All.jokes aside its been.... a bit more bearable. Definateky still.hell, but at least skmetimes manageabke instead of the once in a blue moon even if we haveta face the Hawaii Hazard 9 times out of 10
@@davidnewhart2533 he is completely unstoppable. Rein can get a one shot, but he can also be cced and he has less control. It also leaves him vulnerable. It is worse.
I just realized the first 40 seconds of this video with complete silence no talking whatsoever is genuinely the most depressing overwatch gameplay I've ever seen.
@vopcracker3193 and then re-enter into the Tank Duo nightmare again. The game sucked as a Tank if whoever you ended up with didn't want to cooperate or just did their own thing. I think we forget that all too easily in OW2, and how frustrating Ladder play was as a Tank
@@fizzlock The game sucks if no one co-operates _in general; Bad Tank players are not a reason to gut out a core component of the game._ As it stands, the sole Tank in 5v5 can completely kill a match in the same way with even less skill expression: Mauga and Orisa end up just being glorified body shields without the formers crit proc to make him seem more effective. Meanwhile, the rest of the tanks are, especially at high level, simply outclassed by how easily they are either ignored or isolated from their team. As we see with Mauga as well, even giving Tanks *more damage* is still detrimental to the game, despite Tank really being the only class _left_ to put utility & power into with how strong DPS and Support were (before Mug meta). TL;DR: 6v6 would lead to a better designed OW2 if the lessons of 5v5 were implemented in its eventual return.
@vopcracker3193 Dude I kinda miss 6v6 at times as well, but some of the current Tank combos would be ridiculous. Friendly reminder that we never got rid of double shield before OW1 ended. That lasted for nearly 2 years after the GOATS meta which nearly lasted for 3. Both metas required a format change to fix. Two Tanks being able to cover each other's weaknesses and exert perfect control over the map's space was why the game got to be so stale in OW1, and nothing died except from burst damage. Now we're back in a similar spot, but it's mainly a burst damage issue than a format problem now, the numbers have gotten ridiculous while the healthbars have stayed relatively the same. I personally don't believe that 6v6 is the magic wand that would fix problems, I think it would just create more once again. You are obviously allowed to disagree
I found another rein only in comp today. Was like seeing a unicorn. He got railed, but it was beautiful to see a majestic rein only in the midst of the Mauga storm of 2023-2024 winter. Truly a blessing and sign of God that I am on the correct path.
I play Rein into Mauga, Currently GM 4, finished in top#500 last season with 80%, Rein, 20% D.VA if I need to carry my dps. Hard match-up for sure!! Shields his cardiac overdrive, yet when he ults and you have half or less shield, it's light's out for you! Hah.
I still remember the time a gold player told me that ramattra is pretty good into mauga, you just don't know how to play ramattra. Like don't get me wrong ramattra's shield is really good into mauga but other than that it's a very uphill battle
I thought the increasing number of cheaters was bad but having to play against mauga literally every game whether its qp, comp, or arcade is worse. Game is literally just not fun at all right now
They should bring all tanks up to maugas level,or at least stronger than they are now, then fix supports. Tanks should be feared cause there is only 1 that takes everything.
Healing and burst damage need to go down across the board. Buff Tank's personal survivability afterwards to compensate if you need, but rn high burst damage necessitates high heals to keep the tank up, which makes burst damage necessary to kill squishies, and the cycle continues viciously. You're either in position and alive on full, or you put a toe out of line when your Ana isn't looking at you and you explode. Friendly reminder that at one point, the most healing you could have on a team was Lucio+Mercy. Now considered the absolute worst support comp in the entire game.
If tanks became that strong I highly doubt they would need to nerf support. Chances are they would then need to buff dps which would then become " the useless role"
Uhh Hell no Mauga needs a nerf and no one needs to go up to that level do you not understand the hell you would create with that? Mauga deletes everything that isn’t another Mauga if all tanks could do that the game would just be ruined no point playing dps and support when if you peak you just die or get hit you just die it would literally just be a tank diff every match that would not be fun
I feel like even with him being broken with him having basic counters and everyone knowing the counters and good swaps he’s in a way balanced, unless you just don’t like this kinda meta I think he should stay this way
@@Fishyking1000 there is no counter other than pray the sipports fall asleep, even the "best" counters dont kill.him fast enough, they either farm ults off him (I.e hanzo and Rat), or they just tryta one tap other people, i.e sojourn, and pray thats enough
Like if you think hes balanced youre uust saying youre like... silver or youre a support main lol (Ive had this confirmed liks 3 times just on this one commect section lol)
@@airamnunez9214 idk man hog, dva, sig all good tanks to go against him, hog maybe not but when I play him it works sometimes, and you named the dps and supports so there’s options for all roles and of course manga v magus is a options but boring so I don’t count it. And I play Winston dude, it happens but if the mauga actually tries to shoot someone other than the tank or you avoid him on tank, that also works
You don't just respect the Mauga, you fear the Mauga. The Mauga will invade your room, take your lunch money and make you buy the worst skin in the Shop if you don't fear him.
I had someone absolutely destroy me in an encounter or two with JQ so I switched to her and unintentionally diffed her to the point where she went through half the tanks, ended up ad Mauga and won the 2nd round of capture.......safe to say I then went to Mauga because "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" and my team won the final round, in QP btw but the other team was very obviously butthurt I kinda rolled them with JQ and having good support and DPS behind me to also roll. We didn't mean to roll them initially but when they rolled us, just had to purposefully do it back
Mauga would be fine if the gameplay wasn't so boring, especially against other Mauga's. I love shooting into a tank getting hyper focused on healing when I'm getting hyper focused on healing so it takes forever for one of us to die. So fun, thanks ow devs!
I feel like even with him being broken with him having basic counters and everyone knowing the counters and good swaps he’s in a way balanced, unless you just don’t like this kinda meta I think he should stay this way
Listen, Its been happening for a while now lol.. There are some match where my DPS are kinda 10-10 8-14 etc, and I am +ve as a Tank... So I just swap to Mauga and then win by hard carrying(tysm supports for investing). You gotta see the salt on the opponents end lmao because I swapped to Mauga and won.
I understand why people hate on mauga but i love him, He feels like what tank should be, a threat to actually make people go "Oh shit we actually have to put damage into him to take him down" not just walk around him like most other tanks
@@THORODINSON289 Then just buff the other tanks then and don't nerf Mauga. Lol. Bro remember when tanks were giga-strong in the beginning of OW2. They should have never nerfed the tanks in the first place.
@@davidnewhart2533 You kinda right tbh and I proposed that to a friend a couple weeks back. But you know damn well, they’re never letting that shit happen. Might as well have 6v6 return tbh if they wanna keep tanks like this
MAUGA SHOULD: - LOSE ALL ARMOR - HAVE REDUCED FIRE RATE AND AMMO, BALANCE DE DAMG TO FIRE RATE RATIO, LIKE HEAVY BUT SLOW SHOOTING SOMETHING LIKE BASTION PRIMARY - DMG FALL OFF INCREASED AND THAT SHOULD CHANGE A LOT, CAUSE HE BROKE AF THO THE POINT ITS BORING
So, these changes would make him worse than when he was in the test servers, which was already mediocre at best. He definitely needs to be nerfed but that’s overdoing it. Every tank should be at least viable. When doing nerfs/changes, you can’t change 5 things at once. Do two or three tops, see how it goes, adjust from there.
nah nah nah on the fire rate front hes got rotary cannon that shit should go BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Mauga doesn't scare me. Fat man with minigun, TF2 had plenty of that. I only fear what he might do to the balance of the game. Hopefully there's less of **that** in the future.
When venture and space ranger are released I promise this game will do its regular showing of flipping on its ass then radio silence from the devs for about a month
I feel like even with him being broken with him having basic counters and everyone knowing the counters and good swaps he’s in a way balanced, unless you just don’t like this kinda meta I think he should stay this way
im glad tank players have are having an easier time playing the game, i just wish it didnt mean playing a character like mauga
HHHAAAAAHAHAHAHHAHAAAAA ahhh this is funny
All.jokes aside its been.... a bit more bearable. Definateky still.hell, but at least skmetimes manageabke instead of the once in a blue moon even if we haveta face the Hawaii Hazard 9 times out of 10
hawaii
As a support I rarely know what's going on whenever my Mauga ults😭😭 I be so lost cux wtf is going onnn💀💀
Lol tanks having a good time ru a support player
How Mauga is allowed to have a better charge than Rein and a ranged weapon is beyond me
Mauga's charge is not better than Reinhardt's.
@@davidnewhart2533 he is completely unstoppable. Rein can get a one shot, but he can also be cced and he has less control. It also leaves him vulnerable.
It is worse.
@@FrostReach66 Mauga run also has a mini shatter at the end of the charge 🤣
5:00 He really tried to turn that into "im not trapped in here with you, you're trapped in here with me" lol
I just realized the first 40 seconds of this video with complete silence no talking whatsoever is genuinely the most depressing overwatch gameplay I've ever seen.
Then you must not watch a lot of overwatch
Bruh, what are you on? It's comp, and he's playing the game. Nothing out of the ordinary and definitely nothing "depressing"
i love how mauga feels but i just feel bad when the other person doesnt have him and we just steam roll\
I can get by with Ram against Mauga... Usually... 😔
The less people have fun in this game, the more likely we return to 6v6 and end the balance nightmare once and for all
@vopcracker3193 and then re-enter into the Tank Duo nightmare again.
The game sucked as a Tank if whoever you ended up with didn't want to cooperate or just did their own thing. I think we forget that all too easily in OW2, and how frustrating Ladder play was as a Tank
@@fizzlock The game sucks if no one co-operates _in general; Bad Tank players are not a reason to gut out a core component of the game._ As it stands, the sole Tank in 5v5 can completely kill a match in the same way with even less skill expression: Mauga and Orisa end up just being glorified body shields without the formers crit proc to make him seem more effective. Meanwhile, the rest of the tanks are, especially at high level, simply outclassed by how easily they are either ignored or isolated from their team. As we see with Mauga as well, even giving Tanks *more damage* is still detrimental to the game, despite Tank really being the only class _left_ to put utility & power into with how strong DPS and Support were (before Mug meta).
TL;DR: 6v6 would lead to a better designed OW2 if the lessons of 5v5 were implemented in its eventual return.
@vopcracker3193 Dude I kinda miss 6v6 at times as well, but some of the current Tank combos would be ridiculous. Friendly reminder that we never got rid of double shield before OW1 ended. That lasted for nearly 2 years after the GOATS meta which nearly lasted for 3. Both metas required a format change to fix. Two Tanks being able to cover each other's weaknesses and exert perfect control over the map's space was why the game got to be so stale in OW1, and nothing died except from burst damage. Now we're back in a similar spot, but it's mainly a burst damage issue than a format problem now, the numbers have gotten ridiculous while the healthbars have stayed relatively the same. I personally don't believe that 6v6 is the magic wand that would fix problems, I think it would just create more once again. You are obviously allowed to disagree
I found another rein only in comp today. Was like seeing a unicorn. He got railed, but it was beautiful to see a majestic rein only in the midst of the Mauga storm of 2023-2024 winter. Truly a blessing and sign of God that I am on the correct path.
Playing Mauga into Rein should be considered a cardinal sin and get you the fast pass to hell
@@MothDax haha yes
I play Rein into Mauga, Currently GM 4, finished in top#500 last season with 80%, Rein, 20% D.VA if I need to carry my dps. Hard match-up for sure!! Shields his cardiac overdrive, yet when he ults and you have half or less shield, it's light's out for you! Hah.
@@alanbyrne2109 I’m gm 2 rn, hopefully I’ll see you around!
@koptland it's Kenshiro#1420
Heck yeah!! My Mauga match-ups for a 5-6, min game, I'll usually have around 18k-22k damage blocked on the sheild lol.
I still remember the time a gold player told me that ramattra is pretty good into mauga, you just don't know how to play ramattra. Like don't get me wrong ramattra's shield is really good into mauga but other than that it's a very uphill battle
Realistically if mauga weren't so broken ram would be what you'd play against mauga, he's just so broken that it doesn't even matter
He was, until they GIGA BUFFED the fuck out of Mauga.
I thought the increasing number of cheaters was bad but having to play against mauga literally every game whether its qp, comp, or arcade is worse. Game is literally just not fun at all right now
They should bring all tanks up to maugas level,or at least stronger than they are now, then fix supports. Tanks should be feared cause there is only 1 that takes everything.
I hate how we’re in a constant cycle of god tier raid boss tanks or immortal supports
Healing and burst damage need to go down across the board. Buff Tank's personal survivability afterwards to compensate if you need, but rn high burst damage necessitates high heals to keep the tank up, which makes burst damage necessary to kill squishies, and the cycle continues viciously. You're either in position and alive on full, or you put a toe out of line when your Ana isn't looking at you and you explode.
Friendly reminder that at one point, the most healing you could have on a team was Lucio+Mercy. Now considered the absolute worst support comp in the entire game.
If tanks became that strong I highly doubt they would need to nerf support. Chances are they would then need to buff dps which would then become " the useless role"
Uhh Hell no Mauga needs a nerf and no one needs to go up to that level do you not understand the hell you would create with that? Mauga deletes everything that isn’t another Mauga if all tanks could do that the game would just be ruined no point playing dps and support when if you peak you just die or get hit you just die it would literally just be a tank diff every match that would not be fun
By fix supports you mean nerf their offensive powers, right?
Mauga is what ball wish it was
Man they’re gonna have to nerf this man into oblivion aren’t they?
I love the part where Flats said "No Bitch Shit" and No bitch's all over the enemy tank, truely marvellous stuff!
....please nerf mauga I beg of you
I feel like even with him being broken with him having basic counters and everyone knowing the counters and good swaps he’s in a way balanced, unless you just don’t like this kinda meta I think he should stay this way
@@Fishyking1000 there is no counter other than pray the sipports fall asleep, even the "best" counters dont kill.him fast enough, they either farm ults off him (I.e hanzo and Rat), or they just tryta one tap other people, i.e sojourn, and pray thats enough
Like if you think hes balanced youre uust saying youre like... silver or youre a support main lol
(Ive had this confirmed liks 3 times just on this one commect section lol)
@@airamnunez9214 idk man hog, dva, sig all good tanks to go against him, hog maybe not but when I play him it works sometimes, and you named the dps and supports so there’s options for all roles and of course manga v magus is a options but boring so I don’t count it. And I play Winston dude, it happens but if the mauga actually tries to shoot someone other than the tank or you avoid him on tank, that also works
@@airamnunez9214 ha your wrong (I’m bronze ☝️🤓)
5:30 tracer blinks in, executes sojourn and then leaves.
Glad flats is playing baldur’s gate 3. I played overwatch from 2016-2019 and I can honestly tell you outside of Route 66 idk wtf is going on
title is def real and usual mauga gameplay lol, but i was more focused on subtwink the whole video icl
Wait did they change the points between first and second part of Route 66. They don't fully close now?
Really feel like you should of had Ana, and kiri as supports
7:25 RIP Doom
What an intense battlepass diff.
I understand that the lava mauga skin is the best skin that he has but with the golden guns it looks like they are constantly unrenderd
You don't just respect the Mauga, you fear the Mauga. The Mauga will invade your room, take your lunch money and make you buy the worst skin in the Shop if you don't fear him.
Fear the Flauga!
I don’t have Mauga yet but is there any reason why it’s better to fire one of the guns and not always both?
Massive bloom when firing both at once, good for short range tank fights though
Fear maungaring
I had someone absolutely destroy me in an encounter or two with JQ so I switched to her and unintentionally diffed her to the point where she went through half the tanks, ended up ad Mauga and won the 2nd round of capture.......safe to say I then went to Mauga because "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" and my team won the final round, in QP btw but the other team was very obviously butthurt I kinda rolled them with JQ and having good support and DPS behind me to also roll. We didn't mean to roll them initially but when they rolled us, just had to purposefully do it back
Winton strong. Winton scared. Winton dead.
Mauga would be fine if the gameplay wasn't so boring, especially against other Mauga's. I love shooting into a tank getting hyper focused on healing when I'm getting hyper focused on healing so it takes forever for one of us to die. So fun, thanks ow devs!
Buff mauga
So far in my adventures with Mauga I have found there isn't really much he cannot run through or out of.
It annoys people a lot.
I feel like even with him being broken with him having basic counters and everyone knowing the counters and good swaps he’s in a way balanced, unless you just don’t like this kinda meta I think he should stay this way
@@Fishyking1000 exactly. Lets say the anas are slowly learning to wait for the stomp before sleeping.
This literally proves my point lol
Listen,
Its been happening for a while now lol.. There are some match where my DPS are kinda 10-10
8-14 etc, and I am +ve as a Tank... So I just swap to Mauga and then win by hard carrying(tysm supports for investing). You gotta see the salt on the opponents end lmao because I swapped to Mauga and won.
Mauga is tearing overwatch a new asshole at the moment
uninstalled the game... first time ever since the OW1 beta.... this game is soooo fucking trash now. Pay to win and boring as fuck.
I understand why people hate on mauga but i love him, He feels like what tank should be, a threat to actually make people go "Oh shit we actually have to put damage into him to take him down" not just walk around him like most other tanks
Agreed just could've been done a little better instead of just padding his stats
You right. But.. what about.. EVERY OTHER TANK?
@@THORODINSON289
Then just buff the other tanks then and don't nerf Mauga. Lol. Bro remember when tanks were giga-strong in the beginning of OW2. They should have never nerfed the tanks in the first place.
@@davidnewhart2533 You kinda right tbh and I proposed that to a friend a couple weeks back. But you know damn well, they’re never letting that shit happen. Might as well have 6v6 return tbh if they wanna keep tanks like this
Mauma wakiki
I no no wanna play mauga
man... i wish i had a credit card
I know it’s a long shot but the meta where dps is busted is gonna hit like crack in the 80s
There was a meta where dps was busted. It's the the one shot meta.
@@mage0534 ahh yeah doom fist scatter etc yeah but a new would be crazy
I only play Mauga if the enemy tank is being super toxic to my team
Anyone else noticed the sym’s name?
nerf the mauga
Nice
Buff tanks or nerf Mauga?
I much prefer a tank being oppressive over a support but at the same time im a doom player and i refuse to touch mauga unless they go him
MAUGA SHOULD:
- LOSE ALL ARMOR
- HAVE REDUCED FIRE RATE AND AMMO, BALANCE DE DAMG TO FIRE RATE RATIO, LIKE HEAVY BUT SLOW SHOOTING SOMETHING LIKE BASTION PRIMARY
- DMG FALL OFF INCREASED
AND THAT SHOULD CHANGE A LOT, CAUSE HE BROKE AF THO THE POINT ITS BORING
So, these changes would make him worse than when he was in the test servers, which was already mediocre at best. He definitely needs to be nerfed but that’s overdoing it. Every tank should be at least viable.
When doing nerfs/changes, you can’t change 5 things at once. Do two or three tops, see how it goes, adjust from there.
@@loki7701 definitely needs balance, at least lose the armor completely, lore wise i mean, look at hog, they básically the same, so no armor lol
nah nah nah on the fire rate front hes got rotary cannon that shit should go BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
More bronze roast when? Please? No pressure
Mauga doesn't scare me. Fat man with minigun, TF2 had plenty of that. I only fear what he might do to the balance of the game. Hopefully there's less of **that** in the future.
When venture and space ranger are released I promise this game will do its regular showing of flipping on its ass then radio silence from the devs for about a month
Bro I feel bad playing him most of the roster becomes useless when isolated
Correct me if im wrong but i believe zen/ana symetra soujourn dva/jq wash mauga
hi
Cringe Mauga. No respect for ppl who play busted characters. No gg.
AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! ❤
I feel like even with him being broken with him having basic counters and everyone knowing the counters and good swaps he’s in a way balanced, unless you just don’t like this kinda meta I think he should stay this way
Balanced my ass,you either have an Anna or your probably gonna lose,and none of the tanks actually match up well against him
@@Bigotsandwich1995
You don't need Ana to beat Mauga. 😂
Mauga ruined this game for me and so many other no fucking way they should be doing 30k plus every single game
No
Mauga better get a Pro Wrestling skin and they need to make a *Million Dollar Cage Match* game mode 🫡
Mauga, has ruined this game. Even nurfed. I've been playing for years and never seen this much hate from everyone.
Mauga is such a crap skill-less crutch character I swear.