I can understand the list you have. I wouldn't be upset if the Pistons took any of the players you listed. With this draft the only player expected to go top-2 is Sarr. As of today, Sarr is the only player that would shock me if he's there at #5. Looking at the Pelicans, where Trajan Langdon served as GM, and their affinity for tall lengthy wings I would venture a guess more like this as a draft target list. Risacher, Holland, Buzelis, Williams with the assumption Sarr is off the board. I also expect whomever is drafted to come off the bench their rookie season. Adding shooters around Cade will happen by signing some FA targets or trading with cap strapped team.
Reed shepherd is a good pick because on defense he can guard the other teams main ball handler and then they can kinda hide Cade on defense like the Mavs do by having Ausar guard the next best player. On offense Reed can be a good spot up shooter and secondary ball handler.
I'm right there with you on Risacher and Reed for my Pistons big board. I like Clingan but I'm not sure if I'd take him as much as I'd try and use it to trade back and take someone like Cody Williams.
I keep hearing people say what you just said. Beef Stew is shooting great from deep, BUT, people still aren't respecting it, so it isn't providing the spacing yet. Wait a minute, how is that considered, "advantage defense" when they are not getting out on a guy who is shooting a good percentage. Isn't that "advantage offense"?? Isn't that what you would prefer to happen, that they don't close out fast enough on our good shooters? Who cares about spacing for 2's if you are getting room to knock down 3's at a good clip. My 2 cents anyway.
That would require a PG willing to pass to an open shooter. I don't understand the Stew hate. Best I can guess people don't realize how much value his shooting provides because he doesn't score 20 ppg.
Stew would be an advantage on offense if he was hitting 3s on volume. He doesn't help guys anyone else on the offense hitting less than 2 3s a game. He can shoot 100% from 3 and nobody will care if he only hits 2 a game. I'm a huge fan of Stew but this is the reason he is still a negative offensive player.
@@user-bj2ug1cy9myou're absolutely correct but why is he only taking a couple most games, is it him being too hesitant or is it the ball handler not giving up the ball? Personally I've seen a good amount of both
No, that's stupid. Never in a million years could Duren play power forward next to another non-shooter. Have you never watched even a single basketball game? Edey is more of a UDFA type as a low-minutes Boban impersonator.
Good discussion. As you say, shopping the pick is probably option one. Every pick has some glaring flaws but also positives. I think you have it about right 👌
@@pheralanpathfinder4897 compared to draft offers, Tidjane looks just as the rest… Media Usually makes fans think what ever they choose, especially with these AAU players. For this team TIDJANE looks perfect for This NEW NBA and this Pistons team..
@@cube22100 Shooting still needs work. Not as crazy athletic as Matas. Limited passing skills. Interesting potential but others have either a higher ceiling or a higher floor.
No Klingan. He’s not a low post threat. We the Pistons need Zach Edey. Low post threat and defense. Detroit Basketball!!!!! No small ball. Cade is our point swing and Asar is our defensive wing. We don’t have room for all these Centers and wings to even play. And what wing will change the team? None. If we are gonna win it’s Edey with Cade and Ivey. Nothing else makes real sense. It’s not I like this player so let’s get him. It’s does he pull us out the losing we’ve been in. Zach Edey is the answer. Most would rather believe a lie than face the truth when it’s in your face. Traditional basketball 1 2 punch. It’s that simple. Try to complicate pistons situation adding and dropping wings every year. It’s the low post we haven’t had that. And That’s Cades game. Not a rim running big fella. But a legit threat. That’s only Zach Edey. I can see us next yr If we don’t get him. Someone gets him in the east. Now that’s one more 7 footer that’s gonna bully us. What are y’all thinking. I don’t think you all played basketball or know what and how the game of basketball is played. Zach is a beast but y’all trying to draft poodles and shitzu’s. Lol little bite but nothing to a beast. Cmon let’s not keep trying to chicken wing us up.
I just want Pistons esc players man. Most of these guys on our roster don't embody Detroit Basketball to me. And to be honest, none of the guys in the top 10 of this draft fit that mold as well. We need to start drafting for identity instead of just raw potential because that's how we got here in the first place. Tyler Smith, Jaylon Tyson, DaRon Holmes II, Tyler Kolek, Tristan DaSilva, and Devin Carter are all Detroit guys imo. You can convince me on Ron Holland but the shooting isn't there and having two non-shooters in Ausar and Holland is asking for a lot UNLESS he spends a lot of time in the G-League perfecting that shot.
Wait, wut? You don't want raw potential and then you list Tyler Smith, the kid who is probably several years away from being playable on defense? Make it make sense.
Probably but they were rumored to want to draft Clingan prior to the lottery. Will they reach? Rocket and Spurs could both go for a PG. It's a long shot but if Risacher has to be our first choice.
@@pheralanpathfinder4897 I have no doubt that Castle will be very good in the league, I just feel like you can find another guy already in the league like Castle. There’s not many 7’2 big men that can be mobile, have high iq,have a soft touch and is a proven winner like Clingan.
@@2KVS I know the media has been hyping Clingan as a top ten pick but I don't see the speed required to be an elite defender. His soft touch is also a reminder that he hasn't ever made shots when not in the paint. If he had a history of being a shooter we would be hearing stories about him being a good shooter in high school like Matas Buzelus. A defensive specialist in this draft isn't crazy but they can easily be signed for mid level money. If Castle learns to shoot NBA threes he could be special. And Castle actually has a history of making shots.
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I can understand the list you have. I wouldn't be upset if the Pistons took any of the players you listed. With this draft the only player expected to go top-2 is Sarr. As of today, Sarr is the only player that would shock me if he's there at #5.
Looking at the Pelicans, where Trajan Langdon served as GM, and their affinity for tall lengthy wings I would venture a guess more like this as a draft target list. Risacher, Holland, Buzelis, Williams with the assumption Sarr is off the board. I also expect whomever is drafted to come off the bench their rookie season.
Adding shooters around Cade will happen by signing some FA targets or trading with cap strapped team.
Reed shepherd is a good pick because on defense he can guard the other teams main ball handler and then they can kinda hide Cade on defense like the Mavs do by having Ausar guard the next best player. On offense Reed can be a good spot up shooter and secondary ball handler.
I'm right there with you on Risacher and Reed for my Pistons big board. I like Clingan but I'm not sure if I'd take him as much as I'd try and use it to trade back and take someone like Cody Williams.
I keep hearing people say what you just said. Beef Stew is shooting great from deep, BUT, people still aren't respecting it, so it isn't providing the spacing yet. Wait a minute, how is that considered, "advantage defense" when they are not getting out on a guy who is shooting a good percentage. Isn't that "advantage offense"?? Isn't that what you would prefer to happen, that they don't close out fast enough on our good shooters? Who cares about spacing for 2's if you are getting room to knock down 3's at a good clip. My 2 cents anyway.
That would require a PG willing to pass to an open shooter.
I don't understand the Stew hate. Best I can guess people don't realize how much value his shooting provides because he doesn't score 20 ppg.
Stew would be an advantage on offense if he was hitting 3s on volume. He doesn't help guys anyone else on the offense hitting less than 2 3s a game. He can shoot 100% from 3 and nobody will care if he only hits 2 a game. I'm a huge fan of Stew but this is the reason he is still a negative offensive player.
@@user-bj2ug1cy9myou're absolutely correct but why is he only taking a couple most games, is it him being too hesitant or is it the ball handler not giving up the ball? Personally I've seen a good amount of both
Zack Eddy, he will put a body on people and eventually give you 20+/12/2. Put Duren at PF, if not then package him in a trade.
No, that's stupid. Never in a million years could Duren play power forward next to another non-shooter. Have you never watched even a single basketball game?
Edey is more of a UDFA type as a low-minutes Boban impersonator.
Good discussion. As you say, shopping the pick is probably option one. Every pick has some glaring flaws but also positives. I think you have it about right 👌
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You watch much NBL Jack? Any thoughts on Bobi Klintman out of Cairns? Similar archetype to Buzelis and Risacher. Could be value if we trade back
On point. Clingan still great pick and get wings in agency to lock up center position at all times having a stud on the court for lob threat.
Is Clingan better than Duren?
Do we really want to invest in another center who can't shoot?
@@pheralanpathfinder4897 Probably better, IMO. They certainly wouldn't need both.
Also Dalton Knect is 6'5 1/4 without shoes. So he's closer to 6'7 with shoes just something to note.
I like Tidjane Salaun… Size, shooting, engine, IQ. He needs better defense, but only 18… 💯
Great option if we trade back. I think he's a reach at 5 but we could do worse.
@@pheralanpathfinder4897 compared to draft offers, Tidjane looks just as the rest… Media Usually makes fans think what ever they choose, especially with these AAU players. For this team TIDJANE looks perfect for This NEW NBA and this Pistons team..
@@cube22100 Shooting still needs work. Not as crazy athletic as Matas. Limited passing skills.
Interesting potential but others have either a higher ceiling or a higher floor.
@@pheralanpathfinder4897 Have you even looked at TIDJANE..??! The kid drops buckets everywhere and 6’10”… 🙇🏾♂️🙇🏾♂️👨🏾🏫
@@pheralanpathfinder4897 Salaun? Definitely more athletic than Matas, that's basically the whole pitch.
No Klingan. He’s not a low post threat. We the Pistons need Zach Edey. Low post threat and defense. Detroit Basketball!!!!! No small ball. Cade is our point swing and Asar is our defensive wing. We don’t have room for all these Centers and wings to even play. And what wing will change the team? None. If we are gonna win it’s Edey with Cade and Ivey. Nothing else makes real sense. It’s not I like this player so let’s get him. It’s does he pull us out the losing we’ve been in. Zach Edey is the answer. Most would rather believe a lie than face the truth when it’s in your face. Traditional basketball 1 2 punch. It’s that simple. Try to complicate pistons situation adding and dropping wings every year. It’s the low post we haven’t had that. And That’s Cades game. Not a rim running big fella. But a legit threat. That’s only Zach Edey. I can see us next yr If we don’t get him. Someone gets him in the east. Now that’s one more 7 footer that’s gonna bully us. What are y’all thinking. I don’t think you all played basketball or know what and how the game of basketball is played. Zach is a beast but y’all trying to draft poodles and shitzu’s. Lol little bite but nothing to a beast. Cmon let’s not keep trying to chicken wing us up.
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*Whispers* "Kel'el Ware"...if we can not get Shepard...or Knecht
I would select Dalton Knecht but I believe that Detroit will select Matas Buzelis.
Ron Holland or Cody Williams
Daron Holmes2 ,hear me out , he's good
Stretch big , hustle defender
@@alandetroit1064 I like him a lot, but I wouldn't take him at 5.
I feel he's better than some of these fellas, who would you rather?
One of my favorite prospects as well. Could see him if we trade back into the first round as a Stew Replacement
@@gameknotz3602 A Stew replacement is one of the very few things they DON'T need.
I just want Pistons esc players man. Most of these guys on our roster don't embody Detroit Basketball to me. And to be honest, none of the guys in the top 10 of this draft fit that mold as well. We need to start drafting for identity instead of just raw potential because that's how we got here in the first place. Tyler Smith, Jaylon Tyson, DaRon Holmes II, Tyler Kolek, Tristan DaSilva, and Devin Carter are all Detroit guys imo. You can convince me on Ron Holland but the shooting isn't there and having two non-shooters in Ausar and Holland is asking for a lot UNLESS he spends a lot of time in the G-League perfecting that shot.
Wait, wut? You don't want raw potential and then you list Tyler Smith, the kid who is probably several years away from being playable on defense? Make it make sense.
Risarcher, Knect, Salaun or Reed (maybe? undersized will struggle creating off the dribble). In that order.
Wizards selecting Zaccharie Risacher/Alex Sarr at #2. Whoever Atlanta does not choose.
Probably but they were rumored to want to draft Clingan prior to the lottery. Will they reach?
Rocket and Spurs could both go for a PG.
It's a long shot but if Risacher has to be our first choice.
Dalton Kinecte
No.
Sarr will be gone; I'm hoping at least one of Holland/Sheppard/Risacher is still available.
Holland will be available. Shepard has a good chance.
After Risacher Shepard is the shooter with the most upside.
Draft Clingan. We need winners and rim protection.
Why not Castle?
Long athletic PG with excellent defense. While his 3% isn't good it's still a much better bet than Clingan.
@@pheralanpathfinder4897 I have no doubt that Castle will be very good in the league, I just feel like you can find another guy already in the league like Castle. There’s not many 7’2 big men that can be mobile, have high iq,have a soft touch and is a proven winner like Clingan.
@@2KVS I know the media has been hyping Clingan as a top ten pick but I don't see the speed required to be an elite defender. His soft touch is also a reminder that he hasn't ever made shots when not in the paint. If he had a history of being a shooter we would be hearing stories about him being a good shooter in high school like Matas Buzelus.
A defensive specialist in this draft isn't crazy but they can easily be signed for mid level money.
If Castle learns to shoot NBA threes he could be special. And Castle actually has a history of making shots.
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