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Funny how you say “Soviet Union occupied east Germany” and call east Germany a “puppet state”.. But forget to mention that Anglo Saxons occupied west Germany and after Soviet Union dissolved, expanded their occupation and today all of Germany is a puppet state.. Wasn’t so noticeable until Americans blew up $10s of billions of German property in 2022, cut them of from cheap energy, plunged German economy into recession and just ordered them to shut up about it 😏 P.s. there were no “ukranian made” planes as there was no such state at the time and since Soviet Union dissolved Ukraine built only one type of airplane and that was only done with Russian cooperation and for a short period..
Are they gonna add the IL-62 into Microsoft Flight Simulator 2022, it’s a good idea plus they could add In-flight fire as a Failure to see if the player can get back to the airport they took off from.
Crazy they became aware at 51 and lost control at 59. Eight minutes. Flying heavy cargo in the US we’re taught if there’s an uncontrolled fire on board you have 7 minutes to get on the ground at all costs. Not necessarily land, just get the plane on the ground. Seven is the number from historical data on crashes by fire by the FAA . Luckily we have better fire detection and extinguishing these days! As well as better bleed monitoring! ♨️
Flying cargo not my idea of fun. Often carrying DGs that are allowed only on cargo aircraft. Yep, I did this work for half my career until I got into the somewhat cloistered world of a major passenger airline.
Also see Swissair 111; they only had some minutes as well until A/C completely uncontrollable. Inflight fire is probably the most severe inflight emergency there is, bar none.
@@olaflieser3812If you ask any pilot what their worst fear is, they'd all agree an in-flight fire is the worst. Not just because of how hot they can be but also how fast it can spread and damage the aircraft.
@@javasrevenge7121 Oooh. That's a great idea I've never heard before. Cockpits are crowded spaces, but a subtly placed screen at each flight attendent station would ensure that crew would know for sure if something's an engine fire and what the 'shape' and colour of the fire is. But do place the screens somewhere passengers can't see them.
@@DisasterBreakdown Ah thanks for that, it's a type of plane that apparently rarely had major incidents. I'd seen images of them, but had heard the name of the type so infrequently I couldn't remember the name.
@@DisasterBreakdown I'm glad you bring light to lesser known air accidents. Hadn't ever heard of this one. I like learning about new disasters. May these poor people R.I.P..
@@DisasterBreakdown A tv-series of the German broadcasting-station mdr reported about this accident in 1998 ("Der Todesflug der IL-62") This was repeated several times on other broadcasting-stations over the years. So it is not "new". But as always: If it is not available in English language it is almost non-existent. Apart from this there is a wikipedia-article dealing with this accident, as usual in English too. By the way: There was a similar flight accident in December 1986, this time caused by a Tu 134 of Aeroflot coming from Minsk. Again the crash site was near Berlin. Only 10 of the 82 souls on board survived. Until today there is a controversy about the true reasons for the accident. Surprisingly enough insufficient knowledge of English language by the russian pilots was one of the main reasons for this deadly accident. The aircrew simply didn't understand the instructions of the ATC...
Fires on Airplanes have always.. terrified me. Just the thought of being unable to do anything as the fire consumes the aircraft is just horrific. The horrid smoke and flames that would otherwise be easier to deal with on land are much more deadly and dangerous in the air. No matter if the crew is well trained or not, its almost always a losing bet. You certainly have done the telling of this terrible incident justice. I also heavily appreciate how you give background details and such in a very fluent manner that fits seamlessly in the video. Thank you for the stellar upload once again, Clohe! I’ve been following your content for about 7 months now and dang, each upload gets better and better.
Airborne fires terrifying yes, but if my final moments are in a airline disaster, I'd prefer a Explosive Decompression.....and hopefully ejection in the process, I feel that's a quick way out lol rather than a fire
There's a reason that aircraft which possess emergency ejection systems typically deploy them as soon as the aircraft catches fire, because once you're actively burning you have nearly no chance of landing safely. I think only a couple planes on the history of commercial aviation have ever landed safely while on fire, and tragically one of those everyone STILL died because they were trapped on board...
@@Rammstein0963. One of the things I noticed with these situations is that the pilots did not try to land as soon as they knew they were on fire ASAP! I don't care if it is in a field, the quicker you get on the ground in an at least slightly controlled landing the more likely you are to survive. To Pilots...TIME OF OF THE ESSENCE, SECONDS COUNT!
i'm from East Berlin and my father worked for Interflug since the mid 1980s, but I only heard of the accident recently, when watching a German youtube video about it. Not many people know about this accident nowadays. last year because of the 50th anniversary there were many reports in the media, maybe people then remembered. i travelled myself some times with the IL62, IL18 and TU134. Actually in 1988 or 1989 i flew with the IL62M to Burgas/Bulgaria for holidays. Same flight route. As a child it was always exciting flying. i remember the crash of an aeroflot plane near airport schönefeld in december 1986. a german school class was killed. the plane was due to land at schönefeld airport and many family members of the passengers actually waited on the panorama terrace of the airport to watch the arrival of the plane. but it never arrived.
Minor point of order: The Restaurant in Leipzig ceased operations in 2022, likely due to COVID, but is now in use as part of a nearby refugee facility, and there's one IL 62 that an absolute madlad of a pilot successfully landed on a grass strip that was only 900 metres long, which is now also on display. This was done in honour of Otto Lilienthal a German 19th Century aviation pioneer who died while testing a glider near the same town.
Thank you so much for mentioning this accident on your channel. The reason for that there isn´t any flight data or cockpit voice recording available is that the equipment failed after a few minutes in flight because the electrical supply had been cut by the fire. It is explained in this (only being in german language available) film by the investigators involved in the case in 1972: ruclips.net/video/1lRvlZzxeKQ/видео.html
Thank you, Chloe, for covering both of the notable air disasters that happened in my country. Once again, fantastic job despite the lack of material. Keep up the amazing work!
Thank you so much for this video. I saw a German documentary on this accident, but I always wanted more information about it. I was disappointed that no one else had covered this incident. Thank you so much for the additional insight.
I just discovered your channel and am blown away. The detail, context and narrative you provide for the incidents you cover are second to none. I follow a lot of air flight disaster channels and I thought I’d seen just about everything, but your channel has been a revelation. Excellent work!
You should make a video on LOT flight 5055. It's also an Il-62, it was also caused by a fire, and it's the deadliest disaster of Poland too. It's also very disturbing if you listen to the ATC recording and the transcript
STFU, hun. This accident was NOT caused by fire. Fire was caused by another known failure with Il-62 engine manufacturing. And there were two LOT's Il-62 accidents caused by the exact same problem.
The root cause of this accident was different and the onboard fire was actually a result of a catastrophic engine failure. Two months before the accident I've actually flew in this particular plane. One thing I did remember from that flight was the distinctive noise of the Soloviev engine.
Thanks for bringing this story to the English speaking floks. I think this one is largely unknown to Non-Germans or even Non-East Germans. A have a few connections to this disaster. For one, a friend of my father was booked onto this flight to Burgas. Fortunately for him he didn't make the flight because he fell ill the day before. He saw this as a sign and never flew again. The other connection I have is an old colleague. I used to work in the hangar at Schönefeld which was previously used by Interflug. Said colleague was an aircraft mechanic trainee for Interflug in 1972. He recalled how police and Stasi personell visited and questioned people and confiscated record books. Everything had to be kept absolutely confidential. All IL-62 were grounded. Ilyushin and the Soviet Union denied all accusations that errors in the construction of the aircraft led to this disaster. However not long after Ilyushin issued all IL-62 aircraft to be retrofitted with smoke detectors and fire extinguishers in that aft cargo hold as well as a little window into the cabin, located between the two aft toilets.
@JackalCrackle What did you think of the Super VC10? Did you also find it to be a slightly eccentric looking aircraft? Don't missunderstand me, I'm not asking in a rude way, I'm just curious because the VC10 and IL62 were very similar in appearance.
@@dodahspeakdefinitely also quite an interesting looking aircraft, though not quite as long (48m compared to 53m) and having some key design differences as well. Though any aircraft with a rear mounted quadjet is very unique.
Kudos to you for creating this video, which is the only one I found in English that covers this disaster in detail. You must have had to gather your information from many sources and I appreciate all the work and the end result. Very well done. 👏 👏 👍
Wonderful presentation and production. I never knew of this one and learned a lot. Thank you for making this and bringing these videos to us. We appreciate your work.
Your videos are mesmerizing. There is a calming, soothing, quality to your narration that provides a pleasant contrast to the mounting terror being described in cold, technical, detail.
Such an extremely ill-fated flight, like you said, the victims never stood a chance. Even with the brutal nature of the accident, I still hope the passengers don't have to suffer long. Another well done educative video Chloe. Great work on the research.
Really enjoyed your video. Very informative. As you pointed out, data on this horrific accident was very scarce. I believe this was the very first Il 62 delivered to Interflug.
The IL-62 was a colossal long range aircraft. Other old Interflug aircraft are still in service. F-WNOW was one of 3 Airbus A310 originally delivered to Interflug and serves now as the Zero-G plane for the European Space Agency after serving with German military for a long time after the collapse of the East German airline. Parabolic flights anyone?
Thanks a lot for the video. It happens that I used to spend a part of my summer holidays in Königs Wusterhausen, but that was a long time after the crash.
Very interesting. I've grown up about 10 miles away from the accident site and can't remember ever having heard about it, even though I'm quite interested in aviation and aviation accidents and have spent hours of my life browsing Wikipedia and watching videos on this topic.
For a transportation-accident in east-germany the information-situation surrounding this one is unusually good, usually the Stasi (Secret police) was much more concerned in keeping stuff out of the public eye and, if it came to light, blaming pilots/drivers rather than Soviet tech.
I just wanted to say you have a beautiful and comforting voice and I really appreciate listening to it to relax… even if the content is distressing at times lol. Thank you.
I like it when I hear about a completely new mishap, as so many of them now are accidents I’ve seen on RUclips several times. This was certainly one I hadn’t come across before. Chloe you never cease to amaze me! I discover we live in the same city and now I learn you were in flight school 😳! Do you or have you, flown commercial airliners ?
Just the thought of how those poor people felt in the last moments of their lives is enough to make me ill and for my blood to figuratively freeze in my veins
One of your initial comments "You are at the mercy of the skill of the pilots" in regards to being unable to go anywhere in the event of a fire on a plane, is indeed correct to a degree. However, there is a whole other part of the crew onboard who are vital to the effort also. Yes, in this case, any actions by the CABIN CREW would likely have made no difference, but there are other incidents where the cabin crew have been praised for their actions in fighting a fire and making decisions to assist in the survival of the passengers involved in an in-flight fire (the Air Canada aircraft featured in the early part of your video being one of them). I have respect for pilots and their skills, but there is a whole team up there, not just the crew in the front.
You're absolutely right of course, although ultimately, when it comes to bringing the aircraft to the ground, the pilots are pretty much on their own. Making sure that they become aware of the danger, that the passengers are "managed" (for lack of a better word), and that they leave the plane in as safe a way as possible, all of that very much depends on the rest of the crew.
@@renerpho All indeed correct, but cabin crew don’t just find a fire and tell the pilots. They use tools and equipment to fight the fire, in addition to everything else you state.
@@andiscott8470 If the fire is in the cabin then of course, they are the first line of defense. For the accident in question, I think the fire itself was out of reach (maybe even undetectable), and so reporting smoke would have been all they could do. Maybe move passengers towards the front if smoke was entering the back sections of the cabin, but I don't know if that was done in this case.
Fire is always a very frightening phenomenon for those involved. I can’t imagine how frightening a fire on an aircraft would be. Those onboard must have been terrified.
your videos are so informational and entertaining. I've watched every single video from your channel. thanks for your work and keep it up im always excited when you have a new video!!!
Il-62 was a good airplane, with a lot of uncommon features. Fires in the tail area also happened eg on BAC 1-11 but people are always keen to blame anything that happens with Soviet airliners on communism (like the LOT's Il-62 crashes that were actually caused by a very profit-motivated, capitalistic attempt to cut on inspection and overhaul costs - timely overhauls would have detected the manufacturing defects of the bearings). Technology has no ideology. But it hates when people think that money or proper political background make them invincible to technical failures and the laws of physics
I thought this was such a beautiful. sleek plane. The narrator's voice, pitch and diction made for easy listening. This was an excellent video-- thank you
14:45 *Chloe:* “Because this accident involved a Soviet airliner, the investigation into this disaster certainly wasn’t without its fair share of…Soviet shenanigans.” *Me:* I’m shocked! Just look at my shocked face! 😱 (And now I feel like a bad person for engaging in sarcasm during such a horrifying and tragic story.)
Very interesting . They were a very tail heavy aircraft requiring an additional 'tail bogey' under the tail to prevent rear end tilt when parked . The Russians never were able to make a break through in the West though have had a chance with the Sukhoi 100 Super Jet but due to poor after sales service most leased aircraft were returned (CityJet Ireland) .
I simply could not imagine going on holiday and then essentially become cooked as the plane falls to the ground. I hope everyone on board rests in peace and hope that they didn't suffer for too long 😭
You just want to cry, or be able to tell the pilots to land. Anywhere, any nearby stretch of road. But we know all this in hindsight. Old planes were scary. We really have moved forward.
Thats absolutely horrifying to hear. My instructors always say “fight it till you hit the ground”. Once you loose the tail controls, it cant be fought, not in a realistic sense. The worst scenario is the one you cant fight. An inflight fire with no prevention equipment. I pray to never see nor experience this.
I remember I was a young kid and my family had flown to the same destination Burgas on the very same day - but from West Germany. You see, those East Bloc holiday resorts were locations were East and West Germans could mix and mangle like nowhere else at the time. So we heard of this tragedy that East Germans wanted to arrive for their vacation at the same day as us - and that their airplane "had exploded mid air" and they all died - that was what we were told or what had been the first impression after the crash. This had a deep impact on the little boy that was me. You never forget. Fortunately such incidents are very rare and aviation always learns from anything bad that happens.
I was 9 years old when this accident happened, and I was unaware of it until now. It would not have been in the news, of which I was pretty aware. No accidents from Soviet Bloc countries were ever in the news unless there were foreign passengers. There were a ton of accidents I never read about back then. Here is another.
Here is another flight, Nationair DC-8 that caught fire after takeoff and crashed just before landing at Jeddah. Its been on ‘Mayday’ and other accident investigation documentaries. A tire that was rushed to get inflated using air instead of nitrogen overheated and blew on the takeoff roll. Gear up, the tire continued to burn in the landing gear compartment and into the cabin. Absolute horror😢 Fatal accident in Jeddah While operating Hajj pilgrimage flights on behalf of Nigeria Airways in 1993, Nationair Canada's DC-8-61 C-GMXQ crashed after taking off from Jeddah's international airport in Saudi Arabia on July 11th, 1991, killing all 261 passengers and crew onboard. The accident remains the worst aviation disaster involving a Canadian airline and also a Douglas DC-8.
Would love a video on the late 1940s crash that killed violinist Genette Neveu and the boxer Marcel Cerdan (Edith Piaf's lover). Paris declared a day of mourning.
This plane indeed had a CVR but it´s ceased to work when the elevator trim issues began and if i remember right them during inspections of Interflug IL-62 there was another plane which wires was broken too.
It's amazing how loud these planes were. About 10 years ago, I was at an outdoor tennis centre in Tokyo which was on the departure path for Haneda airport. Suddenly, there was an enormous roar, easily four or five times as loud as usual, and I saw an unfamiliar plane. I later found out that it was a cargo IL-62 on departure.
Thanks for this video. I flew a lot with IL62 these years. It was a very beatiful big aircraft and flying with it (as a passenger) was very comfortable and always was a pleasure for me. The plane was going smoothly through the air and only very seldom any any turbulences could be felt. The more we were surprised and frightened when this terrible accident happened in the 80th. The accident itself was reported by the GDR news broadcasting but the cause of the disaster was not clearly reported and remained hidden.
I've been living in Berlin for over a decade and I had no idea! that is so interesting. (also Chloe, I bet others have offered as well, but anyway, if you ever need help translating anything from German, feel free to ask)
Checking on the name of the carrier: _Interflight_ doesn't seem to have been used. _Interflug_ is just a combo of _inter-_ (Lat.=between, among) and _Flug_ (Ger.=flight, pronounced "floog"). (The name _Interflight Services_ is in use in Germany today. It is the FBO at Stuttgart Airport.)
Chloe, thanks for another great story. Some interesting facts: * Flight crew of Il-62 used by LOT Polish Airlines consisted of five: two pilots, a flight engineer, a navigator and a radio operator. * The trim tab on Il-62 is operated by a steel cable suspended on plastic composite (textolite, made of cotton fabric and phenolic resin) rollers, obviously susceptible to fire. * There are two different variants of Il-62 shown in the video, the original Il-62 with Kuznetsov NK-8 engines and Il-62M with Solovyev D-30, that can be easily recognised by different type of thrust reversers (clam-shell and bucket-type, respectively). As on the Vickers VC-10, they're installed only on outboard engines (#1 and #4). * LOT Polish Airlines lost one Il-62 (SP-LAA) and and one Il-62M (SP-LBG), both due to in-flight uncontained engine failures - despite different engine types. * In-flight fire is definitely the worst aviator's nightmare. One of a few non-fatal cases is FedEx Express Flight 1406, that landed 13 minutes after fire alarm sounded. As a rule of thumb, 15 minutes is the time you should land after discovering a fire. Air Canda 797 landed in 20 minutes with exactly half of the occupants surviving, UPS Flight 6 crashed after 27 minutes, on the contrary, ValuJet 592 crashed merely 4 minutes after fire appeared (but with oxygen generators exploding in the cargo hold). * An interesting case is Mohawk Airlines Flight 40, where leaking bleed air ignited insulation soaked with hydraulic fluid in a plenum in the empennage.
I always have found the Il-62 to be such a beautiful airplane. I flew on it once from Copenhagen to Moscow (with Aeroflot), and I loved it! Sorry to hear that it might have been a risky trip!
Fires are really the only major fear I have with flying, especially with how many devices have lithium batteries nowadays, all it takes is someone to mistreat one or decide to get the cheapest option. From what I've seen how people treat their own cars of all things, it's amazing we don't have more fires from them.
Seeing this plane in the video, it was the first time that I see a plane with four engines mounted on the tail section instead of just two there and two under the wings
My uncle flew on this plane to burgas and back to Germany shortly before the crash. He has still vivid memory of this amazing experience. Luckily everything went well.
I still remember it, even though I was a little boy at the time. I remember how NVA soldiers who cleaned up there and collected the remains of the dead became old men. What was particularly heartbreaking was how they found the flight attendants.
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Better stay with english b.c. Interflug is rly pronounced completely different :D
Interflugg?? Interfloog, please!
The official flight number was IF450
Funny how you say “Soviet Union occupied east Germany” and call east Germany a “puppet state”..
But forget to mention that Anglo Saxons occupied west Germany and after Soviet Union dissolved, expanded their occupation and today all of Germany is a puppet state..
Wasn’t so noticeable until Americans blew up $10s of billions of German property in 2022, cut them of from cheap energy, plunged German economy into recession and just ordered them to shut up about it 😏
P.s. there were no “ukranian made” planes as there was no such state at the time and since Soviet Union dissolved Ukraine built only one type of airplane and that was only done with Russian cooperation and for a short period..
Are they gonna add the IL-62 into Microsoft Flight Simulator 2022, it’s a good idea plus they could add In-flight fire as a Failure to see if the player can get back to the airport they took off from.
Crazy they became aware at 51 and lost control at 59. Eight minutes. Flying heavy cargo in the US we’re taught if there’s an uncontrolled fire on board you have 7 minutes to get on the ground at all costs. Not necessarily land, just get the plane on the ground. Seven is the number from historical data on crashes by fire by the FAA . Luckily we have better fire detection and extinguishing these days! As well as better bleed monitoring! ♨️
Flying cargo not my idea of fun. Often carrying DGs that are allowed only on cargo aircraft. Yep, I did this work for half my career until I got into the somewhat cloistered world of a major passenger airline.
Also see Swissair 111; they only had some minutes as well until A/C completely uncontrollable.
Inflight fire is probably the most severe inflight emergency there is, bar none.
@@olaflieser3812If you ask any pilot what their worst fear is, they'd all agree an in-flight fire is the worst. Not just because of how hot they can be but also how fast it can spread and damage the aircraft.
And camera`s pointed to the engines.
@@javasrevenge7121 Oooh. That's a great idea I've never heard before. Cockpits are crowded spaces, but a subtly placed screen at each flight attendent station would ensure that crew would know for sure if something's an engine fire and what the 'shape' and colour of the fire is. But do place the screens somewhere passengers can't see them.
Never heard of this one, but it sounds utterly horrific and gruesome.
I hadn't heard of it myself until recently. Thought I'd bring some attention to it.
@@DisasterBreakdown me too. I am Bulgarian by that way but not from Burgas .
@@DisasterBreakdown Ah thanks for that, it's a type of plane that apparently rarely had major incidents. I'd seen images of them, but had heard the name of the type so infrequently I couldn't remember the name.
@@DisasterBreakdown I'm glad you bring light to lesser known air accidents. Hadn't ever heard of this one. I like learning about new disasters. May these poor people R.I.P..
@@DisasterBreakdown A tv-series of the German broadcasting-station mdr reported about this accident in 1998 ("Der Todesflug der IL-62") This was repeated several times on other broadcasting-stations over the years. So it is not "new". But as always: If it is not available in English language it is almost non-existent. Apart from this there is a wikipedia-article dealing with this accident, as usual in English too. By the way: There was a similar flight accident in December 1986, this time caused by a Tu 134 of Aeroflot coming from Minsk. Again the crash site was near Berlin. Only 10 of the 82 souls on board survived. Until today there is a controversy about the true reasons for the accident. Surprisingly enough insufficient knowledge of English language by the russian pilots was one of the main reasons for this deadly accident. The aircrew simply didn't understand the instructions of the ATC...
Fires on Airplanes have always.. terrified me. Just the thought of being unable to do anything as the fire consumes the aircraft is just horrific. The horrid smoke and flames that would otherwise be easier to deal with on land are much more deadly and dangerous in the air. No matter if the crew is well trained or not, its almost always a losing bet.
You certainly have done the telling of this terrible incident justice.
I also heavily appreciate how you give background details and such in a very fluent manner that fits seamlessly in the video. Thank you for the stellar upload once again, Clohe! I’ve been following your content for about 7 months now and dang, each upload gets better and better.
Airborne fires terrifying yes, but if my final moments are in a airline disaster, I'd prefer a Explosive Decompression.....and hopefully ejection in the process, I feel that's a quick way out lol rather than a fire
There's a reason that aircraft which possess emergency ejection systems typically deploy them as soon as the aircraft catches fire, because once you're actively burning you have nearly no chance of landing safely.
I think only a couple planes on the history of commercial aviation have ever landed safely while on fire, and tragically one of those everyone STILL died because they were trapped on board...
@@Rammstein0963. One of the things I noticed with these situations is that the pilots did not try to land as soon as they knew they were on fire ASAP! I don't care if it is in a field, the quicker you get on the ground in an at least slightly controlled landing the more likely you are to survive. To Pilots...TIME OF OF THE ESSENCE, SECONDS COUNT!
Nigeria Airways Flight 2120:
Its similar on ships.
My mother grew up in east Germany and this plane crash, was and still is well known till this day in the eastern parts of Germany.
I am Bulgarian but never heard of it . The plane 😊was flying to Burgas which is second largest coastal city in Bulgaria
I grew up in Eastern Germany and never actually heard of it.
@@TheYacu it was nasty one though
i'm from East Berlin and my father worked for Interflug since the mid 1980s, but I only heard of the accident recently, when watching a German youtube video about it. Not many people know about this accident nowadays. last year because of the 50th anniversary there were many reports in the media, maybe people then remembered.
i travelled myself some times with the IL62, IL18 and TU134. Actually in 1988 or 1989 i flew with the IL62M to Burgas/Bulgaria for holidays. Same flight route. As a child it was always exciting flying.
i remember the crash of an aeroflot plane near airport schönefeld in december 1986. a german school class was killed. the plane was due to land at schönefeld airport and many family members of the passengers actually waited on the panorama terrace of the airport to watch the arrival of the plane. but it never arrived.
The GDR was a socialist state, and accidents do not happen in socialist stats, per government. So only people from the area knew about it.
Minor point of order: The Restaurant in Leipzig ceased operations in 2022, likely due to COVID, but is now in use as part of a nearby refugee facility, and there's one IL 62 that an absolute madlad of a pilot successfully landed on a grass strip that was only 900 metres long, which is now also on display. This was done in honour of Otto Lilienthal a German 19th Century aviation pioneer who died while testing a glider near the same town.
If I'm correct, the plane was even named after his wife.
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I see the bait. I'm not biting.
@@grmpEqweer As someone who had COVID, me neither.
well dangit. i was planning on dining at the ilyushin restaurant someday, haha.
@@loughton57 'How to recognize signs of the End Times' Hahahahhaha yep just the sort of stuff I'd expect in your profile.
Thank you so much for mentioning this accident on your channel. The reason for that there isn´t any flight data or cockpit voice recording available is that the equipment failed after a few minutes in flight because the electrical supply had been cut by the fire. It is explained in this (only being in german language available) film by the investigators involved in the case in 1972: ruclips.net/video/1lRvlZzxeKQ/видео.html
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Most black boxes are stored in the rear so it probably wouldn't have been readable anyway
Can you make a video of Saudia Flight 163. The plane landed safely, but nobody survived.
Yes! Its been on my list of videos to make for a while. I'll see if I can get round to it soon.
@@DisasterBreakdown Thank you Chloe
@@DisasterBreakdown or Swiss Air 111
@@kirilmihaylov1934I think he already did that
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Thank you, Chloe, for covering both of the notable air disasters that happened in my country.
Once again, fantastic job despite the lack of material. Keep up the amazing work!
Thank you so much for this video.
I saw a German documentary on this accident, but I always wanted more information about it. I was disappointed that no one else had covered this incident. Thank you so much for the additional insight.
It was nice to hear a story that wasn't so well known. I like your delivery and thoroughness.
I just discovered your channel and am blown away. The detail, context and narrative you provide for the incidents you cover are second to none. I follow a lot of air flight disaster channels and I thought I’d seen just about everything, but your channel has been a revelation. Excellent work!
You should make a video on LOT flight 5055. It's also an Il-62, it was also caused by a fire, and it's the deadliest disaster of Poland too. It's also very disturbing if you listen to the ATC recording and the transcript
STFU, hun. This accident was NOT caused by fire. Fire was caused by another known failure with Il-62 engine manufacturing. And there were two LOT's Il-62 accidents caused by the exact same problem.
The root cause of this accident was different and the onboard fire was actually a result of a catastrophic engine failure. Two months before the accident I've actually flew in this particular plane. One thing I did remember from that flight was the distinctive noise of the Soloviev engine.
@@mdwroblewski That is very interesting! I wrote the comment from my memory, thank you for correcting me and sharing your experience
Kabacki Forest crash?
@@racingraptor4758 Yes, that's the one. It happened on 9th May 1987. The deadliest air crash on polish soil.
As a pilot this is soul destroying.
I was a teenager when this happened and lived near the East German border and now recall it being reported on the radio. RIP to all victims. So sad.
Your show is so well put together and presented, as well as informative , historical, respectful and fascinating. Thank you
Thanks for bringing this story to the English speaking floks. I think this one is largely unknown to Non-Germans or even Non-East Germans. A have a few connections to this disaster. For one, a friend of my father was booked onto this flight to Burgas. Fortunately for him he didn't make the flight because he fell ill the day before. He saw this as a sign and never flew again. The other connection I have is an old colleague. I used to work in the hangar at Schönefeld which was previously used by Interflug. Said colleague was an aircraft mechanic trainee for Interflug in 1972. He recalled how police and Stasi personell visited and questioned people and confiscated record books. Everything had to be kept absolutely confidential. All IL-62 were grounded. Ilyushin and the Soviet Union denied all accusations that errors in the construction of the aircraft led to this disaster. However not long after Ilyushin issued all IL-62 aircraft to be retrofitted with smoke detectors and fire extinguishers in that aft cargo hold as well as a little window into the cabin, located between the two aft toilets.
What a terrifying story about a rather eccentric looking aircraft. Rest in peace to all 156 people on board ❤
Not resting. Just dead
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@JackalCrackle What did you think of the Super VC10? Did you also find it to be a slightly eccentric looking aircraft? Don't missunderstand me, I'm not asking in a rude way, I'm just curious because the VC10 and IL62 were very similar in appearance.
@@dodahspeakdefinitely also quite an interesting looking aircraft, though not quite as long (48m compared to 53m) and having some key design differences as well. Though any aircraft with a rear mounted quadjet is very unique.
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Never heard of this before. Thanks for doing it. Sad for the people who lost their lives! What a horrible way to go. RIP
Kudos to you for creating this video, which is the only one I found in English that covers this disaster in detail. You must have had to gather your information from many sources and I appreciate all the work and the end result. Very well done. 👏 👏 👍
Love these videos because it's clear you do a lot of research yourself and pull together many sources
Wonderful presentation and production. I never knew of this one and learned a lot. Thank you for making this and bringing these videos to us. We appreciate your work.
Your videos are mesmerizing. There is a calming, soothing, quality to your narration that provides a pleasant contrast to the mounting terror being described in cold, technical, detail.
Absolutely horrific!! I can't imagine being in a burning plane...nightmare fuel!! Thank you for uploading and sharing!! ✈😊
Such an extremely ill-fated flight, like you said, the victims never stood a chance. Even with the brutal nature of the accident, I still hope the passengers don't have to suffer long. Another well done educative video Chloe. Great work on the research.
Your research skills are impressive. Thanks so much for bringing these episodes to us. They are fascinating and informative.
Really enjoyed your video. Very informative. As you pointed out, data on this horrific accident was very scarce. I believe this was the very first Il 62 delivered to Interflug.
The IL-62 was a colossal long range aircraft. Other old Interflug aircraft are still in service. F-WNOW was one of 3 Airbus A310 originally delivered to Interflug and serves now as the Zero-G plane for the European Space Agency after serving with German military for a long time after the collapse of the East German airline. Parabolic flights anyone?
It was a 3 by 3 seat configuration with a single isle, hardly colossal.
Thanks!... That was a great story.
Thank you for the SuperThanks!!!
You did an amazing job on this video even with limited information not completely in German. Really, thank you. Excellent work Chloe!
Thanks a lot for the video. It happens that I used to spend a part of my summer holidays in Königs Wusterhausen, but that was a long time after the crash.
Very interesting.
I've grown up about 10 miles away from the accident site and can't remember ever having heard about it, even though I'm quite interested in aviation and aviation accidents and have spent hours of my life browsing Wikipedia and watching videos on this topic.
For a transportation-accident in east-germany the information-situation surrounding this one is unusually good, usually the Stasi (Secret police) was much more concerned in keeping stuff out of the public eye and, if it came to light, blaming pilots/drivers rather than Soviet tech.
I just wanted to say you have a beautiful and comforting voice and I really appreciate listening to it to relax… even if the content is distressing at times lol. Thank you.
I like it when I hear about a completely new mishap, as so many of them now are accidents I’ve seen on RUclips several times. This was certainly one I hadn’t come across before. Chloe you never cease to amaze me! I discover we live in the same city and now I learn you were in flight school 😳! Do you or have you, flown commercial airliners ?
Just the thought of how those poor people felt in the last moments of their lives is enough to make me ill and for my blood to figuratively freeze in my veins
Great job with this. I had not heard of this accident. Thanks!
One of your initial comments "You are at the mercy of the skill of the pilots" in regards to being unable to go anywhere in the event of a fire on a plane, is indeed correct to a degree. However, there is a whole other part of the crew onboard who are vital to the effort also. Yes, in this case, any actions by the CABIN CREW would likely have made no difference, but there are other incidents where the cabin crew have been praised for their actions in fighting a fire and making decisions to assist in the survival of the passengers involved in an in-flight fire (the Air Canada aircraft featured in the early part of your video being one of them). I have respect for pilots and their skills, but there is a whole team up there, not just the crew in the front.
You're absolutely right of course, although ultimately, when it comes to bringing the aircraft to the ground, the pilots are pretty much on their own. Making sure that they become aware of the danger, that the passengers are "managed" (for lack of a better word), and that they leave the plane in as safe a way as possible, all of that very much depends on the rest of the crew.
@@renerpho All indeed correct, but cabin crew don’t just find a fire and tell the pilots. They use tools and equipment to fight the fire, in addition to everything else you state.
@@andiscott8470 If the fire is in the cabin then of course, they are the first line of defense. For the accident in question, I think the fire itself was out of reach (maybe even undetectable), and so reporting smoke would have been all they could do. Maybe move passengers towards the front if smoke was entering the back sections of the cabin, but I don't know if that was done in this case.
Fire is always a very frightening phenomenon for those involved. I can’t imagine how frightening a fire on an aircraft would be. Those onboard must have been terrified.
your videos are so informational and entertaining. I've watched every single video from your channel. thanks for your work and keep it up im always excited when you have a new video!!!
First I've heard of this disaster! Thank you!
Great video. RIP for all those who lost their lives
I love all the extra research you put into these. The history, politics and economics of the time. Fascinating
Chloe, you do a good job on these videos. You make everything so understandable. Thank you
Very informative video. I’d never heard this story before now
Thanks for the new video I have never herd of, Great job!
Il-62 was a good airplane, with a lot of uncommon features. Fires in the tail area also happened eg on BAC 1-11 but people are always keen to blame anything that happens with Soviet airliners on communism (like the LOT's Il-62 crashes that were actually caused by a very profit-motivated, capitalistic attempt to cut on inspection and overhaul costs - timely overhauls would have detected the manufacturing defects of the bearings). Technology has no ideology. But it hates when people think that money or proper political background make them invincible to technical failures and the laws of physics
I honestly look forward to a new video every Saturday. Good job with this video.
I thought this was such a beautiful. sleek plane. The narrator's voice, pitch and diction made for easy listening. This was an excellent video-- thank you
14:45 *Chloe:* “Because this accident involved a Soviet airliner, the investigation into this disaster certainly wasn’t without its fair share of…Soviet shenanigans.”
*Me:* I’m shocked! Just look at my shocked face! 😱
(And now I feel like a bad person for engaging in sarcasm during such a horrifying and tragic story.)
I think American do the same in 737MAX until other's regulators grounded them.
Just like always, well done! Oh, and yes, I clicked the like button at 4 seconds. I knew I was in for another informative gem.
Chloe always brings it.🤩
great video, as always!
Chloe your video's are always amazing. Thanks for all your efforts to keep us entertained.
You are so welcome!
I’m about to binge watch your content. Thank you ❤
Very interesting . They were a very tail heavy aircraft requiring an additional 'tail bogey' under the tail to prevent rear end tilt when parked . The Russians never were able to make a break through in the West though have had a chance with the Sukhoi 100 Super Jet but due to poor after sales service most leased aircraft were returned (CityJet Ireland) .
I simply could not imagine going on holiday and then essentially become cooked as the plane falls to the ground. I hope everyone on board rests in peace and hope that they didn't suffer for too long 😭
Thank you for this video, great work as always!
Greetings from Leipzig :)
Fires are scary. Fires on planes are incredibly scary. I wonder, how that tail cone section wass designed in a very similar VC-10
Your stories are getting better and better.😊
Thanks for this video! Hope in the future we get more with CVR included
Love the vids Chloe keep it up
Thank you for this video.
You just want to cry, or be able to tell the pilots to land. Anywhere, any nearby stretch of road. But we know all this in hindsight. Old planes were scary. We really have moved forward.
Good work. I've watched hundreds of air crash investigations, yours are well done and interesting. Thanks
Thats absolutely horrifying to hear. My instructors always say “fight it till you hit the ground”. Once you loose the tail controls, it cant be fought, not in a realistic sense. The worst scenario is the one you cant fight. An inflight fire with no prevention equipment. I pray to never see nor experience this.
I remember I was a young kid and my family had flown to the same destination Burgas on the very same day - but from West Germany.
You see, those East Bloc holiday resorts were locations were East and West Germans could mix and mangle like nowhere else at the time.
So we heard of this tragedy that East Germans wanted to arrive for their vacation at the same day as us - and that their airplane "had exploded mid air" and they all died - that was what we were told or what had been the first impression after the crash.
This had a deep impact on the little boy that was me. You never forget.
Fortunately such incidents are very rare and aviation always learns from anything bad that happens.
Great video this week!
Wow. This is such a unique story. Thank you for covering this!
I was 9 years old when this accident happened, and I was unaware of it until now. It would not have been in the news, of which I was pretty aware. No accidents from Soviet Bloc countries were ever in the news unless there were foreign passengers. There were a ton of accidents I never read about back then. Here is another.
Imagine being on the ground and a body drops out of the sky on top of you. *shudder* Rest in peace, beautiful souls.
If I survived that, I'd think the universe just had it out for me.
@@grmpEqweer Same!
@@grmpEqweer You may want to look up Kenya Airways Flight KQ 100 on June 30, 2019.
Here is another flight, Nationair DC-8 that caught fire after takeoff and crashed just before landing at Jeddah.
Its been on ‘Mayday’ and other accident investigation documentaries.
A tire that was rushed to get inflated using air instead of nitrogen overheated and blew on the takeoff roll. Gear up, the tire continued to burn in the landing gear compartment and into the cabin. Absolute horror😢
Fatal accident in Jeddah
While operating Hajj pilgrimage flights on behalf of Nigeria Airways in 1993, Nationair Canada's DC-8-61 C-GMXQ crashed after taking off from Jeddah's international airport in Saudi Arabia on July 11th, 1991, killing all 261 passengers and crew onboard. The accident remains the worst aviation disaster involving a Canadian airline and also a Douglas DC-8.
I mean... given the occupancy limits of a DC-8 yikes. O-o'
Chloe has a video about that one.
@@marhawkman303 They made some pretty long ones.
Nationair 2120. The Smithsonian episode was absolutely horror.burning bodies falling out of the plane as it disintegrated
Would love a video on the late 1940s crash that killed violinist Genette Neveu and the boxer Marcel Cerdan (Edith Piaf's lover). Paris declared a day of mourning.
RIP to the 150 people onboard it must’ve been a terrible nightmare for those people 😢❤️
Nah bro, wrong emoji 💀
@@ThisIsMurica1 I put the wrong emoji sorry
@@erajehaidery2019 what emoji?
2:35 I'am Sorry but Lockheed Jetstar also came in 4 rear mounted engine configuration, although Jetstar was a business jet and not an airliner
There's something eye-catching of the cold-war era Soviet air-liners... Some even had a "drag-schute" of all things.
Great job on video
This plane indeed had a CVR but it´s ceased to work when the elevator trim issues began and if i remember right them during inspections of Interflug IL-62 there was another plane which wires was broken too.
It's amazing how loud these planes were. About 10 years ago, I was at an outdoor tennis centre in Tokyo which was on the departure path for Haneda airport. Suddenly, there was an enormous roar, easily four or five times as loud as usual, and I saw an unfamiliar plane. I later found out that it was a cargo IL-62 on departure.
Thanks for this video. I flew a lot with IL62 these years. It was a very beatiful big aircraft and flying with it (as a passenger) was very comfortable and always was a pleasure for me. The plane was going smoothly through the air and only very seldom any any turbulences could be felt.
The more we were surprised and frightened when this terrible accident happened in the 80th. The accident itself was reported by the GDR news broadcasting but the cause of the disaster was not clearly reported and remained hidden.
Because no exact evidence , cause of disaster was not cleary report. The final result were just a guess.
Your vid's are amazing keep it up 💯🙌
I cannot recall the year, a Swiss airliner caught fire near New York City. The entertainment monitors cause the fire aboard the aircraft.
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1998 . September. Swiss Air 111
@@kirilmihaylov1934 Thanks.
@@henrymcmiller2527 saw that one before. It was a half-baked after-market upgrade that wasn't wired properly.
This one, and Nigeria Airways 2120, are probably the single-plane disasters most closely resembling an Horror Movie.
Also Swiss Air 111
@@kirilmihaylov1934 Yes, that too - No wonder all three of them involve planes slowly being melted in flight by a fire.
And the Valujet crash. The Valujet inflight fire was particularly vicious because the cargo literally generated its own oxigen.
Nationair airlines operating for Nigeria airlines. Canadian airplane and crew...
@@johangw2 when was that
I never saw this documentary of this sad accident. Thank you for this educational video friend. Rip Amen 🙏.
I've been living in Berlin for over a decade and I had no idea! that is so interesting. (also Chloe, I bet others have offered as well, but anyway, if you ever need help translating anything from German, feel free to ask)
Thanks DB! Great content, research and deployment! This channel is 'configured for take off'!
Aussie air maniac out!
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“For what it’s worth, there were no accidents of this nature involving the IL-62 ever again.”
LOT Polish Airlines Flight 5055 begs to differ
Good presentation and facts!
Checking on the name of the carrier: _Interflight_ doesn't seem to have been used. _Interflug_ is just a combo of _inter-_ (Lat.=between, among) and _Flug_ (Ger.=flight, pronounced "floog").
(The name _Interflight Services_ is in use in Germany today. It is the FBO at Stuttgart Airport.)
Chloe, thanks for another great story. Some interesting facts: * Flight crew of Il-62 used by LOT Polish Airlines consisted of five: two pilots, a flight engineer, a navigator and a radio operator. * The trim tab on Il-62 is operated by a steel cable suspended on plastic composite (textolite, made of cotton fabric and phenolic resin) rollers, obviously susceptible to fire. * There are two different variants of Il-62 shown in the video, the original Il-62 with Kuznetsov NK-8 engines and Il-62M with Solovyev D-30, that can be easily recognised by different type of thrust reversers (clam-shell and bucket-type, respectively). As on the Vickers VC-10, they're installed only on outboard engines (#1 and #4). * LOT Polish Airlines lost one Il-62 (SP-LAA) and and one Il-62M (SP-LBG), both due to in-flight uncontained engine failures - despite different engine types. * In-flight fire is definitely the worst aviator's nightmare. One of a few non-fatal cases is FedEx Express Flight 1406, that landed 13 minutes after fire alarm sounded. As a rule of thumb, 15 minutes is the time you should land after discovering a fire. Air Canda 797 landed in 20 minutes with exactly half of the occupants surviving, UPS Flight 6 crashed after 27 minutes, on the contrary, ValuJet 592 crashed merely 4 minutes after fire appeared (but with oxygen generators exploding in the cargo hold). * An interesting case is Mohawk Airlines Flight 40, where leaking bleed air ignited insulation soaked with hydraulic fluid in a plenum in the empennage.
I always have found the Il-62 to be such a beautiful airplane. I flew on it once from Copenhagen to Moscow (with Aeroflot), and I loved it! Sorry to hear that it might have been a risky trip!
Are you OK mentally?
Good job on video
Ik this is off topic but I love that you add the song names and artists
Excellent narration!
Great video, say have you considered the Kano Air Disaster, the deadliest air disaster at one point
I'll look into it, thanks for the suggestion.
Fires are really the only major fear I have with flying, especially with how many devices have lithium batteries nowadays, all it takes is someone to mistreat one or decide to get the cheapest option. From what I've seen how people treat their own cars of all things, it's amazing we don't have more fires from them.
Seeing this plane in the video, it was the first time that I see a plane with four engines mounted on the tail section instead of just two there and two under the wings
Omg i wanna go to that airplane restaurant so bad ✈️ 🍽️ ✈️ definitely on my bucket list now
My uncle flew on this plane to burgas and back to Germany shortly before the crash. He has still vivid memory of this amazing experience. Luckily everything went well.
I still remember it, even though I was a little boy at the time. I remember how NVA soldiers who cleaned up there and collected the remains of the dead became old men. What was particularly heartbreaking was how they found the flight attendants.
Very interesting and well presented facts!