How Surface Grinding Works - Part 1?

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  • Опубликовано: 3 авг 2018
  • Bonus footage! Title says it all, though this is specifically about grinding wheel wear.
    FYI, my go-to general purpose wheel is a Norton 5SG.
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  • @HexenzirkelZuluhed
    @HexenzirkelZuluhed 6 лет назад +715

    I don't get it... you are INTENTIONALLY making those videos SHORTER?? Have you met your audience?

    • @udowillkomm1173
      @udowillkomm1173 6 лет назад +16

      Now some of us have a small attention span...ADHD....maybe, the Pres is looking also...

    • @kengamble8595
      @kengamble8595 6 лет назад +13

      Udo Willkomm
      Not me........ SQUIRREL !! 😆

    • @ThisIsAVeryBadIdea
      @ThisIsAVeryBadIdea 6 лет назад +21

      Methinks a mix is good. Depends on the subject or question.
      Video length depending on content I think is a hallmark of actually understanding how to present something.
      ...I think it really means it takes as long as it takes. If he gets away with only a short video, he's fine. If it takes a long video or multiple parts, then it does. It taking as long as it takes means, uh, it takes as much as it should.
      SCIENCE. WORDS! AHHHH!

    • @o11o01
      @o11o01 6 лет назад +3

      Thaddeus Jancewicz And somehow I understood you perfectly

    • @MrDoboz
      @MrDoboz 5 лет назад

      he better don't meet us after this xD

  • @TonyFleetwood
    @TonyFleetwood 6 лет назад +106

    thank you for another 2d representation of your 3d world.

  • @AlecSteele
    @AlecSteele 6 лет назад +193

    Great video as ever!

    • @rossmoffett1342
      @rossmoffett1342 6 лет назад +3

      Shouldn't you be working?!?!? lmao!! Just kidding take all the time you need man!

    • @brunof1996
      @brunof1996 6 лет назад +2

      Go back to work. We need more videos XD

    • @garybaris139
      @garybaris139 6 лет назад +8

      Alec, have you started doing stuff that are not made of Damascus Steel yet? I started taking a break from your channel when it exhausted everything I could think of being able to be made from Damascus Steel. Don't get me wrong, I loved your channel, just got tired of Damascus Steel. I'll be back in a flash if you've moved on.

    • @dvn711
      @dvn711 6 лет назад +4

      Alec, when are you and Tony going to collaborate?

    • @MichaelJCaboose013
      @MichaelJCaboose013 5 лет назад +1

      That moment when your favorite RUclipsr is lurking in the comments on another favorite RUclipsr's channel. Can't wait to see you in the States!

  • @gunnarwallenberg9817
    @gunnarwallenberg9817 6 лет назад +134

    I love how you can make me interesed in things I didn't even know! 👍

  • @Alitlittlehedgehog
    @Alitlittlehedgehog 6 лет назад +151

    3 videos in a month!! dont push it tony you might hurt yourself.... I love your content and machining is my bag, baby...

    • @davidwright4541
      @davidwright4541 6 лет назад +2

      Not a chance Maxwell Lakritz, he was having some down time next year and came back from the future :-)

  • @reps
    @reps 6 лет назад +472

    Smooth nuts are good.

  • @AimlessMoto
    @AimlessMoto 6 лет назад +40

    I never knew I needed this video until Tony uploaded it.

  • @TC-bz9dz
    @TC-bz9dz 6 лет назад +3

    I always leave an Old Tony video much smarter after watching...I always learn something new!!

  • @dan27052
    @dan27052 6 лет назад +137

    I though the raisin jokes were a little fruity, if not dated... other than that, great video!

    • @macf4426
      @macf4426 6 лет назад +13

      Dan Carpenter Would you prefer he prune them from the script 😀

    • @Hagledesperado
      @Hagledesperado 6 лет назад +7

      Stop wining., I think they're grape.

    • @azyfloof
      @azyfloof 6 лет назад +9

      I think they add to the currant situation

    • @jimleonardson4268
      @jimleonardson4268 6 лет назад +2

      🙄

    • @StanislavG.
      @StanislavG. 6 лет назад +3

      I don't know, I think they were a bit corny

  • @thewmonster
    @thewmonster 6 лет назад +241

    what's this question mark non-sense, Tot? If you made a 48 part grinder series, most of the humans on this thing would watch them back to back with a blank smile on their human faces. i know i would.

    • @index7787
      @index7787 6 лет назад +9

      Can confirm

    • @evaderknives
      @evaderknives 6 лет назад +3

      didn't he already do that when he built it? haha it was a few years ago, but still

    • @ThisIsAVeryBadIdea
      @ThisIsAVeryBadIdea 6 лет назад +3

      Humans, yes! With our mouth and eye for seeing and breathing!

    • @ThisIsAVeryBadIdea
      @ThisIsAVeryBadIdea 6 лет назад +3

      I love air! I breath it all of the time!

    • @barrybritcher
      @barrybritcher 5 лет назад

      That's why I don't watch Alec Steele any more. 500 part build

  • @machinethinking
    @machinethinking 6 лет назад +40

    Putting tangents into auxiliary videos. /me takes notes

    • @TenTries
      @TenTries 3 года назад

      Right? Lessons in RUclips by ToT 👌

  • @davidbrown8365
    @davidbrown8365 6 лет назад +33

    Reading through the comments (which is half the point of watching a TOT video) it seems to be that Tony is liking a lot of the comments.

  • @heyimamaker
    @heyimamaker 6 лет назад +2

    It's nearly 2am, I like the soothing sound of This Old Tony and the gentle chatter of surface grinding before I go to sleep.

  • @Skydiverjoe2871
    @Skydiverjoe2871 6 лет назад +21

    I totally understand about the great variety of grinding wheels, I work in the R&D section the makes grinding wheels for a very large company. It is daunting how many there are

  • @ENCHANTMEN_
    @ENCHANTMEN_ 5 лет назад +51

    For grinding, I recommend finding the easiest enemies to defeat who also yield the most experience. In some cases, I'll actually go for lower yield enemies who are easier to defeat so that I can multitask or watch videos while I'm levelling up. It's a matter of preference, though.

  • @geraldgepes
    @geraldgepes 6 лет назад +10

    A video on selecting the right grit, bond, hardness and openness (I cannot remember what that's called) would go a long way in helping a lot of people. I know too many bench grinders are getting leaned on regularly because they have those concrete wheels they get shipped with on them. Any who, the coffee must be good this week man! Thanks for the threepeat!

  • @TheCalgarydoug
    @TheCalgarydoug 6 лет назад +18

    I used to pick up semi trailer loads at Norton in the mid 60s and over the shippers desk was a sign that read, "illegitimate non carborundum, don't let the bastards grind you down.

  • @FedericoCatalan
    @FedericoCatalan 6 лет назад +3

    I've been kind of thrown into the machining world out of necessity, I had theoretical knowledge in machining as a mold CAD designer but no actual cutting oil in my hands. I have my good 15 years of "experience" now, but having learned on my own what I could, I'm very grateful of the tangents in your videos... The sheer amount of learning I squeeze out of them might surprise you. Thank you This Old Theacher for them.

  • @shieldcaptain54
    @shieldcaptain54 3 года назад

    And like that, im 95% sure I've seen every single video you have ever made.
    Thank you very much for these past few months of outstanding entertainment.

  • @mindthependulum6245
    @mindthependulum6245 6 лет назад +2

    As an automotive technician, I appreciate the heads up on things like this that I do so rarely, that I might have ended up with a chunk of grinding wheel in my head. I'm already grinding gears plenty, so this video is a welcome sight. Thanks Tony!

  • @Handmadeextreme
    @Handmadeextreme 6 лет назад +5

    Superb. Great tip about working on the trailing side of the wheel, makes perfect sense. Moved a Jones and Shipman 540 into my shop this morning.

  • @chris993361
    @chris993361 6 лет назад +2

    I really love your videos and they tend to be a highlight of my day. I for one would not mind the videos getting longer in order for you to include everything you want. Keep up the great work!

  • @AnotherSeeker
    @AnotherSeeker 4 года назад

    Dude. Tony. You go so far for your jokes man. I'm dying with appreciation and a collapsing set of lungs from laughter, just paused on the OPTOACOUSTIC LEVIATION device. For the homeshop.
    It looks really sound.

  • @The.Talent
    @The.Talent 6 лет назад +1

    That was excellent. I’m doing a Materials and Manufacturing course at the moment as part of my engineering degree and this was perfect to explain a lot of what our lecturer missed.

  • @Bullorg
    @Bullorg 6 лет назад +19

    I usually dont comment on videos on YT but I have to comment on a Tony video at some point. When I see a This Old Tony vid has uploaded it more or less makes my day. You are amazing keep up the good work!

  • @axelmilan4292
    @axelmilan4292 6 лет назад

    Love these types of videos. So glad I found your channel and AvE’s.

  • @Skeetmgeett
    @Skeetmgeett 6 лет назад

    A very satisfying style of teaching. Tony, you're too good at this man.

  • @bartsmykla
    @bartsmykla 6 лет назад +16

    So many videos lately. :-) Really nice!

  • @HepauDK
    @HepauDK 6 лет назад +9

    Ah, the planar grinder. Brings back memories from my apprenticeship as a fitter back in the mid-90's. One time I was tasket with making a calibration tool for a cnc machine. It didn't matter if it was 82, 81 or 80mm, it just had to be bang on. First try at 82mm, I ended up at 81.999, so I had to take off those 0.999mm.
    Another time, one of the other apprentices forgot to run the stone dry before turning the grinder off. When he started it up the following morning, the stone shattered and pieces from it flew right past the bench grinder. Luckily noone was using it or they would have ben hit in the head. Oh, and the shattered stone made dents in the magnetic table so we had to plane that too...

    • @TomHaroldArt
      @TomHaroldArt 5 лет назад +5

      So to a guy who doesn't know any better, am I guessing that "running the stone dry" is done after using some kind of coolant with it, and it is done to essentially "wring out" the wheel of absorbed coolant, because if said coolant is not wrung out, it settles overnight at the lower portion of the stone, and when you fire it up, all that coolant weight creates an out-of-balance situation, which immediately goes boom? Did I get that right?

    • @captcarlos
      @captcarlos 5 лет назад +1

      Unfortunately for some you got that perfectly right. Those days there was no such thing as 'soft start'.. Zero to oh my g..... In a nano second!

    • @melgross
      @melgross 5 лет назад +1

      TomHaroldArt exactly.

  • @JasonWorksAlot
    @JasonWorksAlot 6 лет назад +124

    Wooooo!! 3 in a week?! Have I died and gone to heaven?!

    • @asdomega
      @asdomega 6 лет назад +2

      JasonWorksAlot thats exactly what i thought. wooohoo!

    • @oldreliable303
      @oldreliable303 6 лет назад

      yes, we are dead, or drunk

    • @JasonWorksAlot
      @JasonWorksAlot 6 лет назад

      oldreliable303 Justin Scott or both! But who cares haha

    • @mopoworks7780
      @mopoworks7780 6 лет назад

      he said that time isnt linear in his garage..

  • @BrunoSilva-fu6kg
    @BrunoSilva-fu6kg 6 лет назад

    TOT, dude... 3 videos in a week... best holidays ever had, i love your work. Stay up! Regards from Portugal

  • @iShonKo
    @iShonKo 6 лет назад

    Three Tonys in a week! I must be dreaming! Glad to see these kind of vids again.
    as always, thanks for sharing!

  • @MrNarkis
    @MrNarkis 5 лет назад

    me being a CNC machinist I get very much enjoyment out of your videos thank you tony!

  • @jmtx.
    @jmtx. 6 лет назад +1

    Thanks for answering some of the questions I had. Looking forward to Part 2.

  • @Watchyn_Yarwood
    @Watchyn_Yarwood 6 лет назад

    As expected, another very interesting and entertaining video! Thank you sir!

  • @russellstephan6844
    @russellstephan6844 6 лет назад

    Thanks! Questions I had floating around in my mind, but since I'm likely never to have a precision grinder, not much of an urgent issue.
    Enjoy your videos immensely! Love the Easter Eggs.

  • @getdirecti0ns
    @getdirecti0ns 6 лет назад

    That was awesome! I’ve always wondered about the wheel wearing down affecting accuracy. My questions have been answered!!! Thanks TOT!

  • @jasonbice1103
    @jasonbice1103 6 лет назад +2

    Man i've been wondering this since the first time I seen a machinist grinder. And you explained it perfectly, made me think of it as a broach, where 95% of the work is done by the same part of the tool and the other 5% does the finish/sizing. Therefore it last longer. Thanks TOT.

  • @jcarletto27
    @jcarletto27 6 лет назад

    Hi Tony. Thanks for always making such great stuff!

  • @DrRandomStranger
    @DrRandomStranger 6 лет назад

    oh boy! three tot videos in a week! i can hardly hide my excitement!

  • @olemissjim
    @olemissjim 5 лет назад

    You have one of the best shows online. Fantastic.

  • @rarbiart
    @rarbiart 6 лет назад

    that is mind blowing!
    i never asked thoses questions to myself, but with this knowledge i feel a lot better.

  • @bigchooch4434
    @bigchooch4434 6 лет назад +151

    This video must have been difficult to film and edit as a cat.

    • @macf4426
      @macf4426 6 лет назад +13

      He's fine as long as Chris doesn't pick up a laser pointer.

    • @ThisIsAVeryBadIdea
      @ThisIsAVeryBadIdea 6 лет назад +3

      ᗰіɢʜѕᴛ ᗩʟʟ ᑕʀᴜᴄᴋіɴɢ ᖴіɢʜᴛʏ Dat lysdexic name

    • @macf4426
      @macf4426 6 лет назад +2

      Thank you Thaddeus. I wonder if it reads correctly for people who have sexDaily 😀 lol

    • @routercnc9517
      @routercnc9517 6 лет назад +8

      It takes ages. He keeps hitting the paws button.

    • @macf4426
      @macf4426 6 лет назад +4

      routercnc And he has a really bad compulsion to chase the mouse.

  • @robertmcguire7559
    @robertmcguire7559 6 лет назад

    Who dislikes this? Excellent info, great editing and fantastic narrative. Enough superlatives. Also amazarific catchphrase at the end.

  • @williamwallum1236
    @williamwallum1236 6 лет назад

    You answered a question I had and didn’t want to ask. Thanks for another great video. 3 in 1 week. 👍👍👍👍

  • @ChunkyMonkaayyy
    @ChunkyMonkaayyy 5 лет назад +1

    I know you had to take some extra time to explain things but I learned something there. So thanks and keep up the good work. I appreciate all the hard work. I know it’s hard to translate into simple.

  • @lfljvenaura
    @lfljvenaura 6 лет назад

    Fantastic. Extremely useful. Many thanks Tony!!

  • @shanestevens622
    @shanestevens622 4 года назад

    Your voice and manner of speaking, wit etc..sounds a lot like and reminds me of chef John from food wishes. I could listen to you both for hours.

  • @tomholmez1236
    @tomholmez1236 6 лет назад +11

    Wow 3 in 1 week, thankyou lord tony

  • @gladious7894
    @gladious7894 6 лет назад +2

    So many videos recently. Nice work.

  • @AJ-et3vf
    @AJ-et3vf 2 года назад

    Great video. Great quality and visualization

  • @JohnSmith-ry1jc
    @JohnSmith-ry1jc 6 лет назад

    Loving all the content lately! Keep it up Tony!

  • @crisislord00
    @crisislord00 6 лет назад

    These videos are good, quick and informative

  • @dangle_berriestwo5676
    @dangle_berriestwo5676 3 года назад

    a short n sweet video that indeed does make some sense out of my number one surface grinder question....im now clear as mud.

  • @charleswelch5061
    @charleswelch5061 6 лет назад

    Really like your vids, most of the "deleted" scenes, thinking I already know or don't really need to know, thanks for the vid

  • @patrickcharette2151
    @patrickcharette2151 6 лет назад

    I’ll be honest I could watch you discuss and make jokes about stuff for hours

  • @19441978
    @19441978 6 лет назад

    Good short video, to the point and educational. Thanks

  • @Larshjort
    @Larshjort 6 лет назад

    Thank you Tony. It was a great explanation, but kinda obvious looking back at it. Keep up the great work.

  • @H4XX0
    @H4XX0 5 лет назад

    Greetings from Estonia, very nice videos, much help to me.

  • @Reaper4367
    @Reaper4367 6 лет назад

    Great information and demonstration as allways mate. Cheers for sharing :)

  • @lilflatty2472
    @lilflatty2472 6 лет назад

    OMG THIS IS WHAT IV ALWAYS WONDERED ABOUT A SURFACE GRINDER BUT HAVE NEVER FOUND THE ANSWER. THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS VIDEO. NOW I CAN FINALLY SLEEP AT NIGHT!!!

  • @whataboutbob9786
    @whataboutbob9786 6 лет назад

    Love your editing, and content.

  • @TylerDavis0
    @TylerDavis0 6 лет назад

    I asked myself that question every time surface grinding has come up in your (and other) videos. Thanks.

  • @chocolateteaspoon
    @chocolateteaspoon 6 лет назад +92

    but we will still be getting the optoacoustic levitation vid, right?

    • @cand0
      @cand0 5 лет назад +4

      I need this in my life. If it's not a joke, I'm fairly certain that many megaliths were constructed with a similar technique. Please be real.

  • @mohammadkasem2581
    @mohammadkasem2581 6 лет назад

    DUDE I love you, please keep making videos

  • @Wobblybob2004
    @Wobblybob2004 6 лет назад +9

    The wheel is going the right way, you have your machine facing the wrong way! Try turning it to face the wall then give it the old reach around. you'll both be glad you did!

  • @AaronALAI
    @AaronALAI 6 лет назад +1

    Clicked on hoping it would answer this very question from the last video, thank you!

  • @boogiemanfunk
    @boogiemanfunk 6 лет назад

    God bless you tony 3 videos in one week

  • @kroon275
    @kroon275 4 года назад

    I used to do this type of 'flat' grinding. Also cylindrical precision grinding.
    Loved that work.

  • @Mentorcase
    @Mentorcase 6 лет назад

    Ahha, not that I have been kept awake at night trying to work this out, but, good explanation, and now I know this, something to file away for future reference, if I ever decide to buy a surface grinder, if I ever need to grind a surface and surely now I will forget about it and go back to my blissful ignorance on the subject.

  • @eskohc984
    @eskohc984 4 года назад

    i would watch your video even it screen was blank. you are in my top 10 list of favorite youtube doodes.

  • @MarcelDiane
    @MarcelDiane 6 лет назад

    Thanks Tony, it’s been a great week.

  • @RenaxTM91
    @RenaxTM91 6 лет назад +2

    Short and informative for once! I didn't even think to think about grinding wheel wear, but when you mentioned it at the start of the vid i started thinking "how the heck does that get any precision? Then you explain it so even I understand, and thats without going into 20minutes of talking about why the nut seems so un-parralell... tnx

  • @rickfeith6372
    @rickfeith6372 6 лет назад

    This guy could make watching paint dry a fun activity.

  • @BEdmonson85
    @BEdmonson85 6 лет назад

    This was just exactly what I needed to see. I now understand the universe...

  • @craigandjomonk
    @craigandjomonk 6 лет назад

    Another great vid, thanks Tony

  • @evaderknives
    @evaderknives 6 лет назад +1

    Man 3 videos in a week?!?!?! This must be some kind of record!!! SO AWESOME!!! haha... My surface grinder actually attaches to my 2x72 grinder(great for knives, but that's about it, but it does have a built in sine bar). I wanted a full sized model, but I just don't have any room for one... I was looking into a benchtop model, Sanford use to make one, but not anymore... Have a great weekend, take it easy...

  • @ROBRENZ
    @ROBRENZ 6 лет назад

    Good stuff Tony! Grinding might be my favorite pastime.
    ATB, Robin

  • @FredMcIntyre
    @FredMcIntyre 6 лет назад

    Awesome stuff Tony! 👍👊

  • @HeathLedgersChemist
    @HeathLedgersChemist 6 лет назад

    Your videos are never too long.

  • @imnota
    @imnota 2 года назад

    I just watched the 3 videos on fixing the grinder, and now that I rewatch this I finally get the jokes with the pt1 in title and emoji when he talks about the question everyone is asking

  • @hexane360
    @hexane360 5 лет назад

    Finally a good introductory resource on optoaccoustic levitation!

  • @a.bakker64
    @a.bakker64 6 лет назад

    Great video! I often discussed this with colleagues. Now I can show them this video 😉

  • @Braeden123698745
    @Braeden123698745 6 лет назад

    That actually made a lot of sense. Thank you!

  • @carlholm7867
    @carlholm7867 6 лет назад

    ANOTHER video? This can't be heaven, can it?

  • @Razehell42
    @Razehell42 6 лет назад

    Tony overload, loving the videos.

  • @theroboticscodedepot7736
    @theroboticscodedepot7736 6 лет назад

    That was helpful and you are correct it's not what I expected.

  • @stefflus08
    @stefflus08 6 лет назад

    yay to surface grinder video, nay to fast forward!
    There is far too few grinder videos on RUclips, I've been watching suburbantools' videos over and over and over again.
    I've spent so many hours mesmerized in front of their videos I actually deducted this trailing edge business even though I've never even seen a grinder in real life.
    There should be a surface- and OD grinder LIVE feed, 24/7.
    Ooh, and some lapping, too!

  • @letsgoBrandon204
    @letsgoBrandon204 6 лет назад

    I've learned more from This Old Tony than I did in the first year of my engineering apprenticeship.
    The old guys at the place I work seem to be very protective over the niche they've got for themselves. Quite reluctant to give away too much information.
    Some has to be learned by accident, the rest is This Old Tony to the rescue ;)

  • @bendingsands87
    @bendingsands87 6 лет назад

    I've been wanting to learn about this for a while. I hope there are many parts.

  • @eduardosalvato6492
    @eduardosalvato6492 5 лет назад

    wow.. dude.. do more videos like this.
    we NEED to know the secrets of fine precision griding.
    Thank´s bra!

  • @Lycan60606
    @Lycan60606 6 лет назад

    Excellent video TOT, I like the tangent into tangent theme, oohhh so you did a tangentption, very clever Tony

  • @meduffer
    @meduffer 6 лет назад +1

    Good fundamentals that I didn’t know. Thanks!

  • @grendelum
    @grendelum 5 лет назад +2

    0:42 Funny enough I used to work with a *_polychromatic optical acoustic modulator_* or *_PCOAM..._* it was part of the laser bench at a planetarium laser show, where the main beam (50% of it, t’other half had been split off to hit fixed prisms to be split into RBGC) of white laser went through the *PCOAM* which was a crystal that vibrated at ridiculous frequencies to refract the white laser into any of 16.7M colors before it hit its XY scanner amps at the right moments so the pre-rendered laser images were the right colors in the right spots :)

  • @maierpetarer652
    @maierpetarer652 6 лет назад +2

    I worked at a cylindrical grinder factory and learned there to build and use them.
    Especially micrometer grinding was an artform for it self 😉

  • @StefanGotteswinter
    @StefanGotteswinter 6 лет назад

    Are you happy with the Norton 5SG? I thought (heard) that they need quite a bit of pressure (And power on the spindle..) to work/break down properly.

    • @ThisOldTony
      @ThisOldTony  6 лет назад

      Can't say I've notice any big difference in the types of (small) parts I usually see. I started out with regular AO wheels, they worked fine, but I found the seeded gel wheels a lot more forgiving. This is a 6x12 *manual* grinder... when I start getting past 6x3 my arm gets tired and my traverse speed take a sudden nose dive. You have a general purpose wheel you like / recommend?

  • @becker990
    @becker990 6 лет назад

    As always, you are the best

  • @HeathHunnicutt
    @HeathHunnicutt 6 лет назад

    Thanks for answering the question I didn't know how to ask. Good video for a level 1 dabbler to level up from.

  • @Guds777
    @Guds777 6 лет назад

    Mr Tony, now you have spoiled us and need to keep them coming in the same pace. :D :D :D :D :D

  • @MikeDermksian
    @MikeDermksian 6 лет назад

    That all made sense to me, but in the interest of getting to hear more... OMG IM SO CONFUSED PLEASE PART 2 AS FAST AS POSSIBLE