I literally just finished doing this exact same exercise with a friend. Sliders from scratch while purchasing all required tools. My cost was around $1500 as well, and now I can fab even more stuff!!
Very torn on welding with gas vs without gas. Without gas it such a pain to get refills where I live, I basically have to take time off work or ship my tanks a few states away to refill them, so I moved to flux core wire. The more you use this stuff, the better! I learned on my front bumper and soon I'll be doing some sliders and skids!
good video, I find a lot more pride in my vehicles when I do the fab work, even if the end cost was more, you know how it was built and can be proud you built it. looks like you guys had fun doing the work and that is priceless.
Great job! Tools are make getting into fabrication so difficult. Nice to see you guys price everything along with nicer options. I built lots of my first projects with an affordable bender but sure am glad to have a jd2 now.
I did this with my brother. We built some awesome rock sliders for his xterra, o wish I would have made the leap before buying my rock sliders. Though I do love my white knuckle off roads. I also built coastal rear bumper, but skipped their expensive swing out kit and built my own for like $200.
Also, depending on the state the company you buy from and you're in, might have to factor in taxes as well. I'd say between tax and shipping they easily cleared it.
Cutting tube and profiling the ends - Buy a hacksaw and a box of quality files, teach yourself to be skilled with hand tools and save money in the process
Built not bought baby! A lot of people are saying you didn’t factor in labor. I’d argue that even though there is an opportunity cost in the time it takes to do this all yourself, you can’t put a price on the value of knowing your rig inside and out because you did all the work yourself. Especially if you’re going to be taking it to the middle of nowhere with no one but yourself and your buddies to rely on to get home.
If you look at building everything: front bumper. rear bumper, skid plates for: gas tank, rear dif., front dif. transfer case, trans. pan, oil pan and sliders you should safe money? Plus you should be able to safe on the materials buying in larger lots.
You could lower the cost even more with flux core welding, to avoid the gas cylinder and gas regulator. With stick welding, the rods and welders are even cheaper and can certainly do the job.
Can you demonstrate welding in the field? Friend of mine had an under hood welder ( not homemade but aftermarket) and had to use it. I have seen other makeshift welders. Like to learn more. Thanks
We actually were just talking about ordering one of those... they work best with two batteries but can get buy for a trail fix with 1.... that is a good idea for a video.
5 thousandths of an inch is thicker than a sheet of paper. Paper is typically is 0.004 in thick with thinner stuff comping in at about 0.003 in. As a former machinist that used paper to set tool offsets, I'm very familiar with its thickness.
@@OutdoorAuto I just grabbed a peace of paper from my printer and measured it at 0.004 in flat. Google is wrong. Card stock is card stock, not what anyone thinks of as paper.
I worked in aerospace as a machinist making parts that had to be within 0.0005 in of total tolerance. I left machining and got a degree in mechanical engineering.
@@zephgage3694 I assume you're trying to mock me. When things required tighter tolerances than that, they went to grind and/or lap. The only reason I mentioned the tolerance is to show that I know how to measure things, not engage in a pissing contest with other machinists. I'm well aware there are areas of machining that hold tighter tolerance.
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What would the cost have been if you used 2x6 square tubing instead of round and flat plate?
Good fun - you forgot to factor in your time and overheads and that blows you out the park…. Obviously as you amortise equipment things look better. Good experiment though 👍
I literally just finished doing this exact same exercise with a friend. Sliders from scratch while purchasing all required tools. My cost was around $1500 as well, and now I can fab even more stuff!!
Very torn on welding with gas vs without gas. Without gas it such a pain to get refills where I live, I basically have to take time off work or ship my tanks a few states away to refill them, so I moved to flux core wire. The more you use this stuff, the better! I learned on my front bumper and soon I'll be doing some sliders and skids!
I luck out… the farm is next to a big industrial area and I have lots of gas options
The tools, the knowhow and experience make it so worth it. Thanks for taking time doing this and filming the whole process to share with us.
I agree… I wish I had gotten into fab when I was a kid… such a cool skill
That was a really great video guys! Thanks for actually being hobest and adding in everything needed and not "cheating"!
The funny thing is I Really thought we were going to make it... oh well...
good video, I find a lot more pride in my vehicles when I do the fab work, even if the end cost was more, you know how it was built and can be proud you built it. looks like you guys had fun doing the work and that is priceless.
Great job! Tools are make getting into fabrication so difficult. Nice to see you guys price everything along with nicer options. I built lots of my first projects with an affordable bender but sure am glad to have a jd2 now.
I have heard good things about the JD2… so far I have really liked the Swag a lot
Th real sliders are the friends we make along the way.
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Good stuff! I do have most of these tools available to me (not all mine). I have been debating on trying to build mine. I think I just might now.
I did this with my brother. We built some awesome rock sliders for his xterra, o wish I would have made the leap before buying my rock sliders. Though I do love my white knuckle off roads. I also built coastal rear bumper, but skipped their expensive swing out kit and built my own for like $200.
Rock sliders are the perfect excuse to try out fabrication for sure... Although WHite knuckle slidders are pretty nice.
Did you include the shipping cost of those rock sliders? If not you came in under budget 👌🏾
Also, depending on the state the company you buy from and you're in, might have to factor in taxes as well. I'd say between tax and shipping they easily cleared it.
Cutting tube and profiling the ends - Buy a hacksaw and a box of quality files, teach yourself to be skilled with hand tools and save money in the process
Built not bought baby! A lot of people are saying you didn’t factor in labor. I’d argue that even though there is an opportunity cost in the time it takes to do this all yourself, you can’t put a price on the value of knowing your rig inside and out because you did all the work yourself. Especially if you’re going to be taking it to the middle of nowhere with no one but yourself and your buddies to rely on to get home.
If doing this is fun for you and you do it in spare time, there is no opportunity cost.
If you look at building everything: front bumper. rear bumper, skid plates for: gas tank, rear dif., front dif. transfer case, trans. pan, oil pan and sliders you should safe money? Plus you should be able to safe on the materials buying in larger lots.
Yeah... the more you use the tools the more you save because you already erased the sunk cost just with the sliders.
great video
LOL thanks
You could lower the cost even more with flux core welding, to avoid the gas cylinder and gas regulator. With stick welding, the rods and welders are even cheaper and can certainly do the job.
Absolutely true… we tried picking the easiest stuff for a beginner.
Flux core is probably easier for a beginner.
Can you demonstrate welding in the field?
Friend of mine had an under hood welder ( not homemade but aftermarket) and had to use it.
I have seen other makeshift welders. Like to learn more.
Thanks
We actually were just talking about ordering one of those... they work best with two batteries but can get buy for a trail fix with 1.... that is a good idea for a video.
But... you can make 3 to 5 sets of those rock sliders and sell them on the marketplace for a lower price and you'll get your money back.
💯 absolutely true.
Should show how/where welded to the frame.
We grinded off the paint for a good weld, weld the pipe straight to the frame add a gusset with the the 1/8th in flat
5 thousandths of an inch is thicker than a sheet of paper. Paper is typically is 0.004 in thick with thinner stuff comping in at about 0.003 in. As a former machinist that used paper to set tool offsets, I'm very familiar with its thickness.
Google doesn’t agree with you… BTW card stock is what the “thicker” stuff is call and it’s .010
@@OutdoorAuto I just grabbed a peace of paper from my printer and measured it at 0.004 in flat. Google is wrong. Card stock is card stock, not what anyone thinks of as paper.
I worked in aerospace as a machinist making parts that had to be within 0.0005 in of total tolerance. I left machining and got a degree in mechanical engineering.
@@TeknoMage13 dang you got 5 tenths tolerance must be nice, light work baby
@@zephgage3694 I assume you're trying to mock me. When things required tighter tolerances than that, they went to grind and/or lap. The only reason I mentioned the tolerance is to show that I know how to measure things, not engage in a pissing contest with other machinists. I'm well aware there are areas of machining that hold tighter tolerance.
What would the cost have been if you used 2x6 square tubing instead of round and flat plate?
I wouldn’t build sliders out of 2x6… that would add way too much weight.
I really like the show but holy hell Nate sounds identical to Kermit the Frog. It came on my TV and I swear I thought it was Kermit.
Dude, it’s true… I have always hated my voice on a microphone…
@ lol it’s all good. btw Great show bud.
How many hours of labor though?
Good fun - you forgot to factor in your time and overheads and that blows you out the park…. Obviously as you amortise equipment things look better. Good experiment though 👍
Thanks for watching 🙏
But you can amortize the cost of the tools across other jobs and things you make.
Each of your videos is a little success story. Thank you for your contribution to the RUclips community!🧐😅💐
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They should include the price of the shop building for people tha live in apartments 😢
Just make a second (and maybe third) set and get your equipment money back. Easy pissy.