned from yt.
@@jacobmantzaris1730 yeah they did nerf her ult but shes still broken, the broken part about Caitlyn is her passive, the ultimate was already overnerfed anyway i dont think anyone was still complaining about it at this point, i dont personally find it fair how this champ can chunk off more than a third of your hp with a single combo of 2 skills in the early while also being able to crit for around 1700 dmg on a single auto in late game
Everyone says how leblanc fails in late game while i know how many times i saw pro games won by just late game pokes Q+R, at some point your adc gets -80% health each 20 sec
A lot of champs can do that on late game…lb is broken late only if enemy team cant position well. She is assasin after all. Also she can sideline safe bcs of her mobility. But there r definatelly much worse champions to play against She is broken only as a counterpick.
@@yuujiendless7719 thanks. She still has almost same weaknesses as many assassins. F.e. If you stun her, you can kill her, she's squishy and still has cooldowns she needs to wait for
I think you just dont remember the games in which she doesnt do anything, because they are forgteful...... once she gets rolling, she is very oppressive, literally what neme said, also pros usually dont draft her into bad match ups/team comps, so you see less of her downside.
@@TheMaddinho i didn't say she is another kassadin, but certainly this poke late game is point and click, tone of damage and with E recast basically no counter. It doesn't make her late game champ, but still a strong champ
Bro EVERYTHING can do that to an ADC though, so that isnt a good argument. And as an ADC main I would rather plays vs Le Blanc than Skarner or Ksante. Those are thee real problem champs
You know whats going on right? They are purposely overbuffing Viktor so his playrate spikes after his VGU because competitive players don't care about lore or visuals. So the numbers will show a nice playrate increase and they will deem the rework a success. A month or 2 later they walk his numbers back and he falls back into obscurity and everyone forgets about it. What they've done to Viktor mains is not right. Absolutely horrific the way they've been treated.
@@jantung0 i've played league for over a decade now and i think his rework is fine. if anything the "tourists" are all of the people coming out of the woodwork to hate on the viktor rework when i haven't seen someone play viktor once for the past six months, even after arcane. he needed an update and his arcane design is good. obviously, the in-game models have some issues but they're at least listening to some feedback and giving them updates on the pbe.
@@lolgalaxy4406 yes but you cant make the Champ broken cause His kit is terrible. There are way too many Things that need to be changed in Order for him to be broken. And Spoiler, the ult and Mana Changes + W Change isnt it
the talon nerf is very surprising me considering jungle and midlane talon both sit on basically 50.0% winrate which i thought was what riot is always aiming for
not always, august has said this a lot. Depending on the champion they are comfortable with some champions sitting on 48% or 52%. This depends on how difficult the champion is to play and how many people play it.
@@dylans9390 I think he said something about assassins being in the low % we because otps can 1v9 any game once their win rate is high enough. I could be wrong though this was a while ago
i think viktor needed some bigger rework. Like if they are gona arcane him up, he should have gotten some evolution around the hexcore again, like having his own personal item that he upgraded over time. It didnt work before but i thought tthat part of his kite was super cool, now its just free upgrade to his spells as the game goes on, kind of boring. same thing as syndra, kaisa, smolder, etc. the item thing was super unique to him.
Maybe if they changed, Twitch is W, and made so that he's W empowers the first 3 autos while adding like a 30 - 40% slow. Would bring back the glide experience twitch used to have without it being too overpowered.
They nerfed her last patch no? And her item. I think rn her pickrate is just really high, part cause of arcane. If you want cait counter, sivir is great
@@HopeArk her ult wasnt and isnt the problem. Nerfs arent inherently capable of dealing with the issues on a champion that are problematic. Her passive is and has been the problem for a long while, reducing her ult's damage is irrevelant towards resolving the issues that people have against her.
I don't like what they are doing with viktor, i don't understand why they are refusing to listen to all the vik players, and their general playerbase aswell, everyone, and i mean everyone knows viktor w is a fkn problem, everytime it's good, it's mega, mega oppressive, and if it's not good, but viktor is sitll good, it's because his e and q are 2 tools that just make him unable to be traded with, and unable to avoid getting poked by, because they have to overloard those 2 spells, to make up for the fact he literally doesn't have a w, whnever the w is bad. Imo, his w needs complete reword, his e needs tuning, and his q shouldn't have the shield, maybe his e somehow if it hits a champion u get the shield, or something. The ms on q is good, the shield makes it very unskilled to trade with viktor. So E + Q minor rework (maybe full rework on q if they can't balance it), and full reword on w, his q and r are the 2 abilites that feel the best 2 use, his e is very cool to use, but vsing it can feel pretty shit.
I Unironically think Viktor support could be a thing, with his W being more consistent and trading abilities being buffed, all he needs to do is make sure to share the cannon with his adc and ban Pyke, he should be fine in any matcht up and his scaling would be rewarded while his trades would remain ok
lmfao no, you would never stack passive. maybe viktor apc, but you would pretty much have to concede lane early AND have a powerful support to even survive to 15. you also need followup cc for viktor w to actually work, so apc is way more viable
they need to remove heart steel from the game, champs like mundo or skarner, with total hp scaling get broken in low or mid elo becuase of the item. They get infinite hp and damage and tankyness. High elo, they just dont let them stack the item. But low elo is often just brain dead perma fights, which is fun for them I get it, but higher elo with more macro and less perma fight, champs like mundo become usless, becuase he is being balanced around the heartsteel item giveing him like a free bonus 1,000 warmogs of hp
04:48 best yi in the world hegre. nah, its not trhat hard to pull off and u dontr go 100% crit anymore anyways u go standar titanic hydra nvori guninso then inf edge and blodothbister or colector if u want ful ldmg
Ap items got nerfed just before the "durability patch 2.0" also these are champion nerfs/buffs, not items. Lastly they are changing hearthsteel next patch, its getting reverted back to scale from total health (how it used to) and not item health and other minor buffs or nerfs to tank items.
@@diewarrior9012 I mean overal with split 3 Mage and tank items received smaller nerfs to them than the others leading to both Tank and Mage Champs to be overperforming in general compared to other classes, so instead of slowly nerfing 1 by 1, champ nerf items and then nerf those specific champs that are still too strong
he say than twitch is hard to balance!? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! omg come dude if that champ is hard then what he thinks about yone and oh boy riot want to players forget the horrible rework meanwhile sell viktor's skins like crazy
This ability is not great vs skilled players. It is SOOOOO easy to hit her with skillshots, because she locks herself into a slow dash where she can be hit and it only in a straight line. That ability is only a problem in low elo
mundo just lost his only actually functioning build and they are nerfing him ,insanity , i am so glad wow classic is back and i dont have to put up with this shit
@@AstrumDeus??? but if you buff kassadin and he becomes meta, all mages become unplayable as you dont have 2 bans for him + galio, which in return, brings back the ADC mid lane meta... what even is your point?
They keep nerfing mundo cause people refuse to build bork/ldr Just remove the mundo mini rework, mundo was fine being an early game bruiser/tank but they made him into this scalling champ that doesn't even outscale most champs, he's just op into certain comps and can 1vs9
Mundo in late game has 500 ad 8000 health and has a immortality button for 12 seconds. I cant think of a single champ that can outscale mundo including kayle/kassadin
@denizhangupemkdk9412 I can! I can name a few toplaners that ourscale him : fiora, aatrox, vayne, gwen, nasus, mordekaiser, riven, olaf, volibear and so many more just outheal his damage and can 1vs1 him in sidelane I will name a few junglers that make the game unplayable for mundo : yi, red kayn, belveth, briar Now some toplaners that can solo dive mundo and make it impossible for him to ever scale : kled, ambessa, irelia, illaoi, zac, tryndamere, aurora I can keep on going and going Mundo isn't a good champ, unless he's the last pick into a jayce, ekko, ziggs, jhin, xerarh type of comp Unless you pick him into 0 tank busters you can't 1vs9 cause you have a champion weaker than kayle and nasus early, that scales worse than both
Riot:
Viktor W; "We've heard feedback about Viktor's W being an unsatisfying and not powerful ability"
Aatrox mains: You "bug fixed" my W and leave me on Read every season, and this shit still doesn't pull
Viks W has been bugged for years aswell so it sometimes just doesn't stun. That bug gets fixed now. So Aatrox mains just need get another VGU going lol.
Yi has like 53-54% WR in diamond so idk why he even needs a buff at all..
it is in fact 51% at a, for master yi, low pick rate which means hes bad. Hes also invisible in any elo above master at sub 2% pick rate
@@thenorg7652 Its 53.7% on lolalytics right now, which is the stat site that is supposedly closest to riots data. probably cant link it to you without getting the comment banned from yt.
@@thenorg7652 it is 53.7% rn on lolalytics which is supposedly the stat site closest to riots data.
@@thenorg7652 cant l1nk it to you without yt b4nn1ng my c0mm3nt.
@@darealrulezbreaker9493 it shows raw stats. Since the average diamond+ wr is 52.5% the converted wr is around 50.9%
they didnt nerf caitlyn LMAO
Arcane, they’re never nerfing any of those champs
her prestige is still up in the shop, so thats not gonna happen for the next 2 weeks.
@@desgracainferno You people make no sense though, they nerfed her on the patch they dropped the arcane skin?
@@jacobmantzaris1730 yeah they did nerf her ult but shes still broken, the broken part about Caitlyn is her passive, the ultimate was already overnerfed anyway i dont think anyone was still complaining about it at this point, i dont personally find it fair how this champ can chunk off more than a third of your hp with a single combo of 2 skills in the early while also being able to crit for around 1700 dmg on a single auto in late game
LESBIANS KEEP WINNING
They give viktor benefits for getting cannon, mean while smolder, *ONE*
Everyone says how leblanc fails in late game while i know how many times i saw pro games won by just late game pokes Q+R, at some point your adc gets -80% health each 20 sec
A lot of champs can do that on late game…lb is broken late only if enemy team cant position well. She is assasin after all. Also she can sideline safe bcs of her mobility. But there r definatelly much worse champions to play against
She is broken only as a counterpick.
@@yuujiendless7719 thanks. She still has almost same weaknesses as many assassins. F.e. If you stun her, you can kill her, she's squishy and still has cooldowns she needs to wait for
I think you just dont remember the games in which she doesnt do anything, because they are forgteful...... once she gets rolling, she is very oppressive, literally what neme said, also pros usually dont draft her into bad match ups/team comps, so you see less of her downside.
@@TheMaddinho i didn't say she is another kassadin, but certainly this poke late game is point and click, tone of damage and with E recast basically no counter. It doesn't make her late game champ, but still a strong champ
Bro EVERYTHING can do that to an ADC though, so that isnt a good argument. And as an ADC main I would rather plays vs Le Blanc than Skarner or Ksante. Those are thee real problem champs
You know whats going on right? They are purposely overbuffing Viktor so his playrate spikes after his VGU because competitive players don't care about lore or visuals. So the numbers will show a nice playrate increase and they will deem the rework a success. A month or 2 later they walk his numbers back and he falls back into obscurity and everyone forgets about it. What they've done to Viktor mains is not right. Absolutely horrific the way they've been treated.
I think the rework is epic. He looks SO BAD with his current game design
@@Bismarck-Si agree, most of his (pre VGU) skins look goofy
its just a failure of a rework only arcane tourist and people who never played him think its good
@@jantung0 i've played league for over a decade now and i think his rework is fine. if anything the "tourists" are all of the people coming out of the woodwork to hate on the viktor rework when i haven't seen someone play viktor once for the past six months, even after arcane. he needed an update and his arcane design is good. obviously, the in-game models have some issues but they're at least listening to some feedback and giving them updates on the pbe.
Lmao viktor mains all 2 of them are fuming at the rework where he looks objectively better than that old pile of garb
I think Viktor W is just a boring spell and the wish was for a different apilty rather than just a slight chance
Riot Just trying to make Viktor broken to make people forget about the failure of its VGU.
low elo take but okay my guy
@@Royvenom how? the vgu is horrid
@@lolgalaxy4406 it's not perfect but this level of crying is ridiculous it's not even bad
@@lolgalaxy4406 yes but you cant make the Champ broken cause His kit is terrible. There are way too many Things that need to be changed in Order for him to be broken. And Spoiler, the ult and Mana Changes + W Change isnt it
@@eebbaa5560 its horrid, he's called the machine herald, not the twink omen
Maby it’s just me but is Talon even decent right now?
I don’t get the nerfs I haven’t seen that champ in months by now
Bcs they want him mid
the talon nerf is very surprising me considering jungle and midlane talon both sit on basically 50.0% winrate which i thought was what riot is always aiming for
not always, august has said this a lot. Depending on the champion they are comfortable with some champions sitting on 48% or 52%. This depends on how difficult the champion is to play and how many people play it.
Ya but imo talon isn’t that good right now to warrant a nerf
Wasn't his mr the highest in the game?
@@dylans9390 I think he said something about assassins being in the low % we because otps can 1v9 any game once their win rate is high enough. I could be wrong though this was a while ago
@@rayman3320 sounds arbitrary but then again so is everything else he says
first rumble buff in like 4 patches. not sure what hes talking about
Look back more
i think viktor needed some bigger rework. Like if they are gona arcane him up, he should have gotten some evolution around the hexcore again, like having his own personal item that he upgraded over time. It didnt work before but i thought tthat part of his kite was super cool, now its just free upgrade to his spells as the game goes on, kind of boring. same thing as syndra, kaisa, smolder, etc. the item thing was super unique to him.
We "buffed" ww again...yet to see an actual buff...
They forgot to nerf Caitlyn Riven and the Eclipse/Synderer sky combo again, else fine patch.
Caitlyn will get nerfed once this battle pass is over
Playing rell after rework is like playng ramus with out W
BUT I DON'T WANNA STAY AGAINST VIKTOR IN MID I'M ALREADY BANNING LEBLANC
i think yi could go bork into, yuntail, into ie into lord dominic into navori if not you can change navori with immortal shield bow
when this patch go on live? It should be today morning
Thanksgiving extends the current patch by one week.
Maybe if they changed, Twitch is W, and made so that he's W empowers the first 3 autos while adding like a 30 - 40% slow. Would bring back the glide experience twitch used to have without it being too overpowered.
The people who think w is a bad ability is dumb af it is basically zilian's e qwq combo with out the damage it is basically 3 seconds of cc
bruh they didn't nerf Cait because her limited skin is still in the shop😅classic riot
They nerfed her last patch no? And her item. I think rn her pickrate is just really high, part cause of arcane. If you want cait counter, sivir is great
@@HopeArk her ult wasnt and isnt the problem. Nerfs arent inherently capable of dealing with the issues on a champion that are problematic. Her passive is and has been the problem for a long while, reducing her ult's damage is irrevelant towards resolving the issues that people have against her.
I don't like what they are doing with viktor, i don't understand why they are refusing to listen to all the vik players, and their general playerbase aswell, everyone, and i mean everyone knows viktor w is a fkn problem, everytime it's good, it's mega, mega oppressive, and if it's not good, but viktor is sitll good, it's because his e and q are 2 tools that just make him unable to be traded with, and unable to avoid getting poked by, because they have to overloard those 2 spells, to make up for the fact he literally doesn't have a w, whnever the w is bad.
Imo, his w needs complete reword, his e needs tuning, and his q shouldn't have the shield, maybe his e somehow if it hits a champion u get the shield, or something. The ms on q is good, the shield makes it very unskilled to trade with viktor.
So E + Q minor rework (maybe full rework on q if they can't balance it), and full reword on w, his q and r are the 2 abilites that feel the best 2 use, his e is very cool to use, but vsing it can feel pretty shit.
Looks like Master Yi gonna get banned every match i play
are you iron
@unruh_8470 yep. Still stuck in Iron
@@Lukantije based.
I Unironically think Viktor support could be a thing, with his W being more consistent and trading abilities being buffed, all he needs to do is make sure to share the cannon with his adc and ban Pyke, he should be fine in any matcht up and his scaling would be rewarded while his trades would remain ok
lmfao no, you would never stack passive. maybe viktor apc, but you would pretty much have to concede lane early AND have a powerful support to even survive to 15. you also need followup cc for viktor w to actually work, so apc is way more viable
they need to remove heart steel from the game, champs like mundo or skarner, with total hp scaling get broken in low or mid elo becuase of the item. They get infinite hp and damage and tankyness. High elo, they just dont let them stack the item. But low elo is often just brain dead perma fights, which is fun for them I get it, but higher elo with more macro and less perma fight, champs like mundo become usless, becuase he is being balanced around the heartsteel item giveing him like a free bonus 1,000 warmogs of hp
04:48 best yi in the world hegre. nah, its not trhat hard to pull off and u dontr go 100% crit anymore anyways u go standar titanic hydra nvori guninso then inf edge and blodothbister or colector if u want ful ldmg
Still no AP/Tank item nerfs😢😢
Which tank items are op? Genuine question
@@diewarrior9012 None
Ap items got nerfed just before the "durability patch 2.0" also these are champion nerfs/buffs, not items. Lastly they are changing hearthsteel next patch, its getting reverted back to scale from total health (how it used to) and not item health and other minor buffs or nerfs to tank items.
@@diewarrior9012 I mean overal with split 3 Mage and tank items received smaller nerfs to them than the others leading to both Tank and Mage Champs to be overperforming in general compared to other classes, so instead of slowly nerfing 1 by 1, champ nerf items and then nerf those specific champs that are still too strong
@@benaslazauskas9401 after split 3 both mages and and tanks are op
VIKTOR!!!
"Twitch Q makes him hard to balance, lets buff it"
hes talking about q stealth but okay
twitch buff is nothing xdddd
fuck the rat
He's already broken so makes sense
Surely 46 % champ is broken XD@@conniefan123
he say than twitch is hard to balance!? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! omg come dude if that champ is hard then what he thinks about yone
and oh boy riot want to players forget the horrible rework meanwhile sell viktor's skins like crazy
this dude must be an adc main becuase he just dislikes assassins XD
Leblanc W is the my most hatef abiliry in the game, the fact she can recall as she wish is not healthy to me
Zed:
@magnov983 Zed it's only with his R and it's predictable, you can dodge his Q, leblanc you mostly only can dodge the E
Its also only one posible dash, unlike lb W which can be dash + return @@Kywu
This ability is not great vs skilled players. It is SOOOOO easy to hit her with skillshots, because she locks herself into a slow dash where she can be hit and it only in a straight line. That ability is only a problem in low elo
Am I the only one feeling there is just too much shields in the game ? (cf. Ambessa and Riven nerfs).
Ig we need more shield breaking abilities.
@@GoldenStorm-gs7lxor just shield breaking items?
man i whish there was a reducing shield item ... oh wait
Buff kassawin fr
Funny seeing these silver players comment their balancing opinions
mundo just lost his only actually functioning build and they are nerfing him ,insanity , i am so glad wow classic is back and i dont have to put up with this shit
Bro is mad about a 0.2% nerf at max rank
Still no Kassadin buff. LMAO
No one wants kassadin to be meta bro
@@vert1No one wants Adc and meta
Why do u want to bring Hitler back to life?
@@AstrumDeus??? but if you buff kassadin and he becomes meta, all mages become unplayable as you dont have 2 bans for him + galio, which in return, brings back the ADC mid lane meta... what even is your point?
@@desgracainferno Buffing kassadin do not necesary make him meta xd. Right now he is so bad i dont even consider him as champion
They keep nerfing mundo cause people refuse to build bork/ldr
Just remove the mundo mini rework, mundo was fine being an early game bruiser/tank but they made him into this scalling champ that doesn't even outscale most champs, he's just op into certain comps and can 1vs9
Mundo in late game has 500 ad 8000 health and has a immortality button for 12 seconds. I cant think of a single champ that can outscale mundo including kayle/kassadin
@denizhangupemkdk9412 I can!
I can name a few toplaners that ourscale him : fiora, aatrox, vayne, gwen, nasus, mordekaiser, riven, olaf, volibear and so many more just outheal his damage and can 1vs1 him in sidelane
I will name a few junglers that make the game unplayable for mundo : yi, red kayn, belveth, briar
Now some toplaners that can solo dive mundo and make it impossible for him to ever scale : kled, ambessa, irelia, illaoi, zac, tryndamere, aurora
I can keep on going and going
Mundo isn't a good champ, unless he's the last pick into a jayce, ekko, ziggs, jhin, xerarh type of comp
Unless you pick him into 0 tank busters you can't 1vs9 cause you have a champion weaker than kayle and nasus early, that scales worse than both
bork got giganerfed and LDR does not have an antitank passive anymore. bait used to be believeable
@@magnov983 sorry mundo has 53 percent wr in your elo, in mine he has 49 percent and goes down the higher elo u go
@@sinogmemes559 if only winrate represented the actual balance problems. should only remind you that invincible karthus had 80% instead of 100.
4:45 not him forgetting you don't need crit on navori anymore lmao