Simon Jordan Defends His Criticism of Harry Maguire Amid Gareth Southgate's Media Swipe 👀😡
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2023
- Is Harry Maguire treated unfairly by Manchester United and England fans? talkSPORT's Jim White, Simon Jordan and Danny Murphy discuss.
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Don't hate Maguire for getting called up and making mistakes hate Southgate for allowing this comedy act to continue happening
Exactly this.
Nothing to do with hate' just tell the truth about both of them
Well said 👏🏻
Facts
Maguire is the worst CB in the league.
His last three goals have been own goals. That isn't "scapegoating" he's just bad at his job.
A goal is a goal.
You got one job: put the ball in the back of the net.
If this is true that’s hilarious 😂
I wish i was a millionaire and bad at my job
This is so not true, leave him alone, he’s trying his hardest
It's not a section of Manchester United fans, it's virtually all Manchester United fans who want Harry Maguire to leave Old Trafford. Just watching him come on as substitute at Arsenal, after four injuries ruled out better centre-halves (Varane, Martinez, Lindelhof, Shaw), is enough to send nervous fear into all of us, and it was zero surprise to anyone that he stood like a bag of cement while Declan Rice took his time to hammer in the winning goal. Why he chose to stay, after being offered a move to West Ham, is a complete mystery, perhaps explained by his arrogance and greed. That Southgate put him on in the second half of a friendly, to avoid having to put on Colwill, who would quickly expose how poor Maguire is, probably tells us all we need to know about how poor a manager Southgate is.
"it was zero surprise to anyone that he stood like a bag of cement while Declan Rice took his time to hammer in the winning goal"
Gobsmackingly poor to stand there and not close with that much time to move, doubly so because he does not have the excuse that there was someone near him to he needed to cover. I would expect better from an average high school CB.
He wanted more money from West Ham, something in his deluded mind told him he’s a 190k a week player and not 120k a week
@@sohailhussain9662 if only he took the 30 mil. He could have accepted a loan offer at least.
@@sohailhussain9662 the mrs mate! lol
Well said Andy, playing the carthorse is like playing with 10 men , he's atrocious, he get a lot of money to perform and is a liability , I don't know any united fans who want him
Pundits protecting Maguire is why so many fans call him out so much. Also didn't Southgate play alongside Beckham when he was having effigies of him hung and burnt. Do me a favour. Maguire is rightly criticised due to his performances and his attitude in interviews
Aside from Simon jordan, Roy Keane is the only other pundit I can think of that criticises maguire, and Roy Keane whatever you think of him, doesn’t hold back.
So what. Southgate would be criticised for dropping McGuire and having no backbone by the same cowardly racists slagging him now.
Southgate has solidified why he's a tool. To call everyone idiots for having a legitimate criticism of Maguire will come back to haunt him. Yes the abuse and ridicule of to Maguire is not cool but the reason for receiving criticism is he's been appalling for the last 2 years. There's a reason Ten Hag wants him out of Manchester United.
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The racists are still out for Southgate it seems. Bless them. But especially their abused kids.
@@r_ewusie its not unfair . Dude would not make it that far if he was black .
I feel like as fans most of the media is gaslighting us. We saw week-in, week-out his subpar performances for United, the fact he can’t play like a modern-day CB (out from the back, quick turns, forward passing, good pace to track back etc), he’s fifth choice centre-back (including being behind a left back in the queue).
There is also evidence of his arrogance (“there’s a reason why managers keep picking me for United”, “I have nothing to prove” and , most recently, rejecting a move to West Ham where he would be starting CB (I think captain as well). He doesn’t deserve abuse, but at the same time he shouldn’t be given a pass to avoid criticism, and has brought a lot of the criticism on himself. Not all of it, but most. Yet the media speak as if there’s an unjustifiable hate campaign against a mercurial talent. “He plays well for England”. Wasn’t his last (not own) goal for England vs Andorra? And Panama before that? I don’t understand it
What a fantastic analysis of the situation.
The fact is he is a decent defender in the right system, unfortunately United and England don't play that system.
He should definitely have left United and tried somewhere new where the pressure wouldn't be as great.
As muchj as he makes mistakes pointless booing etc isn't big or clever it's bullying plain and simple.
all correct apart from starting for west ham. I really think that's debatable. On talent he'd be miles behind Aguerd, Zouma and Kehrer. The only reason he'd have ever started above two of those would be solely because he's arrived for a fair bit of money and would have been a high earner. I think even a dumbo like Maguire probably realised that he'd have been on the west ham bench by the end of the season. Rather like lingard couldn't get a game at forest
@@ajc1482so you are saying he should leave United and stop playing for England or both teams should play 6 at the back to accommodate Maguire 😂😂...man you are kidding right?
West Ham not signing Maguire is the best piece of transfer business we did this season.
I always hear pundits talking bad about Antony, Pogba, Bruno, and Martial about how awful their attitude, performances not good enough and how they never lived up to their price tags. The strange thing is none of them came out to defend them but they always defend Maguire when he has never had a good performance, and never lived up to the price tag. It's always the unfair criticism and abuse when it comes to Maguire. This guy never had a man of the match performance or selected as contender of any kind of good performances. Maguire is UTD biggest PL flop but you won't see it on the media but you will see articles about Pogba or Martial labeled as flops . It's disgusting how they treat players who don't have British passports.
Spot on! I find it sad that the British media is begging fans to like Maguire. I don’t dislike him, he’s just not a United player. Not good enough and doesn’t want to better his career by leaving. He’s now a national meme!
It funny how they blame utd fans on Maguire but they never defended players who were victims of the same "Utd Fans" in Pogba Martial and Bruno no British pundet has came out to defend them.
Bingo! Pogba never hit the heights but he was never uniteds worst performer, martial is injured after injured, Bruno has shown greatness in a United shirt a lot. Maguire has none of those excuses, often uniteds culprit, not disrupted by injuries, and never shown anything amazing at united. I don’t get the defence of him.
Well said. cherry picking having a go at those foreigners but yet Maguire who is truly awful get those guys defending him ... Southgate is a disgrace for this charade Maguire is the worse player i have ever seen and yet they keep lying to him instead of accepting the criticism and work with him.
non of the others are lgbtq+ community
I don’t actually think England fans are necessarily booing Maguire himself, I think the boo’s are actually aimed at Southgate and the choice to put him on
This is squarely on Southgate, he's not playing for his club because his manager doesn't rate him, but somehow still getting picked regularly for England, It's a ridiculous situation. As long as he stays at man Utd and Southgate keeps on picking him and playing him, this will only get worse for him.
It's both. How and why tf are we creating new protective narratives for such a poor player. Why is honesty not allowed?
It’s not Arry’s fault he gets picked
@@barrymaguire1228 Which is why I said it's on Southgate.
His fellow England team mates respect Mcguire , that's the important thing
@@barrymaguire1228but it is his fault he accepts the call up. He could easily call southgate and say, “you know, I think you should call someone else up for this FRIENDLY. I haven’t played much football lately and my head isn’t in the right place right now.” But he doesn’t. You can’t complain about being thrown to the wolves if you’re the one rubbing gravy on yourself and jumping into the wolves den.
I think Southgate sees a lot of himself in harry Maguire and that is the reason he picks him. Not the kind of objective rational thinking that is needed to be an elite manager
Clear cut analysis
He does see himself in Harry maguire
Match made in heaven
They understand each other
exactly...Southgate played scared and he manages scared...his flaws as a manager are being hidden because he has such great players available to him! Southgate is remember for costing England in major tournament game for missing penalty and may just be the same when the team fail to win anything because he has no balls!
Our best ever manager despite hatred from the bagheads and the racists. Love it!!
The maddest thing is i feel like Southgate was actually a better defender then maguire 😂
100%
The guy takes home 1mil a month for kicking a ball.......the fans who are booing him earn less in a year than he does in a day.......of course they have a right to give him stick if plays badly..... if you want to feel sorry for somebody save it for those who work their arses off trying to put food on the table for their family.....
I have never seen a manager defend a player who simply isn't good enough so much in my life. He's not been playing for 18 months, while other players who are playing regularly are being demoted to spectators. Harry Maguire is simply not good enough and it's completely fair analysis to point it out.
Southgate bears responsibility for this. Why bring him on in a friendly, 2-0 up, when he’d played on Tuesday? It’s stubborn nonsense. Why no minutes for the young CBs in the squad? So next game he can say “we’ve got no experienced options”. Gareth Southgate is a clown.
Exactly. Why not play Colwill the LCB? Or Tomoyi who he always ignores. It's cause he knows he will be proved wrong.
Southgate just another manager helping the team not to be successful and win trophies at this point. It’s madness with the talent we have… Southgate is more focused in showing the world that he can help Maguire get better and prove everyone else wrong rather than using the best starting 11. Give this team to Klopp or Pep so we can win a trophy while possible ffs
He's just not good enough. Simple as that. He had the chance to go to West Ham and have a fresh start but he said no to sit on United's bench for more money. It's on him now.
Maguire could literally retire from club football at this point and Southgate would still pick him
@@poopnukem4079 exactly. If he plays 5 games for Man United between now and the euros he's in the squad guaranteed and probably starting too. Its a joke
It's ridiculous, if anyone else was managing the England national team, he'd be in West Ham by now.
@@ryanhindley174he has to start him if he's in the squad, or else it becomes a circus. He should be nowhere near the squad tbh, until he's playing regularly and playing well
@@ste4392 dunk, tomori, guehi, stones all far ahead. Probably others I'm forgetting
Maguire is worth his place in the England side because of the entertainment value he brings.The guy is pure comedy gold.
The critics weren't out in force because McGuire scored an own goal, they were out way before that because he shouldn't be anywhere near the England team.
Don't forget the man had the audacity to say Harry Maguire had a positive impact on our win. Absolutely wild
Well in fairness he did... for Scotland
@@darthpepe2994The fact I was cracking up laughing that they nearly made it 2-2 rather than being pissed off about it should show people what a joke it is because I know I weren't the only one
“Positive impact” - we are positive he cost England a goal
@@007feck Atleast Maguire can can say the lads who started CB yesterday didn't get a clean sheet 😂🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂😂
The most protected footballer in the world - Harry Maguire
Protected by Gareth Southgate only!!!! Not sure with the English FA
I am really getting sick of this myth that Maguire is a good player. How long does a player have to be poor before people accept what he is?
Maguire came on, played a few simple passes and scored an own goal. Does that equate to a 'brilliant' performance as Danny Murphy claims??
Same with the World Cup froze like a statue when giroud scored
@@sohailhussain9662everyone forgot about that far too quickly. And his performance against Germany last year too.
Danny just can't admit the lad ain't up to it
he really said anyone’s allowed to struggle and play badly.. lol
Maguire is the gift that keeps on giving ...
I find it funny he called Wilson and Nketiah and only gave one of them 6 mins after Kane got the 3rd goal and game was over. I get not taking chances in the qualifier. But surely the friendly was a chance to look at guys like Colwill, Tamori, Wilson, nketiah and eze?
If a player constantly costs my team points I will be booing him too. Booing is a voice from fans asking the manager to drop the player because of his incompetency. People forget that he was fan favorite during the Euros because he was performing well. He started performing terribly for Man United and kept making mistakes after mistakes.
Ten Hag doesn't even play him, that should tell you all you need to know that one of the most expensive signings in Man Utd doesn't get game time, but somehow is picked for England.
This is solely Southgate's fault for both including him in the squad in the first place, then bringing him on in a friendly game that was already won and not giving other fresh players a chance. Then, presumably just to make Maguire feel better, gave him the captain armband after the OG before defending him post match. It's borderline favoritism at this point and if I was Tomori or Colwil I'd be fuming today.
One hundred percent and if they're willing to take the praise they better be damn ready to take the criticism aswell.
He gets ridiculed because southgate choses him when he shouldnt
It isn’t about the own goal, that can happen to anyone. Safegate said he has no favourites and will only pick players on club form. Maguire can’t even get in an average Man Utd team
' Stalwart' when Southgate said that I laughed and spat out my drink lol 😅
The manager is to blame. Note just for picking a player who doesnt deserve to be selected, but for continuing to throw him into the line of fire. He’s out of form, lacking match fitness/sharpness, and completely void of confidence. As such, he’s error prone; own goal this week, lead to a goal being conceded last week, etc. It’s the managers fault; the fans can see all of this, and are getting increasingly frustrated at his continued selection
I don't think Maguire is out of form. He just isn't good enough.
Ben white has entered the chat.
And honestly if grown men can't handle negative opinions about them then don't get a job where you're in the public eye, not our problem.
Well said
Maguire had the chance to take all the heat off himself by going to West Ham and rebooting his career. Instead he refused to go and demanded 10 million payout. He is a ridiculously overpaid player doing a terrible job and deserves the criticism like anyone on a high salary failing badly should
So he should leave his money because I don't like him? Seriously?
@@chineduogechi5937 he’s entitled to his money but he should stop crying about being criticised for his horrific form
@@chineduogechi5937Are you minding the useless entitled man United fans. I support Maguire 💯 for refusing to leave man United expecially the way ETH has treated him and the United fans. United and ETH want to take advantage of maguire. They insult him and boo him and still want him to do them favours. They don't want him so he should be paid every penny and let him leave. It's as simple as that.
@@Rajziks or maybe he realised that West Ham has better defenders as well and bottled the challenge. His selection can’t be justified if we were to go by his inability to play for his club teams when there are other CB’s playing in UCL or younger or more promising for the future.
Let’s face it Southgate is a football terrorist
@@Rajziks he doesn’t want to leave that’s the problem lol. And he deserves to be booed with the way he’s playing. He’s lucky he doesn’t play for real madrid or one of the big Italian clubs cus those guys would turn up at his house
The situation the people have with Maguire sits squarely with Southgate. Everyone's issue is that Southgate constantly picks him and plays him for the national side, over players who are much more deserving. Folks are annoyed because of what Southgate has said in the past, about those picked and that he won't play favourites. He has done exactly that. He continues to pick players such as Maguire, Phillips and now Henderson, over those who merited the call up. When Southgate does then pick a player based on merit, he never plays them. Case in point is Tomori.
If Southgate wants the criticism of Maguire to end, then don't pick him. He's not playing for his club side, so he is undeserving. The same with Phillips. It doesn't matter if they have performed well for the national side in the past.
Well Southgate I remember a certain David Beckham having people booing him all over England and then winning everyone back by getting better and better.
Maguire not Beckham
yeah but during that time beckham was a key player for united and won the treble, whilst a poor man u side were trying their best to get maguire to leave like 3 weeks ago. Not even remotely the same. Beckham was certainly treated too harshly for 1 stupid heat of the moment act.
I don't have anything personally against maguire... people are saying it's not nice how he's been treated, but what about how all the other players he keeps getting picked ahead of are being treated by gareth southgate?
booing was the least of it - his effigy was being burned on bonfires & the media accused him of betrayal after 98
@@edittide9842 no his next move will be scoring a final minute free kick into the top corner in a game we must win to qualify for the euros
@@andrewharrison7767the effigy, we cannot forget the effigy. Todays generation have never seen that sort of hatred.
Maguire has brought all of this on himself.. He hasn't been good enough for Man Utd, and he has been captain until this season. Somehow he remained captain last year when he hardly ever played, he says he has nothing to prove when he clearly does have plenty to prove, he refuses to leave and insists he wants to fight for his place when he is clearly not in Ten Hags plans, he's playing for England at the same time as sitting on the bench at Utd and refusing to move.. He's delusional if he thinks he is good enough for Utd, he never has been, and even more delusional if he thinks Ten Hag or Utd fans think he's good enough for Utd! If he accepted he isn't good enough he could move to a team that suited him more and then he wouldn't get so much cr*p off everyone!
It good e ough for u ited yet you spent 80m on him paid him 150k a week and made him captain for years 😂
@@joeevans4970try again mate
How is maguire remaining captain at the request of managers and united deciding to pay him amounts of money that would sustain his family for generations his fault 🤣 he took the best financial opportunity available to him as any family man would
He doesn't leave ManU because it's a good salary, and he gets paid whether or not he takes the pitch. He has nothing to prove because he knows SouthGate gots his back and will have him on the National team and even start him regardless of his form.
because we're football fans and don't think this way? Also its pretty hard to feel sorry for someone who's earning millions kicking a ball around, while constantly lying about his motivations for not leaving. Youre asking why a spoiled millionaire liar who only cares about money gets hate from mainly working class football fans that use the sport as a vice? Your head must be hollow if you think this was a good argument
“I’ve got nothing to prove” - harry maguire….. everything you need to know about that guy
Southgate blaming pundits for abusing Maguire is nonsense. In fact it’s the pundits that protect him everyday despite the complaints of United fans. And now they’re blaming United fans for not tolerating a “mediocre” player
Tbh i would have rid of Southgate. 1st half excellent but 2nd half played within themselves just like they do when playing in a major tournament. I don't like this 2 holding midfielders when we have a wealth of attacking talent
He turns like an ocean liner…??? Hahaha that’s a good one ….
Simon is right. Southgate wanted too blame the fans but didn’t have the balls
Spot on.
How do you know?
The problem is that he's on £190k a week, with 2 years left on his contract. And United are not prepared to either give him a compensatory payment to leave, or subsidise his wages for those 2 years if he moves to another club. He could've gone to West Ham, who wanted him....but greed meant he did not go. On that kind of money, he'll probably be prepared to see out his United contract IMO, whether benched or not, unless United pay him off to leave. Same with Sancho - the only place United 'd be able to offload him is Saudi Arabia, because (unbelievably) he's on £350k/wk with 3 years left on that United contract, so going anywhere else (like back to Dortmund for example, who are apparently interested) is an impossibility unless United finance the move, either in a lump-sum pay-off, or via a 3-yr wages subsidisation
Murphy just said Maguire did well when he came on... he didnt do anything 😂
When Southgate says his England side is the second most successful in history, what success is he referring to? Because in elite level sport, success is winning, strange that he thinks winning nothing is success
His success also involves defeating zero elite teams in competitive tournaments, except a declining German side, that's it...
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@@Dragonaut111 is he that detached from reality? Jesus
I can answer that for you. They are the second most successful England team in history because the first place for that would be England’s WC win in 1966. Since Euro 2020 is the only other Final England have ever reached, it makes Southgate’s team second place. And this should plainly reveal, to England fans especially, that they are not an elite level team. I’ve seen so many English pundits and fans make fun of Italy for example (every Italy team that’s ever taken the field has been “aging” apparently) but in my 30 year life time I’ve seen Italy play five finals and win a World Cup and a Euro. My father has watched them in 8. Differences.
@@InfiniteDroidArmies yeah that’s a fair point, for me it’s not the talent England lack it’s the bottle, in a similar way to arsenal for comparison, but I feel success is the wrong word to use for England because success is silverware, I get that England don’t reach so many finals so I’d call it an improvement but also anytime they face anyone decent they fall apart
It's got to the point I'm feeling bad for poor Slab. This is really the best he can do, and if employers aren't being real with him and are putting him in situations that show him up, what can he do? He's got kids and a wife, he's not leaving money on the table even if he has to endure shame to get it.
You’re talking like he was offered a tenner a week at west ham 😂
@@rcmains4237not saying he isn't financially-privileged, or that it's right he gets paid that much (imo it's not right, but no-one asked and it's not germane). Just that he probably wants to send his grandkids to private school, like anyone.
There's leaving money on the table and there's being greedy. It's not like he wasn't going to get paid at West Ham. It's clear his agent told him to hold out for a bigger payout and maybe as a person with his own agency he should've told him to sod off and done what was best for him as a footballer. Cause honestly, money runs out. But so does the opportunity to play football so that you can earn money. No one serious is going in for him after this.
United only offered him 6 million out of the 10 million he'd miss out on if he'd moved on. Going from 190k to 100k is a significant drop. It's on United not paying another 4 million. I can't blame someone for not wanting to miss out on millions of pounds.
He's thinking of reinventing himself in Serie A . As ' Slabovich ' 😅
"Ridiculous treatment of him for a long time".. "I've never seen anyone treated like this".... that's an echo of fan sentiment
Never seen a player this protected by the media
Doesn't get much protection on here does he?
I'm beginning to think maguire does it on purpose 😂
Same 😂
He's certainly keeping himself in the conversation
For one night only, he was Harry MacGuire 🏴
I think it’s only Gareth Southgate, his coaching staff and Harry himself that want Maguire playing for England ⚽️
* and England’s opposition
And whatever Saudi oil tycoon is paying for this comedy hoping to make English and European football look a joke..
Maguires that bad I'm actually starting to think there's a conspiracy going on 😂😂
Surprised his teammates aren't wrapping bars of soap up in towels, like in the movie, Full Metal Jacket.
England players will have trouble hiding their true feelings if he costs us in a major tournament.
@@burnaardnufc3173 if he costs us again you mean
@@burnaardnufc3173well he was at fault for Giroud’s goal at the last World Cup if that counts for anything.
So... why does Harry Maguire not go to a team and MANAGER that appreciates him? Maguire decided to sit on the bench and his wages and NOT play football this season. That's not on anyone else than HIM.
He was Scotland's most effective striker last night.
Colwell played with Dunk every game last season......so leave him on the bench and bring on McDonkey....unreal.
At least there is 1 person out there in the media that can not be bought well said simon
When Maguire came out and said he has nothing to prove, after consistently performing way below the level expected of a Man United captain, it really started to build this momentum. It started back in the Ole days. He kept picking players who were consistently poor, no matter how badly they played, they were on the team sheet. It allowed players to drop their standards because ultimately it didn't matter. Maguire was the captain and leading by that very poor example.
His performances have been shocking for a long time, he didn't feel the need to move away to play football and regain his peak, sharp standards so he deserves to get stuck into. Nobody is judging him as a person but as a player. Nobody is making memes of players who opposition teams are scared of.
The fact Southgate continues to pick him because he's never let England down is ultimately going to end in disaster in the next major tournament. We want winners in every position. People who are hungry to play their absolute peak level, every single time they play. That's impossible for Harry to do as 4th choice CB for United. You DO have something to prove Harry, go out there and prove to everyone that you're class and have been treated unfairly, do it with football.
Harry Maguir scores so many own goals not because he is unlucky but because he has so little agility. I am quite confident that most of the good defenders would not have scored that own goal.
He stretches his leg back to try and stop a shot. The ball pings off his foot and the keeper isn't expecting it. I don't understand why he continues to do it.
Never seen him moaning in the press😂😂 Dudes being living on another planet
The issue with why United fans also turned their backs on Maguire... Is because he would have bad games just like all the other players around him.... But be interviewed saying that "he has been performing well for United and that is why he is also in the England set up", he never acknowledges his own faults, while players like Lindelof, Fred and Bruno would acknowledge that they are not playing well...
Are you English? Like your opinion matters jog on
@@anthonystephenheath3752 I will stay here and give my opinion everytime.. Have a blessed day thou
also harry maguire said he has got nothing to prove🤣
@@pauljones8218 imagine 😭🤣
The problem is that even if he doesn’t make a mistake himself, he’s always involved in the madness. If a player makes rival fans feel relief he’s usually not very good.
The media is literally gaslighting the fans. He is not abused - he is critiqued - and rightfully so. He has performed terribly for over 2 years, had numerous digs at the fans and media, and sat on his big contract instead of moving elsewhere. If these writers were actually Utd fans and watched him every game as opposed to making drastic assumptions based on international performances vs the likes of Panama, they would very well know that the criticism is just.
Southgate talks about never seeing a player come under this much scrutiny? I have never seen a player perform so terribly on the pitch for such a long time and be continually backed. It is such unwarranted support which incites and intensifies the criticism. The support of Maguire is simply undeserved. He is not the player people within football weirdly believe him to be. Training and dressing rooms do not translate to pitch, output and performances.
If the media and people within football really want to back Maguire they need to stop with the delusion, accept the reality and allow this man to fade into mediocrity where he belongs as opposed to making him the subject of their misplaced and uninformed narratives.
For me the key word Southgate used was BEEN.
Yes when he was playing well and playing for his club every week that was fine.
How can Southgate play a guy that barely plays for his club, and he also had the option of bringing on someone else in the second half.
If i were Tomori or Colwill i would look at that and think what's the pointnif i can't even get a half in a friendly over a player that rarely plays for his club.
Southgate has put him in this position to be ridiculed, you are to blame Southgate.
Lol everything thing that Simon has said is right, we can only look at his body of work and it isn’t great now is it.
Danny Murphy “he’s a great player” would love him to name one world class performance he’s had in the last 5 years
Would love you to name when he said Maguire was world class
@@leepatrick9432he said great what do you think he meant cause if you're great you are world class
@@broman1429 He never said world class or great.He said he was a good player,so what are you going to define that as ?
Lewis Dunk played well. The problem is that Southgate is emotionally involved with Maguire and the fans are not. All the fans care about are results and performance.
Maguire has been class for England the way he rotates when he receives the ball. He does it on slowmotion so he can slow down the game. His passing out from the back is something what he have never seen before
😂😂😂
Slowing the game down is a good thing ?
@@Bkh0498His sarcasm flew over your head.
@@Bkh0498 Of course it can be - called controlling the tempo of a game
@@LeWacoKid 😂😂😂
One of Southgates, golden handshake club, what dose it say when ya not playing for ya club but still get picked for the national team,
'He turns like an ocean liner" sent me😂😂😂😂
Iv seen cheese turn quicker
Incredible on Murphy to turn this on United fans.
DeGea was going through a lot.Its hard to believe Maguire was once a captain of Man U.
Rather unfortunate phrase there from Southgate "every time he gets on the field the balls he shows" 😂
He balls he carefully nestles into the back of his own net.
I remember seeing Maguire play at Stamford Bridge for Hull City before he was well known. He was absolutely class that day and stood out so much in that team. He is just suffering with lack of confidence now, but the challenge is to get it back ! He needs to earn his place in the England side again not be picked based on past merits or his leadership qualities
There we go again thats the same when everyone points that someone is bad violent aggressive and theres always that one person that comes like you ...But he is a good guy if you truly understand him you will see his good nature until the day you got punched in the face by him and suddenly all makes sense for what everyone was warning u. Don't be that guy please...Few people are hated or was hated by fans like Ronaldo yet there is no excuse for lack of confidence he kept pushing and winning and thats the difference of mentality.
How many own goals do you need or defensive mistakes ...How many injuries to his own team mates he inflict it you need to witness ...?
Not sure he will ever find good form again unless he goes to West ham or something. He should definitely be no where near the England squad
Generally speaking im not a fan of how the media targets players and piles on to them - but in maguires case its perfectly justified.
Maguire and Southgate (both with their actions and comments) make the situation bad from worse over and over.
Maguire is a top player 😂😂
this is a prime example of what Eric Bailly pointed out . continue, you will reap more tears
Indeed!!
It is not the pundits that are criticising him - they are just as blind to his faults as Southgate is. The people who pay to see him week in and out [when he is playing], know he is absolute sh*te.
I assume Danny's referring to United fans in Australia and the US booing Harry on tour. Not quite the same as home and away support in England
I just love the back and forth between Simon and Jim. Intense but always respectful
I think Maguire might be cursed because this is not normal. 🙆♂️
Not cursed, merely too prideful and not that good
100% Deserves the criticism he gets and will continue to get. Just not good enough.
Maguire has asked for it from the moment he said he’s got nothing to prove, despite all evidence suggesting otherwise. Southgate’s asked for it by continuing to pick him against all logic
As a liverpool fan Harry maguire is my favourite united player of all time😄! I will never forgive United if they do manage to sell him!!! Harry is a legend👏👏
Yeh..he's even better than Jamie "own goal" carragher!..two great own goals against united!😅👹
@@mickfoskett6629 you don’t even believe that 😂
Im same with nunez
Harry Maguire is simply not enough to play for England
Did he actually score another own goal 😂😂😂 you cant write this stuff
What happened to that criminal offence in Greece for Harry Mcguire 🤔
Charges still pending
Southgate selecting Maguire shouldn't even be a question! After all, look at Southgate's long record of winning trophies internationally. Oh, wait...
Can Danny Murphy explain what Maguire did that no other defender in the world can do
You could say that about 99% of other central defenders in the world.What's your point ?
Be so consistently bad in the limelight maybe idk
@@leepatrick9432 so why does Maguire play over any other defender?
@@leepatrick9432 name one player that makes as many mistakes as Maguire
He was facing the wrong way, put the ball in to his own net under no pressure from the opposing forward. Maguire had said he has nothing to prove for utd even though he was captain and we were awful.
“He plays well for England” is the most ridiculous, redundant argument, I can’t believe the media still run with it. Most of his games have been qualifiers against Malta or group games vs Panama and Andorra in a team littered with world class talent, where you have 70+% possession. The crunch games that have mattered he hasn’t done anything to define playing well.
You need to take your Liverpool glasses off… had me in stitches 😂😂😂😂😂
If you watched him, all he dud was pass it backwards and sideways and even then he wasn't that accurate. He had no self awareness of that goal and no communication. Theres a reason he is not in the Utd squad, so why Southgate is acting like a child and digging his heeks in, when everyone can see he somone usnt up to standard and Southgate exposing him like this is making it worse.
That's because he's worried about his performance due to the abuse he's getting
This game is for warriors. Your earn the respect by how you perform. Harry needs to show up and win people over slowly. There is a certain Granit Xhaka who fell out with the Arsenal supporters. He slowly regain their respect by his performances, especially last season. Why is Harry not doing such? Step 1: He should have left United...
Warriors?😂😂😂
Southgate is right about one thing, he does play like a senior.
Southgate and Maguire are killing England.
Here's the tragic irony of it all---Gareth's sympathy and empathy for player's emotional health & strength has built this entire team back better than it used to be, except in situations where Gareth gives too much love and emotional protection toward flawed underperformers (such as he himself once was at England). His power and his weakness as a gaffer are the same.
I don't know how much he has built them back. This is the best squad we've had in at least twenty years if not more. I'd argue that Southgate is holding them back at this point
I was around during Southgate 's prime and I don't remember him ever being singled out as an under-performer. He missed a penalty but so did David Batty and Stuart Pearce.
@@joblakelisbon fair point, perhaps we've reached a time of letting-go. Would we have reached this stage without him, though? My worry and sadness is that Southgate will never get enough due credit for what he's achieved, over what he hasn't.
Feel a bit sorry for him tbh. The abuse he's getting, must be nervous as hell every time he plays in case he messes up
dont be sorry with the money he is on a week he always making mistakes
Many people make mistakes and can be criticised quite heavily at work for it. The thing though is that not everybody has the privilege of getting paid a pretty handsome amount for something they continue to be bad at.
He's been quality for England last two tournaments.
@@steroe7965he was literally at fault for the goal that knocked England out the World Cup 💀 yeah that’s quality. Bad quality.
@@hi-ls6lt I can't even remember that tbh
Southgate is the problem not Maguire. Southgate is a joke. He needs to take responsibility for ruining Maguire.
Southgate defending Maguire, is more about defending his own selection of him. If Scotland had got something from the game Southgate would have got slated and he knows it.
They've lost the protective narrative of 'he never let's England down' so now it's abuse. Why is honesty such a bad thing? Simple facts are maguire is out of his depth playing professional football but he knows people who control the media hence they have to protect him.
Once England meets Mbappe, it'll all be back to tears and pathetic excuses 😂
They already did and we all saw the tears then 🤣
@@shakeerhussain4736 did you even watch that match? England actually dealt with mbappe very well i thought
@@DrenwickificationMaybe so but what was the score? 😂
@@Drenwickification I did watch it and you're right he didnt do much. However England still lost while France had their best player locked up.
@@shakeerhussain4736 Yeah well there's no shame in losing to such a great team... lets not forget they nearly won the world cup a 2nd time in a row.
You are forgetting the two players who were superb last night. The two centre backs in the 1st half.
The treatment of Maguire is truly ridiculous and disgusting!!!
The favouritism from the Manager and the English media that is!
“He always plays well for England” they say. What about not marking Giroud properly against France!? Or the 2 mistakes that lead to 2 goals against Germany? Or losing his man against Iran which also cost us a goal? Or the fact he never checks his shoulder? And is far too slow getting back into position?
Maguire is a basic defender at best and a liability at worst! he has a terrible sulky attitude, never truly takes responsibility and spends more time checking his fringe than checking opponents.
Get him out of the England team and send Southgate with him! 🤬
It just doesn’t make sense, he’s contradicting himself and it will cause some of the players to look at him different, which will affect squad dynamics. How can he tell players that they need to play regular football to be picked, then turn around and not only pick Maguire, but also give him minutes? He’s making a fool of himself with that decision.
There was no need to bring Maguire on, Colwil and Tomori sitting on the bench could have come on to get minutes and experience. Southgate exposed Maguire to an unnecessary risk of ridicule, he isn't the best English center back so there is no basis to bring him on there.
Maguire had the chance to move to West Ham this summer where he would have got plenty of minutes and would have thrived in Moyes' system and got his confidence back, west ham fans would have taken to him quickly after he'd put a few headers in from set pieces. But initially he came out saying he thought he was too big for west ham and then stayed and Man Utd because neither team would pay his loyalty bonus. He can't complain about being on the bench when he threw away his chance for minutes and redemption.
Tomori a good player in a tough league in Italy Serie A. And another Chelsea reject made good - like Billy Gilmour .....
This is not really about Harry it’s about Gareth… he should not be picking players who cannot get into their clubs first team for England. He should be picking the best players, which Harry is definitely not, to play for England.
Southgate will stubbornly stick with him
Listening to Southgate speak is as mind-numbing as watching his teams