Bonus Unused Track! In a GT5 trailer for the Toyota FT-86 Concept they showed a mystery mountain course that was never seen again: ruclips.net/video/0yZXNRSsNWs/видео.html This track was most likely never meant to appear in the game anyway, but it’s still pretty interesting to see. It reminds a bit of Eiger Nordwand and looks like it would’ve been pretty fun to drive. Maybe it was unused course maker location, who knows? Something else interesting about this trailer is that the driver model is just a regular person - no helmet or racing suit - which is something that has never been seen in any Gran Turismo game ever.
Looks like the early version of Eiger Nordwand that was seen on early builds of GTHD premium. As a side note: the Ferrari California trailer has a unique stretch of mountain roads not seen anywhere else, some say its the Stelvio pass in italy @Roflwaffle16
Do you remember the town that the extended version of the london circuit took place? Really nice video btw. Edit: pls continue making these type of video, they're My favourates.
The Route X infield is the saddest missed opportunity to me. I’d love to see that track location be more than a glorified (but useful) speed test for my customized cars. Half pipe sections with the realistic physics would be so silly but so fun!
Those banked section have been driven in gt6 no collision data to drive up them but you can see how it has more details than the PS4 version ruclips.net/video/Y4m7wHbB_ck/видео.htmlsi=cWcISW6V2v9r-u54
Theres another hidden gt concept track that i love alot, and its SS_Snow Its literally just that one snowwy photomode location from gt4 but its an actual circuit which you can drive laps on meaning technically you could do a 24 hour race on it
During one of the world tour events in the GT Sport era, there was an onboard video from the Hungaroring. The actual point standing board was shown between races and beyond this board was this onboard video with dark blue lense in the background. I live 25 minutes from the Hungaroring, I go out literally every event. Once I told this to the headmarshall and he told me, yeah the gran turismo team has laser scanned the track already but they couldn't agree with the Hungaroring staff about the rights of the advertising boards so it will never going to be in the game. This conversation was in 2019.
boy do I feel silly only discovering this channel just the other day, big thanks from me also very much for all this great inspirational material and with such insight/quality - first class
When are we going to get the many secret videos of roflwaffle There's something interesting about Motegi South and that is the blue Griffith just sitting there on the track with its hood up. Always found it interesting why a blue Griffith and why does it have its hood up
GT Concept have a fair share of leftover tracks from GT3 including the SSR11, Test Course and Monte Carlo. Fun fact about the removed Siena kart track from GT5. The back box cover for the European version of GT5 still includes a screenshot of said track. Also, according to the 1609 QA build that was dumped online few years ago, Siena was meant to appear as the third event of The Grand Tour in Special events. The track itself doesn't load because it have been removed by then. In the final game, it's now a point to point race on Toscana.
I do miss Special Stages Route 5 & 11 from past games. Especially the original version of Route 11 from GT1. Sure, it was one of the hardest circuits on that game, but it felt super rewarding when you mastered it. Having both version on Gran Turismo 3 would have been cool
Heard that Polyphany tried to get Spa into GT2 but couldn't. One of the license test courses has a corner that strongly resembles Eau Rouge and Radillion.
Honestly, it shows how professional PD is and probably a bit of the Japanese mindset of trying to deliver, what is expected. I honestly liked what they prepared for GT5 and GT7, looking at the tunnel for example on the SS Route X or the stunt arena. They didn't want to bring the PS2 quality for the port tracks, which sadly killed them from appearing. I wish Gran Turismo would include a "Classic Mode", where you are able to drive on old tracks and maybe a fun / sandbox mode for stuff like the arena.
Please keep doing this! Gran Turismo is one of the best franchises to me, I played every single game since GT2 and I still love spending some time in GT7.
Would love SS11 to return in GT7. my god what a circuit the GT3 version was. I must of driven a good 1000 laps around it, especially in the Clio Cup and DTM Calibra. Also would love to see Route 246 back.
you missed the early version of the eiger nordwand road course seen in early builds of GTHD Concept, it has a much more technical layout and felt like a road rally stage ever more than its final version before it got changed into the final course design we all know also, regarding london, the track actually was confirmed to be the second "premium" track for the game alongside eiger back when GTHD was being planned to be a full game, it's very possible that an earlier design of london was planned just like the early design of eiger, but got scrapped and changed into the final smaller version we have now
Honestly, a lot of people hated the standard cars but I didn't mind that much. Maybe it helped that for some time I was playing on a CRT TV, so I couldn't see much of the bad graphics, plus the fact it was before I discovered I was starting to need glasses. I even experimented with replaying GT5 recently in 480p widescreen on my monitor, and thought it helped too with hiding the ugly. So for those tracks, looking back, especially as we would see some standard cars get improvements in GT6, it would have been really cool if we had standard tracks too. Just adapted a little better for the new game, like how on most of the tracks shadows from the scenery aren't cast on your car, since they were baked in, and on PS2 only programed to say how bright or dark your car was depending on where it was, the shadow wasn't too detailed. Shadows cast from cars also don't fade out on the scenery shadows. So if these tracks had shadows that worked like on PS2, just adjusting the brightness of the cars, and fading out the cast shadows, including the GT5 car shadows being cast on the car itself fading away, it could have worked. Well, at least as good as the standard cars did. I guess if we just had AI Upscaler software back then, maybe it would have been enough for them to decide on including them. Though I guess maybe they might have had to only have them in optional events, extra events, extra races for certain events, or just arcade, time trial and online, which some people could like.
For now, the SSRX infield is kinda revitalized in Assetto Corsa mods, so in case you kinda wanna know how it looks like Anyway, I kinda want to see, either the forest track in GT Sport, all those GT Arena secret layout, or even SSRX infield returned in GT as a track, or GT7 update. Would be kinda cool
Especially on the subject of GT Arena, I think it's mostly development constraints/timelines/licensing deals and the sort of stuff that makes game development so complicated at times. I don't really think it's any particularly malicious tease or anything, just, for example, screenshots from early dev stages before they tested stuff that didnt work or they wouldnt have time for. That said, loved the video as always
15:44 El Capitan if it were in *_Need For Speed_* or *_Ridge Racer._* Yeah, I went there. ... I'm impressed by just how much people have uncovered, really. Now imagine racing on Ridge Racer circuits with GT engine physics. Oh wait, has that been done already?
The only reason I can think of as to why PD put the screenshots of the track was as a cool easter egg, nothing more, nothing less. Devs love to leave little nods and treats for dedicated players combing through the game looking for details, and I don't doubt that PD are any different in that regard They've done this for years with things like the monkey and the Loch Ness monster on trial mountain, and more recently cows being abducted by aliens in GT7, screenshots hidden in plain sight is just an extension of that imo
I know way more about the secret cars than I do tracks, frankly because cars are way easier to remember. Not to mention text strings often refer to actual car models. Meanwhile secret track names could may as well be codenames for ones we actually got.
The first time I played GT5 was at my local target and I picked kart and I drove at the piazza it was so cool playing GT5 for the first time and in 2015 at the LA Auto show Hyundai had a time attack challenge with the Vision GT at Matterhorn
There's an unused kart track off the Turn 2 complex in High Speed Ring in GT7. You can drive it on a modded PS4, but it might be visible normally on replays.
The Seattle Circuit would be awesome, city track like Special Stage Route 5 & 11 namely all of them, but for the next update for GT7 and the next is a huge abysmal all they ever put in the game is new cars nothing more that's sad yo that ain't gonna get tears out and you that's how pathetic that notion is.
Happy belated Saint Patrick's Day and happy Easter! Glad to see you again. Still think you need to start an ASMR channel based on engine and exhaust notes!
Amazing to think that with all these cool unused tracks and cars in its past history, GT7 and Polyphony is still foing bare bones for new content ideas. Bruh just go back to the past we'll eat up the old stuff no prob.
Yeah, honestly this just makes me annoyed with PD more than anything. Their insistence on doing far less content because they hold themselves to a standard so high that most players don't even notice the details they're putting in leads to objectively worse games.
Gt7 is by far the biggest let down as far as tracks. What is the purpose of having a cow abducted by aliens at the top of Mt Panorama? Could've added a reverse layout! They put time and effort into something no one wants or needs, absolutely shafting the consumer
So much wasted potential - the story of Gran Turismo. I'm not gonna write which tracks (and cars) I'd love to see (again), as it's just frustrating at this point. You may be right: much of what PD does (or doesn't do) these days seems like trolling players and press.
There is a Theory that SSR5 and SSR11 are connected and I'm for it! that would have been a perfect track for endurance racing even if it was just for current GEN
you are forgetting a very awesome and important track inside of gt6!! there is a track that is just a flat plane with a green ball in the middle. thats it. the ai goes crazy there tho lmao
24:22 That's kinda dumb. They had ported over GT4 cars as standard cars, why not tracks as well? Especially if they could have had at least 42 of them like the Master Mod.
36:49 But can't these versions of GT Arena be downloaded in any way? 39:03 But can't these versions of GT Arena be downloaded in any way? 25:35 This verion of Special Stage Route X is unlockable? 27:24 And Siena Circuit???
It sucks that Street Tracks would never return to Gran Turismo, the closet thing we ever got despite being actually a highway track is Tokyo Expressway in GT Sport and 7.
@@jeroenpruim6330Kaz has stated in an interview that given how much detail telemetry goes into making newer tracks as high-definition and realistic as possible, especially with real courses and locations, accurately laying out a city course would take far more time and effort than would be possible.
@ApocalypseMoose Kaz just needs to admit he's a perfectionist who let's his own habits get in the way of just releasing something. Cough cough Tourist Trophy 2 cough cough.
GT sport’s forest track has since been removed from the files in GT7. Pretty sure it’s where the cafe takes place now but it isn’t driveable. Also, some of the new layouts of the existing tracks such as Nurburgring and Catalunya existed at the launch of GT7 before making their eventual appearance in a later update. I should still have beta footage of catalunya’s rallycross on my channel.
The real reason Seattle Circuit never came back is because the layout used up to GT PSP doesn't exist anymore. The freeway overpass you see at the start on Alaskan Way was demolished in 2019, and the final chicane would run through the parking structure next to where the Seattle Seahawks play [American] football
That's not the reason. They had the 1980s versions of Monza and Brands Hatch in GT6. And 1980s + 1990s versions of Fuji in GT4. They could've easily had 2000s Seattle in GT6. Especially since it's just a fictional track anyway.
I love how the gate in the GT Concept's Motegi (10:00) literally says "Motegi road test production in progress", along with a length and elevation of the track. It gives a nice "under-construction" feeling.
i rarely ever comment on videos but with me watching your content for so long now i have to say, this video was incredibly well made and had me glued from start to finish! keep it up man 👏
i'd wager gt1's end was definitely intended as a credit roll because mario kart ds has a very similar circular track with a background on 1 side and nothing on the other which was actually used in its final version as a credit roll
This video is amazing… I own a PS4 and PS5, but I just ordered all GT games from 1 to 6, and I’m getting the consoles too. I need to experience these games.
41:24 I believe that in cases of these unused assets being hidden in plain sight, it's likely the developers working on the game and staff responsible for trailer footage intentionally may have left Easter eggs like them out of frustration for having to cut them, imagine being one of the likely many people who were porting and remaking those 81 unused tracks in GT5 only for the higher ups to essentially say "we changed our minds, we don't want these in the game" and because corporations will have NDAs in place for employees to prevent unwanted leaks from the source the best way for them to get the evidence out there is to do so discreetly. I know if I would be told the work I put in would be wasted, I would absolutely do whatever I could to make sure somebody can find out about it even if it's all "speculation" on their end.
There’s just never enough of this type of content. A seriously huge “thank you” for all this amazing bonus GT content. There is a real comfort, knowing that there are so many of us that truly enjoy all of this extra trivia for a series that (despite what some of the nay-sayers think) just keeps on giving. THANK you. Sinecerely, Fan since 1997. Three cheers to you, Brother… …and Long Live Gran Turismo. \m/, 😊 ,\m/
I preordered GT5 back in the days and Piazza del campo was very playable until the very first or second update. I think that you if can find an early copy of the game and you launch it WITHOUT updates, you can race on it
Very describes something which has a quantity, not something that could be true or false only. Nurburgring is very bumpy, for example, meaning that it is more bumpy than the average
I think out of all of these the one that intrigues me the most is the Northern Isle Speedway one. Just the fact that it's seen in one trailer for a few seconds and never again is very odd, wonder if it will ever come up if GT Sport is somehow datamined. The completely whack SSRX layout is very interesting too, would've been super fun to drive on, especially with the Tomahawk
Since we can only see many of these from trailers or game builds from public shows, as a player it makes me feel lied to and that Polyphony digital are committing fraud. Considering how many removed tracks look complete, I cannot understand why removing them was an option, especially if they had been publicly seen already. Imagine if GT had concept art or early screenshots in their own GT museum section in Sport and 7. That makes everything much less suspicious.
Yep, but it looks like Tommy Kaira ZZ with extra large wheels. Nothing really interesting despite the fact that Kaz really planned to put Bugatti in GT long time ago
Bonus Unused Track!
In a GT5 trailer for the Toyota FT-86 Concept they showed a mystery mountain course that was never seen again: ruclips.net/video/0yZXNRSsNWs/видео.html
This track was most likely never meant to appear in the game anyway, but it’s still pretty interesting to see. It reminds a bit of Eiger Nordwand and looks like it would’ve been pretty fun to drive. Maybe it was unused course maker location, who knows?
Something else interesting about this trailer is that the driver model is just a regular person - no helmet or racing suit - which is something that has never been seen in any Gran Turismo game ever.
It kinda reminds me of Circuito de la Sierra from GT6, at least after the tunnel sequence in the trailer but obviously it's not this track.
its like a mixture of deep forest and eiger nordwand lol
Looks like the early version of Eiger Nordwand that was seen on early builds of GTHD premium. As a side note: the Ferrari California trailer has a unique stretch of mountain roads not seen anywhere else, some say its the Stelvio pass in italy @Roflwaffle16
Do you remember the town that the extended version of the london circuit took place? Really nice video btw. Edit: pls continue making these type of video, they're My favourates.
SSRX Infield will forever be a cult mystery
And it wont be put to rest until we can see the official render of it. From Polyphony themselves.
The Route X infield is the saddest missed opportunity to me. I’d love to see that track location be more than a glorified (but useful) speed test for my customized cars. Half pipe sections with the realistic physics would be so silly but so fun!
Yeah, I want that with the glitched Escudo. Sounds like a lot of fun.
There is a mod for Assetto Corsa that brings back that layout to life
Those banked section have been driven in gt6
no collision data to drive up them but you can see how it has more details than the PS4 version
ruclips.net/video/Y4m7wHbB_ck/видео.htmlsi=cWcISW6V2v9r-u54
Yeah, the container port section of Route X deserves to be a full track in itself.
"They probably didn't want to port over tracks from the PS2 to the PS3."
*ports over a majority of the cars from PS2 to PS3*
Theres another hidden gt concept track that i love alot, and its SS_Snow
Its literally just that one snowwy photomode location from gt4 but its an actual circuit which you can drive laps on meaning technically you could do a 24 hour race on it
Everytime I think I have reached the limit with Gran Turismo knowledge, Roflwaffle proves me wrong.
During one of the world tour events in the GT Sport era, there was an onboard video from the Hungaroring. The actual point standing board was shown between races and beyond this board was this onboard video with dark blue lense in the background.
I live 25 minutes from the Hungaroring, I go out literally every event. Once I told this to the headmarshall and he told me, yeah the gran turismo team has laser scanned the track already but they couldn't agree with the Hungaroring staff about the rights of the advertising boards so it will never going to be in the game. This conversation was in 2019.
Even though the series was almost 3 decades, there's still so many hidden contents unveiled until now
Man I'm old
This channel single-handedly got me rebooting a PS2 and playing GT4
I have it on a PS3 😁 It gives me easy access to the whole GT series up to GT6. Even if GT4 is the only one I want to play lol
I legit bought a used copy of GT6 and booted up my PS3 just because of this channel, while I'm also playing GT4 on PC. Now I wanna collect them all 😂
Same
Just starting replaying GT4 again lol
Same again but also with gt3
boy do I feel silly only discovering this channel just the other day, big thanks from me also very much for all this great inspirational material and with such insight/quality - first class
When are we going to get the many secret videos of roflwaffle
There's something interesting about Motegi South and that is the blue Griffith just sitting there on the track with its hood up. Always found it interesting why a blue Griffith and why does it have its hood up
That's his OnlyFans account...
Now it's just the secret Scapes
Maybe it’s „Why GT7 is the greatest Gran Turismo of all time” lol.
Because its a TVR and they are always breaking down.
@@noelwhite6650 Lmfao
I remember the long thread on GT Planet for linking SSR5 to SSR11 and even SSRX, creating SS City. Good times! 👍🏻
GT Concept have a fair share of leftover tracks from GT3 including the SSR11, Test Course and Monte Carlo.
Fun fact about the removed Siena kart track from GT5. The back box cover for the European version of GT5 still includes a screenshot of said track. Also, according to the 1609 QA build that was dumped online few years ago, Siena was meant to appear as the third event of The Grand Tour in Special events. The track itself doesn't load because it have been removed by then.
In the final game, it's now a point to point race on Toscana.
God I wish that GT Sport track was useable in the base game. I'd love to have a tight touge stage like that.
15:02 it still looks like El Capitan, just, decades before the one we know
If we ever get a Track Creator for GT7, I'm sure a lot of people will recreate these
I do miss Special Stages Route 5 & 11 from past games. Especially the original version of Route 11 from GT1. Sure, it was one of the hardest circuits on that game, but it felt super rewarding when you mastered it. Having both version on Gran Turismo 3 would have been cool
14:55 the beta version of El Capitan is closer to the real life layout of Yosemite
Heard that Polyphany tried to get Spa into GT2 but couldn't. One of the license test courses has a corner that strongly resembles Eau Rouge and Radillion.
Xiaoyu's stage theme from Tekken Tag Tournament for the PS2 (which you used as one of the BGM for this video) was composed by Keiichi Okabe.
that gt5 bombshell was the most devastating. was expecting to see most of the stuff which was in gt4 but they axed most of it.
Honestly, it shows how professional PD is and probably a bit of the Japanese mindset of trying to deliver, what is expected. I honestly liked what they prepared for GT5 and GT7, looking at the tunnel for example on the SS Route X or the stunt arena.
They didn't want to bring the PS2 quality for the port tracks, which sadly killed them from appearing.
I wish Gran Turismo would include a "Classic Mode", where you are able to drive on old tracks and maybe a fun / sandbox mode for stuff like the arena.
Please keep doing this! Gran Turismo is one of the best franchises to me, I played every single game since GT2 and I still love spending some time in GT7.
Would love SS11 to return in GT7. my god what a circuit the GT3 version was. I must of driven a good 1000 laps around it, especially in the Clio Cup and DTM Calibra. Also would love to see Route 246 back.
you missed the early version of the eiger nordwand road course seen in early builds of GTHD Concept, it has a much more technical layout and felt like a road rally stage ever more than its final version before it got changed into the final course design we all know
also, regarding london, the track actually was confirmed to be the second "premium" track for the game alongside eiger back when GTHD was being planned to be a full game, it's very possible that an earlier design of london was planned just like the early design of eiger, but got scrapped and changed into the final smaller version we have now
At this point Gran Turismo has no secrets left
Honestly, a lot of people hated the standard cars but I didn't mind that much. Maybe it helped that for some time I was playing on a CRT TV, so I couldn't see much of the bad graphics, plus the fact it was before I discovered I was starting to need glasses. I even experimented with replaying GT5 recently in 480p widescreen on my monitor, and thought it helped too with hiding the ugly.
So for those tracks, looking back, especially as we would see some standard cars get improvements in GT6, it would have been really cool if we had standard tracks too. Just adapted a little better for the new game, like how on most of the tracks shadows from the scenery aren't cast on your car, since they were baked in, and on PS2 only programed to say how bright or dark your car was depending on where it was, the shadow wasn't too detailed. Shadows cast from cars also don't fade out on the scenery shadows.
So if these tracks had shadows that worked like on PS2, just adjusting the brightness of the cars, and fading out the cast shadows, including the GT5 car shadows being cast on the car itself fading away, it could have worked. Well, at least as good as the standard cars did. I guess if we just had AI Upscaler software back then, maybe it would have been enough for them to decide on including them. Though I guess maybe they might have had to only have them in optional events, extra events, extra races for certain events, or just arcade, time trial and online, which some people could like.
14:52 I was thinking Cathedral Rocks Trail but it does share some parts of El Capitan too
Well funny that you mentionned that right after :D
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Me see Roflwaffle posted
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For now, the SSRX infield is kinda revitalized in Assetto Corsa mods, so in case you kinda wanna know how it looks like
Anyway, I kinda want to see, either the forest track in GT Sport, all those GT Arena secret layout, or even SSRX infield returned in GT as a track, or GT7 update. Would be kinda cool
What about the vegas track that was cut from gt4 that was used only as a drag strip in the final version?
Especially on the subject of GT Arena, I think it's mostly development constraints/timelines/licensing deals and the sort of stuff that makes game development so complicated at times. I don't really think it's any particularly malicious tease or anything, just, for example, screenshots from early dev stages before they tested stuff that didnt work or they wouldnt have time for.
That said, loved the video as always
Can't you see a bunch of jgtc racecars at GT Arena in the intro of gt6? I thought you couldn't get cars to race there.
I was taken aback by the Xiaoyu Theme music. Did not expect that lmao.
15:44 El Capitan if it were in *_Need For Speed_* or *_Ridge Racer._* Yeah, I went there.
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I'm impressed by just how much people have uncovered, really. Now imagine racing on Ridge Racer circuits with GT engine physics. Oh wait, has that been done already?
The only reason I can think of as to why PD put the screenshots of the track was as a cool easter egg, nothing more, nothing less.
Devs love to leave little nods and treats for dedicated players combing through the game looking for details, and I don't doubt that PD are any different in that regard
They've done this for years with things like the monkey and the Loch Ness monster on trial mountain, and more recently cows being abducted by aliens in GT7, screenshots hidden in plain sight is just an extension of that imo
I know way more about the secret cars than I do tracks, frankly because cars are way easier to remember. Not to mention text strings often refer to actual car models. Meanwhile secret track names could may as well be codenames for ones we actually got.
The first time I played GT5 was at my local target and I picked kart and I drove at the piazza it was so cool playing GT5 for the first time and in 2015 at the LA Auto show Hyundai had a time attack challenge with the Vision GT at Matterhorn
There's an unused kart track off the Turn 2 complex in High Speed Ring in GT7.
You can drive it on a modded PS4, but it might be visible normally on replays.
25:11 love the "funk goes on" from yakuza kiwami! fidnt think you could put a brawling music to a break down video about race tracks!😂😂
The Seattle Circuit would be awesome, city track like Special Stage Route 5 & 11 namely all of them, but for the next update for GT7 and the next is a huge abysmal all they ever put in the game is new cars nothing more that's sad yo that ain't gonna get tears out and you that's how pathetic that notion is.
Happy belated Saint Patrick's Day and happy Easter! Glad to see you again. Still think you need to start an ASMR channel based on engine and exhaust notes!
RoflWaffle never fails to fill us up with GT knowledge
I love the way you say 'gaem' with your accent lol. Love your videos too
Haha, I knew you'd have the GT6 stunt arena left for last. It truly is the best unused track.
I'm surprised I guessed the early version of El Capitan. Granted, I originally thought Eiger Nordwand, but scrapped that guess when you said GT4
Amazing to think that with all these cool unused tracks and cars in its past history, GT7 and Polyphony is still foing bare bones for new content ideas. Bruh just go back to the past we'll eat up the old stuff no prob.
Yeah, honestly this just makes me annoyed with PD more than anything. Their insistence on doing far less content because they hold themselves to a standard so high that most players don't even notice the details they're putting in leads to objectively worse games.
Gt7 is by far the biggest let down as far as tracks. What is the purpose of having a cow abducted by aliens at the top of Mt Panorama? Could've added a reverse layout! They put time and effort into something no one wants or needs, absolutely shafting the consumer
@9:54 EB110? I don’t recall that being in gt concept😮
I felt like such a genius when i guessed El capitan 14:59
Same 😅
9:47 the car shown to be used in this footage on the left is EB110
assuming that it's the Bugatti EB110
So much wasted potential - the story of Gran Turismo.
I'm not gonna write which tracks (and cars) I'd love to see (again), as it's just frustrating at this point.
You may be right: much of what PD does (or doesn't do) these days seems like trolling players and press.
Ahh I remember the hype that NSX trailer brought. Never got that Seattle track :/
@Roflwaffle16 I want GT Arena Layouts A.B.C. and both Mid Field And Apricot Hill raceway to return in GT7 in the next update for NEXT MONTH!
that's the kind of content i love
keep on man, you are doing great!
25:12 THE FUCKING YAKUZA OST 😱😱
Too bad P.D. doesn't seems to give a f*** about most of their old tracks...
I can't wait for gt8(or the next gt), I need to see if GT Arena will make a comeback!
You should do a series on the origins of all the gt3 event background photos. Like the gt1 car dealership videos
Best videos on youtube rn roflwaffle is killin it
There is a Theory that SSR5 and SSR11 are connected and I'm for it! that would have been a perfect track for endurance racing even if it was just for current GEN
9:53 What do you mean EB110?!? I have never even seen it suggested it as a deleted car from Gran turismo or anything like that
Ill never understand why Kyoto Miyabi Reverse was removed from GTS - it was a perfect drift track
i would've loved to see the Special Stage Route X inner circuit in GT5/6
Not watched the whole video, but i got say, it is time they add the Pikes Peak to that damn GT7
fun fact, one time kaz released an suzuki vgt picture with the pikes peak in the background...
The GT Sport forest one looks so much like Forum Japan Rally.
it still mystery till now why Seattle Circuit in NSX trailer doesnt being add into final version GT5 or GT6 and only in trailer 🤔
that Isle Infield track, i think it's PD version of Daytona Road
you are forgetting a very awesome and important track inside of gt6!! there is a track that is just a flat plane with a green ball in the middle. thats it. the ai goes crazy there tho lmao
24:22 That's kinda dumb. They had ported over GT4 cars as standard cars, why not tracks as well? Especially if they could have had at least 42 of them like the Master Mod.
Yeah, i was thinking that too...
In gt6 for Acura nsx trailer can see Unused Seattle?
No but it's possible to get access to this track on GT5 by hacking
36:49 But can't these versions of GT Arena be downloaded in any way?
39:03 But can't these versions of GT Arena be downloaded in any way?
25:35 This verion of Special Stage Route X is unlockable?
27:24 And Siena Circuit???
Would you ever consider doing some livestreamimg gt gameplay? (I don't remember if i had already asked you this question, in that case sorry😢)
Was it ever proven that GT4 had hidden course data for Gunma Sports Cycle Center?
Good job
Great vid but gotta point out the "Ford Focus Group B rally car"
Route X is the saddest
Current route X is so boring and will add a bit of fun in GT that is lacking since GT Sports.
Whats the pun at 13:04? I dont see it.
Calls the track a hybrid, while a hybrid car is being driven
34:14 What's that funky looking track at the bottom?
Cape Ring. There are a few layouts including a mega elevated expressway/raceway that looped in on itself. And a massive jump!
No one’s gonna mention Red Rock Valley??
Red Rock
This just makes me hate GT5 even more
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It sucks that Street Tracks would never return to Gran Turismo, the closet thing we ever got despite being actually a highway track is Tokyo Expressway in GT Sport and 7.
why is that
@@jeroenpruim6330Kaz has stated in an interview that given how much detail telemetry goes into making newer tracks as high-definition and realistic as possible, especially with real courses and locations, accurately laying out a city course would take far more time and effort than would be possible.
@ApocalypseMoose Kaz just needs to admit he's a perfectionist who let's his own habits get in the way of just releasing something. Cough cough Tourist Trophy 2 cough cough.
That forest stage in GT Sport, woulda been sick for Karts!!!! Speaking of Karts... Kart Space woulda been cool too.
It's a shame we didn't get a forest stage, it looks fun!
Or hell even just a tight road rally track. Do they even do those anymore?
I love race tracks that are in the middle of the forest
The GT Sport forest 'track' layout looks like a simplified Eiger Nordwand K Trail
GT sport’s forest track has since been removed from the files in GT7. Pretty sure it’s where the cafe takes place now but it isn’t driveable.
Also, some of the new layouts of the existing tracks such as Nurburgring and Catalunya existed at the launch of GT7 before making their eventual appearance in a later update. I should still have beta footage of catalunya’s rallycross on my channel.
The real reason Seattle Circuit never came back is because the layout used up to GT PSP doesn't exist anymore. The freeway overpass you see at the start on Alaskan Way was demolished in 2019, and the final chicane would run through the parking structure next to where the Seattle Seahawks play [American] football
That's not the reason.
They had the 1980s versions of Monza and Brands Hatch in GT6. And 1980s + 1990s versions of Fuji in GT4. They could've easily had 2000s Seattle in GT6. Especially since it's just a fictional track anyway.
I love how the gate in the GT Concept's Motegi (10:00) literally says "Motegi road test production in progress", along with a length and elevation of the track.
It gives a nice "under-construction" feeling.
i rarely ever comment on videos but with me watching your content for so long now i have to say, this video was incredibly well made and had me glued from start to finish! keep it up man 👏
U like gran turismo?
i'd wager gt1's end was definitely intended as a credit roll because mario kart ds has a very similar circular track with a background on 1 side and nothing on the other which was actually used in its final version as a credit roll
Special Stage Route 11 is always the one I want to make a return, you can never have too many street circuits set at night time in my opinion.
This video is amazing… I own a PS4 and PS5, but I just ordered all GT games from 1 to 6, and I’m getting the consoles too. I need to experience these games.
41:24 I believe that in cases of these unused assets being hidden in plain sight, it's likely the developers working on the game and staff responsible for trailer footage intentionally may have left Easter eggs like them out of frustration for having to cut them, imagine being one of the likely many people who were porting and remaking those 81 unused tracks in GT5 only for the higher ups to essentially say "we changed our minds, we don't want these in the game" and because corporations will have NDAs in place for employees to prevent unwanted leaks from the source the best way for them to get the evidence out there is to do so discreetly. I know if I would be told the work I put in would be wasted, I would absolutely do whatever I could to make sure somebody can find out about it even if it's all "speculation" on their end.
There’s just never enough of this type of content.
A seriously huge “thank you” for all this amazing bonus GT content. There is a real comfort, knowing that there are so many of us that truly enjoy all of this extra trivia for a series that (despite what some of the nay-sayers think) just keeps on giving.
THANK you.
Sinecerely,
Fan since 1997.
Three cheers to you, Brother…
…and Long Live Gran Turismo.
\m/, 😊 ,\m/
I preordered GT5 back in the days and Piazza del campo was very playable until the very first or second update. I think that you if can find an early copy of the game and you launch it WITHOUT updates, you can race on it
*actually playable. Very is a false friend of veramente, and actual of attuale
Very describes something which has a quantity, not something that could be true or false only.
Nurburgring is very bumpy, for example, meaning that it is more bumpy than the average
@@mattiapresti7295 Va bene fra... ti sei alzato bene stamattina eh?
I think out of all of these the one that intrigues me the most is the Northern Isle Speedway one. Just the fact that it's seen in one trailer for a few seconds and never again is very odd, wonder if it will ever come up if GT Sport is somehow datamined.
The completely whack SSRX layout is very interesting too, would've been super fun to drive on, especially with the Tomahawk
Since we can only see many of these from trailers or game builds from public shows, as a player it makes me feel lied to and that Polyphony digital are committing fraud. Considering how many removed tracks look complete, I cannot understand why removing them was an option, especially if they had been publicly seen already.
Imagine if GT had concept art or early screenshots in their own GT museum section in Sport and 7. That makes everything much less suspicious.
9:48 EB110 ?!?! 😯😯
i was about to comment the same thing!
Wow, I didn't notice that. Where's that video from??
I found it. On xtimelessgaming. Hidden cars & tracks, 51:00. EB110 looks like Tommy Kaira ZZ with extra large wheels. Kinda sad thought
Yep, but it looks like Tommy Kaira ZZ with extra large wheels. Nothing really interesting despite the fact that Kaz really planned to put Bugatti in GT long time ago
Special Stage Route 11 was so good, i used to call it the christmas tree track cause of all the trees on the straight away LOL
At some point someone has to sit with Kazunori and interview him about all this stuff.
I was hoping you would talk about the secret Special Stage Route X layout