If Panasonic launched a sleeker camera with many fewer buttons and custom functions. The only appeal of the SL system for me is the simple to use, clean menu and body. Hate the look of Penny, although yes, no doubt it's a much better camera at a much lower price point.
What do you call a person who is a beginner at his hobby but buys the most expensive gear? A dentist. When I was selling Leica's we had sooooo many dentists.... unreasonable old men were the only ones buying the SL cameras.
@@kingghidorah8106 Leicas are the only ones with first party repair and parts though. Also I am pretty sure the M mount is the oldest mount that still gets new lenses.
Honestly pretty impressed with the Jordan autofocus test at 500mm. I don't have the original pixels to peep, but those shots looked solid. The addition of the drone footage is great--seeing you use it is definitely a great endorsement for the Flip.
When photographing at such a distance, this is a fairly simple job for the lens. In addition, Jordan is quite flat relative to the plane of focus and small misses will not be noticeable. I have long noticed that even old DSLRs like the 5D2 perform such tasks quite well. But if you shoot portraits in motion at 50mm or 85mm at close range - it will be a different matter.
Sooooo it’s an S5II in a fancy tuxedo? I’ve watched a bunch of these SL3s videos now, and have to say, this is the most honest and spot-on video about this camera that I’ve seen today. Well done!
I can't believe they went with the same sensor AGAIN. I love Leica's APO lenses and I wish they made cameras to match. I'll buy a used S5 II and get most of these features.
The Leice Q3 43 appeals to me, as do the other rangefinder shapes. But these Leica SLR style cameras do nothing for me. If I had silly money to spend on a camera I think I'd get a Hasselblad X2D - now that's a gorgeous camera.
I agree with all your points but dang it, I love how SL cameras handle. There is nothing else like it. The good thing is the used market isn't kind to SL's. I'll grab one in around a year when they are 1/2 the price. For now, the SL2-S is a good deal if you shoot manual focus. It's designed to work with M lenses and still shoots great video.
yea, I'm running around the internet being pretty hard on this camera but the fact of the matter is, there really isn't anything else like it. I love using my SL2-S and the articulating screen on this is almost enough to justify the upgrade cost to me. If only we could get an A1 or A9III in an SL3 body...
This camera doesn't make sense. The SL3 at least had Megapixels going for it. You are paying for the red badge, and that's ok if someone wants to do that but I can't imagine someone claiming it's for some feature outside of that.
I have the SL3 and love it. I don't believe in the idea that the SL system has the "Leica look," whatever that is supposed to be in the M series. But I love the SL3 and the SL2-S because of the user interface, after years of battling menu systems in Nikon, Fuji and Sony cameras. So, there's that. Also, I have two observations based on watching this review: 1) This is probably the last time Chris will get a Leica product months before release; 2) Given the extra pounds and the recent bone break, the Jordan autofocus test probably is not comparable to earlier tests. ;)
Got the Sl3 as soon as it came out and I am super pleased. I am not a sports photographer and I never do video work and this vewfinder with the outstanding lenses fits the bill perfectly for me.
Leica just isn't able to compete with Sony, Nikon or Canon when it gets to the software bits like AF etc. - and when you know that Sony produces the chips for their cams the whole thing gets demystified. There is not one single thing Leicas are better at other than you being able to show off.
I'd strongly argue the build quality, haptics and handling experience are hard to match. A lot of smart engineering on aspects that Sony etc. don't bother with because you cannot market it on spec sheets.
If it's an indication of S1 II level, Panasonic should just hang it up! Fortunately, this is rehoused S5II level in specs. In body prores with CFexpress is definitely not worth the premium unless you just want the Red Dot.
There is no chance that Panasonic will introduce S1II with this sensor. Panasonic has already squeezed everything possible out of this sensor. I'm sure Sony has something new for Panasonic. Maybe something like Nikon Z6III sensor or something else.
For this money you can buy so many good things. Several studio monoblocks and everything else to equip a small studio, a lot of optics and you will still have enough left over for a camera body of comparable capabilities.
I understand and agree with their point about it not being worth the price, and you can get cameras that perform the same or better for less money. However, I am having a hard time understanding why they don't apply that same logic to Leica's other cameras? He mentions how "the Q and M series are unique products that no one really touches". Granted, I am definitely one of the "un-initiated", but I don't see how those cameras are THAT unique as to warrant those prices. But he seems totally fine with them, and even thinks they're worth it by the sound of his other reviews. Seems like he just has a soft spot for rangefinders. I'd love to hear what makes those other cameras so unique though.
It’s because nobody else really makes anything like them. Using a separate viewfinder demands more internalization and visualization of the composition and it changes the way you shoot. I don’t have the money to get one myself but I always enjoy when I get to review the rangefinders because it is such a unique and fun experience. I usually fly fish with the same rods that most others are using but once in awhile I like to break out the bamboo rods because it’s such a different and even more limiting experience. Far more expensive and somewhat less practical but it’s about the enjoyment while doing it.
@niccollsvideo I see. I really need to try a rangefinder then! I should also look up videos comparing the Leica and Fuji. Do you get that same experience when you use the x100 or X-pro cameras?
@@BTEguitardude The "Rangefinder" Fujis feel like toys when you handle them side by side. Also there is nothing mechanical about their "rangefinders", no lens coupling whatsoever. On Fujis it's just glass with electronic overlays.
yes, a fair argument, Leica has been a rangefinder brand primarily, apart from the R4/5/6/8's slr's, but these where discontinued a while ago, and they make the M in film and digital, so why both form factors?, better to just stick to the rangefinder body, and use the slr form factor solely for the S2 line, MF digital systems, where YES that interface does make sense, like my hasselblad H1& H2 a simple interface, one focus point, and Only what you need; so great for professional studios, still life, food photography, and travel (like Hasselblads' X2D and X1D series bodies); advanced amateurs and pro shooters love this, and we don't do fast action, sports, or other genre's where the speed of the Nikon/Sony and Canon mirrorless systems come into their own. We go slow, and steady; so the fast pace doesn't matter as much. I shoot a Z6 and the Hassy's (500c/m and H1&H2 )for film, and the H's for both film and digital, but I choose which depending on what I am shooting, the z6 is my speed demon, if I need to shoot fast, otherwise I go to the Hassy's for image Quality and bokeh, that the Nikon just can't match!, I don't have the noct, way to over priced, I get the fast aperture by the Hassy's bigger sensors, as F2 for these systems is more like a f 1.4.
If you have the money for one of these, if you want quality pictures and something unique then why the hell wouldn't you get a medium format Hasselblad?
You wouldn't get this one for being unique. A X2D for example is almost unusable for plenty of photography styles. And Hasselblad service is atrocious, so is their quality control.
Man I really hope Panasonic and leica can get access to a newer sensor soon.. The 24mp IMX410 has been great, but it's also stunting them at this point
Doesn't seem too crazy. I wouldn't want to touch the Sony with a stick. Also the SL 24-70 creates much better looking images than the GM version. The Sony 28-70 f/2 is lighter, smaller than the Canon RF one but again, the Sony images just disappoint in comparison. Zero pop, they sacrificed it all for MTF charts.
Could you guys do a test between this and the Panasonic and see if you can see any differences in the "colour science" so we can really see if theres anything to that, given that the comparison will show what we think is the same sensor, we can use the same lenses and just see if Leica themselves are doing something different with the files.
You are mistaken if you believe that color science is intentionally baked in on a hardware level. It is not. Interpretation of sensor data is what matters and this is done in software. Their default profiles are different, that's all I know.
Certainly there is a price bump from the Leica brand, but I really feel other cameras with similar weather sealing, would cost more if they had to be actually certified. It puts a lot of stress in manufacturing if they had to test an actual rating for every other unit.
No full frame 60P makes this a no go. Might as well buy a lumix. This camera should not exist. Besides AF, not enough improvements. I saved a a lot of money today!
I believe SL3-S prices will drop rapidly like all previous SL camera bodies. Even Panasonic have marketing sense to make S9, cost down L-mount body based on S5II /S5IIx. If Leica use the same spec as SL3-S, but make it like the full-frame version of Leica CL (APS-C), it will be a more attractive choice at similar price point. Leica says SL series doesn't sell as well as Q or M series, but they still make something like SL3-S, which proofs they still don't understand reasons behind poor sales of SLs. Maybe they want to protect the sales of M series, but once they create and join L-mount alliance, they have to face direct competition with Lumix S.
Sorry...IF I am going go spend $5K+ on a camera...I'll just pick up the BEAST that is the Nikon Z9 with DOUBLE the MPs/Speed and so much more...not a dressed up Panasonic!!! 🤣
No. Leica and Panasonic have an official technology partnership called L2 after sharing technology unofficially for years. Leicas are basically rehoused Lumix at this point.
@@Ifatc Are you serious? Pretty much everything inside is different except most of the mainboard containing the SoC. They share the same brain, that's it.
Come on guys, a focus test using a person running at you is ridiculous as it was ten years go. But I am sure that was for the entertainment value only. I used to take pictures of runners with a Canon 40D and it could keep up with focusing. No doubt a great camera and probably a camera of choice for those obsessed with their own image.
Sometimes they are among the first to jump on new trends. Like SSD storage in the M11-P and content authenticity. Also their 5.76M dot viewfinders are hands-down better than Sony's 9.44M dots in every single camera except the A1 II. They could have gone the Sony-route and try to impress via spec-sheets but instead they overengineered their EVF implementation because they want to.
Can we just all agree that Leica is not doing anything revolutionary with any of their digital cameras? There’s no good justification for the prices - you’re paying for a name brand. The price is snobbery, period.
Is it their fault that nobody else is bold enough to create an M alternative? There is a small company called Pixii but their interpretation is not very tactile.
If you don’t expect to benefit from a stacked sensor or high res, and you love the look and feel of the brand, and you are wealthy enough where $2k vs $5k is no big deal, this does make sense. (I am not being sarcastic; it is not a high volume product and I have a hunch it will be back ordered.)
One person in the target audience seems to be Peter Coulson, who uses Leica SLs for available light portraits and adapts his old manual vintage lenses to it. The selling points here are simply best in class EVF and best focus peaking and exposure warnings. Sure, a lot of money for a couple of small improvements compared to something Sony or Canon or Nikon, but this makes it clear, that it’s not a camera for general purpose shooters.
In my opinion, you can't really compare Leica to other camera brands. These days, Leica has evolved into a luxury brand, and most people don’t buy it for practical reasons. It’s like comparing a Ferrari to a Mazda-two completely different worlds. There’s no rational explanation for why someone would spend so much money on a Leica instead of another brand, and that’s precisely where Leica has positioned itself. Their appeal is driven by emotion rather than practicality. That’s a bit of a shame, though, because Leica’s origins are rooted in practicality. When Oscar Barnack invented the Leica, it was designed for highly functional, practical everyday use by normal people, who were tired of lugging around big, heavy cameras and tripods.
It's for people who buy Canada Goose jackets or G wagons.... believing that things that cost 3x as much makes them better, and need everyone to know it...
I guess I'm not the target audience for this but I do understand why someone would buy something like the M-11 and I still find myself thinking about how dumb this product seems only 4 minutes in. I just cannot fathom why anyone would choose to buy this over literally anything else in the price range or even a couple thousand less than this, it's a regular modern full frame body with a nice UI at a gigantic markup.
It's super niche. I can see why you'd choose a SL3 over a A7R5 for example, and that's not just to gain access to the arguably best full frame lenses in existence. The SL3s perhaps as an overpriced second camera for SL3 pros to use for backup or video purposes.
I'm not beyond spending stupid amounts for a camera. My street (and street only) camera is a Leica Q3 43. And I'm not completely opposed to 24MP. My primary professional camera is a 24MP Canon. But . . . I don't see anything special here. There's no excuse for rolling shutter distortion in a 24MP sensor. A Canon R1 is in the same price range and its technology is at least two generations more advanced. A Sony a9iii provides 24MP without ANY distortion! Those cameras make better images and it's easier to make them. To answer your question . . . no, this camera doesn't tempt me at all.
Just a suggestion. If you're going to use the light table background (dirtiest light table ever as well), photoshop out the tiny hairs. They are off putting. Always enjoy the videos.
At that price point, I'm better off looking for the Sony A1 mk 1, way way better and I'm saving money, the Leica "Looks" can be achieved in post despite what everyone says.
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Leica: when you want a Panasonic camera but also want to spend an extra $3,000
With Sigma lens that require extra budget?
Lmfao
If Panasonic launched a sleeker camera with many fewer buttons and custom functions. The only appeal of the SL system for me is the simple to use, clean menu and body. Hate the look of Penny, although yes, no doubt it's a much better camera at a much lower price point.
What do you call a person who is a beginner at his hobby but buys the most expensive gear? A dentist.
When I was selling Leica's we had sooooo many dentists.... unreasonable old men were the only ones buying the SL cameras.
Kinda like buying a Rolex when a Casio is actually more accurate - both tell the time, but one of them is more a jewelry and status symbol
It surprises me each time how Chris can find something interesting to shoot in winter in Alberta, and makes great looking, attractive pictures.
Thank you very much! It’s a tough slog sometimes but I appreciate the support!
Lets start with saying that no Leica product is reasonable value
Film cameras are. You buy it once and pass it to your grand children.
@@agcouper that's just with any brand
@@kingghidorah8106 Leicas are the only ones with first party repair and parts though.
Also I am pretty sure the M mount is the oldest mount that still gets new lenses.
I actually feel the original Leica Q was a better value for money than the competing Sony Rx1.
@kylewist7745 at least they were pretty close
I love the class-leading Bluey camera in the background! Brings the show to a completely different level.....love it.
Hasselblad seems way more reasonable now.
Picture me impressed with Chris and Jordan’s ingrained ability to safely walk on ice with over $10k+ of camera gear between them.
Genuinely the best camera reviewers on this platform
Very good "non biased" review, nice to see that even although Leica invite you to their events etc you still provide an honest balanced review.
Of course! That’s what we have always endeavoured to do and I appreciate you noticing.
This is one of the most genuine reviews I’ve ever come across.
God, i love these well paced sample phot montages with that music. Extremely well done.
now it's Leica version of Lumix S5IIX
Honestly pretty impressed with the Jordan autofocus test at 500mm. I don't have the original pixels to peep, but those shots looked solid. The addition of the drone footage is great--seeing you use it is definitely a great endorsement for the Flip.
When photographing at such a distance, this is a fairly simple job for the lens. In addition, Jordan is quite flat relative to the plane of focus and small misses will not be noticeable. I have long noticed that even old DSLRs like the 5D2 perform such tasks quite well. But if you shoot portraits in motion at 50mm or 85mm at close range - it will be a different matter.
Sooooo it’s an S5II in a fancy tuxedo? I’ve watched a bunch of these SL3s videos now, and have to say, this is the most honest and spot-on video about this camera that I’ve seen today. Well done!
Rick Moranis would be proud of the Canadian humor in the bit at 5:48
I can't believe they went with the same sensor AGAIN. I love Leica's APO lenses and I wish they made cameras to match. I'll buy a used S5 II and get most of these features.
Do you want even higher resolving cameras than 61MP to make the most out of the APOs?
The Leice Q3 43 appeals to me, as do the other rangefinder shapes. But these Leica SLR style cameras do nothing for me. If I had silly money to spend on a camera I think I'd get a Hasselblad X2D - now that's a gorgeous camera.
yeah this camera is a hard sell when the X2D exists
At the same time, this is a do-anything camera while an X2D definitely is limiting.
I agree with all your points but dang it, I love how SL cameras handle. There is nothing else like it. The good thing is the used market isn't kind to SL's. I'll grab one in around a year when they are 1/2 the price. For now, the SL2-S is a good deal if you shoot manual focus. It's designed to work with M lenses and still shoots great video.
yea, I'm running around the internet being pretty hard on this camera but the fact of the matter is, there really isn't anything else like it. I love using my SL2-S and the articulating screen on this is almost enough to justify the upgrade cost to me.
If only we could get an A1 or A9III in an SL3 body...
That big Leica across the camera just makes it look cheesy
At least it's just engraved and not filled with white lacquer like the SL3.
What a majestic running performance by your awesome usually-behind-the-camera-model!
This camera doesn't make sense. The SL3 at least had Megapixels going for it. You are paying for the red badge, and that's ok if someone wants to do that but I can't imagine someone claiming it's for some feature outside of that.
Weren’t kidding when you said you’d be using more drone footage 😂 love it!
I have the SL3 and love it. I don't believe in the idea that the SL system has the "Leica look," whatever that is supposed to be in the M series. But I love the SL3 and the SL2-S because of the user interface, after years of battling menu systems in Nikon, Fuji and Sony cameras. So, there's that. Also, I have two observations based on watching this review: 1) This is probably the last time Chris will get a Leica product months before release; 2) Given the extra pounds and the recent bone break, the Jordan autofocus test probably is not comparable to earlier tests. ;)
Where is Jordan's part on the video capabilities?
Got the Sl3 as soon as it came out and I am super pleased. I am not a sports photographer and I never do video work and this vewfinder with the outstanding lenses fits the bill perfectly for me.
We need a truce where all the companies work to make one incredible journalist camera. Leica can make the body. But probably none of the internals.
Lol, Panasonic Panasonic Panasonic. Basically says a lot about Leica right now.
Heritage is just marketing guff
for the price grab a Sony A9 Gen 1 used.. a lot more features in a 24mp body
Leica just isn't able to compete with Sony, Nikon or Canon when it gets to the software bits like AF etc. - and when you know that Sony produces the chips for their cams the whole thing gets demystified. There is not one single thing Leicas are better at other than you being able to show off.
If you want a digital rangefinder, not really many options available. Your point stands with the SL series for sure though.
I like the minimalist UI. You could sell me one on that alone. Also, they’re beautiful.
I'd strongly argue the build quality, haptics and handling experience are hard to match. A lot of smart engineering on aspects that Sony etc. don't bother with because you cannot market it on spec sheets.
Love those big band jazzy drums. Good choice for Leica also. Pretentious, flashy, years of practicing but nothing to show for commercially.
The drone is being put to great use, great video!
I am not sure if it's the future Panasonic S1 II , Or a re-worked S5 II .. help me understand this
The specs and my gut say it's S5II - reborn
If it's an indication of S1 II level, Panasonic should just hang it up! Fortunately, this is rehoused S5II level in specs. In body prores with CFexpress is definitely not worth the premium unless you just want the Red Dot.
From the specs it looks like the Leica version of the S5 IIX.
There is no chance that Panasonic will introduce S1II with this sensor. Panasonic has already squeezed everything possible out of this sensor. I'm sure Sony has something new for Panasonic. Maybe something like Nikon Z6III sensor or something else.
Nice looking camera, hate that computer styled on/off button tho,
Animal detention works for Running-Jordan test! Bravo，Leica！
You got me with the bird sounds! I thought you were Grizzly Adams for a second.
For this money you can buy so many good things. Several studio monoblocks and everything else to equip a small studio, a lot of optics and you will still have enough left over for a camera body of comparable capabilities.
Would've loved to see "DID you know?" points going on for 5-10 minutes like a Family Guy skit.
Not worth it for most people.But a real luxury it is.Something like R3 or R1 is better for most.
I understand and agree with their point about it not being worth the price, and you can get cameras that perform the same or better for less money. However, I am having a hard time understanding why they don't apply that same logic to Leica's other cameras? He mentions how "the Q and M series are unique products that no one really touches". Granted, I am definitely one of the "un-initiated", but I don't see how those cameras are THAT unique as to warrant those prices. But he seems totally fine with them, and even thinks they're worth it by the sound of his other reviews. Seems like he just has a soft spot for rangefinders. I'd love to hear what makes those other cameras so unique though.
It’s because nobody else really makes anything like them. Using a separate viewfinder demands more internalization and visualization of the composition and it changes the way you shoot. I don’t have the money to get one myself but I always enjoy when I get to review the rangefinders because it is such a unique and fun experience. I usually fly fish with the same rods that most others are using but once in awhile I like to break out the bamboo rods because it’s such a different and even more limiting experience. Far more expensive and somewhat less practical but it’s about the enjoyment while doing it.
@niccollsvideo I see. I really need to try a rangefinder then! I should also look up videos comparing the Leica and Fuji. Do you get that same experience when you use the x100 or X-pro cameras?
@@BTEguitardude The "Rangefinder" Fujis feel like toys when you handle them side by side. Also there is nothing mechanical about their "rangefinders", no lens coupling whatsoever. On Fujis it's just glass with electronic overlays.
yes, a fair argument, Leica has been a rangefinder brand primarily, apart from the
R4/5/6/8's slr's, but these where discontinued a while ago, and they make the M in film and digital, so why both form factors?, better to just stick to the rangefinder body, and use the slr form factor solely for the S2 line, MF digital systems, where YES that interface does make sense, like my hasselblad H1& H2 a simple interface, one focus point, and Only what you need; so great for professional studios, still life, food photography, and travel (like Hasselblads' X2D and X1D series bodies); advanced amateurs and pro shooters love this, and we don't do fast action, sports, or other genre's where the speed of the Nikon/Sony and Canon mirrorless systems come into their own. We go slow, and steady; so the fast pace doesn't matter as much. I shoot a Z6 and the Hassy's (500c/m and H1&H2 )for film, and the H's for both film and digital, but I choose which depending on what I am shooting, the z6 is my speed demon, if I need to shoot fast, otherwise I go to the Hassy's for image Quality and bokeh, that the Nikon just can't match!, I don't have the noct, way to over priced, I get the fast aperture by the Hassy's bigger sensors, as F2 for these systems is more like a f 1.4.
Bluey Cam made the shelf!
Great video!!! Good review. Thnx a bunch.
When KEH sets up an operation IN Canada and lists in Canadian $$$, then I will consider them.
If you have the money for one of these, if you want quality pictures and something unique then why the hell wouldn't you get a medium format Hasselblad?
You wouldn't get this one for being unique. A X2D for example is almost unusable for plenty of photography styles. And Hasselblad service is atrocious, so is their quality control.
thank you for your honest opinion.
Everyone loves Leica but never says that it is actually just expensive and mediocre
It's either expensive or mediocre. The Pana S5 II is a good camera, so this is arguably even better. But it is simply overpriced.
at least hasselblad made somethng unique
Do you mean DJI?
Very happy Leica have remade the Panasonic S1.
Please charge the battery!
Let's be honest, value isn't high on the agenda for most Leica customers.
I definitely agree, if i want a Leica im going to get what they do best and no one else does. But I won't because i obviously can't afford it 😭
I've never used a Leica but that menu looks slick
Man I really hope Panasonic and leica can get access to a newer sensor soon.. The 24mp IMX410 has been great, but it's also stunting them at this point
10:05 also weather sealing differences afaik Lumix doesn't have IP54
Crazy how the a7rV with the 28-70 f2 is still cheaper than the SL3 with the Vario-Elmarit-SL 24-70 2.8
Doesn't seem too crazy. I wouldn't want to touch the Sony with a stick. Also the SL 24-70 creates much better looking images than the GM version. The Sony 28-70 f/2 is lighter, smaller than the Canon RF one but again, the Sony images just disappoint in comparison. Zero pop, they sacrificed it all for MTF charts.
13:26 Jerry Springer grade Final Thought
Could you guys do a test between this and the Panasonic and see if you can see any differences in the "colour science" so we can really see if theres anything to that, given that the comparison will show what we think is the same sensor, we can use the same lenses and just see if Leica themselves are doing something different with the files.
You are mistaken if you believe that color science is intentionally baked in on a hardware level. It is not. Interpretation of sensor data is what matters and this is done in software. Their default profiles are different, that's all I know.
Sure the camera is interesting, but I am just here to say that the color grade on this review looks fabulous.
Certainly there is a price bump from the Leica brand, but I really feel other cameras with similar weather sealing, would cost more if they had to be actually certified.
It puts a lot of stress in manufacturing if they had to test an actual rating for every other unit.
Can’t wait for the influx of second hand SL2-S
greetings is 12 bit external video open gate?
No full frame 60P makes this a no go. Might as well buy a lumix. This camera should not exist. Besides AF, not enough improvements. I saved a a lot of money today!
Looks like Leica has finally kept up to the Sony A7 III Performance
😊👍
I believe SL3-S prices will drop rapidly like all previous SL camera bodies. Even Panasonic have marketing sense to make S9, cost down L-mount body based on S5II /S5IIx.
If Leica use the same spec as SL3-S, but make it like the full-frame version of Leica CL (APS-C), it will be a more attractive choice at similar price point.
Leica says SL series doesn't sell as well as Q or M series, but they still make something like SL3-S, which proofs they still don't understand reasons behind poor sales of SLs.
Maybe they want to protect the sales of M series, but once they create and join L-mount alliance, they have to face direct competition with Lumix S.
Sorry...IF I am going go spend $5K+ on a camera...I'll just pick up the BEAST that is the Nikon Z9 with DOUBLE the MPs/Speed and so much more...not a dressed up Panasonic!!! 🤣
Does it offer 4K 100 / 120?
Honest question; does the Leica’s processing engine surpass the Panasonic’s?
No. Leica and Panasonic have an official technology partnership called L2 after sharing technology unofficially for years. Leicas are basically rehoused Lumix at this point.
@ dang.
@@Ifatc Are you serious? Pretty much everything inside is different except most of the mainboard containing the SoC. They share the same brain, that's it.
👏 for jordan, being such a good sport👏
Did Leica just make the Nikon Z6ii?
What a beautiful camera! I mean the red dot, nothing else.
Come on guys, a focus test using a person running at you is ridiculous as it was ten years go. But I am sure that was for the entertainment value only. I used to take pictures of runners with a Canon 40D and it could keep up with focusing. No doubt a great camera and probably a camera of choice for those obsessed with their own image.
I'm not as big a camera nerd as I once was, but it always feels like Leica's cameras are packed with 5 year old technology.
Sometimes they are among the first to jump on new trends. Like SSD storage in the M11-P and content authenticity. Also their 5.76M dot viewfinders are hands-down better than Sony's 9.44M dots in every single camera except the A1 II.
They could have gone the Sony-route and try to impress via spec-sheets but instead they overengineered their EVF implementation because they want to.
Nice bit with the bird sounds. :P
Can we just all agree that Leica is not doing anything revolutionary with any of their digital cameras? There’s no good justification for the prices - you’re paying for a name brand. The price is snobbery, period.
I disagree. The Q-series is unique in many ways.
@@nicolamoscelli8143well, you’ve sold me lol.
Is it their fault that nobody else is bold enough to create an M alternative? There is a small company called Pixii but their interpretation is not very tactile.
olympus has fallen .. Pentax has fallen but Leica still alive .. how? we need to figure out.
So a s5ii but at triple the price for the logo
Did you skip maths class?
I’d get an SL3s to use M lenses on, but thats it.
Leica has lost their mind. Looking forward to the Lumix S1R Mark 2.
If you don’t expect to benefit from a stacked sensor or high res, and you love the look and feel of the brand, and you are wealthy enough where $2k vs $5k is no big deal, this does make sense. (I am not being sarcastic; it is not a high volume product and I have a hunch it will be back ordered.)
One person in the target audience seems to be Peter Coulson, who uses Leica SLs for available light portraits and adapts his old manual vintage lenses to it. The selling points here are simply best in class EVF and best focus peaking and exposure warnings. Sure, a lot of money for a couple of small improvements compared to something Sony or Canon or Nikon, but this makes it clear, that it’s not a camera for general purpose shooters.
I have a Q3 for street. For other lenses I stick to my Nikon system...
A whopping 7 frames a second 14bit. Game changer.
thanks!!
We’re just leading up to the S1H2. That is the camera you’re all waiting for video. S1R2 for stills. They won’t do anything that sabotages those
Not that I use AF or video, but these results look 10 years old. Heck, the running test looks like an APS-C Rebel from 2009.
ill buy it when the sl4 comes out for half the price
Leica really hit it out of the ball park with this. A feature rich camera at a rock bottom price? I can definitely respect the hell out of that!
In my opinion, you can't really compare Leica to other camera brands. These days, Leica has evolved into a luxury brand, and most people don’t buy it for practical reasons. It’s like comparing a Ferrari to a Mazda-two completely different worlds. There’s no rational explanation for why someone would spend so much money on a Leica instead of another brand, and that’s precisely where Leica has positioned itself. Their appeal is driven by emotion rather than practicality. That’s a bit of a shame, though, because Leica’s origins are rooted in practicality. When Oscar Barnack invented the Leica, it was designed for highly functional, practical everyday use by normal people, who were tired of lugging around big, heavy cameras and tripods.
I totally agree, except in the case of the SL series, because this is like comparing an original Fiero to a Fiero with a Ferrari body kit on it.
It's for people who buy Canada Goose jackets or G wagons.... believing that things that cost 3x as much makes them better, and need everyone to know it...
I don't really mind paying Leica taxes, but technically behind, with little or no improvement over Panasonic siblings leave me baffled
The SL body still looks 3D printed.
I guess I'm not the target audience for this but I do understand why someone would buy something like the M-11 and I still find myself thinking about how dumb this product seems only 4 minutes in. I just cannot fathom why anyone would choose to buy this over literally anything else in the price range or even a couple thousand less than this, it's a regular modern full frame body with a nice UI at a gigantic markup.
It's super niche. I can see why you'd choose a SL3 over a A7R5 for example, and that's not just to gain access to the arguably best full frame lenses in existence.
The SL3s perhaps as an overpriced second camera for SL3 pros to use for backup or video purposes.
S stands for sexy ? stupid ? superman ? sausage ?
Sausage !
i think Slighlty cheaper
hope
Stupid Super Sexy 3S
Snobby.
Still that power button.
I'm not beyond spending stupid amounts for a camera. My street (and street only) camera is a Leica Q3 43. And I'm not completely opposed to 24MP. My primary professional camera is a 24MP Canon. But . . . I don't see anything special here. There's no excuse for rolling shutter distortion in a 24MP sensor. A Canon R1 is in the same price range and its technology is at least two generations more advanced. A Sony a9iii provides 24MP without ANY distortion! Those cameras make better images and it's easier to make them. To answer your question . . . no, this camera doesn't tempt me at all.
0:25 Yes, Yes, and a definite no
Someone is playing with their new toy drone
Just a suggestion. If you're going to use the light table background (dirtiest light table ever as well), photoshop out the tiny hairs. They are off putting. Always enjoy the videos.
It drives me mad, keep looking at them instead of the photos :)
why would you buy a private 747?
I would not buy this camera.
Okay.
Okay to you okay... okay?@mrherusantoso
Good for you
At that price point, I'm better off looking for the Sony A1 mk 1, way way better and I'm saving money, the Leica "Looks" can be achieved in post despite what everyone says.
I love my Leicas. This one? Not a chance. Too little…too late…too much.