I went cheap last year and used cost effective Chinese Nicot waste of money cups didn’t fit lids didn’t close over long cups ,waste of money went back to original French Nicot which most but not all Queens lay up. Nice and informative video 💪🏽👍🏼
I used the Nicot system twice last season an got around 50% take. I got lucky with using queens willing to lay to the point that after a little over 1 day I gad enough eggs that I was able to remove the queen an leave it until day 4. I’m going to try it again this year we’ll see how it goes. I really appreciate your video that includes the “worts”. That’s where insightful instructions comes from. Thank you!
Really interesting video. I think I’ll try both the Nicot and grafting method. Its great that you can see the value in Nicot system despite the frustration.
Thanks for the informative information in this system. I agree with you that you do not have as much control an you can not wait an wait for her to give you enough eggs of the same time period . Just how much or do you ever use a starter finisher . Also do you put your cells in your new colony or do you hatch out your queens. Thanks
Pretty much everything that you have said about the system I have experienced LOL. I prefer the Chinese grafting tools. Grafting is a little bit harder to get the hang of but gives you a lot more control in the end. Thanks for sharing my friend.
Feel like I might have made an error on my first attempt. My queen laid the entire 100 in 24 hrs, so I pulled just the eggs before they were fed. Haven't gotten clarity if they are supposed to be fed first or if an freshly laid egg is fine. I'll know in several days..
You will learn something !! You may get a queen or 2. Upside is You have a queen that lays like champ in the box !!💥 If I read this right, you put the cups with just eggs in the builder ? If they are absolutely queenless they may feed them and do fine! It will add 2 to 3 days on to the schedule though. So you may have capped cells in 6 to 7 days instead of 4 because they had to hatch ! You can carefully pull the frame in 5 days to see if they are feeding or if they got eaten back. Good luck 🍀🍀🐝🐝 PS your bees in your avatar are adorable 😍
Queen should bee in cage no more than 24h. If you keep queen 4 days,she lay eggs and bees clean it. After adding cells to builder you chek acceptance rate after 3 hours and add new larve wher is missing.put honey all over Nicot before polishing.
I get a good take grafting but its an acquired skill to pick up the larvae w/o scraping it on the cell. I tried different graft tools but the Chinese seems to work best for me. I made some nice queens a few weeks ago, waiting on eggs.
Thanks for the video. I have one more important question. If a queen can handle the nicot, can the nicot cartridge be used 2 or 3 times in a season, or is it only once per season per queen?
✌️ use it multiple times !! Just be sure to put the box in the queens hive prior to adding her to the cage so it smells like her hive and is cleaned by the bees 🐝🐝
I have 1 of these and did not really know what to do to use it. Thank u for doing this video after watching you trying to use it I have decided not to. Thank u for being honest about the system. Have a blessed day
I usually just graft into the nicot holders using wax cups so that I can use the hair rollers with them. I’m not a fan of having to catch the queen and wrangle her into the box, let alone the laying issues.
As a first year beekeeper - I’ve had a bad year at buying queens and there absconding because of wasps and weak hives am guessing - but on Tuesday i tried out Nicot system,placed a Queen in the Nicot frame and today day 3 or maybe some may say day 2 and half far too early because she laid ,but as laid in 109 cells some 3 eggs ,and some just one - but no royal jelly no pupa and no larva stage but I just can’t see anything while wearing the bee suit - I purchased a mini magnifier 60x beautiful little gadget but major mistakes today as a newbie I forgot to take it with me and the frames ,yellow cups part of the Nicot system - so basically I may a major boo boo and could do nothing about it as my bee yard is 1 hours drive - have you any suggestions for me ?? Btw am heading into autumn in the UK ,so to get the queens mated might of been an ask
We all make mistakes! Even now years in😬 Get a checklist of things you need to bring, a notebook with dates because of scheduling queens , and maybe give yourself a break😉 Maybe if you are doing queens leave a small kit at the apiary if possible since you are so far. If I got you right , the Q laid in 109 cell. WOW! I think, if you had the right equipment with you , I would have used what she gave you. Sometimes holding the cage/Nicot up to the sun you can see better the eggs/larva. I can't see and need glasses , or you could go with out the veil? I think you are right and your season is at a close, drones need to be plentiful for a good mating. Learn from this and make a good plan for Spring or next summer!
Does the cell cup still get accepted by the nurse bees if it has two eggs or a larvae and an egg in the same cell? I thought it might be rejected if it has two eggs . Ive never used my nicot system yet and dont know about it.
Yeah, Nicot always has those timing problems.. good for grafting. The Jenter cage has a bit different made cells and queens like it much better. Never had a problem with that one.. queen does it over night and you can let her out in the morning. With Nicot l had them moving eggs from the cage and put in the new comb on the outside one time. Strange.
@@buttsbeesllc4063 l have an old 80 cells one. Never had problems with it. I used it to try with eggs and very young larvas. The difference between them is that Jenter has wax in the cells and the transfer has 1 more step. Some queen breeders here use 4-5 of them to produce all their queens.. but grafting isn't worse. It's just preferences
I use the 'Natural' Method. Aka : Let the Bees make the Queens ! Tip : Choose Best Hive Queen and take a Frame of Brood in ALL Stages. Including Eggs ! BRUSH all Bees off Carefully. Don't shake them off as (Shaken Eggs are only good for Omelettes) not Queen Rearing. 🤭 Get your Hive tool and mash a under Dent just under say Eg x6 equally spaced apart Eggs in a linear Line. Can do a higher Row and a Lower Row but do have enough Space above, between and below so QCs can be hanging, harvested easily. [Dent more than the Queens you want !] So you can choose the best. Offer up Spare to Bee Pals or your Bee Club ! *This Frame must be added to a QUEENLESS Colony. Or into a high up Box of Bees, above a Queen Excluder. Bees around these Eggs must 'feel' Queenless to make QC's ! * Or at least Bees are to far away to pass up that lower Deep Box Queen"s Pheromone to those nurturing Nurse Queen Bees building those Queen Cells for you. 😉 If your using say a Frame off a Langstroth, dent Comb, 2" Space across right, dent another, 2" Space across etc. Why Dent you ask ? 👀 Well, by doing this under dent : 1) that Egg will be Drawn Down into a Queen Cell "with Plenty of Empty Area " about it, underneath it for that "Peanut: QC" to be made. (Its not placed or stuck tight to Wax or Frame, often so when Bees decide to make their own Swarm Cells !) 2) Once Capped ( say x 12th Day from Egg) as you dented plenty of space : You can easily Cut Out "Harvest" those QC's : I prefer to use Scissors over a Hive Tool. Cut so the Cell has a chunk of Comb it hangs from too. 3) That way you can place these QC's into a Roller Cage (Open Lid at Top : lower that QC into it, use that wedge of attached Comb (trim as required.) So that Cell is held firmly in that Cage. Pressing down the Lid onto that Wax Wedge also holds those QC's in place. Add a bit of Damp Cardboard into the open bottom end to 'Plug' them Closed. (Later you can wiggle this a little loose so Virgin Queen can exit into her own Queenless Hive !) 4) Bank all these Cages meantime in a eg ideally x3 Frame Nuc with Filler Board (add another x2 Frames as they Grow ! Compact is cosy. Gaps are 'drafty'. Make Nuc up with x3 of Fully Capped Brood / or all Larva Stages only ! Or NO Eggs : or Bees will use these to make their own random QCs ! You want those "Chosen Eggs to be your Queens" not a Frame Egg to be 'any kinda Queen' !?!. Feed this Nuc plenty of 1:1 Syrup to allow Nurse bees do what they do best : Nurse New Queens. After say a Week, those QCs will of Hatched their Virgin Queens within those Secure Cages ! Make up Mini Mating Nucs : add x1 Virgin Queen in her Cage. She should be accepted Phremone wise, the Bees will Chew and loosen that Cardboard, until she can crawl out. [Do say have a little peek at that Cage a few Days after install to see if she got out OK. If shes still in their, carefully remove that Card, put your Thumb over that 'Open' end and do a Controlled release so VQ crawls from that Roller Cage straight down into a Gap between Frames. NOT so she flies off off away from the Hive !?! Virgin Queens are very flighty and fast movers ! Hope this helps. 😎 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 Happy Beekeeping 2023 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 I did this recently here in Scotland 🏴 : in late May and or early June. Late Spring is best time to make great Queens re all that Pollen, Nectar and Hive Resources around. Can do for June July, early August too. Any later its less favourable as less Drones are around ! You want new Queens to build up a good Colony before Autumn sets in. 😉
Возможно, оно потеряется при переводе, но вам не нужно комментировать меня, независимо от того, что вы думаете о видео. У вас есть видео?? Будь лучше товарищ ✌️
Thanks for sharing your version of the Nicot System. You ask for others experience with it. This link is to my understanding of the system... ruclips.net/video/-f48vot96fA/видео.html
WOW, you do not listen before commenting. I said here the goal is 75% but 50 isn't bad. 50% is great over 0% when you do not try. 50% is fabulous over 0% , 10 or 30 % . The point is to try and learn but have a positive mindset.
Nice to play when you have a few hives and you get 30% or 50%. But I have about 100 hives and I can't play with 5 queens every week. I work according to the known method grafting and get 90%. I have a problem with my eyes so I tried the Niko system a few times and my result is out of 20 I got 14,12 it's not good for me so I check what others or what my mistakes is?. I need 90%.
@shimspot5213 This video was for beginners, I run 200 hives and sell queens. 75% in the industry is fine. Nicot is not a great way, but for anyone starting out, it gets them into the schedule of queen rearing. MOST beginners would be happy to get any result. I graft by hand and get consistent results of 75 or higher.
Don't waste time using Nicot. Orginal Janter system German founder Carl Janter system or South Kore Replica version Yaseng Janter system. Same day working. Installation and 4 day later ready for using..
This video is better than others about Nicot queen rearing. It shows both negative and positive sides.
Thanks, I hope it helps!
i love the way the bee supervises.
I enjoyed your video, and had good luck with the nicot system.
With my poor vision, it was my only hope.😊
🌻✌️ I get that !👀
Great video capturing of the process. Thank you for the detailed coverage
THANKS FOR WATCHING 🌻 👀 🙂
This is an AMAZING video. Thank you for your effort and time.
🥰 mashallah ⚘️
Very very interesting video. Much patience and hand hability 👏👏👏👏👏👍
😁 thanks so much !
I went cheap last year and used cost effective Chinese Nicot waste of money cups didn’t fit lids didn’t close over long cups ,waste of money went back to original French Nicot which most but not all Queens lay up. Nice and informative video 💪🏽👍🏼
I used the Nicot system twice last season an got around 50% take. I got lucky with using queens willing to lay to the point that after a little over 1 day I gad enough eggs that I was able to remove the queen an leave it until day 4. I’m going to try it again this year we’ll see how it goes. I really appreciate your video that includes the “worts”. That’s where insightful instructions comes from. Thank you!
Thanks for watching! I hope you fair better this time around!
Really interesting video.
I think I’ll try both the Nicot and grafting method. Its great that you can see the value in Nicot system despite the frustration.
Thanks! I am glad you appreciated it. You can learn from almost everything if you are open to the lesson❤🌻
17:53 The drone on your hand is reporting for duty early 😂 Thanks for another great video, Susan!
Thanks Sara!!😁🥰
Th🙏nk you for a great video... A lot of patience and health for you and your family and of course for your bees...
😁 thank you and the same to you my friend 🧡
Thanks for the informative information in this system. I agree with you that you do not have as much control an you can not wait an wait for her to give you enough eggs of the same time period . Just how much or do you ever use a starter finisher . Also do you put your cells in your new colony or do you hatch out your queens. Thanks
Pretty much everything that you have said about the system I have experienced LOL. I prefer the Chinese grafting tools. Grafting is a little bit harder to get the hang of but gives you a lot more control in the end. Thanks for sharing my friend.
yes! I like more control! 🙃😂 Thanks for watching!!
❤ok
Feel like I might have made an error on my first attempt. My queen laid the entire 100 in 24 hrs, so I pulled just the eggs before they were fed. Haven't gotten clarity if they are supposed to be fed first or if an freshly laid egg is fine. I'll know in several days..
You will learn something !! You may get a queen or 2. Upside is You have a queen that lays like champ in the box !!💥 If I read this right, you put the cups with just eggs in the builder ? If they are absolutely queenless they may feed them and do fine! It will add 2 to 3 days on to the schedule though. So you may have capped cells in 6 to 7 days instead of 4 because they had to hatch ! You can carefully pull the frame in 5 days to see if they are feeding or if they got eaten back. Good luck 🍀🍀🐝🐝
PS your bees in your avatar are adorable 😍
How about the Varro mites? There were several on in the cells
Queen should bee in cage no more than 24h. If you keep queen 4 days,she lay eggs and bees clean it. After adding cells to builder you chek acceptance rate after 3 hours and add new larve wher is missing.put honey all over Nicot before polishing.
thanks!
How interesting, thank you. all new world for me.:)
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Great video❤
Thank you!!
I get a good take grafting but its an acquired skill to pick up the larvae w/o scraping it on the cell. I tried different graft tools but the Chinese seems to work best for me. I made some nice queens a few weeks ago, waiting on eggs.
It is a skill, but like waiting on eggs, patience is part of the practice😁 I hope they all come back mated!!
Thanks for the video. I have one more important question.
If a queen can handle the nicot, can the nicot cartridge be used 2 or 3 times in a season, or is it only once per season per queen?
✌️ use it multiple times !! Just be sure to put the box in the queens hive prior to adding her to the cage so it smells like her hive and is cleaned by the bees 🐝🐝
I have 1 of these and did not really know what to do to use it. Thank u for doing this video after watching you trying to use it I have decided not to. Thank u for being honest about the system. Have a blessed day
You can use the parts in queen rearing. Just learn to hand graft. It takes patience but everyone can learn it. 💛🌈
@@buttsbeesllc4063 Thanks
I usually just graft into the nicot holders using wax cups so that I can use the hair rollers with them. I’m not a fan of having to catch the queen and wrangle her into the box, let alone the laying issues.
That's what do, hand graft with this equipment 😁✌️
Làm nữ hoàng bắt đầu từ những quả trứng, và làm từ những ấu trùng. Phương pháp nào tốt hơn ạ ?
Cảm ơn bạn! Tôi thích ghép bằng had
Do you have a video on feeders, how to make them? ❤❤❤❤❤❤
ruclips.net/video/XpiE7iezfwI/видео.html
As a first year beekeeper - I’ve had a bad year at buying queens and there absconding because of wasps and weak hives am guessing - but on Tuesday i tried out Nicot system,placed a Queen in the Nicot frame and today day 3 or maybe some may say day 2 and half far too early because she laid ,but as laid in 109 cells some 3 eggs ,and some just one - but no royal jelly no pupa and no larva stage but I just can’t see anything while wearing the bee suit - I purchased a mini magnifier 60x beautiful little gadget but major mistakes today as a newbie I forgot to take it with me and the frames ,yellow cups part of the Nicot system - so basically I may a major boo boo and could do nothing about it as my bee yard is 1 hours drive - have you any suggestions for me ?? Btw am heading into autumn in the UK ,so to get the queens mated might of been an ask
We all make mistakes! Even now years in😬 Get a checklist of things you need to bring, a notebook with dates because of scheduling queens , and maybe give yourself a break😉
Maybe if you are doing queens leave a small kit at the apiary if possible since you are so far.
If I got you right , the Q laid in 109 cell. WOW! I think, if you had the right equipment with you , I would have used what she gave you. Sometimes holding the cage/Nicot up to the sun you can see better the eggs/larva. I can't see and need glasses , or you could go with out the veil?
I think you are right and your season is at a close, drones need to be plentiful for a good mating. Learn from this and make a good plan for Spring or next summer!
Where in the UK are you ? , I am trying grafting next year 2024 and could really do with watching close up
@@johnstockburn6396 bee yard is in Evesham
If you are getting more than 1 egg in a. Cell that is not the queen ...you have a worker laying ..will not work
Was that honey water you sprayed on them ?
Sugar water, usually with mint
Does the cell cup still get accepted by the nurse bees if it has two eggs or a larvae and an egg in the same cell? I thought it might be rejected if it has two eggs . Ive never used my nicot system yet and dont know about it.
I believe they will eat one and keep one.
@@buttsbeesllc4063 YAY! I am glad to get an answer so fast! That's great to know! Thank You! Your Queen Rearing videos are TOP NOTCH !
Yeah, Nicot always has those timing problems.. good for grafting. The Jenter cage has a bit different made cells and queens like it much better. Never had a problem with that one.. queen does it over night and you can let her out in the morning. With Nicot l had them moving eggs from the cage and put in the new comb on the outside one time. Strange.
Never tried Jenter, figured it was the same. Maybe I will look at it again🧐 Thanks !
@@buttsbeesllc4063 l have an old 80 cells one. Never had problems with it. I used it to try with eggs and very young larvas. The difference between them is that Jenter has wax in the cells and the transfer has 1 more step. Some queen breeders here use 4-5 of them to produce all their queens.. but grafting isn't worse. It's just preferences
I dont think its nicot, its wath the bees think day have to do! Gridings from Croatia( se až hive) best regards and suces!👍👍👍👍
Greetings comrade! 🐝🐝🐝✌️✌️🍯🍯🍯
🌹👍
🌻✌️
Did you say oww, Witch ? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😅
😬
The queen does not want to lay eggs in the NICOT Box!?!?!?
We use the cups in which the Queen laid eggs only once, then we throw them all away?????
I use the 'Natural' Method. Aka : Let the Bees make the Queens !
Tip :
Choose Best Hive Queen
and take a Frame of Brood in ALL Stages.
Including Eggs ! BRUSH all Bees off Carefully. Don't shake them off as (Shaken Eggs are only good for Omelettes) not Queen Rearing. 🤭
Get your Hive tool and mash a under Dent just under say Eg x6 equally spaced apart Eggs in a linear Line. Can do a higher Row and a Lower Row but do have enough Space above, between and below so QCs can be hanging, harvested easily. [Dent more than the Queens you want !] So you can choose the best. Offer up Spare to Bee Pals or your Bee Club !
*This Frame must be added to a QUEENLESS
Colony. Or into a high up Box of Bees, above a Queen Excluder. Bees around these Eggs must 'feel' Queenless to make QC's ! * Or at least Bees are to far away to pass up that lower Deep Box Queen"s Pheromone to those nurturing Nurse Queen Bees building those Queen Cells for you. 😉
If your using say a Frame off a Langstroth, dent Comb, 2" Space across right, dent another, 2" Space across etc.
Why Dent you ask ? 👀
Well, by doing this under dent : 1) that Egg will be Drawn Down into a Queen Cell "with Plenty of Empty Area " about it, underneath it for that "Peanut: QC" to be made. (Its not placed or stuck tight to Wax or Frame, often so when Bees decide to make their own Swarm Cells !)
2) Once Capped ( say
x 12th Day from Egg)
as you dented plenty of space : You can easily Cut Out "Harvest" those QC's : I prefer to use Scissors over a Hive Tool.
Cut so the Cell has a chunk of Comb it hangs from too. 3) That way you can place these QC's into a Roller Cage (Open Lid at Top : lower that QC into it, use that wedge of attached Comb (trim as required.) So that Cell is held firmly in that Cage. Pressing down the Lid onto that Wax Wedge also holds those QC's in place. Add a bit of Damp Cardboard into the open bottom end to 'Plug' them Closed.
(Later you can wiggle this a little loose so Virgin Queen can exit into her own Queenless Hive !)
4) Bank all these Cages meantime in a eg ideally x3 Frame Nuc with Filler Board (add another x2 Frames as they Grow ! Compact is cosy. Gaps are 'drafty'.
Make Nuc up with x3 of Fully Capped Brood / or all Larva Stages only ! Or NO Eggs : or Bees will use these to make their own random QCs !
You want those "Chosen Eggs to be your Queens" not a Frame Egg to be 'any kinda Queen' !?!.
Feed this Nuc plenty of 1:1 Syrup to allow Nurse bees do what they do best : Nurse New Queens.
After say a Week, those QCs will of Hatched their Virgin Queens within those Secure Cages !
Make up Mini Mating Nucs : add x1 Virgin Queen in her Cage. She should be accepted Phremone wise, the Bees will Chew and loosen that Cardboard, until she can crawl out.
[Do say have a little peek at that Cage a few Days after install to see if she got out OK. If shes still in their, carefully remove that Card, put your Thumb over that 'Open' end and do a Controlled release so VQ crawls from that Roller Cage straight down into a Gap between Frames. NOT so she flies off off away from the Hive !?! Virgin Queens are very flighty and fast movers !
Hope this helps. 😎
🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝
Happy Beekeeping 2023
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I did this recently here in Scotland 🏴 : in late May and or early June.
Late Spring is best time to make great Queens
re all that Pollen, Nectar and Hive Resources around.
Can do for June July, early August too. Any later its less favourable as less Drones are around ! You want new Queens to build up a good Colony before Autumn sets in. 😉
Очень долго личинка высохла уже пока бабушка все сделала😂
Возможно, оно потеряется при переводе, но вам не нужно комментировать меня, независимо от того, что вы думаете о видео. У вас есть видео?? Будь лучше товарищ ✌️
Matca nu vrea sa oua in Cutia NICOT !?!?!?
Cupuletele in care au ouat Matca le folosim o singura data, apoi le aruncam pe toate ?????
Thanks for sharing your version of the Nicot System. You ask for others experience with it. This link is to my understanding of the system... ruclips.net/video/-f48vot96fA/видео.html
✌️🐝
50 percent success is bad, try again
WOW, you do not listen before commenting. I said here the goal is 75% but 50 isn't bad. 50% is great over 0% when you do not try. 50% is fabulous over 0% , 10 or 30 % . The point is to try and learn but have a positive mindset.
Nice to play when you have a few hives and you get 30% or 50%.
But I have about 100 hives and I can't play with 5 queens every week.
I work according to the known method grafting and get 90%. I have a problem with my eyes so I tried the Niko system a few times and my result is out of 20 I got 14,12 it's not good for me so I check what others or what my mistakes is?. I need 90%.
@shimspot5213 This video was for beginners, I run 200 hives and sell queens. 75% in the industry is fine. Nicot is not a great way, but for anyone starting out, it gets them into the schedule of queen rearing. MOST beginners would be happy to get any result. I graft by hand and get consistent results of 75 or higher.
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