This was great. I bought an old set of Ping Eye woods from Salvation Army last weekend and I need to extend the shafts slightly. Thank you for sharing this information.
I really liked that you mentioned the old school methods! An old club pro I worked for in the 70’s did the shaft in shaft extensions occasionally. Great information, and very good explanations provided. Thanks!
Hi there from France. I used your tip to repair my 4 iron shaft broken 5" down from the grip's tip. Used an old iron steel shaft cut to length then fitted a new grip. I hit dozens of balls with it since. PERFECT !!
Great info, thanks for sharing. Back in the dark ages I extended my first set of clubs with oak dowels. Sanded a slight taper, epoxied and hammered in tight then sanded smooth to the shaft and cut to length. 30+ years later my youngest is wanting to take up golf and she's too tall for standard women's clubs. I knew there had to be a better way. Again, thanks for sharing.
This procedure is only advisable if the resulting increase in swing weight will work for you. Depending on the golfer, some can be very sensitive to swing weight/club weight changes. This is partly why it is best to go get fitted for clubs, and buy the right shafts in terms of weight and flex, and at the custom length that best suits the player, before buying the entire set of irons or wedges. Testing different shafts in a simulator is still the best way to go. It's also much easier in the long run to buy a slightly longer shaft, as they can always be chopped down to the correct size later on.
New to all this. How do you know the correct size extender to buy for steel if your not sure how to determine the ‘size” of the original shaft? You threw out numbers but not how that’s determined. Thx great video. Ready to try but need more help knowing what to buy to extend my irons.
I, in the last couple of years have become fascinated with club building and repair. I have learned a lot by watching your presentations. I appreciate it. I am a perfectionist, and I don't do anything half-ass, it's amazing the corners some guys will cut while building! Anyway, keep up the good stuff! What grit sandpaper do you recommend for graphite and steel? Thanks in advance!
I asked you in the comments of a previous video about using 5 minute epoxy on the steel tips while installing a club head. I'll have to buy some 24 hour epoxy now. People are worried about the extensions softening the shaft flex. If anything the extesions would make the butt end stiffer due to the inserted piece. Also, the swing weight would make the butt end heavier which is a good thing if you watch the commercial for the secret grip. I still don't know what to do with all the left over center metal pieces. They are too short to use as alignment aids.
When enlarging the diameter of the extension if too small you suggest making tape. Will the tape interfere with the bonding glue between the extension piece and the internal shaft?
Masking tape , afew people asking if it interferes with epoxy. If the part of the extension that goes into the shaft is say 2" - cut or use 1/4 wide tape on the furthest part in and on the least furthest part in . Leaving the majority free of tape . The 1/4 wide bits will get you a tight centered fit and the epoxy will do the rest. Tried and tested. 👍
Thanks for the video…just wondering about swing weight implications? I’m confident about extending my irons, but not about how it’ll affect swing weights? Thanks in advance!
Hi and thanks for your lessons. I want to ask you, if I'm playing 2 times per week and another day I'm training in driving range how often should I change my shafts? Last time I did it 3 years ago after a custom fitting session and today I started to feel a little bit wobbly. Thanks!
What's the MINIMUM you would extend a shaft? I bought a set of shafts online and 2 of them are about 1/4-1/2" short. They're for me and I'm thinking of letting it go but it's my first custom set and I'm diying them. So I'm a little particular about it being right.
I imagine that wooden decks and iron men refers to the battleships of WW2 such as the USS Massachusetts or possibly the personnel carriers that ferried the boys to Omaha beach. If it’s a movie reference, my guess would be “the longest day.”
I'm worried about adding to much weight to the shaft. I have what's supposed to be a 53g shaft that weighs 59 grams and its 43". I think at 44 installed in my callaway driver it should be a touch over 45 but I don't want to add any more than I have too. I was going to shorten the adapter too.
Question: If you put masking tape on the extension to make it fit tight...then it seems to me that in reality the only thing holding that extension in the golf club would be the gripping power of the masking tape's adhesive. The epoxy holding it in would only be attached to the outside of the masking tape...not to the extension itself. It seems to me that the extension could come lose from the masking tape...right or wrong?
Hello, great extension video. You said you were going to mention the new type of extension where resizing the inserted end wouldn't be needed. Can you comment on that?
can a graphite shaft be made stiffer by adding spray foam ? I also saw on a forum that wrapping bottom 18 inches of a shaft with medical tape would also stiffen shaft. your thoughts?
how does an 1" extension on irons compare to reshafting (with the same shaft) as far as the feel/performance in either graphite or steel irons- the ones i've done for woods seem to change the entire feel of the club vs reshafting.
my shafts are true temper s300 dynamic gold and their website shows the butt being ,600. When looking to buy the extension, would I buy the ,600 extension? assuming the taper will fit properly? Or is the measure of .600 on the extension for the part that fits in the club butt, thus requiring a smaller size, such as .580?? Thanks for an informative video.
What changes with the weighting of the club? I’ve always been told that when you order clubs to length from the manufacturer they do something to them to account for the length. I’m considering extending my clubs myself because they’re about an inch too short(standard length need +1”) and I know I could do it. I’m worried about the weight, I want them to be the same as if I ordered them from the manufacturer +1”. Is it as simple as just doing the extensions and I’m done?
Great video and very clear on everything. But I have a question. I'm wondering if I do this to all 13 of my clubs and add one inch to them, does it change the shaft quality or stiffness? If it doesn't then I'm going to do it but if it does then I need to buy all new shafts. Thank you very much
I dont recommending using masking tape as a shim... someone used masking tape on an extension for a graphite shaft for me; the masking tape prevents the glue from bonding to the shaft, effectively making the connection as good as masking tape. It broke within a year and I pulled it out by hand. If perhaps it was used on the end only it might of worked.
Hi Mr McGolf. Hello from Cambridge, England. I love your workshop and your attention to detail. I’m going to extend some granite shaft so am waiting on plastic type extenders to arrive. I’d also like to extend a steel shafted putter. Just wondering if it’d be ok to use the same type of extender (I’ll have a few left). I get that steel extenders should be used for steel swing clubs but wondered if it’d be ok to break that rule for a putter. I assume that it’d be ok in terms of strength when playing but perhaps not in terms of differential expansion when left in a hot car. I’d appreciate your advice. Thanks, Keith
I have a two iron and I had Dicks Sporting Goods cut it down to 39 1/2 but they made a mistake and cut it down to 39 inches I wanted a refund for the service in the money bag for the shaft I bought but they said they can only do the extension and I wanted to know does this affect the club And doesn’t last long as if it was a brand new chef I will the lifespan be shortened because it has an extension on it can you please get back with me ASAP I am very upset about the situation
Extending a putter shaft. Do you still need to go like for like? If you want to keep the swing weight the same, I presume you check it before the extension, then add lead tape to the head after the extension to bring it back to spec? Thanks in advance!
I prefer like for like however there are some graphite extension for longer extensions. Some would like you to think 4 to 6 inches is ok on a putter and make the extender that long. However, the torque the putter receives is not from the swing but from the standing on it and other abuses it takes. I do a bit longer say 2 inches on a putter. before adding lead tape take the putter out for a spin, you might just like it the
Clipper Ships and Captains by Rosemary and Stephen Vincent Benet There was a time before our time, It will not come again, When the best ships still were wooden ships But the men were iron men. From Stonington to Kennebunk The Yankee hammers plied To build the clippers of the wave That were New England's pride. The "Flying Cloud," the "Northern Light," The "Sovereign of the Seas"-- There was salt music in the blood That thought of names like these. "Sea Witch," "Red Jacket," "Golden Age," And "Chariot of Fame," The whole world gaped to look at them Before the steamship came. Their cargoes were of tea and gold, Their bows a cutting blade; And, on the bridge, the skippers walked, Lords of the China trade. The skippers with the little beards And the New England drawl, Who knew Hong Kong and Marblehead And the Pole Star over all. Stately as churches, swift as gulls, They trod the oceans, then No man had seen such ships before And none will see again.
from ChipNRun I have a set of backup SLDR irons which came with stock KBS C-Taper 90 Lite (a proprietary shaft similar to KBS Tour 90); This is .370 parallel tip, and flex is Regular. The standard SLDR shaft length came with a 37.75" 5i, with half-inch shaft increments up and down the set. In fittings, I come out needing a 5i about 38.25" long. I tend to get hits toward toe on the SLDRs. If I extend the SLDR shafts a half inch, what would be the best route to go for stability and playability? * Softstep the set, and not have to butt-trim anything. (And, the grips are still good) * Put a half-inch extension into all the shafts. What would your advice be?
McGolf, Have you ever attached an extra long shaft to a chipping club? I've gone to the long/chest putter and believe a longer shaft may help with the "chip-yips."
When you extend the length of the shaft....you change the lie position of the club head. It "might" cause you directional problems. It makes the toe of the club slightly higher than the heel. The more you extend it...the greater that distance becomes.
Hi, I need to lengthen my clubs by 1/2 inch. Since I have a 3-PW set and I never use my 3 iron I decided to switch my shafts 1 iron fwd. so 3 iron shaft goes into 4, 4 shaft goes into 5 and so on. Is it a good idea?
Also have you experienced with counterbalancing- and do you have a video on it- I changed to a counterbalanced putter and abra-ca-dabra, I'm a great putter :)
@@McGolf also- i had a set of wedges sent off to get drilled out from 355 to 370- the shaft still wont quit fit is there a regular drill bit i can by(amazon/ebay) that i can use to finish the job.
Some video making hints. Stand further back, waste up, not shoulders up. Don’t hold up something close to the camera to get a better look. Your auto focus can’t keep up. Reflection in your glasses shows your computer screen or window. Don’t have a clock in the background. You can see how many edits you did. Great information though.
If it’s a steel shaft, just heat up the shaft at the point where the extender is, the twist the extension with pliers until the epoxy gives way. If it’s a graphite shaft, there’s not much you can do.
I use them exclusively on graphite for weight. I dont go over inch of extension just to be safe. to prevent the shaft from breaking. The con is that typically it needs some build up tape to be equal on the outside of the shaft
This was great. I bought an old set of Ping Eye woods from Salvation Army last weekend and I need to extend the shafts slightly. Thank you for sharing this information.
I really liked that you mentioned the old school methods! An old club pro I worked for in the 70’s did the shaft in shaft extensions occasionally. Great information, and very good explanations provided. Thanks!
You’re making me a better clubmaker, McGolf. Thanks for the tips and tricks!
Hi there from France. I used your tip to repair my 4 iron shaft broken 5" down from the grip's tip. Used an old iron steel shaft cut to length then fitted a new grip. I hit dozens of balls with it since. PERFECT !!
Great info, thanks for sharing. Back in the dark ages I extended my first set of clubs with oak dowels. Sanded a slight taper, epoxied and hammered in tight then sanded smooth to the shaft and cut to length. 30+ years later my youngest is wanting to take up golf and she's too tall for standard women's clubs. I knew there had to be a better way. Again, thanks for sharing.
Thanks for posting this. It is the exact info I needed since I'm a taller person.
Man, you can get reloading brushes for cleaning and deburring cases, they would work great for this.
This procedure is only advisable if the resulting increase in swing weight will work for you.
Depending on the golfer, some can be very sensitive to swing weight/club weight changes.
This is partly why it is best to go get fitted for clubs, and buy the right shafts in terms of weight and flex, and at the custom length that best suits the player, before buying the entire set of irons or wedges.
Testing different shafts in a simulator is still the best way to go.
It's also much easier in the long run to buy a slightly longer shaft, as they can always be chopped down to the correct size later on.
I need to do this with a 2 ball oddyseey putter I bought 2nd hand. I think its only 30inches or so in length. Thank you for the video
This guy rocks. Thanks as always.
New to all this. How do you know the correct size extender to buy for steel if your not sure how to determine the ‘size” of the original shaft? You threw out numbers but not how that’s determined. Thx great video. Ready to try but need more help knowing what to buy to extend my irons.
My husband uses these plans from Stodoys plans and is very happy with them. However. I love yours!
I, in the last couple of years have become fascinated with club building and repair. I have learned a lot by watching your presentations. I appreciate it. I am a perfectionist, and I don't do anything half-ass, it's amazing the corners some guys will cut while building! Anyway, keep up the good stuff! What grit sandpaper do you recommend for graphite and steel? Thanks in advance!
I asked you in the comments of a previous video about using 5 minute epoxy on the steel tips while installing a club head. I'll have to buy some 24 hour epoxy now. People are worried about the extensions softening the shaft flex. If anything the extesions would make the butt end stiffer due to the inserted piece. Also, the swing weight would make the butt end heavier which is a good thing if you watch the commercial for the secret grip. I still don't know what to do with all the left over center metal pieces. They are too short to use as alignment aids.
I dunno if you ever done a video on it but I like to see what the process is for fitting for a putter, Loved the videos for club fitting
love this tips, thank you!!
When enlarging the diameter of the extension if too small you suggest making tape. Will the tape interfere with the bonding glue between the extension piece and the internal shaft?
did you ever figure out the answer to this?
Wood
Wooden decks and iron men is a Naval term referring to the wooden decks of Older ships including battleships
Great advice 🙏🏻
Masking tape , afew people asking if it interferes with epoxy. If the part of the extension that goes into the shaft is say 2" - cut or use 1/4 wide tape on the furthest part in and on the least furthest part in . Leaving the majority free of tape . The 1/4 wide bits will get you a tight centered fit and the epoxy will do the rest. Tried and tested. 👍
Thank you for the information
Thank you, a very useful how to
Thanks for the video…just wondering about swing weight implications? I’m confident about extending my irons, but not about how it’ll affect swing weights? Thanks in advance!
extending the club make the SW number go up by design. If the extension is a small amount then I would nt worry too much about it.
I am curious about using masking tape to snug the fit of the extension. How does the tape bond with the epoxy? Seems like it would be a weak bond.
Dave Haddock I thought that too when I started. The masking tape is porous to a point and end up with epoxy on both sides.
Interesting, thanks.
Hi and thanks for your lessons. I want to ask you, if I'm playing 2 times per week and another day I'm training in driving range how often should I change my shafts? Last time I did it 3 years ago after a custom fitting session and today I started to feel a little bit wobbly. Thanks!
What's the MINIMUM you would extend a shaft? I bought a set of shafts online and 2 of them are about 1/4-1/2" short. They're for me and I'm thinking of letting it go but it's my first custom set and I'm diying them. So I'm a little particular about it being right.
Great lesson, thanks Jim. PC
Excellent!
Great video
I imagine that wooden decks and iron men refers to the battleships of WW2 such as the USS Massachusetts or possibly the personnel carriers that ferried the boys to Omaha beach. If it’s a movie reference, my guess would be “the longest day.”
I'm worried about adding to much weight to the shaft. I have what's supposed to be a 53g shaft that weighs 59 grams and its 43". I think at 44 installed in my callaway driver it should be a touch over 45 but I don't want to add any more than I have too. I was going to shorten the adapter too.
Question: If you put masking tape on the extension to make it fit tight...then it seems to me that in reality the only thing holding that extension in the golf club would be the gripping power of the masking tape's adhesive. The epoxy holding it in would only be attached to the outside of the masking tape...not to the extension itself. It seems to me that the extension could come lose from the masking tape...right or wrong?
Hello, great extension video. You said you were going to mention the new type of extension where resizing the inserted end wouldn't be needed. Can you comment on that?
How do you determine what size diameter extension you need? Where do you take the measurement?
The butt diameter of the shaft is the measurement then purchase to that.
can a graphite shaft be made stiffer by adding spray foam ? I also saw on a forum that wrapping bottom 18 inches of a shaft with medical tape would also stiffen shaft. your thoughts?
how does an 1" extension on irons compare to reshafting (with the same shaft) as far as the feel/performance in either graphite or steel irons- the ones i've done for woods seem to change the entire feel of the club vs reshafting.
CHRIS Foti it will change the feel in that the club will feel heavier and probably more flexible however the heavy feeling is the only real change
Does this procedure change the make up of the shaft? Swing weight etc?
The old US Navy Minesweeper.... I served TDY on a minesweeper out of Mayport, Fl.... a different warfare back then.....
Wooden Ships and Iron Men: The U.S. Navy's Coastal and Motor Minesweepers, 1941-1953
my shafts are true temper s300 dynamic gold and their website shows the butt being ,600. When looking to buy the extension, would I buy the ,600 extension? assuming the taper will fit properly? Or is the measure of .600 on the extension for the part that fits in the club butt, thus requiring a smaller size, such as .580?? Thanks for an informative video.
Excellent work 👏 👍.
A question, the broken part is inside of the end of the grip, any idea how to remove it without damage the grip?
What changes with the weighting of the club? I’ve always been told that when you order clubs to length from the manufacturer they do something to them to account for the length. I’m considering extending my clubs myself because they’re about an inch too short(standard length need +1”) and I know I could do it. I’m worried about the weight, I want them to be the same as if I ordered them from the manufacturer +1”. Is it as simple as just doing the extensions and I’m done?
I have a stupid question. Does by changing the length does it change swing weight. If so what next?
Great video and very clear on everything. But I have a question. I'm wondering if I do this to all 13 of my clubs and add one inch to them, does it change the shaft quality or stiffness? If it doesn't then I'm going to do it but if it does then I need to buy all new shafts. Thank you very much
Ev Meezy if you use the steel extensions all should be fine
@@McGolf okay great and the same with my Woods? Steel with steel graphite with graphite and only one inch extention... you think that should be fine?
10:57 My club fitter prefers to do it this way.
It works well, I just prefer the actual extension thanks
I dont recommending using masking tape as a shim... someone used masking tape on an extension for a graphite shaft for me; the masking tape prevents the glue from bonding to the shaft, effectively making the connection as good as masking tape. It broke within a year and I pulled it out by hand. If perhaps it was used on the end only it might of worked.
Quick question. After adding the extensions can you regrip right then or do you need to let the epoxy cure first?
Let epoxy cure first.
How can I extend my Aerotech Steel Fiber wedge shafts?
Hi Mr McGolf. Hello from Cambridge, England. I love your workshop and your attention to detail. I’m going to extend some granite shaft so am waiting on plastic type extenders to arrive. I’d also like to extend a steel shafted putter. Just wondering if it’d be ok to use the same type of extender (I’ll have a few left). I get that steel extenders should be used for steel swing clubs but wondered if it’d be ok to break that rule for a putter. I assume that it’d be ok in terms of strength when playing but perhaps not in terms of differential expansion when left in a hot car. I’d appreciate your advice. Thanks, Keith
no problem extending the putter with the steel extension part good luck
@@McGolf so are you saying don’t use a plastic extender in a steel putter?
In the putter , as long as it is an inch or so you should be good to go
Will the epoxy soak through the masking tape to adhere to the extension????
I have a two iron and I had Dicks Sporting Goods cut it down to 39 1/2 but they made a mistake and cut it down to 39 inches I wanted a refund for the service in the money bag for the shaft I bought but they said they can only do the extension and I wanted to know does this affect the club And doesn’t last long as if it was a brand new chef I will the lifespan be shortened because it has an extension on it can you please get back with me ASAP I am very upset about the situation
Extending a putter shaft. Do you still need to go like for like? If you want to keep the swing weight the same, I presume you check it before the extension, then add lead tape to the head after the extension to bring it back to spec? Thanks in advance!
I prefer like for like however there are some graphite extension for longer extensions. Some would like you to think 4 to 6 inches is ok on a putter and make the extender that long. However, the torque the putter receives is not from the swing but from the standing on it and other abuses it takes. I do a bit longer say 2 inches on a putter. before adding lead tape take the putter out for a spin, you might just like it the
Clipper Ships and Captains
by Rosemary and Stephen Vincent Benet
There was a time before our time,
It will not come again,
When the best ships still were wooden ships
But the men were iron men.
From Stonington to Kennebunk
The Yankee hammers plied
To build the clippers of the wave
That were New England's pride.
The "Flying Cloud," the "Northern Light,"
The "Sovereign of the Seas"--
There was salt music in the blood
That thought of names like these.
"Sea Witch," "Red Jacket," "Golden Age,"
And "Chariot of Fame,"
The whole world gaped to look at them
Before the steamship came.
Their cargoes were of tea and gold,
Their bows a cutting blade;
And, on the bridge, the skippers walked,
Lords of the China trade.
The skippers with the little beards
And the New England drawl,
Who knew Hong Kong and Marblehead
And the Pole Star over all.
Stately as churches, swift as gulls,
They trod the oceans, then
No man had seen such ships before
And none will see again.
from ChipNRun
I have a set of backup SLDR irons which came with stock KBS C-Taper 90 Lite (a proprietary shaft similar to KBS Tour 90); This is .370 parallel tip, and flex is Regular.
The standard SLDR shaft length came with a 37.75" 5i, with half-inch shaft increments up and down the set. In fittings, I come out needing a 5i about 38.25" long. I tend to get hits toward toe on the SLDRs.
If I extend the SLDR shafts a half inch, what would be the best route to go for stability and playability?
* Softstep the set, and not have to butt-trim anything. (And, the grips are still good)
* Put a half-inch extension into all the shafts.
What would your advice be?
extending the shaft 1/2" shouldn't be a problem, and should affect the stability
What would the max extension be for a putter?
What about welding the steel insert to the shaft? Is that ever done?
Does adding half inch Chang swing weight on irons
Board game of sea battle tactics and strategies. Wooden decks and iron men. 7734 Bay Shore Drive 46240
I have an old driver shaft that has been cut down by 1". If i extend back by 1" would that cause any issue with the flex? Thanks
okitoki1973 no not at all
McGolf, Have you ever attached an extra long shaft to a chipping club? I've gone to the long/chest putter and believe a longer shaft may help with the "chip-yips."
When you extend the length of the shaft....you change the lie position of the club head. It "might" cause you directional problems. It makes the toe of the club slightly higher than the heel. The more you extend it...the greater that distance becomes.
Hi, I need to lengthen my clubs by 1/2 inch. Since I have a 3-PW set and I never use my 3 iron I decided to switch my shafts 1 iron fwd. so 3 iron shaft goes into 4, 4 shaft goes into 5 and so on. Is it a good idea?
That’s fine. Only change would be a slight softening in flex by roughy a 1/3 of a flex
When adding 1” to the length of the irons how much does that change the swing weight ? Thanks
I've always heard 2 swing weights per half inch. So if an iron was D2 originally, then adding an inch would move it to D6.
Also have you experienced with counterbalancing- and do you have a video on it- I changed to a counterbalanced putter and abra-ca-dabra, I'm a great putter :)
CHRIS Foti we have been counter balancing for years and fully support it
@@McGolf also- i had a set of wedges sent off to get drilled out from 355 to 370- the shaft still wont quit fit is there a regular drill bit i can by(amazon/ebay) that i can use to finish the job.
Wooden decks and iron men was a sailor chanty? or a song, board game too lol
Ryne Hueth send your address to clubmaker@mcgolf.net and yes that’s it but also a reference to the older navy service members
How much would a steel shaft extension affect the flex of the shaft?
I like to extend only about an inch and the flex is not impacted to an extent you would notice.
So I need not worry about 1/4” to 1/2” extension softening my KBS 130X any?
Some video making hints. Stand further back, waste up, not shoulders up. Don’t hold up something close to the camera to get a better look. Your auto focus can’t keep up. Reflection in your glasses shows your computer screen or window. Don’t have a clock in the background. You can see how many edits you did. Great information though.
It's about information and work. Not modeling.
Please give a good source to buy the two different plug extensions I have tried Ebay without success so please help?
golfworks,,
How about a wood dowel to extend it ...
ANY TIPS ON PUTTING AN EXTENSION ON A SCANDIUM SHAFT???? CAN IT BE DONE?
THX
that shaft usually has a coating on it,. Gentle removal of the coating then glue should work
Wooden Ships and Iron Men.. My Grandfather was a Whaler from Germany ..
Great content. Do you have an injury?
Yup, took a layer of skin off the arm and its trying to grow back,
How fix a dent on clubbed surface or corner
Unfortunately you will replace it
I bought a club that was lengthened, how do I remove the extender?
If it’s a steel shaft, just heat up the shaft at the point where the extender is, the twist the extension with pliers until the epoxy gives way. If it’s a graphite shaft, there’s not much you can do.
Whats your view on the Plastic Golf Shaft Extension that are on the market these days ? "and they say for use on Graphite and metal shafts"
I use them exclusively on graphite for weight. I dont go over inch of extension just to be safe. to prevent the shaft from breaking. The con is that typically it needs some build up tape to be equal on the outside of the shaft
@@McGolf thanks man love your videos 😎👍