Why Amphoreus NEEDS To Deliver (and how) | Honkai Star Rail

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  • Опубликовано: 27 янв 2025

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  • @kirbydude667
    @kirbydude667 13 дней назад +57

    As long as we get a hour long bath scene with Agalea, I don’t really care how good the story is.

    • @w3t_wlpes
      @w3t_wlpes 13 дней назад +8

      Bro is speaking facts 🗣
      (But forreal though, they should take a page out of Hades 2’s book and do shower cutscenes with each chrysos heir)

    • @John_II
      @John_II 12 дней назад +1

      That would be PEAK.

    • @bef5582
      @bef5582 11 дней назад +5

      They are sit in the bath fully clothed, rip.

  • @ThuyNguyen-nh6hi
    @ThuyNguyen-nh6hi 12 дней назад +16

    - Stop playing their game (yep all of them Hi3, Gi, Hsr, ZZZ...)
    - Don't support their products, Don't give them your money
    - ALL OF YOU, sending them your Criticism feedback about the game to their Email, support website or something
    Sadly, all of those advice that I mention above are *Useless* for any Gacha game Fandom (like Hoyo) and even if 1 or 2 person actually done all of those above, but they still can NOT force the whole Fan base to do the same thing as them.
    Unfortunately Hoyo will keep doing what they doing and all of us just being forced to see it happen because *our* own delulu civil war of Free will

  • @Scorpio9580
    @Scorpio9580 13 дней назад +28

    I wouldn't recommend setting your expectations high for the 3.0 story, it's an introductory story to Amphoreus and will likely contain a decent amount of "yap" to get us invested into the backstory of what's going on.

    • @thebabbynick1543
      @thebabbynick1543 13 дней назад +17

      Which is so unfortunate, bc backstories should be told through animated cutscenes but Hoyo is too cheap to do that

    • @Saberdud
      @Saberdud 13 дней назад +7

      I'm already uninvested

    • @ThuyNguyen-nh6hi
      @ThuyNguyen-nh6hi 12 дней назад +7

      My expectations already low when they announced 8 Banners instead of Chronicle Banner or Captured Radiance

    • @Dinosaurs580
      @Dinosaurs580 8 дней назад +1

      You were so right.. 3.0 is a mess

    • @backpackpepelon3867
      @backpackpepelon3867 7 дней назад

      Its kinda strange how Belebog chapter didn't have this type of boring exposition dragged for hours and it still work wonders. I'm not surprise if later info will came out confirming that they use A.I to write 3.0 story.

  • @nathanhuynh7078
    @nathanhuynh7078 13 дней назад +41

    My gripes with HSR's storytelling isn't stemming from how story updates can go up to 10 hours, but how they decide to pace their writing and scenes. I can enjoy watching long movies like the Lord of the Rings Trilogy Extended Cuts and read a series with large page counts like the Harry Potter series because they are written EXTREMELY well with how they distribute and pace the worldbuilding, character interactions, exposition, and battles well together. They're long because they can afford to insert so much more content because of what they are afforded from the great writing I mentioned.
    Star Rail has lacked adequate pacing since Belobog ended. Their stories are long because 80% of the cast speaks with so much purple prose or they try to dissect and unpack so much philosophy from otherwise pretty digestible concepts, which then lengthens scenes to unnecessarily bloated segments. Higher diction is understandable in sci-fi/fantasy stories but Star Rail does a very rocky job with its storytelling. 2.7's story was actually short but I'd argue now they paced it TOO FAST because they crammed two character quests into one; the issue there now being nothing had enough time to breathe.
    3.0 is speculated to be around ~10 hours so let's pray that they learn how to pace better.
    EDIT on 1/16: I just completed the 3.0 quest... and yeah the pacing is still something I do not like even if the worldbuilding they did was good.

    • @jerryeljeremy7790
      @jerryeljeremy7790 13 дней назад +7

      Yeah duration is like amount of food you eat, if you feast upon the whole thing then it won't taste good. You kinda need to pace it.

    • @Tiku-
      @Tiku- 13 дней назад

      Honkai Star Rail writers just couldn’t comprehend “show, don’t tell”. Either they are that braindead with absolutely no sense of how to write whatsoever, or they’re doing it on purpose to increase player’s retentian and playtime so it’ll look good in the graph, yk, for investors to see.

    • @WittyFalls
      @WittyFalls 12 дней назад +3

      @@Tiku- they're a private company so no investors. This is really just a problem with chinese gacha games. Even arknights had tons of yapping for the sake of it

  • @mr.edelweiss
    @mr.edelweiss 13 дней назад +6

    I would want to see people gonna argue that SKIP button for hsr is bad because because idk storybased game, idk they need the money nonsense

  • @wanded2707
    @wanded2707 11 дней назад +6

    to be fair, i'm kind of tired of seeing the community sending feedback to improve the game and this fking company doesn't gives a shit tons of it. I play Wuthering Waves too and that game makes me want to spend money in it cuz they listen and changes things every patch but tbh Honkai Star: Rail just makes me want to stop play the game even if i've played since the beginning.

  • @RedWolfWindgear
    @RedWolfWindgear 13 дней назад +28

    I'm hoping the story is good this time. The last 2 worlds after Belabog have been lackluster.

    • @Just_abigheadnoob
      @Just_abigheadnoob 13 дней назад +2

      The story had been good, it's their shity execution and useless dialogue patting that makes it feel so exhausting and not worthwhile

    • @thebabbynick1543
      @thebabbynick1543 13 дней назад +1

      @@Just_abigheadnoobI barely even know what the penacony story is bc it was just too easy to check out mentally bc of the yapping

  • @roxas327
    @roxas327 13 дней назад +36

    If 3.0 is visual novel 7 hour dialogue with 3 idol poses being recycled and a static image occasionally where I can't even use a skip button then its an uninstall

    • @TwoToo_
      @TwoToo_ 13 дней назад +1

      If 3.0 MAIN STORYLINE QUEST isnt 7 hrs long to set the stage right and explain where tf we are IT FAILS. Just don't play the quest go do stimulated universe instead

    • @roxas327
      @roxas327 13 дней назад +16

      @ Yeah thanks for ignoring the other 462 reasons I said because reading comprehension

    • @enhaylo
      @enhaylo 13 дней назад +8

      The uninstall button is the skip button bruv

    • @supachaitengtakul5183
      @supachaitengtakul5183 13 дней назад +2

      ​​@@TwoToo_I like how I can finish the main story Mass Effect 1 with that HSR set-up time.

    • @sokinero
      @sokinero 13 дней назад

      Please uninstall then go play some other gooner game , people’s attention span I swear

  • @ATHOS_of_INDEX
    @ATHOS_of_INDEX 13 дней назад +36

    I'm looking up the amount of time the 3.0 main quest is gonna be. If it's more than seven hours with no skip button I might have to quit. I cant do this Charmony dove bullshit. I'm tired of being thrown into dialogue jail. I can't be back in the fucking building again.

    • @Just_abigheadnoob
      @Just_abigheadnoob 13 дней назад +13

      They already confirmed it's bigger than penacony and given their track record with dialogue bloat, I just can't see 3.0 being any different

    • @DAVFEARON
      @DAVFEARON 13 дней назад +5

      It has over 5k lines. Goodluck

    • @enhaylo
      @enhaylo 13 дней назад +1

      Just skip the game entirely lol

  • @goodmoringful
    @goodmoringful 13 дней назад +6

    Penacony drained my batteries from continuing to play this game. I felt exhausted investing myself into Penacony.

  • @jdoieziqriko5959
    @jdoieziqriko5959 13 дней назад +24

    I mentioned it on one of my previous comments... This update dropping in a few hrs from now will decide if I'm dropping or staying playing this game. As much as I love it, we are around the corner for the second anniversary and funnily enough, this around the same time I quit genshin impact ( right before its second anniversary). Around this time, more or less u can tell the direction a game is going. And when it comes to hsr, the direction it's going is DIRE. I was planning on pulling Madam Herta AND Jade, but now the plan is to hold off cuz I might be quiting so it's uncertain. Even if I end up not quitting, there may be a case where it's better for me to skip Herta anyways and instead go all in on my baby Acheron and Rappa since they're my favorite girls and investing vertically seems to be the better choice considering the fcking hp inflation. I fcking HATE this, and worst thing is that it might be too late (knowing Hoyoverse's track record).

    • @TwoToo_
      @TwoToo_ 13 дней назад +5

      At this very moment you can clear the current MoC 12 with acheron and jiaoqiu no lightcones no eidolons, pela and Gallagher. One side 3 cycles the other 2 cycles same teams. I hate the hp trajectory too but ultimately its skill issue. Hell even jingliu clears faster than acheron on average bcs of sunday robin. So idk why you'd complain about this. The entire video is a doom post. Wtf

    • @jdoieziqriko5959
      @jdoieziqriko5959 13 дней назад +9

      @TwoToo_ if u think this video is a doom post, u r the exact type of person that the community doesn't need. And I don't mean to be offensive with this. This video is trying to convey ways in which the game can improve, since it is clearly visible that it not going in a good direction. However, u come here commenting this and missing the point completely.

    • @plvto1
      @plvto1 13 дней назад +1

      ​@@jdoieziqriko5959 it's bait. ignore it. just speaking out of their ass to get a reaction.

    • @axHSR
      @axHSR  13 дней назад +11

      @@TwoToo_firstly there is little to no skill in this game, you have the investment and characters or you dont
      Secondly Characters like feixiao at her worst clearing similar to dot as its best outlines a massive issue with the game. Im not quite sure how this video is a “doom post”

  • @franziskavonkarma9952
    @franziskavonkarma9952 13 дней назад +11

    This is coming for a player who actually really enjoyed penacony (like seriously I didn't even realise people hated penacony till a few weeks ago). I do hope Amphoreus can live up to the hype I felt for penacony I have so many good memories from the story and it's characters and enjoyed every quest (aside from anytime Sunday appeared, because I'm a hater 🪓)
    I do feel like Amphoreus is gonna be alot of yapping though, especially 3.0 since it's the introduction to the planet and whatever problems they have
    I feel as if many will quit the game from this though, I probably won't bc I am emotionally attached to this game (haha mental illness is fun /j) but yh

  • @Tube4life679
    @Tube4life679 12 дней назад +7

    I decided to quit HSR before Amphoreus, I just can't keep up with everything and I'm just not having fun anymore. I'll watch videos to keep up with the story, but I'm just burnt-out.

  • @plvto1
    @plvto1 13 дней назад +32

    as a ZZZ player, i just wish all the hoyo games would receive as much love and care that it has.

    • @Mr_DE_0395
      @Mr_DE_0395 13 дней назад +11

      HSR players said the same thing to Genshin players too when they first get release, hell, the whole Genshin could never started by them. Now see what happen, it WILL happen to YOU.

    • @plvto1
      @plvto1 13 дней назад +1

      ​​@@Mr_DE_0395 uh, okay? all i was saying was that i wish that hoyo would treat all their games the same. all of their games, mainly hsr and gi have a lot of buried potential that they're just choosing to ignore because they get complacent with the money they're making.
      zzz has overhauled so many things, listened to the playerbase, even the little miniscule things, and they're very VERY transparent with their players. all I'm saying is i want them to start doing more.

    • @Tiku-
      @Tiku- 13 дней назад +6

      @@plvto1 you are missing the damn point roflmao, the point still stands 🤷🏻‍♂️ people said the same thing about Honkai Star Rail too berfore they went apeshit with the greed. In a year or two, ZZZ will suffer the same fate, because like early HSR and early Genshin, once they established a core playerbase through “generosity”, that’s when they’ll start the process of draining their money. Like I said, ZZZ will suffer the same thing in a year or two, and Hoyo will create yet another Gacha game to repeat that same process again. You seem to be in a massive state of denial right now, again, to your latter point, people said the exact same thing about HSR when it’s in it’s first year, and now look at where we are.

    • @plvto1
      @plvto1 12 дней назад +4

      ​​@@Tiku- looking way too deep into what im saying but whatever, keep misinterpreting what im saying

    • @themightysketch2815
      @themightysketch2815 12 дней назад

      idk about genshin or hsr man… i think the reason why ZZZ was treated with love & care it because ZZZ is not that popular and it’s probably dying

  • @typh2630
    @typh2630 13 дней назад +13

    Agree with everything except the hi3 part. I’ve never even touched the game but as of rn, u *still* don’t need to play it to understand what’s going on in hsr, speculating about “well they could be lying” isn’t proof or fact enough for such vitriolic rage. The Acheron name drop was not that big of a deal, literally just a name drop that confirms who she parallels for fans of the series. That’s all the expys ever are, u don’t ever actually have to know them, but if u do then it’s like “congrats, u got the reference”. That’s how they’re supposed to be treated, not liking them sounds more like it stems from a hate boner if anything. If that’s the case, this part of the story might be even more offensive to those that share the opinion. It’s been pretty obvious from the videos ppl have been posting around that it’s gonna parallel the “flame chaser” arc from hi3. More references most might not get, but a standalone story nonetheless.

  • @NoYes-uq2tz
    @NoYes-uq2tz 12 дней назад +3

    Finished the 3.0 story quest, god i just want an skip button

  • @darkcastle85
    @darkcastle85 12 дней назад +4

    Sucks theres no skip button id rather watch a show for 10 hours than seeing people yap all day

  • @ChrisUchiha7
    @ChrisUchiha7 13 дней назад +10

    3.0 HSR pull count is less then ZZZ 1.5💀💀💀💀

    • @doginaburrito2003
      @doginaburrito2003 12 дней назад +3

      Yeah… it feels like there are too many characters and not enough pulls 🫠

  • @fiorin_rhiri
    @fiorin_rhiri 13 дней назад +4

    I'll see how it goes and evaluate whether I want to stick around daily. I don't mind the yapping, but the problem is that simulated universe and moc/pf/as are what you pull characters for and farm daily for.
    I'm looking at my E6 Xueyi and E6 Misha, I feel 0 motivation to build them. Meanwhile, I was very excited to build my March Hunt. Can we have more of that?

  • @John_II
    @John_II 12 дней назад +1

    Great summary.
    I think the story in Penacony could be forgiven if it was SHORTER. If for example, Hoyo is going to make Rappa's story so cringe/dumb, then Hoyo should have made it 30 minutes, so at least the suffering was short. Instead they made it 300 minutes. Meanwhile, Sunday's story had way more depth, and it was only 150 hours and that's with the Fugue/Tingyun part in it. Why couldn't Rappa's story be shorter? Did Hoyo really think we wanted 5 hours of "Slumbernana Monkey"?
    Contrast those stories with the character quests with Jingliu, Blade, Kafka, DHIL and Jing Yuan on the XL. Those are all like 30 minutes, get the point across, don't over-stay their welcome and I was left wanting more but was happy with what I got. That's the ideal.
    Or fix nothing and give us a skip button so we can end our suffering on our terms.

  • @YindigoYangMonk
    @YindigoYangMonk 13 дней назад +3

    I appreciate that you just say what needs to be said, and honestly... the obvious truth hoyo players avoid more than taking a bath. After this whole powercreep talk i realized people will even eat s-... dung pie, if that means escaping from reality. That's the only explanation i can find for so many people crying about an outright truth spoken with the intent of hopefully achieving a better experience for THEM players.
    Anyway, nice video bud

  • @That_Daily_noko
    @That_Daily_noko 12 дней назад +2

    3:08 they didn’t say you didn’t have to play HI3 to enjoy

  • @herbalteaflower
    @herbalteaflower 13 дней назад +5

    My biggest gripe with how Hoyoverse tells the story in HSR is that they rely on player hype just a tad bit. I remember when i first started playing in one of the 2.X patches, i kept hearing about how peak Penacony is. So I went in with high expectations, assuming the story would flow well if i finished it all in one go. It didn't. A lot of the "mystery" of Penacony relies on the player having played it as it dropped in batches, not as a full, continuous story.
    I didn't have a chance to mourn Sunday, Robin, or Firefly because i can continue the quest line almost immediately after, and they're just fine, apparently! I couldn't feel shocked at Gallagher's actions because it's soon revealed his pet dog isn't malicious at all, actually! I, as a new player, got a disappointing storyline because I made the mistake of playing too late. It reminds me a bit too much of how mascot horror games operate. Release a chapter and hope the fans generate hype for it to draw others in and ignore the flaws in the storyline.
    Im not going to return for Amorpheus because I know the Trailblaze Missions will fall into the same pattern. It will end on a "mystery" hoping that players focus on that instead of them acknowledging the pacing and writing are not as good as they can be.
    I used to love the game, even spent money on it! But if the story gets disappointing eventually with no option to even skip, I just lose interest. They have money and experience, I just can't understand how Hoyoverse just drops the ball on their storytelling so often!

  • @meowmeownya666
    @meowmeownya666 10 дней назад +2

    god i hope the next chapters won’t be so long it’s such a snoozefest

  • @andressilva2055
    @andressilva2055 13 дней назад

    04:54 I would think you wouldn't want that given Robin.

  • @windowcatt
    @windowcatt 13 дней назад +1

    I love this game and I am still playing it but I can't say this game hasn't disappointed me several times

  • @BrownSillyCat
    @BrownSillyCat 5 дней назад

    3.0 is a yappatron

  • @arielbastianburgeramestica5769
    @arielbastianburgeramestica5769 13 дней назад +1

    4 four stars in eight versions

    • @mint_zzz
      @mint_zzz 2 дня назад

      Ridiculous, right?

  • @edy_uwu8874
    @edy_uwu8874 12 дней назад +2

    Hsr can't make everyone happy so yeah

  • @venusiangamer69
    @venusiangamer69 12 дней назад

    The yapping in HSR never stops. I've lost all hope at this point. 🤷🤷🤷

  • @cseperegazesolefolyikazarcomon
    @cseperegazesolefolyikazarcomon 2 дня назад

    Tbh I play hsr only for story quest recently, I'm getting bored of the game, the fudging hard and long endgame contents (I hate GnG and Swarm, UD is simply autoplay, DU is repetitive) and the insane powercreep, so if the story won't improve I will leave the game. I stayed because I really wanted a playable Sunday, it was my only motivation this year.
    After 3.0 story quest
    It wasn't that bad but too long for me. The last 2 hours were only yapping except the boss fight (just like the last hours of main Penacony story). I was so glad when Phainon came back, his presence always cheered me up. That part with The Herta and the mirrors killed me. I had to skip it.

  • @kaka09876543210
    @kaka09876543210 13 дней назад

    I have low expectations for early version 3 story. The writer story is predictable but twist is good.

  • @Satyr42
    @Satyr42 11 дней назад +2

    I am here to tell you that they did NOT deliver. It has once again bloated boring dialogue with about 7+ hours of talking a lot while saying very little. Then add all the badly paced crap in between the dialogue and you have a badly paced 12+ hour long story.

  • @2345Z
    @2345Z 13 дней назад

    What happened to the livestream?

  • @AeonLettuce
    @AeonLettuce 13 дней назад +2

    Honkai feels regularly starved for content lately, and they keep giving us short ass, uninteresting events (Free stellar jade is nice, but it doesn't change the boredom).
    ZZZ has been feeling GREAT lately and there's CONSTANTLY content to play.

    • @Tiku-
      @Tiku- 13 дней назад +5

      Remind me of that pointless meaningless absolute dogshit Sampo event that we recently got

    • @invalidy4r4
      @invalidy4r4 12 дней назад +1

      ​​@@Tiku-free jades yum atleast

  • @harfi212
    @harfi212 13 дней назад

    Lol, there goes hsr as golden boy of gacha community
    You're next zzz & wuwa, 1 year from now.
    Even before the recent bandwagon hate of penacony story, i always feel the story is not good at all.

  • @TwoToo_
    @TwoToo_ 13 дней назад +8

    Penacony delivered. Idk nor do i care why some of you disliked it. Had. Cool world building, nice story, insane VA, crazy cutscenes. Xianzhou had insane side quests but all interesting characters were missing: kafka, blade, jingliu barely saw them. Belobog arguably the most boring bcs of all the snow and introductions etc. wardance was cool, and the filler quests except for sunday bitch crying the whole patch, and the monkey song, the rest was fine.
    Ofc amphoreus has to deliver, but the sole reason is... Because it's the first patch of the year 🙃

    • @DAVFEARON
      @DAVFEARON 13 дней назад +2

      Fucking cope

    • @georgelucas8815
      @georgelucas8815 13 дней назад

      You got any tips for a new player starting in 3.0?

  • @hyunji1652
    @hyunji1652 13 дней назад +1

    I wholeheartedly disagree on the Penacony , i enjoy it but it does wear on you after Playimg , Powercreep stuff is take it or leave , i know im gonna get hate on this but as long as you are smart in investing , you should be fine

  • @silvershadowhero528
    @silvershadowhero528 13 дней назад

    I liked the 2.6 story quest

  • @hawk8149
    @hawk8149 12 дней назад

    No

  • @Zoeila
    @Zoeila 13 дней назад

    I'd you don't like tapping go watch a MCU movie

  • @arielbastianburgeramestica5769
    @arielbastianburgeramestica5769 13 дней назад +1

    Como jugador en español estoy bastante de acuerdo con lo que dices. Personalmente no me gusto mucho la conclusion de 2.2 y menos la 2.3 con las muertes falsas de firefly. Definitivamente la historia 2.6 fue una mierda muy horrible llena de monos y texto inutil. Entre el powercreep, no me gusten tanto los pesonajes de la 3.x y la narrativa insoportable me planteo desinstalar en juego.

  • @bitt3r-s2h
    @bitt3r-s2h 11 дней назад

    Tbh yea the story is good and the characters look amazing but the way they made the enemies is so bad for people who don't have fua or premium units the enemies are stupidly overpowered and if you want to get through the battle you would need a good character or the herta since hsr has abandoned dot and now making fua characters

  • @tomatopawah6877
    @tomatopawah6877 13 дней назад +1

    1.4 ZZZ story quest was ass. Harumasa's agent story on the other hand...

  • @LM-pg9hy
    @LM-pg9hy 13 дней назад

    3.0 is make or break for many people

  • @eternallight523
    @eternallight523 12 дней назад +2

    A lot of the english VAs are disappointing their fans yet again.
    Hoyo should clean house and fire them all and just get replacements at this point.

  • @Elfcon
    @Elfcon 13 дней назад

    Honkai impact 3/Honkai star rail are story game if you don't like it that ok other people like it I don't
    mind 40 hours story

  • @aigurin
    @aigurin 13 дней назад

    I quit HSR 'cause of story telling from Stellaron view, not from Welt Yang. It absurd to make Welt really strong SIDE character rather ONE OF THE IMPORTANT character.
    I still believe player is false protagonist rather true protagonist.
    P.S. I dropped at version 1.2

  • @IrrelevantOaf
    @IrrelevantOaf 13 дней назад +4

    Yeah I don't think the HP inflation is gonna be resolved anytime soon. We definitely need more endgame modes and better stories for sure. I wish Hoyo actually listened to Global more instead of the CN side.

    • @broccoli5176
      @broccoli5176 13 дней назад

      Global side is a bunch of pathetic losers who whine about everything. Is it necessary to listen to such people? And, ironically, tpeople who complain the most about the problems are the same who haven't invested anything in this game.