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Main - fiend warlock (of course only for first 5-6 levels, after that pretty standard blaster sorlock), Karlach - open hand monk (final build is monk 7, fighter 2, thief rogue 3 - one feat is enough), Astarion - shadow monk(mostly for fun, but it can utilise some equipment that none other in the party cannot - monk 8, rogue 4, starting as rogue). And Shadowheart, light cleric.
"There's no point me showing you a level 12 build at the end of Act 3 for honour mode" Thank you. Thank you, thank you. Soooo many builds are like "the weapon you use is Balduran's Giantslayer and Helldusk Armor" and I'm like by that time - I don't need to know what build to use lol. Thank you mate!
@@BromoProductions Sure, it's a joke but I wouldn't judge people playing this way, it's still pretty hard cause those three gotta carry some hard fights. Probably less broken than farming the vendors for elixirs/crafting mats/resurrection scrolls etc. I personally have honor mode games that are still in act 1 and have yet to play with just 3 three games in act
Right now for my honor mode run I'm doing a warlock/oathbreaker paladin hybrid just trying it out and seeing how I like it. My favorite setup for Paladin right now is Cleric/Paladin combo for the war domain extra actions stacking with extra attack for up to 3 divine smites in 1 turn. Very fun.
This is literally the same party I have been playing for the last 2 months. Minthara as smiter, karlach as thrower, shadowheart as stormlord and tav as face/dualer/lockpicker/stealth/utility... and I agree... this party is very strong.
Each playthrough I've tried to find three builds that synergize well so that I can have a 'core' party of 3 and leave the fourth slot to rotate between who has the most story relevance at the moment.
nice to give builds for mid game! so many videos talk about fully geared lvl12 builds that won't be available before the final combat. imho, easiest way to beat honor mode is to have cleric hirelings buffing at camp. u basically have resistance to all very early in the game. for the outside, I used light cleric shadowheart to bless everybody, retreat, and throw heal potions + some utility spells at specific moments. shadowheart is easy to gear with gloves, amu, and ring very early in the game. i used laezel as a pure fighter (or karlach as a fighter, i find it easier to play than barbarian), wyll as a sorclock for eldritch blast and for dialogs and my tav as a gloomstalker assassin which is so strong he can solo most of the time or at least kill half ennemies before the combat even start. just have to buy strength potions and get titanstring bow which you obtain very early in the game, solo the ogres for that intelligence circlet which is very useful, and switch between two pair of gloves (one for lockpicking, stealing etc, and the archery gloves you get at goblin camp). increase dexterity to 20 (with the hag and first feat) and take sharpshooter only at second feat. Finally, use a candle to fire your bow as early as possible in the game and before starting combat. it's free and it's more efficient than those fancy poisons that always fail with saving throws. after act1, just progressively increase your crit chance with gear available and the build just rocks. U also have that weapon you can buy at moonrise tower that can give you an extra buf on your bow! i sometimes replaced wyll with minthara as a paladin when wyll was short on spell slots so that i didn't have to rest a lot. I waited lvl5 to try the astral sword and I was VERY lucky so laezel (or karlach as disguised gith fighter) could deal nice damage. Minthara disguised as a gith and smiting with the astral sword is really something fun!!! and for wyll i used lightning charge staff and whatever works with lightning charges. no synergy between water and electricity or ice. I didn't feel the need of it in fact, the most difficult part for me was the dialogs (especially when you want wyll to speak and the game choose your charisma 8 tav instead...) i easily finished the game but without killing raphael and ansur. I'll do another run for that a final advice. don't underestimate dexterityon any of your chars: it gives armor, allow to fire efficiently some arrows when you're out of position with any char, and most importantly gives initiative which is very valuable to start correctly a combat.
@@benjammin5252 always carry some candles, u can put one on the ground lit it up without any action, then u can dip your bow (or whatever weapon u use) for an extra 1d4 fire dmg for 3 turns and a bonus action. As a gloomstalker, u dip your bow on the candle and engage just after so that u still have your bonus action to hide back. It maybe sometimes better to use oil of accuracy instead against high defense ennemies. Since my post, I made another run killing ansur very easily (globe of invulnerability at the right moment) and raphael. Finally I made some tests on getting the astral sword, and now I get it everytime: use a lvl 4 fighter with lucky feat, disarming strike with a +1 greatsword (or the paladin sword when u get karlach kill the guy, it's fun) , strength elixir, gloves of power, and most importantly oil of diminution on your sword. then with bless and invisibility potion the sword always drop. if furthermore u use mirror image scroll on the fighter, he.she survives and can pick up the sword.
Thanks, every build guide I watch is level 12 builds with all the gear that you need and that's great, but TBH I found the hardest part of the playthroughs to be the early game and transition into act 2. By act 3 the game was much easier on each of my playthroughs, this guide and video is great.
Ancients Paladin, Half-Orc GWM. Open hand monk Laezel using radiant armor, Karlack Barbarian - either thrower or the Tiger & Wolverine aspects. Last Abjuration Wizard Gale. We can basically all roll in. I have a Light Domain Shadowheart when she is important. I used Astarion as a bard early until we had enough levels for a monk to be effective. Just wrecking Honor mode. The radiating orb just gimps enemies. They cannot handle all 4 of us in the mix. At lvl 7. Using arcane Ward protects us a ton. I have 4 camp casters. Shart, Wyll, 2 hirelings. Every one has wards, Longstreet, protection from poison and a lvl 3 or now 4 aid. Death ward on at least one character. As we get higher in lvl we will all have it.
@hugeyakman4513 lvl 7 you can do radiant damage with your hands. Radiant armor makes the radiant nova with each hit. Monks hit several times using flurry of blows. Lots of radiating orbs that decrease the enemy to hit and for those around them.
Yes, BUT. big problem. If you are mainly playing a sorcerer, using items and scrolls uses the last class you multiclass into. So if you level INTO cleric, saving throws for any items and scrolls and such, becomes based on Wisdom, not charisma. It depends on what you value more because of this caveat. It's why generally if you are using charisma focused classes, then yeah sorcerer is generally preferable to start with. But if your main casting stat is conflicting because of 2 classes, it becomes a slight issue. So Sorcerer 1, Cleric 11 is usually fine if you want to cast with wisdom. But you trade some item utility by going for sorcerer first, then cleric 2, then sorcerer 10 because of how items work in multiclassing. So you want your main casting class stat to be last. And usually you don't take bard, warlock, or paladin levels. Well then you kinda need to have Sorcerer last. If you want action surge this is solved then by fighter levels first, then sorcerer last but that's the only way.
No going to lie, I thought there were only 3 builds in your other honor mode videos because you assumed one party member is always sitting next to withers at camp wait to receive a TPK
Very good and powerful builds, well explained, and well done on covering the early game, but they're not particularly synergistic together. I'm trying three themed parties: one that's mostly water & lightning (storm lord, druid, wizard, eldritch knight), one that specialises in rendering enemies prone and then punishing that (moon druid for owlbear, monk, fighter, ice wizard), and another with members who can all reposition enemies into and out of AOE effects (sword bardadin, warlock, fighter, land druid). But in each case I find myself sorely missing my radiant cleric, so maybe synergy is overrated!
My current honor mode party is: - Swordsbard/rogue/fighter (6/4/2) Face/utility (can transition to CC support by just changing hat to the arcane acuity one) - Barb/rogue/eldtritch fighter (6/3/3) throw them things - Cleric/wizard (6/6) light cleric + divination wizard gives great cc but also safeguards your party (can guarantee CC on big baddies) - Paladin/sorcerer (6/6 or 7/5) for when you need to really burst someone down leveled them roughly in the order they're shown here and worked pretty well for everything except level 3-4.
I actually run a 10/2 swords bard paladin. Rogue is nice for more expertise, the extra off-hand attack from the thief, and i guess the cunning action options. I prefer to have my paladins multiclassed with cha full casters, makes it so the paladin can do paladin stuff harder and longer. Plus, once you have helm of arcane acuity and band of mysitc scoundrel, using your bonus action for an off hand attack becomes a bit wasteful, when i could instead cast a 6th level hold person with it that's basically guaranteed to work. My cleric/sorc multi also takes 2 levels in evo wizard. Gives scribing for access to higher level spells and sculpt spells, making my evocation aoes safe for friends. Light cleric is also great, especially once you get all the radiating orb items. It's nice to be able to inflict -10 to hit on several enemies when they hit as hard as they do. Plus improved or normal warding flare. Generally, my last person is a rogue/ monk. They do tend to have strength potion addictions once they get tavern brawler. But with my party, they're the only one that needs them. Skill monkey for all thievery related actions, big damage, big movement, ability to knock enemies prone. Prone is very strong for honor mode especially, when bosses are prone, they cant use their legendary actions or any reaction in general. Advantage on attacks are good too. Stunning strikes is also a good tech option. Stun is phenomenal.
oath of vengeance better uses the bonus action and oath charge on casting vow on self for adv on all targets. in honor i never used radiant except when i had nothing else to do, so 1 time my bard had radiant dazing arrows.
I’m at 9th lvl in my 2nd try of HM. Tav is Gith Berserker 8/fighter 1, Shadow is all Light Cleric, Astarian is Gloom 5/assassin 3, and Gale is Lore 6/GOO 2/Wizard 1. And I’m fixin’ to take out the Inquisitor who ended my 1st HM run.
You can hit level 8 in Act 1 according to another youtuber. Requires specific actions, and choices though to min/max xp. I like a Devilfoil mask party.
This party has a disturbing lack of stealth archery. My Durge was a Duergar that started as a ranger, went to 5, picked up rogue, went to 4, and then topped off with 3 levels of champion. I took the sharpshooter feat and maxed my Dex. It was a menace throughout the entire game, and the specialty arrows were amazing. Besides, having Ranger for longstrider and speak with animals freed up some spells for my other party members. It could legitimately solo honor mode if you fight smart. All it really needs to support it is a Charisma character for those dialog checks. My suggestion for that is a Red Dragon Sorcerer with a 2 level dip into Warlock for Eldritch Blast and some invocations. A paladin could work too, but they run out of steam way too fast for my taste. I would suggest pairing it with Sword Bard to get an extra fighting style and more spell slots. Something like Vengeance Paladin 6, Sword Bard 4, and Warlock, too, so it has a decent ranged option.
agreed. that's what i explained earlier (above). same build as yours but as an elf for extra mouvement and not durge because u can hide as a bonus action at lvl 3 and don't really need the cape. Furthermore you don't even need to rest until you get action surge to recharge which is at lvl11. Same sorlock build for wyll with 3 rogue lvl in order to have two bonus actions (so 3 eldritch blast per turn as long as u have enough sorc points and this without any speed and/or bloodlust pots which are really nerfed in HM). using all chars (archer, sorlock, fighter) usually kills any high life boss very quickly letting shadowheart cleaning trash mobs with AoE scrolls.
@citoyenatterre4234 There are plenty of variations, but the point is that stealth and ranged attacks are vastly superior to just about every melee build. Honor Mode is a cakewalk if you plan accordingly
@@PsychedelicSlayer88 maybe you're right, I should try a run without any melee char and just shovel to get a guaranted sneak attack. As I said on the other post, i was lucky with astral sword on my run , so i used it. For me, most difficult part to "plan accordingly" was to gear specific items for saving throws and/or ability checks : phalar aluve, for example, is a nice plus in creche illek tadpole sequence. there are a lot of useful items for these tricky dice checks in honor mode
@@citoyenatterre4234 I would write a full honor mode guide, but I don't feel like getting all the feedback from people who don't know what they're talking about
@@PsychedelicSlayer88 actually, i've been rethinking about it: a melee char is useful in act3 after you buy the bhaalist armor. just equip it on your melee char, and your archer will do even more dmg. The problem is that at that point, the game is almost finished
I've finished Honour mode with: Open Hand Monk Pure fighter Light Cleric 2 Life Cleric / 10 Lore Bard It was pretty easy. Act 3 bosses was laughable. Killed Raphael in 2 turns, losing like 20 hp with all members combined
Are these written down anywhere? Trying to follow a vid and implement some of it in game is to difficult for me. Love the vids but a written version of the builds would be awesome
I recommend you ditch healers and make shadowheart DPS with backup heals, best example is oath of ancients paladin. I ran the 4 man DPS team in honor mode and have never needed a healer in combat
I beat Honour Mode with Gale as a 2 Fighter/10 Sorcerer. I am currently running a Duergar Fighter, Human Warlock, Shadowheart Gloomstalker, and Duergar Monk. IMO there is nothing better than free invisible at all times.
Thanks I'm returning to my honor mode save file. But I'm really not sure what exact builds I was following. Thankfully, respec is a thing. The only thing I'm not changing is probably my life cleric Shadowheart because she has most of the best items for it. Plus she saved my ass a couple of times.
Savage attacker bumps your average damage, GWM is the total. It is more effective typically. Saw some video where a guy mathed it out. A dual wield build with a bunch of effects might make it close.
Palladins a super strong to mid/end game, in the early game they are not very strong, specially in HM because they don't have many spell slots and to replenish it cost double. At early game a preger Barbarian, Rage and Reckless attack + GWM dish out an incredible amount of damage while being bery tank. At the end game while you get more levels and better equiment they are not super strong and it's when I respect to Palladin
Can't create it as a ritual. Using Metamagic, you can cast create water as a bonus action and then still cast a spell the same turn. Thats what I typically do.
Any alternative to the first electric weapon? I was coming up to Waukens rest to do it, got side tracked but i guess i got close enough for it to start the sequence of events and when i finally got back to the area everything was burned down and the lady was dead. Also could you do Sorcadin instead of the Pallock? Specifically Sorc for meta magic changing your lvl1 slots into 2s or 3s for more damage approaching act three?
0:38 This, This, This, This. What's the point of doing that. Showing how it works also is a great thing. We can all mix stuff and say it works and u destroy the elder brain. All builds end up in the same 8-10 items and u have 4 ppl. Ima try the thrower. Is that shadowheart healing enough for the whole game actually..?
You have some Tabs under your skillbar. One is Passives. There you can switch to not-deadly melee attacks (spells are still deadly, also damage from Environment or NPCs. And of cause pushing her off the bridge is deadly too!). Minthara gets unconscious but quest is done. Now she shows up in Act2, recruitable.
Would love a honor mode where each character (including main character) can die a maximum of 3 times and then become un-ressurectable. Items on the dead charcter would not be lootable and no hirelings lol.
@@andybodle7560 You definitely don't. You know we can just look at each other's channels, right? You don't need to be so passive aggressive - just say what you think is wrong with that I've said and let me respond to that... If you DON'T then I think it's pretty self explanatory that you have no idea what you're talking about.
What build are you running in honour mode?
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Main - fiend warlock (of course only for first 5-6 levels, after that pretty standard blaster sorlock), Karlach - open hand monk (final build is monk 7, fighter 2, thief rogue 3 - one feat is enough), Astarion - shadow monk(mostly for fun, but it can utilise some equipment that none other in the party cannot - monk 8, rogue 4, starting as rogue). And Shadowheart, light cleric.
"There's no point me showing you a level 12 build at the end of Act 3 for honour mode"
Thank you. Thank you, thank you. Soooo many builds are like "the weapon you use is Balduran's Giantslayer and Helldusk Armor" and I'm like by that time - I don't need to know what build to use lol. Thank you mate!
You’re not making it anyway right?
@@User12347ejdjlol exactly… failed 3 times now. 1 playthrough I was 26 hours in :(
@@SomeLad12 , I limp into act 2.
@@User12347ejdj finally got the gold dice today lol. Got super nervous in the last fight.
@@SomeLad12 congrats! I had to start over. I’ll keep trying
"dragonic sorcerer gives you ac"
>Shows character wearing medium armor, negating the AC bonus
Three builds for Honor Mode. One guy chills in camp eating cheese waiting to rez party at Withers .
I keep one Duergar invis and out of combat for this very reason. Only bring them in if the battle is obviously won.
Not very "honorable" get better.
@@BromoProductions Sure, it's a joke but I wouldn't judge people playing this way, it's still pretty hard cause those three gotta carry some hard fights. Probably less broken than farming the vendors for elixirs/crafting mats/resurrection scrolls etc.
I personally have honor mode games that are still in act 1 and have yet to play with just 3 three games in act
@@BromoProductions Honor, Schmoner, the games does not fight fair so I am just leveling the playing field.
Nothing is more honorable than victory, do what it takes
Right now for my honor mode run I'm doing a warlock/oathbreaker paladin hybrid just trying it out and seeing how I like it. My favorite setup for Paladin right now is Cleric/Paladin combo for the war domain extra actions stacking with extra attack for up to 3 divine smites in 1 turn. Very fun.
This is literally the same party I have been playing for the last 2 months. Minthara as smiter, karlach as thrower, shadowheart as stormlord and tav as face/dualer/lockpicker/stealth/utility... and I agree... this party is very strong.
Each playthrough I've tried to find three builds that synergize well so that I can have a 'core' party of 3 and leave the fourth slot to rotate between who has the most story relevance at the moment.
nice to give builds for mid game! so many videos talk about fully geared lvl12 builds that won't be available before the final combat.
imho, easiest way to beat honor mode is to have cleric hirelings buffing at camp. u basically have resistance to all very early in the game. for the outside, I used light cleric shadowheart to bless everybody, retreat, and throw heal potions + some utility spells at specific moments. shadowheart is easy to gear with gloves, amu, and ring very early in the game.
i used laezel as a pure fighter (or karlach as a fighter, i find it easier to play than barbarian), wyll as a sorclock for eldritch blast and for dialogs and my tav as a gloomstalker assassin which is so strong he can solo most of the time or at least kill half ennemies before the combat even start. just have to buy strength potions and get titanstring bow which you obtain very early in the game, solo the ogres for that intelligence circlet which is very useful, and switch between two pair of gloves (one for lockpicking, stealing etc, and the archery gloves you get at goblin camp). increase dexterity to 20 (with the hag and first feat) and take sharpshooter only at second feat. Finally, use a candle to fire your bow as early as possible in the game and before starting combat. it's free and it's more efficient than those fancy poisons that always fail with saving throws. after act1, just progressively increase your crit chance with gear available and the build just rocks. U also have that weapon you can buy at moonrise tower that can give you an extra buf on your bow!
i sometimes replaced wyll with minthara as a paladin when wyll was short on spell slots so that i didn't have to rest a lot.
I waited lvl5 to try the astral sword and I was VERY lucky so laezel (or karlach as disguised gith fighter) could deal nice damage. Minthara disguised as a gith and smiting with the astral sword is really something fun!!!
and for wyll i used lightning charge staff and whatever works with lightning charges. no synergy between water and electricity or ice. I didn't feel the need of it
in fact, the most difficult part for me was the dialogs (especially when you want wyll to speak and the game choose your charisma 8 tav instead...)
i easily finished the game but without killing raphael and ansur. I'll do another run for that
a final advice. don't underestimate dexterityon any of your chars: it gives armor, allow to fire efficiently some arrows when you're out of position with any char, and most importantly gives initiative which is very valuable to start correctly a combat.
What do you mean use the candle?
@@benjammin5252 always carry some candles, u can put one on the ground lit it up without any action, then u can dip your bow (or whatever weapon u use) for an extra 1d4 fire dmg for 3 turns and a bonus action. As a gloomstalker, u dip your bow on the candle and engage just after so that u still have your bonus action to hide back. It maybe sometimes better to use oil of accuracy instead against high defense ennemies.
Since my post, I made another run killing ansur very easily (globe of invulnerability at the right moment) and raphael. Finally I made some tests on getting the astral sword, and now I get it everytime: use a lvl 4 fighter with lucky feat, disarming strike with a +1 greatsword (or the paladin sword when u get karlach kill the guy, it's fun) , strength elixir, gloves of power, and most importantly oil of diminution on your sword. then with bless and invisibility potion the sword always drop. if furthermore u use mirror image scroll on the fighter, he.she survives and can pick up the sword.
Just beat my first Honour Mode run with this party. You're a legend man
Warlock extra attack stack with other extra attack work on you? (The minthara build)
@@auliadienovaal-idrus2336I doubt it. I’ve heard it said by other content creators it doesn’t stack on honour mode
@@mightymanofvalour8691 it does stack
@@BromoProductions recently patched?
Thanks, every build guide I watch is level 12 builds with all the gear that you need and that's great, but TBH I found the hardest part of the playthroughs to be the early game and transition into act 2. By act 3 the game was much easier on each of my playthroughs, this guide and video is great.
Ancients Paladin, Half-Orc GWM. Open hand monk Laezel using radiant armor, Karlack Barbarian - either thrower or the Tiger & Wolverine aspects. Last Abjuration Wizard Gale. We can basically all roll in. I have a Light Domain Shadowheart when she is important. I used Astarion as a bard early until we had enough levels for a monk to be effective.
Just wrecking Honor mode. The radiating orb just gimps enemies. They cannot handle all 4 of us in the mix. At lvl 7. Using arcane Ward protects us a ton.
I have 4 camp casters. Shart, Wyll, 2 hirelings. Every one has wards, Longstreet, protection from poison and a lvl 3 or now 4 aid. Death ward on at least one character. As we get higher in lvl we will all have it.
Why radiant armor on monk? Just curious?
@hugeyakman4513 lvl 7 you can do radiant damage with your hands. Radiant armor makes the radiant nova with each hit. Monks hit several times using flurry of blows. Lots of radiating orbs that decrease the enemy to hit and for those around them.
For cleric/sorceror always best to take sorceror first for CON saving throws.
Yes, BUT. big problem. If you are mainly playing a sorcerer, using items and scrolls uses the last class you multiclass into. So if you level INTO cleric, saving throws for any items and scrolls and such, becomes based on Wisdom, not charisma.
It depends on what you value more because of this caveat. It's why generally if you are using charisma focused classes, then yeah sorcerer is generally preferable to start with. But if your main casting stat is conflicting because of 2 classes, it becomes a slight issue. So Sorcerer 1, Cleric 11 is usually fine if you want to cast with wisdom. But you trade some item utility by going for sorcerer first, then cleric 2, then sorcerer 10 because of how items work in multiclassing.
So you want your main casting class stat to be last. And usually you don't take bard, warlock, or paladin levels. Well then you kinda need to have Sorcerer last. If you want action surge this is solved then by fighter levels first, then sorcerer last but that's the only way.
Warlock extra attack doesn’t stack with other extra attacks in honor mode which sucks. The full paladin is probably better
Sorcadin or Bardadin are good choices
2 paladin + 10 sword bard is by far the best option imo
2 paladin, 5 warlock, 5 bard worked far better than I thought it would!
6 pala for aura/ 6 bard for spel slots/utility, as after pala 6 you dont get extra worth
@@milordas Depends on paladin subclass. Ancients and Oathbreaker paladin's level 7 aura is really good imo depending on your comp.
Finally someone who understands that "OMG OP TOO STRONG BUILD" doesn't matter if you only show act 3 gear and items.
No going to lie, I thought there were only 3 builds in your other honor mode videos because you assumed one party member is always sitting next to withers at camp wait to receive a TPK
I thought that too that’s what I do
Very good and powerful builds, well explained, and well done on covering the early game, but they're not particularly synergistic together. I'm trying three themed parties: one that's mostly water & lightning (storm lord, druid, wizard, eldritch knight), one that specialises in rendering enemies prone and then punishing that (moon druid for owlbear, monk, fighter, ice wizard), and another with members who can all reposition enemies into and out of AOE effects (sword bardadin, warlock, fighter, land druid).
But in each case I find myself sorely missing my radiant cleric, so maybe synergy is overrated!
My current honor mode party is:
- Swordsbard/rogue/fighter (6/4/2) Face/utility (can transition to CC support by just changing hat to the arcane acuity one)
- Barb/rogue/eldtritch fighter (6/3/3) throw them things
- Cleric/wizard (6/6) light cleric + divination wizard gives great cc but also safeguards your party (can guarantee CC on big baddies)
- Paladin/sorcerer (6/6 or 7/5) for when you need to really burst someone down
leveled them roughly in the order they're shown here and worked pretty well for everything except level 3-4.
I see you named you Tav Shallan. I see you Stormlight fan
You could respec Karlach into paladin. Since she get some smites from her ancestry adding to the amount of smites available
A good focus on the early and a little mid helps a lot to reach act 3 in honor mode 👍
I actually run a 10/2 swords bard paladin. Rogue is nice for more expertise, the extra off-hand attack from the thief, and i guess the cunning action options. I prefer to have my paladins multiclassed with cha full casters, makes it so the paladin can do paladin stuff harder and longer. Plus, once you have helm of arcane acuity and band of mysitc scoundrel, using your bonus action for an off hand attack becomes a bit wasteful, when i could instead cast a 6th level hold person with it that's basically guaranteed to work.
My cleric/sorc multi also takes 2 levels in evo wizard. Gives scribing for access to higher level spells and sculpt spells, making my evocation aoes safe for friends.
Light cleric is also great, especially once you get all the radiating orb items. It's nice to be able to inflict -10 to hit on several enemies when they hit as hard as they do. Plus improved or normal warding flare.
Generally, my last person is a rogue/ monk. They do tend to have strength potion addictions once they get tavern brawler. But with my party, they're the only one that needs them. Skill monkey for all thievery related actions, big damage, big movement, ability to knock enemies prone. Prone is very strong for honor mode especially, when bosses are prone, they cant use their legendary actions or any reaction in general. Advantage on attacks are good too. Stunning strikes is also a good tech option. Stun is phenomenal.
oath of vengeance better uses the bonus action and oath charge on casting vow on self for adv on all targets. in honor i never used radiant except when i had nothing else to do, so 1 time my bard had radiant dazing arrows.
I’m at 9th lvl in my 2nd try of HM. Tav is Gith Berserker 8/fighter 1, Shadow is all Light Cleric, Astarian is Gloom 5/assassin 3, and Gale is Lore 6/GOO 2/Wizard 1. And I’m fixin’ to take out the Inquisitor who ended my 1st HM run.
You can just keep your Barbarian/Rogue and hire a hierling eldritch knight to bind the lightning jabber at camp every day
How does that work? Does bound weapon let anyone throw it?
I beat Honor Mode with 2 sorcerer + 1 Paladin / Sorcerer + 1 Fighter. On Act 2 I had also a cleric. I used that Water + Lightning thing.
You can hit level 8 in Act 1 according to another youtuber. Requires specific actions, and choices though to min/max xp. I like a Devilfoil mask party.
This party has a disturbing lack of stealth archery.
My Durge was a Duergar that started as a ranger, went to 5, picked up rogue, went to 4, and then topped off with 3 levels of champion. I took the sharpshooter feat and maxed my Dex. It was a menace throughout the entire game, and the specialty arrows were amazing. Besides, having Ranger for longstrider and speak with animals freed up some spells for my other party members. It could legitimately solo honor mode if you fight smart.
All it really needs to support it is a Charisma character for those dialog checks. My suggestion for that is a Red Dragon Sorcerer with a 2 level dip into Warlock for Eldritch Blast and some invocations. A paladin could work too, but they run out of steam way too fast for my taste. I would suggest pairing it with Sword Bard to get an extra fighting style and more spell slots. Something like Vengeance Paladin 6, Sword Bard 4, and Warlock, too, so it has a decent ranged option.
agreed. that's what i explained earlier (above). same build as yours but as an elf for extra mouvement and not durge because u can hide as a bonus action at lvl 3 and don't really need the cape. Furthermore you don't even need to rest until you get action surge to recharge which is at lvl11. Same sorlock build for wyll with 3 rogue lvl in order to have two bonus actions (so 3 eldritch blast per turn as long as u have enough sorc points and this without any speed and/or bloodlust pots which are really nerfed in HM). using all chars (archer, sorlock, fighter) usually kills any high life boss very quickly letting shadowheart cleaning trash mobs with AoE scrolls.
@citoyenatterre4234 There are plenty of variations, but the point is that stealth and ranged attacks are vastly superior to just about every melee build.
Honor Mode is a cakewalk if you plan accordingly
@@PsychedelicSlayer88 maybe you're right, I should try a run without any melee char and just shovel to get a guaranted sneak attack. As I said on the other post, i was lucky with astral sword on my run , so i used it.
For me, most difficult part to "plan accordingly" was to gear specific items for saving throws and/or ability checks : phalar aluve, for example, is a nice plus in creche illek tadpole sequence. there are a lot of useful items for these tricky dice checks in honor mode
@@citoyenatterre4234 I would write a full honor mode guide, but I don't feel like getting all the feedback from people who don't know what they're talking about
@@PsychedelicSlayer88 actually, i've been rethinking about it: a melee char is useful in act3 after you buy the bhaalist armor. just equip it on your melee char, and your archer will do even more dmg. The problem is that at that point, the game is almost finished
I've finished Honour mode with:
Open Hand Monk
Pure fighter
Light Cleric
2 Life Cleric / 10 Lore Bard
It was pretty easy. Act 3 bosses was laughable. Killed Raphael in 2 turns, losing like 20 hp with all members combined
Are these written down anywhere? Trying to follow a vid and implement some of it in game is to difficult for me. Love the vids but a written version of the builds would be awesome
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For my 2nd playthrough/honor mode I’m running a lore bard, Karlach as an open hand monk, lae as a pure fighter and then shadow heart as our healer
I recommend you ditch healers and make shadowheart DPS with backup heals, best example is oath of ancients paladin. I ran the 4 man DPS team in honor mode and have never needed a healer in combat
I beat Honour Mode with Gale as a 2 Fighter/10 Sorcerer. I am currently running a Duergar Fighter, Human Warlock, Shadowheart Gloomstalker, and Duergar Monk. IMO there is nothing better than free invisible at all times.
Jayman did you use a hireling for the second Duergar, or a Mod?
@@randycaputo3949 My Tav is a Duergar and I hired another one. I don't use mods.
Thanks I'm returning to my honor mode save file. But I'm really not sure what exact builds I was following. Thankfully, respec is a thing. The only thing I'm not changing is probably my life cleric Shadowheart because she has most of the best items for it. Plus she saved my ass a couple of times.
Hmm, why not use the Savage Attacker feat for the paladin? Since you're rolling more dice, why not reroll them and take the highest number?
Savage attacker bumps your average damage, GWM is the total. It is more effective typically. Saw some video where a guy mathed it out. A dual wield build with a bunch of effects might make it close.
Palladins a super strong to mid/end game, in the early game they are not very strong, specially in HM because they don't have many spell slots and to replenish it cost double. At early game a preger Barbarian, Rage and Reckless attack + GWM dish out an incredible amount of damage while being bery tank. At the end game while you get more levels and better equiment they are not super strong and it's when I respect to Palladin
i just realize that ur main character name is shallan, is that for Shallan Davar from stormlight archive?
How do you create water as a ritual? Wiki says you can, but I have yet to figure it out.
I’m not sure how you create water as a ritual. I know there is a necklace in the game that you can get pretty early on that lets you cast it for free.
Can't create it as a ritual. Using Metamagic, you can cast create water as a bonus action and then still cast a spell the same turn. Thats what I typically do.
Great video
Great comment!
Any alternative to the first electric weapon? I was coming up to Waukens rest to do it, got side tracked but i guess i got close enough for it to start the sequence of events and when i finally got back to the area everything was burned down and the lady was dead. Also could you do Sorcadin instead of the Pallock? Specifically Sorc for meta magic changing your lvl1 slots into 2s or 3s for more damage approaching act three?
well actually leaving 1 party member at camp will guarentee that you can escape any encounter.
I don't know why but i love his Voice
There are plenty more videos on the channel with that voice ;)
0:38 This, This, This, This. What's the point of doing that. Showing how it works also is a great thing. We can all mix stuff and say it works and u destroy the elder brain.
All builds end up in the same 8-10 items and u have 4 ppl.
Ima try the thrower. Is that shadowheart healing enough for the whole game actually..?
How about a party with Miss K included?
how u get the globlin leader dark lady in your party? I thought i was supposed to kil her or something like that
You have some Tabs under your skillbar. One is Passives. There you can switch to not-deadly melee attacks (spells are still deadly, also damage from Environment or NPCs. And of cause pushing her off the bridge is deadly too!). Minthara gets unconscious but quest is done. Now she shows up in Act2, recruitable.
Finally YTber with brain that dont show 12lvl eng game build for honour mode.
6:20 hire a guy and have him bind weapons. Trade it to your thrower.
why DID you make only 3 build videos 😂?
I dont know :(
Would love a honor mode where each character (including main character) can die a maximum of 3 times and then become un-ressurectable. Items on the dead charcter would not be lootable and no hirelings lol.
it's especially, not ecspecially
Talk low talk slow and dont say too much john wayne build😅
Feels a little disingenuous to make all these builds a non honor mode play through and show that footage.
Making videos involves lots of reloading.
Do you see the problem?
@@andybodle7560 I mean… just beat the game in honor mode with these builds in a party and then show the footage of that?
You're a streamer yourself, I take it, and know exactly what is involved in making and editing these things? @@theangriestcrusader
@@andybodle7560 You definitely don't. You know we can just look at each other's channels, right? You don't need to be so passive aggressive - just say what you think is wrong with that I've said and let me respond to that... If you DON'T then I think it's pretty self explanatory that you have no idea what you're talking about.
Do you want the tips and advice or not? Lol 😅
"lean heavily in to dexterity with a little less charisma" --- 17 str/13dex lol
When does the tutorial end? I'm at the dragon and I don't have the fire sword yet and I turned over every pebble.
u get it in the tutorial the big demon bloke is carrying u just cast drop weapon with shadowheart and he will drop it then u pick it up n run