Maybe Shadow likes big's whole lifestyle of just hanging out and fishing. Would be kinda funny in my opinion if the big bad hedghog just really likes to go fishing every once in a while. Sure as hell beats the stress of saving the world so often.
Shadow is actually a chill dude if youre not being a nuisance like sonic or actively getting in the way. He even respects Eggman's degree in Evil Engineering from the University of Villainy by consistently referring to him as "Doctor"
Yeah.. felt bad for him. I didn’t mind sunset heights and Chaos island (especially cause the levels were really good) but we definitely needed a level from Shadow 05 plus another boss fight, like with infinite, that could have been cool. Can only hope there will be free dlc in the future like frontiers.
It's so jarring to see an actually good forces level. (if it didn't get cut off by radical highway's take on sonic 4 episode 2 special stages maybe it would've been even better ) @@mrcwillis6970
On one hand i hate the fact that a 50$ game only comes with 2 hours' worth of content. On the other hand though i wouldn't mind paying more for additional good levels at all. It's so weird @@EnzoZambrotti
4:23:51 Does anyone find it odd that the rest of the Boss Gates are out in the open but Mephiles’s Boss Gate is hidden almost as if the timeline itself was trying to hide him away forever? #SonicXShadowGenerations
Yeah I noticed that too. Not sure if it was intentional for the developers to do that but it really feels like Mephiles is quite literally hidden. Essentially forgotten and abandoned.
After downloading and inspecting all the chemical plant assets in forces and comparing them to the metal overlords background assets, I can confirm that metal overlord’s boss doesn’t reuse assets from forces
I have no idea why he kept saying the Metal Overlord boss was in chemical plant It clearly has a white and red color scheme and new assets based on heros Also looking back, Generations did the exact same kind of marketing with its levels and bosses, they pretty much showed off everything except the final boss
@@ProjectJ007 that’s what I’m saying I was replying the shadow games recently as well to get caught up, it’s pretty clear it’s all new stuff based on final fortress None of it has any theming from any of the chemical plants
@@ProjectJ007 yeah was thinking that cause OG '06 is nowhere near on the same quality that Shadow Gens is in terms of graphics. Funny how a lot of people think of P-06 now when thinking of '06 and not the actual game itself, just shows how professional and good P-06 is at being a great sonic game.
Here are time stamps. (Spoiler warning for those who haven’t played the game yet) 0:00 the beginning (duh..) 4:30 Dark Beginnings EP3 react 13:55 starts up the game 19:20 Shadows Story 22:32 Opening cutscene 24:12 it begins… space colony ark act 1 26:09 testing how it controls 28:06 cool Chaos control moment 29:54 Robs reaction to shadow 05 sound effect 30:10 Doom… “He’s back!” 41:10 cutscene with time eater and fake emerald (guess you could say it’s like taking candy from a baby) 42:34 the Void open zone begins 48:05 collection room 52:20 Space colony ark Act 2 (and 2d returns but it’s fine, they good) 54:55 Doom Wings! 1:00:28 cutscene shadow “seeing things” 1:00:40 Doom Spears! 1:09:42 robs hopes 1:13:45 Rail canyon act 1 1:16:07 flashbacks and fanboying 1:17:21 here he comes again… 1:22:28 Shadow BLINK! 1:22:44 Rail canyon act 2 1:27:00 Orbot and Cubot are here 1:30:21 black arms enemy’s return 1:31:15 Doom Blast! 1:34:14 Space colony ark and Rail canyon challenges for keys and chasing those music notes for stuff 1:57:44 black goons… 0-0 2:00:47 Biolizard boss 2:06:26 map fully opens and Black doom appears 2:08:56 Doom Surf! 2:09:50 looking around and collecting 2:11:23 um… about shadow 05 level… (spoilers there is none, it’s sad) much copium will be around the stream 2:11:40 Kingdom Vallay act 1 2:19:09 Sunset heights act 1 (sonic forces redemption let’s go! Well not fully but still wow it feels good to have a good forces levels) 2:22:03 here he comes again… 2:25:30 more exploring 2:30:00 Sunset heights act 2 2:34:05 Maria and Gerald are back 2:37:31 more exploring and collecting 2:44:35 Kingdom valley act 2 2:48:48 BIG THE CAT 2:54:33 Kingdom Valley and Sunset heights challenges for keys and music notes again 3:20:47 Metal overlord boss 3:33:17 Gerald explains what’s going on with his new powers and his connection with Doom. 3:36:24 Shadow eats Ribeena..? 3:36:53 Doom Morph! 3:39:00 Chaos island act 1 3:43:57 more exploring and collecting 3:51:47 Chaos island act 2 3:54:55 cool sonic vs shadow cutscene (recreated battle from Sonic Generations) plus sonic got the fake emerald, plus rouge is here now 3:58:15 more exploring and collecting 4:03:37 Chaos island challenges for keys and music notes 4:10:14 big fart… 0-0 4:24:57 Mephiles the dark boss 4:29:31 Black doom making Shadow have anger and hate, Maria helps him (no more BAZINGA XD) also wow Rob 0-0 4:33:01 Doom Wings (for real this time) plus the final begins… 4:34:49 talking to Maria and Gerald before going to doom, super sweet, then getting to the top of the map 4:38:05 Radical highway act 1 (rip, levels are cool but still.. man) 4:43:14 Radical highway act 2 4:51:38 here we go the final… Devil Doom 4:52:40 Dooms funny laugh XD 4:57:15 Neo Devil Doom and ALL HAIL SHADOW REMIX! 5:01:41 the end of doom… 5:03:03 the realistic explosion XD 5:03:31 final cutscene 5:04:09 that would be funny and awkward XD 5:05:12 one last goodbye… 5:06:32 credits 5:07:15 he gives his thoughts on the game and why there’s no level from Shadow 05 (he likes it lots and had fun despite the negatives he has with the game, and yeah they showed too much in trailer and ads) 5:27:24 ranking out of 10 5:18:47 goes back in to find there’s more content 5:20:04 talks more about Shadow 05 and other stuff and hopes for more free dlc, plus heroes remake and shadow 05 remake (I hope there’s more levels other than the movie one) Well that’s it… man that was a lot, took me a while to do this but I hope it’s helpful if you want to see a certain point. This was super fun ❤🖤
It is interesting that doom knows enough about using chaos emeralds to teach other people how to do it, when the ancients seem to have been unable despite them being from their planet. Id speculate about a connection between him and The End, but their modus operandi is completely different.
i dont really get the complaints about chaos island not making sense. Shadow Generations was released 13 years after sonic generations, so it has the cool opportunity to actually pull levels from the future rather than just the past. Also it was never like an established rule that the character had to be have been to the level before, classic sonic goes to a bunch of levels he doesn't have, and like sonic's friends appear outside of levels they haven't been to in previous games. (and in generations 3ds, sonic gets radical highway and biolizard) But like i get wanting a shadow the hedgehog level tho, like digital circuit would have been cool
well if that one theory is correct the Black Arms are a race of Ancients that got corrupted, so maybe it's some sort of respect from black doom to honor his kin?
What people don't realize is that Shadow having a Chaos Island stage despite not being in Frontiers is *most certainly* a reference to Sonic having a cyber stage based on Sky Rail despite never being there himself. /s
This game is one of the reasons why I don't watch trailers anymore. I had a pretty fun time guessing what the next level might be this way, however that also means I missed the pre-release animations until after I already beat the game so...
Yeah i'll probably avoid watching all the trailers before a game releases. They basically spoiled all the zones and left no surprises :/ Maybe I should watch only the initial gameplay trailer when they announce a game from now on?
The theme around 1:33:00 I believe is from shadow the hedgehog although it's an odd remix and possibly a mash up with time eater. Its the chaos blast theme, when you glow red, "aaaAARG, death to all who oppose me!"
After beating the game myself, I kinda wish the final stage had been Westopolis instead of Radical Highway Not only to represent the Shadow game, but because it’s essentially the place where Black Doom began his manipulation of Shadow ending it for good where everything started, y’know
This was a super fun stream, lost a lot of sleep for that night but it was worth it seeing Rads reactions and genuinely having a fun time despite the issues he has with the game. Overall even tho there was some missed opportunity with levels and what characters/bosses could have shown up and how much lore could have been developed. (Plus I do feel it should have been a bit longer) This was amazing, so much love went into the level desgin and animations and bosses. The interactions with shadow and characters was really sweet and the open area was really neat and there’s plenty to collect. Plus it looks so beautiful and the soundtrack is fantastic. So happy shadow got his time to shine after all these years. Hope they continue to keep it up and improve further as much as possible like all company’s should do. ❤️🖤
I think Chaos Island could've easily been replaced with Digital Circuit, Cryptic Castle or Lava Shelter. But they probably decided to prioritize other games since Black Doom is already the main villain. Either that or make it so all Radical Highway sections before the final level happen in different Shadow the Hedgehog levels.
That makes so much sense. If it were from SA2, it would have been called "Final Chase". It's just confusing because the levels are otherwise in chronological order, so you naturally assume this level is the SA2 one.
Is this a joke? The music from the Ark is Final Rush from Sonic’s level in SA2. Plus the some of the trailers in the marketing were comparing the Ark level to SA2 so it’s very much obviously a level that’s meant to be from SA2
What are you dimwits talking about,do you generalay hear no praise,just stop whinging and SHUT UP already!"oh look at me..I hate that this guy has an opinion" thats the only sentence you bothersome peoplr know to say,including the idiots that liked the comment..I swear ..
Look..sorry for the words but you guys are litteral examples of bad sonic fans..sonic fans that only WANT to hear praise you guys are too lazy fo hear and it bugs many people,atleast ones that know constructive criticsism.
So glad you decided to stream a new sonic game, regardless of how you feel about the game it's exciting to see your first reactions, I hope you do this more in the future rob!
Shadow The Hedgehog 2005 is my favorite Sonic game and I'm so mad that there isn't any levels from that game in this. They could've used the Doom Wings for levels like Sky Troops or Cryptic Castle. It would've been really cool to use the Doom Surf at Prison Island. If they wanted to make a normal Sonic level from the game than Westopolis, Central City, Glyphic Canyon, or maybe even Cosmic Fall or Space Gadget would've been great choices.
It's funny that you would mention "Cosmic Fall" or "Space Gadget" but ignore the fact that "The ARK" is literally one of the levels in "Shadow The Hedgehog" the only thing is you aren't riding "black volts" this time around since it wouldn't make any sense from a story perspective and using the black wings and chaos sphere is a better substitute anyway. Also there is a lot of aspects taken from "Space Gadget" and even with those indoor sections for me feel like "Cosmic Fall" there just isn't stuff constantly collapsing. Like I get being unsatisfied with that particular level being chosen but why would "Cosmic Fall" or "Space Gadget" be any more satisfying for you? Also "Westopolis" and "Central City" would feel just like "Radical Highway" to a point where I mistakenly thought that was where Black Doom was sending Shadow up until the level itself.
@@GAHAHAHHYou know what? Now that a couple days have passed I can absolutely say that I was coping REALLY hard when they didn't include a full level from Shadow's own game. Getting an S rank on most of these levels, especially the first level made me see the similarities of Shadow's own game. Still would've preferred it if they gave us an actual level from the game though. If they are willing to make a pack of more levels including levels from Shadow's game then I'd love to buy that if it ever does happen.
"maybe theyre going to completely remake shadow the hedgehog" Friend, i think you might be coping a little...but im right there with you. Despite its "reputation" i love the hell out of shadow 05. I go back and play a few story paths every few months.
So i see lots of people complaining that radical highway is the final level when you were sent there multiple tkmes before It feels obvious that itd ve the final one, thats the zone black doom seems to have control over, it makes perfext sense the final zone is the one the final boss keeps sending you too
More than anything I'm just very worried about Sonic Team starting to force feed that level like they do with Green Hill Zone. If Shadow's next game has up to 9 or 15 Radical Highways I'm going to lose my mind.
Something nobody real talks about, most of the quick time events in this game mean nothing. The only one you can fail is the very first one on the Ark where it doesn't even kill you, Shadow just does a cheesy animation and teleports back. The ones on the boss fights will do the same animation whether you hit the button or not at all. There is no punishment for failing a QTE in the bosses so they mean absolutely nothing.
Forces is a great example for how not to do a boost game, so it’s a good comparison to make when talking about the boost formula. I think it’s worth pointing out how excited Rob was for that game. I remember him talking about how excited he was. So I think the disappointment still burns.
@@BrisketSurge true. It's the worst boost game we got so far so it's a good comparison point for the boost formula games. Also I was really excited for Sonic Forces at that time as well. Especially for Infinite, Chaos and the avatar. And I just hoped that we'll get a game as good as Sonic Generations along with them since, you know, THEY ADVERTISED IT "FROM THE CREATORS OF COLORS AND GENERATIONS". The game didn't even have half of the quality Generations had and Chaos 0 got no boss, Infinite didn't even get a final boss and idk what happened to him after the events of Sonic Forces because they never flipping show it in game and the avatar controlled badly and had the same short, linear and automated levels as the rest. The whole game just felt short, underwhelming, way too linear and way too automated. In fact, I was so frustrated by it that I flipping switched to the Rayman series till Sonic Frontiers released and played Rayman 2, Redemption and Origins (great games and don't regret playing those though).
@@RiqMoney817 you’re right, tho I really do think it’s better to celebrate a forces level being improved in many ways than be disappointed that it’s there at all
1:27:00 By all accounts it doesn’t make sense, Orbot originated in Unleashed and Cubot in Colours, and Eggman seemingly abandoned them in space when he found the Time Eater. The only game they _could_ have gained knowledge of Shadow is, unironically, Colours DS of all games. Colours DS, unlike Generations and Lost World on 3DS, is actually canon. Shadow appears in that game, so a possibility is they met directly off screen (Omega was terrorising them at one point).
One thing I've learned from watching people do the beginning of the Biolizard fight is that there are a criminal number of people who have not played SA2 lol. Thankfully you only have to do that part once.
I don’t get your problem with them showing off the new abilities in the trailers. “Imagine people’s reactions if they saw them in game first” I imagine they’d look a lot like the reactions they had from the trailers. Like, are we going to chastise sonic colors for doing it too? They’re relevance to the story wasn’t revealed so what’s the big deal
Not being able to run when pointing diagonals might mean your controller's joysticks have poor circularity. The dualsense has an especially poor history of that. Thankfully someone made a tool you can use to recalibrate your sticks. Some games just might not show it as they don't require full lock to show you as in a running state. Many have also noticed dualsense controllers aging incredibly fast so they started modifying them with hall effect sticks. Still the sticks will require a calibration after installing them. Either way if you want to check the circularity someone made a site that lets you check it. It's just called hardware tester gamepad tester. If when doing circularity test you see areas the joysticks don't cover the circle your calibration is off. Overshooting is fine, but not coving the circle means you can't get full movement in games that require it.
I enjoy his reviews but not his playthroughs? Hmm. Maybe he's just a little too negative for me. Sorry. And that he makes jokes during emotional moments
I'd rather be more excited for a Shadow level than a flipping Sonic Forces one. Also Shadow the hedgehog game was better and more interesting than Sonic Forces in my opinion.
I would say a map issue. There would have been one and chaos island would have unlocked right before going up radical highway. But that would throw off the set number of challenges to get the keys.
Well now I guess I can bump the rank from Just a C+ to a B for I still don't like the 2D side gameplay and the fact that I have to boost on rails as to tapping the button to earn speed on rails like in the older games. The automation I can slightly forgive if it doesn't happen too often.
Radical Highway was the first level, third level, seventh level, and final two levels and boss fight. Green Hill Zone 2.0 is crazy I'm so frustrated because the game starts off so incredibly strong.
@@sonicmaiden2871 yes you are 100% correct. I just do ( laughs in lonelyness) as a calling card of sorts and to show that I do realize that yes saying (first) and or other numbers is a bit cringe but I find it enjoyable how many different responses you can get with this type of comment
Overall good experience but still dropped the ball with stuff like: - Chaos Island like seriously why is it here? it doesn't make sense! Since when has Shadow set foot on there and why we haven't heard about it before? - No real Shadow the Hedgehog representation in form of a level, something like Sky Troops, Digital Circuit or making the last level a mish mash of the Black Comet levels would've been great. - I don't like Mephiles' voice. - Using Radical Highway as the last bloody level when we've been sent to it multiple times in other levels, it feels cheap. - The trailers spoiling everything cuz of course. Other than that, it a good game worth buying since it's also packaged with Generations (I wonder why hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...)
theory: gerald robotnik specifically points out that some places are here from shadows future. theres sunset heights obviously, but maybe chaos island is a teaser for the next game?
Chaos Island being there is 1. Because its an easy way to reuse assets, and 2. Gerald says the places here are both from the past and future, it never said it was specifically related to Shadow. By all accounts it could be related to Black Doom.
"why is Chaos Island here" why can Classic Sonic go to any level past the first three in base Generations? he never went to Speed Highway, Seaside Hill, Rooftop Run etc. in any of the classic games so why can he go to those locations?
I am ECSTATIC that someone else mentioned that Shadow slightly smiles at Big the cat.
I guess he likes his vibe?
Maybe Shadow likes big's whole lifestyle of just hanging out and fishing.
Would be kinda funny in my opinion if the big bad hedghog just really likes to go fishing every once in a while.
Sure as hell beats the stress of saving the world so often.
Ngl Big the cat is probably one of the few ones who never annoyed Shadow. He also is a nice guy to hang around with. He just be fishing and chilling.
@@sonicmaiden2871its like how Sage says that the reason cyberspace recreates Big is because for Sonic Big is the definition of someone who is safe
@@carso1500 true
Shadow is actually a chill dude if youre not being a nuisance like sonic or actively getting in the way. He even respects Eggman's degree in Evil Engineering from the University of Villainy by consistently referring to him as "Doctor"
Seeing his excitement about what the shadow the hedgehog level could be just to see sunset heights in its place instead made me die inside
Yeah.. felt bad for him. I didn’t mind sunset heights and Chaos island (especially cause the levels were really good) but we definitely needed a level from Shadow 05 plus another boss fight, like with infinite, that could have been cool. Can only hope there will be free dlc in the future like frontiers.
It's so jarring to see an actually good forces level. (if it didn't get cut off by radical highway's take on sonic 4 episode 2 special stages maybe it would've been even better ) @@mrcwillis6970
Honestly, I don’t mind if they sell some more levels as DLC (given that there is a Movie Level Pack, there could be more in the future)
On one hand i hate the fact that a 50$ game only comes with 2 hours' worth of content. On the other hand though i wouldn't mind paying more for additional good levels at all. It's so weird @@EnzoZambrotti
I'm very surprised Black Comet was not a level. Feels like it should be obvious as it is literally the domain of this game's antagonist.
4:23:51 Does anyone find it odd that the rest of the Boss Gates are out in the open but Mephiles’s Boss Gate is hidden almost as if the timeline itself was trying to hide him away forever?
#SonicXShadowGenerations
Hes from a timeline that no longer exists.
Well he first appeared in 06...maybe it's a metaphor or something.
Yeah I noticed that too. Not sure if it was intentional for the developers to do that but it really feels like Mephiles is quite literally hidden. Essentially forgotten and abandoned.
@@AtomicoMacacocuz his timeline was basically deleted
@@HaydenPrometheus45 That's... That's what I'm saying. What was done in regards to the design of the White Space alludes to his actual fate.
After downloading and inspecting all the chemical plant assets in forces and comparing them to the metal overlords background assets, I can confirm that metal overlord’s boss doesn’t reuse assets from forces
That's good at least
this is great I actually like this Boss Arena. It's like a what if the boss was down in the water instead of up in the sky
They are all new assets due to it a new custom engine. Havoc hedgehog 3
Well if that's not Chemical Plant then where the fuck were they fighting?!
@@lackluster4777I was just seeing if they were or weren’t reused assets I don’t know where they fighting
Black Doom: “Shadow, let’s go to Radical Highway, Shadow!”
"Hey shadoooow, It's meee, the deviiiil. I love Radical Highwaaaaay, I want to spend more time on iiiit"
Pretty sure the Metal Overlord fight using Doom Surf is a reference to the fact that Final Fortress was initially supposed to be flooded
I have no idea why he kept saying the Metal Overlord boss was in chemical plant
It clearly has a white and red color scheme and new assets based on heros
Also looking back, Generations did the exact same kind of marketing with its levels and bosses, they pretty much showed off everything except the final boss
The assets were original and I made sure by downloading both gens and forces assets to compare
@@ProjectJ007 that’s what I’m saying
I was replying the shadow games recently as well to get caught up, it’s pretty clear it’s all new stuff based on final fortress
None of it has any theming from any of the chemical plants
@@jamesjerk5538actually forces has slight similarities like the pipes and ball things but that’s it, the models are definitely different
Should have made a few eggman turrets to really drive home that it's Final Fortress.
Imo Kingdom Valley looks better graphically in this game then in 06
I think rob might be thinking of project 06 kingdom valley
@@ProjectJ007 yeah was thinking that cause OG '06 is nowhere near on the same quality that Shadow Gens is in terms of graphics. Funny how a lot of people think of P-06 now when thinking of '06 and not the actual game itself, just shows how professional and good P-06 is at being a great sonic game.
Here are time stamps. (Spoiler warning for those who haven’t played the game yet)
0:00 the beginning (duh..)
4:30 Dark Beginnings EP3 react
13:55 starts up the game
19:20 Shadows Story
22:32 Opening cutscene
24:12 it begins… space colony ark act 1
26:09 testing how it controls
28:06 cool Chaos control moment
29:54 Robs reaction to shadow 05 sound effect
30:10 Doom… “He’s back!”
41:10 cutscene with time eater and fake emerald (guess you could say it’s like taking candy from a baby) 42:34 the Void open zone begins
48:05 collection room
52:20 Space colony ark Act 2 (and 2d returns but it’s fine, they good)
54:55 Doom Wings!
1:00:28 cutscene shadow “seeing things”
1:00:40 Doom Spears!
1:09:42 robs hopes
1:13:45 Rail canyon act 1
1:16:07 flashbacks and fanboying
1:17:21 here he comes again…
1:22:28 Shadow BLINK!
1:22:44 Rail canyon act 2
1:27:00 Orbot and Cubot are here
1:30:21 black arms enemy’s return
1:31:15 Doom Blast!
1:34:14 Space colony ark and Rail canyon challenges for keys and chasing those music notes for stuff
1:57:44 black goons… 0-0
2:00:47 Biolizard boss
2:06:26 map fully opens and Black doom appears
2:08:56 Doom Surf!
2:09:50 looking around and collecting
2:11:23 um… about shadow 05 level… (spoilers there is none, it’s sad) much copium will be around the stream
2:11:40 Kingdom Vallay act 1
2:19:09 Sunset heights act 1 (sonic forces redemption let’s go! Well not fully but still wow it feels good to have a good forces levels)
2:22:03 here he comes again…
2:25:30 more exploring
2:30:00 Sunset heights act 2
2:34:05 Maria and Gerald are back
2:37:31 more exploring and collecting
2:44:35 Kingdom valley act 2
2:48:48 BIG THE CAT
2:54:33 Kingdom Valley and Sunset heights challenges for keys and music notes again
3:20:47 Metal overlord boss
3:33:17 Gerald explains what’s going on with his new powers and his connection with Doom.
3:36:24 Shadow eats Ribeena..?
3:36:53 Doom Morph!
3:39:00 Chaos island act 1
3:43:57 more exploring and collecting
3:51:47 Chaos island act 2
3:54:55 cool sonic vs shadow cutscene (recreated battle from Sonic Generations) plus sonic got the fake emerald, plus rouge is here now
3:58:15 more exploring and collecting
4:03:37 Chaos island challenges for keys and music notes
4:10:14 big fart… 0-0
4:24:57 Mephiles the dark boss
4:29:31 Black doom making Shadow have anger and hate, Maria helps him (no more BAZINGA XD) also wow Rob 0-0
4:33:01 Doom Wings (for real this time) plus the final begins…
4:34:49 talking to Maria and Gerald before going to doom, super sweet, then getting to the top of the map
4:38:05 Radical highway act 1 (rip, levels are cool but still.. man)
4:43:14 Radical highway act 2
4:51:38 here we go the final… Devil Doom
4:52:40 Dooms funny laugh XD
4:57:15 Neo Devil Doom and ALL HAIL SHADOW REMIX!
5:01:41 the end of doom…
5:03:03 the realistic explosion XD
5:03:31 final cutscene
5:04:09 that would be funny and awkward XD
5:05:12 one last goodbye…
5:06:32 credits
5:07:15 he gives his thoughts on the game and why there’s no level from Shadow 05 (he likes it lots and had fun despite the negatives he has with the game, and yeah they showed too much in trailer and ads)
5:27:24 ranking out of 10
5:18:47 goes back in to find there’s more content
5:20:04 talks more about Shadow 05 and other stuff and hopes for more free dlc, plus heroes remake and shadow 05 remake (I hope there’s more levels other than the movie one)
Well that’s it… man that was a lot, took me a while to do this but I hope it’s helpful if you want to see a certain point. This was super fun ❤🖤
Where's the timestamp of where he says Damn?
@@XP9724literally came here for this 😂 oh well…i’ll have to remember where it was and listen for it again haha
Good list tho, super helpful otherwise!
"I don't like that they're using the generations model" bro it's literally playing generations
Yeah but the Sonic model in Shadow Gens ins't the one from Generations so...
Shadow's model in shadow gens isn't even the one from generations, it's the one from forces, same thing for Sonic
This is implying more that black doom has a deeper connection to the chaos emeralds. I wonder if hes connected to the ancients, chaos, and the end
Even more considering Doom COULD USE CHAOS CONTROL,without any emeralds
It is interesting that doom knows enough about using chaos emeralds to teach other people how to do it, when the ancients seem to have been unable despite them being from their planet.
Id speculate about a connection between him and The End, but their modus operandi is completely different.
@@gabrielmachado1247well maybe he doesn't need hold on to an emerald, shadow has the chaos emerald when he was fighting him
@@gabrielmachado1247 Black Doom could always do this, he uses chaos control in the final battle of Shadow '05
i dont really get the complaints about chaos island not making sense. Shadow Generations was released 13 years after sonic generations, so it has the cool opportunity to actually pull levels from the future rather than just the past.
Also it was never like an established rule that the character had to be have been to the level before, classic sonic goes to a bunch of levels he doesn't have, and like sonic's friends appear outside of levels they haven't been to in previous games. (and in generations 3ds, sonic gets radical highway and biolizard)
But like i get wanting a shadow the hedgehog level tho, like digital circuit would have been cool
We did sorta get one in Space Colong Ark, since it takes inspo from both SA2 and Sha05
I thought it was confirmed through character dialogue that shadow would be in Frontiers 2?
well if that one theory is correct the Black Arms are a race of Ancients that got corrupted, so maybe it's some sort of respect from black doom to honor his kin?
What people don't realize is that Shadow having a Chaos Island stage despite not being in Frontiers is *most certainly* a reference to Sonic having a cyber stage based on Sky Rail despite never being there himself.
/s
@@MegaGlassguy that is a comically large stretch
Seeing shadow generations acknowledge that sonic x exists feels weird
I just realized... the reason why RadicalSoda's high pitched comedic voice gives me deja vu... is because he sounds just like CUBOT
I'm never gonna unheard that now.
this game only needed 2 more stages, an actual stage from shadow the hedgehog, and asteroid coaster for the funzies
This game is one of the reasons why I don't watch trailers anymore. I had a pretty fun time guessing what the next level might be this way, however that also means I missed the pre-release animations until after I already beat the game so...
Yeah i'll probably avoid watching all the trailers before a game releases. They basically spoiled all the zones and left no surprises :/
Maybe I should watch only the initial gameplay trailer when they announce a game from now on?
41:36 I have a feeling he took the fake emerald so when Sonic takes his Chaos Emerald later on, he can still use Chaos Control.
5:33:56 of Sodaberg avoiding all spoilers and losing his mind over a Sonic game being good...
The day Shadow says "Dick" we have unlocked the true Sonic X Shadow generations.
The theme around 1:33:00 I believe is from shadow the hedgehog although it's an odd remix and possibly a mash up with time eater. Its the chaos blast theme, when you glow red, "aaaAARG, death to all who oppose me!"
After beating the game myself, I kinda wish the final stage had been Westopolis instead of Radical Highway
Not only to represent the Shadow game, but because it’s essentially the place where Black Doom began his manipulation of Shadow
ending it for good where everything started, y’know
Granted on a story origin basis, shadow was first introduced on radical highway. Like a circle
act 2's beginning has a very similar layout to the start of westopolis, if that's worth anything
The Shadow logo was always the Black Arms symbol. You can find it a couple places in Shadow the Hedgehog that their symbol is on their weapons.
I loved that radical highway was so late, it gave me goosebumps how quiet and deserted it seemed at first.
I'll tell you if he says the D word after this video is done processing
He doesn't
@@captansuieelthanks bud
Damn.@@captansuieel
41:46 I forgot you were playing Generations for a second there, and was very confused by the appearance of the Time Eater
This was a super fun stream, lost a lot of sleep for that night but it was worth it seeing Rads reactions and genuinely having a fun time despite the issues he has with the game. Overall even tho there was some missed opportunity with levels and what characters/bosses could have shown up and how much lore could have been developed. (Plus I do feel it should have been a bit longer) This was amazing, so much love went into the level desgin and animations and bosses. The interactions with shadow and characters was really sweet and the open area was really neat and there’s plenty to collect. Plus it looks so beautiful and the soundtrack is fantastic. So happy shadow got his time to shine after all these years. Hope they continue to keep it up and improve further as much as possible like all company’s should do. ❤️🖤
2:11:14 Rob finds out there’s not a Shadow the hedgehog level
I think Chaos Island could've easily been replaced with Digital Circuit, Cryptic Castle or Lava Shelter. But they probably decided to prioritize other games since Black Doom is already the main villain.
Either that or make it so all Radical Highway sections before the final level happen in different Shadow the Hedgehog levels.
Don't tell Rob the Ark and the music from from Ark is from Shadow the Hedgehog
Oh yeah. Fair enough. The ARK could be counted as a SA2 level as well though. Well except for the music.
That makes so much sense. If it were from SA2, it would have been called "Final Chase". It's just confusing because the levels are otherwise in chronological order, so you naturally assume this level is the SA2 one.
Is this a joke? The music from the Ark is Final Rush from Sonic’s level in SA2. Plus the some of the trailers in the marketing were comparing the Ark level to SA2 so it’s very much obviously a level that’s meant to be from SA2
Cmon. It’s weird that the only level from Shadow the Hedgehog is the one that’s practically indistinguishable from one from SA2.
Which is based off final rush. The music is final rush.
Shadow's Salty liquids fly directly into Rouge's Face 5:06:16
there's no pleasing this man anymore, is there....
This is why I stopped watching his videos. He's just complaining at this point to be a contrarian.
What are you dimwits talking about,do you generalay hear no praise,just stop whinging and SHUT UP already!"oh look at me..I hate that this guy has an opinion" thats the only sentence you bothersome peoplr know to say,including the idiots that liked the comment..I swear
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Look..sorry for the words but you guys are litteral examples of bad sonic fans..sonic fans that only WANT to hear praise you guys are too lazy fo hear and it bugs many people,atleast ones that know constructive criticsism.
@@CTOACN what did you even just say?
@@KFCGull just this reply section and this comment above inckuding the 14 likes is humiliating...
5:22:06 if you are saying they ripped assets from 06 then how can you say 06 kingdom valley looks better than Shadow Generations
rad just likes to complain for views
So glad you decided to stream a new sonic game, regardless of how you feel about the game it's exciting to see your first reactions, I hope you do this more in the future rob!
Damn soda was right about the upset metal overlord chemical plant fans on the vod.
Or alternatively
Keep Chaos Island, Have a Shadow level, And then you can keep Radical Highway as the final final level
"I just think Radical Highway is really neat."
Shadow The Hedgehog 2005 is my favorite Sonic game and I'm so mad that there isn't any levels from that game in this. They could've used the Doom Wings for levels like Sky Troops or Cryptic Castle. It would've been really cool to use the Doom Surf at Prison Island. If they wanted to make a normal Sonic level from the game than Westopolis, Central City, Glyphic Canyon, or maybe even Cosmic Fall or Space Gadget would've been great choices.
It's funny that you would mention "Cosmic Fall" or "Space Gadget" but ignore the fact that "The ARK" is literally one of the levels in "Shadow The Hedgehog" the only thing is you aren't riding "black volts" this time around since it wouldn't make any sense from a story perspective and using the black wings and chaos sphere is a better substitute anyway. Also there is a lot of aspects taken from "Space Gadget" and even with those indoor sections for me feel like "Cosmic Fall" there just isn't stuff constantly collapsing.
Like I get being unsatisfied with that particular level being chosen but why would "Cosmic Fall" or "Space Gadget" be any more satisfying for you? Also "Westopolis" and "Central City" would feel just like "Radical Highway" to a point where I mistakenly thought that was where Black Doom was sending Shadow up until the level itself.
@@GAHAHAHHYou know what? Now that a couple days have passed I can absolutely say that I was coping REALLY hard when they didn't include a full level from Shadow's own game. Getting an S rank on most of these levels, especially the first level made me see the similarities of Shadow's own game. Still would've preferred it if they gave us an actual level from the game though. If they are willing to make a pack of more levels including levels from Shadow's game then I'd love to buy that if it ever does happen.
@@darkmaster2349 I will give you some respect because it take a mature person to admit something like that.
"maybe theyre going to completely remake shadow the hedgehog"
Friend, i think you might be coping a little...but im right there with you. Despite its "reputation" i love the hell out of shadow 05. I go back and play a few story paths every few months.
I was coping real hard
1:34:08 It's a remix of Shadow's theme in SA2
God bless this persnickety bird
Enjoying a sonic game? Thats crazy
If you're wondering if he ever gets over the lack of a Shadow 05 level, no, he doesn't 😅
Man... I got lucky by going into this completely blind. All I knew was the wings and Black Doom. 😭
2:31:20 for some reason air dashing won't make you boost once you hit the ground
So i see lots of people complaining that radical highway is the final level when you were sent there multiple tkmes before
It feels obvious that itd ve the final one, thats the zone black doom seems to have control over, it makes perfext sense the final zone is the one the final boss keeps sending you too
More than anything I'm just very worried about Sonic Team starting to force feed that level like they do with Green Hill Zone. If Shadow's next game has up to 9 or 15 Radical Highways I'm going to lose my mind.
Something nobody real talks about, most of the quick time events in this game mean nothing. The only one you can fail is the very first one on the Ark where it doesn't even kill you, Shadow just does a cheesy animation and teleports back. The ones on the boss fights will do the same animation whether you hit the button or not at all. There is no punishment for failing a QTE in the bosses so they mean absolutely nothing.
I personally had no problems with Shadow's jump. Making landings was never hard
bro really gotta hop off forces it’s been 7 years
Forces is still trash though so I don't blame him. In fact, I'm probably guilty of that as well.
Forces is a great example for how not to do a boost game, so it’s a good comparison to make when talking about the boost formula.
I think it’s worth pointing out how excited Rob was for that game. I remember him talking about how excited he was. So I think the disappointment still burns.
@@BrisketSurge true. It's the worst boost game we got so far so it's a good comparison point for the boost formula games. Also I was really excited for Sonic Forces at that time as well. Especially for Infinite, Chaos and the avatar. And I just hoped that we'll get a game as good as Sonic Generations along with them since, you know, THEY ADVERTISED IT "FROM THE CREATORS OF COLORS AND GENERATIONS". The game didn't even have half of the quality Generations had and Chaos 0 got no boss, Infinite didn't even get a final boss and idk what happened to him after the events of Sonic Forces because they never flipping show it in game and the avatar controlled badly and had the same short, linear and automated levels as the rest. The whole game just felt short, underwhelming, way too linear and way too automated. In fact, I was so frustrated by it that I flipping switched to the Rayman series till Sonic Frontiers released and played Rayman 2, Redemption and Origins (great games and don't regret playing those though).
It’s still a relatively recent game
@@RiqMoney817 you’re right, tho I really do think it’s better to celebrate a forces level being improved in many ways than be disappointed that it’s there at all
1:27:00 By all accounts it doesn’t make sense, Orbot originated in Unleashed and Cubot in Colours, and Eggman seemingly abandoned them in space when he found the Time Eater.
The only game they _could_ have gained knowledge of Shadow is, unironically, Colours DS of all games. Colours DS, unlike Generations and Lost World on 3DS, is actually canon. Shadow appears in that game, so a possibility is they met directly off screen (Omega was terrorising them at one point).
Granted I wish sonic team acknowledged the ds games more. Thats the main issue
@@JeskidoYTi mean the last time they did we got one of the biggest plot holes from Sonic 06, so maybe its for the best they don't.
I love the song for Chaos Island Act 1!
Is that the 3DS remix of Radical Highway?
nope
None of the 3ds remixes are in the game.
@@SpeedsterBlur me when Casino Night Pinball reuses 3DS Act 2.
did you notice that every act 1 is only 3D and every act 2 is only 2D but radical highway is only 3d in both
1:53:55 IS THAT HATSUNE MIKU ON THE TIMER BAR???????????
its a cursor 😭
Have you played Prototype? I got huge vibes of it playing Shadow Generations with the cool mutation powers. Shadow should have a Prototype-style game.
One thing I've learned from watching people do the beginning of the Biolizard fight is that there are a criminal number of people who have not played SA2 lol. Thankfully you only have to do that part once.
Can't wait for your next video reviewing this (?
Same!
People meme on Sonic x Shadow being in the game’s title, but *no one except me* noticed that Sonic X is in the title.
4:38:09 shadows first ever level in the debut game
When was this streamed 😢
I don’t get your problem with them showing off the new abilities in the trailers. “Imagine people’s reactions if they saw them in game first” I imagine they’d look a lot like the reactions they had from the trailers. Like, are we going to chastise sonic colors for doing it too? They’re relevance to the story wasn’t revealed so what’s the big deal
7:30 heavy dog and blue falcon are the same machines
No flying dog and heavy dog are the gun walkers. blue falcon is literally the blue falcon from fzero using a remix of flying dogs theme.
Same machines, but blue falcon can fly. Heavy dog can't
@@sidestream7876Unfortunately, you are quite wrong. The flying one is actually called blue falcon
4:10:13 saving for my enjoyment
Enjoy, Soda, you're in for a treat here. 🤘😎
3:35:58 not snapcube, lythero
Not being able to run when pointing diagonals might mean your controller's joysticks have poor circularity. The dualsense has an especially poor history of that. Thankfully someone made a tool you can use to recalibrate your sticks. Some games just might not show it as they don't require full lock to show you as in a running state. Many have also noticed dualsense controllers aging incredibly fast so they started modifying them with hall effect sticks. Still the sticks will require a calibration after installing them.
Either way if you want to check the circularity someone made a site that lets you check it. It's just called hardware tester gamepad tester. If when doing circularity test you see areas the joysticks don't cover the circle your calibration is off. Overshooting is fine, but not coving the circle means you can't get full movement in games that require it.
52:14 having some good fun up until that level showed up
2:11:00 but hey there's dlcs coming up 😃
is Rad finally ... FEELIN' GOOD ... ? :|
Is Chemical Plant actually reused?
Not in shadows part
I enjoy his reviews but not his playthroughs? Hmm. Maybe he's just a little too negative for me. Sorry. And that he makes jokes during emotional moments
Sonic Team lost its edge. No more swearing, no more guns, and no more Rouge cleavage.
Kids, think of the kids
You're crazy for expecting that in a Sonic game
@@JohnDoe-dw3hj Shadow the Hedgehog (2005) exists. Fake fan detected.
@@JeskidoYT Frick them kids.
@@JeskidoYT Forget them kids
Or maybe they specifically chose not to include a Shadow stage not because they didnt have time or budget, But because they didn't want to?
I mean that is a valid reason but either way it’s kinda baffling, with how much is taken from that game you’d expect for there to be a stage from it
I'd rather be more excited for a Shadow level than a flipping Sonic Forces one. Also Shadow the hedgehog game was better and more interesting than Sonic Forces in my opinion.
I would say a map issue. There would have been one and chaos island would have unlocked right before going up radical highway. But that would throw off the set number of challenges to get the keys.
I highly doubt it was because they didn't want to, but because they didn't have the time. Why else is Chaos Island and Sunset Heights here?
5:01:36 did he just fucking rider kick black doom?
Well now I guess I can bump the rank from Just a C+ to a B for I still don't like the 2D side gameplay and the fact that I have to boost on rails as to tapping the button to earn speed on rails like in the older games. The automation I can slightly forgive if it doesn't happen too often.
Radical Highway was the first level, third level, seventh level, and final two levels and boss fight. Green Hill Zone 2.0 is crazy
I'm so frustrated because the game starts off so incredibly strong.
Black Comet should’ve been the final level still enjoyed the game just wish it had a Shadow The Hedgehog level.
And it ends strong too, it’s a very good game
@@vj6566 I strongly disagree, but I'm glad you enjoyed it!
@@vj6566we should kinda bully these sonic fans out for having the wrong opinion right my man?
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Was the racist black joke even necessary?
You check yourself on so many other jokes but racism wasn't something wroth checking on huh?
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What joke did he make? Timestamp?
God I forgot why I unsubscribed here
2ed comment(laughs in lonelyness)
4rd comment
@@PiousMoltar yaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!! 🎉4th🎉 🔥 🦔🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
If you'd comment on the video's topic maybe you wouldn't have been lonely 🤔
@@sonicmaiden2871 yes you are 100% correct. I just do ( laughs in lonelyness) as a calling card of sorts and to show that I do realize that yes saying (first) and or other numbers is a bit cringe but I find it enjoyable how many different responses you can get with this type of comment
@@michaelmunns fair I suppose
Overall good experience but still dropped the ball with stuff like:
- Chaos Island like seriously why is it here? it doesn't make sense! Since when has Shadow set foot on there and why we haven't heard about it before?
- No real Shadow the Hedgehog representation in form of a level, something like Sky Troops, Digital Circuit or making the last level a mish mash of the Black Comet levels would've been great.
- I don't like Mephiles' voice.
- Using Radical Highway as the last bloody level when we've been sent to it multiple times in other levels, it feels cheap.
- The trailers spoiling everything cuz of course.
Other than that, it a good game worth buying since it's also packaged with Generations (I wonder why hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...)
theory: gerald robotnik specifically points out that some places are here from shadows future. theres sunset heights obviously, but maybe chaos island is a teaser for the next game?
Chaos Island being there is 1. Because its an easy way to reuse assets, and 2. Gerald says the places here are both from the past and future, it never said it was specifically related to Shadow. By all accounts it could be related to Black Doom.
I think its up there as one of the best Sonic games. Its amazing
"why is Chaos Island here" why can Classic Sonic go to any level past the first three in base Generations? he never went to Speed Highway, Seaside Hill, Rooftop Run etc. in any of the classic games so why can he go to those locations?
@@heyitshedgie But he did go on to go to those places. Shadow hasn't
game peaked at rail C... O6 levels where good