Frightened Rabbit - The Quay Sessions 2016 ft Rogue Orchestra - Full Set

Поделиться
HTML-код
  • Опубликовано: 26 дек 2024

Комментарии • 205

  • @lukecrossland4217
    @lukecrossland4217 2 года назад +112

    4 yrs on and I’m not sure how many times I’ve watched this. Still brings tears to my eyes every time. Such a talented man and sorely missed. I remember exactly where I was when I read his last tweet. I hope Scott has found peace wherever his soul has ended up.

    • @shaunpauldoherty886
      @shaunpauldoherty886 2 года назад +1

      Same. 😭

    • @CaliKC2
      @CaliKC2 2 года назад +4

      The tears just don't stop. The impact is noted Scott, and I'll forever cherish your words.

    • @jessicad2999
      @jessicad2999 2 года назад +5

      This is the first time in all these years I have allowed myself to listen to this band, the loss of Scott was so profound for me.

    • @JJ-fp6ro
      @JJ-fp6ro Год назад +2

      I just love him. May he rest in peace. His music speaks to the soul, what a beautiful spirit.

    • @MARVANDAM
      @MARVANDAM Год назад +1

      ​@@CaliKC2 Yes, same. We lost another one of my fave artists Gord Downie of the Tragically Hip a year prior. Devastating for me

  • @paulberryman81
    @paulberryman81 4 года назад +263

    ‘I didn’t need these things, I didn’t need them all’....But we needed you mate. More than you’ll ever know.

    • @Jerrythejerboa
      @Jerrythejerboa 3 года назад +6

      That’s a bit too much for me rn. Perfectly said mate.

    • @kjmurphy2
      @kjmurphy2 3 года назад +1

      @@Jerrythejerboa ll

    • @pythonprogrammer7354
      @pythonprogrammer7354 3 года назад +2

      So true m8. We miss you Scott.

    • @pythonprogrammer7354
      @pythonprogrammer7354 3 года назад +2

      In another FR YTvideo T in the Park 2016. A fan yells out " Love you Scott". I'm sure he heard it. We miss you lad. It was ar the 1:01:30 mark.

    • @hisinddjsomnsl
      @hisinddjsomnsl Год назад +2

      I've been listening to his songs and I didn't even know he died. I just learnt it a few weeks ago on youtube when I look at the comments. He helped me and I'm sure a lot of other people too but in the end, he's the one who needed help too. I'm not sure how to feel about his death. I'm still in denial.

  • @martinmackenzie7614
    @martinmackenzie7614 Год назад +20

    Without question my favourite band ever, no one comes close, gem after gem.
    Forever indebted to my brother for introducing me to them, so glad we had the the opportunity and pleasure of meeting Scott, his music will stay with me for life.
    Rest easy Scott

  • @David-wo9ig
    @David-wo9ig Год назад +18

    Just sent the song, wish I was sober to my sister, wish she was, my heart is breaking because of her illness, but I understand it, hard childhood we had, but I know we will get there x

    • @jakek385
      @jakek385 11 месяцев назад +3

      It's gonna be alright, pal.

    • @TheCallenyoung
      @TheCallenyoung 7 месяцев назад

      It’ll be okay love. You will both get there sure enough

  • @woodworkingphoto8083
    @woodworkingphoto8083 Год назад +26

    Everytime I watch a video of Scott I'm gonna comment on it to remind anyone who knew him just how much of an influence he had on people who he'd never met. He knew you and you were so blessed by that. What a difference and joy he made to so many.

  • @alanmorales7959
    @alanmorales7959 5 лет назад +222

    I've been avoiding listening to Frightened Rabbits for a long time...I've been listening to a lot of them again as of late. It still pains me to think about Scott and when I hear him sing with the band...just, man, I miss him a lot.
    Now I'm tearing up in the middle of a work day in the office.
    His music still has so much impact and will continue to live on.
    Love you Scott.

    • @untitled8band
      @untitled8band 5 лет назад +4

      I'm there with you, Alan.

    • @georgemcfadyen7129
      @georgemcfadyen7129 5 лет назад +6

      Took me ages to come round to listening to them again, I am currently sitting avoiding work in a cafe watching old FR videos and reading all the comments. So dont feel bad about greeting at work thinking about Scott because I do it on the daily.

    • @Kered-9
      @Kered-9 5 лет назад +8

      Well said, I feel the same. I never met the man, I never saw the band live, but when I listen to them and think about what happened, it just hurts. That alone just shows the power of the music and his lyrics.

    • @Jops00
      @Jops00 5 лет назад +5

      Alan Morales I’m with you dude, I always feel so sad when I hear his voice and think about how he must have felt, but his music always reminds me of when I struggled and it pulled me and a friend though. So special, it somehow uplifts me and makes me feel sad at the same time now

    • @stoatyboy
      @stoatyboy 5 лет назад +4

      All our hearts broke that day my friend.

  • @charliemccfc
    @charliemccfc 4 года назад +57

    Any time I hit a bad patch with my mental health I listen/watch frightened rabbit, it has helped me through alot of bad spells in my life recently from break ups, being sacked and being unemployed, low and skint. Just something about Scott and the band that hits me and lets me let alot of stuff go and try move forward. RIP Scott , a hero, a talent gone far too soon

    • @88_mph
      @88_mph 2 года назад +1

      Couldn't agree more. Hope you're in a good place right now

    • @rschadjr
      @rschadjr Год назад +1

      This comment hit home. How are you doing now?

  • @JensonLarry
    @JensonLarry 6 лет назад +60

    "Get together now, find hope. There is life beyond the one we already know."

  • @rcollinsf1
    @rcollinsf1 Год назад +18

    I keep coming back to this live session, it's just beautiful. Scott's music was clearly his outlet to pour his feeling's into. I've struggled with depression for a long time and for me, listening to Frightened Rabbit is like talking to a friend who knows exactly how you're feeling, it just props me up in a way that no other band manages to. I don't think Scott could possibly know how many people he's helped get through rough times.

  • @BRO_v1
    @BRO_v1 5 лет назад +71

    I don’t know how to say it exactly but even in the eternal sadness of Scott having moved on it warms my heart to read the comments of other folks that loved, respected, and still cherish Scott and the music he gave us. I am forever grateful for the music and what it’ll always mean to me.

    • @karenhuff9925
      @karenhuff9925 4 года назад +4

      Wonderfully said!!!! I am literally just finding their music and my life is already forever changed. RIP to a freaking musical genius!!!!!

  • @agnesinwonderland
    @agnesinwonderland Год назад +13

    It's gut wrenching to watch. It's so beautiful but so tragic. I have tears in my eyes and mourn Scott's loss but also my own older brother's.
    My brother Archie was also a musician, he was very creative and smart.. there were many parallels with Scott.
    My older brother also took me to my first Frightened Rabbit concert.
    It hurts.
    We lose so many amazing people to mental illness. And as a person who deals with it too, I wish we could do more.
    Much love to all you. ❤

  • @edwise4543
    @edwise4543 4 года назад +25

    This version of Death Dream is beyond beautiful. The poetry and music of Scott Hutchison always makes me feel less alone in the universe. God rest his soul.

  • @Vivienne2614
    @Vivienne2614 6 месяцев назад +5

    I suffer with mental health problems too...depression is such a cruel illness, I wouldn't wish it on anyone. Rest in Peace Scott ❤💔❤

  • @mikebrooks6004
    @mikebrooks6004 4 месяца назад +3

    Sometimes i get so depressed and frabbit is what i always turn to. Scott was an awesome writer and sang about about manic depression better than anyone ive ever heard. He helped me through the death of my best friend. The music world lost a great and i hope more people in need of help come across this music. I wish he had someone to do the same for him but his music made me feel like at least one person knew what i was going through.

    • @karenfisher589
      @karenfisher589 3 месяца назад

      I hope you’re doing OK. I always turn to frabbit when I need to remind myself that I am not alone in my issues with mental health and alcoholism.

  • @beautyinbutteamerica1776
    @beautyinbutteamerica1776 6 лет назад +77

    Beauty beyond words, What an awful place this world can be. To be so loved and never have known it, at least not enough to make this place worth the pain it takes to endure.
    When we speak of love, let's all be sure we're acting it out as best we can. Scott said it, let's live it, in his honor.
    It seems to be that true care is the only remedy for the sickness of this wayward world.

    • @RMachine12321
      @RMachine12321 6 лет назад +5

      What a beautiful comment

    • @stevenr21
      @stevenr21 6 лет назад +2

      Yes he was loved by many, just not himself.

    • @ciaronm.7694
      @ciaronm.7694 6 лет назад +1

      ❤️

    • @tomnankivell7008
      @tomnankivell7008 5 лет назад

      W

    • @beaux7130
      @beaux7130 5 лет назад +1

      BIBA, I Jope You are all good with me reposting. i will include Your initials as above. You captured what i have felt inside. Thank You
      All Peace All Love

  • @CalumMackinnon
    @CalumMackinnon 6 лет назад +228

    _Watching this incredible set straight through gives the full effect, but if you need a point of reference..._
    0:46 *Get* *Out*
    4:02 *I* *Wish* *I* *Was* *Sober*
    7:36 *The* *Modern* *Leper*
    11:42 *Backyard* *Skulls*
    15:03 *Things*
    19:26 *Death* *Dream*
    23:35 *Lump* *Street*

  • @nicholasristic1868
    @nicholasristic1868 4 года назад +9

    Lucky enough to have seen Frightened Rabbit about 7 times over the years, every single time it was hair raising. Nothing but emotion. 💜

  • @Mountainman2468
    @Mountainman2468 2 года назад +9

    Never met the guy . I didn’t pay any attention until after he passed. What a talent. I wish I could just nail it with an inspired comment. I can’t. Just so sad. I sincerely hope you’re at peace pal.

  • @steveym90
    @steveym90 6 лет назад +60

    Well isn't this just absolutely beautiful, start to finish.

  • @gerrymcbride1202
    @gerrymcbride1202 2 года назад +9

    Its as if he just opened up n his feelings poured out into his songs, everyone touches the soul. Rest easy Scott💚🙏

  • @Jezzzza
    @Jezzzza 4 года назад +7

    Jesus, watch anytime you need a good weep. Scott will always be the greatest, will be missed forever...

  • @CatLoverx900
    @CatLoverx900 Год назад +2

    Frightened Rabbit played in Denver in the last year or so leading up to Scott’s tragic passing. I didn’t go, because my ex gf and I had recently broke up and we loved the band so I was sure she’d be there. I’ve never regretted not going to a show more in my life.

  • @docktora
    @docktora Год назад +8

    If this doesn't move you you're not human.

  • @macaroniprince
    @macaroniprince 3 года назад +5

    I remember sitting at my office cubicle on a saturday mornign watching this with tears streaming down my face, and my boss came in to make a sarcastic comment as he wasn't a fan of them at all. It was at the "you died in my sleep last night part" and he just put his hand on my shoulder and said "nice song mate". I know he didn't really like it, but that small moment is just a microcosm of why we love Frightened Rabbit. Life is shit and sad a lot of them, but in those moments we are all united, a universal human experience, sadness, and yet there's something so comforting about knowing we all understand.

  • @disconsolator
    @disconsolator 5 лет назад +7

    Ughhhhh. This is the best. You can tell how much he cares, his voice is on point the whole time.

  • @ScottishAirsoft
    @ScottishAirsoft 5 лет назад +15

    I’m reading the comments about Scott! I only met him once, when he was playing an intimate gig in Glasgow, but always felt his music brought everyone close to him. I’ve felt the loneliness in life after loss, but can’t imagine what he was feeling on that bridge. Wish someone was there to talk to him.

  • @locrian8557
    @locrian8557 6 лет назад +58

    I'm glad people are continuing to post new videos of Scott and FR. This really is beautiful.

  • @charlottecomfort2446
    @charlottecomfort2446 7 дней назад

    I love this, all the little multiple smiles from the string section when it gets too lovely 💕

  • @judydeangelis3240
    @judydeangelis3240 5 лет назад +12

    Haunting and beautiful. I get chills, and a tear or 100. Death dreams is his story.
    You see the pain, true deep pain.
    I hope you found peace.

  • @updownleftrightish
    @updownleftrightish 3 года назад +8

    I wish he was in less pain, wish he was still here, his words were always beautiful. When the good die young it sits like a knot on the gut, a hole in the heart. My favourite FR song changes by mood as it does with album but nothing beats seeing him live.

  • @gouchington
    @gouchington 5 лет назад +17

    I hope he's found they peace that eluded him in this life. What a brave soul for giving all he could and leaving us with an incredibly deep catalog of music. ✌🏻🖤

  • @eddydalziel3387
    @eddydalziel3387 5 лет назад +21

    outstanding!. I think I've watched everything on RUclips about Scott and I can't get enough. Such a tremendous loss, If he only knew how much this has impacted everyone. Incredible human being. Fly high Scott

  • @Qualiareedauthor
    @Qualiareedauthor 5 лет назад +12

    It's still difficult for me to hear Scott, knowing he's gone. I am forever sad that his voice and music helped me find whatever I needed to stay on this planet, and I couldn't do anything to help him find that thing as well. I'll always sing his songs as a way of keeping a piece of him with us.

  • @bbop3557
    @bbop3557 5 лет назад +15

    Scott hutchison ya magnificent bastard......💙❤💙❤

  • @kevine7414
    @kevine7414 6 лет назад +24

    Great session, still can't believe Scott has gone :(

  • @Zacharias618
    @Zacharias618 6 лет назад +63

    Acoustic version of 'Things' is beyond magical.

    • @paulberryman81
      @paulberryman81 6 лет назад +4

      agree 100%

    • @smarshington
      @smarshington 6 лет назад +2

      This guy knows.

    • @tommulvey3355
      @tommulvey3355 6 лет назад +2

      WOMD was my entry point into FR. Things is still my favorite song. It is brilliant.

    • @keithcrow2918
      @keithcrow2918 5 лет назад +1

      Always has been my favorite. You're still missed tremendously Scott. Thank you for your contribution to humanity.

    • @davidlister6721
      @davidlister6721 4 года назад +3

      One of Scott’s own faves...magic

  • @Freiheit1232
    @Freiheit1232 5 лет назад +13

    Wow 'Things' sounds lovely here.. & 'Death Dream' I could just break down crying when I hear it

  • @johns8509
    @johns8509 4 года назад +5

    This is amazing. Start to finish. Special mention to Things. What a song. Dont listen to anyone but FR these days. RIP Scott.

  • @jameskitson2982
    @jameskitson2982 5 лет назад +6

    One day from a year and your still missed as much now as ever. Absolutely heartbreaking to watch now

  • @coldandblank
    @coldandblank 4 года назад +4

    I love you Scott. You are missed and loved so much

  • @grahambethell978
    @grahambethell978 4 года назад +2

    My favourite band since my friend said, hay listen to this it’s a band you’d like. 11 years ago so glad I got the chance several times to see them live!

  • @richardbrooke3568
    @richardbrooke3568 3 года назад +3

    Keep coming back to this video - amazing vocals and incredible songwriting - to me as a writer Scott was out there in a league of his own. In a world often devoid of real substance this is pure gold. What a band, what a legend 😢

  • @JethrineBodine
    @JethrineBodine 2 года назад +3

    This continues to be a gorgeous work of art.

  • @skybluesam01
    @skybluesam01 6 лет назад +15

    Something about 10:22 is the most hauntingly beautiful and desperate sound I have ever heard

  • @mryuk31
    @mryuk31 5 лет назад +4

    if only he knew how much he was loved,appreciated and needed.im half a world away and his death left me with a profound sadness that still rears its head when i hear his voice.i can only imagine the pain his family and friends felt. cheers scott

  • @sixmonthssleep3057
    @sixmonthssleep3057 5 лет назад +11

    It's cool to hear 'Things' acoustically, Scott said that was his favourite Frightened Rabbit song. Nice recording of it.

  • @iangrubb6470
    @iangrubb6470 6 лет назад +3

    Had the pleasure of seeing them at Electric Fields in 2017. Fell in love with their music. Scott was taken from us far too soon. R.I.P Scott.

  • @mattphilbrick9751
    @mattphilbrick9751 3 года назад +2

    i just miss this man and this band so much

  • @alicat1018
    @alicat1018 6 лет назад +16

    Thank you SO much for uploading this! I’ve been trying to access a recording of this session for a while. The whole session is wonderful, but this performance of “The Modern Leper” gave me chills.

  • @elliothetherton8326
    @elliothetherton8326 6 лет назад +20

    missing Scott a lot today, as I have been pretty much every day these last few months

    • @heffeff
      @heffeff 6 лет назад +1

      elliot hetherton So right.

  • @webcomradio5641
    @webcomradio5641 2 года назад +1

    Tiny Changes WOW what a tribute to the man himself. I bought it and love every single track.

  • @SM-ee8be
    @SM-ee8be 3 года назад +7

    Its funny how he says thank you to the audience after every single song. We should have been thanking you. Hope you found that peace beneath the roar mate 💙

  • @mikeovation7134
    @mikeovation7134 6 лет назад +20

    Thank you so much for posting this. We can't access the BBC player here in the states. I've been looking for this for a while.

  • @Hevalicious
    @Hevalicious 8 месяцев назад

    Always come back to this when I’m needing a good cry

  • @jacquelinebarr959
    @jacquelinebarr959 3 года назад

    I haven’t listened to this performance in a while and I feel like I am grieving. Still.

  • @SM-ee8be
    @SM-ee8be 3 года назад +4

    This version of get out literally had me in tears by the first chorus

  • @josephmccafferty199
    @josephmccafferty199 2 года назад

    Thank U for this. Raddled and we move on and remember and never forget, and LIVE!

  • @christofferthormannjensen3371
    @christofferthormannjensen3371 3 года назад +3

    Man, what a session. Gorgeous versions of all the songs.

  • @ciaronm.7694
    @ciaronm.7694 6 лет назад +10

    I wish I could contribute something meaningful, but I’m lost for words. Hope you found peace, big man x

  • @sunshaped
    @sunshaped 6 лет назад +2

    So much warmth and beauty packed into one human. :( :( :(

  • @herbertrichard614
    @herbertrichard614 2 года назад +1

    I like how the orchestra members are all dolled up, looking great. That honors the songs and yeah it is fun.

  • @MorganJ818
    @MorganJ818 2 года назад +1

    This is one of his best performances. You can feel his confidence and see him happy in the music💫 🙏🏼

  • @petermcgee9667
    @petermcgee9667 6 лет назад +10

    This is magical. Things is just mesmerising!

  • @mhartain5848
    @mhartain5848 6 лет назад +6

    What an irreplaceable loss. So very sad.

  • @jamiejohnston7183
    @jamiejohnston7183 4 года назад +3

    What a beautiful man

  • @davidgervaise5263
    @davidgervaise5263 6 лет назад +11

    This is brilliant

  • @brianstubberfield2116
    @brianstubberfield2116 4 года назад +1

    Saw frightened rabbit at victorious southsea ...2017. Brilliant.

  • @craigsutherland9997
    @craigsutherland9997 6 лет назад +2

    Can't believe i've just seen this now. RIP Scott, what an absolute legend of a man, hope you're as happy now as i am listening to this

  • @tinyninja1111
    @tinyninja1111 4 года назад +3

    What a great wordsmith. Such a sad loss, RIP sir.

  • @CCBLUELIGHT
    @CCBLUELIGHT 4 года назад +1

    This is great. He truly was on a mission and had more on his plate to give to us listeners. Incredible lyricist. Thank you for this video.

  • @JT-pj3me
    @JT-pj3me Год назад +1

    Only wish is that I got to see him play live. One of my favorite artists.

  • @wowno5763
    @wowno5763 5 лет назад +11

    "This makes me feel like a proper fancy musician."
    Missing Scott's great sense of humor today.

  • @clairesmith6537
    @clairesmith6537 4 года назад

    I love the little smiles the orchestra give Scott, particularly the viola player

  • @kyleolsen6271
    @kyleolsen6271 6 лет назад +4

    "There is life beyond the one you already know." RIP.

  • @hullaballoo11
    @hullaballoo11 5 лет назад +2

    R.I.P Scott......sadly so many beautiful songs left unwritten

  • @MrDelboy1973
    @MrDelboy1973 3 года назад

    RIP son. You were a talent.
    Some of the most honest sincere songs I’ve ever heard

  • @davidlister6721
    @davidlister6721 4 года назад +3

    Frightened rabbit are like emotional marmite...so powerful I can just take a few tracks ..my Heart pains ....gutted

  • @Qualiareedauthor
    @Qualiareedauthor 5 лет назад +5

    They should really release a version of this. It's beautiful

  • @seanmichaelbeasley4694
    @seanmichaelbeasley4694 3 года назад +1

    When he screams, 'Holding me up' I just lose it. Thanks Frabbit for everything.

  • @jacquelinebarr959
    @jacquelinebarr959 3 года назад +1

    I’ve never heard anything more beautiful than this version of Things

    • @ash_bee_music
      @ash_bee_music 2 года назад +3

      I've only just discovered FR and Scott's work and 'Things' is the one that grabbed me and just shook me in a way I still don't understand.... where I realised this guy is channeling something from a fuckin' higher dimension or something. It's not a song, it's a goddamn portal to transcendence.

  • @curiousted2725
    @curiousted2725 2 года назад +1

    I still miss Scott. Rest In Peace mate.

  • @drewmack1709
    @drewmack1709 2 года назад +1

    Absolutely wonderful performance. Wish I could download this but will make do with looping on RUclips. RIP Scott.

  • @ProfessorChomsky
    @ProfessorChomsky 3 года назад +1

    Absolutely magnificent x

  • @ChrisR_68
    @ChrisR_68 6 лет назад +2

    I'll miss his voice so much, ive only been a fan a couple years or so when a friend told me about them, I listened to Pedestrian Hhyms and I loved it straight away, so sad 😢

  • @billborgerding8038
    @billborgerding8038 2 года назад +1

    Despite the pain this man was in, he always seemed to show us his sense of humor.
    Abraham Lincoln was a severely depressed man,but known for his joke
    telling and humorous anecdotes.
    I have been suffering from mental illness for most of my life. Yet a good joke, afunny story can still make laugh.
    Humor for some depressed individuals
    is like waving a fragrant flower past your
    face, For a few short moments , sadness lifts and joy sneaks in. It is a saving grace.
    Someday I will go to Selkirk Scotland.
    I heard there was a beach there dedicated to him. I'll tell him some funny stories, how much his music meant to me,and maybe leave rose or two for him.
    The sad mad ,whose music was transcendent, whose humor gave joy.

  • @solokiddoable
    @solokiddoable 3 года назад

    My heart always comes back to this 💛

  • @figvania4805
    @figvania4805 4 года назад +1

    Scott is a treasure to my soul...

  • @o0sgd0o
    @o0sgd0o 5 лет назад +1

    Thanks so much for posting this.

  • @ALuckyGrenade
    @ALuckyGrenade 6 лет назад +1

    This is an amazing tribute to him. His music will always live on.

  • @edsedina4333
    @edsedina4333 3 года назад +1

    RIP fellow Scottman. Miss Ya dearly.

  • @suziedarcy1447
    @suziedarcy1447 3 года назад +1

    Broke my heart.. 💔,still breaks my heart... This is no life..glad you didnt see it.... see you very very soon.. I'm on my way x

  • @amysteele6540
    @amysteele6540 3 года назад +7

    I thought people sounded stupid when they spoke of songs that “saved their life”... I learned what they meant when I found Midnight Organ Fight

  • @AnFithich
    @AnFithich 4 года назад +4

    I don't put my
    Thoughts or poetry
    Here
    But now it feels
    I owe you
    A tribute
    You've been
    Narrating my life
    So I could keep
    Living it
    You
    Taught me
    That you can sing
    The songs of mourning
    Before you leave
    And there can be
    Years
    Between
    The words
    You thought were the last of you
    And the end
    Thank you
    For
    Giving me back
    Songs to write to
    When
    I thought I was looking for
    A
    Lament
    When you
    Left
    There was a hole in the world
    The words you left
    Can't fill
    But
    They're keeping some of us
    Afloat

  • @mortuaryreport
    @mortuaryreport 5 месяцев назад

    oh scott. i sure do miss you and everything you brought to the world. thank you for being so kind to me when i met you.
    21:51

  • @ThatGirlAmanda2525
    @ThatGirlAmanda2525 3 года назад

    Such a beautiful soul and soo deeply missed

  • @DrB81
    @DrB81 2 года назад

    I remember playing Connect festival in 2008 with FR. It was very sad to hear about Scott. RIP.

  • @marshawnboogie477
    @marshawnboogie477 2 года назад +1

    I love you Scott.

  • @southphillybombers
    @southphillybombers 5 лет назад +1

    Thank you.

  • @scottmccutcheon946
    @scottmccutcheon946 2 года назад +3

    White Noise gets me every time

  • @bryantm6274
    @bryantm6274 3 года назад

    scott im sorry we failed you as people and as fans. i hope you found peace. frightened rabbit is forever.