I bought my first road bike recently - a 12+ year old Raleigh Airlite 100 for under £50. It needed tubes & tyres and a bit of work/tlc which I was able to do myself and actually added to the whole experience. It's been on the road for just over a month and so far we've covered around 220 miles. I absolutely love it.
@@gcn Thanks. I posted it on the GCN App bike vault if you want to see it. The GCN videos helped me a lot with getting it sorted, e.g. especially with indexing the gears and setting up my SPD cleats. Thanks and keep up the great work.
Beginners won't be racing and don't need carbon frames. Get a cheap Triban road bike from Decathlon and ride it for a year. Use that experience to decide what your next bike should be.
Just got triban rc100 yesterday and today did the first ride and I am super happy with it. I'm a beginner in all of this, so that was exactly my approach. If I commit to this fully, in 2 years I can buy some fancy one
@@dedeeee617 in a month from now please send an update. 🙏🏼it’s been 2 months since my prévois comment so I’ve already gotten a bike but I’m always open to suggestions
This is the gold comment , rc100 triban with a drop handle is the only bike a beginner should buy if they are a bit hesitant about spending a hefty amount.
As an avid mountain biker, just got into road biking. Comfort was my first priority. Been 2 months with my Cannondale Synapse carbon 3 and couldn’t be happier. It is addicting…
1:33 It is so important that people continue to support their LBS, especially when considering a bike purchase. Many shops will have bikes they need to clear out and are less expensive than their online counterparts. Plus when purchasing at a shop they will have a vested interest in making sure you’re a satisfied customer going forward, unlike many online retailers. One of the most valuable things a bike owner can have is a good LBS that they trust and support.
Supporting your local bike shop is a great thing to do! The support will come straight back at your with great service and a helping hand. Do you have a local shop that you would like to shout out? 🎉
It is also important to shop around local bike shops. One of my local ones had a bike $100 over online price and passed on a 4% credit card fee so I bough it at another shop. Both small business one with a better business model.
Unless your local LBS is rubbish. My local LBS made a mess of warranty repairs on my bike on a few occasions, leading to parts coming off on the trail. Since then I bought all my own tools and do all maintenance myself.
I've been riding this bike for 7 years now! ruclips.net/user/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L It was a great bike the day I got it, put it together, and went on my first ride; more importantly it's an even better bike today. I've ridden trails, street, and skatepark all on this bike. I have replaced almost every part on the bike. Some stuff has broken: derailleurs, wheels, shifter. Everything else were upgrades. The only ramaing original parts are the frame, bottom bracket, and crank set. BB and cranks will be upgraded soon. The geometry isn't great but that is really the only draw back to how good a value this bike is. Even after all the money I've spent upgrading it's still a more affordable bike than I'd have bought from a proper bike shop, especially with full suspension. I've also learned a lot about bikes working on it over the years. It really is one of the best perchases I've ever made and hopefully it'll still be around for another 7 years.
Beginner here - I bought my first ever bike road bike exactly a year ago in March of 2022, its a good price/value Decathlon - Triban RC520, and I LOVE it since. I am also trying to keep it clean and tidy, I do basic mechanic adjusments on it, just put it together after its 1st Birthday - big cleaning session, I took it apart and washed/cleaned every part of it separately, learned a _lot_ of "how to" from GCN channel :) I hope for more thousand and thousand kms to come on its saddle :)
Similar story here, bought in Decathlon's Second Life a RC120. Unfortunately they did not have RC520 of my size and were not clear when it will be in the stock again so i decided for second hand. I am very pleased with my "entry level" bike and will be doing my first 100km ride next month.
Great stuff! Get stuck in and learn how that bikes works... it's the best way. We have a new GCN Tech series on beginner maintenance tip, you might find it helpful 👉ruclips.net/video/0U-2bT01POo/видео.html
The last tip is the best tip. Buy used for your first bike, and for that matter, buying used for your second, third, or all your bikes is a good idea as well. Bikes don't hold their value well at all, so that bike that cost $3,000 new is only worth half that or less a few years later. You can easily find a good aluminum framed bike that's in great condition with a decent group set for $500, maybe a bit more. I would highly suggest bringing someone along with you to look at the bike that knows about bikes. If you don't know anyone like that, do your research, and always take it for a test ride. Best of luck!
Great tip. When I returned to cycling 20 years ago after a long "layoff" (marriage to a woman who thought cycling was "inappropriate") I went secondhand and found a handbuilt steel-framed, Campag Record equipped bike for £600 Not handbuilt for me, but it was a perfect fit, nevertheless! A bit old school, but it's just right for me.
@1:33 : That. My own experience twice and for my daughters, if you are doing anything more than the casual kind of riding, do not get drawn by sexy online marketing or buy online. Go to a well recommended local shop where they will work with you to find out what is best for your needs. Bikes come in many variations on material, geometry, fit, style, material, etc., even across the same brand and purpose, the only way is to go to a bike shop and sit on stuff. Second hand is a great start if you can find one locally only, not online. This is assuming you don't get accidentally lucky with a second hand eBay purchase - and we know that's definitely happening to you ;)
I just bought a second hand TREK Madone 3.5 with an Ultegra group set on EBay. Pristine condition, well looked after, rode only in Spain, never in the rain. Same price as the cheapest road bike at Halfords. First road bike after riding a MTB for donkeys years and I'm loving it.
Love this series....was in this position last year and found a slightly used Specialized Allez. Aluminum frame, carbon fork, rim brakes. Definitely see myself upgrading in the future, but its been a nice starting point for me.
@@gcn I love riding along the Mississippi river. I can adjust my loop distance depending on what bridges I cross and how I'm feeling that day. Now I just need the snow to melt in Minnesota!
Manon, when I started I didn't have much money at all, yet I still wanted to get away. My first bike was a purple Magna hardtail MB that I bought on sale at Target for $60 in December 2004. I rode that thing all over Hollywood, Topanga, Malibu, etc. And, yeah, I got extra exercise on the steep hills of the Santa Monica Mountains by getting off to push. That bike weighed about 55 lbs, so I got muscles from lifting it on and off the bus out to Pacific Coast Highway. It lasted til 2011! I now have more money saved and am doing a bike build on a Specialized Roubaix carbon frame. It's o.k. to start w/a lower quality bike and work towards something better. You work w/what you've got at the time.
Great video Manon! I second the idea of not spending a lot before you really know what type of riding you want to do. I bought a 40 year old steel road bike to dip my toe in the water with the local cycling club. I still use it but ultimately bought a new touring bike which I could also use for commuting, shopping, touring/ Bikepacking and club rides. Keep this content coming. Problem with a beginner buying second hand carbon = deadly hidden cracks. Safer with steel/aluminium!
@@gcn I'm not sure. For me, I load my bikes heavy anyway (more so when my own weight is up). I like the 'frame flex' of steel and if the Kona Sutra Touring Bike (drop bar, steel frame/fork) is rigged without baggage, I can easily keep up with a fairly fast club ride. I love the comfort of steel frame combined with supple sidewall tires that are actually super fast on gravel and we have great gravel routes in Southern Ontario (as Manon knows well from her Paris to Ancaster race. Another awesome video BTW). If I need to go even faster my 45 year old steel Nishiki does the job well enough. I get a good workout for sure!
Both my first and second road bike where second handed, bought through people I know. Now I'm building my very own gravel bike, choosing each component based on my experience, needs and future projects, it's also an enjoyable process to do!
I’ve just bought my first road bike, Trek Madone with shimano 105 group set for £450 through gumtree, absolutely love it and am always realy excited to get out on the bike. Did a 25k ride yesterday and constantly looking at how I can go that little bit further.
My very first road bike was from a garage sale. It was more than adequate to se how much I loved it. A few months later i got a proper racing bike and I started racing/competing as a cyclist very soon after. 40yrs later I'm still racing as an age age grouper and loving it.
The advice I give when asked: 1. Determine your budget ( and spend to the top of whatever that is) 2. Go to a local bike shop where you’ll be treated with respect as beginner 3. Go in brand neutral Then talk to the staff about type of riding you want to do and let them guide you. Too easy to get focused on a bike brand or components and end up on a bike that has the name, but isn’t the best fit or comfort for you.
I bought my first "real" bike recently, I went from a 99 Univega that was decked out with aftermarkets and an 84 Raleigh Olympian to a Giant Revolt 2. Loved this video Manon, great work! I also loved Bertands take on pricing. Always go cheap when you're first getting into something and if you fall in love, spend the extra money later.
You can, in many places, rent or hire a bike. Usually you can choose from different kinds of bikes to rent/hire as you better decide what kind of bike and riding you will enjoy more before making that 1st purchase.
We tackled assembling the bike as a family project. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxzg0clhbtRf2gGxPkVETFKJJKGqdsorQu The package is heavy, but I have 2 teen boys that were able to move it. The written instructions were great- we didn't need to watch the videos, but it was good knowing that the option was there if we needed it. After we were able to get it set up, the boys each rode 3 miles and I rode 8 and the bike stayed quiet. The display is easy to reset, and you can put it on whichever setting you are using (time, distance, calories, etc). I will say that my butt is a little sore from the seat, but that could be because I haven't rode in a while. While it is comfortable for me, it was not comfortable with the seat position for my friend (could not move the seat back far enough and he slightly looked like a kid riding a tricycle that he had outgrown). He also said that the seat hurt his manly parts. We are going to look for a different seat that will be compatible with this bike for him.I did purchase the Wahoo Cadence sensor and strapped it to the crank of one of the pedals. This will sync with my Apple Watch, iPhone and will import data in to my Health app. Wahoo does have other sensors available other than cadence. I can also keep either my phone or my iPad on the display and they both feel pretty secure.
My first road bike was a Specialized Dolce Sport second hand for £300, which felt like a lot! It was perfect though and really helped me fall in love with cycling, still love it (and it’s entry level parts, aluminium and Shimano sora) but now it’s been adapted into my winter bike, with mud guards and specific tyres. So I’ve just upgraded to a brand new carbon/Tiagra set up. They mention cycle schemes which are definitely worth it, £2850 worth of bike for £1650…
I started off with a budget GT bike in my younger days and now have a Specialized and 2 Giants. I am thankful that as a beginner I have budget options when first starting out in the hobby. Now we have budget options from Decathlon, Java and Merida from where I am just like you guys in the west have Mongoose and low cost options from Dick's Sports shop or the occasional Walmart ones. My first GT road bike had entry level Shimano Tourney and it served me well just like the 105s served me well now in my current bikes. It's very fulfilling to "grow" with your hobby through the years and know that you have so many options for any budget.
Casual rider here, bought a specialized allez back in 2021 for commuting and exercise and just to see the sights. It’s a durable bike, and the bit of extra speed and climbing prowess over my hybrid is a nice bonus
I snatched a used Centurion Hyperdrive 4200 for about 400€ last year as my first ever road bike. Had to change saddle, tubes and tires so far. But very early on, something clicked with me - i felt somewhat like :"may this be what i needed all along...? Have i always missed the correct bike by a bit..?!" I only had crossbikes for the last 15 years or so. And this was an eye-opener. I'm so glad i gave it a shot !
Great tips, GCN! I just acquired my fourth « real » bike. From my experience, I would definitely recommend for a first road bike that you get a higher-end aluminum one. Fact is, unless you go for a high-end carbon bike, the weight difference might not be as much as you think. I used to have a Cannondale Topstone 1 (the best aluminum gravel bike with disc brakes from Cannondale) and it really wasn't that much heavier than my older carbon road bike (Specialized Roubaix SL4 2015 with rim brakes). The advantage of doing so would be to get better components (brakes, gears, cassette, tyres) with the money you save on the material for the frame. Frankly, no one really needs more than mechanical 105 and you can definitely get that (or Tiagra) on an aluminum frame. In addition to all this, if you work on your position and use cleats, you'll definitely go fast. Then if you take care of the bike (washing, lubing, etc.), it will do a great job for a long time.
I bought an aluminium ht mtb when i first started and then bought an old road bike and loved it and basically changed everything except the frame and then bought a lapierre xelius 600 and i love it to death. No bike has the same soul as my modified steel bike though
When buying second hand ask to meet the seller at a local bike shop and have the mechanic give it a quick run through. This is great if you aren't sure which warning signs to look for.
I got my first road bike gently used 16 years ago, and that's the one I still have today! I've changed out worn parts over the years, and just now I have brand new wheels, shifters, cassette and rear derailleur. Still no need for a new frame, but I might chage the stem for a slightly shorter one this season. Not getting any younger...
Btwin owner here.....got my cycle 12 years ago and it is doing absolutely fine....ZERO complaints so far. It's not a road bike (full steel) but adding bar ends, a new set of 'narrow' tyre's, comfy aero seat and I can easily do 4+ hour rides no issues. ......absolutely fantastic bike for sensible price. However I think Btwin quality has fallen sharply over the years.......that OR they make poor quality $250/300 bikes so as to push people towards their higher priced bikes. Big brand's have convinced people that $1500+ cycles are 'sensible, budget, entry level' cycles for the 'discerning' folks....and most seem to fall for this bs.
I’m a recent subscriber to the channel as I take my first steps to get back into riding. I know you don’t want the videos to be too long, but seeing as video 2 starts with: now that you’ve bought your bike - you really need a 1a video on how to know the right size bike - as this is SO Important
I think another thing to consider when looking at frame material is how well it will do in an accident. Remember a beginner cyclist can have an accident just because they are still learning, it would be a shame to destroy your new bike before you got a chance to learn the joys of cycling.
Great point! This goes for more experienced rides too. If you are riding in your local Crit race and you hit the deck ( happens to us all) you don't want to be forking out lots of money for new frame. 😬
Another consideration regarding buying a used bike: know your frame size. If an individual is selling a bike, inquiring about frame size should be the first item on your list. I recall a friend, just getting into cycling, buying a bike that wasn't his size and well, he had to turn around and sell it. Lessons learned the hard way!
Purchased a Bianchi via nirone 7 105, am loving it, so addictive to be researching components the tyres, everything 😂. What disappoints me are so few mid range reviews
My standard advice is to shop for a bike shop not for the bike. Find the shop that you feel comfortable in and let them help you buy the best bike for you.
@@stevemawer848 That's actually the point. People buying their first bike get completely overwhelmed looking at all the different bikes trying to find the "good" one. They are all good. Saving a little bit or having a different choice isn't worth it. If you pick a bike shop that you like they will have a bike for you unless they are a total specialty shop.
Bought my first road bike from a nonprofit bicycle recycling shop; a 2008 mint condition trek madone 5.2 sl. I got lucky it was just my size and only cost $500. At the time I had a new specialized hybrid so I knew a little about bikes. I just recently upgraded my road bike to a new BMC with endurance geometry, better gearing and disc brakes. I’m really glad I waited to buy a new bike since the third time I actually understood what was important to me. The madone was a good bike but the 23 cm tires were just too skinny for the type of urban group rides I do especially at night. The newer bikes are safer with wider tires and disc brakes. Also I realized endurance geometry made more sense for me since I am not into racing.
Just ordered my first road bike earlier this week and awaiting delivery to my LBS! I recently got myself a Trek FX3 which I predominantly use to commute, but I felt like I needed something more lively, and of course I was inspired by GCN to explore road cycling. I've decided I'm not ready for carbon just yet, nor do I necessarily need a super comfy endurance bike, so I went with the new Émonda ALR 5 that just released. Looks glorious and has everything I'm looking for. Very excited to see where it takes me.
Second hand all the way. I recently purchased a carrera virtuoso frame for £20 off of ebay, and built it up with second hand parts (except the bearings) - mainly shimano 105 5600. There's loads of parts available on ebay, as many cyclists always buy what marketing tells them to buy. i.e. disc brakes for instance, and more gears.
Thanks for this series. I'm well past a "basics" series, but it will be nice to have this as a reference for friends, family and the like who want to get into cycling
When it comes to budget, if you're starting out, remember the bike is only half of the budget you need to consider. Kit, helmet, lights, spares, it all adds up and you'll find that the bike itself is a fraction of the price of your gear. My first bike was a 30 year old Peugeot I got for 90€ but I fully committed to cycling and got a lot of gear later. 1 year later I got a power meter, 3 years later I got my first brand new carbon bike. I'm glad I did it this way cause that meant I did ride all year round. My only regret is I should have done a bike fit early in the process
when i bought my first road bike i spent about £500, well it was just over, i could of spent a lot more but i wanted to see if i enjoyed riding a road bike as much as i enjoyed watching the road racing on TV. All in all with accessories £600 was my total spend, i enjoyed riding & exspecially racing so with an overall future bike upgrade in mind i started to upgrade parts, firstly a good saddle for good positioning for those long training rides, accompanied with bars & of course white bar tape, (fashionable at the time), a good set of wheels & tyres, which made a massive difference in weight & ride, general upgrades that i could carry over to my next bike with a bigger budget. For £500 nowadays you can purchase a bike that will do it all with just a few personal upgrades you won't be dissapointed, taking into account what you are most likely to use it for.
I bought my first road bike at the end of 2021 which was an felt F90 which was about 16 years old for under £100 which i have done about 1200 miles on and its pretty decent and good enough to keep up with people i ride with. Thats now my winter/wet bike and i have spent another £200 on a newer Felt F5 carbon which is a decent step up and an absolute bargain i reckon. I took my mate with me to look at both to make sure i didn't buy a shiny glitter pig! Newer bike won't deliberately going out on wet muddy roads and can't imagine i am going to need to upgrade again other than maybe a flasher set of wheels on it.
Buy a used Allez Sport for a couple of hundred quid, upgrade the wheels/tyres and just ride it. It's not too radical geometry and you can work out what you want that's different before you get into real money. After 10 years, I wanted the same but lighter!
I had my firt road bike many years ago; it was a very old steel road bike wirth downtube shifters, like a size small or something. The person just handed it away! So it was free essentially, and I've ridden many hours on it, It's pretty comfortable too I might add. I think it has been upgraded, parts have been swapped, but I don't know for sure... I do need to say that it was a top notch quality bike of like around 1989-ish (idk). It's made from columbus steel and had full campagnolo super record on it one day. It still had the brakes and hoods, but the front derailleur has broken now (unfortunately, it could be repaired with the right parts), the rear derailleur is a dura ace (somehow, I definetly did not change that, it was like that) the wheels are handbuilt and has a shimano freehub (wheelchange/campag to shimao change? idk wtf?), and the cranks+chainset has changed from a campy to a shimano compact one (it had a 13-26, 8 speed cassette with 39/53 chainrings oof mountains). I like it and one local climb here I still do have my personal record on with this bike because of 24-26 lightest gear (now it has 34-32 somehow 32 cassette fits). I needed to ride that hard, also partly to stay even upright and the cadence was doing "oof, ouch"! I have since ridden on a carbon rented race bike (merida reacto) and never got the record on that climb. It even had more gears, more aero, better shifting (electronic!). So I don't know what was happening haha... Recently I bought a barely ridden carbon cross/gravel bike (ridley x knight with rim brakes) on dutch e-bay (marktplaats.nl) for 800€, Such a steal! it had a chip in the paint (no frame damage, checked), and it's been an awesome ride. This shimano 105 bike 11 speed is awesome I do say so myself! Since I've gotten the bike I have (after a cassette gear ratio upgrade) broken and bent the deraileur in a gravel race, then broken the deraileur hanger afterwards after a derailleur swap and hanger adjustment, then a chain snap, and since then nothing. Swapped the old 105 derailleur with another second hand, almost no cost, yeey (chain was more expensive 🤣)!😆 Which means this bike has cost me: 1 cassette, 1 deraileur wolf tooth adapter, 2 chains and 1 derailleur...It's fine. Other upgrades were a free saddle from my old bike (I'm too used to that one)! Meh yes! What is even more astonishing is the old hanbuild wheels of my steel road bieke somehow fit an 11 speed cassette onto it (my 11-34 fits, my 11-30 doesn't somehow) and it's been awesome because now I can swap easily from road to gravel/cross and thats cool!
My first bike was a Schwinn 26 had it for 7 years ( 11:49 second hand) now I bought a 27.5 silverback the bike of my dream at the age of 64 I feel like 24 my wife and myself do a lot of MTB and I have just done the Michaelis challenge 24 km and came 18th I love my cycling
Luckily I've managed to get on cycle to work scheme. Meaning a 2k bike plus all the necessity accessories, helmet, shoes,bags,tubes,lights etc. Is actually an awful lot less than it should be! 32-42% off of everything really adds up! Ive chosen an orro gold stc 105, can't wait for it to arrive and get started on my cycling journey!
My first roadbike back in 2003 was a cyclocrossbike with 3x9 gears and a good aluminiumframe. It was and still is very good. Cyclocrossbikes have more tyre clearance than aero-roadbikes, and that makes it possible to choose thin tarmactyres or fat graveltyres (i have room for 38mm tyres). Endurance roadbikes and especially gravelbikes usually have good tyre clearance, and I advice to ask in the shop how big tyres that can be fitted. My cyclocrossbike have been used with three types of pedals, mountainbike-clippedals, flatpedals and combination flat-clip. Road-clip pedals I willl not have because they fit shoes that is bad to walk with, and you need to walk when punctured, or going in to a shop, or maybe in a steep hill. I prefer mountainbike clip pedals(SPD) or flatpedals. The Aerobikes with narrow tyreclearance are good for racing, and they are the fastest, but are limited to thin tyres and therefore less flexible and a more narrow chance for beeing a perfect do it all bike. Those bikes prefer asphalt. Old roadracing bikes typically has more heavy gearing than new ones. That is ok if you are very fit or doesnt have steep hills, but I prefer larger casettes with lighter gears than the old racebikes have. I think the gear is light and fine if the largest cog behind is the same or larger than the smallest cog in front. If you get an old racebike with heavy gearing it is important with pedals that goes with shoes you walk comfortabel with, which enables you to walk in the steepest hills. Most important is to get the right size. Thanks for a good video :)
I recently got back into mtb and wanted to try my hand at cycling. I had a $1000 budget. Ended up getting a brand new giant talon 3 hardtail and a mint condition 2nd hand giant defy with carbon frameset and 105. There are bargains out there if you are patient or lucky enough.
Thanks for the video. I would start and have started with an vintage steel road bike. There cheap and and Easley expandable for more gears and can in most cases fit fenders if you need them. I had an 1987 Trek 510 for 30 yrs. As a daily commuter with 22mm tires than 32mm later and fenders. Better than a big box low end bike.
Yeah. "Carbon fibre is strong in certain ways". If there is a weak spot in your frame (mostly at cheaper bikes) it'll unexpectedly shatter like glass. Nice when you're biking among cars! Metal frames can bend and rarely break and are a much better option for any bike. The only benefit is the weight. So if you only drive uphill and you can't loose weight yourself, it's a great option.
Can you please do an episode on buying an e-bike and what to look out for and which components to not skimp on? Repairs and maintenance? Also security - locks, wall anchors, alarms, tracker, insurance?
When I was looking to go for my first more speed orientated bike I had little choice due to the 2022 bikeshortage, had to go with a GT grade elite gravelbike that was 1 framesize to big. Changed the stem so it was a better fit and have now done more then 22000 KM on this shimano claris entry level gravelbike and looking to upgrade it this summer with a previous gen 105 groupset :D Maybe not the bike I would have chosen for 1000€ if I had more choice but I truly love it now (and I love the triple triangle design) :D
An aluminum road bike as your starter bike is plenty plenty sufficient. The weight saving vs carbon fiber isn't going to make a huge world of difference in the eyes of an average commute or weekend ride. You can pick up a very solid bike with 8-speed with a decent feel when on the road for around £500. I do Uber eats on my aluminum road bike with flat pedals and it just keeps trudging through everything. 8-speed is loads easier to index and maintain than a 11-speed and although cheaper bikes come with rim brakes, these are also super easy to maintain and cheap to replace over time. I wouldn't consider spending more than £500 on a particular style of bike if you're new to riding. Second hand is a great option too, Just be sure to check the main moving parts (I.e, wheels, gears, brakes) move the way that they should! Get yourself a good feel for the sport before committing to something more costly. I now own a full carbon road bike with hydraulic disc brakes and Shimano 105, but this would have been overkill for me when I first started out!
I picked up my first road bike in 2019. It was a hard decision! I didn't want to spend $700 USD then find out I really got into it and a year later I'm buying a new one. Nor did I want/need to drop $4000 on a bike to ride to grocery store once a week. I ended up splitting the difference with a Giant Any Road (~$1900, with carbon frame and 105s). The last couple years I have really picked it up and it more than meets my needs to ride a couple 30-45 mile rides per week. I think one of the major questions a new rider needs to answer really is "How much do I really plan to use this bike?". Having a bike that is 2-3 lbs lighter but costs $2,000 more probably isn't worth it for the average recreational rider. Side note: I did my first race a couple weeks ago, Barry Roubaix 36 miles, and it was brutal haha. I've been toying with the idea of upgrading to a new bike but after riding Barry Roubaix it's very clear that the bike I have now more than meets my riding needs (pretty flat crushed limestone paths mixed with pavement). I used that $4500+ to remodel my bathroom instead.
Hi Manon, A couple of points, When I look at ebay, they always seem hundreds of miles away. Factor in the cost of travel in the price particularly as you might find it unsuitable when you get there. Maybe better to add the extreme travel cost into your budjet for something more local. Also if the second hand frame is metal, have a look on the down tube in the area of the head tube. A ripple in the metal or even a crack int the paint is a sign that it has been crashed head on into something (eg a car back bumper) even touched up paint in this area is cause for concern since if this has happened the frame may be dangerous and unrepairable. A frame failure in this area would be very serious. Not to be negative though, there are plenty of good second hand bargains and if you're new then learn cheap and make the second bike last.
cycling in Cornwall involves so many hills if you are going any great distance (and winds.) I bought a carbon fibre frame bike (Tifosi Scalare) and it's flattened those hills out a bit :)
This comes at the perfect time for me. Spending my days online searching for road bikes! I'm sure owning it wouldn't be as exciting as this part of the journey. Thanks GCN, Love from India🇮🇳
My first roadie 12 years ago was £200 new Raleigh with thumb shifters and a horrid rim brakes, 12 months later I bought a carbon fibre Pinarello with 105, was a mega upgrade that didn’t want for replacement for 10 years
First, it's as usual a good quality video from GCN, but unfortunately some parts are kind of out of touch with a non-rider. At least to me it feels a little bit off: To quote Alex when asked for the price-point: Well under a 1000 Pound mark, more like 500 Pounds... But you are mostly showing off your expansive Orbeas with some Dura-Ace groupset... It's the meme of expectation and reality when you go into the bikeshop after watching that video ;-). Actually the last bit of the video is the most useful one, at least in my point of view: I actually bought a used 2006 Koga Miyata for 300 Euro on some local marketplace website... I rode it for a few months and then invested in something substancially better. Get something used, but at least "good enough" from somewhere and then you'll see if you enjoy riding a bike like that. Later you can still invest a lot of money in that sport.
Feeling very tempted by a Trek Domane AL2 Gen 3 but I haven't ridden in like 27 years, I'm out of shape and I've never had anything that sophisticated. A bit intimidating but it really speaks to me somehow.
Currently, I'm riding a commuter bike that's a bit of a Frankenstein creation, with a 2012 frame and a mishmash of components. Although it's a bit small for me, I'm on the hunt for a new bike before or after my upcoming 55km Grand Fondo (Sept).
Same was in my case - started road biking on my commuting bike and when 50-70km rides became pretty casual i switched to my first road bike (which is still entry level RC120)
Sometimes Do not use chains that are from a Giant bike store which are chains that are already on the bikes in the shop. I’ve once bought a Tcr and 2 days later while sprinting up a small bridge with grease still on chain from the shop, ended up snapping and I lost the chain
My Brother kindly gave me his Specialized Sirrus, And im looking forward to getting started. I just have no idea of what roads to choose when plannig a route. I'll be honest the traffic worries me a lot. I'm used to riding motorbikes and driving when its no problem at all. Need to get over the fear i think.
This mostly goes for buying used bikes: take some time to understand how some basic components work and how they can break or be fixed. Things like the drive train, hubs, and brakes are a good start and common places to have an issue. Knowing how they work, what they should feel or sound like, and even how to fix them may open up your range of bikes to buy. Do your research beforehand and you might be able to score a sweet deal or save yourself a massive headache and loads of frustration.
Here I am the day before our town has the iron man. I’m not in it but I have for the past couple years been toying with idea of getting a bike. I live in a hilly area with shocking roads and I do want to try some gravel so maybe a hybrid.
Great series, thanks Manon & GCN. Wish this was out earlier. I've been rocking my Specialized Crosstail hybrid for the past 5 years and just bought a full carbon for my first road bike. Really good tip in the vid. What type of riding will you do? Thinking about it now, I'm going to have to change my route for my commute on the new bike. Ah well get to see more varied roads! Thank again guys
Trek Emonda ALR5 was an absolute godsend for me. It is slightly pricy for an entry bike, but it's also super fun, quick and well-kitted out for it's price! It looks so smooth, you'd never believe it's aluminium, not carbon! It's also pretty light for what it is. I am now making the switch from flat pedals to clip-ins and getting some aero bars in preparation for my first triathlon!
In the US we have chain stores (Walmart and others) that have bikes which are what you Brits call rubbish. I didn't even bother with local bike shops because I didn't think my budget allowed for it. I also didn't consider secondhand because of uncertainty about buying something in proper order. I ended buying from a reputable online bike company who hand build their own bikes using all current Shimano drive trains and parts they designed and then sourced from China. Primarily the frame, bars, and rims. I paid $850 for a road bike fitted with a Shimano Tiagra 10spd groupset and Tektro rim brakes. I've since moved onto a BMC Roadmachine. My biggest regret about my first bike was the size was probably one size too big
im not buying a new road bike because i already expropiated my brithers bianchi corsa, and seized the opportunity to upgrade certain parts after he crashed (rider was ok). still watching video because manon
I bought a Ribble that was new but old stock, really cheap price. These are worth searching out too. Unfortunately it was stolen, so I bought a used De Rosa 😊
@Global Cycling Network The Ribble had Ultegra and was lovely to ride. However even though the DeRosa has 105, it is a dream and in red/white colours, looks the dogs. Ive put Hunt Carbon and tubeless on it, so that makes a difference. The guy I bought it off had 2, the one I had, which he used on his indoor trainer only and a Merek (?) with Super Record electronic gearing 😍.
I have always wondered what difference in riding characteristics there is between brands/manufactures. In all other sports, and life, different manufactures have different ideas of what´s the best way to go. A BMW and a Toyota at the same retail price feels compleatly different. I know it´s not resonable to go thru all the bikes but the most common brands? BR Johannes,
Looking forward to this seris, I want to get back into cycling for leisure and seeing these vids is starting to make me want that even more. Thinking of other beginner cycling vids you have done , did Harriet ever do the beginner to 30k route on her own bike like she had hoped?
Harriet smashed a 30 mile ride on a Pinarello 👉 ruclips.net/video/d5qqt2zrNo4/видео.html - She still rides to work now and again🙌 Would you like to see her back?
My big box store sat idle for a long time till it didn't, then it promptly fell apart. My first MTB bike was shopped for around the brands that the local shops sold so i could get service when needed. My next bike (road) used info gleaned from neighborhood cycle club aka dad group 🙂 I was able to get a better deal for my second used bike than i did my first. Bike, Trainer, clipless pedals, shoes (to big) $340 🤯
Wanted a practical basic bike for shopping. The requirements for me are a step through frame, in winter with snow it's much easier to mount. There is a lot of salt used on the highway so anything but a steel frame. Disk brakes, with a front basket for shopping that doesn't get in the way of the brake cables. That requirement is very difficult to meet, and I don't want cables through the frame thank you. I have one fairly steep hill to climb so three sprockets on the front and six plus on the back. Puncture resistant tires so probably schwalbe marathon plus these will probably need to be added. I've been unable to find one and budget isn't an issue. The local bike shops are full of carbon fibre but nothing in a step through frame. I tried to order a set of wheels through my LBS, "I'll put it through", nothing happened.
I bought my first road bike recently - a 12+ year old Raleigh Airlite 100 for under £50. It needed tubes & tyres and a bit of work/tlc which I was able to do myself and actually added to the whole experience. It's been on the road for just over a month and so far we've covered around 220 miles. I absolutely love it.
This is great! 🙌 It's super cool to hear that you've been looking for stuff you can do yourself!
@@gcn Thanks. I posted it on the GCN App bike vault if you want to see it. The GCN videos helped me a lot with getting it sorted, e.g. especially with indexing the gears and setting up my SPD cleats. Thanks and keep up the great work.
@@geraintjones6401 do you know how I could learn to do this stuff myself? I want to be competent in fixing and building bikes myself
Beginners won't be racing and don't need carbon frames. Get a cheap Triban road bike from Decathlon and ride it for a year. Use that experience to decide what your next bike should be.
Would you recommend a Triban for commuting and casual riding purposes?
Just got triban rc100 yesterday and today did the first ride and I am super happy with it. I'm a beginner in all of this, so that was exactly my approach. If I commit to this fully, in 2 years I can buy some fancy one
@@dedeeee617 in a month from now please send an update. 🙏🏼it’s been 2 months since my prévois comment so I’ve already gotten a bike but I’m always open to suggestions
This is the gold comment , rc100 triban with a drop handle is the only bike a beginner should buy if they are a bit hesitant about spending a hefty amount.
Exactly- a simple, common sense suggestion
As an avid mountain biker, just got into road biking. Comfort was my first priority. Been 2 months with my Cannondale Synapse carbon 3 and couldn’t be happier. It is addicting…
Would you swap it for the MTB? 😬
1:33 It is so important that people continue to support their LBS, especially when considering a bike purchase. Many shops will have bikes they need to clear out and are less expensive than their online counterparts. Plus when purchasing at a shop they will have a vested interest in making sure you’re a satisfied customer going forward, unlike many online retailers. One of the most valuable things a bike owner can have is a good LBS that they trust and support.
Supporting your local bike shop is a great thing to do! The support will come straight back at your with great service and a helping hand. Do you have a local shop that you would like to shout out? 🎉
There's not many on-line sellers that want you to come back for regular servicing and repairs for anything that you damage.
It is also important to shop around local bike shops. One of my local ones had a bike $100 over online price and passed on a 4% credit card fee so I bough it at another shop. Both small business one with a better business model.
Online shops don't have commission...
Unless your local LBS is rubbish. My local LBS made a mess of warranty repairs on my bike on a few occasions, leading to parts coming off on the trail. Since then I bought all my own tools and do all maintenance myself.
I've been riding this bike for 7 years now! ruclips.net/user/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L It was a great bike the day I got it, put it together, and went on my first ride; more importantly it's an even better bike today. I've ridden trails, street, and skatepark all on this bike. I have replaced almost every part on the bike. Some stuff has broken: derailleurs, wheels, shifter. Everything else were upgrades. The only ramaing original parts are the frame, bottom bracket, and crank set. BB and cranks will be upgraded soon. The geometry isn't great but that is really the only draw back to how good a value this bike is. Even after all the money I've spent upgrading it's still a more affordable bike than I'd have bought from a proper bike shop, especially with full suspension. I've also learned a lot about bikes working on it over the years. It really is one of the best perchases I've ever made and hopefully it'll still be around for another 7 years.
Beginner here - I bought my first ever bike road bike exactly a year ago in March of 2022, its a good price/value Decathlon - Triban RC520, and I LOVE it since. I am also trying to keep it clean and tidy, I do basic mechanic adjusments on it, just put it together after its 1st Birthday - big cleaning session, I took it apart and washed/cleaned every part of it separately, learned a _lot_ of "how to" from GCN channel :) I hope for more thousand and thousand kms to come on its saddle :)
Yup, bought a triban 520 for my son. Excellent machine. Bit of a learning curve though... My bikers are all 20th century steel.
Similar story here, bought in Decathlon's Second Life a RC120. Unfortunately they did not have RC520 of my size and were not clear when it will be in the stock again so i decided for second hand. I am very pleased with my "entry level" bike and will be doing my first 100km ride next month.
Great stuff! Get stuck in and learn how that bikes works... it's the best way. We have a new GCN Tech series on beginner maintenance tip, you might find it helpful 👉ruclips.net/video/0U-2bT01POo/видео.html
The last tip is the best tip. Buy used for your first bike, and for that matter, buying used for your second, third, or all your bikes is a good idea as well. Bikes don't hold their value well at all, so that bike that cost $3,000 new is only worth half that or less a few years later. You can easily find a good aluminum framed bike that's in great condition with a decent group set for $500, maybe a bit more. I would highly suggest bringing someone along with you to look at the bike that knows about bikes. If you don't know anyone like that, do your research, and always take it for a test ride. Best of luck!
Great tip. When I returned to cycling 20 years ago after a long "layoff" (marriage to a woman who thought cycling was "inappropriate") I went secondhand and found a handbuilt steel-framed, Campag Record equipped bike for £600 Not handbuilt for me, but it was a perfect fit, nevertheless! A bit old school, but it's just right for me.
@1:33 : That. My own experience twice and for my daughters, if you are doing anything more than the casual kind of riding, do not get drawn by sexy online marketing or buy online. Go to a well recommended local shop where they will work with you to find out what is best for your needs. Bikes come in many variations on material, geometry, fit, style, material, etc., even across the same brand and purpose, the only way is to go to a bike shop and sit on stuff. Second hand is a great start if you can find one locally only, not online. This is assuming you don't get accidentally lucky with a second hand eBay purchase - and we know that's definitely happening to you ;)
I just bought a second hand TREK Madone 3.5 with an Ultegra group set on EBay. Pristine condition, well looked after, rode only in Spain, never in the rain. Same price as the cheapest road bike at Halfords. First road bike after riding a MTB for donkeys years and I'm loving it.
Love this series....was in this position last year and found a slightly used Specialized Allez. Aluminum frame, carbon fork, rim brakes. Definitely see myself upgrading in the future, but its been a nice starting point for me.
You can't go wrong with allez. Great choice ryan!
The Allez is a classic first road bike! We hope you're enjoying it, what rides have really stuck in your mind? 👀
@@gcn I love riding along the Mississippi river. I can adjust my loop distance depending on what bridges I cross and how I'm feeling that day. Now I just need the snow to melt in Minnesota!
Manon, when I started I didn't have much money at all, yet I still wanted to get away. My first bike was a purple Magna hardtail MB that I bought on sale at Target for $60 in December 2004. I rode that thing all over Hollywood, Topanga, Malibu, etc. And, yeah, I got extra exercise on the steep hills of the Santa Monica Mountains by getting off to push. That bike weighed about 55 lbs, so I got muscles from lifting it on and off the bus out to Pacific Coast Highway. It lasted til 2011! I now have more money saved and am doing a bike build on a Specialized Roubaix carbon frame. It's o.k. to start w/a lower quality bike and work towards something better. You work w/what you've got at the time.
Great video Manon! I second the idea of not spending a lot before you really know what type of riding you want to do. I bought a 40 year old steel road bike to dip my toe in the water with the local cycling club. I still use it but ultimately bought a new touring bike which I could also use for commuting, shopping, touring/ Bikepacking and club rides. Keep this content coming. Problem with a beginner buying second hand carbon = deadly hidden cracks. Safer with steel/aluminium!
Super cool to hear that you are still rocking the old steel bike! Would you ever get a carbon frame? 👀
I've bought two second hand carbon bikes with no problems at all.
@@gcn I'm not sure. For me, I load my bikes heavy anyway (more so when my own weight is up). I like the 'frame flex' of steel and if the Kona Sutra Touring Bike (drop bar, steel frame/fork) is rigged without baggage, I can easily keep up with a fairly fast club ride. I love the comfort of steel frame combined with supple sidewall tires that are actually super fast on gravel and we have great gravel routes in Southern Ontario (as Manon knows well from her Paris to Ancaster race. Another awesome video BTW). If I need to go even faster my 45 year old steel Nishiki does the job well enough. I get a good workout for sure!
Omg i lover her 😊 she’s sooo cool
Both my first and second road bike where second handed, bought through people I know. Now I'm building my very own gravel bike, choosing each component based on my experience, needs and future projects, it's also an enjoyable process to do!
Second hand is a great option! For those than don't know how what to look for Ollie has your back 👉ruclips.net/video/W6jDWaruzZ0/видео.html
Nice series! I chose Giant Contend AR. And i don't think i will ever change. I love it.
If it ain't broke...
I’ve just bought my first road bike, Trek Madone with shimano 105 group set for £450 through gumtree, absolutely love it and am always realy excited to get out on the bike. Did a 25k ride yesterday and constantly looking at how I can go that little bit further.
My very first road bike was from a garage sale. It was more than adequate to se how much I loved it. A few months later i got a proper racing bike and I started racing/competing as a cyclist very soon after. 40yrs later I'm still racing as an age age grouper and loving it.
Whoop whoop! We bet you look back at that first bike with lots of love 🙌
The advice I give when asked:
1. Determine your budget ( and spend to the top of whatever that is)
2. Go to a local bike shop where you’ll be treated with respect as beginner
3. Go in brand neutral
Then talk to the staff about type of riding you want to do and let them guide you.
Too easy to get focused on a bike brand or components and end up on a bike that has the name, but isn’t the best fit or comfort for you.
I bought my first "real" bike recently, I went from a 99 Univega that was decked out with aftermarkets and an 84 Raleigh Olympian to a Giant Revolt 2. Loved this video Manon, great work! I also loved Bertands take on pricing. Always go cheap when you're first getting into something and if you fall in love, spend the extra money later.
You can, in many places, rent or hire a bike. Usually you can choose from different kinds of bikes to rent/hire as you better decide what kind of bike and riding you will enjoy more before making that 1st purchase.
We tackled assembling the bike as a family project. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxzg0clhbtRf2gGxPkVETFKJJKGqdsorQu The package is heavy, but I have 2 teen boys that were able to move it. The written instructions were great- we didn't need to watch the videos, but it was good knowing that the option was there if we needed it. After we were able to get it set up, the boys each rode 3 miles and I rode 8 and the bike stayed quiet. The display is easy to reset, and you can put it on whichever setting you are using (time, distance, calories, etc). I will say that my butt is a little sore from the seat, but that could be because I haven't rode in a while. While it is comfortable for me, it was not comfortable with the seat position for my friend (could not move the seat back far enough and he slightly looked like a kid riding a tricycle that he had outgrown). He also said that the seat hurt his manly parts. We are going to look for a different seat that will be compatible with this bike for him.I did purchase the Wahoo Cadence sensor and strapped it to the crank of one of the pedals. This will sync with my Apple Watch, iPhone and will import data in to my Health app. Wahoo does have other sensors available other than cadence. I can also keep either my phone or my iPad on the display and they both feel pretty secure.
My first road bike was a Specialized Dolce Sport second hand for £300, which felt like a lot! It was perfect though and really helped me fall in love with cycling, still love it (and it’s entry level parts, aluminium and Shimano sora) but now it’s been adapted into my winter bike, with mud guards and specific tyres. So I’ve just upgraded to a brand new carbon/Tiagra set up. They mention cycle schemes which are definitely worth it, £2850 worth of bike for £1650…
I started off with a budget GT bike in my younger days and now have a Specialized and 2 Giants. I am thankful that as a beginner I have budget options when first starting out in the hobby. Now we have budget options from Decathlon, Java and Merida from where I am just like you guys in the west have Mongoose and low cost options from Dick's Sports shop or the occasional Walmart ones. My first GT road bike had entry level Shimano Tourney and it served me well just like the 105s served me well now in my current bikes. It's very fulfilling to "grow" with your hobby through the years and know that you have so many options for any budget.
Casual rider here, bought a specialized allez back in 2021 for commuting and exercise and just to see the sights. It’s a durable bike, and the bit of extra speed and climbing prowess over my hybrid is a nice bonus
Great shop 73 degrees, highly recommended, great staff, range of bikes, and of coarse great coffee 👌👌
I snatched a used Centurion Hyperdrive 4200 for about 400€ last year as my first ever road bike. Had to change saddle, tubes and tires so far. But very early on, something clicked with me - i felt somewhat like :"may this be what i needed all along...? Have i always missed the correct bike by a bit..?!"
I only had crossbikes for the last 15 years or so. And this was an eye-opener.
I'm so glad i gave it a shot !
Great tips, GCN! I just acquired my fourth « real » bike. From my experience, I would definitely recommend for a first road bike that you get a higher-end aluminum one. Fact is, unless you go for a high-end carbon bike, the weight difference might not be as much as you think. I used to have a Cannondale Topstone 1 (the best aluminum gravel bike with disc brakes from Cannondale) and it really wasn't that much heavier than my older carbon road bike (Specialized Roubaix SL4 2015 with rim brakes). The advantage of doing so would be to get better components (brakes, gears, cassette, tyres) with the money you save on the material for the frame. Frankly, no one really needs more than mechanical 105 and you can definitely get that (or Tiagra) on an aluminum frame. In addition to all this, if you work on your position and use cleats, you'll definitely go fast. Then if you take care of the bike (washing, lubing, etc.), it will do a great job for a long time.
I bought an aluminium ht mtb when i first started and then bought an old road bike and loved it and basically changed everything except the frame and then bought a lapierre xelius 600 and i love it to death. No bike has the same soul as my modified steel bike though
Will you always keep that steel bike? ... We also hope it's on the bike vault! 👉 gcn.eu/app
When buying second hand ask to meet the seller at a local bike shop and have the mechanic give it a quick run through. This is great if you aren't sure which warning signs to look for.
I got my first road bike gently used 16 years ago, and that's the one I still have today! I've changed out worn parts over the years, and just now I have brand new wheels, shifters, cassette and rear derailleur. Still no need for a new frame, but I might chage the stem for a slightly shorter one this season. Not getting any younger...
My first road bike was a Btwin triban, steel but carbon forks, absolutely loved her, lot of bike for a sensible price
Btwin owner here.....got my cycle 12 years ago and it is doing absolutely fine....ZERO complaints so far.
It's not a road bike (full steel) but adding bar ends, a new set of 'narrow' tyre's, comfy aero seat and I can easily do 4+ hour rides no issues. ......absolutely fantastic bike for sensible price.
However I think Btwin quality has fallen sharply over the years.......that OR they make poor quality $250/300 bikes so as to push people towards their higher priced bikes.
Big brand's have convinced people that $1500+ cycles are 'sensible, budget, entry level' cycles for the 'discerning' folks....and most seem to fall for this bs.
@@main_stream_media_is_a_joke must admit, I haven't bought a Btwin bike since, but I think as an entry to road cycling they are hard to beat
I’m a recent subscriber to the channel as I take my first steps to get back into riding.
I know you don’t want the videos to be too long, but seeing as video 2 starts with: now that you’ve bought your bike - you really need a 1a video on how to know the right size bike - as this is SO Important
I think another thing to consider when looking at frame material is how well it will do in an accident. Remember a beginner cyclist can have an accident just because they are still learning, it would be a shame to destroy your new bike before you got a chance to learn the joys of cycling.
Great point! This goes for more experienced rides too. If you are riding in your local Crit race and you hit the deck ( happens to us all) you don't want to be forking out lots of money for new frame. 😬
This is why I would hesitate to buy carbon-fibre! I'm happy with my alloy frame, even if it is a bit heavier.
@@booksbikes4953exactly! Plus, if one is so concerned about the weight of their bike, maybe lose a few lbs from the rider first! 😂
Another consideration regarding buying a used bike: know your frame size. If an individual is selling a bike, inquiring about frame size should be the first item on your list. I recall a friend, just getting into cycling, buying a bike that wasn't his size and well, he had to turn around and sell it. Lessons learned the hard way!
Purchased a Bianchi via nirone 7 105, am loving it, so addictive to be researching components the tyres, everything 😂. What disappoints me are so few mid range reviews
My standard advice is to shop for a bike shop not for the bike. Find the shop that you feel comfortable in and let them help you buy the best bike for you.
Great tip Robert! It's super important that you feel comfortable in the shop and no shop should make you feel uncomfortable.
One disadvantage of doing this is that a shop is likely to have a limited range of brands so your choices may be equally limited.
@@stevemawer848 That's actually the point. People buying their first bike get completely overwhelmed looking at all the different bikes trying to find the "good" one. They are all good. Saving a little bit or having a different choice isn't worth it. If you pick a bike shop that you like they will have a bike for you unless they are a total specialty shop.
Bought my first road bike from a nonprofit bicycle recycling shop; a 2008 mint condition trek madone 5.2 sl. I got lucky it was just my size and only cost $500. At the time I had a new specialized hybrid so I knew a little about bikes. I just recently upgraded my road bike to a new BMC with endurance geometry, better gearing and disc brakes. I’m really glad I waited to buy a new bike since the third time I actually understood what was important to me. The madone was a good bike but the 23 cm tires were just too skinny for the type of urban group rides I do especially at night. The newer bikes are safer with wider tires and disc brakes. Also I realized endurance geometry made more sense for me since I am not into racing.
Just ordered my first road bike earlier this week and awaiting delivery to my LBS! I recently got myself a Trek FX3 which I predominantly use to commute, but I felt like I needed something more lively, and of course I was inspired by GCN to explore road cycling.
I've decided I'm not ready for carbon just yet, nor do I necessarily need a super comfy endurance bike, so I went with the new Émonda ALR 5 that just released. Looks glorious and has everything I'm looking for. Very excited to see where it takes me.
How are you liking it? How long are your rides?
Second hand all the way. I recently purchased a carrera virtuoso frame for £20 off of ebay, and built it up with second hand parts (except the bearings) - mainly shimano 105 5600. There's loads of parts available on ebay, as many cyclists always buy what marketing tells them to buy. i.e. disc brakes for instance, and more gears.
I just got my first bike, a 2009 Giant TCR! Its been around 4 months and I’ve been loving it
The TCR is a speed machine 💨
I've had my first bike for almost 10years now, looking for a new one. But this was still nice and informative :)
Wow that amazing! It must be a great bike? What sort of upgrade are you going for? 💭
Thanks for this series. I'm well past a "basics" series, but it will be nice to have this as a reference for friends, family and the like who want to get into cycling
Thanks for watching David! Think we learnt some new stuff making this one, will you be sharing the video with family? 🤔
When it comes to budget, if you're starting out, remember the bike is only half of the budget you need to consider. Kit, helmet, lights, spares, it all adds up and you'll find that the bike itself is a fraction of the price of your gear. My first bike was a 30 year old Peugeot I got for 90€ but I fully committed to cycling and got a lot of gear later. 1 year later I got a power meter, 3 years later I got my first brand new carbon bike. I'm glad I did it this way cause that meant I did ride all year round. My only regret is I should have done a bike fit early in the process
Bought a 1970s BSA Tour of Britain for £20. It had been sitting in a shed for decades before but after a thorough service it's been a tough ol' bird.
when i bought my first road bike i spent about £500, well it was just over, i could of spent a lot more but i wanted to see if i enjoyed riding a road bike as much as i enjoyed watching the road racing on TV.
All in all with accessories £600 was my total spend, i enjoyed riding & exspecially racing so with an overall future bike upgrade in mind i started to upgrade parts,
firstly a good saddle for good positioning for those long training rides, accompanied with bars & of course white bar tape, (fashionable at the time), a good set of wheels & tyres, which made a massive difference in weight & ride, general upgrades that i could carry over to my next bike with a bigger budget.
For £500 nowadays you can purchase a bike that will do it all with just a few personal upgrades you won't be dissapointed, taking into account what you are most likely to use it for.
04:50 1st pick
I bought my first road bike at the end of 2021 which was an felt F90 which was about 16 years old for under £100 which i have done about 1200 miles on and its pretty decent and good enough to keep up with people i ride with. Thats now my winter/wet bike and i have spent another £200 on a newer Felt F5 carbon which is a decent step up and an absolute bargain i reckon. I took my mate with me to look at both to make sure i didn't buy a shiny glitter pig! Newer bike won't deliberately going out on wet muddy roads and can't imagine i am going to need to upgrade again other than maybe a flasher set of wheels on it.
We love you Manon ♥
Buy a used Allez Sport for a couple of hundred quid, upgrade the wheels/tyres and just ride it. It's not too radical geometry and you can work out what you want that's different before you get into real money. After 10 years, I wanted the same but lighter!
I had my firt road bike many years ago; it was a very old steel road bike wirth downtube shifters, like a size small or something. The person just handed it away! So it was free essentially, and I've ridden many hours on it, It's pretty comfortable too I might add. I think it has been upgraded, parts have been swapped, but I don't know for sure...
I do need to say that it was a top notch quality bike of like around 1989-ish (idk). It's made from columbus steel and had full campagnolo super record on it one day. It still had the brakes and hoods, but the front derailleur has broken now (unfortunately, it could be repaired with the right parts), the rear derailleur is a dura ace (somehow, I definetly did not change that, it was like that) the wheels are handbuilt and has a shimano freehub (wheelchange/campag to shimao change? idk wtf?), and the cranks+chainset has changed from a campy to a shimano compact one (it had a 13-26, 8 speed cassette with 39/53 chainrings oof mountains).
I like it and one local climb here I still do have my personal record on with this bike because of 24-26 lightest gear (now it has 34-32 somehow 32 cassette fits). I needed to ride that hard, also partly to stay even upright and the cadence was doing "oof, ouch"! I have since ridden on a carbon rented race bike (merida reacto) and never got the record on that climb. It even had more gears, more aero, better shifting (electronic!). So I don't know what was happening haha...
Recently I bought a barely ridden carbon cross/gravel bike (ridley x knight with rim brakes) on dutch e-bay (marktplaats.nl) for 800€, Such a steal! it had a chip in the paint (no frame damage, checked), and it's been an awesome ride. This shimano 105 bike 11 speed is awesome I do say so myself!
Since I've gotten the bike I have (after a cassette gear ratio upgrade) broken and bent the deraileur in a gravel race, then broken the deraileur hanger afterwards after a derailleur swap and hanger adjustment, then a chain snap, and since then nothing. Swapped the old 105 derailleur with another second hand, almost no cost, yeey (chain was more expensive 🤣)!😆
Which means this bike has cost me: 1 cassette, 1 deraileur wolf tooth adapter, 2 chains and 1 derailleur...It's fine. Other upgrades were a free saddle from my old bike (I'm too used to that one)! Meh yes!
What is even more astonishing is the old hanbuild wheels of my steel road bieke somehow fit an 11 speed cassette onto it (my 11-34 fits, my 11-30 doesn't somehow) and it's been awesome because now I can swap easily from road to gravel/cross and thats cool!
My first bike was a Schwinn 26 had it for 7 years ( 11:49 second hand) now I bought a 27.5 silverback the bike of my dream at the age of 64 I feel like 24 my wife and myself do a lot of MTB and I have just done the Michaelis challenge 24 km and came 18th I love my cycling
Luckily I've managed to get on cycle to work scheme. Meaning a 2k bike plus all the necessity accessories, helmet, shoes,bags,tubes,lights etc. Is actually an awful lot less than it should be! 32-42% off of everything really adds up!
Ive chosen an orro gold stc 105, can't wait for it to arrive and get started on my cycling journey!
My first roadbike back in 2003 was a cyclocrossbike with 3x9 gears and a good aluminiumframe. It was and still is very good. Cyclocrossbikes have more tyre clearance than aero-roadbikes, and that makes it possible to choose thin tarmactyres or fat graveltyres (i have room for 38mm tyres). Endurance roadbikes and especially gravelbikes usually have good tyre clearance, and I advice to ask in the shop how big tyres that can be fitted. My cyclocrossbike have been used with three types of pedals, mountainbike-clippedals, flatpedals and combination flat-clip. Road-clip pedals I willl not have because they fit shoes that is bad to walk with, and you need to walk when punctured, or going in to a shop, or maybe in a steep hill. I prefer mountainbike clip pedals(SPD) or flatpedals.
The Aerobikes with narrow tyreclearance are good for racing, and they are the fastest, but are limited to thin tyres and therefore less flexible and a more narrow chance for beeing a perfect do it all bike. Those bikes prefer asphalt.
Old roadracing bikes typically has more heavy gearing than new ones. That is ok if you are very fit or doesnt have steep hills, but I prefer larger casettes with lighter gears than the old racebikes have. I think the gear is light and fine if the largest cog behind is the same or larger than the smallest cog in front. If you get an old racebike with heavy gearing it is important with pedals that goes with shoes you walk comfortabel with, which enables you to walk in the steepest hills.
Most important is to get the right size.
Thanks for a good video :)
I recently got back into mtb and wanted to try my hand at cycling. I had a $1000 budget. Ended up getting a brand new giant talon 3 hardtail and a mint condition 2nd hand giant defy with carbon frameset and 105. There are bargains out there if you are patient or lucky enough.
Thanks for the video. I would start and have started with an vintage steel road bike. There cheap and and Easley expandable for more gears and can in most cases fit fenders if you need them. I had an 1987 Trek 510 for 30 yrs. As a daily commuter with 22mm tires than 32mm later and fenders. Better than a big box low end bike.
You can't beat a retro bike! What about modern steel frames? 👀
Manon is the answer 🎉
Looking forward to the next episodes of this series since I already own a bike!
Keep your eyes peeled... it's on it's way 👀
Yeah. "Carbon fibre is strong in certain ways". If there is a weak spot in your frame (mostly at cheaper bikes) it'll unexpectedly shatter like glass. Nice when you're biking among cars! Metal frames can bend and rarely break and are a much better option for any bike. The only benefit is the weight. So if you only drive uphill and you can't loose weight yourself, it's a great option.
Would’ve loved these videos sooner 😭😭 appreciate them nonetheless still thankful!!
Wish, I saw this first. Ended u getting a specialized creo comp carbon; its amazing! So far have 200 miles on it.
just recently bought my first gravel bike and probably the best idea i ever invest in a 2021 giant revolt 2
Can you please do an episode on buying an e-bike and what to look out for and which components to not skimp on? Repairs and maintenance?
Also security - locks, wall anchors, alarms, tracker, insurance?
When I was looking to go for my first more speed orientated bike I had little choice due to the 2022 bikeshortage, had to go with a GT grade elite gravelbike that was 1 framesize to big.
Changed the stem so it was a better fit and have now done more then 22000 KM on this shimano claris entry level gravelbike and looking to upgrade it this summer with a previous gen 105 groupset :D
Maybe not the bike I would have chosen for 1000€ if I had more choice but I truly love it now (and I love the triple triangle design) :D
An aluminum road bike as your starter bike is plenty plenty sufficient. The weight saving vs carbon fiber isn't going to make a huge world of difference in the eyes of an average commute or weekend ride. You can pick up a very solid bike with 8-speed with a decent feel when on the road for around £500. I do Uber eats on my aluminum road bike with flat pedals and it just keeps trudging through everything. 8-speed is loads easier to index and maintain than a 11-speed and although cheaper bikes come with rim brakes, these are also super easy to maintain and cheap to replace over time. I wouldn't consider spending more than £500 on a particular style of bike if you're new to riding. Second hand is a great option too, Just be sure to check the main moving parts (I.e, wheels, gears, brakes) move the way that they should! Get yourself a good feel for the sport before committing to something more costly. I now own a full carbon road bike with hydraulic disc brakes and Shimano 105, but this would have been overkill for me when I first started out!
I picked up my first road bike in 2019. It was a hard decision! I didn't want to spend $700 USD then find out I really got into it and a year later I'm buying a new one. Nor did I want/need to drop $4000 on a bike to ride to grocery store once a week. I ended up splitting the difference with a Giant Any Road (~$1900, with carbon frame and 105s). The last couple years I have really picked it up and it more than meets my needs to ride a couple 30-45 mile rides per week. I think one of the major questions a new rider needs to answer really is "How much do I really plan to use this bike?". Having a bike that is 2-3 lbs lighter but costs $2,000 more probably isn't worth it for the average recreational rider.
Side note: I did my first race a couple weeks ago, Barry Roubaix 36 miles, and it was brutal haha. I've been toying with the idea of upgrading to a new bike but after riding Barry Roubaix it's very clear that the bike I have now more than meets my riding needs (pretty flat crushed limestone paths mixed with pavement). I used that $4500+ to remodel my bathroom instead.
Hi Manon,
A couple of points, When I look at ebay, they always seem hundreds of miles away. Factor in the cost of travel in the price particularly as you might find it unsuitable when you get there. Maybe better to add the extreme travel cost into your budjet for something more local.
Also if the second hand frame is metal, have a look on the down tube in the area of the head tube. A ripple in the metal or even a crack int the paint is a sign that it has been crashed head on into something (eg a car back bumper) even touched up paint in this area is cause for concern since if this has happened the frame may be dangerous and unrepairable. A frame failure in this area would be very serious.
Not to be negative though, there are plenty of good second hand bargains and if you're new then learn cheap and make the second bike last.
cycling in Cornwall involves so many hills if you are going any great distance (and winds.)
I bought a carbon fibre frame bike (Tifosi Scalare) and it's flattened those hills out a bit :)
This comes at the perfect time for me. Spending my days online searching for road bikes! I'm sure owning it wouldn't be as exciting as this part of the journey. Thanks GCN, Love from India🇮🇳
My first roadie 12 years ago was £200 new Raleigh with thumb shifters and a horrid rim brakes, 12 months later I bought a carbon fibre Pinarello with 105, was a mega upgrade that didn’t want for replacement for 10 years
I'll watch any video you make, Manon! 😄
First, it's as usual a good quality video from GCN, but unfortunately some parts are kind of out of touch with a non-rider. At least to me it feels a little bit off: To quote Alex when asked for the price-point: Well under a 1000 Pound mark, more like 500 Pounds... But you are mostly showing off your expansive Orbeas with some Dura-Ace groupset... It's the meme of expectation and reality when you go into the bikeshop after watching that video ;-).
Actually the last bit of the video is the most useful one, at least in my point of view: I actually bought a used 2006 Koga Miyata for 300 Euro on some local marketplace website... I rode it for a few months and then invested in something substancially better. Get something used, but at least "good enough" from somewhere and then you'll see if you enjoy riding a bike like that. Later you can still invest a lot of money in that sport.
I’ve just bought a cheap first bike for the summer. Picked up a BMC Teammachine SLR01
Feeling very tempted by a Trek Domane AL2 Gen 3 but I haven't ridden in like 27 years, I'm out of shape and I've never had anything that sophisticated. A bit intimidating but it really speaks to me somehow.
Currently, I'm riding a commuter bike that's a bit of a Frankenstein creation, with a 2012 frame and a mishmash of components. Although it's a bit small for me, I'm on the hunt for a new bike before or after my upcoming 55km Grand Fondo (Sept).
Same was in my case - started road biking on my commuting bike and when 50-70km rides became pretty casual i switched to my first road bike (which is still entry level RC120)
I really like going used on the bike. I got an aluminum frame Eddy Merckx used with Dura Ace 7700 and I love it!
You can pick up some bargains 🙌
Yay! Thanks for the video, Miss Manon and GCN
Great tips . I got a lot from here to start . ❤
Do you have any questions Manon or any tips for new cyclists? 🚴
Sometimes Do not use chains that are from a Giant bike store which are chains that are already on the bikes in the shop. I’ve once bought a Tcr and 2 days later while sprinting up a small bridge with grease still on chain from the shop, ended up snapping and I lost the chain
Does Manon have any questions?
You're right; I remember when a Specialized Roubaix Comp actually followed me out of the store.
My Brother kindly gave me his Specialized Sirrus, And im looking forward to getting started. I just have no idea of what roads to choose when plannig a route. I'll be honest the traffic worries me a lot. I'm used to riding motorbikes and driving when its no problem at all. Need to get over the fear i think.
Thanks Manon and crew...
This mostly goes for buying used bikes: take some time to understand how some basic components work and how they can break or be fixed. Things like the drive train, hubs, and brakes are a good start and common places to have an issue. Knowing how they work, what they should feel or sound like, and even how to fix them may open up your range of bikes to buy.
Do your research beforehand and you might be able to score a sweet deal or save yourself a massive headache and loads of frustration.
Here I am the day before our town has the iron man. I’m not in it but I have for the past couple years been toying with idea of getting a bike. I live in a hilly area with shocking roads and I do want to try some gravel so maybe a hybrid.
Great series, thanks Manon & GCN. Wish this was out earlier. I've been rocking my Specialized Crosstail hybrid for the past 5 years and just bought a full carbon for my first road bike. Really good tip in the vid. What type of riding will you do? Thinking about it now, I'm going to have to change my route for my commute on the new bike. Ah well get to see more varied roads! Thank again guys
Nothing wrong with mixing things up! You can always keep both bikes and explore new places. Thanks for watching the video Simon 🙌
@@gcn took the words out of my mouth. Managed LEJOG last year on my Crosstail so I'm never giving her up.
Trek Emonda ALR5 was an absolute godsend for me. It is slightly pricy for an entry bike, but it's also super fun, quick and well-kitted out for it's price! It looks so smooth, you'd never believe it's aluminium, not carbon! It's also pretty light for what it is. I am now making the switch from flat pedals to clip-ins and getting some aero bars in preparation for my first triathlon!
I needed this 🙌
ive got a decent bike ,, but i would be happy to ride along with mannon on the road :-)
could this ever be possible ??
In the US we have chain stores (Walmart and others) that have bikes which are what you Brits call rubbish. I didn't even bother with local bike shops because I didn't think my budget allowed for it. I also didn't consider secondhand because of uncertainty about buying something in proper order. I ended buying from a reputable online bike company who hand build their own bikes using all current Shimano drive trains and parts they designed and then sourced from China. Primarily the frame, bars, and rims. I paid $850 for a road bike fitted with a Shimano Tiagra 10spd groupset and Tektro rim brakes. I've since moved onto a BMC Roadmachine. My biggest regret about my first bike was the size was probably one size too big
im not buying a new road bike because i already expropiated my brithers bianchi corsa, and seized the opportunity to upgrade certain parts after he crashed (rider was ok).
still watching video because manon
Congrats, Manon!
I bought a Ribble that was new but old stock, really cheap price. These are worth searching out too. Unfortunately it was stolen, so I bought a used De Rosa 😊
What do you prefer the De Rosa or the Ribble? 👀
@Global Cycling Network The Ribble had Ultegra and was lovely to ride. However even though the DeRosa has 105, it is a dream and in red/white colours, looks the dogs. Ive put Hunt Carbon and tubeless on it, so that makes a difference. The guy I bought it off had 2, the one I had, which he used on his indoor trainer only and a Merek (?) with Super Record electronic gearing 😍.
I have always wondered what difference in riding characteristics there is between brands/manufactures. In all other sports, and life, different manufactures have different ideas of what´s the best way to go. A BMW and a Toyota at the same retail price feels compleatly different. I know it´s not resonable to go thru all the bikes but the most common brands? BR Johannes,
same interest for me! comment in support of the subject
I am just watching to see what you say, i always custom my full bike builds (yes even wheels I build)
Change sides with your dynamo to reduce tyre wear.
Looking forward to this seris, I want to get back into cycling for leisure and seeing these vids is starting to make me want that even more. Thinking of other beginner cycling vids you have done , did Harriet ever do the beginner to 30k route on her own bike like she had hoped?
Harriet smashed a 30 mile ride on a Pinarello 👉 ruclips.net/video/d5qqt2zrNo4/видео.html - She still rides to work now and again🙌 Would you like to see her back?
@@gcn HARRIET BACK!! SHE'S AMAZING!!(& hilariously cheeky!!
My big box store sat idle for a long time till it didn't, then it promptly fell apart. My first MTB bike was shopped for around the brands that the local shops sold so i could get service when needed. My next bike (road) used info gleaned from neighborhood cycle club aka dad group 🙂 I was able to get a better deal for my second used bike than i did my first. Bike, Trainer, clipless pedals, shoes (to big) $340 🤯
Great idea for the series, thanks!
Thanks for the video
Wanted a practical basic bike for shopping. The requirements for me are a step through frame, in winter with snow it's much easier to mount. There is a lot of salt used on the highway so anything but a steel frame. Disk brakes, with a front basket for shopping that doesn't get in the way of the brake cables. That requirement is very difficult to meet, and I don't want cables through the frame thank you. I have one fairly steep hill to climb so three sprockets on the front and six plus on the back. Puncture resistant tires so probably schwalbe marathon plus these will probably need to be added. I've been unable to find one and budget isn't an issue. The local bike shops are full of carbon fibre but nothing in a step through frame. I tried to order a set of wheels through my LBS, "I'll put it through", nothing happened.
FYI they're chainrings on the front, sprockets on the back. 🙂 Good luck with your search, hope you can find what you need.
Go by the colour 😅 if it looks good thats enough