Shortbed VS Longbed: Why Do I Buy A Standard Bed To Tow My Fifth Wheel When Longbed Is Better?
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- Shorted VS Longbed? This has been a common question I get from my viewers so I figured this video would help answer some questions regarding || Like || Subscribe || Share || #GMCSierra #at4
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The Ford Long Beds also come with a large fuel tank.
Love my short bed but yeah with my new gasser I would have loved that 48 gal tank
@@ck3561 I've mostly had short beds, my previous truck was a Ford long bed dually with 48-gallon tank which was great. I may add a S&B tank to my current Ram short bed for extended range. I also went from a 5th wheel to a smaller travel trailer (Black Series) which changes perspective.
Having a long bed truck and being forced to park way out in the boonies of a parking lot isn't so bad. If anything, it has a couple of advantages. For one, you get more exercise by walking back and forth. Second, you never get door dings because almost no one parks around you. As a bonus, you get to clearly look at and admire your truck as you walk away and walk back to it.
I do the same with my standard bed.
Std. bed here and I still park way out. Only 15” shorter so it still is a monster in most lots.
My Dually Long Bed fits in Costco stalls just fine, backing in is easiest. They painted those double parking lines just for me 🙂
I park way out in the boonies no matter what I’m driving just because I don’t want some idiot parking his rusty shitbox next to my rig and door dinging me.
I have a short bed 22 Ford F-150 tremor. I park it in the boonies anyway
Having a long bed means that you can carry more stuff. Coming from a short bed 3/4 ton truck to a 1 ton long bed, I feel that it tows better and you aren’t worried about your cab when you are towing a gooseneck or fifth wheel.
Used to go short bed every time. Switched to a long bed and man it rides better, tows better, holds more and provides a larger fuel tank! Win win 👍. I’m definitely more interested in usefulness vs. looks!
In Texas it so easy to find parking spots with long bed
I ordered a 350 Long bed mainly because I wanted a Goose neck for my 5th wheel and I wanted to carry a Portable transfer tank. If not for that I would NEVER have ordered a long bed. You are spot on in your video
Kind of funny that the tiny bed is now considered the "standard" bed! I towed a 45' gooseneck living quarter horse trailer and a 24' GN flat bed for years, never considered a short bed truck. I have never owned a short bed truck but when I had my Ram in the shop getting brakes changed, the dealership gave me a new Ram 2500 diesel crew cab short bed as a loaner for the day. My Ram 3500 dually crew cab long bed rides better than the 2500 loaner truck. A lot of positives with a long bed truck, but a negative of the Ram crew cab long bed is it's a long truck which can suck in some cities when parking.
I miss the days when the long bed was the “standard” bed and you had to TRY to find a short bed. Now I have to TRY to find a long bed because they’re almost impossible to find. Nobody actually does truck stuff with trucks anymore. They just want to look like they do truck stuff when they’re dropping the kids off at school.
Then there’s me, spending $8,000 to have my Mega Cab Ram dually converted to a long bed because I love the mega cab, but a soccer mom truck bed doesn’t haul enough crap. I don’t care how long it is.
I went from a short to a long bed in a Ram. It is more difficult to park but man that longer bed rides better. It has also come in handy so many times hauling wood or so many other things I couldn't count
Yea brother got a 21 diesel Ram long box she rides like a dream!
JB, love all the comparisons you roll out . in my past i have had 1 short bed. she looked cool. since i grew up to 4 doors 8' bed, she looks mean . & when you pay for all that metal, more is better. if people complain about a long bed to park, practice! 2x4s are 8' i love a long sleek truck! they make a statement! anyhow thanks for the video.
Great video in pointing out the advantages/disadvantages of each. I had a true short bed (6') with a sliding 5th wheel hitch that I rarely needed to use as long as I paid attention to what I was doing. My next truck was a long bed, but the inconvenience of parking and maneuverability far outweighed the extra cab-to-trailer clearance I gained. I now went back to a "standard" bed which is now 6.75' and got rid of the slider hitch for a new BW Companion. Like you, I have no need for the extra bed length and notice no difference in towing stability when towing the same 36' trailer.
I was kinda like you before I got my long bed Ram 3500. I have almost 4200 lb payload.
With all the cameras on my truck, I put that truck into some unbelievable spots. Granted it won’t go everywhere I’ve found it not to be an issue.
It rides a little bit better and I was able to put my toolbox and my aux tank in the truck. Basically the toolbox takes up the extra bed space and it’s like a short bed Ram inside the bed for me. I like having my air compressor and some basic tools with me.
I think once you try a long bed, you won’t go back and it has a better resale value because of the commercial folks wanting that type of truck.
My brothers big horn has over 4400 lbs payload! Only 400 lbs less than the vaunted F450.
I think it really comes down to how you're going to use your truck. Do you tow more than 50% of the time? Long bed. Do you daily drive your truck more than 50% of the time? Short bed. I've had both and man it's a PITA sometimes going through a drive-thru or plain ol parking in a mall parking lot with a longbed. Does it tow a lot better? Yes. Can you put more in your bed? Obviously. I've also noticed it's a lot harder making those sharp turns into a camp spot when camping at a KOA or similar with a long bed. Also, what is your parking situation at home? Can you back your trailer up into your driveway/backyard with a long bed? I live in a cul-de-sac and a long bed with a 37+ foot trailer would be challenging if doable at all. Everyone's situation is different and you should get what works for you.
Get a secondary transfer tank and tool box, it will transform your life. Being able to tow 600+ miles easily on a tank and still have a regular bed available.
I agree. I run a 60 gallon transfer tank that’s plumbed into my regular tank. Just turn on the pump to refuel on the fly. I can run 800 miles towing my trailer and something like 1,100 unloaded. I’m considering also getting a 52 gallon regulator tank. It’s only 34 gallons now.
Long bed and a regular cab for me. I have no need for a back seat. I can park anywhere and haul pretty much anything with no concerns
I’ll take the extra bed length and larger fuel capacity every day of the week. I’ve been cussing myself for buying a short bed for the last 5 years. I need a larger auxiliary tank in the bed than the one I currently have as well.
ATTA tanks in fortworth will build a custom tank that will go by the measurements u want and they can go up to 100 gal
My next diesel I’ll go with the long bed.
I totally agree with you on the longbed trying to park, I have a longbed dually, trying to park in a standard parking lot space can be a chore sometimes.
Longbed always for me. I throw a 100gal tank in the bed every time. Towing a 30' fifthwheel West Montana to gulf coast of Texas the fuel saved me more than once when I was 30 miles until empty in the middle of no where Wyoming or when I underestimated fuel burn going through passes. The reserve is always worth it for me. Toss in fuling equipment and the extra weight in the snow and it was a win win for me. Also loved the ability to shop for fuel. "oh diesel is cheaper by a few cents at this station. Great I'll take all I can get"
And I take one step further and get a extended cab short bed, much better turning radius, and most things I haul will just destroy a pickup bed pretty quick unless you are extremely careful loading and unloading, plus the tailgate really messed it up for loading with a forklift. So trailers are my main thing for hauling anything. To me it's like having a tractor trailer. I know the fords atleast you have to have the short bed ext cab to get the short wheelbase.
Nice review. I think if I didn’t have to drive my truck everyday I would want a long bed over the short bed, but these new GM trucks are just huge. It’s tough getting around some places even with my standard bed as it is. A long bed would be a nightmare lol.
But they definitely have their advantages. I think that white AT4 would just be awesome with a black weatherguard tool box in it and that’s how I would go if I went long bed. I’d get a tool box in place of a bed cover I think.
Also I want to point out that while Ford May increase their payload pretty significantly for their long bed, GM isn’t making you compromise for getting the short bed since their GVWR is a lot higher than Fords to begin with. A 2500 GM will typically have an 11,350 GVWR for a diesel so that’s right there with Fords 350 SRW diesels. I know the GM trucks are heavier but similar optioned trucks it’s pretty close in weight.
Long Bed = 48 Gallon Fuel Tank. When you tow your 5th wheel trailer with that new 2023 F-350 Platinum Godzilla V8 at 10mpg loaded, the extra distance between fill ups seems like a no brainer 🤷♂️
who gets 10mpg pulling a 5th wheel camper????? Best i ever got pulling my camper is 8.9 mpg and that was with a 35 mph tail wind going downhill......
@@garyc4983 I’m generalizing Gary for easy math
I have a 2022 2500 Duramax Silverado with the standard bed. It’s still close to 7 feet long. I’m glad you mentioned parking. I barely fit my truck in most spots and that’s without the long bed. It’s one thing if you really need it, but most people probably don’t. The standard bed is plenty big. It’s not some 5 foot short bed. My trailer weighs 12k empty and I’m rated for 18,500 towing and 3,350 payload. I’m well within all of my limits and have never had any issues. It’s already a pain to park it. I’m happy with the standard bed. JB, great 👍 video.
Thanks for sharing bro 👍🏾👍🏾
If you have a long bed with a 4 door, just park in Canada & hike in.
For trucks or any vehicle [on or off-road], just like tools: there's a right tool for the job [I can hear my Dad, haha!]
Long bed great for plywood & sheetrock, or at least they used to be.
RUclips suggested you, tossing you a sub, my friend. I dig your explanation.
I have a 2004 Chevy 3500 4x4 crewcab dually long bed 8.1 it is my truck that stays hooked to my 25ft gooseneck. Love it , it feels so much better hauling a heavy load then my 2001 Chevy 2500hd Excab 4x4 , 6.5 bed, Duramax LB7. Even though my Duramax has more pulling power in my 3/4 ton the 3500 dually just has the feeling of so much more stability hauling heavy loads. I do have my 2001 Chevy 2500HD Duramax set up to pull my fifth wheel RV camper 25ft which it does a excellent job but it only weighs 6,000 lbs.
Long bed is great for truck campers as the CG works better with the axle location. Cheers
Good points bro! I’ll most likely go long bed next go around. Easier to stack our kayaks and tent camping gear when we aren’t towing the RV. It’s nice that GM puts the fifth wheel hitch behind the axel for more cab clearance on short beds. But as someone already mentioned I would feel more comfortable with the weight slightly forward of the axel on a long bed for a more evenly distributed load.🇺🇸💪
Thanks man, I really prefer the shortbed despite less flexibility compared to the Longbed 🇺🇸💪🏾
@@JB_WhoWork I should say unless I could find a deal on a Dually Mega Cab🤘
@@supporterofsanity 💪🏾💪🏾
I have a 2010 chevy 2500HD long bed extended cab with a topper
Long bed here. I don't always love the extra length of the truck, but I sure do love the 8 foot box when I have shit to haul. And even a 4 door HD with a shorter bed is still a massive truck, so I'll take that extra utility and deal with the extra 18 overall length.
However, if the bed length made the difference between indoor and outdoor parking, I'd definitely go with the shorter bed. Outdoor parking is a no-go for me.
For towing my fifth wheel I went with RAM long bed with high output. Best towing experience. That Cummins was hard to pass.
For me, a short bed has a benefit for “getting in and out of town”.
Finding and maneuvering in tighter roads, it’s easier for parking etc.
But, as you stated. If your a fifth wheel, FT RVer….
I would get the king bed just for the clearance and added storage.
I have a 45gal tank/toolbox combo in my short bed silverado, and still have plenty of room for my 5th wheel hitch.
The looks! I really do not like the look of ANY long bed. I needed a dually but refused to get a long bed. So I got a mega cab dually. Yes I know it’s the same wheelbase as a long bed. Love my truck 👍🏻
It’s funny how opinions differ. I’m the exact opposite. I think the short beds look bad on 4 door trucks. You have this big long 4 door cab, then a goofy little stubby bed. It looks out of proportion. A short bed on a regular 2 door cab looks fine though.
I’m glad there’s so many options.
I think most people would agree with you! I too am glad there are so many options. Glad we’re not all driving the same truck! 🇺🇸
Have a 22 F350 long bed lariat SRW (factory 5th Wheel 19K) my only issue with my 5th wheel is I can't fully back with the tailgate down (Have to line up pin then shut tailgate) same in reverse when setting up. My 5th wheel is a Cougar 27SGS so it is a shorter length, but that is my main annoying part of having the long bed (told the short bed doesn't have this problem?) Just something for folks to consider when making a decision. Space and towing capacity is great so not a total deal breaker and yes parking can be challenging in the city ;)
Yeah, I hear ya. It also means you need another couple feet of depth in your garage if you keep your truck in your garage. My garage is 24ft deep IIRC, just enough to park my F350 and be able to walk in front of without feeling cramped.
The biggest benefit of the LB is the payload. You get something like 6-800lbs of payload out of that length.
But this is also one of those things that never ends. If you get a LB why not get a dually, same length, mirrors stick out the side just as much as the wheels -- get another 800-1200lbs payload over the CCLB. Honestly, personally, I'd go dually if I was going to get a LB -- with the wide front axle for that tighter turn radius (eg F450).
I'll be sticking with the CCSB until I have no other choice.
Loading sheet goods is a ton better with a long bed.
Great video I have a 22 Chev long bed my biggest complaint is going down I 15 in ut it bounces or jumps annoying but great video keep them coming
To me I need a long bed. As a carpenter I need to able to pickup items and be able to shut my tailgate. I would forgo the crew cab and get the super cab Ford definitely over the GMC extra cab. As that's a poor design. The crew cab isn't that much bigger from a standard bed. It's around a foot and a half. So if you have problems parking around then you still must have the same problem with a standard bed.
Go big or go home. 8 foot is best.
Herein lies the whole problem…….city boyz think a short bed is “Standard” when a short bed truck is rather useless!!! Standard means being able to haul sheets of plywood, bales of hay, bags of fertilizer…….I.E. using a truck for a truck!
All depends on what the use is. It is useful for those who find it useful and not so useful for those who need more.
Agree. You buying a truck or a yuppie toy? I don't give a shit about contrasting leather seating. I want an 8 foot bed that I can haul drywall or siding.
Exactly what I say. Short bed trucks are for yuppies that want to look like they do truck stuff while they sit in the Starbucks drive through.
I'm going to drive my truck until the wheels fall off, but if I ever come across an older long bed powerstroke, I'm going for it.
long bed park out back and walk its good for ya
Stop being stubborn and get that long bed! There is so much space for activities!
I wish I would have bought a one ton long bed, now that I tow a fifth wheel.
Had a long bed, went to a short bed, twice! Any new future truck will have the long bed. Once you figure out how much you use it, it is hard to have the shorter “standard” bed.
JB, put in your order for the ‘24 dually with the new interior!
I simply like my short/ standard bed cuz it fits in my garage! Nothing more nothing less🤷🏾♂️
Yup, a garage means you don’t have to wash it as much lol!
One thing you forgot to discuss is the gooseneck/kingpin coupler location difference. The long bed puts that location slightly forward of the rear axle and on my '23 3500 LB DRW with the B&W Companion, it distributes about 150 lbs. (out of 3000) of the pin weight to the front axle. On my friend's truck with a standard bed, the coupler location is few inches behind the centerline of the rear axle (for cab clearance) and this transfers about 400 lbs. off the front axle to the rear and actually adds 3400 to the rear axle even thought the pin weight is only 3000. With bigger trailers (13K plus) this causes rear squat, lighter steering, and combined with the shorter wheelbase it can be less stable.
My 44', triple axle toy hauler tows like a dream behind my long bed dually. I had to borrow my friends '22 standard bed for a short 80 mile trip while I waited for my new truck and there is a VERY noticeable difference in handling, comfort and for me, even stress!
Ford is crazy with the bs payload on the short bed superduty. But I just didn’t want the log bed for when not towing.., But the 11500 gvwr?!?! Come on Ford!
I’m sure the longer bed probably rides a bit better
I like trucks that keep the gvwr under 12k so when you tow a 14k trailer you are under the 26k for needing a cdl.
How can they require you to have a CDL for a private truck?
Bingo, but you can't find this anymore. I think the cdl laws are pretty dumb. I can't drive my 12k gvw trailer with a very capable 4500 ford/chevy/ram because cdl is necessary. But I can pull a 16kgvw in my less capable 2500 srw
If you use HD truck as a daily driver you better of with a short bed but if you're using your truck mostly for fifth wheels a long bed is better
I notice you say you don’t have any need…. When I Buy truck, I buy more than I need, so I’m never limited on what I can pull or carry and my opportunities endless.
Your truck will carry whatever you throw in the bed, till the front tires start dancing on the highway. been there, done that. Always made it home?
It's hard to find a 6.5 bed on the Tundras.
To load a Harley Davidson Heritage which one would you choose? 🤓 and I would be pulling at the same time an Airstream Travel Trailer of 27’. Any opinion will be appreciated.
Only $200 more for long bed
Longer bed comes with a bigger fuel tank Ik ford does thst
TRUCKS have always been standard with an 8' bed... Hence the verbage "short" bed.. Hmmm. for the younger crowd..
Disagree. If you have the longer bed, you'll use it at some point.
Hello, I have a truck like yours. I have a 5th wheel. I noticed you use the goosebox. I have the regular rhino kingpin. Do you have better turning radius with the goosebox? Or is it the same as what rhino?
Good video 😀 like your review of both truck let me adress the parking problem justrailt park away from other people but your going to have to walk farther away most people don't want to do that 😉 let them drive a small car I saw your truck and trailer it's starting to sqwt you could be at max of trailer weight 🫢 I also have a long bed chevy crew cab and plan to go back to dully 2024 chevy Silverado duramax and in saying that some fifth wheel trailer are starting to weigh more shure it will pull the rig but can you stop it safely in California speed limit is 55 I think in Utah 65 or 70 your trailer brakes are not going to stop at that speed trailer brakes should be disc not drum so some rig's are showing front frame damage at that speed so just saying just because the truck can tow 21 thousand pounds doesn't mean you're really can safely and for dully about 30 thousand pounds so I think I can tow about 16 or 17 dry if I go heavier have move up 5500 truck just my opinion since your new rig you need to drive long distance 500 to 1000 miles to if it works for you 😄
I find the 4 doors make these trucks too long. Why not stick with a 2 door extended cab and the 8 foot box.
City boy! City boy!
I only have long bed, and never would get a short bed. Never.
They key your truck because they are evil.
hi jb whats the length difference ??
Standard bed 6’10” longbed is 8’
Do you use your 3500HD as daily driver?
Interesting how a short bed has become the standard bed and the standard bed has become the long bed.
Longbed is cheaper where I live
The new standard beds being 6'11 there isnt much difference.
If you use it to work and put stuff in the bed it’s a world of difference. This video describes it well, short beds are perfect for the “city boy” towing his camper. Nothing wrong with that it’s just the truth
6’11”? My ‘22 CCSB is 6’9”. They lengthen them?
@@GettingAGrip208 in that same light, long beds are perfect for the "country boy" doing cattle drives. In reality, use cases are varied and arent described by a simple term. Buy what you need or want.
@@ALMX5DP yeah exactly, I don’t think anyones arguing that. But id say the long bed is more for most “working” situations. 8ft sheetrock, 8ft boards, room for toolbox and fuel tank with room leftover, lots of reasons
@@GettingAGrip208 all depends what the working situation is. If your works needs a long bed, get a long bed. If your works needs a van, get a van. If your works needs a short bed, get a short bed. I feel people put a value or interpret work as a hierarchy when really it’s just different strokes.
I never understood why people would even buy a short bed. There is no positive yo it
4x8 sheets of plywood
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long bed only =]
The bed size makes no difference in cost.
A standard bed is actually the long bed.
RAM has the MegaCab which is the best truck on the road!
Sure but in the context of this video it has an incredibly short bed.
It does compared to JB’s GMC. But it will probably do all I need it to do. All these trucks are nice & excellent vehicles. I would be happy with any one of them. Drove a client’s new F350 KR from FL to VA for him. Great truck. It had the long bed & wasn’t any more difficult to drive than my Ram Longhorn LTD MegaCab. But I like the inside of my Ram and the Cummins. All of them have things to like & things we’d probably like to change. JB is smart to expand his channel & I like that he is bringing us new insight to all these trucks. Look forward to his Ford content & when he wises up & returns to RAM on the next gen update😊
@@Over_the_Hill_RV_Rookies oh totally, I'd probably be just fine with a 6' bed. My current F-150 has the 6'7" bed and it's fine but for my uses. Would love a Mega Cab as the back seats look downright luxurious.
They are. I’m 6’3 & have so much leg room even with the front seats all the way back. But then again no one gets to drive it but me so I never sit in the back😂. I could also comfortably sleep back there if I had to. I do really like all these modern trucks. I rent pickups all the time when I travel. F150 is a great truck.
Long is better pause
Nice but I hate long beds lol
Short beds are awful. I never buy short beds as they are useless and can’t even hold standard 8’ building supplies or wood. If you never carry and lumber, then have at a short bed, but if you use your truck to work, short beds are a waste.
Talkin in circles bud, just say it ,....the shorter bed looks cooler