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  • @justinbishopmusic
    @justinbishopmusic  Год назад

    Some of you asked for a dry signal with no effects. Here you go: ruclips.net/video/oVgzf2_T-_c/видео.html I was using a plugin (Neural DSP Tone King Imperial), not a real amp, so I could go back and edit the settings. This is a dry signal through the plugin with no effects and volume, bass, treble at 12 o'clock.

    • @f1s2hg3
      @f1s2hg3 Год назад

      Leo Fender was secretly working with players and Les Paul was Leo Fenders consultant for making the broadcaster. Leo Fender was working with many other great people who helped him so don’t think Leo is god!

  • @darwinsaye
    @darwinsaye Год назад +90

    The Squier sounds like it has slightly more bass in both pickup positions. Other than that it was almost indistinguishable, which makes me feel really good about my made in China CV Tele, because I'll never be able to afford any more real vintage guitars since the market went insane.

    • @justinbishopmusic
      @justinbishopmusic  Год назад +12

      Yeah, I’m feeling much more confident about my Squier right now too!

    • @millmoormichael6630
      @millmoormichael6630 Год назад +1

      Whoa, dude listen with proper can at 6:30, that’s night and day

    • @smelltheglove2038
      @smelltheglove2038 Год назад +6

      Classic Vibes are made in Indonesia. One of the reasons I actually own one. I will never buy an affinity squire, as those are made in China. Not buying Chinese products isnt as hard as you’d think. I just don’t buy crap from dollar store, or Walmart, or Amazon.

    • @darwinsaye
      @darwinsaye Год назад +20

      @@smelltheglove2038 Classic Vibes we’re definitely made in China, for years, up until 2019 or 2020. It’s identified right in the serial numbers. The new ones are made in Indonesia and are slightly lesser quality than the Chinese made ones. Indonesia models have mini potentiometers instead of the full-sized ones, steel bridge saddles instead of brass, and less or no cavity shielding. And by the way, not everyone is against buying products from China.

    • @lueysixty-six7300
      @lueysixty-six7300 Год назад +2

      @@darwinsaye Boom! 🖐️
      🎤 💥

  • @lassesuurmunne8340
    @lassesuurmunne8340 Год назад +16

    The first thing I noticed was that you seemed to instantly enjoy playing the Nocaster a bit more, it looked like it was more comfortable to play for you. But both sounded amazing honestly. The Squier really shocked me how good and comparable it was. That bridge pickup on the Nocaster was really something very special though, a lot of mojo. But both sounded awesome! 🙏 and what a great idea for a video, I’ve never seen anyone compare a Squier to a real vintage Fender like this! It’s usually custom shop vs vintage so this was a great idea!

  • @reverb508
    @reverb508 Год назад +13

    I've been playing guitar for nearly 30 years and have owned guitars in all price ranges from budget to boutique (no vintage, though. Not yet anyway). I can say with some authority that more expensive guitars don't necessarily sound or play better than their inexpensive counterparts. Sure, the component selection and QC is often better, but at the end of the day, I could be just as happy playing my Squier Jazzmaster as my Novo Serus J. They're both awesome.

  • @ferox965
    @ferox965 Год назад +19

    The biggest selling point for me on the Classic Vibe was the neck. I'm a bassist and a Les Paul man but was looking for Tele twang. The Squier punches way above its weight for the price. The only other Tele neck I liked was the Fender Player plus. Definitely putting in new pickups.

    • @Baci302
      @Baci302 Год назад

      Congrats! What amp are you playing it through?

    • @KillerKev1961
      @KillerKev1961 3 месяца назад

      FANTASTIC NECK. Perfect, right outta the box.

  • @kaetce
    @kaetce Год назад +9

    The Squire Classic Vibes are legit

  • @maxhenry9724
    @maxhenry9724 Год назад +89

    Wasted opportunity. Should have thrown the pedals out the window. I would have loved to hear the instruments.

    • @justinbishopmusic
      @justinbishopmusic  Год назад +6

      It’s done with a plug-in. I’ll reamp it dry and post an update.

    • @mattrogers1946
      @mattrogers1946 Год назад +11

      Exactly! Just plug it into a 4x10 Bassman...

    • @smelltheglove2038
      @smelltheglove2038 Год назад +1

      @@mattrogers1946 seriously. Get that digital crap outta here. Let’s here some analog sound. The digital “modeling” destroys tone. I know everyone claims they can’t tell the difference. That’s bullshit.

    • @mattrogers1946
      @mattrogers1946 Год назад

      @E I was paying attention. The sound of kept getting in the way.

    • @justinbishopmusic
      @justinbishopmusic  Год назад +1

      I was using a plugin (not a real amp), so here is a dry signal through the plugin with no effects and volume, bass, treble at 12 o'clock: ruclips.net/video/oVgzf2_T-_c/видео.html

  • @michaelpond6386
    @michaelpond6386 7 месяцев назад +2

    They sound remarkably similar to my ear, but a clean signal straight to amp would have been a better comparison.
    Back in those days Fender also made a ton of lap steels for country music.

  • @musicplaylists59
    @musicplaylists59 Год назад +6

    they sounded very similar! would be interesting if you set the pickup heights as close as you could get them because that makes a pretty big difference to the sound, if the pickup heights were matched on the two guitars they would sound even more similar.

  • @kmichaelp4508
    @kmichaelp4508 Год назад +4

    Bill Frisell still plays one. Mine has a modified V neck, more of the V toward the bass E string for thumb comfort. But mine is a custom made for my liking.

    • @justinbishopmusic
      @justinbishopmusic  Год назад +1

      I had no idea there was so much variation with neck shapes. My cousin told me later that even though Gibson calls some of their necks on guitars “50s” or “60s” necks, they actually were different almost every year and sometimes even small variations within the same year. I think this is something we lose when ordering online…you have no idea how it will really feel! Your modified V sounds interesting, and I hope to try one some day. I was definitely a fan of this soft V!

    • @kmichaelp4508
      @kmichaelp4508 Год назад +2

      @@justinbishopmusic , well good luck with that. You don’t see modified V necks unless you get custom shop or have one made. But everyone that has played mine loves it.

  • @Guitar5986
    @Guitar5986 Год назад +13

    Great video. For future comparisons it's best to turn off the heavy effects. Or at least turn them down to a minimal volume. Also, some back & forth with & without gain. Most of what I'm hearing in the video is reverb & amp. The instruments nuances are glossed over which is going to minimize the role of the guitar in the sound, thus making pretty much any two guitars sound similar.

    • @justinbishopmusic
      @justinbishopmusic  Год назад +6

      Thanks. I had about 20 minutes as my cousin was passing through town, so this was all I was able to get. But I’ll try to keep your advice in mind. I was using a Neural DSP plugin instead of a live amp, so I’ll try to go back and redo the comparison portion with a cleaner signal.

    • @camilo1455
      @camilo1455 Год назад

      @@justinbishopmusic thanks for this update, I agree with the comment. I've had to unsub reviewers who insist on playing dirty. Or even with pots dimed all the time. They usually end up sounding like themselves, no matter what they're playing. I look forward to another video, see how they really compare. I might try a different bridge pickup on my Squier, just don't know which one yet. The neck pickup is very nice as is.

    • @Daddy53751
      @Daddy53751 Год назад

      @@justinbishopmusic as a player of almost 50 years now, and a builder in my old age, I gotta agree.
      Best (if possible of course) to go straight into an old amp for true sound comparisons.
      There’s a whole lot of hype with vintage and custom guitars.
      In my book, the biggie for all out awesomeness is old, old cured wood. That DOES make a difference, and to a smaller degree, old pickups. (In certain cases)
      We could argue the merits of high end pickups from here to doomsday, but my position is “high dollar big name” PUs are mostly hype.
      I’ve kinda made a study of cheap pickups, and I mean CHEAP, eBay, diy kit, chibson knock off, et all.
      I’ve discovered that a simple potting and experimenting with replacement of magnets to create different vibes, lead to some seriously nice PUs! (Neodymium magnets of different sizes and strengths are my general go to)

    • @smelltheglove2038
      @smelltheglove2038 Год назад

      @@camilo1455 if you’re looking for accurate sounds from RUclips videos you’re never going to find them. All the audio is compressed and lossy losing lots of the dynamics in the tone. You’ll never get an accurate portrayal on RUclips.

    • @Lukronius
      @Lukronius Год назад +3

      @@Daddy53751 I absolutely agree with you about hype being the driving force in a huge portion of pickup upgrade sales. Most of it is just a perceived gain.
      However, your statement about aged, dried wood for a solid-body electric like this making a substantial tonal difference for awesomeness is simply wrong, and has been incontrovertibly disproven many time over.
      The entire point of the solid-body design is to direct as much tonality and control as possible to the electronics, and it always has been. As a retired luthier, building and working on guitars and very high-end orchestral strings, I’ve been fortunate to hear the differences between many instruments. Even in the finest acoustic instruments, there’s far more to the construction itself (wood thickness, bracing and jointing methods, etc), than there really is in the age or even species of most woods. With electric guitars, that’s really about 99.9% thrown out. You could take the oldest, dryest Tele body and swap it for a modern Tele body, and… you would never be able to 100% tell the difference by sound alone. Why? Because there are far too many variables in an electric guitar’s sound that actually impact things. String material, gauge, pickup height and winding, wiring, and heaven forbid - the amp - just to name a few. Tonewoods for electrics is complete placebo.

  • @RedtreeJoe
    @RedtreeJoe Год назад +2

    generally modern fender telecasters are even heavier than the pine used in the squier classic vibes. the swamp ash fender used in the 50s got used up real quick, and by the 70s they were so heavy they were trying to do weight relief, like in the "smugger" series.

  • @GK-vj9dz
    @GK-vj9dz 3 месяца назад +1

    i don't know if it's been mentioned, but you can get both pickups together on the early teles by jimmying the switch between the bridge and middle setting. just like the old strats did to get the 2 and 4 quack positions.

  • @ToddSauve
    @ToddSauve Год назад +9

    The Nocaster sounds glorious! But I'll take the Squier and keep several hundred thousand $$$ in my pocket, thank you very much!

    • @alanknott363
      @alanknott363 Год назад +1

      Yes, I would be very happy with the Squier too. Not that I could afford the Nocaster anyways haha..

    • @CJZM7777
      @CJZM7777 10 месяцев назад +1

      Yes, If I paid $50,000 for a guitar, I would be afraid to play it.

  • @oldasrocks9121
    @oldasrocks9121 Год назад +1

    Push the "dark neck" through some gain, you'll see. Most Nocaster wiring uses a much lower value cap than the original .5uf, which was in place for a rhythm player to back up the upright bass player.
    On my Nocaster wired tele I use the BJFe Honeypot drive pedal as a tone control, I built the pedal with bass and tone controls so I just roll off the treble with my toe. Any good eq'd drive will do.

  • @ryangunwitch-black
    @ryangunwitch-black Год назад +1

    Must be Classic Vibe Tele day on my feed this morning. I'll say it again.... They're pretty great guitars for the price. I got mine "used" for under 400 bucks. Still had the plastic on the pick guard and neck pup. It's not a lightweight but neither am I!😂

  • @leesloan8216
    @leesloan8216 Год назад +3

    Gretsch's Broadkaster ( yes I spelt that correct) was s Drum kit, not a guitar.

    • @phil-1115
      @phil-1115 9 месяцев назад

      That's what I thought too.

  • @williamknell864
    @williamknell864 Год назад +2

    Fender was also making lap steel guitars, even before making "spanish style" guitars.
    That's where the pickup ideas, bridge and modular control plates came from.

  • @Dreyno
    @Dreyno 7 месяцев назад

    I have a Strat (Classic Players 50s MIM) that has a soft V neck. I love it.

  • @jezmez68
    @jezmez68 Год назад +2

    A lot of discussion about the weight of the guitars. Yes, the Classic Vibe is made of pine and those are HOSS guitars. I love my nearly 10-lb CV. I get it's a comfort thing, but I don't really mind a heavy guitar if it's comfortable. There's a ton of history about Fender and what was going on with him/them at this time. You should check it out.

    • @johnhulsker1453
      @johnhulsker1453 Год назад

      In this day and age, it doubles as self defense,

  • @garycoates4987
    @garycoates4987 Год назад +2

    Ed Bickert and Oscar Moore switched to tele later, also Ted Greene in the 80s , while not a tele or specifically jazz Western swing guitarist Eldon shamblin used a stratocaster from the 50s onward

  • @lueysixty-six7300
    @lueysixty-six7300 Год назад +4

    Imagine there was a fire, so you battle the smoke and flames to save the Nocaster...but when you get outside, and the building is engulfed in hungry flame, you look down to your pride and joy in your hand..and see Squier... 😱

  • @boatingforbeginners7949
    @boatingforbeginners7949 Год назад

    The experience ive had with vintage guitars is that everything feels just right, esp the neck, whether thats down to wear n tear from years of playing or they shaved a lil more off the neck for comfort at the factory than they do these days i'm not sure, one thing i have noticed is that very often the radias of the necks seem a lil slimmer and usually theres no valute where the neck meets the headstock.. it the same on strats too and they feel immediately super comfortable, in fact they feel dam perfect and very inspiring to play.. interesting video guys n thanks for sharing.. Rock n Roll

  • @benlogan430
    @benlogan430 Год назад +2

    The finish on the vintage one is the stuff, but a CV sounds pretty dang good. They (CV) could use upgraded tuners, but other than that good to go. Although you can’t replicate the tone and light weight of the older vintage instruments. Older super dried wood sounds more resonance and has greater sustain.

  • @redbarchetta8782
    @redbarchetta8782 Год назад

    I have a 2006 Nocaster Custom Shop that is that exact guitar. Mine 'was' a NOS series guitar and was wired like that as well, but I changed to a custom made control setup with original style handmade paper cap with the modern setup so no blend. Now it looks more like that original. I love those necks.

    • @vintagebikes4215
      @vintagebikes4215 Год назад

      Many a player would be unhappy with your changing the wiring.

  • @thatduck6753
    @thatduck6753 Год назад +1

    It was a drum kit called the broadcaster

  • @jannevaatainen
    @jannevaatainen Год назад +6

    I'm surprised how good the Classic Vice sounds even when compared to a Nocaster.

  • @benjaminsoundandprojects3710
    @benjaminsoundandprojects3710 Год назад +2

    Well these guys need to go down the Jazz tele rabbit hole. There are some Jazz greats that use the Tele.

  • @markjohnson9485
    @markjohnson9485 Год назад +7

    Jazz legend Ed Bickert is and has been a Tele player for many ,many years...

    • @justinbishopmusic
      @justinbishopmusic  Год назад +1

      Oh, thank you! Just looked him up…great stuff! I’m about 6 months into learning jazz, and I’m soaking it all up. A lot of the chords feel easier on my Tele, so now I have someone to emulate!

    • @markjohnson9485
      @markjohnson9485 Год назад

      @@justinbishopmusic I love telecasters I've had about 7 or 8 of them. I had a 59 reissue that Fender came out with in the eighties I ended up selling it to a guy who played guitar for the Judds! I wish I had that 1 back LOL I have made many a jazz gig with one. Enjoy your axe bro.

  • @rev.jeremyhall
    @rev.jeremyhall Год назад +4

    So cool. that nocaster has so much soul

    • @justinbishopmusic
      @justinbishopmusic  Год назад +2

      I kinda want to put that original wiring in mine. Am I a weirdo?

    • @j.l.hennig4339
      @j.l.hennig4339 Год назад +1

      @@justinbishopmusic It's a question of what kind of sounds you have in mind. I was looking for something more retro but personally don't like not being able to use both pickups together so I recently changed mine to the old Broadcaster wiring, which instead of a tone control has a blend pot that allows continuously mixing the two pickups, offering sounds not possible with either of the other circuits. The other positions are: neck pickup alone and "bassy" tone as in the old Telecaster circuit. It might be an interesting alternative if you don't use the tone pot a lot in your playing, the blend pot can still take some of the "edge" off the bridge pickup.

    • @jgab7042
      @jgab7042 Год назад

      I think the classic vibe sounded fuller

  • @astridlenore
    @astridlenore 4 месяца назад

    Props to Squier, they make an amazing reproduction for the price point, but that light ash body makes a world of difference. So much more air to the tones, and the pickups and wiring are amazing on the no/broadcasters. I reworked my Squier thinline to similar specs and have not for a moment regretted it, but it still pales in comparison to the genuine article.

  • @cubano100pct
    @cubano100pct Год назад +1

    I would like to see a comparison between the two guitars on the video with the new Fender American Vintage II 1951 Telecaster.

  • @elnyoutube123
    @elnyoutube123 Год назад +1

    Everyone is saying they sounded similar but they sounded completely different to me. The Squier had more mid bass and the Fender had a very clear high end and kind of grungy sound on the lower notes.

  • @UCS0608
    @UCS0608 Год назад +1

    It's hard to compare the two in this clip, because A; at first it's too distorted and B: I think you should play the same riffs on both guitars.... 😉 But I know the '51 is a great guitar and I use a first series CV (modded, I put Fender 51 Nocaster CS pu's in it!) as a back up for my 1969 Tele. It's a good guitar, great value for the money!

  • @jerrymcgeorge4117
    @jerrymcgeorge4117 Год назад +1

    The Squier is a nice guitar and a great value. The neck profile, fingerboard radius and large frets hit the contemporary high spots. The pine body is rather heavy, mine weighs as much as a Les Paul. The electronics leave a bit to be desired but are very easy to swap out for true Tele bits.

    • @steveturner6770
      @steveturner6770 Год назад +3

      its the weight that puts me off, the rest of a classic vibe is excellent.

    • @jannevaatainen
      @jannevaatainen Год назад

      I can't understand how they managed to get a pine body weight so much. Usually pine is very light wood.

    • @konstantinoskrevvatas
      @konstantinoskrevvatas Год назад

      As with Harley Benton, in budget guitars woods from the top of the tree is used. This wood is more dense.

  • @CJZM7777
    @CJZM7777 10 месяцев назад +2

    As far as sound, there are many guitars under $1,000 that get very very close to much more expensive guitars. I like blind play tests the best and on many occasions, I picked the $500 guitar instead of the $5K custom shop. It would be cool to own a collection of vintage guitars but they would mostly sit around in the case. I wouldn't feel comfortable putting a vintage guitar on a stand with adult family members, pets and grand kids running around the house. If a $500 guitar was knocked over, it wouldn't be good but it wouldn't be the end of the world.

    • @justinbishopmusic
      @justinbishopmusic  10 месяцев назад +1

      Yes, and I’ve seen Gibson headstocks snap after a cable under the stand got tugged causing it to fall over. 🥴

  • @SoulForty5Music
    @SoulForty5Music Год назад +3

    Squier for me... It's so close idk why I wouldn't just keep most my money and get a perfectly good Squier guitar.

  • @bobcabo4509
    @bobcabo4509 11 месяцев назад +1

    Such a slight differerence, it's not worth mentioning. The Squier is a no brainer, not only for the huge price difference, but if someone steals the Squier, you run down to the store and buy another. If someone steals the Fender...well you run down to the store and buy a Squier.

  • @ipuya
    @ipuya Год назад +5

    Its beautiful but i thought they both sound great 🤷🏻‍♂️
    I have a Baja Tele with the same soft V neck and love it.

    • @justinbishopmusic
      @justinbishopmusic  Год назад

      I can’t believe how much they sound alike! Ok, thanks for the tip on the Baja…I’ll add that to my list!

  • @mugsypea
    @mugsypea Год назад +1

    I googled 1951 original No-Caster and found a few in the five figure price range and the Squire is $450. Is there really that big of a difference to warrant five figures difference in price?

    • @justinbishopmusic
      @justinbishopmusic  Год назад +2

      Exactly! I’m keeping my Squier!

    • @phil-1115
      @phil-1115 9 месяцев назад

      Only because of how rare they are.

  • @janstaugaard4098
    @janstaugaard4098 Год назад +3

    I have to say the squier sounds great 👌

  • @moxapunk1
    @moxapunk1 8 месяцев назад

    What a beautiful piece of History!

    • @benbladeeee9973
      @benbladeeee9973 4 месяца назад

      Yeah , that is what the classic vibe is .

  • @gerardoromano3436
    @gerardoromano3436 Год назад +1

    this video is gonna hi rocket the price of the Squiers Classic Vibe, wich is a good thing because I own one :). Honsestly I would never sell It. It´s a keeper. I paid 300 bucks in 2010 brand new! It´s one of my best guitars.

  • @jamesbagshaw8251
    @jamesbagshaw8251 Год назад

    I just bought a vintage correct set of Nocaster pups from Q in Croatia - I'll be very interested to compare them to this!

  • @AndyDion
    @AndyDion Год назад +1

    Very cool to play a 51
    Definitely a bucket list guitar
    They still make soft and hard V necks
    Production Clapton strats have v neck
    Warmouth makes V necks too
    Country Western music was popular and that’s the guys Leo was testing the 49 snakehead and eventually Tele with.
    That’s why he was using pedal steel bridge as well.

    • @justinbishopmusic
      @justinbishopmusic  Год назад

      I’ve got my eye out for a “Baja” tele which apparently has the soft V. The Clapton strat looks super cool too, and with the active pickup boost as well. The closest thing in my collection to this neck shape is a 1962 Gretsch 6118 that I just acquired. I can’t get enough of it!

    • @smoothguitarforever
      @smoothguitarforever Год назад

      The brad paisley esquire has a hard V and reliced nitro finish!

    • @rafaelzengo5534
      @rafaelzengo5534 Год назад

      @@justinbishopmusic the Baja telecaster has a soft V indeed. I have one. I’d call it a very soft V, mostly noticeable below the 5th-7th fret. After that it’s practically non existent to me.

  • @grahamspence3294
    @grahamspence3294 Год назад

    Great video thanks for making it

  • @Arcade1959
    @Arcade1959 7 месяцев назад

    What year is your Classic Vibe from ? One before 2019 or the new series ?

    • @justinbishopmusic
      @justinbishopmusic  7 месяцев назад +1

      It’s made in Indonesia. I think it’s a 2020. My only complaint was tuning stability. Probably needs nut work.

  • @jimmyjimmy951
    @jimmyjimmy951 Год назад +6

    Let’s face it, the difference is in the nostalgic sentiment. In 70 years some bloke will be comparing a classic vibe and drooling over the played in feel.. 😂

    • @justinbishopmusic
      @justinbishopmusic  Год назад +4

      Let’s get ahead of the game… I’ll sell you my classic vibe for $50,000 right now! It’s a steal!!

    • @jimmyjimmy951
      @jimmyjimmy951 Год назад +1

      @@justinbishopmusic Bugger, if I didn’t already have one I would have considered a trade for my future collectable Apple Watch…👍🇦🇺

    • @mwrable
      @mwrable Год назад

      I doubt that very much. YMMV

    • @mattrogers1946
      @mattrogers1946 Год назад

      Somehow, I doubt that...

  • @jazztitch8286
    @jazztitch8286 9 месяцев назад +1

    No jazz players on the Tele? Well, Ed Bickert, Mike Stern (although Stern had a humbucker fitted). And let's count Danny Gatton.

  • @seanmyers6961
    @seanmyers6961 Год назад

    I just learned this Friday at the Redlands guitar shop

  • @J0nny61
    @J0nny61 9 месяцев назад

    The difference in sound is very subtle. The guitarist shines through.

  • @iancurrie8844
    @iancurrie8844 7 месяцев назад

    What you're experiencing for weight is the difference in how wood is harvested now vs then. The kind of farmed wood we use now is grown quickly and is very dense and consistent. Wood at the time grew naturally, more slowly as conditions permitted. It was less dense and therefore lighter.

    • @justinbishopmusic
      @justinbishopmusic  7 месяцев назад

      After playing more gigs this past year, I definitely appreciate the lighter stuff! I traded the Squier in for something lighter!

  • @jesseregenauer630
    @jesseregenauer630 Год назад

    Nice video dude!

  • @user-qn6dn1ht4j
    @user-qn6dn1ht4j 2 месяца назад

    I have cv esquier, bridge pickup only,

  • @johnphillips8064
    @johnphillips8064 Год назад

    The great jazz guitarist Ed Bickert used a 65 tele. Changed the pickups to humbuckers in 79

  • @jbc291
    @jbc291 Год назад

    I loved the fact that he played Autumn Leaves on it :)

  • @franciscolopez3229
    @franciscolopez3229 Год назад

    May I ask what variant of Telecaster that Stephen Stills was using in the early days of CSN having only one pickup, "bridge pickup" only? I've seen it in some videos him playing it live concerts.

  • @ParaBellum2024
    @ParaBellum2024 Год назад

    No one's mentioned Scotty Anderson in the comments yet, so I will. Scotty Anderson. Tele jazz player: ruclips.net/video/Wte3OGQOfkg/видео.html. I thought the Nocaster and Squier sounded totally different from each other. Not really; they sound identical. Where they may differ is in their longevity. I would expect the Squier to need refretting and general repairs and spares much sooner than the Fender, due to it being built down to a price.

  • @mrjasondylan
    @mrjasondylan Год назад +1

    The esquire came out in 48 before the broadcaster.

  • @deqwannash2345
    @deqwannash2345 Год назад

    Smooth, spiffy, clean and shine

  • @knotguilty4623
    @knotguilty4623 Год назад +1

    Mud circuit! Love it!

  • @Hexspa
    @Hexspa 4 месяца назад

    Without looking and without knowing, from this video I can't tell.

  • @Case_
    @Case_ Год назад

    It could use a bit of reverb for the sound demo I think ;)

  • @bukwok
    @bukwok Год назад +2

    not really which better, sound wise slightly different , but different means different, not better or worse, the mainly different is the feel in hand i guess .

  • @KRAZEEIZATION
    @KRAZEEIZATION Год назад

    It’s funny when guys say “I bought a Squier Strat and it sounds like a Strat”! It is a Strat! Same design. Obviously it has cheaper manufacturing and parts but it’s still the same design! Same goes for Teles! A Tele sounds like a Tele! No point comparing a vintage instrument with a modern as the vintage has an expensive tone and the modern has a budget tone!😂😅😅 crazy but I prefer the Squier here! Sounds clearer! I don’t really like thin necks on Fender though.

  • @robinbesselink7111
    @robinbesselink7111 Год назад +1

    they were of course manufacturing lap steels for a couple of years before the broadcaster

  • @darlacurrey-colter3844
    @darlacurrey-colter3844 Год назад

    i know that leo hung out with bakersfield country or”hillbilly bands late 40s early 50s. his “plank” became very popular with them.

  • @harrytuttle8161
    @harrytuttle8161 Год назад

    I got a 2005 Squier 51" Vintage Modified , paid $99.00 new from MF . Great guitar design .

  • @paulcarter5117
    @paulcarter5117 6 месяцев назад

    I know this is a video on Telecasters but I can say this, I have a Squire Classic Vibe 50s Stratocaster and an American Professional ii Stratocaster tone wise, I prefer the Classic Vibe over the American Professional. Playability wise, I prefer the American Professional over the Classic Vibe. To remedy that problem, I bought a set of the Classic Vibe pickups and put them in the American Pro. Sounds absolutely fantastic.

  • @paulbraun8644
    @paulbraun8644 4 месяца назад

    As those who know have stated, use pedals, your guitar sounds like the pedal. In addition, use your tone and volume controls, might wake up your sense of tone.

    • @justinbishopmusic
      @justinbishopmusic  4 месяца назад

      All I had was a plugin for recording at the time. Would be fun to do it again with my AC15, but don’t get the chance very often.

  • @travishernandez2193
    @travishernandez2193 Год назад +1

    What amp and settings sound so good

    • @justinbishopmusic
      @justinbishopmusic  Год назад

      Thanks! It’s actually a “plugin” on my computer. No real amp involved. Check out Neural DSP Tone King Imperial. This has a small amount of stereo delay and reverb.

  • @TropicalLatitude
    @TropicalLatitude 11 месяцев назад +1

    You can see why a lot of pros tour with squires. There's darn little difference at a typical gig.

  • @astewart9410
    @astewart9410 Год назад +2

    My MIC CV 50s Tele sounds great to me!

    • @justinbishopmusic
      @justinbishopmusic  Год назад +2

      Yeah, I’ll stick with my Indonesian one and not have to take out a second mortgage!

    • @astewart9410
      @astewart9410 Год назад

      @@justinbishopmusic Exactly! How do you like the Indo CV? I haven't played one yet to compare to my China version from a few years ago. Still great?

  • @freshante4903
    @freshante4903 Год назад +4

    I strongly dislike sound comparisons with effects like the tons of reverb and/or room echo going on.

    • @justinbishopmusic
      @justinbishopmusic  Год назад +1

      I used Ross Campbell’s “SRVTweed” setting on Neural DSP Tone King Imperial. I will try to remix a short video with a dry signal.

    • @justinbishopmusic
      @justinbishopmusic  Год назад

      I was using a plugin (not a real amp), so here is a dry signal through the plugin with no effects and volume, bass, treble at 12 o'clock: ruclips.net/video/oVgzf2_T-_c/видео.html

  • @503punxoioioi9
    @503punxoioioi9 Год назад +2

    Fender marginally better. With different pickups, wiring, finish on Squier it may be even closer to sounding the same. Squier is fine though and totally a very nice guitar. I've had Fender and Squiers, both are good. It really comes down to components and how well the guitar is put together and what you like personally.

  • @perudolux
    @perudolux Год назад +1

    Great video 👍 this is why I am done with vintage guitars. I just don’t see the value in them. I much prefer luthier/ custom made guitars for me. Fun fact, I almost bought a 66 tele last week but backed off…because it wasn’t any special…just old and expensive

  • @deqwannash2345
    @deqwannash2345 Год назад +1

    Telecaster my favorite

    • @justinbishopmusic
      @justinbishopmusic  Год назад

      My first Fender was a MIM Telecaster…It was the best! But then the guy who sold it to me bought it back for sentimental reasons. I’m such a softee! But I’m happy with this Classic Vibe for sure.

  • @fearnpol4938
    @fearnpol4938 Год назад +2

    First was the Esquire

    • @justinbishopmusic
      @justinbishopmusic  Год назад +1

      Right. Here's some info I found. 1950 - During the spring of this year, the Fender Electric Instruments Company introduced a single and dual pickup solid body electric guitar. It was named the Esquire, about 50 were made, and were not fitted with a truss rod. Orders were being placed, though before production started, the instrument had been modified with an adjustable neck and renamed the Broadcaster. It was renamed again a year later to the Telecaster. The rename was done due to a conflict with Gretch Broadkaster drums.

  • @KeithSouthwest
    @KeithSouthwest Год назад

    We're these guitars even played through an amp or just a modeler?

    • @justinbishopmusic
      @justinbishopmusic  Год назад

      No amp. I used a plug-in called Neural DSP Tone King Imperial and recorded straight to the computer with an audio interface.

  • @jeremyhickerson3235
    @jeremyhickerson3235 Год назад +1

    I'm thinking you could hear the differences even better with a real clean sound, say Fender Deluxe Reverb.

  • @garyp5522
    @garyp5522 Год назад +3

    It is too bad but fender can not make a decent neck anymore. They are hard to play because the neck is too small. That is only my opinion.

    • @justinbishopmusic
      @justinbishopmusic  Год назад +1

      I’m happier with the necks on the AmAproII…they’re slightly thicker that this Squier. But yeah, you’re right. They vintage one I played in this video just felt “right.” And I don’t really understand why they don’t make them this way more often. I wonder if it’s more difficult to produce?

    • @garyp5522
      @garyp5522 Год назад

      @@justinbishopmusic I am a pretty new player but I have been really liking the feel of the Gibson and Epiphone necks.

    • @jimbonacum8917
      @jimbonacum8917 Год назад

      I think the biggest difference in the vintage necks vs. modern ones has more to do with the fingerboard radius than anything else. The radius on older Fenders is 7.25" but on the newer ones it is 9.5. If you are not familiar with what that means it refers to the curvature of the fingerboard. A higher number means the fingerboard is flatter while a lower number means that it has more of an arch to it. You can really feel the difference if you can play a Gibson guitar and then switch to a Fender from any year. The radius on a Gibson is 12" and they feel very flat compared to the Fender necks. Supposedly metal type "shredders" prefer flatter fingerboards because fingerboards that have curvature causes notes to "choke out" when you bend the strings. I don't buy that though. After all Jimi Hendrix mainly played strats with 7.25" fingerboards and it didn't seem to prevent him from bending his strings! Of course there are other differences in the width of the fingerboard, and the neck itself, as well as the profile. And how a neck feels is largely a matter of personal preference. My favorite neck is a Fender maple neck with a 7.25" radius but others will inevitably disagree. So I hope that someday you find one that suits your preference.

    • @garyp5522
      @garyp5522 Год назад

      I have guitars with 9.5 degree and 12 degree radius and really can not feel much of it any difference. I never have played a older fender with a 7.25 degree radius.

    • @jimbonacum8917
      @jimbonacum8917 Год назад

      @@garyp5522 I think they still offer them on some of the 50's and 60's reissues. I hope you get a chance to try one someday. Back in the '70's that seemed to be the bone of contention between the Fender and Gibson partisans. The contrast between the 7.25" of Fender and the 12" of Gibson plus the different neck widths really felt different. I have owned both types and I only wish I could win the lottery. if I did I'd head out to Norm's and clean him out! But if I could only have one I would stick with my '73 Tele with the maple neck. It might not be the best guitar in the world but it is mine and we bonded almost 50 years ago. I'm sure every guitar player knows what I mean.

  • @Wooburnmusic
    @Wooburnmusic Год назад +1

    Don't kidd yourselves, the no caster is the one, if you are a working guitarist then go for something of quality.

  • @johnrichardson1867
    @johnrichardson1867 Год назад +3

    Less Reverb would be better. I really was surprised at how close they sounded to each other.

    • @justinbishopmusic
      @justinbishopmusic  Год назад

      What can I say? I’m a sucker for that reverb. But yeah, they were much closer than I thought they would be!

    • @justinbishopmusic
      @justinbishopmusic  Год назад

      I was using a plugin (not a real amp), so here is a dry signal through the plugin with no effects and volume, bass, treble at 12 o'clock: ruclips.net/video/oVgzf2_T-_c/видео.html

  • @KillerKev1961
    @KillerKev1961 3 месяца назад

    IDGAS, they both sound great, but for under $450, the Squier is legit! BIGTIME!

  • @lordbenjenstark3792
    @lordbenjenstark3792 Год назад

    What kind of amp are you using?

    • @justinbishopmusic
      @justinbishopmusic  Год назад

      No amp. I used a plug-in called Neural DSP Tone King Imperial and recorded straight to the computer with an audio interface.

  • @juanmaledesma5823
    @juanmaledesma5823 Год назад

    Theres a difference, but you wouldnt notice if you arent a guitarist and being playing for some time. It more evident when listening chords. The Squier is really really close to the Nocaster sound, and a relative cheap guitar. Bravo

  • @favoriteblueshirt
    @favoriteblueshirt Год назад

    Yes.

  • @jeremyhickerson3235
    @jeremyhickerson3235 Год назад

    Ed Bickert was a famous Telecaster jazz player in the 60's and onward. But that "mud" (or tonesucking) position is useless, way too bassy for anything. Ed used the neck pickup (not the mud position)

  • @mrbesserwisser7447
    @mrbesserwisser7447 Год назад +1

    The old Tele has more resonance, but so will the Squier, if you play it long enough

  • @joepasco1420
    @joepasco1420 Год назад +1

    Way to much value placed on nostalgia. A new guitar sounds just as good in the hands of a good player.

  • @leamanc
    @leamanc Год назад

    Proof that tone is in the hands! Of course the Nocaster is a special thing to play but the Squier still sounds great. I think V necks got a bad reputation somewhere along the line. But yes, a soft V or medium V are extremely comfortable to play!

  • @nonamejones2321
    @nonamejones2321 Год назад

    I put a $300 Fat U neck on mine, and goddamn, it sounds fatter and is much funner to play. Worth the $ I spent.

    • @nonamejones2321
      @nonamejones2321 Год назад

      This is the same guy, I sold it stupidly and lost $300 for that neck. Dumb dumb dumb.

  • @wahivalleys3011
    @wahivalleys3011 10 месяцев назад +1

    Play them one AFTER the other without stalling and talking. Wahi' Valleys

  • @brianice9846
    @brianice9846 4 месяца назад

    Mike Stern played a Tele

  • @Robowx
    @Robowx Год назад

    Famous jazz players using a Telecaster is Mike Stern, Ed Bickart, Ted Greene.

  • @Hammerman48
    @Hammerman48 Год назад

    Using your setup they sound close……I agree a dry test would have been better.

    • @justinbishopmusic
      @justinbishopmusic  Год назад +1

      I was using a plugin (not a real amp), so here is a dry signal through the plugin with no effects and volume, bass, treble at 12 o'clock: ruclips.net/video/oVgzf2_T-_c/видео.html

    • @Hammerman48
      @Hammerman48 Год назад

      @@justinbishopmusic Thanks!

  • @okbouncer24
    @okbouncer24 Год назад

    It's all in your head! People seem to think just because it is vintage that it has to be better. That is all crap! I have a MIM 2006 Telecaster and a 54 2012 reissue American Fender tele and my MIM is in my opinion a better guitar. From a practical point of view the Squier is the best bang for the buck. If you are a Closet player there is no reason in spending a Mortgage payment on another Guitar that is just as good as a cheaper version. Most people would never know the difference anyways. It's all hype and in your head. Priorities people! I would rather buy 10 Squier guitars then buy one outrageously over priced vintage guitar all day.

  • @leethebee1560
    @leethebee1560 Год назад

    Ted Green famous jazz tele player.

  • @dezionlion
    @dezionlion Год назад

    Dark tone for playing bass

  • @vintagebikes4215
    @vintagebikes4215 Год назад

    Tone of nocaster is primo...modern Teles like this one are too warm in tone, lacking the Tele bite. I had a Squire Vintage Vibe 50's...never liked it. 7 frets pulling up on sides and bad cap. Have a Donner Tele now. It's a better guitar than the Squire and cost $100 on WalMart website, with closer to Vintage Tele tone. Customized the Donner heavily, working neck...sanded and steel wool to neck, polished fretboard to ebony feel. And smoothed edges of neck, along with very precise setup and intonation. Left all original Donner hardware. Fender Squires are hit and miss with warm piss tone. Be gone.
    I do have a custom Jimmie Vaughan Fender Strat and the soft V neck is great, great tone also. Not a Squire fan. Played many, disappointed in all.