Choosing a Helmet
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- Опубликовано: 14 ноя 2019
- How to choose a helmet and some ideas on what you may need.
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I really enjoyed your video ! I am a a old gunfighter, Two tours Viet Nam One in the Infantry and One as A Huey door gunner where I had my first experience with Helmet & chest body armor , never had a hit in my heads, Ballistic Helmet but took a machine-gun bullet in the middle of my late 1960's era chest armor. In those days The armor that Huey crews ran was so heavy that it two guys to put it on ,the wearer stuck both arms straight out while his buddy moved the armor flush with the wearer and wrapped two huge velcro ,U shaped strapped straps around the back while the wearer held the nylon covered plate in place. The armor was some sort of fiberglass and who now's what composite that every single crewman was thrilled to have despite the weight !! I just ordered a chest rig and it and the 6x8 spall coated side plates are about the same weight as my late 1960's chest only rig. I am leaning toward the HHV helmet that you just covered ! Have a Blessed Day !
I bought a bump at first and then realized if I’m wearing night vision and have a rifle in my hands I need a ballistic helmet lol.
I dont think a lot of them will stop a rifle round. Idk if any of them will.
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ECH will
@@BobBob-il2ku no helmet will stop any common threat rifle round. A round can bounce off a helmet if it’s not direct. They’re mostly for spall and frag.
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m.ruclips.net/video/LH9ddMb83-U/видео.html
Video of ECH stopping rifle rounds ^
@@BobBob-il2ku if you get shot in the head it doesn’t matter if the helmet stops the bullet, you’re still getting shot in the head. Ballistic helmets were developed to stop shrapnel from explosions not bullets
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Great video to reference
I've had 7's and 14's for yrs (I live on a small farm). Your vids made me pull the trigger ( pun intended) on DTNVS . Thanks for all the info and your perspective on gear. It has helped tremendously . I hope to hit up a class one day in the near future. Good work.
Glad I could help man.
really helpful ty!
Which one would u recommend the most the team wendy sl or the ops core sf?
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I went poverty spec and got a PASGT and a nightcap. One for a fun night romping through the woods, one for if ship pops off and I need actual protection.
As far as the ear pro issue goes on the bump, if you cannot afford the team Wendy ballistic, would you recommend the carbon helmet from TW to mount a pair of Peltors without running into the problem of them popping off? Thanks for the great info
Potentially. I haven't used ear pro on a carbon
From my limited experience I would recommend the AMP arms with AXL adapters for either Peltor Comtacs, Sordins, or they even have Howard Leight versions; super solid and comfortable. You would also need either Unity or TW adapter plates. I tried both adapter plates and the TW ones broke right away so would recommend the Unity ones. You can do this on a regular LTP to save money. So buy list would be 1) Opscore AMP helmet arms (hardest to source) 2) AXL RAC Links for your preferred earpro 3) Unity Tactical “Platform Adapter” 4) TW helmet of your choice.
Installation of the AXL rac link is the hardest part of this setup. Easier on Peltors and HLeights I think and hardest on Sordins (though I ended up using Sordins anyway cause that’s what I like/had already).
So why do you have comtacs on your go to team wendy helmet while the more expensive AMP headset is on your SF?
I have amps on both now.
So I’m just getting into nods. At the range I’m currently just wearing a ball cap and sordins. I have no need (or want) for a ballistic helmet. Don’t want to have to buy and then carry around a bump a second set of ear pro on it. It more about the bulk of extra stuff to pack and carry. Any advice?
No matter the helmet you can setup the pads to wear your sordins under your helmet.
@@KineticConsulting it’s so obvious that my dumbass never though of it. Thanks.
idkw hat youre doing wrong, but my ear pro/comms DO NOT ever pop off because of flex lmfaoo and i have s FMA FCS amps not even real actual ops core.
yeah im with you on this one. the TW 2.0 rails do flex a bit but not enough to pop off.
Real talk
Anyone know what kind of helmet light was on the Thyrm mount?
Looks like a princton tech
I don’t think you gave bumps enough credit. I run the TW Exfil bump, I have it setup the same way yours is. You can throw it around all day, I’ve never had earpro pop off or have experienced “flex”. I can speak for the TW anyways… it’s a SUPER SOLID platform, you get an integrated metal Wilcox mount for your NV, super quality construction etc.
Ballistic will not stop direct impact. Not to say it doesn’t serve a purpose. But if you’re simply wanting to run nods and mount all your stuff… you can definitely do it with a bump. Other than that, great vid!
Which manufacturer is the mini light attached to the ops core? The one who clicks
Thyrm
@@KineticConsulting thank u so much!🤣
I'm having to piece a helmet/NVG together cuz the stuff is so expensive. Started off with ear pro since I can use that standalone every time I shoot lol. As a side note, thoughts on The Mandalorian? I'm excited but still reserving joy since it's only one episode so far.
Speaking of helmet selection, what purpose or benefits does one obtain when buying a carbon helmet over a polymer helmet?
There is a drastic price difference and for those amounts I'd think one would be better off saving a little more for a ballistic helmet at that point.
The difference is that you can have a real shroud bolted on the carbon vs the molded/plastic shrouds that crack over time on the bump helmets
@@KineticConsulting does that difference justify the price in your opinion and to your point in your video, do carbon helmets also have the issue with bending when mounting ear pro?
@@brookebear18B they are a lot better than a bump but for the price you might as well get a ballistic helmet unless you're not in need of one. Flexing of the helmet is much less due to it being carbon fiber
@@KineticConsulting thanks, Mocha. I really appreciate the responses. I'm sure there were others with similar questions but afraid to ask. If you know someone has the knowledge you're looking for, why not ask? Great video and keep up the good work, bro.
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Do these ballistic helmets even stop rifle rounds? I heard they don't from two people?
Most don’t
There’s is The
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SLAP plate
HHV up armor plate
Ar500 Militia upgrade coming soon.
@@BobBob-il2ku AR500 helmet? Holy shit that sounds heavy. Lol.
Most are level IIIA which aren't rated to stop rifle rounds at point blank range. However, plenty of these helmets have stopped rifle rounds in combat due to distance and or barriers causing the rounds to decrease in velocity. Team Wendy and Ops Core are top of the line. Team Wendy is more comfortable with slightly less customizable rails while Ops Core is slightly less comfortable with slightly more customizable rails. Pick your poison.
Depends on the range and the round but there’s a decent chance it’ll deflect a round if it hits at a glancing angle or is fired from a long range. Still might bash your skull pretty bad.
Have you ever messed with an MTEK flux?
Yep, not bad
Is that Velcro or one of the ops core amp skins that you have on the amps that are of the tan sf helmet?
They are the skins from opscore
Was that a class you ran at the end flying in on a chopper bro?Shit thats badass
Nope. Not a class
@@KineticConsulting still coming to one of yours as soon as i get all the gun stuff added,good 2 go besides that ✌️
Shouldn’t snowboard in a bump helmet they aren’t rated for those kinds of impacts
An argument could be made that real work can include things that might not include being shot at. Recce stuff for example? Ur the pro here.
Edit: Also there are nice carbon fiber bump helmets.
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Are you and Aaron Cowan still working together?
Yes, we are
solid video, any thoughts on specific brands of helmets? Ive heard(and this could just be a rumor) that the SOF community tends to run team wendys.
SOCOM issues the Ops Core Fast
Like in the video I talked about the two Brands I use. I don't hear from them due to their professionally-made by reputable companies
@@SIERRAFOXTROT19 yeah but having worked with them a few times most of them invested heavily in their own gear. I dont like issued gear, I prefer to own my stuff.
nice username btw
@@joefitzgerald2762 coming from a guy in SOF, the only time I see a guy not rocking an issued FAST helmet is because they bought a bump helmet to use when they don't need ballistic and want a lighter helmet.
No love for the $150 MICH
What’s wrong with the $50 bump helmets on Amazon? Seems like a plastic hat is a plastic hat. How much better can the $400 ones be? There’s a lancer tactical bump helmet for air soft and I’m not noting anything much different on it from the team Wendy ones.
Yeah, I dont get it neither. How many people even get chances to see home invasion? Let alone armed invasion. If you do, that means you need to move to a better area, and you definitely cannot afford 1k helmet. And there wont be any civil war.
@@anx2617 ...I don’t necessarily think there will be a civil war according to the basic definitions...however with the unrest happening if I lived in any of the major cities or counties that have experienced riots I probably would want all the gear I could possibly get. I probably will never use my rifle to defend my life (I hope) but I still spec’d it out and put a lot of money and time into it...it’s foolish to not be prepared.
Even if it's a bump helmet they're supposed to be rated for impacts. That way you know they will actually protect your head from blunt trauma, not break in regular use etc. Sure if you only want a way to mount your nods they're fine, except you'll need to replace the shroud for a real one. Even then the shroud could fall off. But if you're dropping thousands for NV you might as well get a quality helmet
The shroud being made correctly
Also the suspension and pads are way better in a team Wendy much more secure and less wobbly
Lol. Not trying to be a dick but why would you trust a 50$ Chinese made helmet as your main mounting platform in which you are hanging thousands of dollars of equipment. ( wilcox g24 Mount=475$, 3 hole shroud with lanyard= 130$, cheapest PVS 14 at least 3k)
Team Wendy uses wilcox shrouds, Chinese helmets use out of spec copies that will have lots of play/slop.
It’s not for everyone, I get that, but the second that helmet fails and you drop your tubes on the ground, a good, well made bump helmet will look cheap in comparison.
what about helmet brands?
What about them?
@@KineticConsulting well from what ive seen most videos almost always talk about bump vs ballistic but i never see anything about comparing brands like comparing team wendy vs ops core or hhv or something of that nature
@@bigval46 the problem with comparing is that they are all have similar features. Other than shooting them there isn't a lot to compare, especially between opscore and TW. It would all be opinion based.
So far I've been using an airsoft copy of a maritime. I have upgraded the pads to the 4D and it's night and day difference. The next thing i will likely upgrade is the suspension. Still waiting on my Opscore SF ordered in July. First it was October delivery, then November, now mid December.
I was quite surprised by the accuracy of the shroud on the knock off there's zero wiggle with my Wilcox G24. Only gripe now with it is the suspension system sucks. But hey for 60 bucks it served the purpose of getting me outside with a similar setup I'm waiting for and getting time on the new equipment.
Setup:
MSA Sordin with single lead
Unity SARA and mounts
Unity Remora on both sides
Surefire M300V
MPLS
Hel-star 6
Opscore Counter weight
Wilcox G24
BNVD with L3 WP tubes (2500fom) and remote battery pack.
Thanks for the content.
I’m rocking a beanie with a shroud
Very high speed low drag of you
Stick to reputable brands. Only buy ballistic if you actually need the protection 🤙🏻
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I'm gonna say what I think. The (general) reason to get a bump is purely to have a method of running night vision at lesser cost and greater comfort than a direct headmount or a soft headmount. Because those fucking suck. The other benefit of a bump helmet is that it provides blunt impact protection. You might choose it over a ballistic helmet if you have a neck injury or something (that's what garand thumb said in one of his videos anyways)
For ballistic helmets, you could buy a $400 ACH and leave it bare if your concern is actual bullets and not much else. Maybe you just expect to shoot and get shot at in it, and you throw on some earpro. of course you can also throw on the NOD, headlamps and other gear, though you should probably keep as much as you can on the body. Also Ballistic helmets you should get ready to be raped in the wallet because one that isn't going to backface deform your skull in is either that $400 ACH that sucks to wear or your wallet's gonna have to grab its ankles.
Pasgt helmet is the best helmet ever!
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I paid like $60 for the basic wilcox 3 hole shroud on my nightcap. Just for everyone's info.
eBay $40 for norotos 3 hole shrouds surplus
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That outro was WAY too loud. It was like I was suddenly listening to ear rape.
If you get shot in the head with a ballistic helmet youre more than likely done amyway xD im a strong advocate for CF bump helmets.
Guess you have a crystal ball and can tell the future. From my experience seeing dudes take rounds to the helmet, it did a fantastic job compared to a bare head
@@KineticConsulting its not crystal its cubic zerconia er whatever? Ill post a vid. But yeah, im taking about direct shots to a level IIIA helmet. Sure, rounds can skip or be detracted from theur flight patch more effectively with a balistic helmet, but thats far less likely than getting shot in the head at all i would think. Also have to think about those that have survived shots to the helmet, would the conditions have changed at all if the helmet were a different material i.e full penetration that wouldnt intersect the cranium, etc.
@@xXReichstadXx still speculation of what less/more likely man. You buy what you want. That's ok. There isn't anything wrong with that.
That's kind of my thought process. If I were shot in the head with a balistics helmet, do I want to survive anyway or would I be a vegetable from there after.
Bump vs Ballistic (Opscore/TW) = HHV!
Video is great! Music not so much. Thanks for the info!
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Why so many helmets?? One good helmet should be enough.
Anyway: subbed
Different helmets for different applications. He said so in the beginning of the video.
Also, you put wear on all the velcro when you rip it up and put shit back on all the time.
There are multiple reasons
I can’t tell if those were airsoft guns or suppressed guns 😂😂
Dudes with 300blk make it nice and quiet
the one you're issued how bout that
@DomesticPenguin you cared enough to respond 🤡
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@DomesticPenguin shit why didn’t I think about that. You’re practically a seal
@DomesticPenguin respec
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