Never saw or heard Nymaera before but I really liked the way he presented the LJL, very pleasant to listen to and seems to be pretty knowledgeable of the league and the game in general.
That Unicorns IEM run was what hooked me to pro league play. TF Kikis and rookie PoE shitting on TSM and Bjergsen's hopes and dreams had this ethereal feeling about it. Sheepy was a straight fire guest, hope to see him on shows more as I think he plays a modest part in league history. Well accomplished coach from what I can see and eloquent guest.
Watched it yesterday,here just to comment for the algorithm,amazing episode with amazing guests.Especially Nymaera and Sheepy definitely should get them back again.
Loved the insight in the minor regions, specially with competent guests. Love to see more with Nymaera in the future. I watched it yd in the twitch vod.
I'm already very flattered to have been involved, I hope everything came across well and I also hope DFM prove me wrong and give us a miracle group C upset!
Really enjoyed the Sheepy, Maestro and Nymaera segments. Didn't help that Dagdas mic was low but I have to say as an English LPL fan I'm kind of disappointed with how he did, think he can improve clarity and sentence structure when speaking and it comes across in his casting as well, with repeating the same opening phrases a lot (still love you mate). Also Wolf went full COPIUM when talking about Khan being better for DWG than Nuguri, Khan is just not the player he used to be years ago, and no other tops compare to Nuguri right now, anyone who watched LPL playoffs can tell you that
looks like Pentanet missed the memo that they weren't supposed to shit all over UOL in that tie breaker. happy for them Biopanther and Pabu are amazing players. glad that we get to see more!
I'm pleasantly surprised how eloquent Nymaera is not having seen any content of him concerning league this guy should be a regular guest (sadly unless LJL has to be good for a couple of years to have that happen) but a man can dream
Sheepy's point about more calm analysis and less insane hype over everything: fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck yes. I hate the constant hype. It turns out that if you act like everything is insane hype, every bad play is the most awful of awful and every OK play is just insanity, it turns everything into a boring stream of yelling. If everything is sensational, nothing is sensational indeed.
Pretty strong disagreement on the TOP lane in LPL finals. While Nuguri clearly dominated lane Xiaohu played some teamfights beautifully on Gnar as well. Even in the games they loss he gave them a change to comeback with beautiful teamfighting engages, ults, and timing. The game consists of phases and Xiaohu's FULL gameplay was pretty strong in that series. I would say Xiaohu and LWX (played shet) carried that series for RNG. One bent but didn't break while the other one shattered into a million pieces.
Khan played out of his mind during his last international tournament (discounting last year's fake MSI). He was arguably the best toplaner at worlds 2019 and at worst top 2. Yes, he had bad international tournaments, but his most recent one certainly was not that.
3:35:40 What about Tabe, the ultimate backstabbing snitch? Introduced as an upstanding character. Very humble, supportive and likeable. In time he might slip up here and there but it is played off as naivety or awkwardness. But in the end, when the time is right to deliver the most fatal blow, it's revealed it was all intentional to undermine and sabotage. He was a heel all along.
YES THORIN. DOUBLE ELIMINATION! and... It astounds me why no pros are playing Mao'kai. The champion is actually historically GREAT. ALL CC. The root will follow champions through their abilities, the ultimate (while not S6 old mao' ult
The reason that he was underrated going into 2021 spring was that he was pretty damn average all throughout 2020 in the LPL. He was appropriately rated going into 2021 and people's opinion of him is still likely tainted by how he performed in 2020.
I might be wrong but I think I read the problem wasn't leaving the country, I read that they weren't allowed to come back if they left. And that's a bigger deal.
Wolfs opinion on Nuguri vs Khan is insane to me cause the great thing about Nuguri is that he’s just the best overall. he plays great on weak side and if he gets resources he snowballs out of control and when he gets to team fights there is no top laner that plays even close to as good as him
From Chinese social media source (This is good news for you NA fans) C9 has been dumpstering RNG in scrims, something like 70% win rate against RNG, not sure how reliable this source is thou. RNG has been doing horrible in scrims is the news that is currently circulating in Chinese social media right now.
I'm the same as Monte, I can appreciate the ideas and concepts that some anime take but the execution of it is more often than not piss poor. Like wading through an endless cesspool to find nuggets of gold. Rather read manga that are more down to earth and not fixated on serial bandwagons to appease the anime crowd. That's the thing, much anime has a superficial and braindead way to present a narrative for narrow-minded kids.
Regarding Astralis and Denmark Thorin: it's actually much worse, but you risk having to give some props to Astralis, which might be a little bit out of your element ;) Like I noted in the comment thread to the most recent Four Horsemen episode, I work as a political advisor in Danish parliament. In 2019 member of parliament Naser Khader pushed through a grant of 1 million dollars in taxpayer money to Danish e-sport and much of the money was ear-marked to... *drum roll*..: RFRSH, who still owned Astralis at the time. Now I'll give you a penny if you can tell me which e-sports team Naser Khader's son might be a huge fan of? ;) The whole thing became a controversy, of course, and that's where the props come in: Astralis (or rather, RFRSH) ended up declining the grant and demanded the money be more broadly assigned to Danish elite e-sports as a whole. Though of course, you might argue they did this under pressure. You can contact me on caspergronemann@gmail.com or on Twitter @SandGronemann if you want details.
Legend of the Galactic Heroes is such a masterpiece. I knew all along Thorin would have amazing taste in anime. Too bad most anime creators nowadays are blinded by greed and release titles that only appeal to mainstream audiences with iq of two digits.
A little sad Bengi wasnt brought up in misunderstood players, dude got to play on turbo stacked lineups his entire career and especially when he played that one nidalee game in (I want to say 2016?) and won. Everyone was gassing up him as this insane player who played a champ he had never played before and hard carried in a clutch moment against rox when in reality guy got mega carried by his team and had been complete ass the entire year which is why BLANK of all fuckin people were starting over him.
The difference is Bengi had success in 2013 and 2015. Being bad in a different iteration of the meta and then still being in form when the meta shifted towards his comfort zone to smurf again is actually crazy. Compare that to other players who had a big peak but then became hot garbage like broxah or mlxd.
Love the mega episodes. Brings me back to the old SI days
Excactly my thought
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Never saw or heard Nymaera before but I really liked the way he presented the LJL, very pleasant to listen to and seems to be pretty knowledgeable of the league and the game in general.
Yeah well spoken for sure
That Unicorns IEM run was what hooked me to pro league play. TF Kikis and rookie PoE shitting on TSM and Bjergsen's hopes and dreams had this ethereal feeling about it. Sheepy was a straight fire guest, hope to see him on shows more as I think he plays a modest part in league history. Well accomplished coach from what I can see and eloquent guest.
Watched it yesterday,here just to comment for the algorithm,amazing episode with amazing guests.Especially Nymaera and Sheepy definitely should get them back again.
Loved the insight in the minor regions, specially with competent guests. Love to see more with Nymaera in the future. I watched it yd in the twitch vod.
I'm already very flattered to have been involved, I hope everything came across well and I also hope DFM prove me wrong and give us a miracle group C upset!
Dagda's smile is just infectious. What a wholesome man.
Are we just gonna ignore that epic mustache?
I LOVED THE JLJ GUEST PLEASE MORE ON SUMMONING INSIGHT!
4 hour multi guest episode, takes me back to my teens, nostalgia is strong in this one xD
please do this again. It was a great episode and got me hyped for MSI
Def need this episode to convince me I need to watch some of those teams.
Thanks to every one of the guests and hosts for their time.
Can't believe these two beasts powered through a 4 hour show without losing steam.
Nearly 4 hrs of excellent content and I can hardly watch 10 minutes of a locodoco vod Great job Monte + Thorin + friends
Didn't expect this to be such a good episode. Nice to hear some different voices and perspectives
Watching the Unicorns of Love segment after today was enlightening.
I really love that whenever Thorin speaks, the sentence would either have "By the way..." or "Basically.."
Really enjoyed the Sheepy, Maestro and Nymaera segments.
Didn't help that Dagdas mic was low but I have to say as an English LPL fan I'm kind of disappointed with how he did, think he can improve clarity and sentence structure when speaking and it comes across in his casting as well, with repeating the same opening phrases a lot (still love you mate). Also Wolf went full COPIUM when talking about Khan being better for DWG than Nuguri, Khan is just not the player he used to be years ago, and no other tops compare to Nuguri right now, anyone who watched LPL playoffs can tell you that
4 Hours banger or what
looks like Pentanet missed the memo that they weren't supposed to shit all over UOL in that tie breaker. happy for them Biopanther and Pabu are amazing players. glad that we get to see more!
Hahahaha sorted comments by newest first cuz of this while listening thru this atm
This was an absolute banger, I genuinely loved every single guest.
best episode ever, i appreciate the effort so so much
I know Nothing about cblol, but the whole Maestro segment was awesome, great guest
Thank you for organising this.
LCK Summer talkshow with Monte waiting room
I'm pleasantly surprised how eloquent Nymaera is not having seen any content of him concerning league this guy should be a regular guest (sadly unless LJL has to be good for a couple of years to have that happen) but a man can dream
Voices of League from around the world, thanks for this!
Turkey?
@@finalfrontier001 hmm, yes missed that, still we got 2 minor regions and each for the 4 major ones lol counting monte and Thorin ;p
Content overload right before MSI is feeling really good rn
Sheepy's point about more calm analysis and less insane hype over everything: fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck yes. I hate the constant hype. It turns out that if you act like everything is insane hype, every bad play is the most awful of awful and every OK play is just insanity, it turns everything into a boring stream of yelling. If everything is sensational, nothing is sensational indeed.
If only LJL were as strong as Nymaera's cheekbones
They're a workplace hazard I tell you
I wanna clap for LJL as much as I want to clap Nymaera's cheeks
I’m a fucking degenerate weeb so i want LJL to do well...
WHAATTTTT I missed this TT ahhhh I'm sorry >__< I wish for the show to go great for all! Much love to the brothers! Alwyas!
Great insight from the guests going into MSI. Looking forward to how the minor regions will plan upset the major teams.
LCK SHOW!!!! YES!!! PLEASE!!!
PLEASE!!!
Pretty strong disagreement on the TOP lane in LPL finals. While Nuguri clearly dominated lane
Xiaohu played some teamfights beautifully on Gnar as well. Even in the games they loss he gave them a change to comeback with beautiful teamfighting engages, ults, and timing. The game consists of phases and Xiaohu's FULL gameplay was pretty strong in that series. I would say Xiaohu and LWX (played shet) carried that series for RNG. One bent but didn't break while the other one shattered into a million pieces.
Is this same wolf that used to cast SC2? Good to see him still around in Korean Esports that’s crazy man
Yes
I love watching the Sheepy section after knowing UoL didn't make it
Thats fucked up man lol
Khan played out of his mind during his last international tournament (discounting last year's fake MSI). He was arguably the best toplaner at worlds 2019 and at worst top 2. Yes, he had bad international tournaments, but his most recent one certainly was not that.
46:46 XD "start being a worse version of them, TODAY!"
3:35:40 What about Tabe, the ultimate backstabbing snitch?
Introduced as an upstanding character. Very humble, supportive and likeable. In time he might slip up here and there but it is played off as naivety or awkwardness. But in the end, when the time is right to deliver the most fatal blow, it's revealed it was all intentional to undermine and sabotage. He was a heel all along.
No need to say more than thank you. Don't ever stop please
YES THORIN. DOUBLE ELIMINATION!
and... It astounds me why no pros are playing Mao'kai. The champion is actually historically GREAT. ALL CC. The root will follow champions through their abilities, the ultimate (while not S6 old mao' ult
It is beyond me how Brazil can continue to see itself as a strong region.
Same way NA does I would guess
@@javijflow We're talking about overall. NA is clearly a top 5 region. Average at best.
top 5 region out of 4
@@aoh4905 indeed a top 5 region among the 4 major regions
Khan is super underrated. He was ranked 1 in ladder before going to Iceland. He's still mechanically strong.
The reason that he was underrated going into 2021 spring was that he was pretty damn average all throughout 2020 in the LPL. He was appropriately rated going into 2021 and people's opinion of him is still likely tainted by how he performed in 2020.
Mad caught the throw vs Rogue and they did it extremely well. Cloud9 struggled to beat a team without a jungler
Vietnam doesnt have visa issues. The government didnt allow the team to leave the country
I might be wrong but I think I read the problem wasn't leaving the country, I read that they weren't allowed to come back if they left. And that's a bigger deal.
Awwwww snap. Time to make some time and watch this. 👀
Great episode!
2:47:40 Thorin face: trying to figure out if the Caedrel praise is an intended pun towards him
I wonder why it is so hard to get anyone with experience in the PCS region for these.
Wolfs opinion on Nuguri vs Khan is insane to me cause the great thing about Nuguri is that he’s just the best overall. he plays great on weak side and if he gets resources he snowballs out of control and when he gets to team fights there is no top laner that plays even close to as good as him
the volume difference between monte and the guests are too big, i turn it up when dagda speaks and up when monte speasks
Great. More info about minor regions is great !!!!
1:08:43 I agree. MORE GAMES. Double elimination!
Gratz! loved the idea of the expert per region.
great episode
From Chinese social media source (This is good news for you NA fans)
C9 has been dumpstering RNG in scrims, something like 70% win rate against RNG, not sure how reliable this source is thou. RNG has been doing horrible in scrims is the news that is currently circulating in Chinese social media right now.
Well it definitely wasn't a perfect series for RNG, but they managed to show their dominance at game 5 over DK. That's what mattered.
how good of a guest was Sheepy? can you please get him back later?
2:26:55 that was great :D
Tbh proxywolf kind of convinced me that rng is gonna win more than dagda did
Finally some good ketamine content in the league of legends scene
Great work
I missed the mega episodes so much.
I'm the same as Monte, I can appreciate the ideas and concepts that some anime take but the execution of it is more often than not piss poor. Like wading through an endless cesspool to find nuggets of gold. Rather read manga that are more down to earth and not fixated on serial bandwagons to appease the anime crowd. That's the thing, much anime has a superficial and braindead way to present a narrative for narrow-minded kids.
Gotta say maestro has a magnificent fucking mustache
Top Shelf Megasode, Keep it up
On the drama team what are the player names ?
Nymaera is really well spoken !
Regarding Astralis and Denmark Thorin: it's actually much worse, but you risk having to give some props to Astralis, which might be a little bit out of your element ;)
Like I noted in the comment thread to the most recent Four Horsemen episode, I work as a political advisor in Danish parliament. In 2019 member of parliament Naser Khader pushed through a grant of 1 million dollars in taxpayer money to Danish e-sport and much of the money was ear-marked to... *drum roll*..: RFRSH, who still owned Astralis at the time.
Now I'll give you a penny if you can tell me which e-sports team Naser Khader's son might be a huge fan of? ;)
The whole thing became a controversy, of course, and that's where the props come in: Astralis (or rather, RFRSH) ended up declining the grant and demanded the money be more broadly assigned to Danish elite e-sports as a whole. Though of course, you might argue they did this under pressure.
You can contact me on caspergronemann@gmail.com or on Twitter @SandGronemann if you want details.
I said it, and I standing by it. What of it?!
can u equalize the guest volume
Ls has mentioned it in the past, he just doesn’t say it anymore ( or it’s minor )
How are random meat heads talking about body building better at leveling the mics. Than people who have done this for 7+ years XD
Dagda turn up your volume bro
Damn you thooorin, now i cant unhear "orangey"
Legend of the Galactic Heroes is such a masterpiece. I knew all along Thorin would have amazing taste in anime. Too bad most anime creators nowadays are blinded by greed and release titles that only appeal to mainstream audiences with iq of two digits.
This past decade has still had some amazing anime like Steins Gate, Hunter x Hunter, Attack on Titan, Re Zero, and Dr. Stone.
Thorin is so fucking funny man
Wish they'd use TI's format.
Riot should give smaller regions 2 or 3 spots each at Worlds, so they could totally go ham and destroy each other like battle royale :)😊😉👍
Nymaera is really well spoken
word ill comment for the algorithm
Can someone explain the joke around 8:40-9:00?
Making fun of his Irish accent.
I fucking rofled during opera/dating analogy at around 1:06:30
Nymaera was amazing
A little sad Bengi wasnt brought up in misunderstood players, dude got to play on turbo stacked lineups his entire career and especially when he played that one nidalee game in (I want to say 2016?) and won. Everyone was gassing up him as this insane player who played a champ he had never played before and hard carried in a clutch moment against rox when in reality guy got mega carried by his team and had been complete ass the entire year which is why BLANK of all fuckin people were starting over him.
The difference is Bengi had success in 2013 and 2015. Being bad in a different iteration of the meta and then still being in form when the meta shifted towards his comfort zone to smurf again is actually crazy. Compare that to other players who had a big peak but then became hot garbage like broxah or mlxd.
the way this guy says RNG as orenji has always been bugging me, still love him tho
As an Irishman, that's just how we pronounce our Rs haha, I appreciate his authentic Irish accent Personally but I can understand your irritation
1:00:01 TL vs G2 last msi final
Nice that these guys analyze a children's game and make it complex as it should be
Get Gamer Supps and use the code "THORIN" to be a lean mean machine.
I always love the show and the conversation but the madlions take its pretty bad, mad have been getting alot of their wins from behind
Watching this now knowing DFM crushed C9 and almost got DK omegalul xd
Re update this a tad lol
@@ThePolarpop nah.. even more relevant than now xd
Watching this again realizing the most representive region beside Korea and EU is OCE omegalulu xd
not monte calling them Ketamine Corp
That wolf point that khan makes dwg better is just stupid. Anyone with eyeballs or a brain can see otherwise
Easylove is a cheap escort name. He escorts enemies to their Nexus for only 50 gold
Nymaera is too handsome
mang0 in pools :^)
Is It just me or does Sheepy look a ton like Hashinshin?
Can't wait for some bo1s haha
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