San Francisco summer 1992 in HD (Hi8)
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- A Trip through the streets of San Francisco in the summer of 1992. Recorded on Hi8 with a Sony CCD V6000 Hi8 Pro.
Edited in Davinci Resolve and Deinterlace (QTGMC), noise reduction and upscale with Vaporsynth.
in my mind only san fierro
_"There she is, brother. San Fierro, the city of psychodelic wonders."_
The Truth (1992)
There she is, brother: San Fierro, city of psychedelic wonders. There ain't a better place to escape the Man, man.
Cant believe i never been here before
hey this looks like san fierro from san andreas
It's San Francisco in 1992
4:34 That's where CJ and Cesar killed T-Bone Mendez.
Pier 69
And Ryder, shermhead asshole
Underrated comment
Foi um ano histórico para o CJ haha. Essas ruas que o diga...
POV: You watched too much GTA trilogy videos
0:17 that goddamn invincible tram......
Hold up ain't you mean
That fiction world?
0:01 damn savanna
@@lianaabdmanap8587 lol rly
it reminds me of san fierro in gta san andreas, miss this game
the yay leaving san fierro right?
Cj be having fun with big smoke there
ruclips.net/video/kCJXvBEeqkM/видео.html
Right, but they using bikes, CJ, and they go cross country.
@@iconicsailor5947 - *Accept the job* :
_"I'm on it, see if I can spoil their little party . I'll see you later, man."_
*Decline the job* :
_"Not for now, I gotta check in some shit."_
SAN FIERRO
Wow San Francisco looks so awesome in 1992 almost 29 years ago
This is just curiosity, in 1992 san francisco had many homeless people, drug users and tents like today?
today, San Francisco is a depressing city, many homeless, drug users, very high taxes, theft of less than $ 1000 is not considered a crime
3:49 only GTA players know what happened there
The real death of Ryder Wilson , T-Bone Mendez and fake death of Toreno happened here . )))
@@mafia_gamer_official30973 Right :D
@@DorianFiftyV - 😎👍🏻
@@mafia_gamer_official30973 Nope. Toreno is at a different location. Toreno faked his death in the mission toreno last flight, which is at a freeway.
@@R32-e7q - YES ! That's why I said "fake death of Toreno".
Gta San Andreas
Yeah.
San Fierro.
@@Camilo_Ballestas what Pier 39 GTA SA she is Pier 69
If you wanted to see San Francisco in 1992 but, there was no RUclips, You would have to watch Full House.
Or play GTA San Andreas, the game is set in 1992
That looks stunning. I wanted that camera back in those days. Looks far better than the footage from our old CCD-V8AF, and CCD-TR75e
Watching this video while humming GTA San Andreas theme
Its damn good quality for Hi8
Jan Kowalski I so much agree
Looks very good coming from a 1992 analog personal video camera. Must have been worth a lot back then. We couldn’t afford those things growing up in our household.
Same here. HI-8 was pretty much prosumer level. It had an amazing quality for the compact size, but the price tag was enormous. They are worthless now and a working HI-8 camera can be had for $20-$30 on eBay complete with everything.
I was surprised to know that before DVD videos came into the home video market in the late 90s, the home video customers of the early 90s had Laserdisc videos which were very expensive and not too many customers in the country owned Laserdisc players, but in my childhood years with my family we only owned a VCR player to play VHS tapes and the VHS tapes were at a price of $14.99 or $19.99 each. Good memories of the early 90s while my Grandpa was still alive.
San fierro?
Yeah!
This brings back hella good and some bad memories
Nesse ano aí o CJ já tava derretendo os Ballas
Where's woozie?
Woozie is run
Haha. Best comment and reference on this video!
Ho yesss🧐🤔
Very good digitalizzation the v6000 was already a nice camera without paying too much for it.
Gta san andreas, san fierro irl
Look like gta San Andreas location
who remember gta sa
Me
Me
San Fierro.
This looks awesome for a 1992 consumer analog camcorder! Props for correctly deinterlacing to 50p.
Why does it look way better than most hi8? if you could explain that to a camera layman, I would greatly appreciate it.
I'm going to explain that in a video soon ...
@@videotaperetro1126 Would you be able to give permission to use this in a documentary?
@@katecoe2062 Hi, could you tell me what this documentary is about? Can I also view the result? Do you mention the source? If this is all ok, then you can certainly use this.
@@videotaperetro1126 Could you email me please? katecoe AT gmail DOT com
The audio is good!
Gta san Andreas happened in 1992
You are one person who can transfer hi 8 correctly, hats off to you. I aspire to be like you.
Most youtubers who explain digitization miss the ball. Their credo is Fast, Easy and Cheap. They sometimes also lack knowledge, you can hear that from their explanation. No it is difficult, requires a lot of knowledge, takes time and it is expensive if you want to do it right. I find it difficult to explain what I do. I've tried several times but I should write a book ....
@@videotaperetro1126 you could probably teach it on here, but i agree. How do you recommend digitizing Hi8 tapes? I've been looking at renting a Sony GV-D200.
Hello Max the Sony GV-D200 is a good start. Be sure to turn the TBC on and the NR off. And try to capture in uncompressed 10bit 4: 2: 2 colorspace. Or any other codec that does uncompressed. Or Prores HQ, this is also a very good codec for capturing. Don't use H264 or H265 or MPEG2. And capture without deinterlacing and upscale or any other conversion. The result must be a PAL 720x576 50i (check with mediainfo: mediaarea.net/nl/MediaInfo) file. When you are ready, can you give me a small piece so I can further explain what you can do?
@@videotaperetro1126 yeah absolutely, thank you, i've got those tapes on the back burner because i'm flying home in a week or so to pick up more tapes plus clean out an old house. I'll probably copy those in a few weeks. Any reason I should use pal? I'm in the US, should i still use PAL? Also i have a separate question, I'm converting VHS to digital within the next week or so, i'm using a VCR with HDMI upscale, i have a standard HDMI capture card that's giving me this: 1920x1080 25 fps, YUV 4:2:2 ProRES, with PCM Audio, would this capture device suffice for capturing upscaled VHS? and if so, should i upscale to 1080 / 720 / 480? I was planning on upscaling but sizing down if i needed to.
@@maxamillion2140 Excuse me. I thought you were in Europe, it would be Pal. Of course it should be NTSC for you. Sorry.
Ahh.. I miss SF.
Not much has changed surprisingly
It has. Homeless and trash and inflation everywhere.
gta san andreas...
i cant believe they had so many cars, tall buildings and technology back in the ancient world of 1992, i always expect it to look ancient but it looks so modern....
If you'd go back to 1962 it would still look really similar. I'm born in 1990, it's not like we lived in a wooden Shack...
Since when was 1992 considered ancient? Are you like 12 years old or what?
@@arjunnair6023 I'm like really, kids these days...
No cable cars 🚠 today due to Covid-19
GTA SA
San Fierro
@@powerskill6854 yes ikr, i have played that
Yeah.
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Where's CJ?
I watched just cause of the game 😂
He is following the damn train 😂😂😂
Los angels bro...
@@adhimaerotras47 CJ is also located in Las Vegas
Juniper Hollow
No Alcatraz. In gta sa final version
How was a recording on Hi8 on Digital or Analog video ? If is analog tape it is very good quality, respect :)
Hi, it's Hi8 analog. in 1992 there was no digital8 yet. This was only introduced in 1999. I filmed this with a Sony PRO Hi8 V6000 Camera.
@Karlis Berzins Hi i did this last year.
@Karlis Berzins It is a misunderstanding that tapes would degrade so quickly. All my Hi8 tapes have only been recorded once, so no mechanical wear on the tape. Normally stored at room temperature and in a box. Standing up straight. They are master tape quality tapes, that helps too. Maybe in 50 or 100 years they will no longer be legible.
@Karlis Berzins I only rewound them a few times. Now that they have been digitized, they no longer come out of the box.
@Karlis Berzins That strongly depends on the type of tape. There are tapes that are specially designed for long-term storage, others are made to overwrite a lot. There are tapes that are severely degraded after just 10 years. But as I have seen, some VHS and Video 8 and Hi8 tapes last much longer than is usually said. I do not know exactly why.
It’s too bad sf doesn’t look like this anymore :/
What happened to it? I've never been there before
@@i.RUclipsr1 now its just boring
@@i.RUclipsr1 houses only
any chance you'll remember the exact month it was filmed?
July August
Hi8 cool! )))
Do PAL minidv tapes give better results?
Hell yes. just check out some videos on my yt channel.
could you tell me how/with what did you capture this amazing quality?
These cheap ebay av2hdmi converters does a terrible job compared to your footage.
thanks
That is a question to which I have often answered. Just go through all the comments and answers. Also from my other videos from my channel. In any case, you're right about those crappy converters that you can buy for a few dollars that do just about everything wrong and turn your beautiful sd videos into a blurry mess.
@@videotaperetro1126 yes, found it in the meanwhile. Thanks anyway!
Question! Please tell me in what program and through what devices do you make the convention? Very good quality!
Hello, thank you for your comment. I've already been asked this question and answered in another video of mine. You can read the comments here, the answer is there.
ruclips.net/video/vWKcxNrmTIc/видео.html
If you have any questions, let me know.
Gta sa
Anybody have the Mission District?
What kind of video capture card did you use? I bought one for around $50 but it’s not nearly as good as this!
Hi, I am using an AJA KONA LHi (bought second hand for $ 100). But it's not the capture card that makes all the difference. How you handle video in post, noise reduction, deinterlacing, upscaling ... You can make the difference there. A super VHS or Hi8 recorder with TBC is also a must. Capture in uncompressed 10bit 422 color space, not in a bad codec like MPEG-2 or h264 (mp4)!
@@videotaperetro1126 Thanks a lot!
@@videotaperetro1126 I also think the fact that you're using a high end camcorder back then really helps the quality.
How did you enhance the video? Looks so HD.
Brett C how do you do this? What software can I use?
Hello, sorry some late answer but here it is ...
You will need to learn Vapousynth and FFmpeg and some other tools.
Vapouynth: github.com/theChaosCoder/vapoursynth-portable-FATPACK/releases
FFmpeg: www.gyan.dev/ffmpeg/builds/
and optionally: www.selur.de/downloads
Something for Christmas I think .. You can always ask me questions.
@@videotaperetro1126 Hello! Thanks for reply. I ordered the V5000 camera... you can see my footage on my channel. Im trying to get the quality you have. I use a mac and premier pro though....
@@AllenMichael Hi, ffmpeg should work on a mac. Its open source and available for every os. I don't know about vapoursynth. Its also open source written in python, so normaly this should work, however many libraries are dll's specific for Windows... So you should chech the website.
Hi, can you recommend a Hi8 camera that makes similar videos as the V5000/6000 but is more portable and you don't have to carry it on your shoulder? The other Hi8 cams I see on RUclips don't take such soft colorful smoothe pictures and all have such a hard sharp aesthetic.
Hello, thank you in advance for watching my videos. I understand your question. My answer may be a bit disappointing, but it is less about the camera and more about the way in which digitization is done. Digitizing SD PAL or NTSC video here on RUclips usually looks bad and that is what you see. The V5000/6000 was just an ordinary consumer camera with a ton of options, which is why it had the PRO label on it. The best HI8 Amateur camera ever made that you should not carry on your shoulder is the Sony VX1 (PAL) or the Sony VX3 (NTSC). If you can still find it, buy it immediately! The best true PRO Hi8 stuff ever made is the EVV-9000 backend for broadcast cameras and the EVW-300 one-piece camera. Can I ask what you're going to do with it?
Thanks for the answer. Not disappointing at all, but surprising. So I don't need a pro Monster sized camera. Im making short movies for myself i don't like that digital Look nor pseudoanalog look. So a cam from the ccd-trv series would also archive a similar look, when its digitized and postproducted the right way?
@@Prismit-m7v Yes definitely. They are single sensor cameras and at that time bayer sensor colors were not so natural because of the limited number of photo sites (pixels). That's why I suggested the 3CCD VX1 or VX3. Digitizing in the right way and in high quality is the most important thing. That will make the difference. Just keep in mind that those handycams are very light have no stabilization and thus make very shaky images. Hence ammateurs liked to have a heavier shoulder camera myself included.
Does your digitization/workflow have a specific name or can you perhaps give me a link to a tutorial?
@@Prismit-m7v Now you open Pandoa's box. I have explained this in several other RUclips videos in the comments. Over time I have made some adjustments. I have chosen this completely myself, so it is my personal preference. I wanted the maximum quality and not the easiest, cheapest and fastest. Anyway, here's a summary:
Playback of videos on professional equipment.
for VHS/Super VHS Panasonic AG-7750
for Video 8/Hi8 Sony EVO-9700P or EVO-9850
for Umatic Sony VO-9850
for Betacam Sony BVW-70 or PVW-2800
for M II format (not so common) PANASONIC MII - AU-W35H
I have other High end consumer recorders...
Analog output from s-video or component recorders (certainly not a composite) to Datavideo SE-800 mixer only for frame buffering.
Digital SDI output from SE-800 to Blackmagic Design UltraStudio Recorder 3G.
Capture in uncompressed 10bit 422 color space with ffmpeg (also possible in lossless ffv1 codec) or blackmagic software or OBS studio.
Post-production in Davinci resolve (licensed version) Deinterlacing with davinci resolve neural engine, noise reduction and corrections. Upscale (4k) in Davinci Resolve with superscale. Output in Davinci Resolve in uncompressed 10bit 422 or sometimes DNxHR. Alternative: Deinterlace with QTGMC via vapoursynth via Hybrid video. (www.selur.de/) also upscale via Hybrid video with NNEDI3 method. Encoding with ffmpeg (Hybrid video) with H264 or H265 in 10bit 422 colorspace -superslow -constant rate -16 quantization factor. Upload to youtube. I did capturing before with my AJA Kona LHI in an old Mac computer.
I know this is overwhelming when you hear this, but it also took me a while to arrive at this method.
Hi, Is there a chance of support with what I am trying to achieve. I have many Hi8 tapes waiting to be digitized and also I'm planning to keep using analogue camcorder in the future. The camera I used for recording was Sony ccd-tr728e. I really want to obtain best possible footage with what I already have which is: Sony evo-9700p player, Datavideo se-800, Ultrastudio Recorder 3g. DaVinci resolve studio, OBS. I'm not familiar with ffmpeg atm... S-video from 9700 to se-800. Digital sdi from se-800 to recorder 3g. Thunderbolt 3g to PC windows10. Capturing in OBS, rendering in Resolve. That's how I tried so far. I've spent days figuring out and trying different settings to get satisfied results. With your knowledge and experience it may probably take few minutes creating best workflow. The Outcome of videos 1080 hd or 4k if possible. All for personal home use(monitor /TV)
Hello, you are already well informed and your workflow is not bad either. The EVO-9700P (I also have one) does not have a line TBC and that is something you are missing. I have an EVO-9850P. The image is much more stable with a Line TBC. Maybe get a digital 8 camcorder that can play hi8 and also have a TBC. Do you have davinci resolve with license? I recommend that, the free version lacks important options.
1. Capture certainly in uncompressed 10 bit 422 color space.
2. Import into DVR, set 720x576 PAL and enable interlaced processing.
3. set Deinterlaced quality in image scaling on DaVinci Neural Engine
4. Go to Clip Attributes and set from Auto to Full. This is necessary but requires a long explanation.
5. Do noise reduction with Temporal NR. (license version)
6. Definitely do not choose H264 or H265 for export. Afterwards, this could be done much better in a different way. either output uncompressed 10 bit 422 or prores hq or similar.
7. Optionally choose upscale with DVR superscale (x4)(license version).
8. install hybrid video. and ask for an explanation again. This would be too much now. here you will encode in h264 or h265.
If you choose not to deinterlace and upscale in DVR, things are different. Just let us know what you want.
@@videotaperetro1126 Hi! Thank you for responding. It means a lot.
I'm going to start from top to bottom. Currently I can't see any EVO-9850 on the market.. What about TBC at SE-800? On page 7 Manual says:
"The SE-800 has a full frame synchronizer (also known as a time base corrector or TBC) at its Main and Sub
Source inputs (2 total) to insure switches without distortion and smooth, well-regulated video at its output. In
addition to its digital memory, a TBC also has controls that affect the look of the video that passes through it."
OK, I'm not sure how much of a "full frame" TBC he does have but there must be some kind? Also recently I've noticed that there's different types of SE-800 available.. The one I own does have 3x SDI Digital output. I came across other SE-800 with only one digital output and it looked more like kind of DV port, but there was no SDI at all. Also the difference was with the sliders at the front panel "bottom left side". My does have
Main, VCR, MUSIC, MIC/AUX. The other SE-800 I saw had MASTER, VIDEO,
AUX-1, AUX-2/mic. I wonder if there's any difference between these two with internal components including TBC itself...
I'm sure that there's some TBC devices which stabilising video really nicely. You mentioned about digital8 camcorders... I wonder if there's a big difference in video quality and colour reproduction comparing EVO-9700p+ SE800 vs Digital8 camcorder. Probably Digital8 camcorder footage will be more stabile... but what about the rest?
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2nd message on its way
When it comes to capturing the video...
I use OBS studio and DaVinci licensed full version.
Responding to your points...
1. 16 bit 422 or 10 bit 420... and others, but there's no 10 bit 422 option.
Unless I am doing something wrong..
What about "container format" in Settings/output/recording?
"video bitrate"?
I'm guessing I should set 50fps while capturing in OBS and also 50fps in Davinci? or? Sorry for such questions, I just want to be sure that all is set correctly.
2. While I'm still in OBS in "Properties for Blackmagic Devices"...
"Mode" is set to 625i50 PAL, and I believe that's my camcorder output.
Should I still "set 720x576 PAL" in DVR?
3,4,5,6,7. Done
8. I haven't tried yet, but I will. Same with ffmpeg. I do have it but I didn't touch it. I already spent days trying to absorb much as I can..
Hybrid video and ffmpeg will be my next step.
@@Michal12340 Hi Michal (I don't know if that is your name) What a "TBC" is is the subject of many discussions in many forums that deal with digitizing video tape. A lot of nonsense is told, but sometimes also correct information. Actually it's quite simple. There is a "LINE TBC" and a "FRAME BUFFER TBC". Due to the mechanical aspect in video playback, the speed variations in transport of the tape and the speed variations in the rotation of the video head, not all scan lines of PAL or NTSC video last the same length. In principle, one PAL scan line lasts 64 µs. In addition, all scanlines must start at the same time. All this is determined by sync pulses of one scan line, and therefore 625 scan lines for one full frame in PAL (interlacing is not taken into account in this explanation, but it should actually be) Because due to this variation not all lines have the same duration and they are not on starting at the same time, you will see wobbling lines in the image from left to right and vice versa. Those are "time base" errors. A "LINE TBC" will correct these errors. It will ensure that all lines start at the same time and last the same length and adds newly generated sync pulses to each scan line. This can be a simple analog "LINE TBC" to a modern digital "LINE TBC". Video recorders with a TBC have this "LINE TBC" and therefore correct these errors. From consumer VHS (or other) recorders to professional Betacam SP or other professional systems.
"FRAME BUFFER TBC" is a TBC that only digitizes a complete frame without looking at the scan lines separately, so it takes over all "LINE TBC" errors and puts them in a buffer. Then the sync pulses are removed like a "LINE TBC" does and new ones are added. You have now also created a worthy broadcast level video signal without solving the "LINE TBC" errors. That's what the SE-800 does. Basically to be able to mix 2 (or more) unsynchronized video sources. In addition, the SE-800 also solves dropouts and other errors in your video because it actually generates a new video signal. So a combination of first a LINE TBC" and then a "FRAME BUFFER" TBC is desirable. Our great fortune is that the SE-800 outputs this digital signal via an SDI output and thus avoids having to digitize again via a card such as eg the KONA LHI from AJA. I am going to give a second answer for the other questions.
@@Michal12340 The 3 SDI connections you see on the SE-800 are: one direct SDI output that you must use. one SDI input to be able to "overlay" with another SDI source. one SDI output that has the mix of the 2. Don't worry about the last 2. The SE-800 also has a DV output (and inputs) (8 bit 4:2:0 color space 1/5 compression). But we don't use that. I don't know the type you mention without the SDI, but as far as "FRAME BUFFER TBC" is concerned, all are the same. (Every consumer video mixer of any brand is a "FRAME BUFFER TBC". The SE-800 also has an analog "black burst" just google what that is for, otherwise it will be too much here. There is a mixer that also has a " LINE TBC" and that is the Videonix MX1, mind you, this is a big exception. (Sony also had one but can't remember the type anymore) So if you use this behind your EVO-9700 then your video is perfectly stabilized. This of course it has no digital output, so you still have to digitize it yourself.
This looks great. Really great. Do you mind describing your workflow a bit better? I mean, do you connect the camera directly to your PC, and if so, how? Or is this footage taken directly from the CamCorder or VHS. you know, stuff like that. I am sure a lot of people would appreciate you telling us how you "did it", ha ha. Thanks.
Just a little more patience. I don't have much time at the moment. I have already explained this several times in the comments of my other videos.
@@videotaperetro1126 I check them out, didn't know that. Thanks.