34:13 "BRAD KESELOWSKI, WON THIS RACE" Fun fact, Brad Keselowski also broke 4 records with his win at Darlington: His 3 year long winless streak Winning in a RFK car, RFK being co-owned by himself and he last won in a Team Penske car The first the #6 car has won in NASCAR in 13 years, last won by David Ragan at Daytona Ford's 2024 winless streak across every single major racing series they have participated (3 of the races being lost in photo finishes against a Chevrolet)
fun fact : the Ford GT LM Race Car (and Spec II) are the only cars with racing gearbox in Gran Turismo 4 that don't make a whine sound because they are actually set as "standard" gearbox despite being fully adjustable.
@@alrecks619interestingly, 2002 GT-R CONCEPT LM also is favourite car for Makima (Chainsaw Man) and Kaho Hinoshita (Hasu no Sora Jogakuin School Idol Doukoukai).
I'm surprised to see it wasn't in here! GT3 alone cemented it as my favourite car of all time, and that's coming from a European kid that grew up with F1 and DTM.
man the ending is even sadder when i thought about the Nismo R33 GT-R LM race car livery had that sticker on the door that said "Keep The Dream Alive". hits harder than it already is
On 787B: I feel like this car is the most misunderstood racer for some reason. I'd roll my eyes every time people think that the car is "so fast, it's banned" (while the R32 Group A actually existed), but to be fair I used to believe more on the "not meant to be reliable but it won by sheer luck" angle. Regardless, I applaud Mazda's engineering team to create the most balanced and reliable race car that gave them the win they deserve after years of attempts. On Skyline LM: That image of the road car driving to the sunset will forever be ingrained to my head. Fun fact: I actually traced one frame of the scene for my thesis defense years ago. Kinda shame that we haven't got the road version Skyline LM in GT7, even the race version, and the fact that the race version wasn't fully licensed when it appeared doesn't help either.
Setsuna-chan's Minolta 88C-V imo is one of the 250 cars that are wished to be returned in Gran Turismo 7 along with Maki-chan's Toyota GT ONE and Castrol Mugen NSX 2000. So far, only 2000 Mugen NSX, Maki-chan's Toyota GT ONE and 2 Volvo Models are added in GT7 via updates.
IIRC what really happened is that the FIA threw a fit that manufacturers were actually using different engines, and after '91 forced everyone to use the same engines that F1 did. So rotaries weren't banned by name, but they were banned alongside everything else that wasn't what the FIA wanted specifically.
@@reinbeers5322 Group C was immensely popular with manufacturers and fans thanks to its fairly liberal rules. As long as it met the mandated fuel economy targets pretty much any engine was eligible. Thus there was incredible variety. Porsche's 962 with their proven turbo flat six that had been winning races all over the place since the 1970s, Nissan and Toyota opting for bespoke small displacement Turbo V8s, Mercedes with a larger production based V8 Turbo, Jaguar with their giant 7.0L fuck off V12 taken from the XJS V12 and of course Mazda with their unique rotaries. And then there was the cheaper C2 class for privateers running F1 derived V8 engines, usually Cosworth. Seeing as Group C was starting to rival F1s popularity the FIA decided to effectively make the C2 class the new top class in the WSC starting in 1991. (Which eventually caused a mass exodus and the death of Group C) However as Le Mans was sanctioned by the ACO the old C1 cars were eligible to run in that one event, but with severe ballast. So everyone opted to run the faster 1990 spec cars, besides Mazda who thanks to them running in GTP were able to avoid the ballast restrictions of their faster competitors. And the rest was history.
Excellent video and the nod to the R33 GT-R LM at the end was perfect... it left a big impression in me as being the first car to appear at the intro of GT1 and the last, at the final video (I swear to God I was crying as "Second Chance" played in the last scene, as the LM disappears towards the sun). Thanks to this, I'm a big fan of the model and scored a 1/18 scale of it from OttoMobile to include in my diecast car collection. Shame Polyphony Digital apparently forgot about it while Turn 10/Playground Games added it to Forza.
These are definitely GT icons, but I think you missed some other ones: Dodge Viper GTS-R Team Oreca and Chevrolet Corvette C5-R Pagani Zonda C12 Pink Vitz
Even though the GT-R LM was forgotten in the gran turismo series, it shifted to the Forza Racing Games, having appeared in Motorsport 7 and Horizon 3, 4 and 5 with a Forza Edition variant in Horizon 4.
Personally… the true embodiment of gran turismo for me is the team oreca dodge viper race car with the iconic red with white paint job and the yellow lights
I was surprised roflwaffle didn't talk about the oreca viper. I always thought that car was an Icon tied to gt3 considering how much it was shown in the game's opening.
The iconic car for me in GT3 has to be the Team Oreca Viper GTS-R. That red livery on the viper is eye popping. Not to mention at the time it was one of the most dominate race cars of an era.
The Nissan R390 twin turbo V8 is the engine McLaren used for the MP4-12C and pretty much all other modern McLarens with a V8 twin turbo. It was reworked but it is the engine they basically use. Including the P1.
While I do agree with you I think most gamers know about the R35 GTR because of Need for Speed Prostreet as that game was the first racing game to feature the production ready R35 GTR and it also featured the prototype R35 GTR.
The end of the video actually made me feel rather sad. Justice for the GT-R LM! I wish both would be added to GT7! Alongside the R390 GT1 and Cerebera.
I find that the GT1 JP End Credits theme, "Second Chance" by Masahiro Andoh ft. Joseph Williams, perfectly fits the GT-R LM's situation in the lore of GT rn.
i remember seeing the Ford GT for the first time in the GT4 intro being in absolute awe, to this day one of the most beautiful cars i've ever seen in my life
The Esperante GTR-1 I recall was screwed over by being heavier than it should. Not nearly as egregious as the Storm GT's case, but the additional weight definitely didn't help. Anyways, maybe the Vector M12 LM counts as another "GT icon", though it already got brought up in a past video thanks to the Trial Mountain Endurance bug.
You need to talk about fictional cars of Gran Turismo (FGT,RX8 LM Race Car) BECAUSE I think it's an interesting idea (especially you need to talk about FGT because it's criminally UNDERRATED!)
I could have sworn there was already a video critiquing the Vision GTs. I haven't watched it in a while but I thought the LM Edition cars were brought up, but if not, they are interesting vehicles nonetheless. Some of em seemed like "what ifs" to some degree, like the GTO LM effectively being a "what if the Mitsubishi GTO ran in the JGTC".
Only Roflwaffle has made me want to yell YOU ARE NOT FORGOTTEN to a ps1 car model. That intro (and game) made a huge impression on 5 year old me, unable to speak english and unable to really understand what that car was. I had written it off as a trailer car that couldn't be raced since once I found out about racing modifications the R33 didn't look at all like it and it took me over 5 years to find out it was a real car.
Fun fact: The original project 7/12 was also in Test Drive 4 as the reward car for beating the Masters Cup. Also was the only car with a 7-Speed gearbox and was the 2nd fastest car in the game behind the Viper GTS-R
I wish more people would try to speed run or LP stream the old Test Drive games. That’d be great to watch someone try to not lose their mind trying to deal with the god awful AI that rubber band so fast they literally wreck you lmao
@@heedseeker6155 Was TD4 any good? I recall TD5 and especially TD6 just being outright bad and having some of the most off-model vehicles of any racing game, even for the time.
@@ArbitraryOutcome TD4 was pretty bad as well but it’s like a charming kind of bad lol. The car models in all of the TD’s on PlayStation are wonky and bizarre but they were never going to look too good because it’s an arcade racer on a game console just getting used to 3D. Still fun to play from time to time
Since it has been leaked that thr next silhouettes will be some of the most famous cars in GT i think the video is very appropriate, Good Job Rofl (prediction for next video: gran turismo award cars that never made it in game until now)
I fell in love so bad for that ford gt lm race car as a kid, i think it's one of the most iconic mascot for any granturismo. And one of those great icons of video game. I remember buying NFS undercover on ps2 just to remake it and being able to drive it
Was really waiting for a video like this, as there are so, so many cars whose entire identity to me is tied to Gran Turismo. I am also a diecast collector, so I am working on a mini-collection of GT icons. Already have a few, like the Calsonic R32, Takata NSX, the Gran Turismo 4 GT and R34 pace car.
Hit it out of the park again Roflwaffle. You truly found the legends of Gran Turismo some famous and some not so famous. My hero car has to be the Ford GT (LM Race Car Spec II) with GT4 being my first game I played. However I also have some honourably mentions: The Castrol Toms Supra, the Team Oreca Viper and the Panzo Race car.
I think the Suzuki Escudo Pikes Peak should be considered an icon... We could also argue on the RE-Amemiya RX7, the Chaparral Fan Car, the RUF CTR Yellowbird and the Dodge Vision GT Tomahawk... Heck, I'd even consider the R30 Skyline Sillouette "Foumula" in that same bundle too!
2nd comment for the Cerbera Speed 12, I saw the racing version in British GT back in the day when they were testing. It was pretty fast if I remember, only being beaten by a Saleen, which by the way had started from the pit lane. Ah man, I miss GT1 & 2 😢
Also, in '91 the regulations changed in Grp.C to the 3.5 engine formula. Anyone running an older engine could still run, but would have their performance restricted. However, because Mazda were running in the lower group C class (C2) before, they were able to enter without performance restrictions
And the engine would see use in the Kudzu LMP in probably 95-96, pretty much dispelling the "engine banned" allegations people would throw, if they'd ever bother to learn that is.
@@SetsunaTheFandomHell, the engine saw life in LMP900 up into the early 00s, with it being in the back of a couple of WM (the same constructor that broke the 400 km/h mark first) LMPs, to not really any success N2M stateside you had Mazda with the semi-factory LMP675/LMP2 program with the 3-rotor (the Courage C65-Mazda being the basis of the Funai), also to little success, as the nature of wankels made them incredibly ill-suited to both ground effect regulations and air restrictor formula. Can't remember for know long wankels were LMP2 legal, but it was pretty deep into the 00s.
The ford GT40 is infamous in GT2, in which it boasted good AI and a horsepower number above the maximum allowed limit at Rome during the Historic Car Cup.
Every time I watch a video like this, I hope someone will mention the Tommy Kaira ZZII from GT3. Having 100%'s the game more than once, it was still my favourite car to drive and yet no one else seems to remember it
The R390 Road and Race cars were standard in GT5 and 6, but at least they were some of the "semi-premium" models in 6. They had a very good improvement, an almost premium-like exterior, the race car in fact even had a polished up livery, which is something I believe other semi-premium race cars didn't.
the 97 car was chosen due to ease of access as it was the only "true" castrol supra left in existence around the time it was modeled/scanned during the gthd era, the 00 car is somewhere in southern north america and the 96 is in france. a sister 98 spec car was found by cerumo and restored a few years ago.
Perfect video to watch before we drive off to the Nürburgring today and get ready to watch the 24h race! Thanks Roflwaffle! It was a good video to watch 👀
I am surprised the Team Oreca Viper GTS-R and the Pennzoil Nismo GT-R R34 wasn't mentioned in this video. I hope you can able to make a part 2 of this video because of it :)
I don't want to be that guy but it's somewhat shocking to me that the Chaparral 2J other than a brief moment in the Cars You Only Know Because of Gran Turismo Video. It was never mentioned in any of the related videos to this whether that would be the GT Meme Cars or Infamous Cars. More so the meme cars since it fitted into so many categories of other cars that were mentioned in that video from the "Just Look At It" cars, the ridiculous power of the Escudo and the He's There/He's Not There aura of the GT40
Great job as usual Roflwaffle... A car to examine the history on would be the Toyota 7 race car. It has a very checkered past through all it's iterations. Might be a great medium length topic for a future video
2002 Nissan GT-R Concept LM, 2002 FAIRLADY Z CONCEPT LM, 2004 Ford GT LM Spec II, Shioriko Mifune's Mazda 787B, Setsuna Yuki's Minolta Toyota 88C-V are all very iconic and legendary cars in GT FRANCHISE... The 2009 Audi R8 LMS LMGT3 from Gran Turismo PSP also is very underrated.
I actually have a diecast of the Ford GT LM Spec ll test car. It was a sponsorship that Hot Wheels did with Gran Turismo. They also had a Lamborghini Veneno race car, the Peugeot VISION GT car, and a few others over time. (That might be a neat video idea: Gran Tursimo's presence outside of the video games, kinda like how the original game had people talking about cars in a different way.)
The thing I always find interesting about the GT One is that the livery in GT4, 5 and 6 is deliberately inaccurate because the real car had a Marlboro sponsorship and they wanted that to be less obvious in a child friendly game, so the white triangle on the front is replaced by a kind of curve. The GT7 version is back to having the realistic white triangle at the front again though.
It's funny to think that Forza series carried the torch at preserving R33 LM legacy from GT, I really liked it there. I've spent lots of hours in online races with "Nissan Nismo GT-R LM Forza Edition" because with a bit of tuning it was really good to use at almost any road car tournament, and it's livery reminded me of it's former glory in GT 1 days. Driving in a Road Car gave me pleasure too, so maybe right now it is one of the best "contemporary" ways to experience this car in a videogame. Your video also gave me food for thought about "car on the cover" phenomenon and how videogames used to market. Usually I don't like discussions with the common theme like "something used to be better", for example "racing games used to be better", anyway I couldn't help but think about it in a way, that earlier racing games utilized it's cover art to emphasize specific car and make it look like the best car in the game even if it's perfomance wasn't that great. One of the best examples of it is yellow Lamborghini Diablo SV in Need For Speed III: Hot Pursuit or Honda S2000, that is used in various GT2 cover arts and even in the game's menu design - these cars aren't the best in its class, but because of game covers you look at it like it's something really special, something that stands out of the rest of the roster. Today I feel that if I look at the modern racing games covers, I won't feel anything special about the cars on it and I really can't get a solid reason of why is it happening. The last games, that made me exciting about specific cars because of it's covers are Forza Horizon 4 and Wreckfest - and after I didn't feel that again. Maybe it is sense nostalgia, that give me that feeling about old games, maybe something else. Anyway, I find it a bit sad, that starting from Gran Turismo 5, GT Series didn't feature cars on it's covers the way that you will instantly recognize the car and want to have it in the game, they've done it in mostly stylistic way, that made cars blend with the other elements of the design, so it doesn't have a chance to stand out on its own and you probably won't even remember, what exact car was used there. In that sense I wish things were more like the past days.
Fun fact, the black livery with blue window banner is an actual livery used by Nissan for the R390. It was a test livery in preparations to Le Mans 1998
For me Viper Team Oreca and Ford GT LM are the two iconic cars, also i think Viper is the “cover car” of the GT3, like he is so marketable, he appears in the intro and most of the demos in the menu
Almost 30 years later, Toyota is still using the same 4 numbers (#36, #37, #38 and #39) and Raybrig still uses #100. Just some interesting Super GT lore.
I'm sure I'm in the minority, but I actually prefer Project 7/12 over the Cerbera Speed 12. I never liked the facelifted Cerbera, so it being the base for the final Speed 12 didn't sit that well with me. If anything, I'd rather take the Cerbera LM Editions from the first two games instead (since those were based on the pre-facelift Cerbera, which looks much better IMO). A big part of Project 7/12's appeal for me in GT2 was its sound. So savage. Pure eargasm. One of the very few old Gran Turismo car sounds that IMO sound good even today. I know it was carried over to the Cerbera Speed 12 in GT3, but it loses a bit of its magic when it's not the same car anymore.
Man, I'll never forget the first time I played Gran Turismo 5. I was completely blown away by the night time driving (I was at Le Mans if memory serves me correctly). What car was I driving you may ask? You guessed it, The Castrol TOM'S Supra.
Worth remembering that The Ford GT LM Spec II Race Car AND the Ford GT LM Spec II Test Car also are the only GT Original Race cars that have 1:18 scale Die-Casts made of them By Autoart. Seems like there were THAT big a deal. Also an ironic fact: The #3 Toyota GT-One that chased down the BMW in 1999 is the same sole surviving #27 chassis from 1998 with the exact same driver lineup.
The R390 is a semi-premium car in GT6 and not a PS2 model. It was heavily updated and only lacked an interior. And the 787B was not the only Group C to get a premium model on the PS3 The Sauber C9 and Jaguar XJR-9 both received premium models too.
It's even more sad that the R33 GT-R is othe most overlooked GT-R, the 2000 is the one who started (but also very forgotten), R32 is a racing legend, the R34 is the most main stream and the R35 is the latest one.
Man, it’s good to hear the backstory from these cars. For TVR, there are some models I would like to see in Asphalt 9: Legends Unite because not only the famous ones feature, but some of the cut cars that would make the roster a bit bigger with the Griffith reboot being the longest class D king.
One car that for me is as iconic as the Castrol Supra is the yellow Pennzoil Nismo R34 ... That or it's just nostalgia kicking in as I always used it against my brother when we played through GT1- GT4 growing up.
I am interested in your personal wishlist about Racetracks, like the fictional tracks we had in Gran Turismo or real world tracks. Your explenations are really good why it make sense
Hello Rofl, good to see you again! Before the car list starts I'd predict there would have to be a Viper and a Castrol Supra in almost every game! Curious if future titles will prove me right or wrong. Have a great day! Thanks for the awesome upload.
34:20 that darlington race is nascar’s designated throwback weekend, it’s been around for close to a decade now so basically all of the iconic nascar schemes have already been done at least once if not many times
Nissan: we have to change the entire car to fit the regulations
Toyota: you could use the fuel tank
34:13 "BRAD KESELOWSKI, WON THIS RACE"
Fun fact, Brad Keselowski also broke 4 records with his win at Darlington:
His 3 year long winless streak
Winning in a RFK car, RFK being co-owned by himself and he last won in a Team Penske car
The first the #6 car has won in NASCAR in 13 years, last won by David Ragan at Daytona
Ford's 2024 winless streak across every single major racing series they have participated (3 of the races being lost in photo finishes against a Chevrolet)
And the best part? There was no wall riding involved.
Chevy humiliated them the same way they humiliated Ferrari? That's cool, though i like Ford slightly more
They oughta run that scheme as the main Castrol one lol
And he chose the scheme mainly cuz of the gran turismo influence, he said it in some promotional material
is any of those actually a record?
To me it just feels weird that the Team Oreca Viper is not considered amongst the other GT titans of the PS2 era
Should be. To me that is the most iconic GT car together with the Castrol Supra.
Or the 'Vette C6.R
fun fact : the Ford GT LM Race Car (and Spec II) are the only cars with racing gearbox in Gran Turismo 4 that don't make a whine sound because they are actually set as "standard" gearbox despite being fully adjustable.
Electric Prius '97 in gt2
the kicker is that The GT Concept LM (Spec I) actually made the straight cut noise in GT3 lmao.
@@francescoiuliano5690and also 2009 EV Prius Touring Car in Gran Turismo 5.
@@alrecks619interestingly, 2002 GT-R CONCEPT LM also is favourite car for Makima (Chainsaw Man) and Kaho Hinoshita (Hasu no Sora Jogakuin School Idol Doukoukai).
IKR
Thanks to the sad ending of this video, I now demand the Nismo GT-R LM to return to Gran Turismo.
The GT-R LM NISMO 1995 Racing off in Gran Turismo 1 ending credits:
(Singing Dreaming Now from Nijigasaki starts playing.)
No one seems to remember GT3’s red Viper GTS-R Team Oreca :(
I do! What a sexy car. Although I prefer the GT2 livery
I'm surprised to see it wasn't in here! GT3 alone cemented it as my favourite car of all time, and that's coming from a European kid that grew up with F1 and DTM.
@@sirloinestakegames7866Honoka Kousaka's 1999 Viper GTS-R TEAM ORECA LMGT2 Livery should return to GT7!
@@koenslinkmanand also Super GT and FIA Rallycross World Championship.
i sure as hell do
man the ending is even sadder when i thought about the Nismo R33 GT-R LM race car livery had that sticker on the door that said "Keep The Dream Alive". hits harder than it already is
Fun fact, 4 is the big unlucky number in Japan. Quite brave of Polyphony to feature that number on a hero car.
That seems like a commonality among Asian cultures that 4 is super unlucky. Why is that?
@@alistairwalker2850 because the way it sounds in those languages is very close to the sound that translates to "death"
Oh, we're eating good today. New Roflwaffle video and 41 minutes long!!!
Yeah subpar frozen dollar store waffles !
Great video as always.
getting very fast with the videos. yay 😁😁😁
@@WhiteRoseUSand also the legendary one. Especially the 2001 Pagani Zonda LM.
@@shannacollins4741salty much?
On 787B: I feel like this car is the most misunderstood racer for some reason. I'd roll my eyes every time people think that the car is "so fast, it's banned" (while the R32 Group A actually existed), but to be fair I used to believe more on the "not meant to be reliable but it won by sheer luck" angle. Regardless, I applaud Mazda's engineering team to create the most balanced and reliable race car that gave them the win they deserve after years of attempts.
On Skyline LM: That image of the road car driving to the sunset will forever be ingrained to my head. Fun fact: I actually traced one frame of the scene for my thesis defense years ago. Kinda shame that we haven't got the road version Skyline LM in GT7, even the race version, and the fact that the race version wasn't fully licensed when it appeared doesn't help either.
Setsuna-chan's Minolta 88C-V imo is one of the 250 cars that are wished to be returned in Gran Turismo 7 along with Maki-chan's Toyota GT ONE and Castrol Mugen NSX 2000. So far, only 2000 Mugen NSX, Maki-chan's Toyota GT ONE and 2 Volvo Models are added in GT7 via updates.
IIRC what really happened is that the FIA threw a fit that manufacturers were actually using different engines, and after '91 forced everyone to use the same engines that F1 did. So rotaries weren't banned by name, but they were banned alongside everything else that wasn't what the FIA wanted specifically.
@@reinbeers5322 Group C was immensely popular with manufacturers and fans thanks to its fairly liberal rules. As long as it met the mandated fuel economy targets pretty much any engine was eligible. Thus there was incredible variety. Porsche's 962 with their proven turbo flat six that had been winning races all over the place since the 1970s, Nissan and Toyota opting for bespoke small displacement Turbo V8s, Mercedes with a larger production based V8 Turbo, Jaguar with their giant 7.0L fuck off V12 taken from the XJS V12 and of course Mazda with their unique rotaries. And then there was the cheaper C2 class for privateers running F1 derived V8 engines, usually Cosworth.
Seeing as Group C was starting to rival F1s popularity the FIA decided to effectively make the C2 class the new top class in the WSC starting in 1991. (Which eventually caused a mass exodus and the death of Group C) However as Le Mans was sanctioned by the ACO the old C1 cars were eligible to run in that one event, but with severe ballast. So everyone opted to run the faster 1990 spec cars, besides Mazda who thanks to them running in GTP were able to avoid the ballast restrictions of their faster competitors. And the rest was history.
Rip in peace Nissan GT-R LM. You were in one game but left a hell of an impression for that one game
True. GT-R LM 1995 is truly the GOATED car. The same also goes to 1996 Impreza WRC with 592bhp and a special black colour.
Trupy a RIP in pieces moment 💔 😢 🙏
Small correction at 13:15. The 787 has a 4 Rotor engine, not a 3 Rotor.
I thought Shioriko Mifune's 787B has 3 rotor engines like Mazda RX7 Touring Car 2002.
Excellent video and the nod to the R33 GT-R LM at the end was perfect... it left a big impression in me as being the first car to appear at the intro of GT1 and the last, at the final video (I swear to God I was crying as "Second Chance" played in the last scene, as the LM disappears towards the sun). Thanks to this, I'm a big fan of the model and scored a 1/18 scale of it from OttoMobile to include in my diecast car collection.
Shame Polyphony Digital apparently forgot about it while Turn 10/Playground Games added it to Forza.
Cant believe this guy didnt mention the Viper with the Green Lights "Shaking My Had"
The 1996 Viper GTS-R also a very underrated car.
These are definitely GT icons, but I think you missed some other ones:
Dodge Viper GTS-R Team Oreca and Chevrolet Corvette C5-R
Pagani Zonda C12
Pink Vitz
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The Escudo Pikes Peak is another Gran Turismo icon, but I'm guessing it was left out because it already featured in prior videos.
To me, another icon from the early games is the Mobil1 NSX
Even though the GT-R LM was forgotten in the gran turismo series, it shifted to the Forza Racing Games, having appeared in Motorsport 7 and Horizon 3, 4 and 5 with a Forza Edition variant in Horizon 4.
Escudo is curiously missing?!?!?!??!?!??!!??!?!
Personally… the true embodiment of gran turismo for me is the team oreca dodge viper race car with the iconic red with white paint job and the yellow lights
I was surprised roflwaffle didn't talk about the oreca viper. I always thought that car was an Icon tied to gt3 considering how much it was shown in the game's opening.
I wasn't expecting to hear Ground Zero Funk in a Gran Turismo video, an absolute banger.
21:34 "what are we some kinda gran turismo 3?" **For Faith from Yakuza 4 OST starts playing**
THE SELFISH DEEEEEEEEEED
@@wyoming2868IS NOT FREEDOOOOOOOM.
@@Thereal_nishikiyamawhy it isnt a freedom?
@@purwantiallan5089 you ruined it
We are the Gran Turismo 4.
The iconic car for me in GT3 has to be the Team Oreca Viper GTS-R. That red livery on the viper is eye popping. Not to mention at the time it was one of the most dominate race cars of an era.
The yellow GT LM Spec II is cursed
The Nissan R390 twin turbo V8 is the engine McLaren used for the MP4-12C and pretty much all other modern McLarens with a V8 twin turbo. It was reworked but it is the engine they basically use. Including the P1.
I wish that the Renault Espace F1 was a GT Series icon…
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I think the R35 GTR should also be on this list for one reason.
It shares the graphics with GT5 because Nissan collaborated with PD to create them.
While I do agree with you I think most gamers know about the R35 GTR because of Need for Speed Prostreet as that game was the first racing game to feature the production ready R35 GTR and it also featured the prototype R35 GTR.
I remember being amazed at driving the R35 GTR in cockpit view for the first time in GT5 Prologue with the car's amazing MFD screen
It's literally the face of Gran Turismo.
The end of the video actually made me feel rather sad. Justice for the GT-R LM! I wish both would be added to GT7! Alongside the R390 GT1 and Cerebera.
that ending, gave me tears briefly.
I feel extremely lucky to have sat in that Road LM car in Nissan's Zama facility quite a few years ago... Still with it's key in the ignition.
I find that the GT1 JP End Credits theme, "Second Chance" by Masahiro Andoh ft. Joseph Williams, perfectly fits the GT-R LM's situation in the lore of GT rn.
i remember seeing the Ford GT for the first time in the GT4 intro being in absolute awe, to this day one of the most beautiful cars i've ever seen in my life
Can't wait for _Icons of Gran Turismo Vol.II_ with the XJ220 LM & Espace F1. Oh and the Panoz GTR-1. Maybe RUF?
Viper should be in there too.
Venturi 600 maybe? From gran Turismo 2
The Esperante GTR-1 I recall was screwed over by being heavier than it should. Not nearly as egregious as the Storm GT's case, but the additional weight definitely didn't help.
Anyways, maybe the Vector M12 LM counts as another "GT icon", though it already got brought up in a past video thanks to the Trial Mountain Endurance bug.
the best gran turismo icon is obviously the daihatsu midget
Nah bro it's the Citroen 2CV
Pink Vitz/Yaris: "Excuse me, am I joke to you?".
Everyone: "Yes, you are!".
Yellow Evo: "Amateurs."
You need to talk about fictional cars of Gran Turismo (FGT,RX8 LM Race Car) BECAUSE I think it's an interesting idea (especially you need to talk about FGT because it's criminally UNDERRATED!)
I could have sworn there was already a video critiquing the Vision GTs. I haven't watched it in a while but I thought the LM Edition cars were brought up, but if not, they are interesting vehicles nonetheless. Some of em seemed like "what ifs" to some degree, like the GTO LM effectively being a "what if the Mitsubishi GTO ran in the JGTC".
Only Roflwaffle has made me want to yell YOU ARE NOT FORGOTTEN to a ps1 car model.
That intro (and game) made a huge impression on 5 year old me, unable to speak english and unable to really understand what that car was. I had written it off as a trailer car that couldn't be raced since once I found out about racing modifications the R33 didn't look at all like it and it took me over 5 years to find out it was a real car.
GT1 and the castrol supra are the reason I fell in love with motorsport, racing games and sims and cars in general
Fun fact: The original project 7/12 was also in Test Drive 4 as the reward car for beating the Masters Cup. Also was the only car with a 7-Speed gearbox and was the 2nd fastest car in the game behind the Viper GTS-R
I wish more people would try to speed run or LP stream the old Test Drive games. That’d be great to watch someone try to not lose their mind trying to deal with the god awful AI that rubber band so fast they literally wreck you lmao
@@heedseeker6155 I couldn't agree more, I still remember having a hard time with San Francisco on TD4 but I loved the tracks
@@heedseeker6155 Was TD4 any good? I recall TD5 and especially TD6 just being outright bad and having some of the most off-model vehicles of any racing game, even for the time.
@@ArbitraryOutcome TD4 was pretty bad as well but it’s like a charming kind of bad lol. The car models in all of the TD’s on PlayStation are wonky and bizarre but they were never going to look too good because it’s an arcade racer on a game console just getting used to 3D. Still fun to play from time to time
Since it has been leaked that thr next silhouettes will be some of the most famous cars in GT i think the video is very appropriate, Good Job Rofl (prediction for next video: gran turismo award cars that never made it in game until now)
I fell in love so bad for that ford gt lm race car as a kid, i think it's one of the most iconic mascot for any granturismo. And one of those great icons of video game.
I remember buying NFS undercover on ps2 just to remake it and being able to drive it
Nfs Undercover was such a great game. Thanks for reminding me of my memories, Upgraded 997 Turbo was best!
You forgot the Suzuki Pike's Peak
THAT FILM THUMBNAIL 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Was really waiting for a video like this, as there are so, so many cars whose entire identity to me is tied to Gran Turismo. I am also a diecast collector, so I am working on a mini-collection of GT icons. Already have a few, like the Calsonic R32, Takata NSX, the Gran Turismo 4 GT and R34 pace car.
Thank you for the info on the Castrol Tom's Supra and the Ford GT LM Race Car. I did not know that :)
Gran turismo actually made me fall in love with the pagani zonda r and the r92cp the most
Hit it out of the park again Roflwaffle. You truly found the legends of Gran Turismo some famous and some not so famous.
My hero car has to be the Ford GT (LM Race Car Spec II) with GT4 being my first game I played. However I also have some honourably mentions: The Castrol Toms Supra, the Team Oreca Viper and the Panzo Race car.
Nissan GTR LM most loved car in gran turismo ❤❤❤😢😢
Rest piece legend 😢😢😢
I think the Suzuki Escudo Pikes Peak should be considered an icon... We could also argue on the RE-Amemiya RX7, the Chaparral Fan Car, the RUF CTR Yellowbird and the Dodge Vision GT Tomahawk... Heck, I'd even consider the R30 Skyline Sillouette "Foumula" in that same bundle too!
2nd comment for the Cerbera Speed 12, I saw the racing version in British GT back in the day when they were testing. It was pretty fast if I remember, only being beaten by a Saleen, which by the way had started from the pit lane. Ah man, I miss GT1 & 2 😢
What timing with the return of the Castrol NSX GT500. I love it!
The GTR LM part got me crying ngl
I'll always remember getting a TVR speed 12 up to 275 mph in GT4 and it being the fastest I ever went in a game until the SRT vision car in GT sport.
the Spec II Ford GT is why I love the 05-06 Ford GT mostly cause of the 02 concept version car wheels
Also, in '91 the regulations changed in Grp.C to the 3.5 engine formula. Anyone running an older engine could still run, but would have their performance restricted. However, because Mazda were running in the lower group C class (C2) before, they were able to enter without performance restrictions
And the engine would see use in the Kudzu LMP in probably 95-96, pretty much dispelling the "engine banned" allegations people would throw, if they'd ever bother to learn that is.
@@SetsunaTheFandom I didn't know that, learn something new every day!
@@SetsunaTheFandomHell, the engine saw life in LMP900 up into the early 00s, with it being in the back of a couple of WM (the same constructor that broke the 400 km/h mark first) LMPs, to not really any success
N2M stateside you had Mazda with the semi-factory LMP675/LMP2 program with the 3-rotor (the Courage C65-Mazda being the basis of the Funai), also to little success, as the nature of wankels made them incredibly ill-suited to both ground effect regulations and air restrictor formula.
Can't remember for know long wankels were LMP2 legal, but it was pretty deep into the 00s.
"We're taking on the cream of the crop." For some reason, as you were saying it, I heard it in Macho Man's voice in my head!!!!😂😂😂😂
The Oreca Viper, C5.R and Castrol Supra are the secondary holy trinity of GT3.
Its sad that the Nismo GTR LM race car could not return it would be the perfect rival for the Castrol Supra
The first thing that comes to mind when I think about GT 4 is that my PS2 looks like it's about to crap out. Can't even think about that.
PD went out of their way to fully optimize the capabilities of PS2 despite still having limitations of only being able to bring up to 5 CPU cars.
The ford GT40 is infamous in GT2, in which it boasted good AI and a horsepower number above the maximum allowed limit at Rome during the Historic Car Cup.
Every time I watch a video like this, I hope someone will mention the Tommy Kaira ZZII from GT3. Having 100%'s the game more than once, it was still my favourite car to drive and yet no one else seems to remember it
how the hell do you only have like 40k subscribers? this is a top quality video essay
The R390 Road and Race cars were standard in GT5 and 6, but at least they were some of the "semi-premium" models in 6. They had a very good improvement, an almost premium-like exterior, the race car in fact even had a polished up livery, which is something I believe other semi-premium race cars didn't.
Guys I think he likes Gran Turismo
the 97 car was chosen due to ease of access as it was the only "true" castrol supra left in existence around the time it was modeled/scanned during the gthd era, the 00 car is somewhere in southern north america and the 96 is in france. a sister 98 spec car was found by cerumo and restored a few years ago.
Perfect video to watch before we drive off to the Nürburgring today and get ready to watch the 24h race!
Thanks Roflwaffle! It was a good video to watch 👀
I am surprised the Team Oreca Viper GTS-R and the Pennzoil Nismo GT-R R34 wasn't mentioned in this video. I hope you can able to make a part 2 of this video because of it :)
I don't want to be that guy but it's somewhat shocking to me that the Chaparral 2J other than a brief moment in the Cars You Only Know Because of Gran Turismo Video. It was never mentioned in any of the related videos to this whether that would be the GT Meme Cars or Infamous Cars. More so the meme cars since it fitted into so many categories of other cars that were mentioned in that video from the "Just Look At It" cars, the ridiculous power of the Escudo and the He's There/He's Not There aura of the GT40
Castrol Supra, Ford GT LM, Escudo, the black edition cars in GT4 used dealership, Mazda Demio lol ❤
Great job as usual Roflwaffle... A car to examine the history on would be the Toyota 7 race car. It has a very checkered past through all it's iterations. Might be a great medium length topic for a future video
when i think of gran turismo the first car that always comes to my mind is the castrol supra. i love the castrol supra
39:03 same thing happened in Gran Turismo 7, with Porsche 911 GT1
2002 Nissan GT-R Concept LM, 2002 FAIRLADY Z CONCEPT LM, 2004 Ford GT LM Spec II, Shioriko Mifune's Mazda 787B, Setsuna Yuki's Minolta Toyota 88C-V are all very iconic and legendary cars in GT FRANCHISE... The 2009 Audi R8 LMS LMGT3 from Gran Turismo PSP also is very underrated.
wait the Ford GT LM Race Car is not real?!?
My life is a lie
I actually have a diecast of the Ford GT LM Spec ll test car. It was a sponsorship that Hot Wheels did with Gran Turismo. They also had a Lamborghini Veneno race car, the Peugeot VISION GT car, and a few others over time. (That might be a neat video idea: Gran Tursimo's presence outside of the video games, kinda like how the original game had people talking about cars in a different way.)
Every upload you make is a great day! Great vídeo as always.
The thing I always find interesting about the GT One is that the livery in GT4, 5 and 6 is deliberately inaccurate because the real car had a Marlboro sponsorship and they wanted that to be less obvious in a child friendly game, so the white triangle on the front is replaced by a kind of curve.
The GT7 version is back to having the realistic white triangle at the front again though.
It's funny to think that Forza series carried the torch at preserving R33 LM legacy from GT, I really liked it there. I've spent lots of hours in online races with "Nissan Nismo GT-R LM Forza Edition" because with a bit of tuning it was really good to use at almost any road car tournament, and it's livery reminded me of it's former glory in GT 1 days. Driving in a Road Car gave me pleasure too, so maybe right now it is one of the best "contemporary" ways to experience this car in a videogame.
Your video also gave me food for thought about "car on the cover" phenomenon and how videogames used to market. Usually I don't like discussions with the common theme like "something used to be better", for example "racing games used to be better", anyway I couldn't help but think about it in a way, that earlier racing games utilized it's cover art to emphasize specific car and make it look like the best car in the game even if it's perfomance wasn't that great. One of the best examples of it is yellow Lamborghini Diablo SV in Need For Speed III: Hot Pursuit or Honda S2000, that is used in various GT2 cover arts and even in the game's menu design - these cars aren't the best in its class, but because of game covers you look at it like it's something really special, something that stands out of the rest of the roster. Today I feel that if I look at the modern racing games covers, I won't feel anything special about the cars on it and I really can't get a solid reason of why is it happening. The last games, that made me exciting about specific cars because of it's covers are Forza Horizon 4 and Wreckfest - and after I didn't feel that again. Maybe it is sense nostalgia, that give me that feeling about old games, maybe something else.
Anyway, I find it a bit sad, that starting from Gran Turismo 5, GT Series didn't feature cars on it's covers the way that you will instantly recognize the car and want to have it in the game, they've done it in mostly stylistic way, that made cars blend with the other elements of the design, so it doesn't have a chance to stand out on its own and you probably won't even remember, what exact car was used there. In that sense I wish things were more like the past days.
Fun fact, the black livery with blue window banner is an actual livery used by Nissan for the R390. It was a test livery in preparations to Le Mans 1998
Mazda 787b won me my first GT World Championship in GT4.
For me Viper Team Oreca and Ford GT LM are the two iconic cars, also i think Viper is the “cover car” of the GT3, like he is so marketable, he appears in the intro and most of the demos in the menu
This video is truly iconic
a few cool cars with 36 - Eagle Weslake TF1 that Dan Gurney used at Spa Francorchamps way back in 1967 - wish that was in GT
T1G even!
Almost 30 years later, Toyota is still using the same 4 numbers (#36, #37, #38 and #39) and Raybrig still uses #100. Just some interesting Super GT lore.
Another excellent video, brilliant mix of the gt series lore and stories of real world racing.
Also, the 787B also had its stealth variant return as a premium PS3 model in GT5 as DLC and 6
I'm sure I'm in the minority, but I actually prefer Project 7/12 over the Cerbera Speed 12. I never liked the facelifted Cerbera, so it being the base for the final Speed 12 didn't sit that well with me. If anything, I'd rather take the Cerbera LM Editions from the first two games instead (since those were based on the pre-facelift Cerbera, which looks much better IMO).
A big part of Project 7/12's appeal for me in GT2 was its sound. So savage. Pure eargasm. One of the very few old Gran Turismo car sounds that IMO sound good even today. I know it was carried over to the Cerbera Speed 12 in GT3, but it loses a bit of its magic when it's not the same car anymore.
Man, I'll never forget the first time I played Gran Turismo 5. I was completely blown away by the night time driving (I was at Le Mans if memory serves me correctly). What car was I driving you may ask?
You guessed it, The Castrol TOM'S Supra.
Your patreon roster is getting stronger! Keep up with the good work!
The toyota woodone is my favorite car personally. The aqua livery and its sound are my entire childhood.
Worth remembering that The Ford GT LM Spec II Race Car AND the Ford GT LM Spec II Test Car also are the only GT Original Race cars that have 1:18 scale Die-Casts made of them By Autoart. Seems like there were THAT big a deal.
Also an ironic fact: The #3 Toyota GT-One that chased down the BMW in 1999 is the same sole surviving #27 chassis from 1998 with the exact same driver lineup.
The R390 is a semi-premium car in GT6 and not a PS2 model. It was heavily updated and only lacked an interior. And the 787B was not the only Group C to get a premium model on the PS3 The Sauber C9 and Jaguar XJR-9 both received premium models too.
Got a massive 500ml cup of Chai. About to enjoy the next hour. Roflwaffle vids are a must watch, and a hit beverage makes it exponentially better.
It's even more sad that the R33 GT-R is othe most overlooked GT-R, the 2000 is the one who started (but also very forgotten), R32 is a racing legend, the R34 is the most main stream and the R35 is the latest one.
Just in time for the return of 2000 JGTC NSX
For GT3, I found that in the right hands, the Zonda LM and the Esperante GTR-1 can hold their own against the big three
This channel is brilliant. Such a nostalgia hit.
Man, it’s good to hear the backstory from these cars. For TVR, there are some models I would like to see in Asphalt 9: Legends Unite because not only the famous ones feature, but some of the cut cars that would make the roster a bit bigger with the Griffith reboot being the longest class D king.
My favourite gran turismo car is the 787B. What a machine. Takes some learning tho. 😮😮😮😮
One car that for me is as iconic as the Castrol Supra is the yellow Pennzoil Nismo R34 ... That or it's just nostalgia kicking in as I always used it against my brother when we played through GT1- GT4 growing up.
I am interested in your personal wishlist about Racetracks, like the fictional tracks we had in Gran Turismo or real world tracks. Your explenations are really good why it make sense
Hello Rofl, good to see you again! Before the car list starts I'd predict there would have to be a Viper and a Castrol Supra in almost every game! Curious if future titles will prove me right or wrong. Have a great day! Thanks for the awesome upload.
34:20 that darlington race is nascar’s designated throwback weekend, it’s been around for close to a decade now so basically all of the iconic nascar schemes have already been done at least once if not many times