Lagoon 52S Greatcircle - Windforce 10 to Ibiza (ep.16)
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- Опубликовано: 15 мар 2017
- Right in the first couple of weeks after delivery of Greatcircle in Bordeaux the cat was tested in some challenging conditions. Flying from Gibraltar to Ibiza with over 50 knots of wind in the back. May have broken the all time speed record with a Lagoon with 27,2 knots....
Very happy to have an experienced skipper on board in the beginning so we could experience how well the 52S handles even in conditions like this.
Since then Greatcircle has been cruising the Med and we recently decided to join the ARC at the end of 2019.
That Seal song is PERFECT for sailing. The message in that song PERFECTLY describes how sailors think! Heavy wind? Bring it on! We are never going to survive unless we get a little crazy! Loved this video!
Back in '92, my future wife and I were, "having fun", in the ocean, just 100' or so off a Florida beach, when we got back to the beach, that song was playing. Neat moment!!! :)
........~If we weren't all crazy, we would go insane~....... ~Jimmie Buffet 😎
Now that was exciting. Glad you had the seas on your six (following) rather than your beam or your nose. Nice too that you had an experienced enough captain to know the boat could handle it. As you said in the end the weakest link on board is the fear and anxiety the people bring with them... very wise saying.
Great video, good music perfect volume in the background, very exciting trip
Nice!! I did a down wind leg on the around Puerto Rico race back in the 80s. We had sustained winds of 55 and up. Waves ran to 20 feet , and we had a Beneteau 456 surfing over 25 knots in the swells
We kept a full main and a 3/4 ounce chute...with a blooper.
horizon job of the century .
thanks for this video!!
Thanks for the videos. This video debunks theory that catamarans cannot handle rough weathers.
Wowwww it surfs perfectly on waves 😍😍
What a wonderful yacht. Always been a dream of mine to leave everything, (except my partner in life, of course), and live the rest of my life sailing a yacht like that. Great to watch your videos. All the best to you, and happy sailing. ....
damn, that was some awesome sailing and you guys and the boat handled it absolutely beautiful, I was expecting to see footage from the drone too LOL . many thanks for sharing and best from Hong Kong...
South of Spain wow must be nice, Great Vid & Music love the 52s Cheers !!
Almost surreal to me. The built in kitchen has more working space than mine and the views from it... I have my kitchen in a very wrong place. ;-)
This was breathtaking. Something I have never seen before. Many thanks for sharing! I am No. 4391.
Great video - good to see actual TWS and AWS readings to back up your headline. The vid made me even more sure that a Lagoon is a great boat for heavy weather and ocean sailing. Nothing was tied down or secured in the cabin from mugs on the table to cardboard boxes on the shelf and you were able to cook a meal that night. Try that in a monohull.
I crossed the Atlantic in a Lagoon 410 in pretty horrible weather out of season (30 out of 37 nights at from France had thundersqualls and lightning, plus a few nights with AWS of 40+ and one with 50+). The boat looked after us superbly and of course did not roll as we ran.
Loved the vid - enjoy. Our next transat will alas be in a monohull which will be safe I'm sure but not nearly as comfortable.
The fierce, brave, and musical sailors under big blue ocean waves. 🌊
Amazing videos, in a couple of months we will try to do the same route Bordeaux - Ibiza in a 52S, thanks for sharing a beautiful experience...
What's the name and number of your 52S? How many cabins?
The film made a deep impresson on me - thanks for sharing !
surfing into the trough has to be a nerve racking feeling
Great video! Like the 50. Capturing great moments on passage. Music 👍
Thanks! It’s a 52S btw, quite different compared to the 50. I like the interior of the 50 though.
I sailed in a storm with similar wind speeds and boat speeds, also in a catamaran, while crossing the Atlantic. And yes, during the storm we had life jackets on!
Normally, we would only wear them during nightwatch when you're on the boat deck alone. But during the storm we wore them all the time, even in the salon, because things can start to go wrong very quickly!
Sailing life jackets are very low profile because they inflate with a CO2 cartridge when you hit the water. So they're not hard to wear. It's careless to not wear them in those conditions.
Great!
Everyone is complaining that it is unsafe hooo booo myyyp myyp. This is living. You are the most alive when you are close to dying and pushing the limits but make it. Love the look of the boat, clean lines and good space.
Exactly!! But people will never know that if they never push that hard.
Wonderful Video!
Hello from Saint Louis Missouri USA.
Looked like fun to me, gets the juices flowing 👍
Nice vid. She certainly does fly. Beautiful.
great cat was never in trouble, great video thumbs up
What a ride and Seal music perfect. And the boat just pulled like a train!
I think he was a pretty good skipper who knew the capabilities of his boat as ex
Great video. I know these boats, having sailed a Lagoon 420 for thousands of offshore miles. The boat handled those conditions fine. BUT.....you have always got to be alert. The danger is of course a pitch pole but he never looked close to that. If the boat rounds up a wave can capsize you and in a cat there is no coming back from that like in a monohull. Hence my personal preference for sustained offshore sailing is a monohull. A bridle/drogue off the stern should be part of the heavy air kit to slow you downwind so the wave does not pick you up. But he was never close to that.
"Those who wait for the wind to ease before heading offshore should never put to sea".
Captain Downunder it seems a trimaran gets you best of both?
@Captain Downunder A 52ft 30 ton cat will have to have a tsunami behind it to capsize and tsunamis only hit coasts. I don't think you are right on this one. Show me ONE catamaran of that size that has ever capsized without a total fuckup by the crew (like not easing sheets, reefing, changing course and/or disengaging the autopilot). The largest cruising catamaran that capsized I know was an Atlantic 57 in 2010 (autopilot engaged and it was a wind-induced, not wave-induced, capsizing) and that was half the weight of this Lagoon. Are you sure you want to end up turtling in a monohull since it seems you want to take it easy on proactive measures when facing a squall? Because that's what'll happen.
The weather was not so bad....big waves are different things !!!
@@Abebe345 No
@@C_R_O_M________ You said it! You just need one f..kup by someone to go over.
Super gaaf, fijn om te zien dat de Lagoon het zo goed doet in slecht weer. veel plezier op jullie toekomstige zeil adventures!
27,2 knots with a Lagoon !!!! It is incredible..... Fantastic ...
Just don't try to make a habit of it.
A 30 ton boat going at 27 knots has one hell of a lot momentum behind it...and it's not going to stop without things snapping.
No worries, never again
Was thé speed of thé wind
Sustained wind twice for a couple of hours 45 - 50 knots max 56 knots
Hi to you both great videos and choice of music.
Had you much experience of sailing when you bought your first lagoon?
Hope to hear.
Stay safe ⚘🙏
“In a world full of people , only some want to fly “.
Great video, great music. Skol 🍻
Proost!
wow that is just a mansion on water !! beautiful !
A nice video to see! congratulations ! this is my dream ! good winds !
Very nice shots, the port bow almost bury under the front wave !!!, it's a catamaran !!! , at that time reduce speed is must.
Thank you for sharing
Abdulla Alsulaiti indeed, cats have been lost at sea for pitchpoling at high speeds.
Smedly Dumpsterjuice I am interested in knowing of these. Do you have the names of vessels to get me started?
Secret Squirrel nope, don't remember their names, but watch the big cats race on tv. You'll see it. And yes, big racing cats have living areas below for the distance racers. Just not like a cruiser.
@@MrLikeke No they all sunk
@@smedlydumpsterjuice8875
No shortage of monohulls pitch-poling either.
When I was a kid I met Miles and Beryl Smeeton, and I was fascinated by the story of how they were dismasted when their 46 foot ketch Tzu Hang was pitch poled rounding Cape Horn..
Since then I've met people from two other monohulls who suffered the same fate.
Best cat I´ve seen so far. Good work Lagoon.
Their bulkheads are cracking on a bunch of boats... not good work at all...
@@It-b-Blairyou have no idea… lagoon builds solid and strobg boats. Only the L450 has some problems. But it was made in a different Factory than all over 50 ft lagoons. Also not all Lagoons 450 had problems. There have been produced over 1000 of L450s and under 100 of them had issues. No issues reported from any other Lagoon cat.
Wow the Hydra helmed through the full gusts? Amazing testament to cats in bad weather , trust in the boat and the autopilot most would have run for cover
Goed om die Nederlands te hoor. Dankie vir die fantastiese video. Die kajuit is soos 'n huis of kamer. Als kan van uit die kajuit beheer word. Prima!
Baja goed, dankie!
@@CatGreatcircle Sehr danke Cat Greatcirle. I was in England from 1998 to 2000 AD. In that time I was 4 times to the Nederlands. The first was to Nijkerk, near Utrecht, from were my forbears hail from (1591). In the South of the Netherlands the spoken Dutch was very the same to Afrikaans. In Groeningen it was like German. As you know in 1994 ZA got a total new Government. And the new Government's language policy change. As a Afrikander I feel as a outsider. That was also what Pres. Mbheki (1999-2005) said: "Afrikaners is colonialist of a special kind,. They did not left when the colonial power went away..." In my past, Holland was not seen a friendly country and sporting the Backs(&Communist) to get the Whites out. Dit was bezonders lekker om een TAAL te hoor bijna zoals mijn eigen Moeder taal. Voor Nederland om een verbintenis met die Afrikanders te hebbe. Dat kan maklik als rasisties gezien word door die NIe-Blanke bevolking van ZA. 1 Jan. 2000 AD was ik in die Kerk in Nijkerk. Dat zal ik altijd onthoue.
So concerning to see the leeward bow trying to bury itself in the trough of each wave. Awesome speed but it just means things go wrong that much quicker
I was thinking the same. Most cat capsizes are due to digging in the bow and pitch polling over, opposed to going over sideways. Its the biggest thing I like about the performance cats over typical condo cats is how much more reserve buoyancy they have further out and sharper bows that can cut waves instead of plowing into them and even taking water over the top pulling them down. I think they were turning onto a broad reach though so they can surf the waves more instead of them all just passing under the boat. Cool footage though all around, finding more details about cats in heavy weather is harder to find than mono stuff.
Wow, great footage! I was scared watching this! :-) I am considering a Cat for my next boat, so watching this alleviates some anxiety about high wind sailing. I would have felt really comfortable on a monohull, so again, thanks for this! Fair winds!
Did you end up getting a catamaran?
Wow...what a incredible boat. Drone views would've been amazing!! Congratulations on a great boat you guys!!
During the launch of nr 1 the drone was in the air but not live, during moving nr 4 there was an issue with the drone hence the GoPro improvisation on the truck.
@@CatGreatcircle That's okay, I wasn't complaining! Thank you for taking the time to create edit and post your videos!
No worries I didn’t think you were, looking forward to sea trials in the coming weeks
Sorry wrong video, I thought you were reacting on the most recent video 🙈
We tried the drone up to 30 knots, as the speed difference to the boat is still ok then but it gets increasingly difficult to get it back aboard in one piece
That was fun! :-) Thanks for the ride.
Nice.. Miss that heavy weather and my boat
Gracias por compartir , he disfrutado de esos 50 nudos de viento.
Nice handeling the boat and nice boat !!
looks very calm to me..
nice boat
Hola mé gusta mucho tus vídeos y sobre todo tu barco es una maravilla felicidades .
Mooi hoor !
en thumbs up for cleaning your kitchen gear with the dishcloth :)
Amazing, thanks for sharing.
👏👏👏👏👏 Parabéns Família do ⚓ Mar.. Muito Bom Viajar Com Vcs.. 👍Boa Sorte 🗽
Muito obrigado
That is exactly what i love.
Thx for this upload.
Prachtige video en wat een snelheid zeg! Echt Top!!!!
I liked the lights on during the night in the saloon, made me feel safe for some reason. Sail on!!
996601 996601 pretty but really ruins night vision though. Amber lights the norm if lights must be on at night, dim brightness on electronics displays as well
Great video, congratulations.
Yep keeping a cool head and watching the surface on all points,following seas,wind direction,don`t panic and try not to vomit...
Great Vid, well done wow didn't know the 52 could get that speed, impressive all-around .
Nice to see a catamaran really working for a change.
Then you will like episode 136 as well
THE BEST SALING ONE YET WELL DONE
Fantastic video. Thanks for sharing.
started with 2 reefs in Gibraltar and the standard jib, rolled the jib away later on. Close to a third reef, but wasn't necessary in the end. Yep wouldn't have done this without Flo.
Cat Greatcircle surprised you did not keep a bit of jib up.
Mark Thomasson we didn’t have a clue at that time in circumstances like this. Flo decided. Still not sure though what would be the best thing to do, apart from taking the line for the third reef along 🙈
On the new boat we can reef the jib max 4 turns so we would have to take it away completely as well
@@CatGreatcircle The best balance for heavy running is some jib unfurled and no main. The jib is pulling the boat from the bow. The main is pushing the boat from the center. The jib can be furled if conditions worsen without having to turn into the wind.
@@zoomsails1437 duikt die dan niet juist meer?
Looks like some epic sailing. If you ever sail by Maui come visit us.
Really appreciate the videos! If you guys want a great mic for doing voiceovers I recommend the Audio-Technica ATR2100-USB. It costs about $70 or less and has the sound quality of the Heil PR-40 which sells for about $300 or so. It plugs into your USB, I've been using it and it's awesome! I'd love to hear some tech details in voice over in your videos. Would come in handy on those windy go pro shots. I know making videos is a lot of work and I'm sure you have enough to do but I thought I'd pass the info on. Thanks for everything!
Jim Sullivan we've got Rode stuff but unfortunately seldom take the time to install it 😇
The Apogee 96K is an excellent voiceover mic too.
ATR2100-USB
AMAZINGGGGGGGG! Can't deny that is a bit scary to be near waves but is by far EXCITING!!!!!!!!
Just the thought of a calm ocean is scary.. all that water, and not being able to touch the bottom if you're in it.. yikes
It's great to see such excellent behaviour from the Lagoon. I do question the decision to leave port with that forecast. The Mediterranean is not a tame sea to toy with.
Amazing video and Yacht
I don't know anything about sailing but that looked calm inside the boat. Was expecting mayhem but everyone looked calm. Great video cheers
That looks like fun! You guys were moving!
Good old Florian - he Captains, he catches, he cooks.
BY FAR THE COOLEST THING I HAVE SEEN A LAGOON DO!!!! WOW!
Well, we wouldn’t wanna be in similar situations again if we can avoid it, but the 52S is a very special Lagoon...
Wow that was awesome..ride...love it
Should have made some Tuna Steaks with balsamic Reduction sauce and you put that on top of the Tuna steak after you grill or pan sear it and you put whatever greens you have like a spring mix salad or arugula and it’ll be the best thing you’ve ever ate !! And season the tuna very simple Salt and pepper maybe if you like garlic alittle bit of garlic powder but regardless the balsamic Reduction will be amazing and after you plate it alittle olive oil or whatever you have !! I always enjoy a tuna steak like that with avocado slices and roasted potatoes !! Very simple recipe also everyone have balsamic and olive oil salt pepper and early on in a boat you’ll have a salad mix !! If you have it grill slices of peach’s and plums with some sugar and put that on top of the tuna !!
Fantastic voyage!!
Thats a hell of a demonstration of the boats capabilities - well done & I hope the breakage list was very minimal - Well done!
No breakage at all (until we tried to get the reefs out ourselves when Flo was asleep and managed to tear the lazy bag....)
Great Video, not sure how much ignorant bliss is involved!
Super..cette traversée. au moins, il y avait de la mer..!!
Using the main and no headsail in those conditions makes life very difficult for the autopilot. The boat will be constantly trying to round up. Using the headsail, partly furled would be far more relaxed, and safer, as it tends to lift the bow rather than driving it down.
The 27kt max is almost certainly a GPS glitch. Ours, which is a similar model is showing a 655 kt max.
The autopilot was doing a fantastic job, never had the feeling manual steering was needed. I am still not able to judge whether furled jib or reefed main would be a better choice with these models where the mast is way back. The 52S owners manual agrees with you as it states mainsail lowered and jib 30-40% at 45 to 55 knots true downwind. As to the speed we saw it go well over 20 knots several times on a surf, the speed seemed to built up regularly and accurate but it’s not really important as we were not in a race and we know we’re not the fastest cat on the planet. It sails really well though and we feel very comfortable and safe in normal conditions now we know the boat can handle abnormal conditions this well.
ich bin Americana, nien sprechen zie dutch, love the video, great music, new sub. beautiful boat, wish I was there too....lol going watch them all now.
Thanks!
Fresh fish & Rum Coffee lightens the mood of any Crew/Team naturally not on the same plate lol
Unreal! Love from Merimbula, Australia 👍
Goeie video, geniet julle reise en veilig bly
that new boat handled well in the storm
Impressive video showing the boats capabilities. Thank you for posting.
A note to your skipper; “command” is not about having to demonstrate your skill and ability (e.g. handling a vessel in poor weather). It’s about not being in that position in the first place.
A quick risk assessment (New Boat/ Inexperienced crew/ known poor weather / offshore passage etc..) would have had you safely moored up in harbour waiting for a fairer passage.
Scenario: What would you have done with a Skipper Overboard?... (Not that at Force 10 there was a life jacket in sight).
I feel a sea anchor was necessary...
Awesome video.
Oitstanding! Thank you.
what a ride!
So nice trip
Me watching other sailing videos of monohulls going through squalls:
"Holly Shit!"
Then me watching this video:
"Looks a bit bumpy i guess..."
Can't help but be reminded of Steve Zissou, the great french singer doing some Marley
I know it's an older video but that's pretty cool 👍🙂
Seems ages ago..
Happy Voyages
"We just lost our engine"
Enjoyed listening to seal.
Anything that pushes safe sailing and real experiences rock... how folks fund it should not even be considered relevant. BUT for some folks, not watching what they do not like is never enough... Nasty snarky comments and pompous retorts seem to be easier... TRUE COLORS SHINING THROUGH....SAD...
Well done, and great sea boat. Not too sure about all those big windows in case of breaking waves when beating to.
I wonder how this same passage would feel on your Outremer 55...
Can't wait for you input on the difference between the lagoon and you new boat....
If we can avoid it we wouldn’t go in similar conditions again but based on what we saw on other Outremers we won’t need it to surf well over 20 knots. Splash in 1 month...
Outstanding.
Is this captain with you guys just to show you all the in’s and outs of your he boat? Or is he your full time skipper? Thanks for posting video, It is educational about how much this boat take. Thanks again, John
Another great video! Particularly liked the aerial shots of Gib as we used to live there. Do you have a Facebook page? I couldn't find it. If not I am sure a lot of Facebook sailors would enjoy following your dream.
Facebook Cat Greatcircle
i think i saw the main up for a second or two!!!...
The main was up all the time, 2 reefs
"Peregar" means in Russian - state after being very drunk, when in the morning there still is the smell of alcohol from the person :D
So, a hangover
@@woof7538 so bad that the sweat smells like a poured shot... 😜
Nice sail folks.
Impressive passage!
Love it .... I never got my Lagoon 42 over 14.8 knots ....
one question... the Lagoon 52 S need crew???