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As someone who works in advertising, it's not only the marketing team of Infinity that messed up. For this "ad" to be published, there's also a creative agency involved, so imagine how a "creative" team worked together to come up with this, also the creative director approved it, then Infinity marketing team thought it was good enough for them to show it to their leadership. A LOT of people thought this was ok before it even was sent for publishing. Shame on all of them.
^Thissssss. (Although tbf, I don't think most people here know the difference between advertising and marketing and assume they're synonymous. >.>)
I kind of like the irreverance of the ad though. It mocks "luxury" car brands that often use classical music to push the idea of class and quality. I just think they didn't need the kids and could have just had the lady watching her kid's soccer game or something, get confused by the music, turn around and see like, amateur adult orchestra in the park.
THIS. Coming from someone who is in the creative field, I also can’t believe they got it approved on all levels from ideation, storyboarding, producing and fliming it!! I feel so badly represented knowing how much research always goes into the creative process, and can’t believe nobody thought this was a bad idea.
Let's be honest. We all know that some exec at Nissan had a bad time at their kid's recital, and decided that it would make a good commercial. The agency's people, who likely spent a lot of time storyboarding and pitching other ideas, couldn't convince Nissan to go with another, better idea, so this commercial was made instead.
@@theimmersedreader i can see in my mind exactly how this went 😂😂
Having also been in this cycle, I've seen it where one guy high up the chain thinks it's a great idea and no one either has the balls to tell him, or everyone agrees and he won't listen. So we just say, ok... Good luck bro and let em learn the hard way.
The big issue, to me, is that it pushes the “musicians are only valuable when they play perfectly” ideology. The idea that beginners are annoying and shouldn’t practice when people are around. It puts the musician in a perfectionist attitude, where nothing is good enough and casual practicing becomes unnecessarily stressful, because they’re worried someone will hear them messing up.
This is so me 🥲💀
Yes to this. My mom made one comment when I had only been playing viola for maybe a few months, a year at most, and now I can't practice when other people are around. I use the practice rooms at school most days.
Edit: I should've mentioned that I've been playing viola for about eight years now. I still can't practice when others are around.
Exactly this! People of all ages are afraid to learn an instrument because they think they'll be mocked like the kids in this ad. Many who do try to learn give up because they can't recognize their own progress. They don't understand the steps between raw beginner and seasoned professional (or even just accomplished amateur) and how long the journey can take.
Yes! I'm an adult beginner on the violin and I can't practice when I think someone hears me cause I am always afraid they are gonna think I suck. It makes me anxious, very self-concious and is pretty similar to stage fright. This ad is really mean, beginners don't always sound perfect but they don't always sound bad either.
I relate to this so much, children and also adult beginners should be taught to not be ashamed of playing badly as everyone has to start somewhere...
They could’ve shown a mother going crazy with construction sounds, sirens, people shouting at a basketball court nearby.. and needed some peace and go into the car, turn on a soothing classical piece and rest…
OMG! Exactly. This will be more relatable to parents. In fact, this will reach more audiences as well.
My parents's mindset was like "only adults can understand what is music about" so they never let me learn any instrument. I'm 31 years old now, and finally started to take violin lessons.
good luck :D
What the fuck? Do they not realise most if not all professional musicians started playing before the age of 18?
that's wonderful! Keep it up!
proud of you!! Keep up!!
Is it scary? I’d like to learn violin too!
It's definitely geared towards the "mommy needs wine" culture, which, in essence is "I can't stand my kids so much they drive me to drink," or, "The highlight of my life as a mom is socializing and drinking and generally regretting having kids."
You're completely right. The ad is totally targeting mothers that don't really care about their kids lmao
How about "kids can't be criticized" culture? A mother is also a human being, not saint. She spend her time and life to drive her kid to music class like there is no better thing or place to be. She doesn't complain nor stop her kid practicing. The only thing she wants is a moment of quietness. All of a sudden, she is a terrible person and doesn't deserve to be a mom. Really?
When children bitching about how their parents not being supportive enough, do they show any sympathy for them? It's tiresome to see so many self-righteous "musicians" demanding parents to be saints or they will blame all the failure on them. Feel sorry for those parents.
@@bomin6384 I don't think criticizing kids is the same as mocking them. You can constructively criticize kids and still be supportive. Listen and tell them ways to improve. That's not the same is literally blocking them out entirely. I can see what you're saying, but I don't think that is what was portrayed with this commercial. I see more of the "mommy wants wine all the time because kids just suck. "
@@tulleuchen I never say " kids can't be mocked" culture, right? So why do you try to replace "criticize" with "mock" in my comment?
Way too many comments think once a woman has a kid, she must devote all her life and energy to please, to serve her child, or that woman is a cold blood bitch. She can't decide which sound she desire to hear or not. Have a moment of serenity is portrayed as "literally blocking them out entirely". Points out there is intonation issue to be improved is traumatizing a kid's feeling. Imaging the mother has a hard day and drove 45 mins to send her kid to music class, she must pay all her attention to listen to the kid practicing (or would be child neglect), then another 45 mins SAFELY home. Then provides nutritious dinner for the whole family. And the day is not over yet, there are still so much to do I don't even want to list all things out. If she has the nerve to pull a glass of wine... The world is so cruel and mean to mothers, I see that as true bullying to women.
Alas! Women desire no children... Just shot them! Wish all the mothers are properly loved and cherished, feel so sorry for them.
And why do people deliberately ignore the fact about how happy that daughter is in the end of ad?
@@bomin6384 The daughter was happy because it was in the script. Sure, this is not so literal, it's metaphor. But it's not really clear which way it goes. Give mommy a break because she works hard, or ignore the kids because they are a nuisance. It could go either way. Cheers. I'm not discounting hard working moms at all.
As a mother of two all I can say is: it’s telling volumes about how society (at least in my country) generally thinks of kids- as a nuisance. Tbh I also think it just feeds into the non-musician stereotype of: kids playing music = sounds all bad all the time. Which is completely false.
I've seen this trend, too! I think some parents don't know how to be parents and don't want to deal. So they "check out" like this ad mum. Children and new parents need grace on both sides. Room for errors, room to learn.
that's a good point !!!
I'm childless and I can't imagine having this attitude towards my children (or any child for that matter). A kid not playing well yet is just a child doing a childlike thing. I don't think it's the fault of today's society though. In the past, these people would have yelled at the kids to shut them up, which in my opinion is even worse.
@@rekal7775 I think, in the past there was more general inclination to have children at all, though.
I also really wouldn't be surprised if there actually was more actual persuasion against having children nowadays as a response to feminist activism since having a child means a decreased access to your labour power.
Ye
As a musician I didn’t get offended personally, but i do agree that this ad really wasn’t necessary and it can discourage younger/new people
Yeah, they could have just used blow horns to play a goofy song. Hopefully the internet will keep working with companies to advertise their products by motivating perseverance than making fun of it.
tbh my band makes fun of how we sound while sight reading so i wasnt too offended, but still yeah it could discourage people, especially me years ago when i thought i couldnt play well
@@side_character_c1787 No one can play well when they learning...
Listening to my daughter practice and going to her school's orchestra performances is one of the biggest joys of my life. My daughter has been playing for only a year, but I don't hear the mistakes ... I hear the progress. She loves it and wants to study music in college. It makes me angry to watch that stupid Infinity ad. Thank you, New Brunswick Youth Orchestra, for coming to the kids' defense. (You were AWESOME! 🤩) Shout out to all the aspiring musicians out there who deserve respect.
„I don‘t hear the mistakes, I hear the progress“, you put that so nicely!
From one of the violinist in the new Brunswick youth orchestra, you're welcome!
The video of the new Brunswick youth orchestra (the orchestra I am in), after we uploaded the video to RUclips, a week later, we got an important email. It said the new Brunswick youth orchestra is going to preform at Carnegie Hall in New York city. I am so excited, the concert is in June of 2023.
Keep encouraging your daughter, music is the biggest part of my life ever since I started violin 9 years ago when I was 5 years old.
Thank you for being such an awesome supportive parent :)
1. I hate when adults make kids the butt of the joke.
2. If there are children near my car I WANT to be able hear them.
My friend's mom was backing out in a parking lot ages ago. I heard a toddler and screamed so she stopped. Kid was behind the car but was too short to see. I sometimes roll down my windows so I can hear better. I don't want to be cut off from the environment as I drive.
Don’t tell me that after all this fuss (which btw I’m with you), the marketing still tricked you.
There are safely standards set by the government that cars have to follow to be allowed to be sold. This car is perfectly safe to hear any sound like a car horn or emergency vehicle.
Also reversing cameras are mandatory on car in many countries since about 2018-2019
The worst thing in this ad is that you don't even want to totally block sounds in a car you are supposed to hear what's outside
I know, right?
It is a safety issue. Sound is probably the sense that gives the most quick responses in humans .
@@karenfinance3336 Thats pretty true, what happens if you get in a car crash because you can't hear your surroundings, or if your car malfunctions you would literally have no idea.
this ad is a failure in every way possible and is an insult to its own brand
Imagine being a good driver
YES!! Blocking ALL!!! sound from entering a car? What about the guy trying to warn you your muffler is on fire and is honking wildly!? Gheesh!!!
Hi Twoset! I am a violin teacher with the New Brunswick Youth Orchestra (the organization that made the clap back video). I wanted to let you guys know that because of the attention our youth orchestra received from the video we made, they were invited to play at Carnegie hall in 2023!
Also love your content, you guys always makes me laugh!!
Do you know the age requirement to join?
@@HeindsAG I'm not too sure if there's an "age requirement" but most of the musicians are the age of 12 and over
@@r0ni3_ ugh I gotta wait a year, I can already play good pieces on a flute I was playing for only 3 months
@@r0ni3_ i can play Samuel R. Hazo, Joseph Compello, etc
Your orchestra is BASED
Okay, let’s make this clear. I don’t like kids. Often they annoy every essence out of me. But the one thing I will never do is make fun of them, or ignore them, or dismiss them to their face. I remember how much adults who did that to me affected me. Kids are so unstable, and no one should ever target them
I more concerned with " i don't like kids" how can you hate kids in the first place lol
@@exiledkenkaneki701 for me personally, I have never experienced having kids, so I do not know the joy of having one
but the horror stories you get from other people plus personal experience from being a cousin may contribute to it.
When I grew up, I realised how annoying I was to my older cousins while being annoyed at my younger ones, and I severely regretted it.
I don’t know what the other guy’s condition are, but thing that are universally liked can be disliked because of personal experience by itself without other sources to contribute to that specific point of view.
Though a kid myself, I can kind of see where you’re coming from. You’ve most likely met the more rowdy and act-before-thinking kids than the rarer sensible ones.
@@exiledkenkaneki701 are you serious? I'm not even someone who outright dislikes kids, but here's a sampling of why people might not like kids:
(Update: I wanna really clarify that I think kids are mostly hilarious, and I'm interested enough in how their brains work to study developmental cognition.)
1. They'll repeat the same thing over and over and over, because they think it's cool or funny or even just fun to say. Some kids are even more likely to repeat it if they can tell it annoys you, because they like getting a reaction of any kind.
2. Kids can be gross - so can adults actually, but it's very common for kids who haven't learned otherwise yet.
3. Kids often are a little too astute and ask questions that basically roast you, lol. Like asking a parent or other adult "why does it seem like you don't have any friends?"
4. Personally, a lot of middle school kids annoy me, because many of them only do things to follow trends so they can fit in, and then make fun of other people for not knowing the one popular dance that's trending on TikTok or whatever (no, I don't hate TikTok either, but the trends can be too much). I get they're doing it to fit in, but it just feels like reinforcing a culture of bullying and conformity.
@@spottyrules6678 I'm with you on this. Coming from a standpoint of being bullied during early childhood. Feels pretty shitty at first till you find yourself doing it to others and you see where they're coming from. Different concept than the original comment but the point I'm trying to make is that the people who tick you off aren't all what they seem and they just need some understanding and validation.
Putting the entire children's orchestra thing aside- the whole point of a horn is that it alerts other drivers. Having a soundproofed car could be downright dangerous
When she closes the window they probably just cut out the sound of the orchestra. The car has to adhere to safety standards set by the government and I’m sure the car is very safe.
That’s exactly what I was thinking. A car isn’t meant to be comfortable and relaxing. You don’t live in it. The purpose is to take you from one place to another in a safe and fast way.
@@CoriBeth01 what the fuck? Lol if someone is paying like 30k+ for a car, you bet your ass that their ass is gonna be comfortable. Do you know literally nothing about cars?
Exactly what I was thinking! Like you have to hear whats going on in the street. Just think about all the accidents caused by people in traffic wearing headphones.
@@abalakrishnan4152 yeah, that makes sense and is most likely the case. but the sound cutting out implies that their aim was to make it soundproof or cut you out from the outside world, which is not what a car is supposed to do.
There are so many more sounds that people would want to block off.. if they used any of those instead, it would've been more relateable and effective advertising
Yeah seriously Peter ... they could've used Traffic sounds , busy roads ... Indian weddings
we can understand the AD is clearly about blocking the noise but they just used small children trying to play instruments
how do these ads even get approved..
Totally! There are so many other sounds that I would want to block off... so that I could hear the music played in the car. This Ad just gave me an opposite impression on the feature that I actually want, how ironic. = =
I could imagine plenty of people yelling at each other in traffic being a better thing to block out than ones own children...yeah just saying
@@avatr7109 lol. You've seen the episode of top gear where they make car commercials? WV, I think it was, says they don't make garbage commercials when jeremy promotes his explosion and fire idea. The actual commercials they make: explosions, war, bullets, fire, apocolyose... the very garbage they claimed not to make a few thousand times
Exactly my thoughts. How dense are they to choose this concept and for what, trying to be fancy? If anything, classical music tends to be used for elegant and classy things, not far unthinkable with expensive cars like Infiniti as a brand. To backstabbed the music itself is just such a silly idea just to showcase their sound proofing feature.
Dude, I am not even a musician and I was also irritated by them just being so discouraging to beginners in order to promote their product. Also, the New Brunswick Youth Orchestra Reaction touched me and made me tear up a little.
I'm in a school orchestra, and I feel that even though we don't play "perfectly," it's about our parents and family getting to see how hard we've worked/how much we've grown in playing our instruments. The parent in the ad was savage
Don’t use savage so lossely and lightly. That’s such a goofy clown thing to do 😂 She reclined in a seat. A savage is someone who is intensely violent and uncivilized. You must be damn soft if that’s savage to you 😂🤣🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
When I was a kid, I really, really, really wanted to learn cello. My mom decided to go ahead and get me some introductory cello lessons, and I was thrilled. Being a beginner, I, of course, sounded terrible, and whenever I would practice, my mom would tell me to stop because I sounded terrible. After the intro period was up, she just… didn’t sign me up for more, even though I wanted to continue. It wasn’t because I didn’t have time or because we couldn’t pay. She did that with a few of my hobbies growing up, actually.
Now I’m an adult, and my interest in learning a string instrument hasn’t waned. My interest has shifted from cello to violin now, and I’m going to do it, but I’d be a liar if I said that formative experience with an unsupportive parent doesn’t linger in the back of my head. When I saw this ad, I saw my mom. I hate that some kid might feel the way I did because of this careless piece of marketing.
Oh, I'm excited for you. I'm 7 months in (inspired by Brett & Eddy I might add) but I've never sounded 'terrible'. Intonation, bowing and timing is far from being 2nd nature but my tutor says I'm playing much more in tune now and boy, I just love the sound of this amazing instrument when I get it right. Allow the passion for violin to overcome that experience. Folk on here will have heard me mention the 4 P's: Passion, Patience, Perseverance and Practice. You need all 4 imo. You can do it. Just believe in yourself.
I'm a mostly self-taught musician that's getting into lessons now as an adult. It feels tough, and I do feel like I missed out on what so many younger musicians got (supportive parents, instruments that worked, etc.), but if it's worth it to you to pursue it, then it's worth it. Doesn't matter what anyone else thinks of your playing. I play violin and piano, probably not the best, but it brings me joy and it's good to keep learning as an adult anyway! So yeah, give yourself the time to do what you love. Just wanting to be a musician is enough to earn you the right to try. (And feeling like you're failing doesn't mean you should stop! It takes many tries and hours of practice to learn to do it well.) Sorry for all the discouragement you faced. You can do it, internet stranger!
@@synonymouswithjello2359 Good comment. 'Doing what you love' is key... Enjoy your musical journey too...
@@synonymouswithjello2359 I did become a musician, even as a kid/teenager- a classically trained vocalist with a 3.5ish octave range when I’m really warmed up and experience in several styles, but strings were always a thing I’ve wanted to do. I guess the good part of growing up is that I get to give myself permission to do the things I wasn’t allowed to when I was younger. :)
I took piano lessons, but nobody in the family wound let me practice, because the piano was in a hallway next to the TV room.
I’m in the New Brunswick Youth Orchestra and I am so honoured that you said that we sound great. As a university student that is a little self conscious about playing in front of people, you guys make me more confident in playing in front of people. So thank you so much
certified NBYO moment
As a 62-year-old who has just started piano and wished he had started at your age (before teens, anyway), I salute you guys. Keep going, and in your later years you will not only be able to entertain yourselves, but you can look back with pride and say "I did that, and I gave people pleasure." Money can't buy that.
wow! im auditioning this year for it lol
You guys sound fantastic & should be very proud of yourselves! Keep up the great work! (By practicing 40hrs a day)
@@r0ni3_ good luck on your audition! 👍
Hey I'm actually in the New Brunswick Youth Orchestra! We recorded that ad before our last concert and me and my friend sat in the park across the street watching Ken take takes while we ate lunch. Really happy with how the ad turned out! We actually got invited to Carnegie Hall because of it so that's also exciting!!
Congratulations!! I hope you guys do well! :D
Ohh that's amazing !!!!
Awesome!
Congratulations!!
YOO Wassup!! iam also in the orchestra too! im pretty you had camp like yesterday?
This ad was cruel. I think people need to be able to get a joke without getting offended, but doing what they did went totally off limits, mainly the part when THE MOM CLOSED THE CAR, SO THAT SHE COULD STOP LISTENING HER DAUGHTER PLAYING.
This
In lockdown last year, my music teacher would share his screen to show us orchestral recordings on RUclips and when the video ended his suggested videos were filled with Twoset and I still think about that every once in a while.
same
my teacher has actually assigned us to watch twoset videos when he’s absent multiple times
My high school orchestra teacher quoted Twoset frequently during class
That's amazing
Music teacher here. I’m just like that. TwoSet have been teachers too, and they are super relatable to us as well.
I have been a piano teacher for 33 years of my life and unfortunately I have heard an INFINITY amount of adults criticizing young musician after a rehearsal or a recital. I find myself always asking the adults for kindness before every studio recital every year. People, a little bit of kindness and love goes a LONG way, and just like I don’t try to sell cars because I am a piano teacher, people who don’t know how hard it is to learn to play a music instrument and how brave children are to play in public, should just stay quiet and not mock them. Very disappointing.
I used to sing during performances, and I got a solo in my schools concert- right after the concert, my mother immediately had this upset look on her face and straight up said “you did horrible”. The car ride after that was silent and I still haven’t forgotten it to this day. That was when I was 9.
The ad annoys me on many different levels: showing that parents will tune their kids out if they sound bad - conversely stating that you have to play good to get your parent's attention. It shows that a company is clearly insensitive to children all in the name of selling a car. Kids already have enough peer pressure when it comes to groups in schools: jocks vs music geeks, etc. Why not just show that you have no value for anyone with music capabilities and give a bully yet another reason to bully? This is so effed up. I hope this ad results in a loss of sales and a rethink of who does that company's advertising.
You’re reading way to much into it and projecting so many of your daily problems onto this 😂 It’s not serious … It seems like a playful joke. People that aren’t a part of the classical music culture don’t really know what that world Is like. I doubt they’re taking a shot at musicians. People are so sensitive 🤣🤡🤡🤡
@@GourSmith nah I see it the same way. Idk what the situation was like for you but I knew kids who are passionate about music but were discouraged because their parents hated the sound of them practicing. Even to this day I know a girl who only practices her singing when her parents are gone because her parents made her so insecure about her voice.
This ad may be made with no bad intent but it can and WILL harm young musicians.
UPDATE BC I WASN'T AT THAT PART OF THE VIDEO YET: The ad is in the video, I was talking about the NBYO, which I was part of 3 years ago!!
My old orchestra were so “offended” that they made a commercial as a response, and honestly this is the best thing they could’ve done 😂
Omg I would love to see that
It would be so cool if you posted the video on lingling40hrs!
I'm interested!!
@@mulin__ just posted it on the subreddit, I hope y'all enjoy it as much as I did 😂
@@senthecat14 Can you link it? I cant find it even though I’m scrolling lmao
A more logical flaw - if the car blocks off outside sound, you can't hear other cars horning at you if you're in danger?? The company seems to be in greater danger than we think huh...
My first thought was, so that means if you drive this car you can't hear ambulances or police cars' sirens and might even get into trouble with the law?
my first thought was that too. what a dumb ad for a dumb feature..
Haha good point
It seems to be a feature used when you are stationary.
You do know that volume is a thing? Just because you can block out ambient and general noise doesn't mean you can block out a 120db horn? I suspect you're not very good at either math or music...
As someone who was tricked into learning recorder instead of violin as a kid because violins are scratchy, this ad really annoys me. Poor kids. Not sure that beginner recorders are any easier on parents' ears though.
Lol
Yea
Hey be proud with what you have recorder boy
PS: I have a duck video, a chicken video, a video where i am begging for money on Twitter, a walking video, a video where i am playing with my nuts. A short with a blog ... Also a patreon
@@iwanttobeabillionaire1703 bro stop self advertising
This ad says: Don't invest in your children. Invest in your local dealership.
As a new mom, I can honestly say that I WOULD HOPE to hear my child play badly so that I can watch the growth and development of something amazing that is to come. I can't play any instrument but when my sister was in band during school, I went to almost EVERY concert and couldn't help but be amazed at the amount of talent that those kids had, as well as the amazing ability of their instructor for being able to help those kids learn and grow into their talent. Those instructors worked hard to help the kids find their passion for music and inspire new works of art. It was such a beautiful thing. I think this ad is not only insulting the kids but also their parents who work so hard to support their kids and have the patience to watch them grow AND the instructors who work so hard to keep the children motivated and learning while still having the time of their life.
that's really nice of you, watching your sister perform...I played piano growing up and was pretty good (I was working on Chopin at 13) and my older sister always told me to stop playing so she could hear her friend talking on the phone even though she was a floor above me and I had the practice pedal on (because she told me to put it on to "make it quiet while I'm doing math") and generally made me feel bad about playing piano --which I love and she disliked (our mother forced her to continue with lessons)-- and she COMPLETELY ignored my requests if I asked her to do anything regarding piano, even giving her advice (once she was playing badly and I said "I think that's supposed to be tied" politely, and she shouted "I DON'T NEED ANOTHER TEACHER!" at me before slamming the piano's lid shut and storming off). Sorry for the long response! Also, congratulations on your kid!
The point at the end was what brought it home for me: my mom picked me up from school to drive me 45 mins so I could go to the Conservatory and get the best singing lessons my country could offer. For 2 years cause I was not allowed to drive (you can’t get your license until you’re 18), went to my concerts and recitals, my dad would wait outside sometimes in the rain until I was done. My mom risked getting in trouble at work for being late. My parents sacrificed so much, I don’t think I’ve ever thanked them enough. They would hear me practice, gave me feedback, they were tolerant of me. I am blessed that they supported me.
I think it was definitely mean. As a high school clarinetist we need more support to make young musicians sound better. Stuff like this makes schools cut funding to instrumental music. Horrible!
ikr they could've just used the sounds of construction or something ACTUALLY noisy 🙄
@@devonchristopher5837 imo soundproof cars are dangerous in their own right. I mean… fire engines and police cars and ambulances all have sirens… it’s the same reason why it’s illegal (I’m pretty sure) to drive with headphones on.
As ridiculous as it sounds, you’re completely right
As someone who spent years in school band its a joke.
The kids are fine they know what they signed up for and you have to be sensitive to take it personally as a watcher. Not all youth bands sound bad just the fake one in this advert did
honest question: If instead of the clarinet your instrument of choice was the viola, how would you feel by twoset constant remarks on how bad this instrument is and how unskilled the viola musicians are? I honestly don't think that the jokes twoset makes put a negative effect when they say them, but for the same reason I can't project the idea that the ad would have this effect.
when he said " in our experience, all kids have talent andcan shine on any stage anywhere" i started to tear up. it was probably partly because of the music but also i just really feel like lately kids aren't being motivated anymore. like they are a bother. when you make a child believe in themselves they become adults who can possibly change the world but people forget that.
also every time i think im not going to practice today, i watch a two set video and they shame me into practicing so thank you.
It was such a beautiful response and very classy
"They shame me into practicing" 🤣
Sorry, that was hilarious!
You are so right! While i adore Twoset and everything Brett and Eddy to to motivate us as artists it truly isnt their job to do that. I wish i was given that same motivation by others when i was younger and i wish children now would be given that too, it really sucks that theyre not getting the appriciation they deserve. Twoset has definitely helped me in getting motivated though
Yes.. Finally a comment that show how society nowadays is. Maybe the essence of kids being a bother birthed this kind of kids shaming ad. I cant find any other explanation.
All kids have talent when they practice BUT in the interim as they get better, they gonna sound like the kids in commercial. Which is fine because that's reality.
To be honest. What they said about parents blocking out the noise being incredibly discouraging to children resonates a lot with me.
I used to play clarinet and the main reason why I stopped is because even when I played in my room with the door closed, I would get yelled at whenever I practiced. Then, I was kicked out (of my own room) to the basement. Where I had nowhere to sit and did not have anywhere to set down my music. With time I found that, the only time I could practice was when nobody was home. So what was the point?
So, sadly, although lowering the self-esteem of children might not be their end goal... I think there are many parents that can probably relate to this ad. At least I know that mine did.
BIG NEWS. I finally got my mom to watch twoset!! Shes a classically trained pianist and vocalist who hasnt been into music for years and she. LOVES you guys. She thinks the sacrilegious and interesting references are hilarious and she loves how you debunk/ explain things like this. Keep it up!!
My biggest question was: why the hell was the little girl's mom allowed to park her expensive car in the middle of the auditorium, while they were playing without a conductor?
There seems to be no planning, and thereby no delivery of the vehicle because no ones gonna book it.
I think she's called Karen so she decided to do that "bacause she can" 🤣
Yeah I was just about to comment that, like I didn't know youth orchestras arrange drive-in concerts, must be some American thing. :p
@@eiralinnea As an classical musician American... I can assure you it is _not_ XD
She ran over theconductor I guess
The worse part to me was that the mom looked at her daughter in the mirror, saw her clearly doing her best at her performance- and then shut the windows and laid back for a nap. Really??
On Mother’s Day, one of my kids told me that what she most appreciated about me was how much I support each of my kids in their interests, how I try to help them and encourage them in the things they’re passionate about. This ad struck a bad chord with me (no pun intended 😝), for sure.
This message warmed my heart. Needed that after this ad.
Ikr? When I saw that part I almost cried. What a cold thing to do to a child.
Imagine the embarrassment felt by Infiniti's engineering department. They go out and create this masterpiece of a car with all these cool new features and everything else, and then marketing comes along and is like, "No"
hey!! i'm an NBYO member and it's so cool seeing our funny response reaching you guys !!!! you're my favourite classical music channel and its cool seeing you talk about,,,,our orchestra :0 it's so cool. very cool video!
The only thing that I actually liked about this ad is that it also jokes about the typical use of classical music in ads. You see the shiny car, hear the first notes and think "Ah yes, another ad using classical music to appear chic and classy" and then the bad intonation kicks in and surprises you. It's the contrast of the stylish car with the stylish woman vs. young kids and screechy sounds. That's funny and self-ironic. But yes, it is also disencouraging to all beginner instrumentalists, especially kids.
So much this. And tbh, that was probably part of the ad concept.
Yes, good point. I couldn't figure out what the ad had to do with the car (I mean, you could say they want to highlight how soundproof it is, but I don't see why that would be so important that the whole ad needs to focus on it), but this actually does make a lot of sense - it's making fun of other car ads. And in that way, I do think it's actually quite clever.
If they subbed the youth orchestra with adults playing a caricature of an orchestra and maybe an over the top conductor looney toons style all playing poorly, they could have done the same thing without all of the offense. Oopsie
Not only did they lose their sales but also the respect from all musicians-
A big fat roast 😂
Musicians can't afford luxury cars anyway. Yes, middle school orchestras are torturous to listen to. All the offended Karens here are funnier than the ad too.
👆 karen detected. Also you are crazy if you think beginner like children can play good without practicing for years first.
@@Sonny_McMacsson people who throw tantrums when somebody says their joke isn't funny aren't really in any position to call somebody else an offended karen lmfao
Seventh grader here: I had my spring concert today and our orchestra teacher said we played absolutely fabulous! Two of the five pieces we played in a competition, and we won second place by two points! It’s truly inspiring to see a school stand up for their students. Hopefully the creators of that ad change it so it at least it’s less sensitive to the community
What a nice letter you wrote! I love that a seventh grader is as smart and sensitive as you. Keep up the great work making music!
As an adolescent who is a musician, with all offense to this brand, all kids aren’t bad, and if they are, don’t treat them this way. That hurt the youth music organization more than it helped families in need of being bad motivators. Luckily I was watching this on my phone, my tv would be broken by now.
If you can disappoint a classical community slowly, you can disappoint it quickly. (And lose your sales)
Imagine: what if the woman was driving with windows closed and stopped at a sign and notices a kid playing. Then decides to open windows to hear the kid.
Could be used to prove the same point, sound isolation...
I like that!
Perspective matters. Love your idea!
YES Literally way cheaper and way wholesome
Their marketing team should hire you
You are Definitely way smarter and waaay more positive than whoever thought of that abomination.
I went for my first violin lesson today! Thanks for your videos, they've been a big inspiration ❤
How's it going with your lessons? My daughter plays violin. She was frustrated in the beginning months (sad, screechy tones lol), but she stuck it out and now she loves it. She's been playing for a year.
@@maryann2385 It's going really well thanks!! I have been practicing grade 1 scales and starting to look at some grade 1 pieces. I'm a grade 8 piano student so that helps a lot. Nevertheless, plenty of sad screechy tones 😄 Glad to hear your daughter's enjoying it.
@@Fjpackard That's wonderful! And yes, very good that you have a music background to begin with. My daughter played piano first, too, and that helped a lot. Best of luck to you! :)
It was clearly the point to make the commercial controversial, cause otherwise nobody would be talking about yet another extremely generic and boring car (like their newest model on display in the ad) and it would never get so much traction regardless.
That's just bad advertising philosophy. Stocks can dip from negative ads. Especially tone deaf ads. Remember the Pepsi ad with Kendall Jenner? Pepsi for peace between protesters and cops at a time of tension? Just give a Pepsi so they can chill? Their stocks dipped. Then took a month to recover. It's not only tone deaf, it's bad moneymaking strategy.
And I'm sure someone will take the fall from the horrendous reception of the ad.
The youth orchestra response was so awesome! Dunking on children for laughs is tacky to say the least, and they got completely steamrolled by those hard working and dedicated kids.
The youth orchestra's response was literally "yo your kids sound like shit, should've hired us instead, lmao, our youths sound better." And rocking up in a BMW? Talk about tone deaf.
As someone working in marketing, whatever (untrained and probably overworked) team was behind this ad was likely targeting an audience that is disconnected from the classical music scene altogether (probably wanted to parody traffic horns or something), and when placed in a commercial break between shows, it will probably gather a few mindless laughs (which it intended to do, probably). Sensitivity is something truly missing from the marketing industry and I kid you not, the copies we get for some more sensitive issues (like mental health) are so horrible that we have to send those back to the drawing board very often. This Infinity ad was in poor taste, no two ways about that! It’s lazy and completely disregards the feelings of those audience that the brand is not targeting. On the other hand, whoever wrote the Orchestra ad is a genius. *chef’s kiss
Here's an anecdote: I know a child musician, they thought this ad was funny
@@kaldo_kaldo same. My sis who doesn't drive did not understand what this ad was about, a beginner musician I know (who travels by nothing but a car) found this funny. Can't deny that it wasn't funny, just lazy and insensitive to the audience it does not target.
As a kid who quit violin at age 11 out of this exact fear of sounding bad and being annoying to my family while I was practicing, this ad really made me feel bad for all the kids who just might happen to see it on tv and get turned down the path I did.
I decided to get back into learning violin a year or so ago (going to Uni in the fall) and I’m enjoying it immensely! My current teacher actually showed me the exact same video with the. New Brunswick Youth Orchestra a short while ago, and was heartwarming to see. Hearing you guys rib on the ad also was pretty validating, haha. Thanks for making a video on it!
I used to be part of the New Brunswick Youth Orchestra many years ago. I'm so proud of them for what they did
This sends a terrible message to kids in orchestra - the same sort of message that many parents send when they talk through Musical Evening performances until their kid plays - my pet hate when my kids were in high school. The ad reveals a lot about the ad execs who created it and unfortunately reflects badly on the car brand.
The car brand execs saw and approved the ad, don't give them a pass.
@@barongerhardt 👌
Many years ago, my mother and a neighbor went to just such a performance in which my brother performed. He was (and remains to this day) a talented musician and then came up his classmate, a violinist. You don't always expect a lot from a high school violinist but he played beautifully and Mom said to her friend, "This kid is ^really^ good."
His mother turned around and said, "Thank you very much."
No surprise: He has had a long and distinguished career as an violinist in a fine orchestra.
If only he had been mocked and insulted in a crappy ad, he might have scratched out a career as an ad executive.
I really hope the kids were in on the “joke” Infinity was trying to portray… that would be a low blow to find out your practice was just dubbed over..
I guarantee you it was dubbed. It's cheaper to have a bunch of kids show up and take their instruments out for one shoot, not have them play, then dub over it.
They just needed some "nerds" to poke fun at.
>in on the "joke"
isn't that what "acting" is? to be something you really aren't just to entertain?
then yes, they were "in" on the joke and critics dissecting the skit are the real clowns
@@darkhorseman90 That's what we are all wondering, or "dissecting." The job which these young musicians were hired to perform. If they were hired as actors, then that's no less sacrilegious than all of the other actors who have terrible form because they aren't musicians. But if they were hired as musicians, and then their music was dubbed over, then that feels insincere and very discouraging for these promising young musicians. Their form looked good for the most part (I only play violin, so I can only assume the other instruments) so that's why we all think they might be musicians hired as musicians, instead of as actors
Thank you so much for speaking for all the kids out there! Your message is SO IMPORTANT and I really love you both for using your platform to educate and call out toxic behavior. Bless you!!
To those who say, "Ease up! It's just a joke!" It might be "just a joke" to you, but to a kid who's trying to convince their parents to sign them up for band/music lessons, it's not very nice. To kids whose parents do have the "my children are ____" attitude, it's not very nice. To schools & school districts who are trying to hang onto their band programs, it's not very nice. To band teachers who are doing their very best with what little they're given, & keep trying their hardest for "their kids", & are in danger of being cut from the school budget, it's not very nice. What can be done? Don't buy infiniti cars. It's that simple. Email the company & tell them their ad with the youth orchestra offends you. If enough people do so, they might pull the ad, or at least apologize for it.
Well said!
"I don't think parents want their kids to have their self-esteem ruined like that."
Ohhh, let me introduce you to my mother, who told me every time I picked up the violin that I sounded like I was murdering the cat, or who said I was completely tone-deaf and that I "couldn't hold a note if it had a handle on it" every. single. time. I opened my mouth to sing. And this is why I stopped learning the violin at 13, and I didn't sing with anyone else in the house with me until the last couple of years. Before that, I refused to even listen to myself singing because I didn't want to hear how godawful I must be to hear that so much. When I finally did because my friend talked me into duetting with them on an app, and promised that she wouldn't ridicule me for how bad I was... only THEN did I realise I'm NOT actually tone deaf. I'm not even that bad at singing. I'm not great, of course, because I don't practice much, and I sure as hell never got lessons, but I spent more than three decades convinced that I was so bad that nobody should ever hear me sing. I'm in my mid-forties now. I regret giving up on the violin, though I would never have been that great and I doubt I would have been able to move much past where I was (grade 5). I still don't sing in front of anyone, but I can put my headphones on and sing as long as nobody else mentions that they can hear me. And that still sucks. I want to feel free to sing and, well, I guess I'm still working on that.
Tl;dr - words are knives and often leave scars that can last forever. Be kind to others, and yourself. 🤗💜
Pick violin back up! Don't allow those memories of your mom continue to poison your mind. You can do anything you put your mind to! I'm 34 and just now beginning to learn piano. I'm lucky enough to have learned clarinet, also sax and be able to sing. My parents were never super involved or reminded me to practice, but they never told me the thi gs your mom said to you. So I say to you, you are amazing, and I hope you pick up what you once loved.
Wow! What a horrible way to be treated. I’m so glad you’re getting to enjoy making music now.
Side note: I would suggest singing for fun without headphones on. The headphones block how you actually sound (everyone is off-pitch when they sing with headphones on). From your post, it sounds like your singing is just fine; you’ll naturally improve if you can hear yourself in relation to the music you’re having fun singing along with.
I have a backstory similar to yours. It took me years to get over the emotional damage. But, as a young adult, I sang in a famous choir; when I grew old, I finally started taking piano lessons. Please don’t let your mother’s ignorance and cruelty deprive you of the joy of making music. Remember that whatever she’s said to you, it’s just one ignorant person’s opinion, not Truth. Please consider talking about this with a therapist. I know that there’s a way through this-start by taking off your headphones and joining a choir in your church or neighborhood. Good luck! 😊🎶🎼🎹🎻
Bo min must like your mother
Not only are they trying to make young musicians look bad while trying to market a sound proof car. They are marketing a sound proof car. I think that is dangerous to be on the road with because you do need to hear what's going on around you. For example ambulances and busses or even people yelling. You can't just have visuals for when driving
Losing respect from me as a musician and for others safety
While I totally get where you're coming from, plenty of Deaf people drive perfectly safely without needing to hear. For sure though, being able to hear other cars or pedestrians certainly doesn't hurt!
An extremely sound proof car also limits your ability to gauge how fast you are without always looking at the speedometer. This leads to accidentally excessively high speeds
Eh...not really. Deaf people can drive, and statistically (in the US at least) have better driving records and lower accident rates than hearing drivers. That being said, hearing drivers who aren't accustomed to not relying on their hearing might run the risk of a higher risk of accidents, I'm not sure.
Source: Am Deaf, can drive (and play violin, though not at the same time)
@@jeffreyhuang3249 Personally (as a Deaf person) I rely more on tactile clues to indicate when I'm driving too fast, as opposed to sound clues. It has never occurred to me that people might rely on their hearing to judge how fast they're driving. Can you clarify/expand on what you mean by this?
All your child wants to hear when you've come to their performance is: "I loved watching you play!" Nothing about how well they did, nothing about how much fun they had. Just "I loved hearing you/seeing you."
They were WAAYYY off !! Young musicians are already way ahead in life BECAUSE of the discipline and dedication classical music requires.
I remember my first concert in an orcherstra with my classmates (we were all beginners). At the time, I felt we did pretty good, and my parents said they were proud of me. I recently watched the video of this concert (10 years later) and OMG I cringed. It was way worse than in the ad. If my parents did something like the mom in the ad, maybe I would had been discouraged and stop music.
Ads these days... Some are trying to be popular not by how good it is, but by how BAD or offending it can be so that they can arouse discussions... Since people do tend to talk more about how ridiculous an ad is than how good one is. I'm glad influencers like Twoset can stand out and openly discuss this issue, and hopefully, this can let these ad creators realize that there are more important things to care about than just making money and gaining attention. On that term, I love the ads of Twoset Apparel the most, so check those out if you haven't lol
your like the guy without a mustache but for twoset.
@@rushilsangubotla224 Thx, I'm not as good as him (I assume) tho, all his comments made to the top lol I'll work harder 😂
Well, I got to see the ad because it offended TwoSet, probably would not have seen it otherwise. I am not planning on buying a new car, but yeah, this was probably done to get more people watching and talking about the ad.
"There is not such thing as bad publicity" - well, if you mess up enough, people can start to boycott you, but I don't think that's true for this particular ad, the wider audience gained from this probably offsets the few people who were planning to buy the car and now will buy some other one.
It was never the intention to offend anyone nor to stand out by being controversial. This was meant to be a joke, some might see it offensive but some think this is hilarious, it's the same thing when Brett or Eddy make a joke about other instruments. People can get offended by almost everything, you can never please everyone.
Besides, if you don't like it just don't watch it, it's that simple. If you're concerned about the young musicians in the video, they must've been told about this since they're actors and being paid. If you're concerned that it might affect young musicians with low self-esteem, then they probably shouldn't play music anyway if they're affected by an ads. You'll be criticized all your life, that way you can improve yourself, in this case your playing.
Uhhh 2nd top comment this time so it was really easy to find you again :)
I remember, even as a little kid myself, that school band performances were often exactly that hard to listen to. (small, underfunded, rural public school. and a lot of those kids had never picked up an instrument prior to that year's music class.) so it's entirely possible the kids were in on the joke; I know I would have been, as a burgeoning (and now recovering) music snob.
but even I knew, as a kid who was pretty consistently unaware of social cues, that YOU CAN'T LET ON THAT YOU DIDN'T LIKE IT, that would be incredibly cruel to the performers. pretending a kid's school band is good is like... the social equivalent of resisting the urge to go up to a child and tell them santa isn't real. like... it's the truth but why would you feel the need to be such a jerk?
Ok so at least one person in these comments has shared my experience! And yes! That is the integral part, you can't make it obvious that you thought it was bad. The only parts that bother me about this is that it is clearly the actual performance instead of a rehearsal and that you can see the mom block it out in front of the kid. I personally wouldn't have cared if my parent put in some earplugs while I was practicing in the house when I first started because I know it was bad, I wouldn't have wanted to listen while lounging in the house either. The important part however, is that they always came and paid attention to my concerts and they never discouraged me or my ability to play. I think that's the most important part, if you don't like the way it sounded, you still tell them they did well and encourage them to keep going and get better.
Finally... Someone who understands. Id rather be told the truth that my playing is horrible than be lied to or sugarcoated because that doesnt make it any better.
as the little girl that gave up on her dream i once was, the ad made me cry, and the response made me cry even more.
we're seeing actual adults treating young talents as if they're feelings and future don't matter. we're seeing a mom ignoring/belittling her daughter's hard work. what a shame honestly. no person deserves such treatment, and even less a kid :/
i’m not a musician myself but i think, aside the fact that young people can play really well, the ad reflects a reality which we are told that we cannot be bad while learning something and people/adults should expect perfection otherwise it’s intolerable to listen. every hobby, job or something we are learning would not be perfect as soon as we started and i personally think enhancing this mindset frustrate people of trying and learning new things in life
This is so true 🥺
" If you can drive slowly you can drive quickly "
If you can be sacrilegious slowly, you can be sacrilegious quickly
If you can drive slowly into a brick wall you can drive quickly into a brick wall
If you can have a car crash slowly you can have a car crash quickly
This quote can forever go on
@@hermionegranger5084 if you can quote slowly you can quote quickly:)
My parents were like that. So much so that 20 years back, I would have been okay with the ad thinking "of course." Now I know that good people actually exist and it doesn't help anything.
My little sister plays the violin. She plays beautifully *now*. I had to grow up with it before the result. The commercial was hilarious.
If they are saying the car window can block out other cars' horning, just show that. I'm sure it can be funny and dramatic if presented well.
It would've been ten times better if set in a traffic scenario, they could've flexed the AC and the sound isolation of car just by sitting in traffic.
Just have the driver with the window down, approaching a traffic jam, horns blaring, the day is hot and then show the driver put down windows, close the sunroof and turn on the air con, BOOM! Showcased two features in one go. Wasted potential from the marketing team really.
And by the way, illegal. Cars are not allowed to block out noises so much that it interferes with the driver's ability to hear horns, and the sirens of emergency vehicles.
@@Tresorthas I think it’s a stationary feature
It's all fun and games, until you cut off an ambulance you didn't hear.
I already assume everyone drives with their eyes closed already.
@@edwindungdung1998 Yeah, you would never want to hear the warning of a horn.
I think the ad would've made more sense if the woman was at like a rock concert or something waiting for her friends/family members to get back, and she's not into whatever they're doing so she needs peace and quiet while she waits. I don't know, I'm not a marketing major so I can't speak for the idiot that came up with this ad. Seriously, this was like, HR levels of not understanding things about people.
I totally am on board with your idea because I can relate to it. It shows Infinity HR and other companies in general are not care about daily matter like us.
Or making it like the mom tries to block the car’s next lane blasting their loud songs is all right too. It happened to me literally just 2 days ago 🤣 and the loud volume bothered me more than the genre.
There's a very funny clip from Monsters University where the cheerful, bubbly, stay at home mom drops off her kids and tells them to have fun, she will just be sitting in her minivan, listening to music while waiting for them to get done. Then she rolls up the windows, turns on the radio and the HARDEST SCREAMO METAL MUSIC starts playing. They could have done something like that instead!
I get the same vibe from this ad as I do from America’s Got Talent. It’s the overall attitude to classical music. They don’t show the audience yawning at the music they want to promote. Same thing here, they won’t show a car blocking out music that is mainstream or whatever, because they don’t want to look like out of touch boomers who don’t like what’s cool. To their minds, “It’s annoying kids playing annoying classical music and no one likes that, right? So it’s ok.”
Honestly though. Also if they really wanted to keep the kids in, it would've been nice if they talked about the soundproof aspect and were then like "You can still hear the sounds you want to hear" and it just opened to the orchestra playing that song but not the tone deaf version.
"This ad was a little bit tone deaf." 💯👍
Young Man, you took the words right out of my mouth!😄
It’s actually pretty sad, because I do get self conscious when practicing. I’ve been playing the piano for almost 8 years and I still get self conscious when practicing. I know my parents don’t enjoy hearing me practice whenever I mess up because they’re used to hearing it perfect. I joined my school’s orchestra for our musical and I practiced A LOT and they expressed how they didn’t enjoy it. Especially with my dad, when he came home from work he just didn’t want to hear it, so I became super self conscious. And that affected how well I played too because whenever I could practice my parents were in the house and I didn’t want to disturb them. This ad can really hurt a lot of beginners self esteem which is why it’s horrible how the marketing team approved of this.
We studied this at my University two weeks ago! You guys covered a bit of what we talked about, but we also focused on how this ad reinforces the harmful association between orchestral music and elitism/exclusivity. Advertisements are one of the places where these ideas are most prevalent, the infinity ad is linking people who can afford this expensive new car with people who listen to orchestras. I feel the New Brunswick Youth Orchestra missed the mark a bit by having the director or whoever he is stepping out of an expensive car, but I guess that's not what they intended to comment on, though they should have taken the opportunity to do so as breaking down the elitist association is essential to drawing in a new audience for orchestras.
Sacrilegious...the other orchestra and you guys did the right thing talking about those kids future and self teem. It's very important. Love u guys.
Honestly felt a bit hypocritical listening to all the concern about young musician's self-esteem when most of the time twoset has no problems making jokes about how bad viola players sound etc, and there's probably lots of young violists watching. Yes, there aren't as many viola jokes anymore as there used to be, but I can't imagine how that might affect young violists who struggle with self-esteem the same as any other young musician.
Hey there! I'm a violist who has been playing for about three, almost four years now. I can definitely understand your concern, but rest assured, many of us honestly don't mind the jokes - in fact, we're often the ones making them (from my experience, at least)! I personally really enjoy viola jokes because, as offensive as they may seem, you've gotta admit they're kind of funny, in a dark, self-depricating kind of way. As long as everyone can agree that it's just a joke and they aren't used to inflict malice or make anybody uncomfortable, I think it's totally okay! It's healthy to learn to laugh at yourself every once in a while, in my opinion, at least.
@@hoshitori6985 Good for you! My father's a musician,(flute) and he told me once about the general temperaments of the various musicians in an orchestra. He said that violists tended to be quite good humored about all the jokes, and were easy to get along with😊
@@dpainter1526 Woah, that's so cool! I'm very happy to hear that. I wish your father good health and the best of luck throughout the rest of his musical journey (if he is, in fact, still playing), and you as well (if you are a musician too)! :D
Loving my first few days with your channel. Can't call myself a musician anywhere near your level but I'm still loving each episode. You both have a great chemistry. And I love your sense of humour. 🎻🎻
"It's just a joke" has been the refrain of bullies from time immemorial. Bullying is bullying, and it's never a joke.
@Kevin L They make whole movies where the main character is a bully, just because it's an actor portraying bullying doesn't give it a free pass.
all i can think about is the violas joke this channel and their audiences like to make. I don't play viola, but it would be unthinkable for viola players not to associate the two scenarios. I don't think this ad is that much of a big deal, if someone sounds bad, I would want to block off their playing too. Though I can understand the other points that twosets were saying, especially for musician children who need encouragement rather than disdain.
Bullying is all the "musicians" feel they can produce noise freely, and people can't complain about it, even can't have their windows closed.
"Bullying" is not the accurate word for what this was. Choosing drama over truth undermines your argument.
@@bazzfromthebackground3696 You are right to not give the main character a free pass. However, instead, criticizing the moving is rather stupid. Unless the movie is selling the narrative that being bully is cool.
As a member of the New Brunswick Youth Orchestra, this is a certified music moment
I am a member as well.
I am the principal second violin)
Yep! I'm principal Bassoon
i remember when i was younger i was very passionate about playing the recorder. whenever i was practicing, my parents would try everything to block the sounds out. vacuuming, drilling, or even leaving the house. whenever i asked them if they'd like to listen to me they always answered they were busy. they discouraged me so much that in the end i quit playing. so as you said, behavior like shown in the ad can really hurt and discourage young kids.
3:02 As someone who has been paid to an extra in a movie, you have zero idea what your role is until they start shooting. You don’t get a copy of the script or even a synopsis. I’m sure the director, producer, + all the main actors (with speaking lines) know what their roles are within the scene/greater film etc. but usually extras don’t get much explanation. Once I was cast as a keyboardist extra to be in a band (miming) and luckily the hairstylist doing my hair decided to let me have a look at the script of my scene before shooting (I have long hair so it took a while lol). Thanks to reading the script, I find out that the “backing band” the other musicians and I were supposed to be playing (miming) were supposed to be HORRIBLE sounding because they wanted to contrast our scene with another band later in the movie 🙄
Good news though, even though I was paid for that day of work, they cut all angles of me for the scene so I did not have to be associated with being a “bad” keyboardist. So I’d say it was a win-win. That anecdote and commentary is all to say I bet the kids had zero clue they were being associated with being bad musicians because they were all (or at least most of them) likely considered just to be in-focus “extras”, which, is sad ofc, but, they all probably made at least a couple hundred bucks…. meh. Also, important to note, while I am a professional musician who has also done extra work, many extras who are hired don’t even play instruments in real life and are just hired to mime… so it’s possible some of these kids literally aren’t even amateur musicians and were just told by some person on set how to hold their instruments and mime playing.
This is the most sacreligious thing on earth,
I've been supporting 2SetViolin for a year, still remember their old videos, I'm happy they grew and got the attention they deserve!
Yeah but content went really downhill
@@maggoteater2290 actually I think that it got better, but alright
@@maggoteater2290 they said it was because they kept getting copyrighted whenever they used any sort of music.
Russia starts a war toward Ukraine is sacrilegious. Concentration camp in China is sacrilegious. Your “most sacrilegious thing on earth” itself is sacrilegious.
@@bomin6384 it’s a joke bro😭😭 no one’s saying that those events aren’t sacrilegious, you don’t need to make everything serious when it’s not
Not only were they being rather mean-spirited towards beginner musicians, they are also telling us that their cars can block out the sound of an entire orchestra, which from a safety stand point, is very very bad. You need to be able to hear what's going on outside to hear sirens and other car horns, so like, thank you for letting me know not to get your cars :)
Don’t tell me that after all this fuss, the marketing still tricked you.
There are safely standards set by the government that cars have to follow to be allowed to be sold. This car is perfectly safe to hear any sound like a car horn or emergency vehicle.
@@abalakrishnan4152 No nothing tricked me here. Advertising is important, and they were simply advertising their car poorly, that is all I'm pointing out.
That's a very good point
As someone who is from New Brunswick and plays piano, guitar and violin ( and actually I know that building where the "commercial" takes place lol, I walked by it like twenty times!) that ad at the end killed me, good for the Youth Orchestra for calling them out.
as someone who quit orchestra at 12 when i/we sounded that bad, i thought it was pretty funny. but i'm an adult now and can laugh about how horrible i was on the violin. 35 years later, i was watching my child and a bunch of other 15 year-olds who didnt quit when i did sound absolutely amazing. i'm beginning to think a child who sounds horrible now can sound great long before they can laugh at their failures.
I got goosebumps on the ad made by the youth orchestra!! Me and my friends once chat about how lots of classical musicians have a special kind of aurora around them, they are gentle but sharp at the same time! Reminds me of the "happy birthday pranks" video that you guys made. Creative, proud and mischievous but respectful and humble!
Like, what has Infiniti been thinking?
Every child has talent.
Aura? Or are they glowing? :P
Whoever created this commercial must really hate kids altogether to make such a mean ad
He must be one of those 'Get Off My Lawn" kind of people!
A kid-hater no longer has the right to keep a kid away from HIS lawn. A lady longs for quietness has no right to block out noise. What a wonderful world. Come on! Don’t be so self-centered!
Sooooo... When another car honks at you... You can't hear it and be aware of a possible collision ahead? That is what I get from it.
That satire one was so good. Got mad inspiration from the cinematography and fantastic recording of those brilliant musicians. Great stuff
Just remember that we musicians still have infinity times more talent than the ad creators
I love Eddy's take on the "it's just a joke" mentality all throughout this video. TwoSet probably should apply this attitude towards their viola jokes hey
Exactly! They make joke and make fun of so many thing. I’m very surprise at there reaction to this tv ad.
Yeah what about the kids that play viola?
@@rhix Exactly my point! :)
louder!
Yeah, now that you mention it, it's a bit of a double standard.
They should atleast have told those kids that it was a joke ad setup before doing it. They wouldn't have practised for an ad unnecessarily.
This is exactly what I imagine people who buy Nissan SUVs to be like. So the ad is probably really genius and tailored to their audience.
I remember watching this ad for the first time on TV and thinking that's a slap in the face of all young, child musicians still learning their craft
Thats the kind of mum who tells her daughter to eat outside while having guests over because she was watching tv on mute too loudly
The "I have company coming- go to your room" type.
The New Brunswick Youth Orchestra video is amazing. The perfect ending would have been a shot of the parents rolling down their car windows to applaud and cheer.
I got chills from the sound of the real youth orchestra.
wow! i have to say i never thought about this commercial that way. as a former musician, i actually thought this commercial was pretty funny and reminded me of my own orchestra in school. i know there were also memes related to bad orchestra playing in the past so maybe i thought it played up those memes. i’m curious to see what people think: if there were giant speakers playing the music instead of the children, would that change the reception of the commercial?
It absolutely would. The biggest offense in this commercial is the mom blocking out the sound of her own kid, and that's something that leads kids to quit playing. Had it been trying to block out loud music playing from speakers, that would have been a million times better, since the mom wouldn't be directly insulting the children, specifically her own.
twoset's really feeding us with contents this week 😭
my orchestra teacher told us abiut how a youth orchestra proved them wrong, its really cool that you’re reacting to it now! :]
Honestly, i loved this commercial. Have raised two kids and now started taking cello lessons at 50. I tell everyone that commercial is my life and im not the lady in the car. I sound that bad but i love it. Part of the process.
They should name their company "Sacrelicar"
Scamshamecar
Also, that response by the youth orchestra was the most positive and impressive way to respond to something like that.
The ad’s message: if you’re a cruel, uncaring mom, you drive Infinity.
bro that youth orchestra commercial gave me an ear to ear smile, i have never been so satisfied by a performance