Vintage Ninja-Thopters | Channel LSV
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- Опубликовано: 10 фев 2025
- LSV attacks Vintage with a combination of Ninjas and Thopters, a deadly duo that's rarely seen (both in Vintage and at all).
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"And now I have Brazen Borrower to bounce their next blocker" I love when games of Vintage have lines that sound like limited
it is basically limited XD
"im just going to kill them with changeling outcast"
i present to you vintage: the format of insane and broken combos and spells
51:08 "One Changey-boi" - Luis Scott-Vargas 2020
"I definitely beefed it by not playing ornithopter last turn." - LSV playing Vintage, 2020
"Missing on lands isn't that bad when you have a Changeling Outcast" - LSV, 2020
Man, 42:10 is such a great example of you reading a line I never would have seen, where you play around what your opp will do in response to you based on your read on their headspace.
Yes It's an insane read that I would be proud of for the rest of the year if I pulled off.
Thanks to LSV for the shoutout and play-through with ninjas! If you are interested in watching more Vintage Ninja action you can watch the third place challenge run! ruclips.net/p/PLuKCwwybIAufjKUOFK4FAEEID38q-D-2z
i like how some random commander cards show up in a solid vintage deck
i really dont think yuriko is a "random commander card"
@@ich3730 that might be true, i have a deck with her too, and i know she is close to cedh playable, but she was clearly designed just for commander
Decks like these are why I love Vintage. The power level is such that so many strategies can be competitive and you get surprises like this.
This looks like a rogue Legacy deck splashing Vintage cards. I love it, though!
Hey, don't talk like this about my legacy deck
Finally we found a good time walk deck
This is such a wild brew. I'm in love with it.
i cant tell if the opponent was in the tank or just googling at 4:15
Definitely googling
100% googling
Of note, at 28:11, Yuriko's triggered ability gets around Narset's static ability because Yuriko does not "draw a card" it reads "Whenever a Ninja you control deals combat damage to a player, reveal the top card of your library and put that card into your hand. Each opponent loses life equal to that card's converted mana cost." Which is not technically drawing a card. Cool!
I would love to see a version of this deck play vamp tutor and use it with yuroki trigger on the stack for emerakul or something
ya or brainstorm.. but i guess hitting a force of will isn't terrible
Lavinia stops Ornithopter?!?! Totally normal thing to matter in a game of Vintage… 😂
I know we’re supposed to identify with and root for lsv because his ninjas deck is sweet af but god damn I love watching Death and taxes rip on people.
“It must be nice, it must be nice, to have yuriko on your side.”
It must be nice, it must be nice, to have yuriko on your side.
Every spell has a equal counter spell for action
Thanks to strix their defense is split to set inaction
They try not to scoop out of stress of your forces dividing them into factions
We bolt each other in the face no need to cast retract then
I get no satisfaction seeing no blockers where’s the stack Wrenn?
The bird swings though and it goes back then
Yuriko triggers looks like I’m taking that to ten.
It must be nice, it must be nice, to have yuriko on your side.
22:18
That line in match 3 game 2 was beautiful.
Changeling Outcast lowkey the best card in the deck 👀
Did your last opponent think that Bolas’ Citadel’s cast stuff off the top ability was stopped by Null Rod maybe?
In the immortal words of Vanilla Ice, "Go ninja go ninja go! Go ninja go ninja go! GO! GO! GO! GO!"
This deck reminds me of an awesome pauper deck, it has the ingenuity and versatility plus all the powerful vintage cards.
Pauper is almost litteraly just vintage.
Vintage just keeps delivering cool decks.
02:37 - Match 1
15:16 - Match 2
26:18 - Match 3
31:53 - Match 4
43:09 - Match 5
Me (sees video title): I dont got time for this nonsense...
Also me (gets flu) aight you hooked me
This better be good!
Feel better soon!
See the legacy version in action a few months ago and it did work. Vintage is a gift. A really stupidly expensive gift.
I feel like the video quality is poor even with it set to 1080p.
It doesn't even give an option for 1080 for me. But yeah at 720 it's hard to read cards on my phone.
WHAT'S THE DEAL, IT'S LIKE I'M WATCHING A BOOTLEG FILM
Volume could be higher
37:15 nearly gave me a heart attack! I love playing Lavinia in Standard because so many opponents on Fires of Invention decks forget about her, but that's only in very casual matches. Otherwise it feels really bad to see people run free spells into her.
This is hilarious. I have a Yuriko commander deck that is super fun, and I’ve actually thought about how I would build it if it were legal in constructed formats (that I play) ... never even occurred to me that it would be viable in vintage of all things!
11:10 Missed a chance for a style kill. Ninjitsu the legend into play, let the trigger go on the stack, Mystical Tutor to put Force on top, burn for 5 with the Tiger Shadow trigger.
I feel like the deck wants a dig through time for that reason. Probably not even that good, but you know, style points.
or just put dig or cruise on top
@@ADAMSTRAINCHANNEL It has Dig and Cruise
@@zym6687 my bad! Guess I missed that
Thalia in play could not ninjutsu and cast mystical, needed one more mana.
It must be nice tohave Yuriko on your side indeed! Didn't know you were a Hamilton fan
GarciLP talk less! Storm more! Don’t tell them if it’s jank or something more!
Cool video LSV
Wooo! Shout out to Iamactuallylvl1. He’s such a fun vintage player!
Justin is great!
You know that you gotta find room in this deck for a Trinket Mage.
Quick question lsv, on that first hand I would have sent the force of will to the bottom instead of the land. Would that have been a big mistake? Any thoughts? Pros Cons?
Definitely missed lethal at 11:15, no blockers declared so ninjutsu yoriko and mystical tutor treasure cruise in response to her trigger
TheRealBurna I thought so too, but then I remembered Thalia made the mystical tutor 2 mana
Awesome content? Yes indeed.
Is Grafdigger's Cage not pretty decent against Bolas' Citadel?
It is. but its very narrow unless OP is on DPS. Versus PO its hard to justify
34:47 Why not hard cast Yuriko precombat here?
Teenage Mutant Ninja-Thopters.
Round 1 Game 1, couldn't you have taken your drawstep to see if you'd draw a second Yuriko (assuming they took the first one with TKS?) They're not attacking for lethal, and you could swing with the team, ninjitsu Ornithopter to deal 3 damage, then have 2 triggers from Yuriko to try and deal the last 5.
2:38 Match One
So weird seeing a commander card in a constructed format.
Commander is also constructed I'd say. What you mean is 1 vs 1.
But yeah, the legality of Planechase/Conspiracy/Commander cards in vintage is kind of questionable because they weren't made with 1v1 in mind. I think eternal formats should be "everything that was in standard at one point" instead of "everything that can reasonably be resolved by MTGO".
Can you do a legacy version of this? X-D I got my playset Judge Foil Yurikos but haven't had any luck putting together a god deck so far.
Yuriko is sweeeeet
Sees title
Well well im listening...
I thought Yuriko was a triggered ability not activated. Please correct me if i’m wrong.
The part where you flip a card off the top is triggered, but ninjutsu is activated.
Jaymanhaldy42 Ninjutsu is an activated ability, but the dealing damage is a triggered ability
The combat damage part is a trigger, but ninjutsu is activated.
He meant ninjutsu
Thanks a bunch folks! Knowledge is power!🤓
Does Finkel know about this deck?
Deck seems to nearly be there, and the high result may well have been the surprise factor more than the total strength. Be it that LSV obviously screwed up some plays in his enthusiasm and likely the little time he got to practice with the deck ... we clearly forgive him ^^ ... now i know jack shit about Vintage, so maybe the following is totally crazy, but personally i would:
- Add a mana source, this deck seems to want to run on 2 mana, but clearly you do NEED those 2 and 3 would likely be even better ~ i would cut a retrofitter for that
- Add a demonic tutor, cut mystical tutor for that. (i just don't like the reveal and having to draw) ~ two tutors is probably enough (?)
- Add a Misdirection, cut Gush (two islands back is horrible for such a low mana deck, and you 'never' want to pay 5) ~ the frail ninja's need more protection from burn, also 5 mana for the trigger!
- Add a Misdirection, cut a Daze; for another high mana trigger target, and more protection.
- With 8 fetches, do you need the 9th shuffle effect of ponder? (might be) otherwise i would go for brainstorm instead to 'hide' important cards if needed.
- Add a thoughtseize, cut vampiric tutor (or make room for Thoughtseize in the side, and run another Demonic instead of Vampiric if 2 tutors isn't enough) ~ it's broken and can help hard matches
- May want more brainstorms tbh. so perhaps the vamp should make room for that ? But i just really like the idea of Brazen + Counter OR Brazen + Thoughtseize ... but i am still somewhat in doubt if a 3rd demonic tutor isn't just better for the deck and format, seeing it's basically a 'combo' deck that really needs it's pieces! Maybe the Retrofitter is just to cute, or more of a sideboard option, and it could make room...
SO yeah, interesting deck, always cool to try and wrap one's head around what it's trying to do, what it wants to do, and how to best select the cards to further the plan ... part of me also wants to put a copy of Fallen Ninja in there, mainly to offer another type of threat once the deck reaches 4 mana, but it's unlikely there is room for that, and 4 mana is just so much.
The deck seems fine mana wise i think, thanks to Moxen / Cantrips and gush can help you get 3 mana while you only have 2 lands in play.
Cutting Mystical and Vamp tutor also seems odd to me, since they are powerful on their own and synergize well with Yurikos Triggered Ability.
oh also Demonic Tutor and Brainstorm are restricted to 1 copy.
@@TheOmegaSkater Ah, well, like i said, i basically know jack shit about vintage, so I had no clue on the restrictions. Which then makes the other tutors much more understandable...
On the mana, to me still the hardest part of magic, i hope i described my doubts enough in my comments. I basically only saw the matches played by Louis, and due to his limited plays he may have kept some dodgy hands. Still though i think i counted 19 sources, which is close to a mono red agro deck with 18, that plays mostly 1-drops. This deck, by the looks of it, would probably prefer to 'run' at 3 mana, 2 for the ninja action and 1 mana to do something else. Paired with the matches i saw, i'd reckon one more source surely wouldn't hurt the deck.
And again, those restrictions do change a lot ! Tnx for sharing that info though, makes understanding the way the deck is build a lot better :)
Why do you play steel sabotage over ceremonious rejection?
Steel sabotage can bounce a blightsteel colussus or bolas citadel that has been tinkered into play
I clicked the link thinking this was Legacy lol
is it just me or lsv videos recording quality are pretty bad recently?
LSV is working on it - they will be better in the future!
Look to build this on MTGO, find out that yuriko is 55$ online :(
Those commander nerds ruin everything
Finally! LSV punished for playing loose.
you fudged something with the resolution or video quality on this one
RUclips videos take time to process, takes a bit to clear up.
With a video like this that takes maybe an hour. It just seems like the video quality isn't good sadly.
Yeah, LSV is working on fixing it (he's using a new recording process and doesn't have all the kinks worked out).
@@ChannelFireball cool thanks for the reply :)
Was that only 4 matches?
I wish I was rich enough to play vintage.
Play Dredge again pls!
29:55
why the hell would someone play glowrider if you have better cards?
Maybe they need more of the Thalia effects
@@Zspear234 yes, but you have Vryn wingmare which is strictly better
@@Janshevik Vryn Wingmare isn't a Human, unlike Glowrider. As you want Cavern of Souls on Human for the Thalia's already, Glowrider is better than Vryn Wingmare in that deck.
Glowrider is strictly cooler and in vintage style points matter
SO. MANY. PIXELS!!!!!!
Am I the only one or does this video look really bad even though it's 1080p?
Super sloppy play here lsv. Aside from the mistakes you noticed yourself:
34:52 : why not cast the Yuriko precombat instead of ninjitsuing. Gives an extra trigger.
Why is the video quality shit?