I grew up in a Cree community in Canada and learned to make moccasins in school. I made a couple of notes while watching your video and maybe they might be helpful? Obviously, I cannot compare moccasins directly to Medieval Irish shoes but I noticed some things that deviated from the pattern/diagram you showed. First, for your mock-up, use a felted wool about the thickness of the leather you intend to use - it behaves more like leather and you can quickly baste it together to get an accurate fit. One important thing that I noticed is that your side seams are a bit low - almost as low as a welt on more modern shoes. Based on the pattern you showed, the top surface of the shoe should be cut smaller and the bottom pieces larger so that the bottom bit curves up the sides of your foot gradually falling down towards the toe. It is my understanding from making moccasins that raising the seam is important for less leaks while walking in mud and water, for wear (less strain on the seams) and for comfort so that you don't feel the seams as much as your feet flatten side to side when your weight is on one foot. Sorry if this has been obnoxious! What a cool project and what a wonderful way to learn more about Medieval foot bags, eh?
That all makes a ton of sense. I actually noticed the deviation from the pattern only as I was editing the video and yes, making the top smaller and the lower part makes a lot of sense. Felt is a great shout, thank you for that! I just so happen to have some 1.5mm felt to hand, so I’ll be using that! Thanks so much for your input, and for teaching me based on your cultural knowledge. How wonderful to be given lessons on this growing up, as well. That’s well good!
@@TheWelshViking I'm glad that was useful! I am forever grateful for the experiences I had while growing up (as a guest in the community). The Cree are truly so creative and skilled. As for the thickness of the hide, I can't really say. Moccasins are often made of hand-prepared smoked moose hide so I can't advise you on that at the moment. But I can check!
Wow, Brendan, great advise. I was just about to make a mock up for my first attempt and am on the lookout for felted wool. Thanks so much for the sizing and seam placement info, too. Do you have your own RUclips videos? I would totally watch you make your mocs. Cheers from Vancouver. :)
My father was born in 1897 in Denmark. (Not so impossible, he was 52 when I showed up). They spun, wove, knit, tanned - basically, could make just about anything needed for food, clothing, furniture. I remember him telling me that nails were expensive - so the "old folks" always used wooden pegs. He was put to making pegs as a little kid. Starting with big ones for construction, working his way down to teeny ones for shoes or boots. Haven't thought of that for years ! I think wooden pegs in leather would be very efficient. Choose correct type of wood.
Never Trust Editing Jimmy... I appreciate editing Jimmy Greatly. Glad to see i'm not alone in talking to items that arn't co-operating. Thank you for emphasising the differing pronounciations of gaelic. Tapadh Leat. Brogan Math.
Oh my giddy aunt! They have sock puppets so why not a shoe puppet? I was laughing so hard that the dog got up from his sleep and left the room. You are, by far, my favourite bright spot of the week. Thank you.
As someone who does modern Irish Dance, I learned, as a kid, that 'ghillies' are the black soft shoes girls wear. Now they are called 'pumps'. I can see a lot of similarities between your basic ghillie, the embossed shoe, and modern Irish ghillies. Thanks for the video!
ghillies are the shoes Scottish men wear with their dress kilts etc, sometimes plain but also sometimes decorated. Don't remember what we called the shoes when I was doing highland dancing though, same shoes as worn for Irish dancing, but you'd see the ghillies on the men at the Scottish country dances I attended each week.
When I work with leather, I usually use two needles instead om going over one seam twice, if you do that you can tighten every seam when you make it. I've had great success sewing like that
Also the most basic shoes - the "footbags" - really look like the booties our shearer wears to keep from damaging the fleece while shearing since Icelandic wool felts very easily.
The Shan't popping up on screen got to me. I laughed so hard I disturbed my cat who was in my lap having a nap. Thank you for both the amusement and the information.
You have no idea how happy it makes me to see the textile impressions in those shoes! I'm an archaeology student in another part of the world where there are frustratingly few textile finds (who has, against all reason, decided to specialize in textiles) and we generally have to rely on textile and cordage impressions used to decorate ceramics for analysis. I wonder if the impressions on your shoes are clear enough to tell whether the final ply of the yarn used was S-twist or Z-twist? If so, I bet it would be a fun experiment to compare them with nalbinding impressions from the archaeological record!
@@TheWelshViking For ceramic impressions you use non-drying modeling clay to create a negative impression, which results in a positive cast of the original cordage (so S-twist on the cast means the cordage was S-twist, etc). I'm not sure if the same technique would work on leather, since the impressions wouldn't be as deep, but it might be worth a shot if you have scuply on hand!
buckets-of-dirt silly putty also takes really good impressions, I think, but chemically speaking, I’m not sure if it would be compatible with archaeology 😂
If your mock-up looks like crap, make another one. Excellent advice for most things. Was another piece of leather ever sewn onto the bottom to add strength or durability? Very interesting video. I have some fairly large leather scraps downstairs, I may need to try something like this, if only to make myself a pair of Hausschuhe. Thanks for sharing. Take care.
Big old clumps of leather were used all the time to resole and repair shoes, but I’m not sure about having a one-piece shoe with a kind of added sole. Good one to dig into!
Thank you for sharing! The reason we don't have many northern European finds as my ancient history teacher told me is because wet damp areas destroy archeological areas. The only reason we know so much about Egyptians is only because the dry sand perserves archeological stuff better. Horray for: illustrations, tapestries,stone carvings, metal, and bog bodies that survived ♥ !
That's partly true, in that water can destroy many artefacts, especially ferrous ones and organics in some contexts, but waterlogged sites are also excellent for the preservation of some organic materials. Take the Mary Rose as a good example. Leather and wood everywhere!
is there any evidence that they used a two needle on one thread technique it makes the stitching neater since you are using the one hole and making two stitches at the same
They certainly seem to have used either the same needle to re-work their seams, or two needles like you suggest, which is what I normally do. The wear patterns on their stitch holes seem to show that, in some cases at least.
The waxed linen thread makes a lot of sense. When you sew pointe shoe straps/ribbons you use dental floss because the wax protects it from shredding with the continued strain from use!
Love the shoes, planning on making my partner and my child each a pair of slippers for Yule and will be using some of this as inspiration. Love your little addition at the end.my coworker is currently questioning my sanity for how I laughed
Jimmy explaining stitching: "It looks like -- " Lucas Films logo. Me: Odd of Jimmy to be so specifically partisan, but this is a hell of a way to introduce a cut to a diagram! Yoda appears on screen. WTF? Me: Oh right! Welsh Viking got monetization status! ... Stupid ads that allow my favorite creators to at least break even, and hopefully make a living wage at some point. : )
As someone who's getting ready for Vikings season this year in Canada and the first year where I'll actually have a tent and everything else along with hopefully some shoes as soon as I can get some leather so thank you for showing me how to make shoes in a video that actually makes sense
I’m a professional shoemaker and pretty new to historical shoes. I think too often too professional and I’m surprised how easy shoes were made. Thanks for your research and this video. It was very informative! :)
Your "hot garbage" shoes are very inspiring and, as always, I appreciate the list of resources for further study. Do you plan on adding a strap to yours or just have the tongue loose? Also, the moldy boots look great for what they were pre-cleaning! That really sucks about the rust and rot
Inspiring video! Thank you! I recently watched a shoe-making video by Morgan Donner where she used boar hair instead of needles ("felting" the threads to them on both ends) in order to not get the bulky section of the needle eye with the double-layered thread. It also facilitated to work the holes from both sides at the same time using only one thread. I don't know if this technique dates back to the Viking period, though.
Thanks, this was really interesting. Only shoe making experience I've had was helping out for a couple days in Colonial Williamsburg. Wasn't terribly good at it, and was demoted to stitch work on corsets, lol. The shoes you made were great, and in case of zombie apocalypse, I now know how to make a simple, totally effective shoe. Thanks again!
In terms of shoe making similar to this kind surviving into more recent times have a peak at the pampooties made by the islanders on the west coast of Ireland up to at least the 1960s. Also, bog FTW for anaerobic preservation!
I cam here to gauge how hard it would be to make a better early period shoe for my garb, and I came away discovering that the spring boots I bought from the cheapo shoe store closeout a few years ago are almost exactly anglo-norse footwear by accident. :D That's one less thing I need to make myself! Thanks!
ive made 5 pairs of shoes 4 of which i am still using.... ironage, viking age shoes... my latest is a pair of ankle boots for a catelyn stark cosplay. And all of them are so comfortable. how ever I put sisal rope soles on the bottom of them as they are longer wearing and don't wear through. But thats me. I know its not fully accurate for viking age shoes but i like the added wear to the soles.... I use left over leather from an upholsterer. And they are all turn shoe style. Love making my own shoes.... I have known to wear them with my normal clothes too as everyone has their nose in their phones so much that people have no idea that you are wearing non modern shoes. lol
The museum of archaeology is like my favourite place ever. I spent probably a worrying amount of time in there staring at the bog bodies as a kid :D. It really is an awesome visit though if anyone is visiting Dublin in more normal times, and the pre-christian gold is incredible
thanks for the video, it was very interesting! I tried making a pair of 14th century shoes this summer and they have... some issues. I wasn't clear on how much seam allowance was needed, so I added way too much, and so the shoes are a bit big. However, I was quite pleased at how fast they were to make. A note on the video - I would have liked to see you put the shoes on your feet, even just a picture to see how they fit. Maybe you could post a picture to instagram? And I look forward to a review to see how they wear over a few months.
What a great video! I did some googling and have cut out my first mock-up in cotton batting and it was a bit big but the next iteration should be spot on. My leather is about the same thickness as yours and so when I find my last (made ages ago from wood) I’ll be stitching up a pair. They’ll be great for this Viking cooking competition I’m going to attend in Lithuania this summer. Thank you SO much for the inspiration.
I made two pairs of those pampooties (whatever they're called) when I was 17! They were amazing. I mean made with bad modern leatherlike and all, but I wore them to a presentation I had to do with a friend (who the second pair was for) in high school. About like historical clothing and we wore cloaks with pennanular brooches and stuff. It was more about shape than material I'll admit. I should see if I still have them somewhere
Hi Jimmy! Thankyou for all your videos, your work is entertaining and informative. If you fancy an easy leatherworking tool, using a piece of shaped antler tip makes for a good leatherworking scribe to put lines into your work, enabling you to build up patterns (also useful for burnishing woodwork, eg a spoon when carved green).
If needed, you can easily add arch support inserts. Either loose or cemented in as necessary. Also, if dealing with sharp gravel, an extra layer of leather glued in will help protect your feet. Neither of these will show so will pass the inspectors.
first time ive seen your channel, while researching basic leatherworking and shoemaking. loved this video and your channel looks great. keyed up several other interesting videos to check out.
I’m still using my first set of shoes, made back in 2016 (being disabled I don’t walk all that much) and they are definitely “hot garbage” 🤣 another awesome video!
Great - now I need to either wait patiently for next years lambs to sell (if any sell for meat and not breeding) which I am NOT good at or see if our friends have any hides they tanned without fleece on. You are a bad influence (please note that is absolute sarcasm)! Also wanted to add - I had been wondering for a few months after watching a few other shoe videos that didn't mention type of leather if we could use our sheep after harvesting. Thank you for answering that question right off the bat.
Thy can be absolutely lethal on some surfaces. Grassy slopes are tough! But then, that’s why a motte and bailey was so effective! They may have scored their soles for added grip, but we’ve little evidence of it.
@@TheWelshViking Thank you for the answer! What is motte and bailey? English is not my first language (it is actually Swedish and I am really amused that it is called nalbinding and not needle binding in English, as nålbindning is a Swedish word) and the translation program is not giving me a useful translation of motte and bailey.
Ah sorry! It’s a classic medieval defensive building. The motte is a steep, artificial hill, the bailey is a castle on top of it. Yes, “motte och bailey” isn’t useful!
its awsome that you are preserving the welsh tungumal from a lover of the icelandic tungumál and folkið. we that speak smaller languages have a goal that is as noble as the bigger ones
Interesting video, I hadn't run into your channel before and I've subscribed. Baile Átha Cliath is roughly pronounced: Baile = Bal-yeh Átha= Awe-hah (that accent over the 'a' is called a fada, and means you lengthen that vowel) Cliath= Clee-ah
The leather working videos I’ve watched (thanks RUclips algorithm and my own distractability) show them running both laces through in opposite directions at the same time as they sew. Having never worked with leather at all myself, I don’t know if that would help the evenness of the stitching, but it might help? Anyway, yours, even your first one, look a lot better than anything I could come up with, so kudos to you. I especially like the embossing on the leather. It looks great!
Krpce, for the Czech word for the most basic gathered-leather shoe. :-) (You may have trouble pronouncing that one correctly since Czech has syllabic R.) I have a professionally made pair to go with Moravian Wallachian folk costume. Thicker leather - I understand originally they were made of pig hide.
They must have been popular. Parts of Irish shoes turned up in an 8th century well in the Frisian terp-village of Westergo, the Netherlands. Frisian sailors/traders came almost everywhere and had noses for fashion, slaves and fancy shoes included.
I love the Jimmy commentaries, both filming and editing Jimmies! Highlight of this one is the Shan't! :) It suddenly occurred to me when you were talking of gendering that a lovely pair of red shoes would be fab. What colors did leather get tanned/dyed in during the Viking periods? You have mentioned you would experiment with natural fabric dying, would you mind chatting with us about the range of colors other materials were made in? Also decorations? Gold and presumably silver for metals, but what about carved wood. Would the wood (haha) be painted? Were things like coral and mother of pearl inlaid? This is at least three videos worth of questions I suspect, but I always appreciate your thorough research and matter of fact delivery of the evidence! :)
I just picked up Butterick pattern 5233, a selection of historical shoe patterns (Black Friday 30% off) and hope to work on a pair soon. Your instructions are invaluable however, as there is nothing like seeing you working on the shoes in this age of no in person classes and I love that you show your "hot garbage" as well since so many u-tubers edit and cut and edit until you only see perfection every step of the way. It can be so discouraging.
My current viking/early medieval shoe is the vlaardingen shoe, I like how it is decorated with two strips of slik ran through the brim of the shoe. and tightened with a strap. it is just a slipper though, and not very good for winter wear, so i want to make turn shoe boots like the irish and scottish ones you showed.
Made exactly one pair of turn shoes, it was fun project from a SCA class. Its the pattern that looks more like the viking boots that could have toggles on the outside ankle. I haven't worn them since making and still need to figure out toggles that look nice yet. Hoping to make an apron dress and under tunic to go with the shoes.
Hey, don't know if anyone else has mentioned this in the comments but as opposed to pulling your thread as hard as you can, pull it hard but fast, it heats the wax up and adds to the waterproofing as the wax resolidifies with the hole it's threaded through and is pretty much as effective as pulling very hard and you're less likely to hurt yourself. It also stretched the leather less making the stitch holes smaller. Also, the smaller your stitches the straighter the seam.
I like Vikings really bad, and somehow i stumbled over your channel, since then I’m enjoying your videos so much 😂🙏🏽 Keep up the great content and humor 🤞🏽
The problem I have with all shoes template is how to make the right proportion between the sole and the upper...I mean, I have a 42 size foot (im Italian by the way, so sorry for my english) how do I do the math for the upper? How do I mesure it? Are there any kind of pc programs for enlarge a shoe templete such as this to fit a 42 size sole? Thank you all for the answers
I would suggest using a saddle stitch instead of the double running stitch. It's basically the same, but you use two needles and make both runs at the same time. The biggest benifit is it looks better, and you can do a knot in each stitch that prevents the whole seam from splitting if the thread breaks somewhere. Also consider using pitch instead of wax on the thread.
really cool detail about the sock impression! I would say you could almost recognise the nalbinding stitch (york?) from those marks. Do you know of any specific finds that have these?
Possibly a silly question but: I suffer from lymphoedemia and was intending to ask a cordwainer in Dublin to make me a pair of shoes that will fit me properly and fasten (vitally important when getting on and off trains or buses). Does anyone know if this style of shoe (knew I'd seen a video on them somewhere but it's taken me weeks to find exactly who posted it originally because I'd forgotten) would also work with something like a 1" - 1.5" wedge heel (can't go flat comfortably) and a cross bar fastening. I liked the style the first time I saw this video, it's much nicer than many - most - of the other mediaeval/viking shoes that can be found on RUclips, and it's Irish which fits with living in Dublin. But this is a lovely shoe to look at and it also looks very comfortable to wear, even in modern times. Just not sure about whether a heel would work, and I need the slight platform heel. Also, the Irish/Norwegian boots you show, do they fasten with laces at the front or side because a style like this would be ideal for winter. Again made by a professional. Any advice would be gratefully received. Many thanks and a great video as always.
Hi - if you sew with two needles with a needle either end of the thread (and you can double the thread too) - that is Tunnel stitching. I would also suggest that you get some nice flexible Calf Skin at least 3mm thick for your next attempt. Similar to how you might make a Roman single layer thickness sandal. It will sew up more successfully too with thicker leather. That will add some decent thickness under the sole of your foot. Also, tack sew your shoe pattern together to start with with single knots in key spots. Remove them as you go along. I would never suggest they were waterproof. They keep the worst of the grit and mud out. Dampness will creep through. Interestingly, in an emergency, you can wear your pampootie around your other shoe rather like a galosher especially if a line of sewing has burst... Iron corrosion and leather 'kills' the leather. It will just harden and snap bits off.
Oh man! Did you make your own nålebinding socks? Would love to see those. Also I think I might make some of the foot bags (pampooties?) to go over my pretty shoes.
I found this very interesting. One area I'm curious about and would love to look more into one of these days is more about the tools they used. Did they use lasts? If so, what did they look like? What other tools do we know they used for making such shoes? I really want to make a pair of those... what did you call them? Pamputees? I've been afraid of making shoes, but I think that is totally doable! Maybe it will give me the confidence to move on to something nicer. That brings up something else I want to research. What colors they would have died, and how? Could I dye my pamputees a good purple? Man you are giving me lots of things to look into. Thanks for that. It is a little overwhelming sometimes when I watch something and come up with 100000 more questions, but I'm serious, thanks! I may not look into all of it anytime soon, but if I look into just ONE things, then its awesome!
You might think the new shoes are hot garbage, but I think they look awesome!! You’ve got me beat as I haven’t made any shoes. XD I’m probably a looooong way away from making historical reproduction turnshoes, but I am planning on making some more modern shoes for wearing around the house (especially for winter!) Since there doesn’t seem to be holes in the sides, what about ties going through the tongue, then wrapped around the ankle to secure it? Just speculating! lol
Very similar shoes are made to this day all over eastern Europe, from Sapmi down to Bulgaria and Macedonia, and even parts of Italy. They vary in shape and detail, but the basic idea is the same.
The new shoes are awesome but the old are pretty cool, too. When I'm making things, I like to think of any evidence of my learning experiences as hand-distressing or built-in character embellishments. No matter how many re-enactors kick off their home-made shoes at the end of the day, you'll always know which pair is yours.
Shoes are next on my list. Spent way too much over 2 days at the Jorvik festival on fabric and pretty shiny things. Oh and mead 🤣🤣 Didn't spot you unfortunately. Hope you had a great time and not too many bruises.
Do you have any tips for fighting in historical shoes and not slipping as much? I cheated on mine and took them to a shoemaker who glued a super thin rubber sole on the bottom, that can’t be seen unless i show the bottom of my shoes. I use them for larp so no one is bothered but I’m curious what ideas you have as a reenactor.
You forgot "skor".... Then again, Hershey's did too, and called their toffee bars "shoes" instead of "brittle", which I am assuming makes more sense for a hard sweet haha..... Anyway, good video on the shoes!
Sophia Neilsson I’m eating “shoes” today! 😂 (not really, but I’m gonna think of that the next time I get a Skor bar. Of course, I only eat them about once a year or so, so it might be a while.
@@merindymorgenson3184 I love them haha! But it is baffling, cos O is to Ö how E is to F, imo: only takes a wee dot or line to change the meaning completely
Wa-ha-ha ha!!! I used to have a pair of sliced pampooties! I loved them sooooo. They were lovely grey leather, -- sniff -- and one day, one of my dogs ate one of my shoes. "SOB"
I grew up in a Cree community in Canada and learned to make moccasins in school. I made a couple of notes while watching your video and maybe they might be helpful? Obviously, I cannot compare moccasins directly to Medieval Irish shoes but I noticed some things that deviated from the pattern/diagram you showed. First, for your mock-up, use a felted wool about the thickness of the leather you intend to use - it behaves more like leather and you can quickly baste it together to get an accurate fit. One important thing that I noticed is that your side seams are a bit low - almost as low as a welt on more modern shoes. Based on the pattern you showed, the top surface of the shoe should be cut smaller and the bottom pieces larger so that the bottom bit curves up the sides of your foot gradually falling down towards the toe. It is my understanding from making moccasins that raising the seam is important for less leaks while walking in mud and water, for wear (less strain on the seams) and for comfort so that you don't feel the seams as much as your feet flatten side to side when your weight is on one foot. Sorry if this has been obnoxious! What a cool project and what a wonderful way to learn more about Medieval foot bags, eh?
That all makes a ton of sense. I actually noticed the deviation from the pattern only as I was editing the video and yes, making the top smaller and the lower part makes a lot of sense.
Felt is a great shout, thank you for that! I just so happen to have some 1.5mm felt to hand, so I’ll be using that!
Thanks so much for your input, and for teaching me based on your cultural knowledge. How wonderful to be given lessons on this growing up, as well. That’s well good!
Oh! I wanted to ask if I may, about what thickness of hide do you use to make your moccasins?
@@TheWelshViking I'm glad that was useful! I am forever grateful for the experiences I had while growing up (as a guest in the community). The Cree are truly so creative and skilled. As for the thickness of the hide, I can't really say. Moccasins are often made of hand-prepared smoked moose hide so I can't advise you on that at the moment. But I can check!
@@TheWelshViking Ok I just measured the thickness of the hide on a pair I have and it is 2mm thick.
Wow, Brendan, great advise. I was just about to make a mock up for my first attempt and am on the lookout for felted wool. Thanks so much for the sizing and seam placement info, too. Do you have your own RUclips videos? I would totally watch you make your mocs. Cheers from Vancouver. :)
In Morgan Donner's shoe making video, she used a peice of wood to roll up the thread and tighten it. Saves the fingers!
Footbags is a new shoe description I look forward to seeing on Clarke's advertising.
No footbags, no shirt, no service.
HK47: Here are some footbags for the fleshbag
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My father was born in 1897 in Denmark. (Not so impossible, he was 52 when I showed up). They spun, wove, knit, tanned - basically, could make just about anything needed for food, clothing, furniture. I remember him telling me that nails were expensive - so the "old folks" always used wooden pegs. He was put to making pegs as a little kid. Starting with big ones for construction, working his way down to teeny ones for shoes or boots. Haven't thought of that for years ! I think wooden pegs in leather would be very efficient. Choose correct type of wood.
Remember when it didn't matter which foot you put the shoe on ?
First we have Rachel Maksy with meatbags. Now we have footbags. I love costubers and their way with words. :)
Wait until you hear of the Tuttenseck (= tit bags).
Never Trust Editing Jimmy... I appreciate editing Jimmy Greatly. Glad to see i'm not alone in talking to items that arn't co-operating.
Thank you for emphasising the differing pronounciations of gaelic. Tapadh Leat. Brogan Math.
Oh my giddy aunt! They have sock puppets so why not a shoe puppet? I was laughing so hard that the dog got up from his sleep and left the room. You are, by far, my favourite bright spot of the week. Thank you.
Well here in Argentina I've known a guy who made puppets out of old dress shoes
Attack of the shoooe!
As someone who does modern Irish Dance, I learned, as a kid, that 'ghillies' are the black soft shoes girls wear. Now they are called 'pumps'. I can see a lot of similarities between your basic ghillie, the embossed shoe, and modern Irish ghillies. Thanks for the video!
ghillies are the shoes Scottish men wear with their dress kilts etc, sometimes plain but also sometimes decorated.
Don't remember what we called the shoes when I was doing highland dancing though, same shoes as worn for Irish dancing, but you'd see the ghillies on the men at the Scottish country dances I attended each week.
Ghillies are what I wore when I need privacy.
Ghillie is from Gaelic giolla 'servant' and makes no sense in regards to shoes.
@@cooldaddy2877 Please feel free to go tell that to CLRG.
When I work with leather, I usually use two needles instead om going over one seam twice, if you do that you can tighten every seam when you make it.
I've had great success sewing like that
Also the most basic shoes - the "footbags" - really look like the booties our shearer wears to keep from damaging the fleece while shearing since Icelandic wool felts very easily.
The Shan't popping up on screen got to me. I laughed so hard I disturbed my cat who was in my lap having a nap.
Thank you for both the amusement and the information.
You have no idea how happy it makes me to see the textile impressions in those shoes! I'm an archaeology student in another part of the world where there are frustratingly few textile finds (who has, against all reason, decided to specialize in textiles) and we generally have to rely on textile and cordage impressions used to decorate ceramics for analysis. I wonder if the impressions on your shoes are clear enough to tell whether the final ply of the yarn used was S-twist or Z-twist? If so, I bet it would be a fun experiment to compare them with nalbinding impressions from the archaeological record!
I don’t have the kit to tell if the ply is visible, but I’m 110% up for finding out! This would be a glorious little research project!
@@TheWelshViking For ceramic impressions you use non-drying modeling clay to create a negative impression, which results in a positive cast of the original cordage (so S-twist on the cast means the cordage was S-twist, etc). I'm not sure if the same technique would work on leather, since the impressions wouldn't be as deep, but it might be worth a shot if you have scuply on hand!
buckets-of-dirt silly putty also takes really good impressions, I think, but chemically speaking, I’m not sure if it would be compatible with archaeology 😂
@@merindymorgenson3184 haha... had the same idea about the silly putty.
Editing Jimmy is such a scamp! Loved the video. True story, when my cat heard you speaking Welsh, she turned her head and listened.😊
Cats are magic and can speak old tongues! I knew it!
2020: make whatever damn shoe you like.
this seems to encapsulate many people's COVID journeys pretty nicely, tbh
Begginer level: bread. Second level: a simple 2 piece garment. Level 5: shoes 😅
If your mock-up looks like crap, make another one. Excellent advice for most things. Was another piece of leather ever sewn onto the bottom to add strength or durability? Very interesting video. I have some fairly large leather scraps downstairs, I may need to try something like this, if only to make myself a pair of Hausschuhe. Thanks for sharing. Take care.
Big old clumps of leather were used all the time to resole and repair shoes, but I’m not sure about having a one-piece shoe with a kind of added sole. Good one to dig into!
If the Welsh haven't suffered enough they don't even get their own medieval shoes. Awesome video! I'm going to try out making my own shoes.
Thank you for sharing! The reason we don't have many northern European finds as my ancient history teacher told me is because wet damp areas destroy archeological areas. The only reason we know so much about Egyptians is only because the dry sand perserves archeological stuff better. Horray for: illustrations, tapestries,stone carvings, metal, and bog bodies that survived ♥ !
That's partly true, in that water can destroy many artefacts, especially ferrous ones and organics in some contexts, but waterlogged sites are also excellent for the preservation of some organic materials. Take the Mary Rose as a good example. Leather and wood everywhere!
is there any evidence that they used a two needle on one thread technique it makes the stitching neater since you are using the one hole and making two stitches at the same
They certainly seem to have used either the same needle to re-work their seams, or two needles like you suggest, which is what I normally do. The wear patterns on their stitch holes seem to show that, in some cases at least.
Saddle stitching (two needles crossing back and forth through the same holes) is still _the_ way to make a strong seam In leatherwork.
That’s the way I was taught when I took a class ages ago. It works great and you only have to go through it one time, tightening as you go.
Shoe making is one of my secret passions, so I really appreciate this video in that regard!
Once again, we love Editing Jimmy's moxy!
The waxed linen thread makes a lot of sense. When you sew pointe shoe straps/ribbons you use dental floss because the wax protects it from shredding with the continued strain from use!
Love the shoes, planning on making my partner and my child each a pair of slippers for Yule and will be using some of this as inspiration.
Love your little addition at the end.my coworker is currently questioning my sanity for how I laughed
Jimmy explaining stitching: "It looks like -- "
Lucas Films logo.
Me: Odd of Jimmy to be so specifically partisan, but this is a hell of a way to introduce a cut to a diagram!
Yoda appears on screen.
WTF?
Me: Oh right! Welsh Viking got monetization status!
... Stupid ads that allow my favorite creators to at least break even, and hopefully make a living wage at some point. : )
I would have preferred yoda I got Kotex and was very confused
@@LadyNightshade LMAO!
I once got an ad on IG for face masks which showed a pic of tampons. Uhhhhh....
Editing Jimmy, thank you for letting us see the person behind the curtain.
Thank you for making these videos.
As someone who's getting ready for Vikings season this year in Canada and the first year where I'll actually have a tent and everything else along with hopefully some shoes as soon as I can get some leather so thank you for showing me how to make shoes in a video that actually makes sense
I’m a professional shoemaker and pretty new to historical shoes. I think too often too professional and I’m surprised how easy shoes were made. Thanks for your research and this video. It was very informative! :)
What I'm hearing is that the Irish, unlike others of the era, made their shoes to last. As someone Irish, that tracks for me. :D
Your "hot garbage" shoes are very inspiring and, as always, I appreciate the list of resources for further study. Do you plan on adding a strap to yours or just have the tongue loose?
Also, the moldy boots look great for what they were pre-cleaning! That really sucks about the rust and rot
As the video was rendering I was heard to cry “bollocks, I forgot to put the bloody cross straps on!”.
@@TheWelshViking To quote Pooh Bear, "Oh bother"
Inspiring video! Thank you!
I recently watched a shoe-making video by Morgan Donner where she used boar hair instead of needles ("felting" the threads to them on both ends) in order to not get the bulky section of the needle eye with the double-layered thread. It also facilitated to work the holes from both sides at the same time using only one thread.
I don't know if this technique dates back to the Viking period, though.
Thanks, this was really interesting. Only shoe making experience I've had was helping out for a couple days in Colonial Williamsburg. Wasn't terribly good at it, and was demoted to stitch work on corsets, lol. The shoes you made were great, and in case of zombie apocalypse, I now know how to make a simple, totally effective shoe. Thanks again!
In terms of shoe making similar to this kind surviving into more recent times have a peak at the pampooties made by the islanders on the west coast of Ireland up to at least the 1960s. Also, bog FTW for anaerobic preservation!
I mention the pampooties in the video! They’re amazing pieces of kit!
Bogs are best.
Bogs are friends.
They preserve your best impression :o
I cam here to gauge how hard it would be to make a better early period shoe for my garb, and I came away discovering that the spring boots I bought from the cheapo shoe store closeout a few years ago are almost exactly anglo-norse footwear by accident. :D That's one less thing I need to make myself! Thanks!
I love that style and the decoration is lovely! I really didn't need a new project, but I may have found one anyway.
I was thinking, for thickness, strength and maybe warmth. Maybe two turn out shoes could of been worn together. Smaller fitted one then an outer one.
ive made 5 pairs of shoes 4 of which i am still using.... ironage, viking age shoes... my latest is a pair of ankle boots for a catelyn stark cosplay. And all of them are so comfortable. how ever I put sisal rope soles on the bottom of them as they are longer wearing and don't wear through. But thats me. I know its not fully accurate for viking age shoes but i like the added wear to the soles.... I use left over leather from an upholsterer. And they are all turn shoe style. Love making my own shoes.... I have known to wear them with my normal clothes too as everyone has their nose in their phones so much that people have no idea that you are wearing non modern shoes. lol
Cool. I just made some turnshoes with the little strap on top. They came out way big but they're nice. Thanks for the tips
On to my second pair.
The museum of archaeology is like my favourite place ever. I spent probably a worrying amount of time in there staring at the bog bodies as a kid :D. It really is an awesome visit though if anyone is visiting Dublin in more normal times, and the pre-christian gold is incredible
thanks for the video, it was very interesting! I tried making a pair of 14th century shoes this summer and they have... some issues. I wasn't clear on how much seam allowance was needed, so I added way too much, and so the shoes are a bit big. However, I was quite pleased at how fast they were to make. A note on the video - I would have liked to see you put the shoes on your feet, even just a picture to see how they fit. Maybe you could post a picture to instagram? And I look forward to a review to see how they wear over a few months.
"is shoe" it definately is. Fab video as always!
What a great video! I did some googling and have cut out my first mock-up in cotton batting and it was a bit big but the next iteration should be spot on. My leather is about the same thickness as yours and so when I find my last (made ages ago from wood) I’ll be stitching up a pair. They’ll be great for this Viking cooking competition I’m going to attend in Lithuania this summer. Thank you SO much for the inspiration.
Well, now I know what I'd like to make this winter!
I made two pairs of those pampooties (whatever they're called) when I was 17! They were amazing. I mean made with bad modern leatherlike and all, but I wore them to a presentation I had to do with a friend (who the second pair was for) in high school. About like historical clothing and we wore cloaks with pennanular brooches and stuff. It was more about shape than material I'll admit. I should see if I still have them somewhere
Hi Jimmy! Thankyou for all your videos, your work is entertaining and informative. If you fancy an easy leatherworking tool, using a piece of shaped antler tip makes for a good leatherworking scribe to put lines into your work, enabling you to build up patterns (also useful for burnishing woodwork, eg a spoon when carved green).
If needed, you can easily add arch support inserts. Either loose or cemented in as necessary. Also, if dealing with sharp gravel, an extra layer of leather glued in will help protect your feet. Neither of these will show so will pass the inspectors.
How cool! I want to make my own shoes now! I would have loved to see how they look on feet and such. Give them some life and all that.
first time ive seen your channel, while researching basic leatherworking and shoemaking. loved this video and your channel looks great. keyed up several other interesting videos to check out.
I’m still using my first set of shoes, made back in 2016 (being disabled I don’t walk all that much) and they are definitely “hot garbage” 🤣 another awesome video!
Great - now I need to either wait patiently for next years lambs to sell (if any sell for meat and not breeding) which I am NOT good at or see if our friends have any hides they tanned without fleece on. You are a bad influence (please note that is absolute sarcasm)!
Also wanted to add - I had been wondering for a few months after watching a few other shoe videos that didn't mention type of leather if we could use our sheep after harvesting. Thank you for answering that question right off the bat.
I have wondered if leather shoes are slippery as they are flat underneath? Especially on wet grass and similar slippery surfaces.
Thy can be absolutely lethal on some surfaces. Grassy slopes are tough!
But then, that’s why a motte and bailey was so effective! They may have scored their soles for added grip, but we’ve little evidence of it.
@@TheWelshViking Thank you for the answer! What is motte and bailey? English is not my first language (it is actually Swedish and I am really amused that it is called nalbinding and not needle binding in English, as nålbindning is a Swedish word) and the translation program is not giving me a useful translation of motte and bailey.
Ah sorry! It’s a classic medieval defensive building. The motte is a steep, artificial hill, the bailey is a castle on top of it.
Yes, “motte och bailey” isn’t useful!
Awww yeah!!! New content from Jimmy!! Thanks as always!!
Aww, and thank you too!
its awsome that you are preserving the welsh tungumal from a lover of the icelandic tungumál and folkið. we that speak smaller languages have a goal that is as noble as the bigger ones
Interesting video, I hadn't run into your channel before and I've subscribed. Baile Átha Cliath is roughly pronounced:
Baile = Bal-yeh
Átha= Awe-hah (that accent over the 'a' is called a fada, and means you lengthen that vowel)
Cliath= Clee-ah
Ah that’s great. Thank you! I’m ok with Gàidhlig but Gaeilge pronunciation is still a bit of a mystery!
Fascinating stuff. I hope they work well for you!
The leather working videos I’ve watched (thanks RUclips algorithm and my own distractability) show them running both laces through in opposite directions at the same time as they sew. Having never worked with leather at all myself, I don’t know if that would help the evenness of the stitching, but it might help?
Anyway, yours, even your first one, look a lot better than anything I could come up with, so kudos to you. I especially like the embossing on the leather. It looks great!
Kengät, in case you're after another word to add to your shoe-lexicon. Or skor, if you wanna go for the Swedish version :)
Krpce, for the Czech word for the most basic gathered-leather shoe. :-) (You may have trouble pronouncing that one correctly since Czech has syllabic R.) I have a professionally made pair to go with Moravian Wallachian folk costume. Thicker leather - I understand originally they were made of pig hide.
They must have been popular. Parts of Irish shoes turned up in an 8th century well in the Frisian terp-village of Westergo, the Netherlands. Frisian sailors/traders came almost everywhere and had noses for fashion, slaves and fancy shoes included.
Reminds me of my G-ma sewing slippers for grandchildren's' Christmas presents.
I love the Jimmy commentaries, both filming and editing Jimmies! Highlight of this one is the Shan't! :)
It suddenly occurred to me when you were talking of gendering that a lovely pair of red shoes would be fab. What colors did leather get tanned/dyed in during the Viking periods? You have mentioned you would experiment with natural fabric dying, would you mind chatting with us about the range of colors other materials were made in? Also decorations? Gold and presumably silver for metals, but what about carved wood. Would the wood (haha) be painted? Were things like coral and mother of pearl inlaid? This is at least three videos worth of questions I suspect, but I always appreciate your thorough research and matter of fact delivery of the evidence! :)
I just picked up Butterick pattern 5233, a selection of historical shoe patterns (Black Friday 30% off) and hope to work on a pair soon. Your instructions are invaluable however, as there is nothing like seeing you working on the shoes in this age of no in person classes and I love that you show your "hot garbage" as well since so many u-tubers edit and cut and edit until you only see perfection every step of the way. It can be so discouraging.
Brill shoes 👏👏. Your inspiring me to have a go. Thanks 🌼
My current viking/early medieval shoe is the vlaardingen shoe, I like how it is decorated with two strips of slik ran through the brim of the shoe. and tightened with a strap. it is just a slipper though, and not very good for winter wear, so i want to make turn shoe boots like the irish and scottish ones you showed.
Made exactly one pair of turn shoes, it was fun project from a SCA class. Its the pattern that looks more like the viking boots that could have toggles on the outside ankle. I haven't worn them since making and still need to figure out toggles that look nice yet. Hoping to make an apron dress and under tunic to go with the shoes.
Editing Jimmy is a snarky bastard - exactly my kind of guy. 😂
Hey, don't know if anyone else has mentioned this in the comments but as opposed to pulling your thread as hard as you can, pull it hard but fast, it heats the wax up and adds to the waterproofing as the wax resolidifies with the hole it's threaded through and is pretty much as effective as pulling very hard and you're less likely to hurt yourself. It also stretched the leather less making the stitch holes smaller.
Also, the smaller your stitches the straighter the seam.
Did the vamp line serve a purpose structurally, or just decorative?
I like Vikings really bad, and somehow i stumbled over your channel, since then I’m enjoying your videos so much 😂🙏🏽
Keep up the great content and humor 🤞🏽
The problem I have with all shoes template is how to make the right proportion between the sole and the upper...I mean, I have a 42 size foot (im Italian by the way, so sorry for my english) how do I do the math for the upper? How do I mesure it? Are there any kind of pc programs for enlarge a shoe templete such as this to fit a 42 size sole? Thank you all for the answers
I would suggest using a saddle stitch instead of the double running stitch. It's basically the same, but you use two needles and make both runs at the same time. The biggest benifit is it looks better, and you can do a knot in each stitch that prevents the whole seam from splitting if the thread breaks somewhere. Also consider using pitch instead of wax on the thread.
really cool detail about the sock impression! I would say you could almost recognise the nalbinding stitch (york?) from those marks. Do you know of any specific finds that have these?
Possibly a silly question but:
I suffer from lymphoedemia and was intending to ask a cordwainer in Dublin to make me a pair of shoes that will fit me properly and fasten (vitally important when getting on and off trains or buses). Does anyone know if this style of shoe (knew I'd seen a video on them somewhere but it's taken me weeks to find exactly who posted it originally because I'd forgotten) would also work with something like a 1" - 1.5" wedge heel (can't go flat comfortably) and a cross bar fastening. I liked the style the first time I saw this video, it's much nicer than many - most - of the other mediaeval/viking shoes that can be found on RUclips, and it's Irish which fits with living in Dublin. But this is a lovely shoe to look at and it also looks very comfortable to wear, even in modern times. Just not sure about whether a heel would work, and I need the slight platform heel.
Also, the Irish/Norwegian boots you show, do they fasten with laces at the front or side because a style like this would be ideal for winter. Again made by a professional.
Any advice would be gratefully received. Many thanks and a great video as always.
Hi - if you sew with two needles with a needle either end of the thread (and you can double the thread too) - that is Tunnel stitching. I would also suggest that you get some nice flexible Calf Skin at least 3mm thick for your next attempt. Similar to how you might make a Roman single layer thickness sandal. It will sew up more successfully too with thicker leather. That will add some decent thickness under the sole of your foot.
Also, tack sew your shoe pattern together to start with with single knots in key spots. Remove them as you go along.
I would never suggest they were waterproof. They keep the worst of the grit and mud out. Dampness will creep through.
Interestingly, in an emergency, you can wear your pampootie around your other shoe rather like a galosher especially if a line of sewing has burst...
Iron corrosion and leather 'kills' the leather. It will just harden and snap bits off.
My teenage sister walked in while I was watching this video and went "can you make those for me?" so I know what my next project is!
I've been wanting to work with leather but it seems so hard! xD
You've definitely inspired me. I would have liked to see how they look on
Oh man! Did you make your own nålebinding socks? Would love to see those. Also I think I might make some of the foot bags (pampooties?) to go over my pretty shoes.
Sadly not, a friend of mine made them for me very kindly. But definitely make some foot bags!
@@TheWelshViking That's love.
Nalbound Socks are the devil to make I have made some, but lovely to wear
You indeed are a lucky man.
@@HosCreates They are superb things!
Thank you , I love this !
There is a resemblance between the pampooties and eastern woodland moccasins in North America.
Pretty good job Jimmy and fair research. Your brogus look crocodile fierce 😉💗🍁
Found you through Tasting History referencing you. So glad I looked you up!
I found this very interesting. One area I'm curious about and would love to look more into one of these days is more about the tools they used. Did they use lasts? If so, what did they look like? What other tools do we know they used for making such shoes?
I really want to make a pair of those... what did you call them? Pamputees? I've been afraid of making shoes, but I think that is totally doable! Maybe it will give me the confidence to move on to something nicer.
That brings up something else I want to research. What colors they would have died, and how? Could I dye my pamputees a good purple? Man you are giving me lots of things to look into. Thanks for that. It is a little overwhelming sometimes when I watch something and come up with 100000 more questions, but I'm serious, thanks! I may not look into all of it anytime soon, but if I look into just ONE things, then its awesome!
Well that sorts it. I’m going to see if my fiber working friend will trade a pair of nålbind socks for a pair of shoes!
Thanks Jimmy!❤️
Now I want to try and make my own ghillie dance shoes for myself
Awesome video!
Have you tried collaborating with Weaver Leathercraft for this kind of video?
Ngl had never heard of them before reading this!
Got a pattern how to for the socks you mentioned? Really liked your video
You might think the new shoes are hot garbage, but I think they look awesome!! You’ve got me beat as I haven’t made any shoes. XD I’m probably a looooong way away from making historical reproduction turnshoes, but I am planning on making some more modern shoes for wearing around the house (especially for winter!)
Since there doesn’t seem to be holes in the sides, what about ties going through the tongue, then wrapped around the ankle to secure it? Just speculating! lol
Very similar shoes are made to this day all over eastern Europe, from Sapmi down to Bulgaria and Macedonia, and even parts of Italy. They vary in shape and detail, but the basic idea is the same.
Did you use the running stitch because it was authentic to the piece or out of simplicity's sake?
Have you ever tried making or wearing bast shoes? Either alone or as overshoes?
U do good job bless 👍👏 jay
The new shoes are awesome but the old are pretty cool, too. When I'm making things, I like to think of any evidence of my learning experiences as hand-distressing or built-in character embellishments. No matter how many re-enactors kick off their home-made shoes at the end of the day, you'll always know which pair is yours.
Shoes are next on my list. Spent way too much over 2 days at the Jorvik festival on fabric and pretty shiny things. Oh and mead 🤣🤣
Didn't spot you unfortunately. Hope you had a great time and not too many bruises.
Busy as a bee! I meant to grab some shoes as well but didn't get round to it! Still here for a bit :)
Have fun :)
Love the outro ;) hope you are ok after that...
Thanks for a very informaive video!
Do you have any tips for fighting in historical shoes and not slipping as much? I cheated on mine and took them to a shoemaker who glued a super thin rubber sole on the bottom, that can’t be seen unless i show the bottom of my shoes. I use them for larp so no one is bothered but I’m curious what ideas you have as a reenactor.
Thank you for the video, I watched the video last night. So I had to make a pair of the pampaputis lol awesome shoe.
Thanks 😄
You forgot "skor".... Then again, Hershey's did too, and called their toffee bars "shoes" instead of "brittle", which I am assuming makes more sense for a hard sweet haha.....
Anyway, good video on the shoes!
Sophia Neilsson I’m eating “shoes” today! 😂 (not really, but I’m gonna think of that the next time I get a Skor bar. Of course, I only eat them about once a year or so, so it might be a while.
@@merindymorgenson3184 I love them haha! But it is baffling, cos O is to Ö how E is to F, imo: only takes a wee dot or line to change the meaning completely
wood pegs can be used instead of nails too.
I've been doing leatherwork for two years and I'm very intimidated by making shoes! Sir, you are brave.
Comprehensive! Thanks!!
Wa-ha-ha ha!!! I used to have a pair of sliced pampooties! I loved them sooooo. They were lovely grey leather, -- sniff -- and one day, one of my dogs ate one of my shoes. "SOB"
Just curious what microphone do you use, planning to buy one hopefully cheap. Also, nice video didn't know Norsemen decorated their shoes.