Yes but they have to claim so much because so many others lie about power figures ...Good kit though only really have that or the malossi to choose from 👍
@@shinyred The malossi is also great! Kinda sad that the malossi makes more power with stock components xD Well, one positive thing about the pro street is that you can modify the cylinder a lot because there's so much material :D What do you think, which one is better? Malossi or PM? I'm not sure but I gotta make a decision because I'll probably get a Piaggio/Gilera 125ccm Scooter in about 2 months and I want to build a second engine for it with 172ccm :D
Hey Shiny, could you please tell me where I can get the little plastic cover from, which is directly on top of the variator? Wanted to remove the huge ugly plastic which covers the whole gearbox/variator...but there's a hole and I did not find a cover to suit... Thanks a lot (If you understood what I mean :D)
that engine turned out really mint. what cylinder do you like better, the malossi 172, or pm tuning 172. also how come no one ever used the polini 180 cylinder.
wsmaga thanks ;) pm barrel beats the malossi hands down ,the polini is exactly the same as the standard 180 barrel port timing wise ...thats why nobody uses them
Dear shiny red, awesome build, keep up the good work. Anyways i need some help getting my runner built, i am currently running a 70 runner but looking into a 172/180, but i've already heard that the stock cilinders dont really put alot of power down. What would you Guys suggest for a cilinder. I want to make decent power but dont want to be repairing my ped every weekend. I can use some advice, not only about the cilinder if you wouldnt mind :)
bliephoofd die malossi is juist niks.. gewoon zelfde als origineel scheelt niks.. 2/2 is snelste qua malossi en 1/2 die pm pro street die hij zegt is idd goed maar dan zou ik ook andere krukas nemen
shiny red bro help me where do i buy the cheapest part ? Need now? Front screen high glass and maby somthing good new weights rem spring. Do you have instagram so i can send dm to you.
@@shinyred thanks, my cuestión Is, what Is the number of part? Sorry, no speak inglis good ☹️ I need the number of part of the belt of transmisión please
heyy shinni red you are very strong and good very very good work you job work are amazing.i want a motor very hard speed. you come whit me in italy for work up my rubber 180 ..?
because that's what they make ,I don't make the numbers up .theres enough videos on my channel to compare plenty of engines to one another over years ,the dyno is one of the best on the market ,I cant speak for other wild figures banding around all you can compare is on the same dyno not too different dynos all I can do is bring you what comes through the shop recorded on video with dyno print outs and I cant see many others doing the same and as I mentioned theres consistent line to look back through ..hoping to bring a bit of reality its not just a numbers game ;)
yea sry for my short sentence, sounded a bit mean. did not meant that wrong: just seen one of your " fully built " runner .. with PM setup, wild paintjob and whatever and they all produce like 26hp or something. here in germany, for example me and 2 mates, we all have like 30hp on the wheel with 183ccm on p4 amerschläger dyno. with 199ccm ( 68mm and 57mm crankshaft) around 40hp. love your videos, but i miss those powerful engines a bit .
and another question : youre interested in handmade racing exhauts for 172-176-183-199cc engines? its way better than malossi, mhr and way more peak power than the pm exhaust. going to a dyno to setup and test the exhaust soon, gonna give you some diagrams soon.
alex1337bm yes sure let me know how they perform ;) back to the original question ..hp is a different reading to bhp google will explain better than i can lol thanks for commenting i appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment . you could always come over and try one to compare ;)
great job mate, i should get couple of those srt lightened flywheels :D
Great videos you have. I have just bought a italjet dragster. I have never had a auto scooter. I'll be watching a lot more of your videos 👍👍
Thanks ☺
well done shiny
Hopefully my so 180 will be coming up for the shiny red treatment looking forward to dealing with experts for a change.
Simon from Cornwall
Look forward to it👍🏻
Nice tunes😎
Shiny Red - Best jet setup for me 172 pm tuning running a 25mm delly and pm 59
Great Rebuild!
But I think the pro street is kind of a scam, it says online, that it is supposed to make 25hp
Yes but they have to claim so much because so many others lie about power figures ...Good kit though only really have that or the malossi to choose from 👍
@@shinyred The malossi is also great!
Kinda sad that the malossi makes more power with stock components xD
Well, one positive thing about the pro street is that you can modify the cylinder a lot because there's so much material :D
What do you think, which one is better? Malossi or PM? I'm not sure but I gotta make a decision because I'll probably get a Piaggio/Gilera 125ccm Scooter in about 2 months and I want to build a second engine for it with 172ccm :D
@@Germknoedel pm pro Street is a lot more powerful out the box than the malossi and you can do so much more to the pm 😀
Hey Shiny, could you please tell me where I can get the little plastic cover from, which is directly on top of the variator?
Wanted to remove the huge ugly plastic which covers the whole gearbox/variator...but there's a hole and I did not find a cover to suit...
Thanks a lot (If you understood what I mean :D)
I have one email me on shinyredtuing@gmail.com
Hey, nice Build :)
Question....What Kind of Carburetor slider do you use in the PHBL25? The Standard 30 or 40?
It would depend on set up but 40 is the norm :)
@@shinyred ah okay thanks a lot Buddy, greetings from Germany :)
that engine turned out really mint. what cylinder do you like better, the malossi 172, or pm tuning 172. also how come no one ever used the polini 180 cylinder.
wsmaga thanks ;)
pm barrel beats the malossi hands down ,the polini is exactly the same as the standard 180 barrel port timing wise ...thats why nobody uses them
shiny red thanks for the answers. you guys are awesome.
wsmaga
thanks ;) inbox me your address and i will send you some shiny red goodies ;)
That sounds awesome :D !
How can I get parts
Dear shiny red, awesome build, keep up the good work.
Anyways i need some help getting my runner built, i am currently running a 70 runner but looking into a 172/180, but i've already heard that the stock cilinders dont really put alot of power down. What would you
Guys suggest for a cilinder. I want to make decent power but dont want to be repairing my ped every weekend. I can use some advice, not only about the cilinder if you wouldnt mind :)
bliephoofd
hi thanks for the comments ,i would go for the pm pro street gives the best power and if looked after is reliable ;)
shiny red, will do, thank you for the quick response and the good advice, looking forward to more video's :)
bliephoofd die malossi is juist niks.. gewoon zelfde als origineel scheelt niks.. 2/2 is snelste qua malossi en 1/2 die pm pro street die hij zegt is idd goed maar dan zou ik ook andere krukas nemen
If i were to bring my gilera with malossi , how much would it cost to change to pro street?
goood work my friend keep up the good work👍 holla if you can help me with finding cheep 180cc and shipp to sweden
thanks Pacino ,but cheap ones are hard to find now even for me
shiny red bro help me where do i buy the cheapest part ? Need now? Front screen high glass and maby somthing good new weights rem spring. Do you have instagram so i can send dm to you.
Water cooled?
Yes 👍🏻
j'avais une cagiva super city 125 avec 34 ch din, là avec un 172, on a 18 ch din , pas normal
How did you clean the carter?
they were bead blasted ;)
which size mainjet and pilot jet can i use for the dellorto 25mm?
Ryan Tirto what pipe are you using
shiny red thanks for the reply!, i am using the stock 180cc pipe
Ryan Tirto
102/104 main jet
Aq 264 atomiser
45 idle
60 choke jet
Clip on the top of the needle
Air screw 2 turns out :)
@@shinyred what needle did you use? D22?
Please information of the belt of the clutch? For buy? Thank you
Standard is plenty good enough for big bhp👌
Malossi belt is best 👍🏻
@@shinyred thanks, my cuestión Is, what Is the number of part? Sorry, no speak inglis good ☹️
I need the number of part of the belt of transmisión please
@@dieandlife88 www.sip-scootershop.com/en/products/belt+malossi+xk+belt+for_m6117009
how much?
Can anyone explain what these numbers 172,173,183 mean? I thought there were only 50,125 and 180 ccm runners?
+MirGil
Malossi 172 kit or pm pro street 172 with a 55 mm long stroke crank makes the cc 183
Or with a 54mm stroke crank its a 179 cc 😊
do you can make me a good motor for my runner 180 2t. of 2000 yar
yes sure
heyy shinni red you are very strong and good very very good work you job work are amazing.i want a motor very hard speed. you come whit me in italy for work up my rubber 180 ..?
can i buy this runner?
for sale ?
can you..?
i do have Gilera Runner sp 50cc i can make it to 80cc? with long use i mean not going to broken so fast with this upgrad ? lol
You can upgrade it to 70cc and they are usualy very good and how long it lasts, depends on how many rpm's it makes and the quality of the cilinder
Top the automatic engine
if i put 172 kit or a polini 180kit on a Runner 125 2stroke engine...do i have to port my cases?
Honda CR125 Motard
No you don't have to flow the cases
shiny red Or rly....thats great
thanky you for the fast reply
You guys are just awesome
shiny red and which cylinder kit do you reccomend? i just want it really reliable and power of 180 runner is enough
Honda CR125 Motard pm Pro street one would be the best all round :)
shiny red ok, and ive seen both malossi and pm for sale...but i cant find 180 polini, do you know where i could get it
ehhhh yyy shinny of much for building a super runner 180 2 stroke
why is most hp i see on your dyno runs like 26-28hp?? =(
because that's what they make ,I don't make the numbers up .theres enough videos on my channel to compare plenty of engines to one another over years ,the dyno is one of the best on the market ,I cant speak for other wild figures banding around all you can compare is on the same dyno not too different dynos all I can do is bring you what comes through the shop recorded on video with dyno print outs and I cant see many others doing the same and as I mentioned theres consistent line to look back through ..hoping to bring a bit of reality its not just a numbers game ;)
yea sry for my short sentence, sounded a bit mean. did not meant that wrong: just seen one of your " fully built " runner .. with PM setup, wild paintjob and whatever and they all produce like 26hp or something. here in germany, for example me and 2 mates, we all have like 30hp on the wheel with 183ccm on p4 amerschläger dyno. with 199ccm ( 68mm and 57mm crankshaft) around 40hp. love your videos, but i miss those powerful engines a bit .
and another question : youre interested in handmade racing exhauts for 172-176-183-199cc engines? its way better than malossi, mhr and way more peak power than the pm exhaust. going to a dyno to setup and test the exhaust soon, gonna give you some diagrams soon.
alex1337bm
yes sure let me know how they perform ;)
back to the original question ..hp is a different reading to bhp google will explain better than i can lol
thanks for commenting i appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment .
you could always come over and try one to compare ;)
26 - 28 hp is the 180cc version not 172cc and runner 172cc (is 125cc withe modification become 172cc
pm Tuning il cilindro. ..!why malossi
Pm is better :)
pm is more god of malossi. .?
Yes lots better