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  • 1995 Quebec Referendum -
    Breaking Point (French: Point de rupture) is a Canadian documentary film, released in 2005. Aired on CBC Television in English and on Télévision de Radio-Canada in French and released to mark the tenth anniversary of the 1995 Quebec sovereignty referendum, the film explored the dynamics of the referendum campaign through interviews with and news clips of several of the major players on both sides of the debate.
    Directed by Jackie Corkery
    Written by: Hubert Gendron
    Starring: Judith M. Atkinson, Lucien Bouchard, Henry Champ
    Production company: CBC Television
    Release date: October 30, 2005
    Country: Canada
    Language: English
    Source: Wikipedia.

Комментарии • 292

  • @TheLolbot3000
    @TheLolbot3000 4 года назад +91

    This is the third time I’ve watched this documentary over the last few years and I come from Australia. Incredible job from CBC!

    • @capitol130
      @capitol130 3 года назад +3

      Looking for some good Aussie political docs on RUclips. Have any suggestions?

    • @jaredkebbell443
      @jaredkebbell443 3 года назад +1

      @@capitol130 Try this 4 part documentary on John Howard: ruclips.net/video/nivMh3T7p-Y/видео.html

    • @ef888
      @ef888 3 года назад +2

      My second!

    • @d0uel776
      @d0uel776 3 года назад +5

      They did the same documentary in french and it's like looking at 2 different point of view.

    • @MrViyasan
      @MrViyasan 3 года назад

      Is there a documentary on the 1975 dismissal?

  • @charleskobold115
    @charleskobold115 4 года назад +40

    I'm a US citizen so it would be in poor taste to offer a political opinion in these regards but I can say that this documentary was exceptionally well done! You can feel the intensity.

  • @liban1685
    @liban1685 6 лет назад +131

    That "money and ethnics" quote poisoned the movement for 3 generations. How incredibly stupid and misguided.

    • @jwcorcoran9838
      @jwcorcoran9838 6 лет назад +27

      Imagine how Bouchard would've felt. Poor guy. (I'm a federalist btw)

    • @aburg10s
      @aburg10s 6 лет назад +8

      I think had they focused on Quebec as a nation for all Francopones in the Americas, they would have won easily.

    • @agnosticarab8964
      @agnosticarab8964 5 лет назад +49

      I was 17 back then and was for the yes campaign as most of my friends were québécois. I’m lebanese and I am fluent in québécois french. Parizeau’s words felt like a knife in the back. I suddenly felt I wasn’t part of the “nous”, ie. to the eyes of all white francophone Quebecers, I was an outsider and my rights under a sovereign Quebec wasn’t guaranteed. I moved since to Vancouver. Je me souviens Parizeau!

    • @mckernan603
      @mckernan603 5 лет назад +24

      Yes, he gave off an obnoxious elitism this entire documentary. As a New Hampshirite, I’m so glad our neighbor Quebec remained a nation of idealism instead of a vulgar ethno-state like, par exemple, the Donetsk People’s Republic.

    • @Buckshot99
      @Buckshot99 5 лет назад +21

      He was speaking the truth of what he really believed,...and that is the ugly part of most Quebec sovereignists.

  • @careydepass130
    @careydepass130 4 года назад +20

    This documentary is very emotional. It brought me back to those stressful days.

    • @stevelalancette6988
      @stevelalancette6988 2 года назад +2

      Yes, it was great, even if I lost this referendum. But don't worry, you'll live that again soon. We still are not in your constitution and you still don't accept us. hahhahaha

  • @bradsmith1934
    @bradsmith1934 8 лет назад +57

    I remember this time in history well. Very tense evening of the vote. I recall the elderly in that time, (ppl in their 80's) blaming Charles De Gaulle for putting a match to that firestorm in the 1960's.

    • @shadyberero6809
      @shadyberero6809 4 года назад +1

      Charles de Gaulle elected the PQ?

    • @d0uel776
      @d0uel776 3 года назад +4

      @@shadyberero6809 Charles de Gaule did a Speech that ignite a incredible fire in the heart of Quebecois.

    • @leocadieux6781
      @leocadieux6781 3 года назад +4

      Even without Charles de Gaulle the independence movement would have existed :p

    • @warilban
      @warilban 3 года назад +5

      @@leocadieux6781 That's true. The problem was that it wasn't in his place to say that and he was out of line. Noticed how Chiraq and Clinton was refraining until they got completely cornered. de Gaulle stepped out of line and even his own party back in Paris condemned him.

    • @denelson83
      @denelson83 2 года назад +2

      It's like De Gaulle lit the fire, only for Parizeau to snuff it out.

  • @rstevens1836
    @rstevens1836 Год назад +7

    I've watched this doc 10 times or so. Captivating and educational about Canada and Quebec and the bitter differences between the two. I hope I can visit Quebec and learn more about the people, culture, and learn both sides of the separation/unification issue. Learn some Francais too. I hope for peace between Canada and Quebec and any province or territory who wants to secede. Let's not go back to the violent nightmare Quebec was back in the 60's s'il te plaît!

  • @alaincaissy8255
    @alaincaissy8255 7 лет назад +62

    The only time that quebec answered maybe to a yes or no question

    • @Raphael91250
      @Raphael91250 Год назад +1

      Answering maybe to yes or no questions would be a quite fair description of quebec history, in my opinion.

  • @G.R.V-v4g
    @G.R.V-v4g 5 лет назад +59

    Parizeau's ethnic vote comment irrevocably damaged the separatist movement as it divided the civic nationalists (soft cell separatists) who believed in a more inclusive Quebec and the ethnic nationalists (hard core separatists) who believed only the Francophones were real Quebeckers. Had he not made those comments, the separatists could (and probably would) have held and likely won a third referendum.

    • @shadyberero6809
      @shadyberero6809 4 года назад +2

      How does one man's ill judged comment at a unique moment "irrevocably" end the right of a nation to self determination?

    • @DarrelSimon
      @DarrelSimon 4 года назад +4

      @@shadyberero6809 Does that same principle apply to the native aboriginal Indians, the native aboriginal Inuit-Eskimos, the allophones, and the anglophones too?

    • @canuckster24
      @canuckster24 3 года назад

      @@DarrelSimon Especially when it was decided later how Quebec would likely be divided in any future referendum calling it an injustice that Quebec should be divided.

    • @TruztNoI
      @TruztNoI 3 года назад

      @@canuckster24 they just can't because Quebec is slip plus how Quebec is been creative Quebec must divide plus... Do not forget the elites who control Canada is the french and not let francophones freedom of choices and rest of canada with french schools with minorities...
      Take in mind Quebec it's slip in zones and QC own unfair practices with feds know and screw us all. With mass beurocracts...

    • @ValouQc
      @ValouQc Год назад +2

      If it wasn’t from Montreal, we would win with big numbers. It’s from Montreal we should separate to begin with. Most Montreal people who speak English are not interested in the rest of the province at all, never saw sept îles or Gaspé, they take their vacations in the US or in Ontario, BC, or their countries of origins. They don’t know the province of Quebec and they don’t care, they dislike the people also and tend to ridicule the French and see them as idiots.

  • @Scot-Tube
    @Scot-Tube 8 лет назад +14

    Excellent film, thanks. Merci.

  • @EuropeanQoheleth
    @EuropeanQoheleth 8 лет назад +34

    Odd that the Federalists would sing something by Gilles Vigneault; Gens du Pays and all if I'm not mistaken.

  • @swami1
    @swami1 6 лет назад +12

    What surprised me is how public opinion was able to be swayed--in both directions--so quickly.

    • @dio2702
      @dio2702 3 года назад +4

      @swami 7774 That's very normal in Quebec.

  • @UPJayhawk27
    @UPJayhawk27 4 года назад +36

    I’m glad Mr. Parizeau lost the referendum especially because of his disgusting comments on that night. But I do feel sorry for him as a human being to contribute most of your life to a certain cause and to not see the fruit of your labor, especially because he was a smart and talented individual. My only hope is that he found some comfort in the closeness of the result. RIP

    • @jeremiepatricksammon9115
      @jeremiepatricksammon9115 2 года назад +1

      what is disgusting is that you dont realkse the no side used the immigrant to vote no.

    • @LanielPhoto
      @LanielPhoto Год назад

      To me, a man who should be hung for treason to his country, Canada!

    • @caesarwept3162
      @caesarwept3162 Год назад

      money and the ethnic vote won the election. blueprint for Obama, Biden and Justin Trudeau

  • @numbermoja1
    @numbermoja1 6 лет назад +25

    You can see that Parizeau was so obsessed with the idea of breaking Canada.

    • @shadyberero6809
      @shadyberero6809 4 года назад

      Prize for most fatuous comment on a documentary

    • @shadyberero6809
      @shadyberero6809 4 года назад +12

      What a profound observation. You can see that Trudeau, Charet and Chretien are utterly obsessed with putting Canada first before democracy, and above democracy in Quebec, and you see these right wing anti-democrats in action aiding, abetting the illegal invasion of Iraq against international law and killing young Canadians of armed forces and 100,000's of innocent civilians

  • @edwardyang839
    @edwardyang839 7 лет назад +38

    I am not a Quebecois but had I voted yes, after listening to the concession speech by Parizeau after the loss I would not want him to be the leader of Quebec. If Quebec wants to be independent, its leader first has to recognize that Quebec is linguistically, ethnically, and culturally diverse. He's caused enough separation within Canada by creating a side of Quebec and the rest of Canada. I don't want him to create the separation between anglophones and francophones, the people of French origins and people of other origins, all of which identify with the Quebecois identity equally.

    • @cedricneret7493
      @cedricneret7493 7 лет назад +8

      Sorry, I couldn't hear you over the sound of (neo)colonialism and how Canada was purposely created in the intent of assimilating French-Canadian, more particularly Québecois

    • @slimmorden5771
      @slimmorden5771 6 лет назад +2

      Many Quebecois fear if they do it again all of Canada votes and if they are voted out they are out.

    • @TruztNoI
      @TruztNoI 3 года назад

      QC need slip in zones to much crap from QC govt plus they earasing cultures replace with french... And its not possible..

  • @viking670
    @viking670 5 лет назад +5

    This documentary is a prime example of who we were as a country, national pride for both Canada and Quebec. Yet today regardless of what part of Canada you're from, nationalism now is considered a dirty word....the pain of watching our culture go into oblivion is all so heartbreaking and devastating. Who ever in their right mind 25 yrs ago would have predicted this !!

  • @kotasbyubilieau8365
    @kotasbyubilieau8365 6 лет назад +7

    What I can see from this video is that none of them win. But everyone is worth to be respected.

  • @jakubwidlarz
    @jakubwidlarz 8 лет назад +18

    The happiest man in Canada that night was Eric Lindros.

    • @aaronhumes6267
      @aaronhumes6267 3 года назад

      Explain?

    • @jakubwidlarz
      @jakubwidlarz 3 года назад +2

      @@aaronhumes6267 When the Quebec Nordiques first drafted him he refused to go there.

  • @markjob6354
    @markjob6354 6 лет назад +37

    Mr. Parizeau's ungracious, angry, sore looser, speech will be his epitaph ! In this he showed his true colours, and the simple fact there is a strong racist, xenophobic element which drives the Independentiste movement in Quebec. It's too bad, because that sentiment has *cost Quebec so much ! So high a price has been paid just to be able to measure the height of letters in a sign, to acquiesce to a minority population's feelings of anxiety, who feel threatened within the Canadian-North American context.*

    • @jeremiepatricksammon9115
      @jeremiepatricksammon9115 2 года назад +3

      le camp du non qui a fait venir comme jamais dans l histoire à cette époque autant d'immigrants sans enquete de sécurité pour voté non.
      ta propagande canadian me fait vomir sur vous

  • @RickOnTheDrums
    @RickOnTheDrums 8 лет назад +31

    At 57:57, I guess you would know about leaving traces Parizeau! Your money and the ethnic votes speech will haunt the sovergnity movement for decades.

  • @BloggerMusicMan
    @BloggerMusicMan 4 года назад +5

    This documentary made me emotional as an Anglo Canadian. For all the problems with Canada, for all the complexities governing this country, this is a place worth keeping together.
    I think of how Quebec and Canada have dealt with these problems and how similar situations (say in the Balkans, in different parts of Africa, in the Middle East, in China, etc) have been dealt with in other parts of the world -- often with intense bloodshed. French and English have lived together generally peacefully on this continent for 260 years, often for the betterment of both sides, plus many other extra newcomers.
    We have something highly valuable, and despite understandable historical and cultural feelings of separateness, I'm glad that when push came to shove, people in Quebec agreed.

    • @stevelalancette6988
      @stevelalancette6988 4 года назад +6

      Prepare yourself again... We're preparing our third referendum in Québec. Brace for impact, our next big clash in Canada is brewing right now. We wanted to be in your constitution... You really don't care about your own country, Canada.

    • @leocadieux6781
      @leocadieux6781 4 года назад +3

      BloggerMusicMan Obviously Canadians learn History differently than Québécois. So we lived peacefully for 260 years, really? Maybe for the British point of view and, later, the Canadians (by the way, Canadian was the name for the Québécois people, originally...) but you should remember that your ancestors wanted to see us assimilate or, even worse, eradicated... Every time we wanted more liberties and justice, we’ve been demeaned, humiliated, repressed. When we spoke French, they replied « Speak white ». Your army invaded us in 1970 like if we were an enemy, foreign nation. Peacefully my a**

    • @BloggerMusicMan
      @BloggerMusicMan 4 года назад +1

      @@leocadieux6781 I actually don't see this is an entirely wrong view of Canadian history, and I think I referred to "understandable feelings of historical and cultural feelings of separateness" in my original comment.
      English Canadians do learn history differently from Quebecois, I'll grant you that much for sure. There are versions of Canadian history that are very one-sided, and I actually sympathize with the Quebecois when they talk about the history of English domination of the province, particularly commercially and culturally, and I understand attempts by Francophones to pass bills like Bill 101. If were part of a small minority within a country who was also an original settler on the continent, I would be inclined to protect my culture and language with measures like this too.
      But I also see the version you've put here as radically one-sided and missing extremely important context. For one, there is no mention of aboriginals (as there wasn't in my comment, to be fair). From their perspective, seeing two sets of European colonizers fight out who has oppressed whom is amusing, considering that a various times they have felt played by both the English and the French Canadians. (And fair enough in a sense, there was no equivalent to the residential school, reserve system or Sixties Scoop foster care system to squash French-Canadian culture and language.) Many Aboriginals would say THEY were the original Canadians, and in fact the word Canada comes from an aboriginal word. And yet, in this documentary the James Bay Cree in Quebec said they would rather stay in Canada than be an independent Quebec.
      What I refer to when I say peacefully isn't that there wasn't tension, or even a real threat of violence, but that relationships between French and English Canadians are not primarily marked with outright war. The FLQ campaigns and the October Crisis, which you bring up, killed I think a total of eight people. In a certain sense, the Metis rebellions, which killed a few hundred, sparked a certain tension between French and English too. These are tragedies, but not wars on a massive scale, and hugely trivial by comparison to ethnic conflicts of the world. (For some context, the Bosnian War in the '90s alone killed more than 100,000 people.)
      To my view, this is hardly a reason to break up a country, especially one that first resulted in immense benefit for both sides: a unified railroad and a unified block against the Americans initially for starters. The fact that George Etienne-Cartier chose Canada rather than risk invasion from the United States tells you something. It's not like he liked John A. McDonald.
      We're not talking about absolute ideals here. There is no such thing in this world. Of course the French and English relationship is fraught with tension and has sometimes been delicate. But what would Quebec look like without Canada and what would Canada look like without Quebec? I think both would poorer and much less stable, which is why most Quebecois and most of their political class have given up on the idea. It's why even Rene Levesque at the very end of his life sought for Quebec's interests rather than independence, and why Parizeau split with him over it.

  • @Raphael91250
    @Raphael91250 4 года назад +14

    - Francophones voted yes at 60%, anglos and immigrants 90%+ no
    - Parizeau's comment is a disgrace
    Sorry, I must be too dumb to understand how stating a fact could be offensive ...

    • @philippeguerin9373
      @philippeguerin9373 Год назад +1

      Ces canadiens sont l'équivalent pour moi de batteurs de femme, ou d'anti avortement. Rien de différent ils ont Décidé pour nous c'est le plus grans scandale de nos vies.

    • @firthbythesea
      @firthbythesea Год назад +6

      Because he was saying if you weren't a white Francophone you weren't a Quebecois

    • @Raphael91250
      @Raphael91250 Год назад +1

      @@firthbythesea
      That's not what he said.

    • @engg84
      @engg84 Год назад +3

      He said 60% of "us" voted yes. A leader of all Quebec would say 49% of Quebec voted yes. The mask slipped. Everyone saw who he thought he was the leader of.

    • @Raphael91250
      @Raphael91250 Год назад

      @@engg84
      He was referring to francophones, not french canadian, so it's not such a big deal : immigrants who speaks French were included in this.

  • @TMBpk
    @TMBpk Год назад +2

    Very good documentary.

  • @goldeneve
    @goldeneve 2 года назад +2

    question….during the referendum of 95 and 80 while Jean Chretien and pierre trudeau and the rest of politicians in Ottawa and Canadians everywhere was stressing about this. Where was the Governor General in those years during the referendum ?

    • @electronsd
      @electronsd Год назад +1

      They had nothing to do because the govenor generals role is apolitical

    • @goldeneve
      @goldeneve Год назад

      @@electronsdah I think I got the answer thanks

  • @Afroman29
    @Afroman29 4 года назад +4

    The aftermath of the Quebec sovereignty referendum would be damaging for the Liberals as the sponsorship program which funneled Quebec to stay in Canada (Pretty much bribery) would turn into a scandal that would cause infighting in the liberals and then they would lose the election 2004 ending 13 years of their rule in Canada. The seperatists did succeed by increasing their support in 1995 compared to the 1980 result, and by coming so close to victory shook up Canada and federalists.

  • @liamcdm3689
    @liamcdm3689 3 года назад +3

    11:31 What song is this?
    11:51

  • @RedPanda450
    @RedPanda450 3 года назад +3

    Why did they do this while a French Canadian prime minister was in place? That’s what I’m most confused by.

    • @stevelalancette6988
      @stevelalancette6988 2 года назад

      It's a question of state affairs. When the UK has declared war to Russia, they knew the Tsar and the other king were cousins. It's a matter of state interests. Now in 2021, we're preparing our third referendum, even if Trudeau is prime. His father did the wrong thing to do for Québec and Canada doesn't give a f*ck. We need to resolve this issue. It doesn't matter who runs Canada.

    • @SirBeaumerdier
      @SirBeaumerdier 2 года назад

      I don't think it mattered one bit. Parizeau didn't care who was leading the country. All he wanted since the first referendum was to try again. He had to wait 15 years and waiting more than that might mean I would never see it in his lifetime.
      A better question would be why did the rest of Canada wait until that breaking point to try and change their discourse toward Quebec? Here, they look like a violent husband that brings flowers to a wife that has had enough in the hope she would beleive his lies one more time. Plot twist, it worked...

    • @UltraVega924
      @UltraVega924 Год назад +2

      They really had no choice. Think about it, since 1968, or now 55 years, the Prime Minister has not been of Québécois origin, or has otherwise not represented a Quebec riding for only 11. In other words, Prime Ministers are usually from Québec.

    • @freddysirocco9577
      @freddysirocco9577 Год назад

      "Why are black people blaming against racism while Barack Obama was president? "

    • @omarelshayal3337
      @omarelshayal3337 Год назад

      Harper, Campbell, Clarke

  • @warilban
    @warilban 3 года назад +9

    oof that concession speech was ugly.

  • @DaL33T5
    @DaL33T5 6 лет назад +6

    And I thought things down here were dramatic.

  • @LiberianMerc
    @LiberianMerc 5 лет назад +15

    The problem with the “money and ethnic votes” line is that it’s factually correct. Not politically correct, however.

    • @MrBlakman1988
      @MrBlakman1988 5 лет назад +9

      You are right,but the underlying issue here is why is that money, most Qc Anglos and ethnic minorities vote they way they do in the first place if not for the need to protect their interests. Had they been welcomed with open arms, a more inclusive and stronger separatist movement may still be relevant.

    • @milkwalkerjones633
      @milkwalkerjones633 Год назад

      @@MrBlakman1988Why must the burden of acceptance always be placed on those receiving immigrants and not those who immigrate?

    • @freddysirocco9577
      @freddysirocco9577 Год назад

      The problem in the word "ethnic" is that was used to say that quebekers consider themselves as white, in fact it was against the politics in Canada to predd the Italian and other groups to vote no.

  • @bhangraboyin
    @bhangraboyin 9 лет назад +5

    the documentary is kind of incomplete, it didnt show the ottawa side and what were the other personalities on the other side of all this.

    • @IntelligenceMedia1
      @IntelligenceMedia1 8 лет назад +1

      +Tarvinder Singh Watch Part 1, or the Radio-Canada version.

    • @bhangraboyin
      @bhangraboyin 8 лет назад +3

      ***** saw part 1 as well my friend but this doc looks a bit biased, there is no mention of other guys and what kind of maneuvering they did

    • @ronafortnitenoobie1392
      @ronafortnitenoobie1392 4 года назад +1

      You cannot imagine the greatness of the Québécois people at the helm of Canadian government and leadership. I mean the Prime minister of Canada was from Quebec, as well as the majority opposition party in Ottawa was from Quebec (Bloque Québécois under Lucien Bouchard ) even the Canadian national anthem was authored by a Québécois. I mean you could find imprints of French Québécois all over the Canada and to uproot that is like amputating a leg and a limb and two are a of Canada at the same time.

  • @javiermiranda5769
    @javiermiranda5769 4 года назад +6

    Why the big rally of federalists in Montreal was "controversial", "risky" or even illegalish? it looked like a pretty standard typical political manifestation right? Is not that they went to block voting stations or something. Is there a law saying that non-quebequers are forbidden to wear Canadian flags in Quebec? Glad if someone can explain this further to international audiences.

    • @RobinKoenig1917
      @RobinKoenig1917 3 года назад +10

      From what I understood from watching it (baring in mind that I am also not Canadian/Quebecer) was that the idea of alleged Illegality stemmed from the amount money used to charter planes/buses etc, which I thinkg would break Quebec campaign finance law, but not Federal finance law. And I think the controversy stemmed from the way that some Quebecers saw that the rally was just a bunch of outsiders who normal don't ever even think about Quebec arriving to tell the Quebecers what to do. Or at least that was how I understood it.

    • @guyduquebec344
      @guyduquebec344 3 года назад +4

      @@RobinKoenig1917 *Robin, your reasoning is spot on. This is exactly how the 62% of Francophones who voted YES in the 1995 Quebec referendum felt. Unfortunately, despite the fact that French-speaking Quebecers were in the majority when they were 81% of the population in that province, the fear propagated by the federal government and the NO camp succeeded in rallying almost all non-Francophones and the 38% of fearful Francophones who preferred to reject a geopolitical realignment in the north of North America.* 😞

  • @garyholt8315
    @garyholt8315 Год назад

    brian tobin was a federal cabinet minister and actually served the country with much wisdom. cant say that about any of them today.

  • @paddocklockersby8089
    @paddocklockersby8089 2 года назад +7

    Honestly, Canada should remain together.
    Remember when Jean-Francois Lisee percieved earlier in Part 1 that Lucien Bouchard's illness was part of a curse every time there was a surge of seperatism in Quebec?
    How about Parizeau's comments about Francophones and the Money and Ethnic vote comments? We haven't forgot about that either.
    It's more proof that trying to seperate Canada from Quebec is plain stupid.

  • @benjaminlalonde9400
    @benjaminlalonde9400 2 месяца назад +1

    Frankly its a good documentary about picturing what happened chronologically. However it lacks a little bit of the neutral journalistic posture that should be promoted in a political documentary. Stuff like the narrator saying "the collapse of Canada" "breaking Canada" "the end of Canada" "the destruction of the country" "the survival of the country" is definitely canadian nationalist vocabulary.

  • @joetaylor5803
    @joetaylor5803 4 года назад +1

    I was living in Montreal when that went down.

    • @douglaslangdon9343
      @douglaslangdon9343 3 года назад +2

      So was I. I remember the tension, and not very fondly either.

    • @stevelalancette6988
      @stevelalancette6988 2 года назад

      Yes, it was great, even if I lost this referendum. But don't worry, you'll live that again soon. We still are not in your constitution and you still don't accept us. hahhahaha

  • @sylvainb2366
    @sylvainb2366 Год назад

    Part 3 soon ! Les Québécois attendent l'ultime prochain grand rendez-vous.

  • @rogerpenroset.blaine4233
    @rogerpenroset.blaine4233 Год назад

    57:16 😂😂 that boy didn't understand what he was saying

  • @bikegypsy268
    @bikegypsy268 5 лет назад +12

    The kids at 57:20 are completely clueless

    • @charleskobold115
      @charleskobold115 4 года назад +2

      I don't think they understood French very well. That might account for some of their facial expressions. I also think they meant well but didn't understand why this the gentleman was angry. Food for thought.

    • @leocadieux6781
      @leocadieux6781 4 года назад

      Charles Kobold They didn’t meant well 😒

    • @charleskobold115
      @charleskobold115 4 года назад

      @@leocadieux6781 Desole Msr. (Mon Francais est mauvais.) I am not Canadian or Quebecois so I will never tell people there how to practice politics. I find the topic to be very interesting from a historical perspective.

  • @MrWEWE5
    @MrWEWE5 8 лет назад

    At 1:18:07, what is the name of the song, when the NO victory was announced?

    • @dopefrancis6943
      @dopefrancis6943 8 лет назад +3

      Jtaime comme un fou - Robert Charlebois

    • @Luis-xk6yq
      @Luis-xk6yq 8 лет назад

      +Pepe Ringo And the one when yes supporters know they have lost? 1:18:54 ...

    • @jaranowska
      @jaranowska 6 лет назад +2

      Luis TDB Félix Leclerc - L'Hymne au printemps

  • @spencerlincoln2428
    @spencerlincoln2428 20 дней назад

    This is the cost of not assimilating people, the mowhawks were assimilated into the culture of the majority, which is why they are happy now, my cousins of québécois decent are all now assimilated Americans, living in Vermont and New Hampshire, and all very happy now. Unfortunately this assimilation did not take place in Quebec as it should have, which is why so many people on the yes side still till today sad, and depressed, they would be much happier if they were like their American or Mohawk neighbours. Without wasting so much time and resources on this issue which does not help them in the long run and only makes life more challenging for them.

  • @bmrcoachingacademy8531
    @bmrcoachingacademy8531 5 лет назад +3

    sounds to me like this was one huge pissing contest between ego's who gives a stuff about the people little bit like the UK now and also the US hint hint tin tanks

  • @jeffreykaufmann2867
    @jeffreykaufmann2867 2 года назад +3

    If the Question was more simple: Do you agree that Quebec should become a independent Country the Yes side would have less than 45%.

    • @liamcdm3689
      @liamcdm3689 2 года назад +1

      Most likely less than that even. Hardline sovereignists are probably 35-40% of the population at most. Then there's the 15 or 20% that are soft nationalists that are more interested in the distinct society philosophy over separation.

    • @freddysirocco9577
      @freddysirocco9577 Год назад

      Because that is not the question.
      The more simple question is "do you want to gave Canada a last chance instead we become indépendant"
      That is the question

  • @cyrillayman7431
    @cyrillayman7431 6 лет назад +16

    back in the early 80s montreal was Canada's biggest city & Quebec's Economy was equal to Ontario's.The the first referendom happened & they voted to stay,but because of the vote no company wanted to stay in a province that wasn't stable & a lot of big business started to leave the province of Quebec & most went to Ontario & this is the time when Toronto started to boom & become Canada's largest city & is still today easily Canada's largest city.This is a great great Country to live in & Quebec are a bunch of spoiled brats who just don't know how good they have it.Just to show how ignorant they are,in the mid 90s when they voted again to leave they said they wanted to keep the same dollar & they still wanted the , money that they got every year from the federal Goverment,holy crap! Talk about arrogance.I have spent some time in the states & trust me this is a great Country & am extremely proud to be Canadian!

  • @navidnamini1169
    @navidnamini1169 7 лет назад +1

    1:19:47: Who's the singer?

  • @belmarfilms
    @belmarfilms 8 лет назад +5

    Middle finger alert: 0:19

  • @viking670
    @viking670 5 лет назад +3

    A time in our country where we weren't ashamed of being white and the fact that we had a history !!

  • @user-zr6pl6nb6z
    @user-zr6pl6nb6z 6 месяцев назад

    That song at 45:30 is very catchy.

  • @Walt78
    @Walt78 9 месяцев назад

    I worked for an American-Canadian company. I learned a great deal about Canada and its idiosyncracies. Particularly Québec, as since I'm Francophone I worked a lot with Québécois.
    They should take advantage of having two official languages to make a population naturally bilingual. However, they don't. The documentary is pretty good. I watch it from time to time.

  • @LightPink
    @LightPink Год назад

    Comparing the french unload's comment section to this one is interesting 😅

  • @TheDmc88
    @TheDmc88 8 лет назад

    What song is Gilles singing at 1:09?

    • @sylvainb2366
      @sylvainb2366 Год назад

      I think it's : Tu peux ravaler ta romance

  • @TrueAnimate
    @TrueAnimate 6 лет назад +3

    52:16 HAZEL!!

  • @kingpin6989
    @kingpin6989 6 лет назад +15

    Thank God we didn't have a Conservative government when this happened, Quebec would have separated for sure.

  • @lucadellalombardia9055
    @lucadellalombardia9055 5 лет назад +3

    But there were also English-speakers supporting Quebec indipendence, weren't they?

  • @azeem43
    @azeem43 4 года назад +5

    Long Live Canada

  • @numbermoja1
    @numbermoja1 6 лет назад +10

    Parizeau was so naive!!! The US wouldn’t have recognized Quebec as a country and Canada would’ve protected First Nations an their territories.

  • @aquarian7
    @aquarian7 6 лет назад +2

    This was Jacques Parizeau's mic drop. F the movement.

  • @Masterfortinero97
    @Masterfortinero97 5 лет назад +1

    42:16 he claims the premier lied, but two scenes later, when chretien says "the separatists don't want a better Canada, they want full separation" how does the "yes side" react? They celebrate, they clearly wanted a fully independent Québec.

    • @milkwalkerjones633
      @milkwalkerjones633 Год назад

      He lied by saying in other avenues that a yes vote did not mean separation. In his address he told the truth of what the yes side wanted when he obviously had no intention of respecting that wish. I don't blame him for doing that, not one bit, but that is what happened.

  • @FelizNAVIDad293
    @FelizNAVIDad293 5 лет назад

    What's the name of the singer at 1:09:00

  • @Cazador60140
    @Cazador60140 2 года назад +1

    Quebec should stay in Canada , remain strong economically , socially and watch it sink into the sea , 1867 Canada is no more

  • @LordEdmund1973
    @LordEdmund1973 5 лет назад

    If Yes won, I think Quebec would be independent today. I think the Liberals would have expelled Chretien and the rest of the French Canadian Liberals, and potentially would have formed a Borden style Unionist Anglo government with Reform, to prevent the West from trying to secede. This government may have been led by Tobin or McLellan. And I think once that happened, once the French were discarded, that would have convinced the rest of Quebec, bar the Anglos, to bolt.

    • @TruztNoI
      @TruztNoI 3 года назад

      They got the agenda to erase english coast to coast history repace bit bit with french the way over mass immigration french schools bit bit ...

  • @SteffanoDucati
    @SteffanoDucati 4 года назад +1

    i followed this closely at the time ... I KNEW separation wasnt gonna happen ..... when it came down to it the consequences for Quebec were too severe ...

  • @celloswiss
    @celloswiss 6 лет назад +14

    Un grand homme. Un grand Canadien. Un grand homme d'état. Tous mes respects à Jean Chrétien.

    • @sylvainb2366
      @sylvainb2366 Год назад +1

      Le pire traître de l'histoire.

  • @shtony2717
    @shtony2717 7 лет назад +14

    "Canada seems to be slipping away," "end of Canada," "destruction of Canada." None of these are true. Even if Quebec had voted and left Canada, Canada would still be a country, would still exist, would still be Canada. Just because one province leaves that doesn't mean the rest of Canada would have suddenly dissolved out of existence. Just because someone has a leg amputated doesn't meant he is dead, he just has to change some life styles to accommodate such a drastic change but he carries on and so would have Canada.

    • @jwcorcoran9838
      @jwcorcoran9838 6 лет назад +8

      Canada would've lost a substantial proportion of its population, cultural strength, natural resources and economic prosperity, though. These are things that could've taken an entire generation to try and make up for (as much as possible).

    • @Cnd1867
      @Cnd1867 6 лет назад +6

      That analogy of amputating a leg only works if you’re talking about taking a leg off a three-legged table. Sure it might still stand for a while, but it’s not what it used to be and it’s damn fragile now at risk of collapsing. It would’ve been the equivalent of the US Rust Belt (Illinois, Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Wisconsin, and arguably W Virginia and Kentucky) and New York seceding from the States.

    • @denelson83
      @denelson83 2 года назад +1

      >Just because someone has a leg amputated doesn't meant he is dead
      Exactly. Just ask Lucien Bouchard.

    • @ionxtreme6847
      @ionxtreme6847 Год назад

      There wouldn't have been a Canada.
      Decades later, Roy Romanow, premier of Saskachewan, said that he prepared to seperate from Canada if the Yes side won.

  • @geesus77
    @geesus77 6 лет назад +4

    Make Quebec great again.

  • @deloyou7762
    @deloyou7762 5 лет назад +6

    O Canada! Our home and native land!
    True patriot love in all thy sons command
    With glowing hearts we see thee rise
    The true North strong and free!
    From far and wide, O Canada
    We stand on guard for thee
    God keep our land glorious and free!
    O Canada, we stand on guard for thee
    O Canada, we stand on guard for thee

    • @denelson83
      @denelson83 2 года назад +2

      Ô Canada, terre de nos aïeux
      Ton front est ceint de fleurons glorieux
      Car ton bras sait porter l'épée
      Il sait porter la croix
      Ton histoire et une épopée
      Des plus brilliants exploits
      Et ta valeur, de foi trempée
      Protegera nos foyers et nos droits
      Protegera nos foyers et nos droits!

    • @stevelalancette6988
      @stevelalancette6988 2 года назад

      Boooo... You know where you can put your god, right?!

  • @juanc.suarezb1274
    @juanc.suarezb1274 3 года назад +3

    Vive le Québec livre!!!

    • @jonleibow3604
      @jonleibow3604 3 года назад +2

      "Long live Quebec delivered"?

    • @TruztNoI
      @TruztNoI 3 года назад

      @@jonleibow3604 tout ce un cartel et pris langue et tous la histoire enseigne en français au Québec es un mentir et communiste contra tous...

  • @sylvainb2366
    @sylvainb2366 Год назад

    La prochaine fois sera la bonne, aucun doute là-dessus, just watch us !

  • @felixhurteau2630
    @felixhurteau2630 6 лет назад +5

    nananana
    nananana
    hey hey hey
    GOODBYE CANADA
    43:05

    • @RickOnTheDrums
      @RickOnTheDrums 6 лет назад

      That didn't work out too well did it?

    • @MsBones1
      @MsBones1 5 лет назад

      So tell me when are you going to stop saying Vive le Quebec libre and leave?

    • @d0uel776
      @d0uel776 3 года назад

      The replies are so funny hahah thinking that in that video we can clearly see them all shit their pants and coming to Quebec to beg us to stay, they now trash quebec.

  • @Christian_Martel
    @Christian_Martel 7 месяцев назад

    58:48 Too late for remorse.

  • @cyrillayman7431
    @cyrillayman7431 6 лет назад +12

    The french have always been on the melodramatic side.

    • @338Maxime
      @338Maxime 5 лет назад +3

      fuck you

    • @leocadieux6781
      @leocadieux6781 4 года назад +7

      cyril layman The english have always been on the arrogant side.

    • @gfoot9916
      @gfoot9916 4 года назад +1

      Léo Cadieux LOL their only equal is the French in that regard. You two are perfect for each other. 😂

  • @tktru
    @tktru 3 года назад +7

    1:17:42
    How America felt when Trump was defeated

    • @angelhanson7125
      @angelhanson7125 3 года назад +2

      Hell Yes. But I now fear that we are next. I'm from Minnesota. And we never have the same mindset or outlook on life and laws to lets say, the people of Alabama. I think we starting to reach our breaking point.

    • @ef888
      @ef888 3 года назад +6

      How dare you compare our loss of a dream, of a nation to call our own, with the loss of your indignant and pathetic President.

    • @KingOfInsanity777
      @KingOfInsanity777 3 года назад +1

      @Angel Henson can any state even leave the same way like Quebec?

    • @IsaacBeImont
      @IsaacBeImont 3 года назад +1

      @@KingOfInsanity777 , constitutionally, we are like Canada in that ours does not allow for the leaving of any states. However, that certainly hasn't stopped some from trying. No offense to Canada and Quebec meant but our Separatist movement resulted in 600,000 dead in just a few years, and I would hope future separatists will take note of that.

    • @showtimebruin7821
      @showtimebruin7821 3 года назад +2

      Speak for yourself, asshole. Next time, let’s see you defeat Trump without mail in ballots and unconstitutionally changing election rules last second without the consent of state legislatures. You clearly are not very committed if you can’t get up off your ass and drive down the street to cast a ballot.

  • @Maireduvieuxhull
    @Maireduvieuxhull 3 года назад +1

    1:19:43
    coudon c tu hélène bourgeois leclerc

  • @jeromefecto8085
    @jeromefecto8085 7 лет назад

    La passe avec les Mohawks.

  • @sylvainb2366
    @sylvainb2366 9 месяцев назад

    À 53:23 la narratrice est muette concernant le nombre de personnes présentent au love-in, on comprend, c'était malaisé de le dire, on pourrait en déduire combien ça a coûté, mais ça Chrétien s'en foutait, comme il l'a déjà dit. Les forces étaient tellement inégales, le fédéral avait un budget illimité, on n'aura jamais la vérité, il a des complices partout.

  • @rajeshvedira2143
    @rajeshvedira2143 5 лет назад +2

    🇨🇦

  • @joshuanahmias9180
    @joshuanahmias9180 5 лет назад

    52:25

  • @jacobsnider7304
    @jacobsnider7304 5 месяцев назад

    What a mistake...would have been great to be free of them. Please Quebec - try again.

  • @john26razor
    @john26razor 7 лет назад

    26:10, 33:40 42:58

  • @jtnelson4579
    @jtnelson4579 Год назад

    16:29

  • @helenzhou3594
    @helenzhou3594 3 года назад

    Paul 马田Bro 法国总统195✍🏻

  • @arcanekanuck
    @arcanekanuck 5 лет назад +4

    Can you Imagine Justin Trudeau put in a position where he had to appeal to Alberta. YIKES
    Sorry But Given Trudeau's past Statements on Alberta before he became Prime Minister
    He really could' not Care Less .
    2019 2025
    We Might be in for a Repeat
    Western Style

    • @MsBones1
      @MsBones1 5 лет назад

      @IonXtreme You want some economic relief then its time to face reality and boot Quebec out. Justin Trudeau just like his father is pro French and will cater to La belle Quebec province.

  • @liamcdm3689
    @liamcdm3689 4 года назад +1

    1:12:40
    1:11:54
    1:16:42
    35:43
    45:16
    11:31
    1:17:55
    45:50
    1:26:35

  • @boblabinne
    @boblabinne 7 лет назад +8

    These american (or as you say ''Canadian'') came to Québec to say to us, in english... ''We love you!!!'', ''Together united, we're stronger'' etc... Hahahahahha. Anyway, we lost. I'm wondering: ''Do Québec is in Canada's constitution by now?!'' hahahaha, I guess we need another referendum to get some ''love''.

  • @slimmorden5771
    @slimmorden5771 6 лет назад

    Ontario had trailers rented and border guards hired. The border would be slammed shut within hours.

  • @AG-ni8jm
    @AG-ni8jm Год назад

    I love Quebec but they need to learn to speak proper French

    • @sylvainb2366
      @sylvainb2366 Год назад

      You just don't know how to appreciate our accent

  • @timw4369
    @timw4369 5 лет назад +1

    the fact that quebec held the entire country hostage and we came within percentages of being broken up as a country is
    pathetic We are stronger as a nation for it but it was far to close then it ever should have been and perhaps should be a lesson we can not overlook things and just hope things will never go in that direction again.

    • @stevelalancette6988
      @stevelalancette6988 4 года назад +3

      Don't worry... We're preparing our third referendum. We wanted to be in your constitution, but... But you obviously don't care about your country. Get ready for our next big clash and brace for impact. ahahhaha

    • @bobbyrivet46
      @bobbyrivet46 4 года назад

      @@stevelalancette6988 good luck winning the next one you have way more immigrants living in Quebec then ever before it wouldn't even be close.

    • @stevelalancette6988
      @stevelalancette6988 2 года назад

      @@bobbyrivet46 So, Bobby Rivet, I told you that we are preparing for our next referendum. What's your stand on bill 21?

  • @showtimebruin7821
    @showtimebruin7821 3 года назад +3

    The Federalists side was extremely stupid. They should have completely ignored this referendum and focused all their attention on convincing foreign capitals to not recognize recognize Quebec independence. They should have also made it very clear to the Quebec people that any declaration of independence would be deemed treasonous insurrection and all their leaders would be arrested without any right to habeas corpus. By campaigning for this referendum they gave legitimacy to the insurrectionists. Quebec has no right to independence under domestic or international law. Canada should have got the United States to threaten any foreign nation that even thinks about recognition that they will be embargoed.

    • @vaiv4svata
      @vaiv4svata 3 года назад +1

      Yes, but wouldve also got a Bloq Quebecois landslide in the next election and Chretien needed Quebec to win another majority.

    • @lucaskyte-tremblay924
      @lucaskyte-tremblay924 3 года назад

      @@vaiv4svata Not true. The bloc already won a huge amount of seats in 93, that was the peak of their support

    • @denelson83
      @denelson83 2 года назад

      Just like Kosovo?

    • @myxomycete6373
      @myxomycete6373 Год назад +4

      This kind of comment just prove that we need our independance. Vive le Québec libre!

  • @l27tester
    @l27tester 6 лет назад +4

    Free Alberta

    • @Afroman29
      @Afroman29 4 года назад +2

      Will never happen. Conservative Wexit supporters need to accept that the CPC lost the election and that Alberta inflicted economic damage on themselves. They have no one else to blame for their problems.