As a professor of French, I truly thank Abigail for this great summary of the play and its philosophical underpinnings. I will show this to my students semester and it will save me quite a bit of class time to dedicate to more of a textual analysis. Also, everyone who is making fun of her French needs to get ALLLLL the way off of her back. Sure, there is an accent, but for a person from the anglophone world, her French is exquisite. Part of the reason that it is hard to learn French is that people who speak it are too protective and cruel. Stop it! More in French!
I always wondered why Lucky has that name, when he should be the most miserable of the characters, and you really came with a great answer to that one!
Interesting titbit; the name 'Godot' is thought to be a franco-literation of the Irish language term 'go deo' which is pronounced almost exactly the same. This is a conceit on the part of Beckett because 'go deo' means 'FOREVER' *ominous music*
Godot is whatever or who ever it is that you wait for. Ultimately, we wait for the body to wear out so we can die. Until that happens, The only thing you can do is fill up the time with distractions. The play is very popular in Prisons.
For liberals/democrats, we have the Mueller investigation, which gives them a reason to live by providing a false sense of hope. Upon conclusion, however, they are overcome with a renewed sense of despair.
@@aDarkNightofTheSoul Hey man I'd suggest you relax, for I wouldn't get over-involved with that kind of thing. It seems unhealthy. Being that enveloped in the Anti-Trump movement might cause some mental distress. Trump's impeachment will happen or it won't, and you must accept the fact of both and move on. On the other hand, I believe that it is based on perspective. It seems too cynical for me to accept that we all live to die and that's it, due to the fact that I can see it in a different light other than distractions or denial. My philosophy is as follows; you live your life for the benefit and well-being of others and the improvement of society, while gathering as much wisdom and knowledge as possible. For one day, it may be passed onto another generation to build upon, coming closer to the truth. We all know Socrates. Question everything!
@@sneakykilla12 Getting philosophical? What about Karma and past lives? Would'nt that affect your current life, behavior especially? Lol. Couldn't help it. I love Beckett, Camus, Kafka.... the doom and bleakness, there's a beauty in that and when you add the rhythm of Beckett's works , that's beautifully genius! But I don't believe the universe is pointless. I think it feels that way sometimes and it seems impossible otherwise, but nature and her patterns & equations, science and outlandish predictions based on mathematics turning out to be real, the impossibility thatis the human body... that can't be pointless. What's that mean for life? Idk but I know we are not in a simulation so please do dont @ me w that bullshit or flat Earth propaganda. Respect ma vibe. Lol 😎✌
Great video. So nice to create something that many years later people can still find helpful, so I don’t know at what time of your artistic adventure you are but I hope you are proud of the fact that people can still find interesting after many years from the creation of the video!
I've been doing research for days for a paper on this play and seriously nothing has been more of a help than this video omg thank you so much for this insightful, intelligent discussion.
My good friend and I performed a section of waiting for Godot for our final Higher performance and it was amazing! It was the best thing I've ever done, we got full marks, and while reading about the play I fell down a Wikipedia rabbit hole into all this absurd philosophy. It's really cool to see you talking about all these things and your interpretation is really fascinating, thank you.
The way you speak, your pronounciation, the accent everything. Oh My God..!!! You as a speaker is simply awesome. Can't get over your style of speech. Second thing, you literally just made, waiting for godot my favourite from "the least interested category". Thanks a lot.
Very insightful video! I studied Beckett's play this semester in English, but never thought knew about the historical context and how it connects so well with Camus's philosophy. Good job!
Hi Olly I saw Waiting for Godot in 2013 performed by the Sydney Theatre Company with Hugo Weaving and Richard Roxburgh as Vladimir & Estragon. I went into the play not aware of the Absurdist interpretation and came out with what seemed like an entirely different experience than the rest of the audience. The most striking scene for me was Lucky’s speaking scene. While everyone around me was laughing I was more horrified than I’d ever been in a theatre at the shear degradation of the human spirit I was witnessing. I saw a once fulfilled, well spoken individual reduced to a mere puppet, barking on command. I was struck by the similarities between Lucky and the Jewish folktale of the Golem. In the tale a creature is bought to life to serve the will of man until man grows scared of his creation and destroys it. A golems only form of protest is to perform a task ad absurdum when instructions aren’t specified clearly (e.g dig a well a mile deep, turn an entire forest into table legs, etc.) In some versions of the myth the golem is inscribed with the word emet (meaning truth) to bring it to life and has the character aleph removed leaving met (meaning death) to destroy it. I saw clear parallels between this and Lucky’s hat which when placed on his head allows him to “think” for the other characters entertainment and when this scares the characters they wrench the hat off his head mid-sentence “killing” him.
Interesting analysis. I have often wondered if all the characters shouldn't be wearing the striped clothing of concentration camp victims/survivors/detainees. I can't help but think that absurdist philosophy is turned into nihilism in the plays of Beckett. The date of the creation of this work means that the horror stories of the camps (& those from Stalinist Russia)--in addition to the degradations suffered by the French during the Occupation--must have informed Beckett's creation. To my eyes, these characters are man stripped bare. All the world--including its philosophers and artists--must have suffered a severe self-doubt after hearing and comprehending the full horrors of WWII.
Thank for a most wonderful lecture! Im an director from Sweden. Worked with Becketts plays for long time. Never came across any anyone who could nail it like you. Most helpful.
If anyone is in the acceptance state it is Vladimir. In act II he bit by bit starts realising that he is stuck in this repeating loop. And he doesnt go away, he doesn't try to follow the boy or anything. He just... keeps going... I guess.
Lot of thanks! I've enjoyed your enthusiastic comparison between myth of Sisyphus and waiting for Godot. Love love. It helped a lot for making my notes on it.
He doesn't need to list all "career choices" because in this Philosophy life is absurd and nothing ever can feel the void. Humans try all sorts of diversions to not look into the void directly but its still there and our compulsion in doing stuff and getting somewhere every day of our lives is the way we do it. Accepting this reality, this Absurd, is Camus' way of dealing with the Absurd. I think that Accepting or Not Accepting the absurd is equally pointless.
And his pronunciation is horrible... Why can't any f*ckin' Englishman or American pronounce a trilled or an uvular R?? This really pisses me off more than it should.
It's because native English speakers do not have that sound in their own language, and the ability to produce that sound is lost in early childhood with the development of English speech. I suggest you look into a basic linguistics class to cure you of irritation with speakers of other languages who study for years to speak French but are unable to speak like a native, because they ARE NOT NATIVE FRENCH SPEAKERS.
The whole time I studied this in high school, I was worried I wasn’t “getting it”. Glad to see that my crazed ramblings were based in actual philosophy. If only I found this video before my final exam.
Spot on, I think large elements of what you describe is exactly what Beckett was attempting to portray. Also you have a knack for explanation that exceeds many more famous critics.
So this video is rather old at this point but AUGH I had forgotten about Camus since I read him in college, and I had to pause the video about halfway through and go on a rant to myself alone in my apartment. I personally found Camus insufferable because he fails (in my view) to describe how accepting the absurd is actually a different way of life than those six methods you listed, which in practice means he completely fails to escape denial/distraction/creation/politics/etc, let alone explaining how anyone else could. Because, okay, you accept the absurd, but now what do you do with your life? Aren't you basically going to continue to choose a mixture of those six options regardless? I never really understood what acceptance of the absurd looks like in practice and how it's different from another way of life. Like, in the context of your interpretation of Waiting for Godot, should Vladimir and Estragon becomes slaves to Pozzo? Would that be the best way for them to embrace the absurd? Because they are clearly not leading fulfilling lives as it is, and if the play has any idea that resonates most clearly with an audience that seems to be the main one - that its characters are miserable due to their own inability to create or find meaning. I studied theater and work in theater, and the most interesting insight I know of about Waiting for Godot was this: After a semester of reading a whole variety of plays, we were tasked with writing our own in small groups. One group visited the student center and simply transcribed the interactions they heard. The question was, what style of "realist" playwright would the conversation they recorded most resemble? Surprisingly, it wasn't any realist playwright, but rather Beckett's absurdism, that the transcribed dialogue most resembled. It seems to me like this school of thought comes to the conclusion that deciding to be happy despite a miserable life is the only solution, but is unable to provide any actual means of which to find that source of happiness through willpower. Strikes me kind of like a depressed person saying "there's no meaning to anything so I must choose to be happy" and attempting to force themselves to cheer up. But speaking as someone who struggles with depression, well, that simply doesn't work. You cannot just choose to be happy when you're not, or we wouldn't have a problem in the first place.
My latest understanding is that it's not about what you do but the attitude with which you do it. If you practise a religion because you genuinely believe it to provide meaning you are denying the absurdity of the universe, but if you accept that absurdity and choose to continue practising anyway you are doing so not because it provides meaning but for other reasons (perhaps you enjoy the community aspects or find the rituals to be relaxing). That's not to say that after discovering the absurd you must simply return to what you were doing before but with a new attitude. Sisyphus only had a mountain and a rock with which to fill his existence whereas most of us have significantly more than that (depending on our various privileges).
I'm not a big philosophy person myself but I would say that acceptance and the other 6 are not mutually exclusive - simply accepting is enough in an absurd world, the rest is whatever you make of it.
I think Depression is an entirely different ball game: it's a biological set point of happiness inflicted on someone, and it's very low. I got the impression from Camus that by studying philosophy and by wrangling with our own thoughts regarding how we should live, we all come to one place. We recognize that choosing to be optimistic and happy is a fine way of life, as is choosing to be pessimistic and miserable. Being rich and successful is fine, and being poor out of principle or inaction is fine. When we recognize that happiness is not inherently better than sadness, and that sadness is not inherently better than happiness, we find some wiggle room, some opportunity to choose how we'd like to be. That isn't to say that it's like a light switch. It's simply a feeling that one may, through their actions, change the way they think. The feeling that one can choose comes from the empowerment of getting better with a mental health issue. I have OCD, and after struggling a lot for a few years, I have gotten better, which is to say that I worry less. But I have a baffling new perspective: I worry less, but I also don't think I'm happier. And so, my conclusion is that both mental health and mental illness are fine ways to live, each with an infinite list of benefits and drawbacks. But I believe this is something that the mentally ill need to learn themselves. From this point, now that I've reduced anxiety, I've simply shifted to the bigger questions of how will I go on living? And I believe this is where Camus was at in his writing. Not saying that one should choose to be happy in the face of absurdity, but that by recognizing how little capable we are of doing objective good or bad in this world, we may find an empowerment we didn't always know existed. I know your comment is 3 years old, but I'm glad I could type lol
I am convinced myself that, at the end of the day, accomplishing goals seem to be the most satisfying thing to me. WHAT I'VE STRUGGLED WITH was making reasonable goals along the way to an ultimate successful goal (I just taught myself something here as I type by the way). In the fog of "waiting to accomplish a goal", that's where those other 6 responses could certain come in and interrupt the wavelength towards those goals. That's why I'm convinced that focus, tuning-out negative folks, and making consistent self-proclamations about the success you desire MAY help towards eliminating distractions from the outside, as well as those self-destructive thoughts on the inside. The HOF Great Michael Irvin said that along the way to grinding along the road to the endzone for a touchdown, you must be able to complete those first-downs, and "CELEBRATE those small moments". Damn, what I just realized is that you even have to have a defined meaning of what a small first-down looks like in your own life, AND THEN a defined plan to reach that small first-down goal. All this en-route to achieving your ultimate goal (which gives you meaning in living). Hence, let me get started.....
when you were speaking in French I was reading the french text and translating it in my head into english LOL. I did a paper on this play, because I read it, then I started studying philosophy, came back to the play to do the paper and realised there were all these philosophy jokes in it and there are also religious jokes too. I didn't get introduced to philosophy of the absurd sadly, so I didn't see the connection. Camus is definately someone I should read up on. Really clear summing up of the play. Thanks
The production at Spoleto 2017 is absolutely first-class. I have served as a house manager for 34 years for the festival, and this production is in my top three plays during that time.
Excellent!!! Superb!!! None else has ever explained or can explain so easily, correctly, lucidly The Theatre of the ABSURD and the Philosophy concerned......................look forward to hearing more analytical discussions from you...........
I think that the optimal response to the Absurd is not merely acceptance, but rather the combination of acceptance and denial. Life is a pointless task in the end, this is true, and should be accepted as reality. However, this acceptance does not actually assist one in pursuing the task of life. Towards that end, denial is quite clearly the most beneficial solution - How can one get anything done in life, when it is seen only as a burden? Even if one imagines Sisyphus happy, that does not necessarily mean that they too can be happy when confronted with the Absurd. It is a monumental act of willpower which is at once impressive, being reminiscent of the qualities attributed to Nietsche's Overman, and yet also daft and inefficient. It is far easier to simultaneously hold two contradicting truths than it is to gladly hold true the certainty of one's own despair. Accept the Absurd nature of life, but also adamantly deny it, and turn oneself towards whatever meaning helps one best deal with life's lack of meaning.
That is Camus' whole argument. The absurd is a product of the conflict between human desire for meaning and a meaningless universe. If you accept that the universe is meaningless and completely deny a search for meaning, the absurd falls apart. If you convince yourself that life has a meaning, the absurd falls apart. The absurd cannot exist without both of them, so both must be accepted (if you want to live authentically).
A very entertaining lively And truthful explanation, with the parallel comparison Camus, of Godot...totally agree, an artistical manner of expression plus the bonds we make with other fellow humans gives meaningfulness in this whole absurdity that we are nonetheless "lucky" to Live....living Life well seasoned with humour, taking ones work but not ourselves seriously is what can make us most happy...That's indeed what Beckett but also Prévert or Quéneau for example showed us too.....thanks again fellow resilient philosophizing artist
It's an invisible hand so it knows the position it must be in to enable Godart to arrive. Its better that way. At least then you don't know where it's been
I like how your education to be an actor has influenced your videos so much. It is nice to see you trying new things and getting more creative with your online lectures. The french talking part was, for me personally, a bit too much, but that is just me. However, I must say I do miss the oldfashioned introduction to a philosophical idea, like you used to make them. Those videos were a major reason for choosing philosophy for my current education.
Insightful analysis of the play. Crystalline exposition of the philosophy. Positioning Lucky as icon of Absurdism with firm foundation. A must for every Professor of Literature. Simply delightful.
Thanks for this video. This play came up in one of my literature classes in college, but it wasn't handled by the lecturer as well as it was by you. I never knew that this was something that is connected to concepts that I am deeply interested in and if I hadn't seen your video, waiting for godot would be staying in that "boring and unnecessary information" shelf in my mind. Instead now, I want to go watch it . Thank you.
I'd like to thank you for helping me understand this play. I watched your video just before watching the play (probably a mistake if I wanted to form my own opinions, but at least I wasn't hopelessly confused) and I don't think I would have understood anything without.
This is a very good exploration of the philosophy of the play. I've watched it a number of times on film, and twice at the theatre (the first with Max Wall), and each time it reveals itself more fully. And I think you have it spot on.
I really loved this video. In our last year of secondary school, we read the play by having some classmates 'perform' it without ever having read it themselves, just reading the script out loud and attempting some form of acting. It made it both hilarious and maybe even more absurd, and I still think of the particular classmates that played a particular character when reading it.
Probably the best explanation on here of this enigmatic work. I like the philosophy angle and Becketts background, which explains quite a lot. The Boulder and "Forever" is what most WFG critics miss that Godot isnt French (nor is it pronounced Gudd-o like those bloody Americans do (why do they always have to pronounce things differently and think they are right?) but an Irish word, Gud'o (pronounced Goddo) which means, Forever. I.e. they will wait forever because Godot aint coming and never was.
Great deconstruction?! I also think Beckett clues us in a bit by how he let's us know that the actions of the play have been played before and Gogo and Didi and they know it. All the characters are content not to let on. You get the sense it will repeat again ..and again... Brilliant.
I learned about Nihilism way back in HS, c 1986... I have more or less embraced it since... In the intervening years, I have often said... There is no meaning, no purpose, no grand plan... Nothing matters... In 1000 years no one will remember you or anything you did or stood for... But... You're here now... Might as well make the best of it... Is this acceptance..?
This is a Wonderful Video! Thank you for taking the time to make it! I have two questions for you though: 1) IF history had played out differently, would Camus' choice of response to the absurd have changed? 2) What role does choice have in responses to the absurd? You say that Lucky, in "Waiting for Godot" is an ideal candidate for Camus' version of Acceptance by willingly continuing to live on in spite of absurdity. But in being a slave, what choice does he have?
I think his choice is the same as that expressed by Viktor Frankl in " Man's Search for Meaning,"in describing his concentration experience. He said the Nazis could take everything from him except his attitude, that is he could choose resentment or acceptance, and so on. The Nazis had no control over his spirit.
Groundhog Day doesn't end in acceptance though. Sure, he ends up "living life anyway", but just before the ending when he's lying with his coworker, he still desires strongly, albeit futilely, that he could stay with her forever. Acceptance would be accepting that he'd have to go through the motions of courting and losing her over and over again for all eternity.
Nice video, it helps to know the influences that helped to create this play, i dont think its meant to be a philosophical piece, its so open to interpretation that it could be many things. But I see your point about Lucky, he is the most intelligent character, but he’s not accepted that life is pointless as he clearly struggles with accepting his position in life, hence the violence, you could also interpret this as being the intelligent people who were conscripted into the army to fight, enslavement to the frontline to die a meaningless death at the orders of a man of high self confidence/worth but utter incompetence. Good video though so thanks.
but Lucky can't be the absurdist hero. accepting the absurd does not mean we lose our soul to the universe and act as subjects. i thought the point was to rebel and revolt. i thought it was to live despite the lack of meaning. to experience art and do things despite them providing no meaning to us. does acceptance mean slavery? submission? i don't understand
Dear Olly (and others reading this), I am not sure if you are familiar with the band La Dispute (a USAnian melodic hardcore band), but they have made a series of spoken word recordings and songs in some of which they reproduce texts of famous authors. Their recording called 'Six' touches on the myth of Sisyphus in a beautiful way which I think you might find worth having a listen to. Their other albums are of a great introspective, philosophical and social commentary level too.
Smart kid, some very insightful concepts and contexts that will deffo help me in my journey towards examinations. Oi get a King Lear philosophical analysis in there!
Just three extra points. Well, two and a half. The half is in agreement that the piece is very much about theatre. These two men only see each other two hours a day ("Where did you sleep last night?) as sunset approaches. That's when we perform plays. Wicked. Small ploint one: Lucky's speech makes total sense - it is a ruin, and ruins make sense - as ruins - and Pozzo and Lucky are linear, not cyclic (they go around, yes, but with big changes). Small point two: we seem to believe that Didi and Gogo are both waiting for Godot. When I played Estragon it became clear that Didi is waiting for Godot; Gogo is waiting for Didi. Because he loves him. Voluntarily (as per Camus)
Perhaps because Camus kind of bundled or dismissed them equally? It has been a long time since I read the Myth of Sisyphus, but I recall Camus was pretty critical of Kierkegaard in it who I guess kind of had a Christian response to absurdity.
Great explanation.. Only watching the play, (and never having read it) in my late 40's... I was wondering what all the fuss was about.... so I thought ... hey, give it a go. I'd kind of gotten the gist to an extent that meant I was thinking about what was going on and how things were interacting and loved it, and I'd have to say that your appraisal clarified some points I was, to say the least, a little fuzzy or undecided on... there are as I understand many interpretations of the work, but.... I'd say I would be happy to count this as a pretty damn good one..... plus you qualified your credibility as an actor, by mentioning in the patreon plea "for rent and food' or words to those effects :) Well done and thank you for helping a rapidly ageing old fart (I'm usually a life-sized Victor Meldrew!!) to become more excited and enthusiastic about such work.
I haven't read the play (yet), so I can't really agree or disagree with you, but it's quite cool to see a philosophical interpetation of a play anyway :) The idea of the time back then, that philosophers, artists (and resistance fighters) get fused in one person, has become an idea of history, I think. Nowadays, philosophers usually don't speak of themselves as artists. Philosophy has beome a discipline in academia, with lots and lots of technical terms, and some philosophers just write horribly. Maybe we could be inspired by this idea of philosophers being artists, at least a little bit. Philosophy has lost its artistic aspect in analytic philosophy.
i think you might have just helped me conclude a decade long existential crisis.. nice to know theres a artistic movement and philosophy dedicated to being fully aware of the pointlessness of the world weve been born into and making your own mocking point of it anyways in order to have one's own purpose.. it sure makes the cruel injustices easier to twist into dark comedies.
The universe exists, we exist...that is the meaning. Existence = Consciousness. Consciousness means to be aware. To be aware means to observe, to think and to act. From this point on man creates on all levels: philosophy, psychology, biology, physics, architecture, ideology, religion, wars and destruction and so on ...endlessly! It means reality always changes, societies change, scientific knowledge changes. Thus there is no end to creation...thus never a dull moment!
I'm reminded of Black Narcissus : when Sister Clodagh says ,"There are only two ways of living in this place ; either ignore it like Mr Dean or give yourself up to it like the Holy Man". (I've paraphrased). I notice Know-it-all doesn't include "Giving yourself up to it" in his list of options for dealing with the Absurd. I think Sister Clodagh had the more profound insight.
“Not everyone has a God but who does not have a Godot?” I once read this sentence in an article in the New Yorker.
Brilliant
I get it. Holding back the tears but I get it.
true
God? ohhh. Veruh nice
reminds me of Lacan / Dostoevsky 's "If there is a God, then anything is permitted."
As a professor of French, I truly thank Abigail for this great summary of the play and its philosophical underpinnings. I will show this to my students semester and it will save me quite a bit of class time to dedicate to more of a textual analysis.
Also, everyone who is making fun of her French needs to get ALLLLL the way off of her back. Sure, there is an accent, but for a person from the anglophone world, her French is exquisite. Part of the reason that it is hard to learn French is that people who speak it are too protective and cruel. Stop it! More in French!
Yes! My French is minimal, & she speaks slowly so I understand it without the subtitles, which I like very, very much!
Who is abigail?
Omg your video on The Struggler inspired me to read this book!!
4 months later and I'm wondering the same thing 🤣@@cara-seyun
@@LyricalFauxpas and @cara-seyun the lovely person in the video is transgender. They now go by Abigail.
I always wondered why Lucky has that name, when he should be the most miserable of the characters, and you really came with a great answer to that one!
@@xxy9420 Lucky being the irony of existence
Sounds like the message
Me: watches old Philosophy Tube vids to put off writing an essay on Waiting for Godot for English class
This Video: Exists
Now that's quite absurd (with a lowercase 'a')
no
brain blown
My exact same situation
Interesting titbit; the name 'Godot' is thought to be a franco-literation of the Irish language term 'go deo' which is pronounced almost exactly the same. This is a conceit on the part of Beckett because 'go deo' means 'FOREVER' *ominous music*
It's not pronounced the same... it's god-o v. gud-yo (i.e. go deo)
John F I’d even go as far as to say it’s ‘gu-djo’ but I’m from Kerry. All the same I’m buying into this theory big time.
'No symbols where none intended.' Samuel Beckett.
Didn't SB say that if Godot was god, he'd have said so? Godot was a famous cyclist of the day in velodromes, circular tracks.
@@DPC2424 Exactly - we should take him at his word!
Godot is whatever or who ever it is that you wait for. Ultimately, we wait for the body to wear out so we can die. Until that happens, The only thing you can do is fill up the time with distractions. The play is very popular in Prisons.
There is a better way
For liberals/democrats, we have the Mueller investigation, which gives them a reason to live by providing a false sense of hope. Upon conclusion, however, they are overcome with a renewed sense of despair.
@@aDarkNightofTheSoul Hey man I'd suggest you relax, for I wouldn't get over-involved with that kind of thing. It seems unhealthy. Being that enveloped in the Anti-Trump movement might cause some mental distress. Trump's impeachment will happen or it won't, and you must accept the fact of both and move on. On the other hand, I believe that it is based on perspective. It seems too cynical for me to accept that we all live to die and that's it, due to the fact that I can see it in a different light other than distractions or denial. My philosophy is as follows; you live your life for the benefit and well-being of others and the improvement of society, while gathering as much wisdom and knowledge as possible. For one day, it may be passed onto another generation to build upon, coming closer to the truth. We all know Socrates. Question everything!
@@sneakykilla12 Getting philosophical? What about Karma and past lives? Would'nt that affect your current life, behavior especially? Lol. Couldn't help it. I love Beckett, Camus, Kafka.... the doom and bleakness, there's a beauty in that and when you add the rhythm of Beckett's works , that's beautifully genius! But I don't believe the universe is pointless. I think it feels that way sometimes and it seems impossible otherwise, but nature and her patterns & equations, science and outlandish predictions based on mathematics turning out to be real, the impossibility thatis the human body...
that can't be pointless. What's that mean for life? Idk but I know we are not in a simulation so please do dont @ me w that bullshit or flat Earth propaganda. Respect ma vibe. Lol 😎✌
At last somebody who understands!
Great video. So nice to create something that many years later people can still find helpful, so I don’t know at what time of your artistic adventure you are but I hope you are proud of the fact that people can still find interesting after many years from the creation of the video!
I've been doing research for days for a paper on this play and seriously nothing has been more of a help than this video omg thank you so much for this insightful, intelligent discussion.
+Kylie Blair my pleasure!
Making a short film on this? Would you like to help?
@@anubhabchatterjee7946 i would appreciate ur heeelp , are u still available?
My good friend and I performed a section of waiting for Godot for our final Higher performance and it was amazing! It was the best thing I've ever done, we got full marks, and while reading about the play I fell down a Wikipedia rabbit hole into all this absurd philosophy. It's really cool to see you talking about all these things and your interpretation is really fascinating, thank you.
yo im performing this for a serious speech duet, any tips?
@@rg-ed5fr pick a reading for the character and go for it, there's a ton of room in the script so have fun!
The way you speak, your pronounciation, the accent everything. Oh My God..!!! You as a speaker is simply awesome. Can't get over your style of speech.
Second thing, you literally just made, waiting for godot my favourite from "the least interested category".
Thanks a lot.
It's called an English accent. How English is supposed to be spoken, unless you've had a Guinness or two.
Huge props on your French, my friend~ As a French speaker, I couldn't be more pleased with your efforts
Very insightful video! I studied Beckett's play this semester in English, but never thought knew about the historical context and how it connects so well with Camus's philosophy. Good job!
Hi Olly
I saw Waiting for Godot in 2013 performed by the Sydney Theatre Company with Hugo Weaving and Richard Roxburgh as Vladimir & Estragon.
I went into the play not aware of the Absurdist interpretation and came out with what seemed like an entirely different experience than the rest of the audience. The most striking scene for me was Lucky’s speaking scene. While everyone around me was laughing I was more horrified than I’d ever been in a theatre at the shear degradation of the human spirit I was witnessing. I saw a once fulfilled, well spoken individual reduced to a mere puppet, barking on command.
I was struck by the similarities between Lucky and the Jewish folktale of the Golem. In the tale a creature is bought to life to serve the will of man until man grows scared of his creation and destroys it. A golems only form of protest is to perform a task ad absurdum when instructions aren’t specified clearly (e.g dig a well a mile deep, turn an entire forest into table legs, etc.)
In some versions of the myth the golem is inscribed with the word emet (meaning truth) to bring it to life and has the character aleph removed leaving met (meaning death) to destroy it. I saw clear parallels between this and Lucky’s hat which when placed on his head allows him to “think” for the other characters entertainment and when this scares the characters they wrench the hat off his head mid-sentence “killing” him.
Interesting analysis. I have often wondered if all the characters shouldn't be wearing the striped clothing of concentration camp victims/survivors/detainees. I can't help but think that absurdist philosophy is turned into nihilism in the plays of Beckett. The date of the creation of this work means that the horror stories of the camps (& those from Stalinist Russia)--in addition to the degradations suffered by the French during the Occupation--must have informed Beckett's creation. To my eyes, these characters are man stripped bare. All the world--including its philosophers and artists--must have suffered a severe self-doubt after hearing and comprehending the full horrors of WWII.
I'm autistic and I do the same thing ;) seriously though this is such a good interpretation
Thank for a most wonderful lecture! Im an director from Sweden. Worked with Becketts plays for long time. Never came across any anyone who could nail it like you. Most helpful.
Thanks! Let me know if you're casting anything in London, haha!
This is exactly how I perceived the play, thank you you are the first I've seen that connected myth of Sisyphus
Was totally not interested at all in waiting for Godot. Is now near the top of my to watch list. Thank you muchly.
+Taylor Adams hah, awesome!
And when we get there the Irish in me is going to claim it for France!
Albert Camus #7 response is the same thing buddha said millenia ago
I enjoyed your enthusiasm.
Thanks!
This is brilliant! Makes me LOVE Godot and the absurd even more. Plus he's lovely to hear and look at.
I have an exam in like 37 minutes about this is so helpful, thank you so much
how’d it go
@@rg-ed5fr iirc i got an 8 or so, so pretty fine!
If anyone is in the acceptance state it is Vladimir. In act II he bit by bit starts realising that he is stuck in this repeating loop. And he doesnt go away, he doesn't try to follow the boy or anything. He just... keeps going... I guess.
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Excellent and thought provoking. I never thought of that comparison nor the other conclusions you drew. Great!
Lot of thanks! I've enjoyed your enthusiastic comparison between myth of Sisyphus and waiting for Godot. Love love. It helped a lot for making my notes on it.
8. Show your bilingual ability on RUclips by speaking French
He doesn't need to list all "career choices" because in this Philosophy life is absurd and nothing ever can feel the void. Humans try all sorts of diversions to not look into the void directly but its still there and our compulsion in doing stuff and getting somewhere every day of our lives is the way we do it. Accepting this reality, this Absurd, is Camus' way of dealing with the Absurd. I think that Accepting or Not Accepting the absurd is equally pointless.
you still don't get it
hey sammy2629.. look what I found!!! there's a stick up your ass
And his pronunciation is horrible... Why can't any f*ckin' Englishman or American pronounce a trilled or an uvular R?? This really pisses me off more than it should.
It's because native English speakers do not have that sound in their own language, and the ability to produce that sound is lost in early childhood with the development of English speech. I suggest you look into a basic linguistics class to cure you of irritation with speakers of other languages who study for years to speak French but are unable to speak like a native, because they ARE NOT NATIVE FRENCH SPEAKERS.
The whole time I studied this in high school, I was worried I wasn’t “getting it”. Glad to see that my crazed ramblings were based in actual philosophy. If only I found this video before my final exam.
Spot on, I think large elements of what you describe is exactly what Beckett was attempting to portray. Also you have a knack for explanation that exceeds many more famous critics.
Awesome video! As I'm reading "Waiting for Godot" for a play analysis class at my university, I really appreciated this.
Amaaaaaaaazing. Im extremely shocked by your description and I'm sooo impressed, you helped me to love this play a lot more. Thanks.
So this video is rather old at this point but AUGH I had forgotten about Camus since I read him in college, and I had to pause the video about halfway through and go on a rant to myself alone in my apartment.
I personally found Camus insufferable because he fails (in my view) to describe how accepting the absurd is actually a different way of life than those six methods you listed, which in practice means he completely fails to escape denial/distraction/creation/politics/etc, let alone explaining how anyone else could. Because, okay, you accept the absurd, but now what do you do with your life? Aren't you basically going to continue to choose a mixture of those six options regardless? I never really understood what acceptance of the absurd looks like in practice and how it's different from another way of life. Like, in the context of your interpretation of Waiting for Godot, should Vladimir and Estragon becomes slaves to Pozzo? Would that be the best way for them to embrace the absurd? Because they are clearly not leading fulfilling lives as it is, and if the play has any idea that resonates most clearly with an audience that seems to be the main one - that its characters are miserable due to their own inability to create or find meaning.
I studied theater and work in theater, and the most interesting insight I know of about Waiting for Godot was this: After a semester of reading a whole variety of plays, we were tasked with writing our own in small groups. One group visited the student center and simply transcribed the interactions they heard. The question was, what style of "realist" playwright would the conversation they recorded most resemble? Surprisingly, it wasn't any realist playwright, but rather Beckett's absurdism, that the transcribed dialogue most resembled.
It seems to me like this school of thought comes to the conclusion that deciding to be happy despite a miserable life is the only solution, but is unable to provide any actual means of which to find that source of happiness through willpower. Strikes me kind of like a depressed person saying "there's no meaning to anything so I must choose to be happy" and attempting to force themselves to cheer up. But speaking as someone who struggles with depression, well, that simply doesn't work. You cannot just choose to be happy when you're not, or we wouldn't have a problem in the first place.
My latest understanding is that it's not about what you do but the attitude with which you do it. If you practise a religion because you genuinely believe it to provide meaning you are denying the absurdity of the universe, but if you accept that absurdity and choose to continue practising anyway you are doing so not because it provides meaning but for other reasons (perhaps you enjoy the community aspects or find the rituals to be relaxing).
That's not to say that after discovering the absurd you must simply return to what you were doing before but with a new attitude. Sisyphus only had a mountain and a rock with which to fill his existence whereas most of us have significantly more than that (depending on our various privileges).
I'm not a big philosophy person myself but I would say that acceptance and the other 6 are not mutually exclusive - simply accepting is enough in an absurd world, the rest is whatever you make of it.
He's a self righteous tart
I think Depression is an entirely different ball game: it's a biological set point of happiness inflicted on someone, and it's very low. I got the impression from Camus that by studying philosophy and by wrangling with our own thoughts regarding how we should live, we all come to one place. We recognize that choosing to be optimistic and happy is a fine way of life, as is choosing to be pessimistic and miserable. Being rich and successful is fine, and being poor out of principle or inaction is fine. When we recognize that happiness is not inherently better than sadness, and that sadness is not inherently better than happiness, we find some wiggle room, some opportunity to choose how we'd like to be.
That isn't to say that it's like a light switch. It's simply a feeling that one may, through their actions, change the way they think. The feeling that one can choose comes from the empowerment of getting better with a mental health issue. I have OCD, and after struggling a lot for a few years, I have gotten better, which is to say that I worry less. But I have a baffling new perspective: I worry less, but I also don't think I'm happier. And so, my conclusion is that both mental health and mental illness are fine ways to live, each with an infinite list of benefits and drawbacks. But I believe this is something that the mentally ill need to learn themselves.
From this point, now that I've reduced anxiety, I've simply shifted to the bigger questions of how will I go on living? And I believe this is where Camus was at in his writing. Not saying that one should choose to be happy in the face of absurdity, but that by recognizing how little capable we are of doing objective good or bad in this world, we may find an empowerment we didn't always know existed.
I know your comment is 3 years old, but I'm glad I could type lol
I am convinced myself that, at the end of the day, accomplishing goals seem to be the most satisfying thing to me. WHAT I'VE STRUGGLED WITH was making reasonable goals along the way to an ultimate successful goal (I just taught myself something here as I type by the way). In the fog of "waiting to accomplish a goal", that's where those other 6 responses could certain come in and interrupt the wavelength towards those goals. That's why I'm convinced that focus, tuning-out negative folks, and making consistent self-proclamations about the success you desire MAY help towards eliminating distractions from the outside, as well as those self-destructive thoughts on the inside.
The HOF Great Michael Irvin said that along the way to grinding along the road to the endzone for a touchdown, you must be able to complete those first-downs, and "CELEBRATE those small moments".
Damn, what I just realized is that you even have to have a defined meaning of what a small first-down looks like in your own life, AND THEN a defined plan to reach that small first-down goal. All this en-route to achieving your ultimate goal (which gives you meaning in living).
Hence, let me get started.....
when you were speaking in French I was reading the french text and translating it in my head into english LOL.
I did a paper on this play, because I read it, then I started studying philosophy, came back to the play to do the paper and realised there were all these philosophy jokes in it and there are also religious jokes too. I didn't get introduced to philosophy of the absurd sadly, so I didn't see the connection. Camus is definately someone I should read up on.
Really clear summing up of the play. Thanks
The production at Spoleto 2017 is absolutely first-class. I have served as a house manager for 34 years for the festival, and this production is in my top three plays during that time.
I've always considered Waiting for Godot to be an early work of ASMR. I'm personally very relaxed every time I watch it.
Excellent!!! Superb!!! None else has ever explained or can explain so easily, correctly, lucidly The Theatre of the ABSURD and the Philosophy concerned......................look forward to hearing more analytical discussions from you...........
I think that the optimal response to the Absurd is not merely acceptance, but rather the combination of acceptance and denial. Life is a pointless task in the end, this is true, and should be accepted as reality. However, this acceptance does not actually assist one in pursuing the task of life. Towards that end, denial is quite clearly the most beneficial solution - How can one get anything done in life, when it is seen only as a burden? Even if one imagines Sisyphus happy, that does not necessarily mean that they too can be happy when confronted with the Absurd. It is a monumental act of willpower which is at once impressive, being reminiscent of the qualities attributed to Nietsche's Overman, and yet also daft and inefficient. It is far easier to simultaneously hold two contradicting truths than it is to gladly hold true the certainty of one's own despair. Accept the Absurd nature of life, but also adamantly deny it, and turn oneself towards whatever meaning helps one best deal with life's lack of meaning.
wow this is beautifully written. well said
Idk man i think im fine with just acceptance, rip to you but I'm different
That is Camus' whole argument. The absurd is a product of the conflict between human desire for meaning and a meaningless universe. If you accept that the universe is meaningless and completely deny a search for meaning, the absurd falls apart. If you convince yourself that life has a meaning, the absurd falls apart. The absurd cannot exist without both of them, so both must be accepted (if you want to live authentically).
A very entertaining lively And truthful explanation, with the parallel comparison Camus, of Godot...totally agree, an artistical manner of expression plus the bonds we make with other fellow humans gives meaningfulness in this whole absurdity that we are nonetheless "lucky" to Live....living Life well seasoned with humour, taking ones work but not ourselves seriously is what can make us most happy...That's indeed what Beckett but also Prévert or Quéneau for example showed us too.....thanks again fellow resilient philosophizing artist
I'm Godot, I have arrived.
Beezletoad You have passed the test, good sir. It is not Michael Hand, it is I, Godot.
Michael Hand
objection!!!!
Thank goodness, I've been waiting!
Get your hand off it, Michael.
It's an invisible hand so it knows the position it must be in to enable Godart to arrive. Its better that way. At least then you don't know where it's been
whenever I need courage to continue your lecture's points keeps me going.
This was really well done and well spoken. Great evidence and reasoning.
Thought in a very clear and concise manner. Extremely helpful. Thank you!!!
I did not expect to see the 7 stages of grief here, they took me by surprise xD
dude, im doing a comparative text study in extension english, you have no idea how bloody helpful this vid was
I like how your education to be an actor has influenced your videos so much. It is nice to see you trying new things and getting more creative with your online lectures. The french talking part was, for me personally, a bit too much, but that is just me.
However, I must say I do miss the oldfashioned introduction to a philosophical idea, like you used to make them. Those videos were a major reason for choosing philosophy for my current education.
Insightful analysis of the play. Crystalline exposition of the philosophy. Positioning Lucky as icon of Absurdism with firm foundation. A must for every Professor of Literature. Simply delightful.
Extremely helpful. I had never thought incorporating philosophy into the play. But it perfectly makes sense. Thank you so much.
This has literally helped me so much for multiple English assessments and my exams thankyou so much !
This guy just explained what I was looking for!!! I've a test on this play after two days & this helped me a loooottttt!!
Thank you❤🌻
I really appreciate this video because for my theatre history class I have to write an absurdist play and this video gave me so many ideas. Great vid!
Thanks for this video. This play came up in one of my literature classes in college, but it wasn't handled by the lecturer as well as it was by you. I never knew that this was something that is connected to concepts that I am deeply interested in and if I hadn't seen your video, waiting for godot would be staying in that "boring and unnecessary information" shelf in my mind. Instead now, I want to go watch it . Thank you.
A brilliant interpretation of both Camus and Beckett.
This is awesome! Thank you so much for posting this video.
I'd like to thank you for helping me understand this play. I watched your video just before watching the play (probably a mistake if I wanted to form my own opinions, but at least I wasn't hopelessly confused) and I don't think I would have understood anything without.
I have never had someone explain waiting to godot un such a manner. Its lovely😊 thank you
Wow man, that's a good video .. keep it up with the philosophy man, one love
You're so god at explaining it with so much fun man! Congrats for your enthusiasm and good luck with you drama career! ;) Greetings from Spain.
Thanks!
This is a very good exploration of the philosophy of the play. I've watched it a number of times on film, and twice at the theatre (the first with Max Wall), and each time it reveals itself more fully. And I think you have it spot on.
As a playwright I cannot other than LOVE this play
I thoroughly enjoyed your breakdown and background. Well done.
Very interesting analysis, You've really enlighted me on this play!
I really loved this video. In our last year of secondary school, we read the play by having some classmates 'perform' it without ever having read it themselves, just reading the script out loud and attempting some form of acting. It made it both hilarious and maybe even more absurd, and I still think of the particular classmates that played a particular character when reading it.
Probably the best explanation on here of this enigmatic work. I like the philosophy angle and Becketts background, which explains quite a lot. The Boulder and "Forever" is what most WFG critics miss that Godot isnt French (nor is it pronounced Gudd-o like those bloody Americans do (why do they always have to pronounce things differently and think they are right?) but an Irish word, Gud'o (pronounced Goddo) which means, Forever. I.e. they will wait forever because Godot aint coming and never was.
Thank you very much, I'm going to use this video on Monday morning with my class in high school. Je sais déjà qu'ils vont adorer!
Thank you, Olly, this is very good. I will show it. Put Camus in the title, and thank you, again, for the compelling summary of that masterwork.
This helped me understand Godot a bit better, thanks! I've read Camus separately but I didn't make the connection between the two.
There's surely the time element too. God has already appeared and yet they're still waiting for Him.
Great deconstruction?! I also think Beckett clues us in a bit by how he let's us know that the actions of the play have been played before and Gogo and Didi and they know it. All the characters are content not to let on. You get the sense it will repeat again ..and again... Brilliant.
I wish this was out like 4 days ago, wrote a paper on this. I interpreted Godot was either God or Knowledge.
I absolutely agree. It seems as though a person that does not accept religion would depict the idea of God in such a way.
Your pronounciation of the English language is brilliant 👌
I was well trained!
Fucking hell, as a french person it was such an awakward delight to listen to your french... "Voilà !" "Simone de Bouvoir !" oh gawd I'm melting.
Well, you convinced me to buy and read this book/play. I like your channel and think that you are doing a great job!
Plays are not written to be read. You should see it performed.
Thank you!! Loved it!! Need it for my gr12 Drama students and you are ticking all the boxes!
incredible video! I've got a presentation on this next week and the video helped immensely :)
Amazing explanation, so much food for thought!
Thank you😊
I learned about Nihilism way back in HS, c 1986... I have more or less embraced it since... In the intervening years, I have often said... There is no meaning, no purpose, no grand plan... Nothing matters... In 1000 years no one will remember you or anything you did or stood for... But... You're here now... Might as well make the best of it... Is this acceptance..?
Your voice is soothing on the regular, but the French is curing my anxiety.
I really enjoy your discussions; thank your for presenting.
I am so happy that I just opened this video. This changed my entire perception about Absudism. Thanks a lot.
Had to watch this for a class, love it
This is a Wonderful Video! Thank you for taking the time to make it! I have two questions for you though: 1) IF history had played out differently, would Camus' choice of response to the absurd have changed? 2) What role does choice have in responses to the absurd? You say that Lucky, in "Waiting for Godot" is an ideal candidate for Camus' version of Acceptance by willingly continuing to live on in spite of absurdity. But in being a slave, what choice does he have?
I think his choice is the same as that expressed by Viktor Frankl in " Man's Search for Meaning,"in describing his concentration experience. He said the Nazis could take everything from him except his attitude, that is he could choose resentment or acceptance, and so on. The Nazis had no control over his spirit.
The movie "Groundhog Day" is another great example of this type of thinking.
Groundhog Day doesn't end in acceptance though. Sure, he ends up "living life anyway", but just before the ending when he's lying with his coworker, he still desires strongly, albeit futilely, that he could stay with her forever. Acceptance would be accepting that he'd have to go through the motions of courting and losing her over and over again for all eternity.
Nope.
You connected well to the myth of Sisyphus and the characteristics of the Absurdism!
I did a research about this play that was amazing work for me
Nice video, it helps to know the influences that helped to create this play, i dont think its meant to be a philosophical piece, its so open to interpretation that it could be many things. But I see your point about Lucky, he is the most intelligent character, but he’s not accepted that life is pointless as he clearly struggles with accepting his position in life, hence the violence, you could also interpret this as being the intelligent people who were conscripted into the army to fight, enslavement to the frontline to die a meaningless death at the orders of a man of high self confidence/worth but utter incompetence. Good video though so thanks.
Thank you, you just gave me something to think about. I wish now someday I can watch Waiting for Godot.
but Lucky can't be the absurdist hero. accepting the absurd does not mean we lose our soul to the universe and act as subjects. i thought the point was to rebel and revolt. i thought it was to live despite the lack of meaning. to experience art and do things despite them providing no meaning to us. does acceptance mean slavery? submission? i don't understand
Dear Olly (and others reading this), I am not sure if you are familiar with the band La Dispute (a USAnian melodic hardcore band), but they have made a series of spoken word recordings and songs in some of which they reproduce texts of famous authors. Their recording called 'Six' touches on the myth of Sisyphus in a beautiful way which I think you might find worth having a listen to. Their other albums are of a great introspective, philosophical and social commentary level too.
Smart kid, some very insightful concepts and contexts that will deffo help me in my journey towards examinations. Oi get a King Lear philosophical analysis in there!
WOW YOUR VIDEO JUST CHANGED MY WHOLE LIFE. THANK YOU!!!
You're welcome!
Just three extra points. Well, two and a half. The half is in agreement that the piece is very much about theatre. These two men only see each other two hours a day ("Where did you sleep last night?) as sunset approaches. That's when we perform plays. Wicked. Small ploint one: Lucky's speech makes total sense - it is a ruin, and ruins make sense - as ruins - and Pozzo and Lucky are linear, not cyclic (they go around, yes, but with big changes). Small point two: we seem to believe that Didi and Gogo are both waiting for Godot. When I played Estragon it became clear that Didi is waiting for Godot; Gogo is waiting for Didi. Because he loves him. Voluntarily (as per Camus)
Aren't responses 4, 5, and 6 to Absurdism just specific expressions of 3?
i find "try and make your own meaning" being bundled with "well god creates meaning" as a lazy way out, too.
Perhaps because Camus kind of bundled or dismissed them equally? It has been a long time since I read the Myth of Sisyphus, but I recall Camus was pretty critical of Kierkegaard in it who I guess kind of had a Christian response to absurdity.
sammy2629 probably has something to do with the romanticism of the arts.
nope, its that you just dont't deny , you embrace it (not fully as in 7) but cope in a practical way
(someone a name as stupid as yours don't deserve an answer)
I could watch him do these all day
Great explanation.. Only watching the play, (and never having read it) in my late 40's... I was wondering what all the fuss was about.... so I thought ... hey, give it a go. I'd kind of gotten the gist to an extent that meant I was thinking about what was going on and how things were interacting and loved it, and I'd have to say that your appraisal clarified some points I was, to say the least, a little fuzzy or undecided on... there are as I understand many interpretations of the work, but.... I'd say I would be happy to count this as a pretty damn good one..... plus you qualified your credibility as an actor, by mentioning in the patreon plea "for rent and food' or words to those effects :)
Well done and thank you for helping a rapidly ageing old fart (I'm usually a life-sized Victor Meldrew!!) to become more excited and enthusiastic about such work.
I haven't read the play (yet), so I can't really agree or disagree with you, but it's quite cool to see a philosophical interpetation of a play anyway :)
The idea of the time back then, that philosophers, artists (and resistance fighters) get fused in one person, has become an idea of history, I think. Nowadays, philosophers usually don't speak of themselves as artists. Philosophy has beome a discipline in academia, with lots and lots of technical terms, and some philosophers just write horribly. Maybe we could be inspired by this idea of philosophers being artists, at least a little bit. Philosophy has lost its artistic aspect in analytic philosophy.
Damn good job mate!! recommended your channel to my mates in Fiji Islands!!
i think you might have just helped me conclude a decade long existential crisis.. nice to know theres a artistic movement and philosophy dedicated to being fully aware of the pointlessness of the world weve been born into and making your own mocking point of it anyways in order to have one's own purpose.. it sure makes the cruel injustices easier to twist into dark comedies.
The universe exists, we exist...that is the meaning. Existence = Consciousness. Consciousness means to be aware. To be aware means to observe, to think and to act. From this point on man creates on all levels: philosophy, psychology, biology, physics, architecture, ideology, religion, wars and destruction and so on ...endlessly! It means reality always changes, societies change, scientific knowledge changes. Thus there is no end to creation...thus never a dull moment!
I'm reminded of Black Narcissus : when Sister Clodagh says ,"There are only two ways of living in this place ; either ignore it like Mr Dean or give yourself up to it like the Holy Man".
(I've paraphrased).
I notice Know-it-all doesn't include "Giving yourself up to it" in his list of
options for dealing with the Absurd.
I think Sister Clodagh had the more profound insight.
I've gotta an exam tomorrow and u seriously helped me a lot dude. Amazing perspective! 👍
Mr PeanutButter as Camus' interpretation of the absurdist hero go go go
It's Pozzo. Otherwise, a really amazing video! This described Waiting For Godot super well!
Thank you so much for making this!
amazing . thank you very much for this wonderful , clear and concise explanation .