The Official Gilded Age Podcast Ep. 6 “Heads Have Rolled For Less”
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- Опубликовано: 27 фев 2022
- In part one, hosts Alicia Malone (TCM) and Tom Meyers (The Bowery Boys) debrief about the 6th episode of The Gilded Age and explore the figures and roles of men, women, and servants during the Gilded Age.
In part two, they are joined by Taissa Farmiga (Gladys Russell) and property master Michael Jortner to discuss pre-production, character development, selecting and sometimes creating props for The Gilded Age.
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Agnes is easily my favorite character. I love the way she stood up for Peggy against Ms. Armstrong. Also Larry is such a sweet brother and I'd like to see more of him.
Agnes is my favorite too. I’m so glad someone else thinks so, I thought I was alone.
One of the things I noticed in ep.6 was Bertha's centerpiece and how McAllister is obviously impressed by the use of hyacinths and lilacs. However, those are two heavily fragranced flowers and would not usually have been used on the dining table because the fragrance can overpower the senses. (I'm an old florist with formal English training in botany and flower arranging) God, I love this show!
Those were my thoughts exactly....such strong smelling flowers.
I thought it was even more alarming that they had lit candles in the arrangements, during a daytime event.
@@jelsner5077 Yes! The candles would never have been lit at a luncheon, and the pedestals in the centerpiece would have been more suited to a dinner table, no?
@@rosesareredmydear Yes D Red, they are appropriate for an evening event, since they have candleholders attached to them. They would never have had candles, lit or unlit, on the table for luncheon. The English butler should have pitched a fit.
I love that you noticed that!
I LOVE this podcast!! HISTORY BUFFS/NERDS alike!! Thank you for the REAL LIFE context
“If I spent everyday fighting with bigots, I’d never get anything done.” WHAT A MIC DROP!!
I’m absolutely 99.90% certain that Tom Raikes has other motives with Marion. Agnes knows it, and this last episode confirmed it as PEGGY SCOTT even told Marion while on walk that it seems Raikes was nice but didn’t have a plan.
I agree he is shrewd. Coming on to quickly.
Also the meeting with McAllister shaking hands with Tom, using both hands sents a message, that did not pick up by Tom. That McAllister could be helpful for Tom. INTERESTING..
I don't trust the guy at all - he's 100% a playa
Well now Larry Russell can move in.. Hip Hip Hooray. kick Tom to the curb.
The scene with the borrowed butler had me howling! So hilarious it is hands down my favourite scene thus far.
baby he wanted that 100 dollars
When Aunt Agnes says, "Heads have rolled for less" I about died. My favorite scene so far.
Agnes compares most tragedies the war. So, 5 casualties from a train derailment is small when looking at the casualties from the Civil War. Death in itself is tragic but Agnes has seen so much death that she is now desensitized to it.
I just finished the episode. Oh my goodness! It's getting better and better every time. The characters are beginning to move in their story. I love it!!!
Okay Im only like 40 minutes thru the episode, but its just been a pure delight.
This week showed the first time George and Bertha had disagreement. With Turner still in the house, I think she will make her move on him again in a few episodes
George and Bertha will most likely be divorced.
Agreed. Bertha’s blind ambition may now be her undoing.
I just love love this program. I can't wait for Monday nights for the next episode. It's a great distraction to what's going on in this insane world events for an hour. Great job to the actors, crew and production.
This series of podcasts is excellent and very helpful. I wonder in this episode about the presence of photographs in a newspaper, generally thought those began to appear about 1900 with innovations in printing. I checked a bit, and might have known that the series producers would have been fastidious--it was in Daily Graphic in 1880, so perfectly correct for the episode.
Who wrote the note which made Agnes so furious any guesses? the Suspects Turner, Armstrong
or perhaps the Butler Church. I suspect Church, notice his expression as Bannister announces the guests and he is cordoned off out of the way in another room when this would clearly be his responsibility? Notice his expression when Agnes enters the Russell's home. Church is neither surprised nor upset and notice he does not announce the arrival of Agnes as expected of a visitor. I think Church wrote the note. Indeed the butler may have done it!
$100 in 1880 is equivalent in purchasing power to about $2,756.35 today, an increase of $2,656.35 over 142 years.
Bannister made a MINT
It explains why Church wrote that letter to Agnes to get him in trouble. Jealous butlers are petty. 😅
This episode set so many things in motion it's hard to even know where to start. Everyone got their life turned upside down in this installment. And the teaser for the next episode, oh my lord this is gonna become a huge mess.
I mean all these sweet juicy moments I had to reach for my smelling salts a couple of times throughout tonight's episode!!
I never think about props--the person who handles that has to really be resourceful. Interesting interview--I like to listen to you guys before I watch the show--it makes me look for things while I'm watching
I watch first so as not to be spoiled, then listen to the podcast then watch the episode again!
I know this episode is filled with “Easter Eggs” . I can’t wait to hear this podcast!
What an episode! What delicious moments! A bit over the top, but so much about this era is over the top. I found Glady's sharp tongue with her father about her mother a bit much. Would Consuelo Vanderbilt have ever talked to her father the way Glady's talked to Mr. Russell? I seriously doubt it, but I'm not going to nit pick. It was a fun episode. Very enjoyable.
Gladys sees everyone in that house saying or doing whatever they want constantly and she isn’t. I understand for the time period children weren’t as “crazy” as they are today. It’s human nature to eventually defend yourself no matter how long it takes, or you try to suppress the urge, and most importantly the method chosen to do it. This is where the terms of “I’ve forgotten myself “ “I’ve taken leave” and in present day “I snapped” or “I blacked out” come into play. She is a young woman still living at home only because she hasn’t been introduced in to society and or has found a suitable man her mother approves. Not even Bertha is content staying home with nothing to do, she’s always out being a socialite. The brother can come and go when he pleases because he’s a male and the fact that he works for their father makes it so he can be out and about. But not even he can escape the parent’s wrath because he is hiding the fact that he wants to go into architecture and not the family business. ANY service a person provides to the rich makes that person a “servant” or “help” no matter how much money they make or are respected for their craft. If the rich pay you, you are beneath them. That is why they ALWAYS pay their debts, never to be in gratitude to anyone beneath them.
Looking at Agnes at the end of this episode was like gazing upon a Queen or a Goddess who had fallen from grace and it was both sad and moving and it endured her character to me on a whole other level.
I was waiting on this podcast. Goodness this episode was so good & juicy. l was tickled pink how Agnes Butler snuck across the street to get that 100.00 .
Regarding the strong sent of the flowers, don’t forget in those days people didn’t wear deodorant (invented 1888 but still not worn much even in 1910) and other smells from a big city, horses in the streets, no air conditioning, coal furnaces, etc, flowers and herbs were used to create a better smelling atmosphere.
I adore this show THE casting actors THE writers awesome😍
I am enjoying this series SO much. The podcast is a wonderful extension. Thank you!
If you would, it might be helpful to include at least the name, if not a link, to resources and books mentioned in the podcast in the show notes.
The note that Agnes got before she stormed off across the street...hmmm. Who wrote that. It's either the Bertha's butler or Bertha herself. That is my guess. The butler was very insulted about the quick hire for the English butler from Agnes house. Or...Bertha is more conniving about her posture into society which George is now noticing her obsession about this. We will see who sent that note to Agnes.
Could be miss Turner wrote the node. She wanted to embarrass her employer for revenge.
I can't see Bertha jeopardizing her chance to win over Ward McCallister by sending that note DURING the luncheon.
I don’t understand why Mamie Fish refused to receive Bertha in a earlier episode but has entertained Larry and now Gladys (why does the costume dept punish her by making her wear that God awful Bo Peep hat and why is hair and makeup giving her that heinous hairdo? Poor thing).
Good question, not sure. I’ll imagine she’ll have a fantastic glow-up once she comes out into society.
I'm sure they do that to, at least in part, emphasize how much her mother (and society) infantilized her. A transformation for her is coming, and the clothing will help show it.
Gladys silly look and hair (omg, the hair... as if no comb is available for her anywhere) bothered me immensely from the first moment as well.
But like someone else said it, they probably want that wow effect when she is coming out and finally & hopefully gets styled appropriately.
Her hair is down because she isn't "out". Her hair and childish hat are for a girl, women wore their hair up. The style is one of Bertha's way of keeping Gladys a girl and under her control.
@@ericaobrien1563 Exactly, and reflective of that era's love for European fashions too.
The music is spectacular!
This episode was the best so far.
Esta serie la vi completa en HBO y me encanta. Pena que haya tan pocos capítulos.
Qué lujo. Debe salur carísima.
😘🙂📽
También debería tener su propia carpeta.
@3:56 I agree it was good to see that living conditions back then weren't that great. One thing we never see is the bathroom. Do you think the Russell household had indoor plumbing or toilets or did they use chamberpots? I'm curious who wrote that note to Mrs Van Rhijn informing her of what Bannister did. I also wonder what proof the engineer had that Mr. Russell himself approved that axel engine change.
For some reason I feel like it was Church, the Russell's Butler, that sent that note..or it could be Turner..🤷
@donnaflagg mmmhh interesting 🤔
@@miamonroe3246I also think it was Church.
I'm pretty sure they had indoor plumbing because by then it was available to the wealthy, and the kitchen has regular faucets so that shows there is indoor plumbing. I think Church wrote it because he wants Bannister out of his territory! Mr. Russell said they found his signature on the approval papers to use the axel making it his fault!!
Something puzzles me. The streets are not paved, all dirt. Yet they all walk across the street at some point. Were “crossings” at lower grade than the streets. They all wear the same length dresses that appear to touch the ground anyway. The bustles in the back make a train so the dress has to be dragging in the back. Or is it because rich ladies never walked anywhere outside other than a few feet straight from a carriage to the door.
The train would have had a cotton ruffle called a balayeuse loosely stitched to the underside edge. This would have protected the train from dirt and be removed for cleaning.
@@nono-io5kt Thanks!! I knew there was some method to it.
I am looking forward to seeing more of Peggy with her editor who requested the article on the political beliefs of disenfranchised women. I feel that romance is in the air there!
For some reason I don’t feel the chemistry between Marian and Tom so have a hard time getting interested in whether there is good relationship potential there.
I do think though that, for the time period, Tom was moving incredibly fast at the hotel in the last episode. Maybe I misunderstood what he was implying in the doorway to Marian’s hotel room, but I thought he was trying to persuade Marian to let him stay with her for the night. If that reading is correct, I guess there are two possibilities-he was overwhelmed by passion (lol) or he truly is a calculating rake. Or maybe both!
I find it amazing how much goes into the making of this show!! I love it!
What is so funny about the racial discrimination is that many people who are discriminating against Peggy are newly arrived immigrants, yet she is anAmerican.
Yes that is how it was!
Exactly
Predictions:
1) Mr. Raikes is actually wealthy, despite what Marian had assumed. That's part of why he's getting invited to all these society events; parents are trying to marry him off to their daughters.
2) Marian will reject Raikes and end up regretting it when she realizes.
3) Church was the one who sent the letter to tattle on Bannister.
4) Peggy's secret is a secret baby that her father made her give away for adoption.
5) Bertha will end up luring Bannister away to work for her permanently because she needs a British Butler full time. I suspect she's also going to pay him much more than the Van Rhijns did.
One way to look at the issue of balls at this period is to consider them as the period equivalent of speed dating as it was not appropriate for a young lady to dance with the same gentlemen twice.
😊 If Lord Fellowes or the production staff are reading this, I hope when you get to 1891 you will incorporate the opening of the beautiful New York Botanical Garden. Funding came from the wealthy of the time, Vanderbilt, Carnegie, etc. (I’ll offer to be the garden tour guide in the episode!! I have a connection!😉)
Most Amazing. 👍💯💅🐉🐲🐉🔥🔥
Can someone please help me are Oscar Van Rhijn's eyebrows supposed to look the way they do? I simply can't...
I am in love with the aesthetic
It would have been more believable if Marian was after Tom.
This would have explained his dumping her so easily.
The president probably thinks he’s in the gilded age so I believe it could happen
Every time they show pics of the set , my question is always WHY ARE THERE SO MANY CHAIRS??? Every room has a bunch a chairs, a loveseat, a settee , a chaise , like why did they need so much seating everywhere?
Why don't you 2 have a live chat? It would be great!
They should open a Spotify Greenroom
Tom Raikes is up to no good.
Why do you think that?
I am starting to feel this way too!! I gave him the benefit of the doubt for the past 5 episodes but tonight's just rubbed me the wrong way.
Aunt Agnes isn't always wrong........
@@ginnys8215 The problem is, that she was already “RIGHT” about Ada’s suitor. I was rooting for him and Ada, and all it did was make Agnes’ feel even more righteous if that’s even possible. I don’t think Tom is bad news. However, Agnes’ is about to make him do something he normally wouldn’t do. I believe he is going to use some of the society women to make Marian jealous so she will finally stand up to Agnes’ I also believed the first time Marian met Larry they would date and tonight’s episode once again sparked that idea for me. In my previous scenario, Larry is not only a good man, but the perfect one to make Tom jealous and infuriate Agnes in the process, especially since Armstrong told Agnes she saw Oliver and Turner together and that Barrington was caught at the Russell’s serving the event.
I also don’t think Tom can really use Marian. She is born to society and money, he isn’t. He’d have to make a fortune equitable to George to even be considered to be snubbed as “new rich” Now if he is trying to be a George himself, that’s a totally different story. One could argue him being for Doylestown, that he detests the rich and how they treat the poor but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t want to be rich himself.
@@MyDsmall I know what you mean. I think she may have suspicions but is in denial since he is her only son.
I truly wished I loved this show. I keep trying but somehow it falls flat for me. Waited years to watch it too.
How old is Marion when her dad died?
I would like to see that series, but it is unfair to have to pay for it too much!!!
Bro, I gave this show a shot but ya'll all like specifically cherry picking the most boring aspects of the 1880s (1880?). At a time when reconstruction had been shattered in America, there is so much drama to focus on from the race riots against the chinee in California and other western regions, the end of numerous Indian wars, and not to mention the repercussions (not reparations) against black people that led Ida B wells to write her anti lynching propaganda (good propaganda) a decade later. Instead we get an incredibly boring story about new money clashing with old money. The drama about passing a law to disallow another railway line to compete with an already established rail line doesnt even make any sense and during a time when union busting, racism, tribal retaliation, syphilis and other stds, dangerous work conditions ect... were the actual threats that faced railroads, it leads me to think that no one did any research on the 1880s before writing a story entitled "the gilded age." You know why it was called the "gilded age?" because mark twain wrote a parody story talking about how pompous people who talk big about themselves get unnaturally rewarded for their bold, exaggerated, and often times false statements, and it would all seem to crumble overnight (president Grant, though not the president at the time is a perfect example of typical corruption.) The show seems like a waste of opportunity. Though the costumes and sets are nice and the ladies are pretty. I watched about three episodes before giving up.
Peggy's story arc is good, but let's not forget the show is about the robber barons of the day.
Architecturally, the sets are not correct in their detailing.
That is probably the most accurate aspect of the show
@@jesseleeward2359 you two should have a debate about it