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I don’t need a great lawyer, but I still enjoy your videos! I just wish there would be one on British law.
Hey there is another way to be on the other side that is of course if you get sued
Love the videos and as a Marylander it is a surprise to see you are in my backyard. Nice!
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Heard a rumor that Mathematicians are disqualified from being a Juror because their standard of proof is held to a higher and stricter means.
Any truth is to this?
"I was really hoping to be on the other side of the process for trial law" - have you considered a life of crime? That would get you on the other side
Hey, he's a lawyer. Thinner barrier than you'd think /s
IllegalEagle
Man gave up the law to be the Boss.They call him Mr. Stone.
@@lyndsaybrown8471 That'd make a great April Fool's post with him posing as one of those morons that streams their crime.
There's plenty of unlicensed but qualified jailhouse lawyers. I hear Bubba Banks is a solid referral, but he requires prepayment in booty. 😂
Imagine a lawyer as a juror, frantically scribbling notes and identifying all the mistakes that the prosecution/defense teams made.
Frankly, I kinda suspect he'd be struck for being a lawyer. From what I've heard, they don't tend to like people too in-the-know before the trial, they want blank slates who won't be biased by prior knowledge.
@@maddie9602Yeah, pretty sure someone is going to object. Even if you're ok with a lawyer being on the jury you definitely don't want one with a career on RUclips.
@@nathanjasper512 Imagine him staying up at the end and saying:
,,And now let’s give this one a grade for legal realism”
That's jury tampering! Because that juror is literally tampering with, okay, fine, "critiquing", if that's what you wanna call it, my case!
I'm imagining him holding up score cards like gymnastics judges
"objection your honor"
"juror number five please for god sake sit down"
Too many tv shows eh 😂
The real reason lawyers don't want other lawyers on their jury
"Objection your honor, the autopsy report is outdated."
@@Dr.Yakub22what do you mean, it's outdated, Mr Edgeworth?
@@DaemonwarriorJulius "Gumfuck didn't tell you?"
"Well, I'm a lawyer. And I have a RUclips channel."
"NEXT!"
😂
Oh, a youtube channel you say? Are you that Law by Mike guy? Or is it the lockpicking lawyer? You could probably go to prison if you've been stealing evidence you know!
For real, they’d never let a lawyer on
They'd probably know who is was anyway and object as soon as he sat on the stand. He said he used to work there for years.
@@DeathnoteBBThe one time I served I saw just that. They asked a prospective juror his profession, he said "defense lawyer" they said, "you may go."
Somehow I picture him standing in line with the other jurors, quietly whispering "Indochino" to all the commonly dressed people.
While he's also handing out suits and ties to everyone
@@Number1IrishladNot a tie tho, as he wants to show respect to the court and also, they're not getting payed to be there
@@lostonearth7856 valid point, unless he wants to make _himself_ look better by not trying too hard 🧐
The mental disability of elitism is everywhere
What's Indochino?
Judge: "What are you wearing"
Juror: "A suit and tie?"
Judge: "Get that tie out of my sight you sicko"
"I'm not wearing a tie at all" -Lionel Hutz
Seriously question though, my whole life I thought ties were considered respectful formal wear; why would this be opposite for courts?
@@zarinaromanets7290I was confused at first too, but I think he meant that he wasn’t going all in on the formal wear because he wasn’t being paid for his time
Yeah, I think the point is wearing a suit to show respect, but not wearing a tie because he thinks it's overkill for jury service, and he's more comfortable without it.
@zarinaromanets7290 The tie has nothing to do with respect or disrespect.
It's either:
A) he doesn't want to be mostaken for an active attorney on the case
B) he doesn't like wearing ties and he's not expected to wear one on this occasion, so he won't
C) he doesn't want to appear "overdressed". Many people are still very anal about how someone dresses on these formal occasions and will dislike you if you dress to informal OR TOO FORMALLY for your role in this convention.
I'm an attorney and actually served on a jury once AFTER receiving my law degree. It was a homicide case, too, so the facts were QUITE interesting. However, exactly what most lawyers fear will happen if there's a lawyer on the jury happened . . . everyone else on the jury just looked to me and agreed with whatever I said.
We acquitted.
what if you didn't mention to others that you weren't a lawyer?
@@Coolsomeone234 It was mentioned during voir dire (pretty much always is), so it's unlikely they wouldn't know. But even then, I almost certainly would have been the most persuasive person in the room with regard to any legal issue. Pretty sure I would've been able to convince them all to acquit regardless.
@@ajm5007 okay thanks
Those attorneys really screwed up letting you on. The results you saw are so predictable.
When I practiced, I had one month of grand jury in NYC. but otherwise, I was always immediately kicked out and scheduled my day around the fact I knew I'd be kicked out.
Can't believe they let you on.
So you're the reason OJ is free
Over the years, I've received a number of letters telling me I have jury duty. But, each time, the case is settled out of court or the suspect pleads before I even have to show up anywhere.
It just comes and goes like that.
My first time I had to drive 40 minutes back to courthouse for them to start picking people and the person pleaded before that even started. At least the 10 dollars I got covered gas
some people just want to get their 12 Angry Men moment lol
The second time I was called for jury duty, the summons said it was expected to be a 7 week trial with jury selection on the monday.
The friday before I was informed that jury selection was now on the thursday and it was now only a 2 week trial.
I get to jury selection. We watch the video explaining the process and what we would be expected to do. Told selection would begin in a few minutes.
Twenty minutes later we were told that the accused had plead guilty at the last minute.
The suspect pleaded guilty before Jury Duty really started.
Last time I got called up the defendant pleaded guilty as part of a deal they hammered out right before trial was about to start
I was a juror once in a drunk driving case. Interesting experience. Everyone on the jury felt a strong sense of duty to get it right and we were all very careful and respectful with the process. Only one of us had been a juror before and we made that person the foreperson because of it. A friend of mine was the foreperson juror on a murder trial where they found the defendant guilty. She said it was a fascinating experience and the jurors really bonded, but when it was all over and she got home, it all hit her and she cried for a while. I imagine some jurors have to deal with some tough evidence, but I think most people come away with a renewed faith in the process.
I did duty for armed robbery and attempted murder. Guilty verdict. When it was finished I went to my part time job, like it was right after jury duty finished, and while I was clocking in I just started crying. I wasn't sad or guilty feeling, it was just a lot, a bit overwhelming. My boss was a retired cop, so he understood.
I hope you don't mind the comment on a 6-month-old post, but I was a juror a few years ago and had a similar experience to your friend. It was absolutely fascinating and an incredible experience (one that I'm very glad to have had as I am now considering a career in law because of it) but the case dealt with some very heavy topics (CSA being just one) and hearing from the witnesses directly was incredibly jarring. It was especially difficult since we weren't allowed to speak about the case outside of the courtroom until the case was over, and we didn't even get the chance to speak about it *inside* the courtroom, so for me it was just on my mind for the entire week that the case lasted. I'm very proud to say that the defendent was found guilty on all 13(!) charges - I was the jury's foreperson and got to read out the verdicts myself. I didn't cry afterwards, but I did feel incredibly heavy for a while. My mum and my sister were super supportive both during and after the case and I can't thank them enough.
@@fartsinthewindit is a lot to deal with. you have to deal with months (sometimes years) of evidence in such a short span of time in pretty harsh cases with huge implications. its a though job farts.... in the wind? wait a minute
I got called for jury duty, was really looking forward to serving. I got there and I knew the defense attorney. My dog and her dogs used to play together and that was enough to get me disqualified 😂.
Doggone it!
@@genghisgalahad8465Ba-dump tsss
That's why you keep that shit to yourself.
@jackadams3878 I mean I got asked and she was nodding at the same time I answered so I don't think I could have "gotten away with it".
@@jackadams3878 Lol, no. There is a reason she was disqualified for the (albeit mild) connection. Jury Duty is not a joke, people's lives could be at stake.
I served as a juror for a medical malpractice lawsuit in which the doctor used out dated equipment and set a hip incorrectly. We awarded the woman like 1.2 mill. It was absolutely fascinating. I felt as though I had influence during deliberation, I am proud of our collective decision, and proud of contributing to a civic duty.
Hell yeah, tell people you were the reason that woman got justice
Hopefully that woman is grateful for the jury that served in that trial!
@@jfrfilms6697 might have to do that. I feel like I did push the deliberation into awarding her more. They were settling quickly on a much much lower amount.
@@squillz8310 she absolutely was. Broke into tears immediately and literally mouthed "thank you" repeatedly towards the jurors box
On the flip side the defendant's wife was beside herself and was trying to ask the jurors "why?!" as we filed out of the courtroom.
@@wesanderson4773getting big narcissist vibes not gonna lie
The first time I was called to Jury duty, i was 19. I was called in, and they asked questions. Problem, I was dating the victim, friends with the defendant's cousin & going to boot camp in a month. They told me to "just go home"
I was called recently as a witness in a case for an accident where I was rear ended in a work vehicle. Craziest thing was the defendant didnt show despite having requested the trial option, so a conviction was entered. Best work day ever.
Similar thing happened to me years ago with a rental deposit. Ended the lease, cleaned the house and left. Didn't get the deposit back, no reason given. It got escalated until it went before a judge at which point the landlord didn't even bother to show so he gave the judgement in our favor. Assuming that the landlord was just hoping we wouldn't complain so he could keep the money
@@tomoroboros That's so silly. Every landlord I've had could easily come up with a bogus reason to keep the deposit.
Hold up, how are you a witness when you were part of the accidente?
@@thewetchef3749 I’m guessing passenger maybe?
@@thewetchef3749 I was the driver of the vehicle she rear ended. I would be testifying to what I was doing and how I was driving the speed limit, staying in the lane, in extremely light traffic, on a bright sunny spring day, so it eliminates anything I did as a possible defense to the careless driving charge. And there are cameras all over the work vehicles.
Devin wouldn't make it past selection.
Prosecutor: What do you do for a living?
Devin: I'm a lawyer.
Prosecutor & Defense: Dismissed!
My dad, while he was still an ADA, got called into jury duty. He explained that he too is a lawyer, his wife is a paralegal, and he's friends with plenty of detectives. The lawyer on the case kept him on but the next day my dad was dismissed lol
In DC, where something like half the population has a law degree, even if they’re not practicing attorneys, the parties often don’t have an alternative if they want to be able to form a jury. But yes, elsewhere in the country it is a truism that it is nearly impossible to get on a jury as an attorney.
@@PastaBeato In NZ, a Crown Prosecutor is automatically ineligible to serve on a jury, along with anyone who holds a current practising certificate as a barrister or solicitor. Any employee of the Ministry of Justice is also barred, along with the Department of Corrections and also the NZ Police, and probably anyone else remotely connected to justice and law enforcement. They will literally take you off the jury list, so you won't even get called up except occasionaly when they might have forgotten to take you off for some reason.
It is true they seldom choose lawyers to serve.
I was chosen as an alternate juror 30 years ago. I have a law degree but do not practice. Had to sit through the entire trial and sit in on the deliberations in case someone got sick or had to leave for another emergency. I was impressed with the jurors. I felt they did a good job of reviewing the evidence, and they made the correct decision.
“YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!”
“You’re excused mr. Stone!”
😂😂😂
The only time I was ever summoned for jury service, I was put in the jury pool for two weeks and they let me do a call-in instead of going to the court house. I got two weeks WFH, wore my PJs until noon, and was never placed on an actual jury. Truly an honor to serve.
The first time I got called in for jury duty I had just moved states... needless to say I was unable to make it and they understood lmao
@@sevirakalau2171 That's happened to me twice now. I seem to only get called for jury duty in districts I don't live in anymore.
In Australia, you're not ALLOWED to be on a jury if you're a lawyer (or cop or some other jobs). You're expected to be able to sway the jurors to your viewpoint which effectively denies the defendant a fair trial.
The same in the UK
Same in canada, also goes for members of media or if you are apart of a school newspaper, just had to recently fill out my form for jurry eligibility but there is a chance that i wont get called at all, also eventually once i finish my schooling if i am in a courthouse it will usually be as an expert witness
@@evanrieux668 Yeah, a number of groups just cannot be jurors, full stop. A number of others, the lawyers will do their best to make sure you're never on there. Me, I think they wouldn't mind. I've been called up twice but not needed either time. Only got into a courtroom once.
Here in the US the prosecutor and defense get to question and veto jury members to see if they're going to be biased. Most of the time neither side will want to have a lawyer on the bench
@@JoshBostrom Here, they don't get to question you I think. I don't recall them doing so, at least, they just get a short time to look at you and see if they want to exclude you as you walk from your seat to the jury box. Though I won't say that they don't have a chance later to object but I don't know they *do* have that option.
as they are selecting the jury, both lawyers and the judge recognize him and all look at each other.
Got called for Jury Duty once, slept through the alarm, and got an email that the presence of the jury was no longer necessary. Dunno what that was about but I’m right thankful for it lol
I got called for jury once. I had never been on jury duty before and didn't realize to expect an email. So I get there and they're confused why I'm there. When I explained why, they said it had been called off and they had sent an email. I had to take the bus of shame back home. lol
It's pretty common. A lot of trials are settled out of court, negating the need for a jury.
@@Nightriser271828 it’s true
@@Nightriser271828 that's not what affects jury duty being cancelled
Many years ago I got a jury duty notice and completely forgot about it until a week or two after the specified date. I waited for months for a dreaded fine letter to arrive but I never heard anything more about it. I wasn't living in the USA but I guess things worked similarly and I only needed to identify myself if actually required, and I wasn't required on the day. Lucky!
The local government in my area at the time messed up accidentally sent me a letter notifying me that I would be on jury duty when I was 12. Needless to say, they quickly realized their mistake and sent me another letter the next day apologizing and saying I wouldn’t be on any jury anytime soon 😂
The local government in my area sent me a summons for jury duty within a month or two of when I turned 18. Ended up being dismissed, though, as I was starting college and the jury duty would have conflicted with my classes. Then they summoned me again a year or two later with the same result.
Could you imagine being one of the jurors for a murder trial at age 12? It would have been absolutely hilarious 😂
@@redpandamurphy theres actually a childrens book about just that! its called "trial by journal" and its written from the perspective of a 12 year old girl who has to serve for a murder trial :)
@@auddiadem there's a piece of media for anything man
I LOVE that you actually WANTED to do jury duty. If I ever get brought up on criminal charges, I really don’t want my jury to be comprised of 12 people who wanted to get out of it but weren’t smart enough to figure out how to get excused.
I suspect a lawyer would be dismissed anyway, for being too knowledgeable.
I don’t remember if it was 2017 or 2018 or even 2019, but in Chicago they summoned for jury duty one Barack Obama. He went. They said thanks, no thanks. So yeah lawyers rarely get to serve on juries. I doubt lawyers on either side would have been comfortable with an expert on constitutional law (Obama was a law school professor at one point) in the jury box.
@@Rosarium2007 Former presidents are especially far more opposed. They can easily persuade their fellow jurors in determining decisions.
I remember reading of an incident where a SCOTUS judge was summoned for jury duty . However for normal lawyers the question is if they would be the most appropriate "peers" in a case against a lawyer, just like ordinary US Senators form the jury when impeaching a president .
...and knowing members of the defense and prosecution teams, the judge, etc, and having taken part in a trial in some capacity, etc, etc....
My dad (a lawyer) got called once. When he was brought into the room, he greeted the prosecutor by first name. He was dismissed.
When my grandmother was called for jury duty, they instantly dismissed her. She is a lawyer herself, friends with both the prosecuting and defense lawyers, and was playing golf later that month with the judge.
I served on a jury last year, and it was so interesting to see the process and be inside a courtroom! I was the first alternate juror but ended up replacing one of the actual jurors, so I got to deliberate. It was about 4 weeks and the case was pretty rough, but it was fascinating.
I was on a jury for a month years back and it's kind of surreal. You sit in court and in the jury room with people that only really have one thing in common and that's the thing you're not allowed to talk about. Then deliberations happen and most folks are completely on different pages about much of what's going on.
My uncle was a barrister in the UK and got called for jury service just before he retired. He was properly open but decided not to tell the jurors about his day job in case they gave more weight to his opinions than the facts and evidence presented in the case. He almost got away with being the mystery man until he had to ask the judge to postpone the next hearing so he could represent in another trial!
😅 so... Did he get his wish then?
@@PrograError He did!
Thank you for acknowledging that one should only wear a tie if they're being paid.
Wait… so does this mean that the church I attend owes me money?
As an engineering intern in the 90s, I was mock threatened with having my tie cutoff if I wore it again past the first day of work. 😆👨🏽💼
At a later work, I came across some black & white photos from decades ago showing a couple engineers wearing white shirt & ties, smoking while looking at blueprints. 🚬👨🏻💼👨🏼💼🗒️
i mean, yeah, their whole deal is stealing money from the less aware.@@HoushouRattengod
Damn, I got grifted at all those weddings and funerals.
@@HoushouRattengodeternal salvation might be a form of payment
I got a Federal Jury Questionnaire about 6 months ago and I wrote,
Yes, I will drive 2 hours each way to go serve. I’m like you, so excited to be considered for a Fed Jury.
I got jury duty. I actually was selected for a case!!! I was so excited… and then the judge came into the room and said it was settled at the last minute.
They called me on the phone the Friday before the trial was supposed to start. They settled… goodbye.
Thats what happened to my dad
I was on a jury 1 of the 6 times I've been summonsed. It is pretty cool, you're just about the most important person in the building. It was kind of crazy that we were throwing around hundreds of thousands of dollars, although I think most of the other jurors would have been happier just burning the money as by that point we pretty much hated everybody involved.
The one time I got called for jury duty and was actually on a trial, there was a lawyer that was also on the jury. When we got to deliberations, she said, "OK I'm an actual lawyer so if you want to make this easy, just vote for me as jury foreperson and I'll take you through the whole thing," and she did a great job instructing us on what we could talk about, what we weren't supposed to bring up, what to ask the judge if we needed more info, etc
10/10 she made a tough process really easy
That's a little dodgy. You really should have been taking your legal advice from the judge, not a juror that says they are a lawyer. It would probably have been declared a mistrial if anyone found out she had been advising the jury.
@@thomasdalton1508 It’s not at all dodgy. She explained what the terms were, what the instructions meant, etc. There’s no difference between her and someone else claiming that they knew what they were talking about. Only she actually knew what she was talking about.
@@JasonBoyce If you don't understand something like that, you need to ask the judge. The judge will then discuss it with the parties and give you an answer. You can't have a jury being swayed by a juror giving their own interpretation of the instructions like that. The difference between an attorney doing it and anyone else doing it is that you all listened to the attorney and assumed she was right. You wouldn't have done that with anyone else - you might have listened, but you would then have made your own decision.
@@thomasdalton1508 Do you understand how juries work? We all sit down and figure out what everything is supposed to mean. You can do that with anyone, lawyer or not. We went with the person who said they knew the process. We did go to the judge for other things. You are assuming a LOT here. Jurors pushed back on things they didn’t like. We voted. Our foreperson made this an easy, streamlined process. She made a process of 12 arguing adults work very easily.
@@JasonBoyce I understand exactly what you are saying and it is completely inappropriate. It was very unprofessional of her to do that and would likely have led to a mistrial if it had been found out. You are welcome to feel that it should be acceptable, but the rules are the rules whether you agree with them or not.
I've been called several times. The last time March 2023 we were a pool of about 100 ppl and they needed to seat 3 juries, 1 - 12 person & 2 - 6 person juries.
We watched a riveting movie about jury service, heard a wonderful speech from the judge and then 3 hours later we were all dismissed because all cases were continued.
Another time, when they held the jurors in the musty basement of the courthouse, they held us 6.5 hours while the defendant hammered out a plea deal.
Serving on a jury was one of the most uplifting experiences of my life. It was a murder trial and I was very proud of my fellow jurists. All were determined to be professional and put in the effort to get it right, despite the fact that most had absolutely no desire to be there.
Yeh as much as you don't want to be there the defendant could be innocent and definitely doesn't want to spend the rest of their life in prison. You owe it to the potentially innocent person to give them a fair hearing and in the event they did it you have the duty to society to help put them away.
Settle down Toby, no one wants to hear your Scranton Strangler story again.
And what was the verdict?
My father was an attorney. During his career, he tried cases in front of the bench and, later, behind it as a judge with the Maryland Office of Administrative Hearings. He always wanted to be on a jury to see it from the other side. While he was called a few times, he was always first out the door during selection as soon as his profession came up.
I was quickly excused when they discovered that my son in law is an attorney. I had made it through 2 rounds 🤷🏻♀️
I once got a threatening letter for not showing up for jury duty - in a county I have never lived in. What a mess! They determined eligibility based on zip codes. The zip code where I live is partly in one county and partly in another. I called and explained the situation. I was told not to worry about it. One day a deputy came knocking on my door. He was actually embarrassed but said legally he had to verify where I live. He verified my identity and address and left.
The government takes jury duty VERY seriously.
I've been call four times and only one time went to a trial that lasted two days. It was a property dispute; the defendant was a lawyer, who represented himself! He had been found guilty previously. It was our task to hear the evidence and decide the settlement. The guy affirmed the old saying about people who represent themselves being idiots.
One thing I've learned over the years is that the prosecution doesn't care for an educated juror. Presumption of innocence, the 6th amendment, things like that. While not a lawyer, I've gone toe-to-toe with prosecutors on the legal rights of the accused, and I've never been picked. This can't be coincidence.
Sometimes, the defense doesn't like educated jurors. A lot depends on the case.
They'll get rid of anyone who might refute what their expert witnesses will claim. So they can get away with lying.
$1000 this never happened, Alex.
Yeah, I would be shocked if he *ever* got selected for a jury. It'd be a trial lawyer's worst nightmare - a juror capable of correctly assessing their work.
I'm an engineer, I've been summoned twice for jury duty and have been dismissed both times
I was called for my first jury duty a couple of months ago, I was one seat away from being picked for a murder trial 😅
Between the ages of 18 and 25, I got called for jury duty 3 times. I had moved a lot and had residency in 4 different states throughout that time. Each summons was shortly after I'd moved to a new state lol my grandma was not impressed. She's never been called and always wanted to.
I'm 36 and I've lived in the same state my whole life and I've never gotten called for jury duty. What are the chances?
@@atomic_waitI’ve only been called once in my 27 years and I got out of it because the summons was at my previous residence 11 hours away. It’s not hard to get out of, and they have way too many people to choose from, so it’s possible you’ll never get called.
I've lost count how many times my father and I have been called for jury duty...
If your grandma would like to serve jury duty, she could volunteer, which is doable by filling out a voluntary jury duty form and can be filed with the county clerk.
I got called for Jury duty in my home state after having moved to two different states. I don't know why their records hadn't been updated at the local level.
I have served twice.
The first time, I asked for a delay bc this was during the Iraq War, and the date they called me to attend was in the middle of my brother’s furlough from his tour of duty. I’m grateful they acclimated my request. I was selected as a juror when I did attended the second date they gave me. It was for a frivolous civil trial over a tiny strip of buffer land the size of 50’ x 1500’. The upside is I learned a lot about how the judicial system works. I thought the two sides were being petty and discovered at deliberations that my fellow jurors felt the same. We ruled on favor of the plaintiff for $1.00 to teach them a lesson. Bonus upside is I leaned how to knit from another juror, which is still something I do to this day!
The second time, I sat in the selection room almost all day. Half an hour before the courts closed, the bailiff came to tell us that the case had been settled out of court and we could all go home. No, I didn’t bring my knitting that day. Didn’t want to risk having my scissors or other knitting supplies confiscated. I did meet some interesting people, though.
Interesting! Love how you dealt with their pettiness.
How did someone manage to bring knitting needles? Wouldn't those be considered "weapons"?
@@InventorZahran The knitting needles were prohibited in the courtroom, but not in other areas of the courthouse like the jury deliberation rooms.
I didn’t know juries could be such a *_tight knit_* group. My apologies, I’ll see myself out now.
@@CivilizedWarrior 🤣😂🤣😂
I live in Santa Clara County, I get called for Jury Duty every one to two years ever since I turned 18. In fact, I was still in high school when I turned 18 when I was first called not a month after my birthday, and was dismissed when I explained I was still in high school (to the judge's surprise.) Then every one to two years in August or September, I get my notice. I'd estimate I've been called for jury duty nearly 20 times now (I'm 43, so it's not an exaggeration.) I've talked to the clerk (who I'm almost on a first name basis by now), and every time I'm assured it's random.
The last time I was called it was a murder that happened in San Jose that made all the headlines. So they had a jury selection pool of almost 1000 people, and it took three weeks _just_ to get through the jury selection. I somehow managed to avoid it. If felt _really_ sorry for the alternate juror.
Fortunately my union pays me the difference between jury duty and my normal salary, so I'm not losing out on money. It's just that I get behind work by several days to a week and have to make up the time.
I know _tons_ of people who've never been called a single time in their life. If I'm that lucky to be called nearly 20 times from a pool of almost 2 million people, then why can't I win the f**king lottery?
I feel like the mere fact that you're a lawyer by profession would get you shipped off with a fine howdy-do on most jury duty cases.
Not in DC because otherwise they’d have no jurors!
Normally, yes. You tell them you're a lawyer, a cop, or otherwise involved in the judiciary process and the two legal teams trip over each other to dismiss you.
Defense counsel would probably love to have a lawyer on the jury, one of the hardest parts is trying to get the jury to adhere to the “beyond a reasonable doubt” standard. Most juries will settle for “yeah, we’re pretty sure”
@@SidV101 No, they still wouldn't in 99% of cases.
Out of curiosity, why?
I was excited and happy to do Jury duty because I've been on the wrong side of the judicial system and felt railroaded(forced to plea). I feel like it's very important to help provide justice. The judge opened up with "It's important you showed up because we can use you to leverage plea deals."(paraphrased). I was dismissed because I accidently bounced a check which they called "moral turpitude". I've never been called back :(
My county court has an online waiting room. After receiving the summons, the day before the Jury Service is needed, we just need to check the website. It will tell us if our services were still needed.
This works great because it means the parking lot does not get packed with with people who wasted gas just to be told their services were no longer needed.
In retrospect, my buddy who lives in Dallas county got called in once. He go there, they deteremied they didn't need him, gave him his $5 pay for arriving . . . . and had to turn right around and pay the court back for parking. What a stupid loophole to not having to pay jurors.
That's basically how it's done in this part of the US now. Except we get the post card notifying us of the summons. We go to the website and fill out some information. As long as we don't hear anything else before the specified end date, we just go about things as usual.
My Dad was recently called in for jury duty--he got there the first day and after waiting for a while, the judge can in and told them that they were dismissed because the defendant had filed for bankruptcy the Friday before without telling the Court or their lawyer. The judge was very polite to the jurors, but they could tell she was seething...when he relayed the story to me, I couldn't help but think of your old adage, "NEVER PISS OFF THE JUDGE!"
Fun fact, lawyers are specifically excluded from Jury Duty in Australia.
Wouldn't they ve the ideal jury because they actually know the law?
@@bobowon5450you're supposed to have a jury of peers. If we wanted cases adjudicated by legal experts, we'd simply have the judge decide the case.
@@alexhogg1364 a lawyer can't be your peer?
@@bobowon5450it’s meta gaming
Same in Canada
When a juror is better than the lawyers ☠️
I’ve been a juror for two trials. The experience gave me a lot of faith in the jury system! My fellow jurors were thoughtful and thorough.
I had the opposite experience. I was told, without a hint of irony, that I was being 'presumptuous' when I reminded the other jurors of the judge's instructions about presumption of innocence.
@@WiggaMachiavelli That is awful - I’m so sorry!
@@TypoKnig I'm not traumatised, just sceptical about how well-equipped juries are.
I've been a juror on three trials. It's been a mostly good experience each time with fellow jurors who were thoughtful and took things seriously. Still, there are some things about our system that I have issues with and I hope will someday change.
the only time I was called to be in a jury I was asked if I felt the judicial system had a bias, and I said "the legal system is designed to criminalize poverty in order to extract exploited labor from prisons" I've never had my ass sent home so fast.
That sounded like something you had in your back pocket for years, just waiting for a chance to use it
@@danielshaw9979 ye pretty much, it is also my sincere belief
that's so fuckin cool
While it's commendable to speak the truth like that, it won't help the people being judged.
Perhaps next time, spoil the jury pool a bit by sharing this "neat little trick to get out of jury duty" & how it worked for you several times, with some of the most arrogant men in the waiting line that are groaning about all the money they're loosing by being there.
Keep stum on that kind of question, waffle on about duty or something.
Then when you are on the jury & it might be about to convict someone that you aren't 100% sure is absolutely guilty, pull out your trump card of "Jury Nullification"
(not legal advice, not even on the same continent)
They could not handle the truth.
Last time I was called for jury duty we were asked if any of us had interactions with the police that we thought should be brought up.
I handed three copies of this to the bailiff.
It was about half my life ago, and almost half my weight ago.
I lived in Texas and worked about ten miles away in another Texas town. I rode my bicycle to work, every day, year round. I got real good at it. I was skinny and had great lungs and strong legs. Now this was before that great Texan Lance Armstrong made bicycle riding a thing grown men could do in Texas, especially rural Texas, I was often harassed while riding.
So one day in the fall, I was riding to work before the sunrise. At about mile six, someone started tailgating me. At a red light at about mile eight I was still being tailgated.
Now a bicycle isn’t going to trip a red light, and Mr. Tailgater wasn’t close enough to trip the red light. Now this light was at the intersection of two one way streets, and I could see no one was coming, and I didn’t think Mr. Tailgater would run the red light, so after stopping and looking I got on my pedals again.
I was half way across the intersection when Mr. Tailgater flipped on his flashing blues to pull me over.
He gave me a ticket and threatened to have my bicycle towed.
Now at the time, seventy dollars, the cost of the ticket, was about what we would spend for two weeks worth of groceries for a family of five. So I really could not afford to pay the ticket. I eventually stopped by the police station to talk with the chief of police about this ticket, “I’m poor,” I said, “that’s why I ride a bicycle everywhere. That seventy dollars is about two weeks worth of groceries for my family. Could I do community service?” Chief explained, no, I couldn’t do community service, but he could write off a minimum of fifty dollars a day for each day or part of a day I spent in jail. “Well,” I told him “I am scheduled to work overtime Saturday, so I could be here Saturday at noon.” To which he said “if you are not here I will issue a warrant for your arrest.” Imagine that, an arrest warrant for stopping at then running a red light to get away from a tailgating cop. Now I never told the chief about that part.
So Saturday I arrived at the Sherman, (By the Grace of God) Texas police station just before noon. Cause I didn’t want an arrest warrant, and I had to pay my debt to society.
Chief was there and he took my shoelaces and my belt, ‘cause we don’t want no hangin’s for runnin’ a red light. Then he put me in the jail cell. I was alone in jail, the only one there that day. I was doing solitary for runnin’ a red light on a bicycle. Imagine that, solitary confinement for runnin’ a red light on a bicycle.
Not having anyone to talk with or anything else to do, I started singing. I sang Bob Seeger, Bob Dylan, Eagles, Grateful Dead, Beatles, and Pink Floyd. And I wasn’t singing any country or western.
If I remember correctly I had been singing for about four hours and was about half way through the second side of Pink Floyd’s ‘Dark Side of the Moon” (Brain Damage) when Chief came back to check on me. I thought he was bringing supper, but it looked more like something I’d seen watching the Red Sox play the Yankees. It looked like Billy Martin was getting thrown out of the game. Chief pointed at me then jerked his hand back with his thumb stuck out as he said “You’re outta here!” He gave me back my shoelaces and my belt, had me empty the trash out of his office. As I was going out the door, the last thing he said was “I never want to hear your voice again”.
That’s the truth, so help me God, the story of me, a Yankee, getting thrown out of jail in Sherman (By the Grace of God) Texas. I have paid my debt to society.
I have a relative that's also a lawyer and every time they are called up for Jury Duty they get dismissed mostly on the fact they are a lawyer. They still have to show up of course, but if they're ever picked to be a juror they are almost immediately dismissed.
That's unfortunate, knowledge of law would surely be an asset in jury duty.
@@sambradley9091 Ah I see, I guess it'd be best not to look that up then, to preserve my ability to serve my duty should I get selected, despite my curiosity, heh. 🙂
@@sambradley9091 🙂
@@sambradley9091Jury nullification is absolutely not the reason that lawyers commonly get dismissed from jury duty, I have no idea what you're talking about. It's not a big secret complex legal matter either, it's literally just a jury that decides they know better than the evidence and the law and rule against the weight of the evidence, it's not a magic button that you can't know about.
@@sambradley9091 It's absolutely not a fact that you "can't know about jury nullification". Most people who watch Legal Eagle or nearly any court show knows exactly what jury nullification is.
In Canada the reason certain people are excused from jury for being experts (esp. legal experts) has more to do with the fact that they could easily bring outside knowledge of law into the jury deliberations, and more importantly, their opinions would carry more weight with other jurors because of their expertise, which isn't the way juries are supposed to work.
„What happens when LegalEagle gets jury duty?“
He ages ten years upon finally once again receiving proper sunlight.
DC is probably the only place in the US where he could actually serve on a jury. In most places being a lawyer is almost a guarantee you won’t be chosen but DC has so many lawyers that they have to select some as jurors.
I keep telling people being a Goth keeps me young.
@@ethank5059I was wondering. I think in the UK being a lawyer (solicitor) is an automatic exclusion.
@@JohnMarshallAnarchos Do politicians get excused?
@@JohnMarshallAnarchos They used to be, and still are in Scotland and Northern Ireland, but in England and Wales no one has been disqualified on account of their profession since 2004. Perversely, even the DPP can get a summons for a criminal trial.
Got called for jury duty in Ireland, the District Court in Bray.
I got sworn ontica jury and had to come back the next day. We were advised, that for security and safety reasons, we had to enter a separate door to the main entrance. It was less than 10 metes away from the main entrance to the Courts Main entrance. Everyone walked passed it.
For further security, at lunch time, we would be sheparded to a bus and brought to a nearby hotel.
Our car parking spaces were marked as "Juror' spaces"
.........
Was it a mob trial or were they just really, really weird?
I was excited the first time I got jury duty. My husband had already been wrongly called up twice and got out both times. We were active duty at the time, and not legal residents. Both times that was the legal reason. On the second time there was also the issue of him being deployed for one of his four tours to Afghanistan. After he retired I took steps to establish residency here. I actually have received the letter saying I was selected for jury duty a few more time, but those when I called the phone number the day before it always said there would be no need of a jury pool. The first time when it said to report I did. After about maybe an hour we were told our services were no longer needed. The second time I was actually seated! The first day was getting the rest of us. This was during one of my health issues, so I was having to use my walker. Because I was the second one seated (I wound up being first because the original chair had a panic attack) i had to go into the box which you entered from the far side of the court and then traversed back down the way you came. It was painful, but I really wanted to do this. Anyway on the second day when I got to the front of the box and was on my way to the opening the judge stopped me. He didn't want me to have to take that VERY long walk all to be told we were no longer needed. They had settled the case after we had adjourned the night before. Over all it was a neat experience.
Oy I'm sorry for the prattle. :)
It is so good to see people actually interested in serving as jurors instead of trying to avoid the legal system altogether. I have a friend who isn't even registered to vote so she doesn't have to do jury duty (not that she even cares about voting either).
I didn't think a lawyer would be allowed to do jury duty. Surely, there'd be potential conflicts of interest knowing other lawyers and judges. Where I am in the world, even police and other forms of law enforcement aren't allowed to do jury duty.
That was my thought too. The jurors file in and the defense attorney, or prosecution, looks up and sees a colleague amongst them? Doesn't feel right.
There should be no problem if you know the judge because the judge should be a neutral arbiter of the law and not favoring either side on the law.
If you know one of the lawyers (as a lawyer or not) that is something that should come out during Voir Dire, and if it doesn't then you probably lied under oath, which is the sort of thing that gets mistrials.
More importantly, moment someone mentions they are a lawyer is the moment that one or both of the sides will probably strike them because having a lawyer in the jury is like playing hot potato with a grenade. The fact that they can understand the law (and other jurors will likely defer to their understanding) is going to be bad for someone, and you don't want it to be you.
They do that process before assigning you to jury duty. If you would have any amount of bias they normally dismiss you and that's that. Most of the time that's what happens anyways.
Not only knowing other officers of the court personally but also having an entire specialized body of knowledge that wouldn't be expected of the Person on the Clapham Omnibus.
They'd almost certainly be challenging by either party, not sure if it'd be considered with cause or not. The other jurors knowing they're a lawyer would give them some degree of authority which could bias the jury
I feel like there's no way a lawyer would select another lawyer for jury duty.
No they won't for like a bazillion reasons, one of which being jury nullification
I’m a lawyer and I’ve been on a jury twice. Once in DC and once in Delaware.
did they run out of other people@@Dr.Schlitz
Yeah I thought the same exact thing lmao, it’s over if he even gets to voir dire phase if they find out he’s a lawyer
Move to Baltimore, you’ll get called yearly.
Throwback to when I was assigned to jury duty while working in another state, so that was a whole drama my family and I had to do. Fortunately we got it sorted.
I served as a juror last year and I feel like I'm glad I got it because it was an incredibly interesting case: an incredibly rare situation where the defendant was granted the right to plea not guilty by reason of insanity! guilty and not guilty didn't even apply because NGRI is a separate plea and they also had a "guilty but mentally ill" verdict too. we granted him the NGRI plea unanimously after hearing the testimony of the expert witnesses who treated him.
For all of the rights we have enshrined in our Constitution, there is exactly one duty. Jury duty, we should be as proud of enabling the right to a trial by jury as we are of military service.
The first time I went to jury selection, I went on a very snowy cold day early in the morning. Stayed there for 6 hours, waiting only to be told it's cancelled, and we'd all have to come back. Went 2 days later, another snowy day, and sat for almost 4 hours, to be told it's cancelled again. Was told we had to come back next monday, but people started complaining, so they said we won't have to come back. I was called again a year later, even tho I was told they won't call me for at least 3 years. Luckily, they just sent an email the day before saying it's cancelled.
One of my closest friends (and my chess teacher) was convicted of a felony in 1999. He later had his rights restored. He's been called for jury duty twice, and both times he's been dismissed straight away after "accidentally" letting it slip that he was convicted of a felony. Both times it was the prosecution that struck him lol
With this secret trick you can get out of jury duty. Lawyers hate it.
@@ooooneeee underrated
I mean you can't "accidentally" let that slip. They question the jury. They directly ask if you've had past experience with the justice system including if you've been a defendant. And if you lie then you've committed a crime. If you truthfully say you've been a defendant then the prosecution will dismiss you as a juror.
Saying they "accidentally" let it slip doesn't really paint an accurate picture given they would have been directly asked about it.
I don't know how your friend told the story. But they didn't pull anything over them. They got the only outcome that was ever going to happen.
@@hamsterfromabove8905I was on jury duty not that long ago, and they asked us several times if we had a felony. Once in the summoning letter, once in the voicemail message I had to listen to the night before, three times in the jury assembly room and then the judge asked right before jury selection. They give you plenty of opportunities to bring it up.
I got called for trial jury duty while I was living away from home attending college. Thankfully I was deferred until after graduation a couple months later. I sat in a room for couple hours then was dismissed. A couple years ago I got called up to serve on a grand jury. That is an experience I won’t be forgetting. I definitely learned a lot.
Anything noteworthy happen?
My experience with jury duty is that they don't want you on the jury if you have any knowledge of the law or know what the lawyers are actually supposed to be proving to you. I have only ever been called once, and the fact that I had worked in a law office for nearly 10 years meant that none of the lawyers for any of the cases for that month wanted me anywhere close to being in that room. My favorite question I was ever asked was "will you hold me to the same level of ability as the lawyer you work for?" And I of course said "why would I not?" And got to actively watch my name get scratched off the list. The county I lived in at the time though, did pay you for your time while going through the screening process for the month. Minimum wage but it was still payment.
I've only ever had jury duty once, when I was 20. It was the most miserable, boring week of my life and a total waste of taxpayer money. An old guy tried suing a college kid over medical issues related to an accident and had literally zero legitimate reasons for doing so. It was clear before lunch on day 1. I don't know how he got a lawyer to even take the case. His own doctor said nothing was wrong with him. I was paid like $10 a day, which they taxed, and on deliberation day i was given the driest chicken sandwich I've ever had for lunch. It took us longer to eat than to all agree the old guy was full of shit. I still get mad about the week I'll never get back when people bring up jury duty.
Same. Early twenties still in college. Malpractice suit, which resulted in death. The death could've been prevented by the person who died. Week long service to tell me at the the end that I was the alternate juror and I can go home. I had zero say on the verdict. Still upsets me
Sounds to me like you are both lucky. I've been called more times that I can count, often every 18 months, usually sat in the jury lounge for the better part of a day before being dismissed. Sometimes I had to call every evening for the rest of the week to see if I had to report, usually didn't.
I've been in the jury pool for a trial several times but not empaneled. Served on two juries, one which I won't discuss, the other for a guy trying to weasel out of a traffic ticket for speeding in a school zone (we found him guilty).
Maybe if more people had to serve on the jury for frivolous lawsuits, the number of said lawsuits would drop because those jurors, when contemplating bringing a suit, themselves, would recognize their own foolishness and not bring the suit. But then, nah, people tend to believe in their own righteousness.
Idk what country you're in (America I assume), but in the UK your job pays you as if you went in for work if you get jury duty
@@jocoder255 employers are required to compensate in the US. It's just not the full amount of your pay. I think it can depend on the state too.
@@wesanderson4773 Ah that sucks.
Two summers ago I got called for jury duty and ended up being on a 4 week long medical malpractice case 😮 It was a sad thing to be a part of but I learned a LOT (mostly the signs of, and process of treating, a stroke - very good info). Glad I won’t have to get called again for awhile. Met some wonderful people in the process. We said we’d keep in touch, but haven’t. Which is maybe for the best, in the end
I was called for jury duty a few times when I lived in DC. Sat on one petit jury and one Grand jury as the 1 of 3 forepersons! The Grand jury proceedings were wild. Cases even wilder! Grand jury room had no windows, 1 door and moody jurors!
Are you sure you weren't being initiated by a cult? Were there candles and chanting and strange glyphs written in blood?
@@PenguinLord10 Damn. I knew there was something off about Gaitherization.
Well, I’d be moody too. I prefer at least two escape routes.
We got paid $10 PER DAY. With that comes a form asking IF you want to donate it to the Home for foster kids or Shelter for victims of Domestic violence.
What about the form to petition the govt to just support those things with the funds we pay into the govt...
And the same form to report a min wage violation by any other name
I assume that you also get reimbursed for your full wage for every work you missed? Or do your employer has to pay for that?
@@Jehty_ Neither one does; thats the beauty of the system
Sure sure, some states have other laws changin that; but not all, and federal territories are the least likely to have such laws bcuz the feds refuse to let them control their own affairs ever
@@SylviaRustyFae but isn't jury duty potentially dozens of hours?
How is anyone (with low income) supposed to afford to lose that much income?
@@Jehty_ Thats the thing; we're not
I’ve never been called for jury duty. I got put on a wait list once but never had to go to the courthouse. My brother got called while living on an island in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. Thankfully they accepted his excuse for not being available.
I was called for jury duty once. One of the first questions the judge asked of the whole pool was if anyone had legal training beyond business law. One person in our pool had training in labor law, but that was it. I think any lawyer or paralegal would have been excused at that point because they knew too much.
I was recently called in for Jury duty for a personal injury case and felt very empowered about the process thanks to your videos.
I'm sorry you didn't get to serve, but you're doing a great civil justice for the rest of us. Keep up the great work!
15 minutes and two years exemption?! Here in Florida I reported today, waited six hours, and only get one year off, and this is my third summons in the past 4 years!
I CRIED when I called and they told me I wasn't needed anymore. I was so excited and then nope. 😂😢
I work in elections, securing the franchise of every voter to vote, and i celebrate being called for jury duty. They're the same thing.
I’ve always wanted to be a juror, but both times I got called on I had important work and life things planned so I couldn’t.
I really hope I get another chance this year!
Only ever been called twice. Once in a city I didn't live in (clerical error from a car registration). The other time, I filled out the craziest questionnaire online, and then never had to go in. One of the questions let them know I am vehemently anti-death penalty. Several others let them know I don't have a very favorable view of law enforcement.
That's certainly a way to get around jury duty, be as unhinged as possible on the questionnaire.
@@unicorntulkas You think being against the death penalty and not liking cops is as unhinged as possible?
So much for a fair jury of your peers if they only allow people who suppourt the death penalty and trust cops
"Judged by the american people we explicitly selected to do it in a way we want"
@@thechestrockfieldit unironically is in today's climate. Politics have become terrifyingly polarizing.
I've been on a jury (and called 2 or 3 other times). It's an important duty and a really interesting process! I wish it could be made easier for people like parents and others who have work it's difficult to get out of. We need a diverse pool of jurors!
I got summoned to jury duty in New Jersey, when I was living in Connecticut. I had to take time off of work and bring in proof of address, so that they understood that I didn't live in NJ anymore. I live in Rhode Island now, and I'm a truck driver. I was in Spokane, WA at the time of the date they wanted me to come in and had to call them ahead of time to explain.
I did jury duty once. Turned up unbiased, notebook in hand, ready to do my civic duty. It was a civil personal injury case where the plaintiff was claiming back injury from being rear-ended. After the lunch break we were told that it had just been realized that the chiropractor who had treated the plaintiff had previously treated her for back pain before and that had to be disclosed to us. When the defense attorney's time came he merely showed us a couple photos of the plaintiff's bumper which was maybe a little bit tilted, but looked normal otherwise. We deliberated about ten minutes, all being in agreement that the plaintiff got nothing. It was a disappointing, but also interesting experience!
Jury duty was one of the single most fascinating, eye-opening, thought-provoking, educational, fun (in it's own weird way), life-changing things I've ever done. I think everyone capable of serving, should. It can change how you view the law and verdicts that get reached. I will basically never blame a jury for a "weird" or "bad" trial verdict after serving. I know people are always like "how could the jury vote that way!?" but now I know how and I put the blame on just about anyone but the jury most of the time.
It really is our civic duty. And to take it seriously... as I hope any jury I might be judged by would be (fingers crossed I never have to, though). And, yeah, it's easy to blame the jury when you had the benefit of background or evidence that the jury might never have heard.
@@EricaGamet That's exactly it.
People watch something like the O.J. Simpson trial and then get all mad at the jury, but forget that they saw more at home, on TV, than the jury did live. Most of the stuff people point to and go "how could the jury ignore that!?" the jury never even saw! A lot of those memorable TV moments were them literally arguing "CAN we even show this to the jury or not?" and then the jury may see nothing, or some small subset, where the viewer saw more.
One of the most fascinating things to me was after the case--and I didn't know this was a thing--the lawyers were allowed to come and talk to us freely and ask us questions and answer some of ours. And we learned about things we had not seen (in my case it only strengthened our decision, luckily, rather than make us second guess it). But there were gaps in the prosecution's case and we could ask "why didn't you say this one thing?" or "why didn't you show us this kind of evidence?"
PLUS, juries see and hear more than transcripts. I've definitely read some court transcripts after a case and thought "sure, these are his words, but how convincingly were those words spoken?" We has several weird moments in our trial where the witness's demeanor, body language, and tone seemed to say just as much as their words did and it could make their testimony feel more or less trustworthy--and NONE of that is captured in the transcript.
So yeah, unless it's clear the jury screwed up through some intentional malfeasance or whatever, I never blame them. I blame the judge for not instructing them properly, perhaps, or the defense or prosecution for not putting on a strong enough case or fumbling key pieces of evidence, but juries can only go on what they've got and what they get does not always align with what everyone else gets.
He obviously missed the motto written over the courthouse: "No RUclipsrs"
First time I got called in for jury duty I showed up for it early and hurriedly changed into a polo shirt and dress pants in a library near the courthouse, then saw that everyone was wearing their street clothes in the grand jury room.
I went casual every time after that.
I was a juror on a murder trial, and it was fascinating. I actually enjoyed it. It was interesting to see all the processes of the law. Plus, we had exciting things like attempted jury tampering and a witness that if he was on Law and Order, no one would believe it. Oh, and a surprise last-minute witness. It was quite cool.
Same thing happened to me when I went for jury duty but here is AUS you are off the roll for 5 years. I was so excited to be on a jury duty
I’m an attorney as well and always thought it was funny when I was summoned. Unfortunately, I had medical issues all 3 times. I wonder what the percentage is for strikes for attorney jurors.
I'm sort of curious if attorneys would like having attorneys on the jury. Not sure I would, were I lawyer. Having people reexplain what I said sounds risky...
@@JPBelangerThey almost always don’t like it. They want a juror that they can still possibly persuade through less than colorable claims about their client the evidence etc even if their case isn’t exactly rock solid. You’ll see them sometimes try to win the jury’s sympathy or discredit the other party’s character etc. An attorney will see through those type of strategies.
@@bendavidson1210- I heard the same is true of not liking engineers, presumably because many of us would be mostly interested in just the facts and truth of the matter.
(Many of us can also be somewhat stubborn and immune to simple peer pressure-especially if there isn’t a manager bringing the hammer down on budget, schedule, etc, to stop analyzing or deliberating-, so I can imagine both sides might have a fear of a mistrial “not going along with the majority” or perhaps just dragging deliberations out.)
As long as it wasn't bone spurs. If the attorney is worth something more then collecting a check. I'm betting they strike attorneys 100 percent of the time. I would.
"I wonder what the percentage is for strikes for attorney jurors."
I'd bet money it's 100%. No one wants someone with that much potential influence on their jury. Jurors would defer to the attorney on matters of law, and that attorney would likely be the one deciding the result due to that.
*WHEN I TURNED 14, I GOT MY DRIVERS LICENSE....I WAS IMMEDIATELY CALLED TO JURY DUTY EVERY TIME FOR 6 MONTHS AND HAD TO KEEP EXPLAINING THAT I WAS A MINOR!*
You have a 0% chance of being selected as a juror, but at least you showed up.
Served on a jury in 2017. The trial was a fiasco. Language barriers, a five-year wait, and general incompetence tainted the whole experience.
In 2022, I came in, I wasn't picked, and I had to call in to see if I had to come in again (I didn't, thankfully).
It's a bit of a missed opportunity that you weren't picked. Learning of everything afterward would have been illuminating.
I got called for district court jury duty, but defendant pleaded when the jury walked in. Then I got for for federal jury duty, and the case didn't go. I was grateful since I had one of my own trials coming up.
As a lawyer or as a defendant?
I have done jury duty and really enjoyed it. My husband was on a Grand Jury for three months and really enjoyed it.
Alas now that I’m over 65 I am no longer eligible for jury duty. Kind of like when they took me off the bone marrow donor list when I turned 60.
It sucks.
Good job!
I've been called exactly once. I have several disabilities that would've made it arduous, so I got a doctor's note excusing me.
I’ve always wanted to serve on a jury but the two times I’ve been called, I had to call an 800 number the day before and was told I didn’t have to report.
I felt that. My most recent time I got real excited, even got assigned to something and was expecting to come back the next day, but they took a plea deal and we were released
Getting called for jury duty used to not bother me. However, our county recently made some changes that have me dreading getting summoned. You are not allowed to take anything with you; no phone, no electronic devices, no books, no newspaper, nothing.
Might depend on the location. We could bring all of our electronics with us to the jury lounge last time I was called. They even have workspaces set up and wifi. We could bring our phones into the courtroom but they had to be turned off. I left mine in a locker in the jury lounge so I didn't somehow have it go off and get kicked out. Your attention as a juror should be only on the trial in the courtroom. Generally they don't want you reading news unless someone vets it for you.
@@EricaGamet Definitely depends on location. It's not even consistent between the counties in my state.
God knows how they intend to enforce that. Strip search?
@@theMoporter You have to go through metal detectors and you aren't allowed to carry anything with you.
I’ve been called for jury duty twice, didn’t sit a trial either time. The first time, the defendant took a plea deal right before the jury was seated; we were literally in the hallway right outside the courtroom door. The second time, I made it all the way through voir dire, then during opening arguments the defense attorney basically suggested jury nullification. The judge was *pissed*, sent us all home as a tainted jury.
Isn't a lawyer suggesting anything near jury nullification just someone putting themselves in a fast line to being disbarred as they are actively sabotaging the court?
I spent two weeks on a jury a while back, was the foreman even. It was a VERY enlightening experience!
I served on a jury right before this most recent thanksgiving for a murder trial and it was fascinating but exhausting. The jurors I served with were *so* lovely and very willing to re-watch and re-listen to evidence on the case, I'm very comfortable with the two verdicts we were asked to deliver, especially once we were allowed time to review evidence during deliberations.
I'm glad to hear you don't have regrets about the verdict. I found out information about the defendant that couldn't be brought up in court. If I had known it I and I think the other jurors would have voted guilty.
@@sprint7412 the defendant was actually the nephew of a friend of mine and I had no idea until afterwards. We're still friends, if anything we're closer friends than we were before because their family understands how heavy it was to review murder evidence. Currently the trial for the guy's friend is going and I'm watching like a hawk for news about it.
That's pretty much how it went down with the two times I've been called for jury duty. No cases needed for you at the moment. Luckily notified of that via a call and automated message rather than sitting/standing around at the court house to find out.
My Mom, who's in her early 70s, has never once been called for jury duty while my Dad (similar age), has been called probably a dozen times and sat on a few trials.
That happened to my grandparents. Grandpa was called a few times, but Grandma wasn’t… until a couple weeks after she died. Even if she was alive and able to attend, she could have been excused for it in our local court system bc she was age 70+ and had a painful disability for most of her life.
Im almost 40 years old and have only been called to jury duty once. I received the notice in the mail after recently moving and called to tell them I recently moved and no longer lived in the city. They took me off the list and told me I didn't have to show up. When I was a kid, my mom was called to jury duty several times. It's strange how some people have to serve multiple times and some people never get jury duty.
I did Jury Duty when I was 21 for a murder trial. It was honestly a very interesting (albeit harrowing) case, and I actually really enjoyed the experience.
I've never seen anyone stoked for jury duty before. 😆