How the Irish dress in the 4th-6th Century
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- This week we are with Shane Kent from University College Cork as we cover how the Irish dressed in the 5th-6th century.
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Great video by Shane always amazing to listen to and watch
Thank you very much..I am planing another one for the channell soon
Thanks man and I look forward to your next video Shane.
Great video. It is a shame we don't have more definitive sources about this time frame.
With the rise of the Uí Néill and St.Patrick I fully agree with you.
Angus McBride was one of the best historical armor and arms illustrators of all time. I have a few of books.
Thank you for your time and effort on this it's much appreciated
Skipped through, but hear 'possible', 'might be', 'could be'. In short, we don't know what the Irish of the dark ages wore. Maybe working on the wool trade, inferences could be drawn on tweeds, kilts, and Shetland wool.
Most likely and a very good point that I agree with.
Unfortunately ..as mentioned in the video...no clothing of remence of fabric has been found within the time frame mentioned. Hence why I tried to not infer anything regarding how it may look
@@shanekent4896 At least we know they wore something. Spanish statesman, who praised Irish soldiers for their toughness, said to the Spanish King they lived on oats, wore next to nothing.
Very interesting!
Thanks Ronan. Hopefully we can get you on at some point.
There has been some wool textiles that have been dated from Irelands Bronze age and found else where that Ireland exsported with fibers 10-12 threads/ cm. There is a new diseration comming out by Dr Susanna Harris this year done by clothing historians.
This was an interesting one. It is Unfortunate that we do not have anything definitive directly from the time period.
Yes! It's 100% how I felt as well. But it's still better then noting.
A wet climate always rots textiles 😢
So happy to come across this! Slaínte!
So all we have to go on is the amount of trading and cultural interaction between group's to extrapolate what people might have worn. Could other better understood connections between these groups be used as a proxy for commonality between different groups?
Well...I did not mention how clothing was made as cloth production did not change till the 19th century...as for the 4th to 6th century..like I mentioned.ireland has next to no fabric or clothing finds..I could assume fashion may have been slimler to the native British or romans.. but we simply don't know
Thanks man
No thank you!! How you keeping man??
@@IrishMedievalHistory Going great how about you mate?
@@waynemcauliffe2362 busy out. Need to get started on the next video today, people keep asking me why they have Viking DNA. So am going to answer it.
@@IrishMedievalHistory Sounds good don`t forget the McAuliffe`s ha ha
@@waynemcauliffe2362 Will see what we can do.
What about bog bodies?
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300 hours of viewing life. Not much now we are very much on top of it and will smash it out easy.
@@IrishMedievalHistory good to hear
Your helping us Irish know who we are
Our nation will be world leaders in ethics and justice
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As an oldhead, I'd prefer if this dated to the 6th century BC to the 4th century AD. I hate the roman and german influences on celtic dress and culture, and would much prefer to know how we dressed before that cultural influx.
dam :O...1,200views
They also wore hats of various kiinds.....
Is this what both men and women would have worn?
jeeze, nearly 1.700 views :O
I don't know how anyone has the audacity to even second guess what the Irish wore so long ago. If the poor clothing wore by the Irish in the 19th century gives any indication what was wore by the Irish that much further back, with no shoes poor clothing, probably infrequently washed I would expect in the 5-6th century the clothing worn would be much worse. The only piece of clothing quite possibly worn by women would be the shawl.
That's a poor example. You are talking about a time when the great hunger happened. This time period they're talking about is centuries earlier, and if you've ever been to the National Museum of Ireland here in Dublin, just seeing weapons and jewellery from these time periods or around this time period shows just how sophisticated and artistic these people were.
We have records and drawings of what the Irish wore during Tudor times, and late medieval times, it isn't that big of a stretch to assume they've always been wearing elaborate clothing, designs and accessories. Your statement comes off as judging the Irish as being savages or something, which is so far beyond what they were.
You also say about the Irish about not washing? They were the cleanest of that time, with soap, and a hair rituals such as: when men returned from hunting etc, they bathed, and their family combed their hair because they loved to bathe and smell nice. The combs in the museum are stunning, highly detailed and skillfully made, far from savages who didn't bathe.
As for women, you say only a shawl? Not at all. They probably wore a large cloak made of wool which would look like that is all their wearing but far from it. They would have from very early times wore a Leine underneath, with a dress over top, and belts, satchels, jewellery. Even women who weren't wealthy would have worn a warm, woollen dress, maybe linen, but not just a shawl as you say.
Shoes? Theirs tons of evidence for them wearing shoes, if you've ever stepped foot in Ireland or the countryside, you know you need footwear. Perhaps during warmer times, children may not have purely because they never went further than their homes and villages, but the men and women would have had simple sandals or one piece shoes.
Utter nonsense to believe they wore little to nothing.
5th-6th century the Irish where taking over parts of Britian. Big difference in the eras.
Laughably ignorant Troll choosing possibly the worse time in Irish history to try and use as example, being oppressed by the global tyrant of the age, systematically robbed & murdered, not allowed to have any education with zero job prospects yeah sure they looked like shit but that is exactly how the Brits wanted it(its easier to sell the bullshit of "they need civilizing", just look at any other country where apartheid is enforced to the max and see how the natives are dressed and you'll know why! take a look at the book of Kells and you'll see how they dressed and it isn't rags, generally knee length trousers with tunic and cloak probably similar to most of Europe at the time.
Maybe you could take some time to research Irish history before you yourself try to second guess and come across looking like you do not know what you are taking about? What have you ever even read about the Irish in the 5th and 6th century, or any of the centuries there about? Did you even know, for example, that while Rome and much of the rest of Europe was collapsing, the Irish were busy preserving history and working on intellectual pursuits?
Did you know that in the Book of Ballymote the following description of the clothing of Cormac mac Art - who lived in the 3rd century! - reads as follows: "His hair was slightly curled, and of golden colour; he had a scarlet shield with engraved devices, and GOLDEN hooks and clasps of SILVER; a wide flowing purple cloak on him, with a gem-set gold brooch over his breast; a gold torque around his neck, a white collared shirt, EMBROIDERED WITH GOLD... a girdle with GOLDEN buckles, and studded with precious stones around him; two GOLDEN SANDALS with GOLDEN BUCKLES upon his feet; two spears with golden sockets, and many bronze rivets in his hand; while he stood in the full glow of beauty, without defect or blemish." Does that sound like a people who could not manage to keep themselves clean and clothed to you?
Did you know that the Irish always took grooming and dressing very seriously, and that the women would spend considerable amounts of time combing and braiding their hair in elaborate ways, even hanging very tiny little gold balls at the ends of those braids? Or that many of their ornaments and beautiful toilet articles from ancient Ireland are still preserved? Items such as beautiful broaches of silver, gold and bronze; great pins for the hair and pins for the cloak; leather purses with embossed patterns for carrying their ornaments. Beautiful combs, mirrors, scented oils for the toilet, as well as silk, satin or woolen dresses made from up to thirty yards of material in one garment!!! All gathered into folds and over this dress worn a long cloak when they were outdoors. Does that sound like a people who could not manage to keep themselves clean and clothed to you?
Did you know that Irish women were prized as wonderful wives by men from many different countries and cultures in Europe, and highly sought out as such? Does that sound like they were dirty, unbathed, and wearing nothing but a shawl? Or do you think that men would go out of their way to seek women from another country because they smelled bad and could not manage to stay clean?
Did you know that to be a member of the Fian - a standing army of specially trained warriors who carried out the mandates of the High King - a potential warrior had to pass many tests, one of which was literacy and the mastering of books of poetry? And that every evening the warriors would bathe themselves, combing and plating their hair before they had eaten? And that both men and women partook of this bathing regularly?
Did you even know that it was considered a shameful breach of hospitality if a bath was not at once prepared for a traveller or stranger in a house where he was staying as a guest? Or that the Irish had such extraordinarily high ethics in regards to hospitality that they would put our own modern world to shame with just a few examples? Does that sound like a people who could not manage to keep themselves clean and clothed to you?
Did you know that to be qualified to make judgements under the very extensive Brehon Laws, a candidate had to study for many, many years and have an entire library of information stored not in books on shelves as modern lawyers and judges do today - but memorized word for word in their heads? Find a modern judge of lawyer who can reference every single law from memory, I dare you. Does that sound like a people who could not manage to keep themselves clean and clothed to you?
Did you know that Irish men and women could often speak multiple languages, and that even in the hills of Ireland you could find them debating theology by such complicated figures as Thomas Aquinas (in the later middle ages) or doing business in Greek? Tell me, our modern men and women who can read and write today, what do they spend their time talking about? Cars and beer? Clothes and nails? Could they even debate Aquinas, or know who he was? Does that sound like a people who could not manage to keep themselves clean and clothed to you?
Did you know that Ireland was becoming so powerful in the 6th and 7th century that when word of the great riches of their monasteries reached the Vikings in the 8th century, the Vikings could not resist but want something that they did not have themselves? That Ireland was repeatedly raided not because it was weak and backward, poor and insignificant, dirty and unbathed - but because it was filled with so much intelligence, intellectual works, art and wealth? Does that sound like a people who could not manage to keep themselves clean and clothed to you?
Tell me, what is it that you know about Ireland in this era?
And since you are so traumatized by those Irish who chose not to wear shoes, perhaps I should take you on a trip to the highly cultured town of Florence, Italy during the Renaissance that helped to shape our modern world. Shall I there introduce you to many of the well-to-do, cultured Italian citizens who are also walking the streets shoeless... streets, I might add, that were frequented by horses and, well.... surely since some of the Irish not wearing shoes makes you imagine so many fictitional horrific things, your imagination should be able to picture how many realistic horrors that must have produced for the sophisticated town that shaped our modern western world! But since you associate people who do not wear shoes as somehow being filthy, I suppose you would find the Florentines quite scandalous, dirty and tattered as well. Those poor, backwards, uncultured, unsophisticated shoeless Florentines...
And what I wrote above about Ireland is just a very slight note in the great wealth of information about a culture that powerfully shaped our own world. But sure, you can feel free to make comments that make it sound as though they were unbathed and in tatters... what that says about your own willingness to second guess history will be something for you to ponder.
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Too bad there were no women there at that time.
I think some irish wore tunics ,some breaches...some nothing at all....🎉i bet they had styles also .......