It's so reassuring to know that even elite pro surfers have paddle fatigue every now and then. Being a weekend warrior myself I've found the only thing that even comes close to paddling is swimming with hand paddles and a pull buoy between the knees. I'll have a look out for that ski machine though. I consider myself to be pretty fit e.g. go to the gym, swim, mtb, walk about 5 miles a day with my dog, stretch etc. but after a couple of weeks not surfing paddling gases me out. I think you're right when you say it's not a natural position to be in which most likely restricts how much air you can get in your lungs.
There was a video a while back with Nate going out at a slab, and he goes in at the wrong spot at the wrong time, and he steady paddles hard for over 10 minutes, punching through overhead white water.......props to this man.....I can only imagine the amount of endurance this took.
I'm 55, haven't surfed in about 20 yrs, I have neck problems, my left shoulder is not the best, I have tinnitus from a bad wipeout, but man I was super fit when I surfed & there's no better feeling than being in the ocean
Everyone is different. I like to run and do a lot of cardio/body weight workouts cause my body recovers so fast. I never lift weights and I find that even after not surfing for a week or two my paddle fitness and endurance in the water are solid. Also agree, both my shoulders are sore at the most random times.
Nathan! Please post videos showing your training to specifically balance the body to counteract surfing for years and not in the gym enough. Lots of us don't know exactly what to do to balance our body. 22 years of paddling weekly, 1 shoulder labrum surgery which is healed and good. feeling great in the water but need to balance the body.
Surfing, and surf training, has helped me overcome a lifetime of spinal flexion. Working as a farrier, I've spent way too much time doubled over. Now, I've regained good posture, and feel 10 years younger. 61/5
Surfing only....equals injury. I was surfing every day last year and by October I somehow herniated the L4 or L5 disk. It freaking set me back so far in my ability to just do a pop-up. I had years of experience built-up only to be brought to the beginning. Luckily I didn't need surgery but I still struggle 6 months later. I stretch and do proper core strengthening and balance exercises, I hope to reach the level I was at and surpass that eventually. I appreciate you guys sharing your struggles as well, it's a lifelong love that I can't shake.
@@spencerflynn8072 officially about 7-8 weeks but various sessions humbled me but also encouraged me that I’m making progress. I feel like it’s realistic to take about 6-9 months to fully recover though if you strength train with balance, and core exercises properly. Physical Therapy and patience is key. I’m not fully back to where I want to be, my timing and snap of the front foot placement still feels awkward. I not about to give up by any means though. Hopefully that answers your question.
Yeah I experienced this,and found bodysurfing and bodyboarding between every few surfs to exercise different muscles and mix things up helped reduce injury. And also yoga and stretching and lifting a few weights at home.
I take out a funboard and paddle on straight water for 2 miles and then hit the pump track on my skateboard. If I want to get a little bit more of a workout I’ll take my shortest board out and paddle that 2 miles. Or until I can’t paddle.
you should probably have a look at Ross Edgley and his swim training videos as he does alot of in the gym exercises for swimming stroke that are interesting! SkiErg sounds like a brilliant one though :)
swimming if you cant paddle.......but has to be sprint swimming in my experience , not just grinding out distance, but doing as much sprint reps as possible 100% effort for at least 25m, over and over again till fully cooked. And push ups and core training and floor pop ups why not........as much as and as frequent as possible work out your own according to what u can handle, aim to increase etc . Try and get in real surf at least 4 times a month....this keeps me fit enough for 2 hr sessions,,,and two of these in one day in fact...and able to surf almost every day when do indo for a month....oh and cardio running or cycle
The ski erg is awesome. Take a bench and angle it towards the top of the erg (think like an incline bench), lay across and paddle. It not only works your shoulder but forces you to hold the “banana” position, and keep’s pressure on your ribs. Works great. One big downside, Looks Ridiculous!!!!!
I've found that no matter what you do in the gym, your upper body cardio is very hard to keep up unless you're suring. Swimming is probably better than the gym in that regard. I'm surprised they did not mention swimming.
True , 97 % of people that want to surf have to work . It lags that it take longer to learn how to surf . Or longer to realize that surfing is not for them . Let’s looks a bright side of this , it less people in the water doing the week , right ! 😂 Your surfing with locals and people that knows how to surf usually . You benefit from this , because your progressing . 😂
Bro, going to the gym isnt going to help with your paddling fitness. Off course its beneficial and will help you to some extent but all in all its probably the least beneficial way to stay surf fit because lifting weights exercises your slow twitch muscle fibers and the muscles you use to surf are fast twitch. Those muscle groups are best trained with lighter weights and high reps. But the best way to stay surf fit and i know this from personal experience, is to do a triathlon style workout program, where you swim, run and bike during the week. Im telling you, swimming, and if you do it properly will push your paddling, not only in strength but also the technique, to a whole new level. And swimming long distances weekly, really gets the shoulders and arms accustomed to be being under stres for a long time
It's so reassuring to know that even elite pro surfers have paddle fatigue every now and then. Being a weekend warrior myself I've found the only thing that even comes close to paddling is swimming with hand paddles and a pull buoy between the knees. I'll have a look out for that ski machine though. I consider myself to be pretty fit e.g. go to the gym, swim, mtb, walk about 5 miles a day with my dog, stretch etc. but after a couple of weeks not surfing paddling gases me out. I think you're right when you say it's not a natural position to be in which most likely restricts how much air you can get in your lungs.
There was a video a while back with Nate going out at a slab, and he goes in at the wrong spot at the wrong time, and he steady paddles hard for over 10 minutes, punching through overhead white water.......props to this man.....I can only imagine the amount of endurance this took.
I'm 55, haven't surfed in about 20 yrs, I have neck problems, my left shoulder is not the best, I have tinnitus from a bad wipeout, but man I was super fit when I surfed & there's no better feeling than being in the ocean
I dont know whose idea it was to do the shorts---but these are great!!
Everyone is different. I like to run and do a lot of cardio/body weight workouts cause my body recovers so fast. I never lift weights and I find that even after not surfing for a week or two my paddle fitness and endurance in the water are solid.
Also agree, both my shoulders are sore at the most random times.
Nathan! Please post videos showing your training to specifically balance the body to counteract surfing for years and not in the gym enough. Lots of us don't know exactly what to do to balance our body. 22 years of paddling weekly, 1 shoulder labrum surgery which is healed and good. feeling great in the water but need to balance the body.
Surfing, and surf training, has helped me overcome a lifetime of spinal flexion. Working as a farrier, I've spent way too much time doubled over. Now, I've regained good posture, and feel 10 years younger. 61/5
SkiErg is awesome! It also helped me recover from a broken collarbone. Great range of motion :)
With the shoulders, it is important to keep them balanced by doing it backwards as well. (Turn around).
Surfing only....equals injury. I was surfing every day last year and by October I somehow herniated the L4 or L5 disk. It freaking set me back so far in my ability to just do a pop-up. I had years of experience built-up only to be brought to the beginning. Luckily I didn't need surgery but I still struggle 6 months later. I stretch and do proper core strengthening and balance exercises, I hope to reach the level I was at and surpass that eventually. I appreciate you guys sharing your struggles as well, it's a lifelong love that I can't shake.
How long did it take u to get back into the water after injury?
@@spencerflynn8072 officially about 7-8 weeks but various sessions humbled me but also encouraged me that I’m making progress. I feel like it’s realistic to take about 6-9 months to fully recover though if you strength train with balance, and core exercises properly. Physical Therapy and patience is key. I’m not fully back to where I want to be, my timing and snap of the front foot placement still feels awkward. I not about to give up by any means though. Hopefully that answers your question.
Yeah I experienced this,and found bodysurfing and bodyboarding between every few surfs to exercise different muscles and mix things up helped reduce injury. And also yoga and stretching and lifting a few weights at home.
I take out a funboard and paddle on straight water for 2 miles and then hit the pump track on my skateboard. If I want to get a little bit more of a workout I’ll take my shortest board out and paddle that 2 miles. Or until I can’t paddle.
you should probably have a look at Ross Edgley and his swim training videos as he does alot of in the gym exercises for swimming stroke that are interesting! SkiErg sounds like a brilliant one though :)
swimming if you cant paddle.......but has to be sprint swimming in my experience , not just grinding out distance, but doing as much sprint reps as possible 100% effort for at least 25m, over and over again till fully cooked. And push ups and core training and floor pop ups why not........as much as and as frequent as possible work out your own according to what u can handle, aim to increase etc . Try and get in real surf at least 4 times a month....this keeps me fit enough for 2 hr sessions,,,and two of these in one day in fact...and able to surf almost every day when do indo for a month....oh and cardio running or cycle
Swimming helps ( being a swimmer ) there’s a few dry land exercise to do
The ski erg is awesome. Take a bench and angle it towards the top of the erg (think like an incline bench), lay across and paddle. It not only works your shoulder but forces you to hold the “banana” position, and keep’s pressure on your ribs. Works great. One big downside, Looks Ridiculous!!!!!
10 push-ups then pop up. Repeat.
And pull-ups and dead hanging.
…..Been helping me stay prepared for 2x a year surfing.
Bodyboarding is prob the best full body workout
I've found that no matter what you do in the gym, your upper body cardio is very hard to keep up unless you're suring. Swimming is probably better than the gym in that regard. I'm surprised they did not mention swimming.
I think there is a vasa paddle machine that is close to paddling
Yoga too!
Spend the cash on a vasa erg swim trainer. That and a ski erg machine. Gets you in the best surf shape, for sureee.
Everything in moderation
Swimming guys. That’s how I’d keep for for paddling
That’s why stand up paddle is superior 😅 avoids all that you talk about
True , 97 % of people that want to surf have to work .
It lags that it take longer to learn how to surf .
Or longer to realize that surfing is not for them .
Let’s looks a bright side of this , it less people in the water doing the week , right ! 😂
Your surfing with locals and people that knows how to surf usually .
You benefit from this , because your progressing . 😂
Bro, going to the gym isnt going to help with your paddling fitness. Off course its beneficial and will help you to some extent but all in all its probably the least beneficial way to stay surf fit because lifting weights exercises your slow twitch muscle fibers and the muscles you use to surf are fast twitch. Those muscle groups are best trained with lighter weights and high reps. But the best way to stay surf fit and i know this from personal experience, is to do a triathlon style workout program, where you swim, run and bike during the week. Im telling you, swimming, and if you do it properly will push your paddling, not only in strength but also the technique, to a whole new level. And swimming long distances weekly, really gets the shoulders and arms accustomed to be being under stres for a long time
I’d recommend being careful what you do in the gym. Bodybuilding and surfing don’t mix. CrossFit and/or strength training go well!
Surfing is bad for you don’t start!