I was a student at Salisbury College from September 1987 to June 1989 and was lucky enough to have a season ticket for travelling from my home in Trowbridge - paid for by the education department! This brings back great memories - loads of locos hanging around, locos being changed on trains for whatever reason, station pilots and the East yard being full of enginners wagons and wagons conveying military traffic. Thanks for posting!!
I hope you have a log of all your moves, you must have had loads of Cromptons! I started this day in Bristol and ended up Eastleigh before heading back to London. I managed to get 3 Cromptons for haulage easy. Not to mention all those i captured on video, Crompton heaven it was this day out!
3:36-5:31 was recorded while the absolute monster class 50 idled in the background, being Bristol Bath road my mentor for train handling hours(MP12 course) came from Westbury so Salisbury-Exeter for me everyday on these Beast's.
I don’t often say this but that was brilliant in every respect. I love hand held footage because it gives you the freedom to pan the shot wherever the action is, which you do freely. None of these unrealistic static shots that don’t even follow the train you are filming. I had forgotten how busy Salisbury was!
Thank you for your observations. I had a large Panasonic M1 which took full sized E180 tapes and sat on my shoulder, so was quite steady. As you stated it allowed me great freedom to pan round on names or numbers which I still do. And yes, wasn't Salisbury a great place! I still have more from here to upload over time.....
Feeling nostalgic and emotional watching this, Remember as a boy growing up in the 80s(Born in July 1973 ) watching and hearing these classic locomotives that ruled the rails back then ❤️ Classic Crompton and Hoover,Class 47 and other Old School locomotives and that destinctive sound that today's Generation of Trains don't ,Nowadays at Aged 49 going on 50 it's a boring world since Privatisation,Miss these classic locomotives 😍🥺🎩🇬🇧Proper trains back then ❤️
That';s one of things that's striking about old recordings on tape, how good the sound is. Very interesting mixed freight 4:20, and double Crompton-headed ballast train.
Before i got a vid cam i used cine film, four and a half minutes of silent film. Then along comes my vid cam that took full sized E180s tapes and for the same price as a cine film i got 3 hours with sound! Which meant i could film full length trains rather than the loco and a wagon or two. With Underground trains i could get about 5 full length shots before the film ran out, all of a sudden i could do distance shots arriving and departing! And Salisbury here was an interesting place to film, loco hauled West of England expresses, Portsmouth-Cardiff's, push-pull London locals, the odd Thumper, some freight and odd light engine moves-a great day out!
Living in Yeovil we used to call Salisbury Central city as it was the ultimate junction for cromptons. Spent so much of my youth here on Area C and 6 rovers. Happy days...
Once again, great stuff. Very nostalgic of a bygone era. How sterile our railways have become. I spent a little time at Salisbury a couple of years ago. Got bored in no time. Now our railways are all block goods trains, mostly aggregates and intermodal, passenger trains are multiple units, very few loco hauled trains left.
thank you....Salisbury was always worth time to film the action going on. Now i imagine its Sprinter City with the odd bit of freight if you're lucky.....
I commuted between Farnborough and Salisbury in the early 80's and used to watch those 33 push-pull sets leaving. When the loco took power and pulled away, the whole body would tip sideways as the engine sped up. They were definitely in the 'sporty-acceleration' class, and galloped away from a start pretty briskly.
Yes, Crompton's were great little Sulzer locos. Unlike the 25, 26 & 27's they had no steam heat boiler so had a slightly bigger engine hence more thrash!
Sitting at Salisbury today seems dull by comparison..I used to often spot here in the mid 80s and this brings back many memories especially the Exhibition coaches. I used to sit that end of platform one on a handy BRUTE which one could also use for seeing over the wall.
Yes, Salisbury was a great place traffic wise.......And the old BR BRUTE's (British Rail Universal Trolley Equipment) were always good for sitting to watch the world go by.......
Great footage. Don't think I ever saw so many 33s together as that and I'm from down in the Southern Region ! Never spent any time at Salisbury, shame as it looked a good location.
Back in the eighties I used to service the lamps and sundries on the Exeter's at Waterloo... if someone had told me I would be living almost alongside the line at Gillingham 30 years later watching the dreadful 158's torturing the poor peeps I would have thought 'em barmy lol
Gone are those days. There used to be a 'Network Southeast day'. where an all day ticket cost 10 quid, and you could go anywhere in the Network Southeast area, including London. So i used to go to London from Portsmouth, spend all day on the underground, and then in the Evening, take a train out to Salisbury, and wait for the last Cardiff to Portsmouth Express of the day, and use it to go home again.
Yes, i've done a couple of Network Days (there's an upload of one here ruclips.net/video/ABw_5CEIFCU/видео.html), great days out. I ended up on the West of England loco hauled workings, lots of loco haulage + vids.
Well this one is ridiculously good. 33’s and 50’s on passengers. First time I spent any real-time at Salisbury was early 1990. 155’s on the Cardiff-Portsmouth by then alas but lots of NSE 50’s and a fair bit of freight. Glory days. Wish I’d made the trip down to Salisbury and Weymouth lines a year or so earlier. Thank you, once again,for posting your vids. Cheers Andy
Thanks for your memories Andy. I will have to get up some vids taken at Salisbury in 1990 and 91. Just as you say, there were still loco hauled, Thumpers and freight about. Plus the odd Crompton still on the West of England's covering for failures......great days!
Salisbury was 1 of them stations to get the Crompton Mash. Of which before I realized I liked these little locos , I saw at fratton many times . Great old school footage
Lovely to see these old trains I used to commute on. Proper windows where you pull them down and get some decent fresh air. 😁Locomotives that sounded growly on some trains (Class 37’s, I think?). The seats were far more comfy on the older trains.
Great video. Sadly I only drove 158s, 159s & 170s (before they got rid of them), there. We had another bubble car as a road learner for a while but I wasn't trained on that. I had the perfect SWT pay number though - 1598. One of our drivers was down at Exeter one day with a Crompton & TC and the Western shunter said that he would unhook the engine so the driver could run round. He couldn't believe it when the driver said that he didn't need to. Starting my career at Bournemouth initially, I can't imagine how the 33s coped with Honiton Bank, it was bad enough leaving Upwey heading towards Dorchester South. Interesting times.
The SR Cromptons had a fair bit of power, more so than a 25, 26 or 27 as they were built with ETH and not steam heat with a boiler, so had a bigger engine. I have driven a fair few locos but nether touched the SR ones, indeed my world ended at Mitre Bridge Junction.....
We started here with the GW150 in August 85 which gave debuts for 50s 33s 56s 47s 37s and 09s and ran off one shot of regular 33117 the following Autumn when Flying Scotsman and Clan Line visited. Dad wasn't a fan of impudent diesels muscling in on steam giants.
I worked on diesels, that's what i grew up with. Although i did work on a couple of steam locos, piloting them along the main line, one of which was Scotsman, it used to be kept at Southall near where i worked.....
I remember the Class 33s being used on push pull service when the 3rd rail stopped at Bournemouth (BR initially didn't think it cost effective to extend electrification to the end of the line at Weymouth (they were so cash strapped), an example of lack of Government investment costing more money in the end). The Class 33s could be driven apparently in more than one way - by that I mean the driver could bring the Sulzer engine up to speed and then `throw a contactor' putting full voltage on to the traction motors (that's what it felt like anyway....while bringing the engine up to speed the train was only creeping forward) and the train would shoot out of Waterloo with stunning acceleration up to about 20 - 30 MPH, nice memories 11:32
Ooo the "vep" Thumper, literally the same cab plate as the VEP but no corridor on the headplate, I remember when they took over from the 33+MK1s on the Oxted to London Bridge's making BR regret the expense of the platform 7/7a headshunt for the 33's to scoot in and out of whilst waiting for their return run. Originally they used to scoot into the platform not being used by the Oxted but it was a major signalling problem as the engine had to be signed into the main approaches block then stopped, then the signalman had to walk over to the panel and manually path it back into an occupied platform leading to much moaning mollified by a tiny 33 size headshunt included at some considerable expense.
Of course the 33's didn't stop at Oxted and went on through to Uckfield or East Grinstead. Can't remember if they ever went through to Lewes, does anyone know?
Loved this one. although ive never been to Salisbury station just love the old intercity blue grey livery and " proper' carriages. plus had a giggle when after the long inter city's slowly accelerating. a bubble car came hurtling through the station !😁
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus bit like me after ive tipped for the day !!👍😉😉. I'm stuck in the house for the foreseeable (bad lungs. high risk group) so I'm working my way through your back catalogue 😁
@@Mitch-Hendren That'll keep you occupied for a while then! Where i am is fairly rural so walking the dog you don't meet up with many people, so that's a bonus. I imagine my old home in Potters Bar is nowhere near so much fun! Stay safe....
33s and 3 4tc sets to be seen, that had to be pretty rare. The 121 route learner was interesting. The 155s couldnt have been long from entering service either.
I got down there just before the timetable change when the Cromptons were due to be replaced by the 155s. The 33+TC sets were regular performers on the Waterloo run, the Exeters were 2 hourly and in between the 33+TCs ran as stoppers to Basingstoke (then Wok, Clap, Wloo) which made them also 2 hourly. In later years 50s & 47s took over all workings until they fell apart (along with the coaching stock) so they extended the Reading Thumpers from Basingstoke through to Salisbury evry 2 hours in between the Exeters. Lots of which is on film and will probably appear on here!
50009. Hellfire!!!!!!!!!! I was lucky enough to see them all. Went to Weymouth on holiday. Realized there was a southern ranger option and spent the whole week bashing 33's and 50's on Exeter to Waterloo services. Saw nothing of Weymouth or my parents. Bet holiday ever. My LORDZZZZZZZZ!
My only shots of 009 on video! I went out to see and ride on the Cromptons from Bristol to Southampton this day, Salisbury was the highlight! So much traffic there and mostly loco hauled.......
@@joeking5310 I don't believe I went to Yeovil mate. I would catch a push pull 33 from Weymouth normally up to Basingstoke and then bash 50's between there and Salisbury.
Wonder what all them 4TC's were doing lurking there and good to see the central signalbox still had its stairs etc as its all bricked up nowadays and none of the railstaff are even aware its was once a very busy signalbox lol
At this time it wasn't in use as a box as far as i know, it had been moved to a room at the London end of the Down platform. It was used by rail staff for something though, possibly a room for the Mossy?......
What a wonderful video, Salisbury is very close to home and I go through there regularly, I think I would of preferred it back then! Only see the same DMUs now! By any chance, did you ever film in Andover?
If you mean the MkI coaches (shunting in the yard where the Depot now is) i think they were some sort of travelling college train that ran for a whil in the late 80s.
trainrover "Hoover" was a railfan nickname for the Class 50s, so the diesel loco at the start of the film is an example. "Cromptons" are the smaller bo-bo diesels in the film, officially Class 33.
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I was a student at Salisbury College from September 1987 to June 1989 and was lucky enough to have a season ticket for travelling from my home in Trowbridge - paid for by the education department! This brings back great memories - loads of locos hanging around, locos being changed on trains for whatever reason, station pilots and the East yard being full of enginners wagons and wagons conveying military traffic. Thanks for posting!!
I hope you have a log of all your moves, you must have had loads of Cromptons! I started this day in Bristol and ended up Eastleigh before heading back to London. I managed to get 3 Cromptons for haulage easy. Not to mention all those i captured on video, Crompton heaven it was this day out!
Great to see this... The trains we loved.❤
3:36-5:31 was recorded while the absolute monster class 50 idled in the background, being Bristol Bath road my mentor for train handling hours(MP12 course) came from Westbury so Salisbury-Exeter for me everyday on these Beast's.
I don’t often say this but that was brilliant in every respect. I love hand held footage because it gives you the freedom to pan the shot wherever the action is, which you do freely. None of these unrealistic static shots that don’t even follow the train you are filming. I had forgotten how busy Salisbury was!
Thank you for your observations. I had a large Panasonic M1 which took full sized E180 tapes and sat on my shoulder, so was quite steady. As you stated it allowed me great freedom to pan round on names or numbers which I still do. And yes, wasn't Salisbury a great place! I still have more from here to upload over time.....
My father and I had the same kind of set up, have a look at my clips.
@@aureol40012 I am working at the Manchester beer festival this week but will check out your uploads when I get home🙂
Feeling nostalgic and emotional watching this, Remember as a boy growing up in the 80s(Born in July 1973 ) watching and hearing these classic locomotives that ruled the rails back then ❤️ Classic Crompton and Hoover,Class 47 and other Old School locomotives and that destinctive sound that today's Generation of Trains don't ,Nowadays at Aged 49 going on 50 it's a boring world since Privatisation,Miss these classic locomotives 😍🥺🎩🇬🇧Proper trains back then ❤️
I'm pleased you enjoyed it.....
Brilliant to see this era and this stock. Thanks for up-loading 👍
Always plenty of thrash at Salisbury in those days, mainly Sprinters now....
That';s one of things that's striking about old recordings on tape, how good the sound is. Very interesting mixed freight 4:20, and double Crompton-headed ballast train.
Before i got a vid cam i used cine film, four and a half minutes of silent film. Then along comes my vid cam that took full sized E180s tapes and for the same price as a cine film i got 3 hours with sound! Which meant i could film full length trains rather than the loco and a wagon or two. With Underground trains i could get about 5 full length shots before the film ran out, all of a sudden i could do distance shots arriving and departing! And Salisbury here was an interesting place to film, loco hauled West of England expresses, Portsmouth-Cardiff's, push-pull London locals, the odd Thumper, some freight and odd light engine moves-a great day out!
Living in Yeovil we used to call Salisbury Central city as it was the ultimate junction for cromptons. Spent so much of my youth here on Area C and 6 rovers. Happy days...
Yes, Salisbury looked to be a good spot for Crompton chasing back then.......
Once again, great stuff.
Very nostalgic of a bygone era.
How sterile our railways have become. I spent a little time at Salisbury a couple of years ago. Got bored in no time. Now our railways are all block goods trains, mostly aggregates and intermodal, passenger trains are multiple units, very few loco hauled trains left.
thank you....Salisbury was always worth time to film the action going on. Now i imagine its Sprinter City with the odd bit of freight if you're lucky.....
I commuted between Farnborough and Salisbury in the early 80's and used to watch those 33 push-pull sets leaving. When the loco took power and pulled away, the whole body would tip sideways as the engine sped up. They were definitely in the 'sporty-acceleration' class, and galloped away from a start pretty briskly.
Yes, Crompton's were great little Sulzer locos. Unlike the 25, 26 & 27's they had no steam heat boiler so had a slightly bigger engine hence more thrash!
Tip-tops!
That DMU!! They didnt hang about when shunting the 33's at Salisbury! Flying around!
Sitting at Salisbury today seems dull by comparison..I used to often spot here in the mid 80s and this brings back many memories especially the Exhibition coaches. I used to sit that end of platform one on a handy BRUTE which one could also use for seeing over the wall.
Yes, Salisbury was a great place traffic wise.......And the old BR BRUTE's (British Rail Universal Trolley Equipment) were always good for sitting to watch the world go by.......
Great video 😊
Great footage.
Don't think I ever saw so many 33s together as that and I'm from down in the Southern Region !
Never spent any time at Salisbury, shame as it looked a good location.
Wonderful! The good old days
Oo la! what a delightful surprise, bookmarking me here to footage of my old haunt (albeit down the line at Gillingham)..ta dum! Got it 🍻
Brilliant as always.
Thank you!
Back in the eighties I used to service the lamps and sundries on the Exeter's at Waterloo... if someone had told me I would be living almost alongside the line at Gillingham 30 years later watching the dreadful 158's torturing the poor peeps I would have thought 'em barmy lol
Another great collection of clips from days gone by. Any video of South Western loco hauled trains is fine by me!
There will be more in the futire!
Future even!!! lol
Soi Buakhao 😂👍🏻
Lots of fantastic rail blue action 👍🏻
Yes, not much NSE about down there at the time.....
Have to admit the sound quality is/fantastic, happy days when you good hear Locomotives , must have been really good gear,
I was using a Panasonic M1 which took E180 VHS tapes, so everything was recorded just as if off the telly!
I used to love the smell of the diesels, a combination of herring oil and paraffin with a hint of vanilla
Gone are those days.
There used to be a 'Network Southeast day'. where an all day ticket cost 10 quid, and you could go anywhere in the Network Southeast area, including London.
So i used to go to London from Portsmouth, spend all day on the underground, and then in the Evening, take a train out to Salisbury, and wait for the last Cardiff to Portsmouth Express of the day, and use it to go home again.
Yes, i've done a couple of Network Days (there's an upload of one here ruclips.net/video/ABw_5CEIFCU/видео.html), great days out. I ended up on the West of England loco hauled workings, lots of loco haulage + vids.
I did quite a few of them as well.
Well this one is ridiculously good. 33’s and 50’s on passengers. First time I spent any real-time at Salisbury was early 1990. 155’s on the Cardiff-Portsmouth by then alas but lots of NSE 50’s and a fair bit of freight. Glory days. Wish I’d made the trip down to Salisbury and Weymouth lines a year or so earlier. Thank you, once again,for posting your vids. Cheers Andy
Thanks for your memories Andy. I will have to get up some vids taken at Salisbury in 1990 and 91. Just as you say, there were still loco hauled, Thumpers and freight about. Plus the odd Crompton still on the West of England's covering for failures......great days!
Salisbury was 1 of them stations to get the Crompton Mash. Of which before I realized I liked these little locos , I saw at fratton many times . Great old school footage
Thank you..... i never realised how much Crompton action there was there......
Lovely to see these old trains I used to commute on. Proper windows where you pull them down and get some decent fresh air. 😁Locomotives that sounded growly on some trains (Class 37’s, I think?). The seats were far more comfy on the older trains.
The seats were much more comfy on trains past. Today it's almost like sitting on a lump of wood!
Great video. Sadly I only drove 158s, 159s & 170s (before they got rid of them), there. We had another bubble car as a road learner for a while but I wasn't trained on that. I had the perfect SWT pay number though - 1598.
One of our drivers was down at Exeter one day with a Crompton & TC and the Western shunter said that he would unhook the engine so the driver could run round. He couldn't believe it when the driver said that he didn't need to.
Starting my career at Bournemouth initially, I can't imagine how the 33s coped with Honiton Bank, it was bad enough leaving Upwey heading towards Dorchester South. Interesting times.
The SR Cromptons had a fair bit of power, more so than a 25, 26 or 27 as they were built with ETH and not steam heat with a boiler, so had a bigger engine. I have driven a fair few locos but nether touched the SR ones, indeed my world ended at Mitre Bridge Junction.....
We started here with the GW150 in August 85 which gave debuts for 50s 33s 56s 47s 37s and 09s and ran off one shot of regular 33117 the following Autumn when Flying Scotsman and Clan Line visited. Dad wasn't a fan of impudent diesels muscling in on steam giants.
I worked on diesels, that's what i grew up with. Although i did work on a couple of steam locos, piloting them along the main line, one of which was Scotsman, it used to be kept at Southall near where i worked.....
A rare shot too of a "slim jim" 33/2 at 2:00 aka the engine that put BRCW out of business...no more cromptons :(
I love the Speedlink working with the crippled stone tippler.
I remember the Class 33s being used on push pull service when the 3rd rail stopped at Bournemouth (BR initially didn't think it cost effective to extend electrification to the end of the line at Weymouth (they were so cash strapped), an example of lack of Government investment costing more money in the end). The Class 33s could be driven apparently in more than one way - by that I mean the driver could bring the Sulzer engine up to speed and then `throw a contactor' putting full voltage on to the traction motors (that's what it felt like anyway....while bringing the engine up to speed the train was only creeping forward) and the train would shoot out of Waterloo with stunning acceleration up to about 20 - 30 MPH, nice memories 11:32
I aim to please!!! I was in Bournmouth to film these as their time was neigh......
Nice seeing 33s on Cardiff Portsmouth
Ooo the "vep" Thumper, literally the same cab plate as the VEP but no corridor on the headplate, I remember when they took over from the 33+MK1s on the Oxted to London Bridge's making BR regret the expense of the platform 7/7a headshunt for the 33's to scoot in and out of whilst waiting for their return run. Originally they used to scoot into the platform not being used by the Oxted but it was a major signalling problem as the engine had to be signed into the main approaches block then stopped, then the signalman had to walk over to the panel and manually path it back into an occupied platform leading to much moaning mollified by a tiny 33 size headshunt included at some considerable expense.
Thanks for your memories.....All history now as London Bridge is all rebuilt now, and it's box closed!
Of course the 33's didn't stop at Oxted and went on through to Uckfield or East Grinstead. Can't remember if they ever went through to Lewes, does anyone know?
Loved this one. although ive never been to Salisbury station
just love the old intercity blue grey livery and " proper' carriages. plus had a giggle when after the long inter city's slowly accelerating. a bubble car came hurtling through the station !😁
Probably a route learning DMU and judging by the time of day (late afternoon) the crew were heading back to their home depot.....
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus bit like me after ive tipped for the day !!👍😉😉. I'm stuck in the house for the foreseeable (bad lungs. high risk group) so I'm working my way through your back catalogue 😁
@@Mitch-Hendren That'll keep you occupied for a while then! Where i am is fairly rural so walking the dog you don't meet up with many people, so that's a bonus. I imagine my old home in Potters Bar is nowhere near so much fun! Stay safe....
33s and 3 4tc sets to be seen, that had to be pretty rare. The 121 route learner was interesting. The 155s couldnt have been long from entering service either.
I got down there just before the timetable change when the Cromptons were due to be replaced by the 155s. The 33+TC sets were regular performers on the Waterloo run, the Exeters were 2 hourly and in between the 33+TCs ran as stoppers to Basingstoke (then Wok, Clap, Wloo) which made them also 2 hourly. In later years 50s & 47s took over all workings until they fell apart (along with the coaching stock) so they extended the Reading Thumpers from Basingstoke through to Salisbury evry 2 hours in between the Exeters. Lots of which is on film and will probably appear on here!
50009. Hellfire!!!!!!!!!! I was lucky enough to see them all. Went to Weymouth on holiday. Realized there was a southern ranger option and spent the whole week bashing 33's and 50's on Exeter to Waterloo services. Saw nothing of Weymouth or my parents. Bet holiday ever. My LORDZZZZZZZZ!
My only shots of 009 on video! I went out to see and ride on the Cromptons from Bristol to Southampton this day, Salisbury was the highlight! So much traffic there and mostly loco hauled.......
How did you get from Weymouth to Yeovil junction?
@@joeking5310 I don't believe I went to Yeovil mate. I would catch a push pull 33 from Weymouth normally up to Basingstoke and then bash 50's between there and Salisbury.
Wonder what all them 4TC's were doing lurking there and good to see the central signalbox still had its stairs etc as its all bricked up nowadays and none of the railstaff are even aware its was once a very busy signalbox lol
At this time it wasn't in use as a box as far as i know, it had been moved to a room at the London end of the Down platform. It was used by rail staff for something though, possibly a room for the Mossy?......
4TC's were used as coaches on the Waterloo to Exeter for a period in the 1990's.
👎🏻 to 158/159's bring back the Loco hauled Services👍🏻 Music to the ears, Crompton & propelling TC unit, departing Full Chat..
Salisbury was a great place to film trains, plenty of loco hauled action and a bit of freight as well!
Soi Buakhao The Working probably originated @ Tisbury on a London Waterloo Service..
What a wonderful video, Salisbury is very close to home and I go through there regularly, I think I would of preferred it back then! Only see the same DMUs now! By any chance, did you ever film in Andover?
I do have a couple of shots, I will see about uploading a class 47 west of England vid with Andover
Soi Buakhao that would be wonderful if you could! There’s not many videos on Andover back then, cheers.
Lovely footage for posterity,I should've been a train driver rather than just admiring from afar!...Heigh-ho!!.
Thank you..... i did follow my dreams and became a driver on BR and ended up driving locos..... best job i ever had!
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus Good for You Old Chap!!.👍🏽👍🏽😊😊
brilliant video so much going on can tell me what the blue & white pre match wagons were all about
If you mean the MkI coaches (shunting in the yard where the Depot now is) i think they were some sort of travelling college train that ran for a whil in the late 80s.
So there was a precursor of today's nannying female "may we have your attention please" auto-announcement then, then.
The Southern Region had this style of announcement al over. Not as annoying as today's endless procession of announcements
Which one must a Hoover?
The vid i have with a Hoover pulling a TC unit has not yet been uploaded to RUclips, but it will be!
trainrover "Hoover" was a railfan nickname for the Class 50s, so the diesel loco at the start of the film is an example. "Cromptons" are the smaller bo-bo diesels in the film, officially Class 33.
Loads of bag pipes 33s
Salisbury must have been one of the hot-spots to see Crompton action back then......
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus yes loads mostly on passenger
Oooh, cracking vid, what were those wagonas being shunted, the 'Post-Match' ones.. what were they for??
I seem to recall reading they were some sort of travelling college affair that ran for a while. Only saw them the once when filming here.