I learned DJing in the vinyl era and it is true that, although more difficult, the experience is better and more fun. However, we must admit that the possibilities for a DJ in the digital age are endless.
I started djing with cd’s. Soon I was more interested to play vinyl. Now I have been a vinyl only dj for over 20 years. I love collecting vinyls. In my opinion you can’t beat the feeling of the vinyl. ❤
Started dj on vinyl mid 90s. I LOVE digital now because it solves so many issues: 1) no more needle skipping 2) no more limited music release 3) no more music deterioration 4) usb a lot more mobile than lugging vinyl around 5) vinyl collection won’t take up space 6) buying music can be downloaded instantly. No more waiting for vinyl to arrive in the mail 7) can buy music anytime anywhere 8) don’t have to buy an entire record for just one track 9) and loop and jump around the song I miss certain things about vinyl, but for the purpose of getting the crowd going, it’s a a lot easier and more fun.
1) no more needle skipping - Big deal, who gives a fuck - its happens ONCE or TWICE in a night. Once it DOES happen you can fix it once you've mixed the record out. Easy. 2) no more limited music release - Gotta be in there first to get it. Do you have REAL passion to make an effort to get tunes first??? 3) no more music deterioration - Fuck that. BS myth. 4) usb a lot more mobile than lugging vinyl around - What! You dont have arms? You dont have strong arms? What? Two boxes - 50-100 records should do you for one night. 5) vinyl collection won’t take up space - Booo fuckin hoo. Get organised! 6) buying music can be downloaded instantly. No more waiting for vinyl to arrive in the mail - Waiting, patience is a virtue. 7) can buy music anytime anywhere - Dont make any difference. Got the passion and love to go out and search for music? 8) don’t have to buy an entire record for just one track - Well. 9) and loop and jump around the song - Loops are for tricks. We dont trick in House music.
OK can we all just chill that was a bit strong. Cant stop tech moving on. But as long as the music good, is a good basis. But I guess EVERYONE now can have easy access to mix tunes. So I will come out of my mid life crisis and move on.
As an old school 90's dj getting back into now, the idea of digital with DVS is the ultimate combination of the two. Feel and control of vinyl with thousands of tracks, hot cues etc on a USB.
Dj' vinyl 25 + years ago, then went digital, now im back to 2x 1210mk2 and a basic 2 channel mixer with low/mid/hi eq on each track. basic as anything but enjoy it more than the digital. plus.. searching for records and getting a bargain at a charity shop is next level excitment :) too easy with digital.
Digging for records is a huge part of the passion I developed for the DJ craft as well. I enjoy hunting and digging almost as much as I love to play and share music with people who want to dance.
i do mixing on vinyl as a bedroom dj , collecting the records is a fun thing especially getting those rare records . i used to have a cdj 350 and djm 350 which i sold off , i might get the xdj series next time . Club dj's , i don't mind if they use controller , cdj or vinyl . the music selection is essential . I still recall going to James zabiela set in 2013 , his mixing on controller was another level .
I used to dj vinyl about 25 years ago, then progressed to CDJ, etc. haven't used anything in years, but this year did my research and picked up a new kit. What did i get? Single turntable + numark scratch + serato dvs + tablet sized laptop. I mix from the deck then flip it to internal mode and then mix the next track on the vinyl, etc. I get all the beneftis of vinyl and CDJ without any of the downsides 👍🙂
@oldskoolclassic it's heavy to carry around and set up 4 speakers, a big heavy dj deck, a milk cartons full of cables, stands and lights as a mobile dj. I still do it using a laptop and a usb dongle. And the best part is I can play pretty much whatever the crowd requests
Let me just quote Chris Liebing: It doesn't matter if the music is played from CD or vinyl, the only thing that matters is if the people would dance to it
Yes indeed and THAT depends on the quality of the House music. People got a need or want to dance to House music these days? People got a want or need to make good house music? Are they being inspired by past House music to make new improved House music for todays times?
@@StephenOBG He could have meant dance music in general. I started DJing on vinyl, my first gig with a cdj was on a Pio 100, which I learned to operate 5 minutes before the gig. Once I even rigged up my soundcard and a Traktor 2.0 with an external mixer. Noone cared about the medium I was playing on.
I will always be for vinyl. I think it took more skill, practice, patience, and real understanding of the tracks you had in the library. Certainly, I have to acknowledge digital and the future, that's just progress but, for me, vinyl took more musical understanding. To each their own at the end of the day!
The vinyl versus digital debate will never end. I personally enjoy vinyl more and have used it for 15 years - I used to DJ at clubs with CD's before the USB decks became the new standard. I didn't enjoy it half as much and felt like I was just waiting to play the next track at the right time. Vinyl DJ's focus a lot more on detail and transitions - Digital is more, mixer effects and tricks which add and help build into an overall mix. They're slightly different styles of mixing and both sound good. It's whatever you enjoy personally.
Started with vinyl coz I was too poor for CDJs back in the day. Then I went to CDs and now USB. I respect vinyls more but I enjoy playing digital way more. It's just more fun. Yes it's easier but more fun as well. I don't use synch and still do everything as manually as I can. But there are just way more options to mix quickly and make it fun.
I’ve played on every setup imaginable (even two Sony Discman portable CD players 😂), and I have to say- Vinyl AND CDJs are equal in terms of fun. The tactile factor of playing records, and the work that gets put into it are unmatched, but all the bells and whistles that CDJs come with make DJing fun and creative. The ability to loop, alone, is a God-tier feature. I’ll take these two formats over controllers and DVS any day.
Nice vid, I think the biggest point often missed and usually when I’m put in the ‘vinyl’ dj corner is if you play ‘old’ 90/80/70’s music then unless it was a chart hit it will only be on wax. Unless you soul seek or buy records, make a copy and then either never use it again or sell. Anyways I know this is more for equipment purposes and great job 👏
I would never consider using cds or a controller, for me its still vinyl only, and playing the whole tune and choosing that sweet spot at the end of one tune while mixing in the drop of the next tune so you have that seamless mix from one song to the next song, i don't do any tricks or backflips, just like pure mixing to take you on that journey 🤗
we love vinyl for the craft, its an experience. man i laughed when you started mixing the vinyl and immediately increased its speed although it was already at a higher bpm than the cdj 🤣🤣. this is why we love it
Interesting video. I djed vinyl 8 or 9 years. Then did 8 or 9 on cdjs, simpler ones to these cdj 800s and 1000s, more basic displays. I always struggled with vinyl, found the cueing tough. Even if you can get the time right to match the beat, getting it in the right key to stay in tune is tough. Liked there was no autosync with early cdjs, you still had to use your ears. I liked having a physical object a cd, rather than memory stick, felt like a link to vinyl in someway, even though it is emulation. There is always an emphasis on playing two tracks at the same time, beat matching, in truth, you dont always need to be doing that. Power downs, sudden cue drops for contrast, use of pause, gradual fade outs, etc all these things can be used.
Back in the 90's and 2000's in LA's underground warehouse parties, many Chicago house DJs would spin a record upside down and backwards. Try that with a CD.
Every sunday i do my live streams 100% vinyl. I have been doing this since 98. In the meantime i used a 4 channel controller for it but now use a pioneer djm800. Love it! When doing vinyl sets i wanted it to be the real thing not needing a pc to be able to mix. Btw. Look at the grooves shows when breaks come. Little bit the same as that wave form display. Besides the vinyl setup i also have a rx3. Great thing to use and as far as i know almost the same as a cdj. Digital is different. More clean. Great video👍👍
Excellent explanation. I have been a vinyl DJ since the late 80's and have thousands of House, Soul, Funk, Hip Hop, and other genre of records. You are spot on about the art of mixing vinyl, it's very hard to learn at first and looping and scratching takes the difficulty to an whole other level. I'm glad I mastered mixing vinyl, it is the purest form. But on saying this, I also went down the digital route, with controllers and also DVS. I love the creativity you can do with the digital side of DJing. If digital was coffee and analogue was tea, some people drink only coffee, some only tea, I drink both and enjoy supping each equally. I stopped feeling guilty of using DVS and digital rather than analogue vinyl, when I saw my hero's, DJ Sneak, Grandmaster Flash, Skratch Bastard and Mix Master Mike, using DVS. 😅If it's good enough for them and not lose credibility, then it's good enough for me, I thought. 😂 I enjoyed watching this, you know your stuff. Respect, peace and love.
Vinyl for me of course - i also use Serato with SL3 occasionally, but always such a pleasure to pick my records from the shelves PS: have never tried CDjs ever ...
Great video man. Really good way of explaining this contrast and differences between vinyl and digital. I started in 1996 and my dream was to compete in a world competition. It took me 9 years to get a chance to audition for a spot. You had to audition for judges just to get on brackets back then. I've since competed in 3 DMC world Championships and got my butt kicked all 3 times. Lol point being after all the years I still prefer the feel of moving platters and vinyl. I use DVS whenever possible but have grown accustomed to the CDJs as well because they are the standard now. Best way to train yourself is the old way with the least amount of extras possible. No fx nothing. Then work towards the new gear because it will make a whole lot more sense and using it to one's advantage will be more effective. Like learning to drive a manual transmission. Sure you can buy an automatic and never need that knowledge but one day you might find yourself stranded and the only option is a manual to get you home. If you learn that way first you can drive anything with a motor and it could be new or old it won't matter you could literally drive anything. So if you can mix on vinyl with a simple 2 channel mixer then going to the controller next with all those features and extras will be a much easier. It's not an accident that the overall layout hasn't changed in 30 years 2 decks and a mixer in the middle. All in ones are made to feel the same way.
Been dj-ing since 1986 when I got some sl 1200s the silver ones then in the 90s I got 1210s I've tried CDjs and the Pioneer controllers and played out in clubs using digital systems but nothing beats mixing on turntables also I like the way vinyl sounds digital music can be to clean to my ear
So, I started DJ'ing in 1998 on vinyl (I prefer to call 'm records), but I went on to the digital age in DJ'ing. Of course I performed on CDJ's, but I rather use my Roland DJ-505 in combination with the Roland TB-303 and Roland TR-909 and several other tech stuff than CDJ's and a mixer. I'm also more of a fan of RANE stuff and Denon DJ, mostly because Pioneer DJ (AlphaTheta) isn't as good as some people want you to believe (in fact they're terribly built, but that's another story). People often call me a noob DJ because I use a DJ controller in my home studio, but little do they know that I in fact started out in the DJ world mixing cassette tapes back in 1994 using a back then prototype of the later released Roland DJ-2000 mixer. I have learned it the hard way, now using the easy stuff. Mixing on vinyl isn't that hard, but if you have no feeling for rhythm and still desire to become a DJ, it will be hard. Very hard. In that case, the more SC5000/SC6000 tabletops from Denon DJ would suit you better. That said, as mentioned before, I'm not a fan of Pioneer DJ gear. They aren't durable, replacement parts are way too expensive and most CDJ's won't last a decade without RMA's in or out of warranty at least once. My Denon DJ SC2900M tabletops (still have them, don't use them anymore though) still work and haven't seen any RMA at all. And they've been used every weekend for over a decade.
Will always be a Vinyl DJ at heart, but I also love DJ/Music tech and realize that a lot of the things we had to do as vinyl DJs are no longer required in the digital world, which makes for more tricks or mash ups. The comparisons will never end though, lol. Love both sides.
Great video. Loved working on the vinyl. Think you forgot to mention time remaining. You had to know your records and keep an eye on the tone arm as to where it was on the vinyl. Need to get myself a deck to get some of my records back out. Congratulations on views.
Yes such a good point you really needed to know your music inside out! Plus you really needed a sturdy DJ booth! Thanks for watching and the kind words mate
It was great DJing on vinyl back in the day, but I prefer the ease of CDJ’s I remember having one CDJ in our club in Tenerife in 99, and I hated it, but it has evolved, I had 3 large boxes of tunes travelling from UK wasn’t cheap, now just a USB stick and you have thousands of tunes,
In my opinion, an Vinyl djing is like driving an old manual car without fancy electric wires in it. You have to learn it how to operate it by yourself. But digital CDJ's are more like an modern car with fancy electric wires in it, showing everything in details basically.
Ich denk das Hauptproblem ist das viele CDJ-User einfach nicht die Fähigkeiten wie Loopen und sonstiges nutzen sondern einfach ganz klassisch wie ein Vinyl-User einfach nur einen Übergang machen und fertig. Desweiteren gibt es auch Möglichkeiten wie Loops etc. Für Vinyl, man muss es aber halt extra pressen lassen. Auch find ich es mittlerweile viel interessanter mit zwein oder drein identischen Schallplatten selbst Effekte wie Reverb Flanger etc. Mit Schallplatten zu erzeugen. Das ist alles möglich man muss es nur wissen wie und dann üben üben üben. BUT NOW IN ENGLISH this is maybe the best Video for explaining the differents about Digital and analog DJing
It’s a artwork when mixing on vinyl, like a work man’s trade, you learn it to be the best, like any other trade, but it’s now like a sync button, I call a photocopy machine” Real art work, out heart and solo into some art works, now we have, like a Ai and his artwork is the same or even better but not a real Trade person” with the passion for his work” I’m moving to Djj 200 to macbook but still looking to make it feel like a vinyl deck
I wonder what those vinyl fanboys would think about Serato? Would they count using control records as "real" DJing? I doubt it since Serato uses music on a laptop to work so they might still say it's fake
Im vinyl fanboy that uses Serato. I use Serato, so I can preserve my real vinyl. I could care less about Contoller records. But if you scratch up my Biggie singles that are fetching 70 bucks nowadays on Ebay, I'd be upset. I only cheat on Serato matching speeds. Digital readout is faster than me listening to the speed and matching it.
I use control vinyl with serato sometimes, its nice to be able to add some gimmicks to a rougher house mix say, loops, limited effects and to play 2 of the same tune together on occasion - as well as being able to play a tune you cant get on vinyl
CD is frame rate. Vinyl is moving physically from record through the needle and out the speaker. Audio quality is not the issue. That's my feeling anyway. :)
Nice video. There certainly is something magical when you are trying to find the right vinyl, when you take it out from the envelope and putting on the deck. P.S.: Nothing against CDjs. Played few times on the cd and was actually quite fun. 😎
Great video, I mix on both vinyl and digital. I've been mixing since 98 n believe the digital revolution as been great on the pocket 😂😂. But I still love ❤️ mixing my vinyl, and whatever genre I'm playing:)
There are a lot of controllers and things that emulate vinyl nowadays, its way better to buy a Rane Performer or a Pioneer REV 7 if you want to have the best of both worlds - vinyl feelign and digital audio. Oh and people on comments are claiming that only Vinyl DJS mix by ear, thats a lie, I use a controller and I always mix by ear, i dont need the screen for anything, i just use it coz its more affordable. If i could have a standalone player I would prefer. But its way too expensive in my country. Also, there are DJs that play with turntables with timecode/phase and use sync on their songs.
Thank you for the kind words. I agree and so this wasn’t made to try and create more division but more to show where that passion potentially comes from.
I started out Vinyl when i was 15 and when i turned 18 i got a pair of Pioneer nexus 2000’s on finance and honestly it was a breeze compared to vinyl. Anyone who really wanted to can learn how to mix on CDJ’s, Vinyl definitely take a hell a lot more skill for sure
Was always amused by the fear in a cross fade DJ’s eyes when I would turn up and start setting up 1210’s. Even now you can still do more on vinyl than you can with cd but most have not looked deep enough to realise it
Damn right records are still viable even in 2024 I still own my 1200mk2 also own cdj900 and a Rane controller I like technology in not stuck in the past Starting of in 1987 records which I still have all of them over the many years before going to cds, have many of them as well. Yes beat matching is knowing all your records and where you want to blend. It’s much more challenging but it’s still fun to use your ears instead of your eyes on a laptop screen.
The bottom line is this. Turntables take more skill. It took me 5+ years to get good enough to play the biggest clubs in Miami. The only downside to turntables back then was that analog would not sound as good or as loud because most clubs or concerts didn't have good enough equipment to properly process the analog signals. I remember being at a concert with RUN DMC and they were complaining that Jay's turntables didn't sound as loud as the CDJs - and there is truth to that. But now you can run a digital signal out of turntables and have both. Ever see a DMC competition with DJs using CDJ's or laptops? No! Because it would be boring as shit. That's why DMC only allows turntables - because it takes real skill. It's like playing a guitar vs. guitar hero.
Only one man to thank for takeing the truntable making it an istrument herbie hankock man is a legend wonder what he woud say about digital crap where any one can mix or tweek knobs and jump around like a twonk
About the BPM in Vinyl. You could roughly calculate the bpm if you wanted to. Let's say one track is 145 an the other 152. Difference is 7, so about 5%. Then you move the speed slider of the 145 to +5.
Completely agree…but my point is working out what the bpm is in the first place and you don’t have the exact read out on tempo slider so you never know exactly the speed you are pitching your records up and down to. DJing with traditional vinyl is about using your ears and knowing your tracks inside out
So how do you do the calculation to the 3rd, 4th, 5th etc record? You’ve calculated the difference between the original speed for the first pair but ain’t no way you’re going to be doing the math for the rest. I doubt any vinyl DJ does this.. easiest to just queue it up and make the adjustment. Takes a few seconds to get it locked in
I started DJing in 1979 and i still own a pair of 1200's that i purchased in 1985. and i can still rock my 1200's cdj's and controllers it ain't what you got in front of you is how you play. i admit that djing with wax aka vinyl is hard So, let's all rock theses party's and have a good time ▼ Reply
Unfortunately engineers at clubs often have no clue how to set up turntables. I've had arguments with them for putting monitor speakers on the desk next to the turntables. The other thing is the crowd. There is no concept of skipping the needle anymore, people just don't know about that, so people mah be jumping all over, and again, the engineer has probably put them on a rickety desk which even the subs can rattle. Then there is the condition of the decks. Technics are good only if they have been serviced, otherwise they can be really terrible. These are the reasons I stopped, nothing to do with the format itself, it's just impractical. I love the tactile feel of vinyl, and the challenge. As someone who digitised and synced their record collection, I can tell you, vinyl does not stay in time, it's constant upkeep. I love digital now though, cue points, sync and easy access to a million filters make it much more creative than just playing one track after another. Also, I don't have to reorganise my collection after every gig.
Now this I do agree with. I remember when clubs had the turntables on proper solid concrete risers. Don’t see any of that now! The needles don’t stand a chance!
I believe that all djs should learn to beat match without visual aids. You never know what kind of situation you may find yourself in. As long you have two audio outputs and a mixer to go from one song to the next you should be able keep your crowd going. That being said whatever makes life easier or makes your performance more interesting, take full advantage of it. It's a bit like travelling from A to B. First man learned how to walk. then man invented the cycle and only later on came motor vehicles. Depending on our circumstances today we sometimes walk and sometimes use other means of conveyance depending on circumstances. As for visual aids, after a time and some dedication you will find yourself in a position to roughly guess the approximate +/-5bpm range of a song by listening to it then it's a matter of minor adjustment. Back in the 80s when I first started showing interest in dj, I found it quite difficult to beat match. The way I overcame that was by humming a song I knew the rough bpm with the song I'm playing. For instance if I am playing a song and I hum along faithless by insomnia and see the pace seems match I would know the track would be in around the 125-130 bpm range. Even today with how far we have advanced with dj equipment and with all the visual aids available, you will still hear me humming every now and then not out of necessity but because old habits die hard. I personally believe if you can tap your feet to a beat, with enough time, dedication and practice you can definitely be a successful DJ.
I think the ultimate compromise is DVS, feel of vinyl with all the benefits of digital. Shame it's so pricey to set up and corperations like rekordbox forcing subscriptions to use it.
Vinyl = everything by ear. Can the digital dJ's even get two tracks the same speed without the controller automatically doing it for them? Auto-Cue? Really?
Ey ich lege seit 1986 mit Technics 1210er auf und habe tatsächlich keine Ahnung wie das mit den Cdj funktioniert 😊 Habe es nie probiert. Meine 1210er turntables habe ich immer noch 😉
The most important thing with vinyl mixing is your ears!!! Without ears/headphones, it's hard to mix on vinyl... with CDJs... nothing could be easier... everything is graphic, no need for ears, and it's this ease that I don't like. Ask a DJ who only mixes on CDJ to mix on vinyl... impossible...
The point is (without watching the complete clip, but I will :)) A vinyl DJ can pull up a monster set after 10 minutes on a CDJ, a DJ who is only used to play with auto sync, will have a hard time on a turntable.
Vinyl is way better since the new kids can't cheat and beat match by ear. Lots of the new kids use auto BPM for these new controllers. It's kinda a betrayal to us oldschoolers . If u can beat match with cdjs/controllers then respect. But if your using auto BPM your faking it like lypsycing or Paris Hilton DJing. It's lame . No offence. Do the real.thing people. It's nice to see a dj mix and start to mess up then fix it on the fly. It's an art
People that use CDJs aren't DJing. Full stop. It's not fair to compare them. It's a completely different thing that has nothing to do with traditional DJing. EJ might be a better term. None of the skills of DJing present themselves at any point, the computer is beatmatching, looping, sampling and doing every other task a DJ does. EJing is basically just hitting the play button and triggering a bunch of effects. It's not even comparing apples to oranges. It's more like comparing the sea and the sky. They have zero overlap, other than music is involved in both cases.
pre analyse audio tracks to tag info something (vinyl biscuit?) vs why you can load a not pre analysed track @ cdj? all things you remark are related to recordbox previously to use the tracks on a cdj, they are not inherent to CDJs. you can tag on every record of your vinyl collection duration, bpms, point to scratch, your name and almost the same lazy info recordbox metadata uses after analyse the track. ... much better compare djing vs cdj without parafernalia. pure track vs pure track. OR... compare not preanalyse vs analyse, reanalyse, quantize, cuemarks, beatmatch, etc. (you can use withpout a cdj, i.e. from the computer). at the end... good luck with sunlight or screendamage display. you NEED the f* screen of the cdj to 'djing'... sad. years ago, djing was something you had to do in the absolute darkness. loud volume, flashes, smoke machines... only possible with vinyls, hands and headphones. and now, 2024... and hundred of buttons, millions of f* rgb and a lot of stupid 'features' on a ton of devices @ booth, dj's do lot LESS and mixes are much worse.
You are forgetting a few more aspects of DJ-ing with vinyl: 1) Weight. It's heavy traveling with a crate of vinyl. 2) Durability. Vinyl is not very durable. Play a record 20 times and you will start to hear the wear. Have to handle with a lot of care. Keep clean. So much worries with vinyl.
Completely agree however this video is focusing on the basics of mixing on vinyl vs cdj rather than the practical aspects of working with vinyl. Very good points though.
Your kinda right with the wear. I don't normally use my vinyl much. I download the tracks off of RUclips. and use those on my Serato. Same tracks, but now I cheat a little bit on speed matching now its displayed on the screen and I don't need my ears to match them for speed.
I'll stop you right there. All the info a vinyl dj needs is on the wax lol. You can see each break/bridge and drop. I am dj'ing digital and timecode for 12 years plus. Vinyl dj'ing since the 90's. I am one of the ones whos evolved but you have to aknowledge that vinyl dj's read the wax that's 101 even for your gen.
he's right. You get accustomed to groove reading the more you get to know each record. However going to digital is a not evolving, its technological degeneration. Kinda like people who don't know how to garden because they simply go to McDonalds. It's great you can garden and go to McDonalds Tho.
I learned DJing in the vinyl era and it is true that, although more difficult, the experience is better and more fun. However, we must admit that the possibilities for a DJ in the digital age are endless.
DVS, best of both ;)
I started djing with cd’s. Soon I was more interested to play vinyl. Now I have been a vinyl only dj for over 20 years. I love collecting vinyls. In my opinion you can’t beat the feeling of the vinyl. ❤
Nice one! It is a feeling unlike anything else!
I've been spinnin' for 30yrs! I love owning, using, & collecting vinyl. I have loads of crates.
Started dj on vinyl mid 90s. I LOVE digital now because it solves so many issues:
1) no more needle skipping
2) no more limited music release
3) no more music deterioration
4) usb a lot more mobile than lugging vinyl around
5) vinyl collection won’t take up space
6) buying music can be downloaded instantly. No more waiting for vinyl to arrive in the mail
7) can buy music anytime anywhere
8) don’t have to buy an entire record for just one track
9) and loop and jump around the song
I miss certain things about vinyl, but for the purpose of getting the crowd going, it’s a a lot easier and more fun.
1) no more needle skipping - Big deal, who gives a fuck - its happens ONCE or TWICE in a night. Once it DOES happen you can fix it once you've mixed the record out. Easy.
2) no more limited music release - Gotta be in there first to get it. Do you have REAL passion to make an effort to get tunes first???
3) no more music deterioration - Fuck that. BS myth.
4) usb a lot more mobile than lugging vinyl around - What! You dont have arms? You dont have strong arms? What? Two boxes - 50-100 records should do you for one night.
5) vinyl collection won’t take up space - Booo fuckin hoo. Get organised!
6) buying music can be downloaded instantly. No more waiting for vinyl to arrive in the mail - Waiting, patience is a virtue.
7) can buy music anytime anywhere - Dont make any difference. Got the passion and love to go out and search for music?
8) don’t have to buy an entire record for just one track - Well.
9) and loop and jump around the song - Loops are for tricks. We dont trick in House music.
@@StephenOBG Jesus old man calma
@@StephenOBG agreed!
OK can we all just chill that was a bit strong. Cant stop tech moving on. But as long as the music good, is a good basis.
But I guess EVERYONE now can have easy access to mix tunes. So I will come out of my mid life crisis and move on.
@@StephenOBG ah ok.
80s baby here! I still prefer vinyl. I have nothing against digital DJs but for me you can’t beat vinyl 😊
Nothing beats vinyl until you have to carry crates of it up stairs haha! Thank you for watching!
@@djkarlthomas 😂😂😂
On a turntable consolle..
you can't create a fake mixing.
Today everyone can hit play on a pre mixed audio file..if he wants..😏
As an old school 90's dj getting back into now, the idea of digital with DVS is the ultimate combination of the two. Feel and control of vinyl with thousands of tracks, hot cues etc on a USB.
@akanonymoss love that!! Thanks for watching
Dj' vinyl 25 + years ago, then went digital, now im back to 2x 1210mk2 and a basic 2 channel mixer with low/mid/hi eq on each track. basic as anything but enjoy it more than the digital. plus.. searching for records and getting a bargain at a charity shop is next level excitment :) too easy with digital.
I completely agree with you on this, there is something magical about keeping it simple and djing on vinyl isn’t there! Thank you for watching mate
@@Paul-Carson The Tanks(Turntables)
Digging for records is a huge part of the passion I developed for the DJ craft as well. I enjoy hunting and digging almost as much as I love to play and share music with people who want to dance.
@levi-5th omg yes! Nothing beats crate digging! Love that!
i do mixing on vinyl as a bedroom dj , collecting the records is a fun thing especially getting those rare records . i used to have a cdj 350 and djm 350 which i sold off , i might get the xdj series next time . Club dj's , i don't mind if they use controller , cdj or vinyl . the music selection is essential . I still recall going to James zabiela set in 2013 , his mixing on controller was another level .
I only had the chance to start djing in the controlers era but I love to see the classic why it really shows how to feel music
As an old vinyl dj geezer that started in the early 90's, I really appreciated this video. Thanks! Subbed ;)
Glad it was enjoyable! Thank you for the kind words
I used to dj vinyl about 25 years ago, then progressed to CDJ, etc. haven't used anything in years, but this year did my research and picked up a new kit. What did i get? Single turntable + numark scratch + serato dvs + tablet sized laptop. I mix from the deck then flip it to internal mode and then mix the next track on the vinyl, etc. I get all the beneftis of vinyl and CDJ without any of the downsides 👍🙂
Nice one! Thanks for watching
I love peoples argument of i dont have to lug around vinyl anymore, its heavy , its your job , im a plumber , and radiators are heavy everyday
@oldskoolclassic it's heavy to carry around and set up 4 speakers, a big heavy dj deck, a milk cartons full of cables, stands and lights as a mobile dj. I still do it using a laptop and a usb dongle. And the best part is I can play pretty much whatever the crowd requests
Let me just quote Chris Liebing: It doesn't matter if the music is played from CD or vinyl, the only thing that matters is if the people would dance to it
Very good quote this! Thanks for watching!
Yes indeed and THAT depends on the quality of the House music. People got a need or want to dance to House music these days? People got a want or need to make good house music? Are they being inspired by past House music to make new improved House music for todays times?
@@StephenOBG He could have meant dance music in general. I started DJing on vinyl, my first gig with a cdj was on a Pio 100, which I learned to operate 5 minutes before the gig. Once I even rigged up my soundcard and a Traktor 2.0 with an external mixer. Noone cared about the medium I was playing on.
It has to always be vinyl for me when it comes to DJing and using Technics 1210s.
I will always be for vinyl. I think it took more skill, practice, patience, and real understanding of the tracks you had in the library. Certainly, I have to acknowledge digital and the future, that's just progress but, for me, vinyl took more musical understanding. To each their own at the end of the day!
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The vinyl versus digital debate will never end.
I personally enjoy vinyl more and have used it for 15 years - I used to DJ at clubs with CD's before the USB decks became the new standard. I didn't enjoy it half as much and felt like I was just waiting to play the next track at the right time.
Vinyl DJ's focus a lot more on detail and transitions - Digital is more, mixer effects and tricks which add and help build into an overall mix. They're slightly different styles of mixing and both sound good. It's whatever you enjoy personally.
Completely agree with you! Thank you for watching
@@BrandonDJx -- Cool. But where's the Scratching. Lol.
Started with vinyl coz I was too poor for CDJs back in the day. Then I went to CDs and now USB. I respect vinyls more but I enjoy playing digital way more. It's just more fun. Yes it's easier but more fun as well. I don't use synch and still do everything as manually as I can. But there are just way more options to mix quickly and make it fun.
I never got any fun from digital I found it boring as hell
I’ve played on every setup imaginable (even two Sony Discman portable CD players 😂), and I have to say- Vinyl AND CDJs are equal in terms of fun.
The tactile factor of playing records, and the work that gets put into it are unmatched, but all the bells and whistles that CDJs come with make DJing fun and creative. The ability to loop, alone, is a God-tier feature.
I’ll take these two formats over controllers and DVS any day.
Nice vid, I think the biggest point often missed and usually when I’m put in the ‘vinyl’ dj corner is if you play ‘old’ 90/80/70’s music then unless it was a chart hit it will only be on wax. Unless you soul seek or buy records, make a copy and then either never use it again or sell. Anyways I know this is more for equipment purposes and great job 👏
Thank you for watching and your thoughts. Glad you enjoyed!
I would never consider using cds or a controller, for me its still vinyl only, and playing the whole tune and choosing that sweet spot at the end of one tune while mixing in the drop of the next tune so you have that seamless mix from one song to the next song, i don't do any tricks or backflips, just like pure mixing to take you on that journey 🤗
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we love vinyl for the craft, its an experience. man i laughed when you started mixing the vinyl and immediately increased its speed although it was already at a higher bpm than the cdj 🤣🤣. this is why we love it
Thanks for watching, filming and mixing vinyl…I felt the pressure 😂😂😂
The guy is bang right mixing vinyl is a art form I've been djing on and off for over 30 yrs and you never stop learning when it comes to vinyl
Interesting video.
I djed vinyl 8 or 9 years. Then did 8 or 9 on cdjs, simpler ones to these cdj 800s and 1000s, more basic displays.
I always struggled with vinyl, found the cueing tough. Even if you can get the time right to match the beat, getting it in the right key to stay in tune is tough.
Liked there was no autosync with early cdjs, you still had to use your ears. I liked having a physical object a cd, rather than memory stick, felt like a link to vinyl in someway, even though it is emulation.
There is always an emphasis on playing two tracks at the same time, beat matching, in truth, you dont always need to be doing that.
Power downs, sudden cue drops for contrast, use of pause, gradual fade outs, etc all these things can be used.
Completely agree! Thank you so much for watching!
I started DJ with vinyl and i love the progress of tehnology that give us today how we can DJ
Ive been djing for 37 yrs i still use vinyl & always will I use serato w my turntables for parties & vinyl at home I dont even own a cdj or controller
Back in the 90's and 2000's in LA's underground warehouse parties, many Chicago house DJs would spin a record upside down and backwards. Try that with a CD.
Every sunday i do my live streams 100% vinyl. I have been doing this since 98. In the meantime i used a 4 channel controller for it but now use a pioneer djm800. Love it! When doing vinyl sets i wanted it to be the real thing not needing a pc to be able to mix. Btw. Look at the grooves shows when breaks come. Little bit the same as that wave form display.
Besides the vinyl setup i also have a rx3. Great thing to use and as far as i know almost the same as a cdj.
Digital is different. More clean.
Great video👍👍
Nice one mate, thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts
Excellent explanation. I have been a vinyl DJ since the late 80's and have thousands of House, Soul, Funk, Hip Hop, and other genre of records. You are spot on about the art of mixing vinyl, it's very hard to learn at first and looping and scratching takes the difficulty to an whole other level. I'm glad I mastered mixing vinyl, it is the purest form. But on saying this, I also went down the digital route, with controllers and also DVS. I love the creativity you can do with the digital side of DJing. If digital was coffee and analogue was tea, some people drink only coffee, some only tea, I drink both and enjoy supping each equally. I stopped feeling guilty of using DVS and digital rather than analogue vinyl, when I saw my hero's, DJ Sneak, Grandmaster Flash, Skratch Bastard and Mix Master Mike, using DVS. 😅If it's good enough for them and not lose credibility, then it's good enough for me, I thought. 😂
I enjoyed watching this, you know your stuff. Respect, peace and love.
Thank you so much for watching and leaving your thoughts. I’m glad you enjoyed the video!
Vinyl for me of course - i also use Serato with SL3 occasionally, but always such a pleasure to pick my records from the shelves PS: have never tried CDjs ever ...
Key Quote: "You gotta,do ALL of the work by ur ears"
Great video man. Really good way of explaining this contrast and differences between vinyl and digital. I started in 1996 and my dream was to compete in a world competition. It took me 9 years to get a chance to audition for a spot. You had to audition for judges just to get on brackets back then. I've since competed in 3 DMC world Championships and got my butt kicked all 3 times. Lol point being after all the years I still prefer the feel of moving platters and vinyl. I use DVS whenever possible but have grown accustomed to the CDJs as well because they are the standard now. Best way to train yourself is the old way with the least amount of extras possible. No fx nothing. Then work towards the new gear because it will make a whole lot more sense and using it to one's advantage will be more effective. Like learning to drive a manual transmission. Sure you can buy an automatic and never need that knowledge but one day you might find yourself stranded and the only option is a manual to get you home. If you learn that way first you can drive anything with a motor and it could be new or old it won't matter you could literally drive anything. So if you can mix on vinyl with a simple 2 channel mixer then going to the controller next with all those features and extras will be a much easier. It's not an accident that the overall layout hasn't changed in 30 years 2 decks and a mixer in the middle. All in ones are made to feel the same way.
Thank you for watching and the kind words! Glad it was useful!
Been dj-ing since 1986 when I got some sl 1200s the silver ones then in the 90s I got 1210s I've tried CDjs and the Pioneer controllers and played out in clubs using digital systems but nothing beats mixing on turntables also I like the way vinyl sounds digital music can be to clean to my ear
So, I started DJ'ing in 1998 on vinyl (I prefer to call 'm records), but I went on to the digital age in DJ'ing. Of course I performed on CDJ's, but I rather use my Roland DJ-505 in combination with the Roland TB-303 and Roland TR-909 and several other tech stuff than CDJ's and a mixer. I'm also more of a fan of RANE stuff and Denon DJ, mostly because Pioneer DJ (AlphaTheta) isn't as good as some people want you to believe (in fact they're terribly built, but that's another story). People often call me a noob DJ because I use a DJ controller in my home studio, but little do they know that I in fact started out in the DJ world mixing cassette tapes back in 1994 using a back then prototype of the later released Roland DJ-2000 mixer. I have learned it the hard way, now using the easy stuff. Mixing on vinyl isn't that hard, but if you have no feeling for rhythm and still desire to become a DJ, it will be hard. Very hard. In that case, the more SC5000/SC6000 tabletops from Denon DJ would suit you better. That said, as mentioned before, I'm not a fan of Pioneer DJ gear. They aren't durable, replacement parts are way too expensive and most CDJ's won't last a decade without RMA's in or out of warranty at least once. My Denon DJ SC2900M tabletops (still have them, don't use them anymore though) still work and haven't seen any RMA at all. And they've been used every weekend for over a decade.
Thank you for watching and for sharing your experiences/ thoughts 🙂.
Will always be a Vinyl DJ at heart, but I also love DJ/Music tech and realize that a lot of the things we had to do as vinyl DJs are no longer required in the digital world, which makes for more tricks or mash ups. The comparisons will never end though, lol. Love both sides.
Completely agree! Thank you for watching
Great video. Loved working on the vinyl. Think you forgot to mention time remaining. You had to know your records and keep an eye on the tone arm as to where it was on the vinyl.
Need to get myself a deck to get some of my records back out.
Congratulations on views.
Yes such a good point you really needed to know your music inside out! Plus you really needed a sturdy DJ booth! Thanks for watching and the kind words mate
@@djkarlthomas most welcome. Love your content.
It was great DJing on vinyl back in the day, but I prefer the ease of CDJ’s I remember having one CDJ in our club in Tenerife in 99, and I hated it, but it has evolved, I had 3 large boxes of tunes travelling from UK wasn’t cheap, now just a USB stick and you have thousands of tunes,
Completely agree! Thank you for watching
The best turntables i ever used was the Numark TTX Digital, it had pitch reader and held a beat so well, Technics are good but preferred the Numarks.
I remember those! The torque was insane too! And the little blue backlit displays!
@@djkarlthomas yes mate, god i miss those bad boys
@@djkarlthomas you needed to be a bodybuilder to lift one too 🤣
@@J.A.M.17.11 hahahaha
In my opinion, an Vinyl djing is like driving an old manual car without fancy electric wires in it. You have to learn it how to operate it by yourself.
But digital CDJ's are more like an modern car with fancy electric wires in it, showing everything in details basically.
Ich denk das Hauptproblem ist das viele CDJ-User einfach nicht die Fähigkeiten wie Loopen und sonstiges nutzen sondern einfach ganz klassisch wie ein Vinyl-User einfach nur einen Übergang machen und fertig.
Desweiteren gibt es auch Möglichkeiten wie Loops etc. Für Vinyl, man muss es aber halt extra pressen lassen. Auch find ich es mittlerweile viel interessanter mit zwein oder drein identischen Schallplatten selbst Effekte wie Reverb Flanger etc. Mit Schallplatten zu erzeugen. Das ist alles möglich man muss es nur wissen wie und dann üben üben üben.
BUT NOW IN ENGLISH
this is maybe the best Video for explaining the differents about Digital and analog DJing
you can enjoy both coming from both worlds
and still use a cdj like a turntable with extras
It’s a artwork when mixing on vinyl, like a work man’s trade, you learn it to be the best, like any other trade, but it’s now like a sync button, I call a photocopy machine”
Real art work, out heart and solo into some art works, now we have, like a Ai and his artwork is the same or even better but not a real
Trade person” with the passion for his work” I’m moving to Djj 200 to macbook but still looking to make it feel like a vinyl deck
I wonder what those vinyl fanboys would think about Serato? Would they count using control records as "real" DJing? I doubt it since Serato uses music on a laptop to work so they might still say it's fake
Haha so many opinions on this topic that’s for sure!
Im vinyl fanboy that uses Serato. I use Serato, so I can preserve my real vinyl. I could care less about Contoller records. But if you scratch up my Biggie singles that are fetching 70 bucks nowadays on Ebay, I'd be upset. I only cheat on Serato matching speeds. Digital readout is faster than me listening to the speed and matching it.
I use control vinyl with serato sometimes, its nice to be able to add some gimmicks to a rougher house mix say, loops, limited effects and to play 2 of the same tune together on occasion - as well as being able to play a tune you cant get on vinyl
And finally, ART to TECH......
As a dj 4 40 yrs using vinyl is more of feeling vibe everything else is skills bpm and using stickers on ur vinyl makes it easier to use
CD is frame rate.
Vinyl is moving physically from record through the needle and out the speaker.
Audio quality is not the issue.
That's my feeling anyway.
:)
Nice video. There certainly is something magical when you are trying to find the right vinyl, when you take it out from the envelope and putting on the deck. P.S.: Nothing against CDjs. Played few times on the cd and was actually quite fun. 😎
So true! Thanks for watching
i started on vinyl, but love my ddj100.
Great video, I mix on both vinyl and digital. I've been mixing since 98 n believe the digital revolution as been great on the pocket 😂😂. But I still love ❤️ mixing my vinyl, and whatever genre I'm playing:)
Love that! Thank you for watching
The reason that a vinyl Dj is so passionate about vinyl over Cdjs or controllers….. is the simple fact that on vinyl you can’t SYNC…. That’s it.
2:50 not only information but also functionality.
There are a lot of controllers and things that emulate vinyl nowadays, its way better to buy a Rane Performer or a Pioneer REV 7 if you want to have the best of both worlds - vinyl feelign and digital audio.
Oh and people on comments are claiming that only Vinyl DJS mix by ear, thats a lie, I use a controller and I always mix by ear, i dont need the screen for anything, i just use it coz its more affordable.
If i could have a standalone player I would prefer. But its way too expensive in my country.
Also, there are DJs that play with turntables with timecode/phase and use sync on their songs.
Great vid brother. This will always divide the masses.
Thank you for the kind words. I agree and so this wasn’t made to try and create more division but more to show where that passion potentially comes from.
@@djkarlthomas I really love the conversation the beat lock button creates.
This Things Are Pioneering❤
I started out Vinyl when i was 15 and when i turned 18 i got a pair of Pioneer nexus 2000’s on finance and honestly it was a breeze compared to vinyl. Anyone who really wanted to can learn how to mix on CDJ’s, Vinyl definitely take a hell a lot more skill for sure
Was always amused by the fear in a cross fade DJ’s eyes when I would turn up and start setting up 1210’s. Even now you can still do more on vinyl than you can with cd but most have not looked deep enough to realise it
Damn right records are still viable even in 2024 I still own my 1200mk2 also own cdj900 and a Rane controller I like technology in not stuck in the past Starting of in 1987 records which I still have all of them over the many years before going to cds, have many of them as well. Yes beat matching is knowing all your records and where you want to blend. It’s much more challenging but it’s still fun to use your ears instead of your eyes on a laptop screen.
Nice one!
The bottom line is this. Turntables take more skill. It took me 5+ years to get good enough to play the biggest clubs in Miami. The only downside to turntables back then was that analog would not sound as good or as loud because most clubs or concerts didn't have good enough equipment to properly process the analog signals. I remember being at a concert with RUN DMC and they were complaining that Jay's turntables didn't sound as loud as the CDJs - and there is truth to that. But now you can run a digital signal out of turntables and have both. Ever see a DMC competition with DJs using CDJ's or laptops? No! Because it would be boring as shit. That's why DMC only allows turntables - because it takes real skill. It's like playing a guitar vs. guitar hero.
Great informative video cheers!
Thank you for watching
Only one man to thank for takeing the truntable making it an istrument herbie hankock man is a legend wonder what he woud say about digital crap where any one can mix or tweek knobs and jump around like a twonk
About the BPM in Vinyl. You could roughly calculate the bpm if you wanted to. Let's say one track is 145 an the other 152. Difference is 7, so about 5%. Then you move the speed slider of the 145 to +5.
Completely agree…but my point is working out what the bpm is in the first place and you don’t have the exact read out on tempo slider so you never know exactly the speed you are pitching your records up and down to. DJing with traditional vinyl is about using your ears and knowing your tracks inside out
@@djkarlthomas I know I have 2x 1210 mk7 with the ortofon concorde century edition
So how do you do the calculation to the 3rd, 4th, 5th etc record? You’ve calculated the difference between the original speed for the first pair but ain’t no way you’re going to be doing the math for the rest. I doubt any vinyl DJ does this.. easiest to just queue it up and make the adjustment. Takes a few seconds to get it locked in
Really? who is this guy? I never knew what the BPM of a Vinyl is.
@@livinagoodlife We used mix without ever manipulating the vinyl(or platter-(don't touch the platter)). Tempo slider mixing only was the game.
Great explanation. Great video.
Thank you! I’m glad it was useful!!
Deejay= DJ.= Discjockey (vinyl) the real Dj. is in vinyl set forever
I started DJing in 1979 and i still own a pair of 1200's that i purchased in 1985. and i can still rock my 1200's
cdj's and controllers it ain't what you got in front of you is how you play. i admit that djing with wax aka vinyl is hard
So, let's all rock theses party's and have a good time
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Nice one mate! Thanks for watching. All up for having a good time haha
Unfortunately engineers at clubs often have no clue how to set up turntables. I've had arguments with them for putting monitor speakers on the desk next to the turntables.
The other thing is the crowd. There is no concept of skipping the needle anymore, people just don't know about that, so people mah be jumping all over, and again, the engineer has probably put them on a rickety desk which even the subs can rattle.
Then there is the condition of the decks. Technics are good only if they have been serviced, otherwise they can be really terrible.
These are the reasons I stopped, nothing to do with the format itself, it's just impractical. I love the tactile feel of vinyl, and the challenge. As someone who digitised and synced their record collection, I can tell you, vinyl does not stay in time, it's constant upkeep.
I love digital now though, cue points, sync and easy access to a million filters make it much more creative than just playing one track after another.
Also, I don't have to reorganise my collection after every gig.
Now this I do agree with. I remember when clubs had the turntables on proper solid concrete risers. Don’t see any of that now! The needles don’t stand a chance!
I believe that all djs should learn to beat match without visual aids. You never know what kind of situation you may find yourself in. As long you have two audio outputs and a mixer to go from one song to the next you should be able keep your crowd going. That being said whatever makes life easier or makes your performance more interesting, take full advantage of it. It's a bit like travelling from A to B. First man learned how to walk. then man invented the cycle and only later on came motor vehicles. Depending on our circumstances today we sometimes walk and sometimes use other means of conveyance depending on circumstances. As for visual aids, after a time and some dedication you will find yourself in a position to roughly guess the approximate +/-5bpm range of a song by listening to it then it's a matter of minor adjustment. Back in the 80s when I first started showing interest in dj, I found it quite difficult to beat match. The way I overcame that was by humming a song I knew the rough bpm with the song I'm playing. For instance if I am playing a song and I hum along faithless by insomnia and see the pace seems match I would know the track would be in around the 125-130 bpm range. Even today with how far we have advanced with dj equipment and with all the visual aids available, you will still hear me humming every now and then not out of necessity but because old habits die hard. I personally believe if you can tap your feet to a beat, with enough time, dedication and practice you can definitely be a successful DJ.
Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts! Wise words
looping was available with a Pioneer DJM 909 mixer even on vinyl
Fair point however I’m talking about traditional vinyl mixing before tech really came about to assist
I think the ultimate compromise is DVS, feel of vinyl with all the benefits of digital. Shame it's so pricey to set up and corperations like rekordbox forcing subscriptions to use it.
Life beyond the sync button
Technics 1210's mk2 for me every time 😎 I also have the 750 mixer
Niceeee really regret selling my 1210s
@@djkarlthomas Me too
Both are cool ! DJing on vinyl though, has an "underground" appeal..
Vinyl = everything by ear. Can the digital dJ's even get two tracks the same speed without the controller automatically doing it for them? Auto-Cue? Really?
Ey ich lege seit 1986 mit Technics 1210er auf und habe tatsächlich keine Ahnung wie das mit den Cdj funktioniert 😊
Habe es nie probiert.
Meine 1210er turntables habe ich immer noch 😉
The most important thing with vinyl mixing is your ears!!! Without ears/headphones, it's hard to mix on vinyl... with CDJs... nothing could be easier... everything is graphic, no need for ears, and it's this ease that I don't like. Ask a DJ who only mixes on CDJ to mix on vinyl... impossible...
Yeah you don't need bins if you got a cue point and bpm on a screen
Vinyl is pure joy and more fun.
CDJ’s give the illusion of skill. This gives people like Paris Hilton a platform to pretend they know what they’re doing. Vinyl is king.
Absolutely true but DJing isn't only about the skills, it is also about music taste, sometimes about creativity and about the crowds
Technics 12’10’s I own and will never change to cd 💿, too easy in my eyes? That’s just my opinion everyone
Vinyl hands down the best
Those who still use vinyl why not watching BW TV and using dial phones? :D
Living in the past.
Real DJ's (Vinyl Only!) are a dying breed! :(
One is designed for dj ing the other is designed for karaoke.
I learned on the karaoke ones👍🏼😊
Made simple..like comparing a ball point pen to a typewriter
The point is (without watching the complete clip, but I will :))
A vinyl DJ can pull up a monster set after 10 minutes on a CDJ, a DJ who is only used to play with auto sync, will have a hard time on a turntable.
Save the vinyl.. Greetings from Germany.
Vinyl of course
miss the analogue warmth yiou get from vinyl . I've only recently moved to cdj after a long exodus already wish i bought tt lol
That sound is unmatched 😍
@@djkarlthomas you know. You know ❤️
What about DVS? ... DJing digitally
on turntables
If you have watched this video- I do mention DVS and how I am focusing on traditional vinyl djing only in this particular video.
nice vinyl fam😎
Or a grand piano to a digital keyboard...
Vinyl is way better since the new kids can't cheat and beat match by ear. Lots of the new kids use auto BPM for these new controllers. It's kinda a betrayal to us oldschoolers . If u can beat match with cdjs/controllers then respect. But if your using auto BPM your faking it like lypsycing or Paris Hilton DJing. It's lame . No offence. Do the real.thing people. It's nice to see a dj mix and start to mess up then fix it on the fly. It's an art
vinyl means spinning( real dj's ). digital means pushing (wanna be's)
Vinyl is a skill if u can master it then CDJs will be a lot easier
Absolutely! Thanks for watching
People that use CDJs aren't DJing. Full stop. It's not fair to compare them. It's a completely different thing that has nothing to do with traditional DJing. EJ might be a better term. None of the skills of DJing present themselves at any point, the computer is beatmatching, looping, sampling and doing every other task a DJ does. EJing is basically just hitting the play button and triggering a bunch of effects. It's not even comparing apples to oranges. It's more like comparing the sea and the sky. They have zero overlap, other than music is involved in both cases.
There's other ways to DJ than vinyl..... Who knew?!
Vinyl is more entertaining to watch
I DJ on both vinyl turntables and Cdjs which I am happy doing :)
technics or pioneer?
Unfortunately this is a pioneer deck. Regret selling my technics many years ago
How much money make music?
pre analyse audio tracks to tag info something (vinyl biscuit?) vs why you can load a not pre analysed track @ cdj?
all things you remark are related to recordbox previously to use the tracks on a cdj, they are not inherent to CDJs.
you can tag on every record of your vinyl collection duration, bpms, point to scratch, your name and almost the same lazy info recordbox metadata uses after analyse the track.
... much better compare djing vs cdj without parafernalia. pure track vs pure track.
OR... compare not preanalyse vs analyse, reanalyse, quantize, cuemarks, beatmatch, etc. (you can use withpout a cdj, i.e. from the computer).
at the end... good luck with sunlight or screendamage display. you NEED the f* screen of the cdj to 'djing'... sad.
years ago, djing was something you had to do in the absolute darkness. loud volume, flashes, smoke machines... only possible with vinyls, hands and headphones.
and now, 2024... and hundred of buttons, millions of f* rgb and a lot of stupid 'features' on a ton of devices @ booth, dj's do lot LESS and mixes are much worse.
If u really want to be a good mixer, learn to mixing on vinyl and it helps to be better on digital!
Good advice for sure!
You are forgetting a few more aspects of DJ-ing with vinyl: 1) Weight. It's heavy traveling with a crate of vinyl. 2) Durability. Vinyl is not very durable. Play a record 20 times and you will start to hear the wear. Have to handle with a lot of care. Keep clean. So much worries with vinyl.
Completely agree however this video is focusing on the basics of mixing on vinyl vs cdj rather than the practical aspects of working with vinyl. Very good points though.
When you own a physical thing (vinyl), you take care of it. It's all part of the experience.
Your kinda right with the wear. I don't normally use my vinyl much. I download the tracks off of RUclips. and use those on my Serato. Same tracks, but now I cheat a little bit on speed matching now its displayed on the screen and I don't need my ears to match them for speed.
@@djdusted6485 Sure, I'm not saying you shouldn't. Definitely should! But, in such a harsch environment as DJ's are, vinyl is very vulnerable.
Vinyl will no wear out after 20 plays 😅😅😅😅 I've been playing my vinyl for 20 years and no issue
I'll stop you right there. All the info a vinyl dj needs is on the wax lol. You can see each break/bridge and drop. I am dj'ing digital and timecode for 12 years plus. Vinyl dj'ing since the 90's. I am one of the ones whos evolved but you have to aknowledge that vinyl dj's read the wax that's 101 even for your gen.
And what ‘gen’ would I be?
he's right. You get accustomed to groove reading the more you get to know each record. However going to digital is a not evolving, its technological degeneration. Kinda like people who don't know how to garden because they simply go to McDonalds. It's great you can garden and go to McDonalds Tho.