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Cringe betterhelp sponsorship. Stop taking their sponsorship. They're shady company with multiple class action lawsuits. No way you guys didn't know what they are.
I never thought I would see the day when Connor read Domestic Girlfriend, Joey finally start watching Arcane, & especially Garnt finally start watching FMAB
The weirdest part about Domestic Girlfriend is that... Garnt was telling the truth. The latter half of Domestic Girlfriend had really good character writing, to the point where I was like "wait, Domestic Girlfriend is good now?" Then the last 10-20 chapters happened and I went "yeah, it's Domestic Girlfriend, this was the only right way to end this colossal car crash"
@@marcorodriguez8792 Natsuo's character arc with being an author in college is absolutely brilliant. One of my favorite character developments I've ever read. Everything else is meh.
@@dreambiscuits that's definitely not the best character development ever. Because I watch a good chunk of good written romance manga either yuri or normal manga. This type of thing of exploring a character's journey to achieve what he or she wants from their life is very common. This is a troupe I would say. Domestic girlfriend is fine but I see a lot of manga with even better development.
@@laytonpro8655 Wouldn't call Full Metal Alchemist a good gateway anime cause it does have quite a slow start but yeah glad he likes it. Death Note and AOT are better for newbies
see i didn't even know that, and fortunately I had the time when i watched it. i see myself having the same opinion as Joey if i also didn't have much time
i love the forcing each other to do stuff premise, such an enjoyable thing to watch. regardless of their feel, you have one person keenly invested in it
I'm a bit iffy. The 1 hour was somewhat of a problem already in this ep, though I understand why they didn't do more. Largely this was more like a "react" or "first impressions". This really works better with something shorter (Goodby Eri) or one where the beginning has wild content (Fear and Hunger). I think being forced to consume content colors people's perception as well. I mostly liked this episode, but maybe slightly more niche, shorter stuff? Liked this better than their 5x5 eps.
@shadowreacts5618 Nice bait, it was like the 100th show I watched and still one of my top 10. Saying something is mid and your reasoning being YOU couldnt get invested without saying anything else is laughable
@shadowreacts5618don’t know what more you can want from a show, good ost, plot twists, world building, likeable characters, good villain, a satisfying ending, interesting power system, and good animation. What more can you want ?
They should've told Joey to watch the first 3 episodes of Arcane, because for anyone who hasn't seen it, episodes 1 & 2 are mainly "Here's this world, characters, and gorgeous animation" but episode 3 is the real "HOLY SHIT!" moment that hooks ANYONE who watches the show. And after that happens, the story really gets darker, with both the dialogue and animation getting better and better.
Imo saying you gave arcane a shot by watching 1 episode is equivalent to saying you watched 1/3rd of breaking bads 1st episode Am I right or am I right
I stopped after the third episode, felt the story was predictable and saw no reason to continue. What was the holy shit moment? That they went separate ways?
@@martin162asd Did you suffered brain damage or something? (Legit worry) What the fuck are you talking about? Kids died, everyone developed trauma, literally everything about the story got better and way darker as it progressed. And you didn't even watched the rest, How the fuck you call something predictable wehn you only watched THE FUCKING SET UP!?
@@martin162asd Do you suffer brain damage? How can you call something predictable when you didn't even watched the pay-off, you watched the set up! Everything got darker, and the story only gets better and better. Also stop lying, you didn't blindly watched episode one and thought "Oh, this character will die in episode 3 in this specific way" 🤓 You know that never happened.
@@martin162asd I mean I think its fine people that got to episode 3 and didint wanna continue its just not for you, but u gotta be trolling with the wondering what thw moment was or summing it up to "they went separate ways" that's wild hahahaha
Man, this was a pretty historical episode of Trash Taste, and so entertaining to listen. I genuinely want them to continue hate-reading Domestic Girlfriend and sharing their thoughts.
Honestly it's kinda sad that everyone remembers "YOU SHALL NOT PASS" but not the words that he spoke before that, cause the whole is speech is just fire... THE DARK FIRE WILL NOT AVAIL YOU, FLAME OF UDUN!
tbf, since most people haven’t read the silmarillion, they wouldn’t know the context behind gandalf’s words. so i think most ppl think it’s a spell or just plain gibberish. but i agree, gandalf revealing his true identity to the balrog is the best part.
@@some1donkus In the cinematic release there are very few direct hints at the grand story of the world. The first hint is that it's the third age, but also the whole balrog interaction directly referencing an even higher power sending him back with intent.
@@some1donkus you definitely do not need to have read silmarillion to memorize the lines lol and there's no way in hell that everyone who has memorized the lines all have read the silmarillion
@@some1donkus yeah it's probably because most people don't know about the whole history of the world, and the reason I said it's sad it's cause Gandalf actually using his maiar powers against Durin's Bane hits way more if you know what that means for him
Not an hour in and this is one of the best episodes, It's so much fun when people go out and do stuff that they swear they don't want to, great to form better connections with each other and with the audience too. Love it keep on Boys!
I mean this with my whole heart, arcane is not the type of show where the first episode will give you a full idea of how incredible it is. I’d say the first three or four are NECESSARY and absolutely worth it.
Better help is an actual scam, please educate yourself on sponsors before taking their money, especially if they provide a fundamentally broken product surrounded by lies
@@bigevilshark1958It’s probably a thing of “Oh it’s been years, they probably have fixed their shit if they are back to offering sponsors” and not looking into it any further
@bigevilshark1958 from what I've heard, they haven't improved at all since, either. Better help just offers a shit ton of sponsor money. I hate seeing my favorite creators advertise them.
Important context for Arcane is that it was released three episodes at a time so season one is essentially divided into three parts, episodes 1-3, 4-6 and 7-9.
Sad part is they've been in the game long enough, they 1000% are aware of what the company is really about, I mean I swear I remember Joey talking about it back in the day the 1st time they got exposed Sigh, and i ain't saying this as some furious parasocial stan that's feels betrayed I'm still going to watch, I'm simply disappointed
It is pretty disappointing because therapy is such a vulnerable thing. I do believe that content creators have a moral responsibility to check the products/services they promote especially when it pertains to a vulnerable group of people and when most people on the internet are aware that the service is shitty. If not, that’s their choice but then people have every right to call them out on it.
I think they might be locked in a contract its not that they want to keep the Sponsership but because they are contractly obligated to do so nobody wants to hurt their own image on such a scale, so i guess they have to wait until the contract is finished.
I looked up the guard because I thought they were being unnecessary with the BIG censoring pinecone but holy crap…the guard is the embodiment of “he’s got a 3rd leg” joke.
Basically Joey saying. "It was animated beautifully, and the world seemed like one that i really enjoyed in ff7, but someone told me I should watch it, so i'm not going to, irregardless of whether I enjoyed it or not." 😅😂
Patreon here. This is genuinely a great episode idea, and very entertaining. The Fear and Hunger talk was entrancing. And THREE HOURS! EDIT: TO BE FAIR, Arcane requires the first three eps (the first arc) to get the full impact, similar to how it was released.
After basically 2 years of waiting for Joey to watch arcane, and hearing he gave it 1 episode and didint care much for it actually broke my heart, he is never going to watch it now
@@justhaku9240 Agreed. it's literally the same as watching the first third of a movie or reading the first act of a book. Bro got all the build-up without any sort of payoff
@@yaboiaxl1216 Sure but at the same time the first time I watched arcane ep 1 I was hyped af. I loved ep 1 the entire vibe and the setting just went so hard and if you didn't really like that I'm not sure you're going to enjoy the show.
I can't believe he only spent like 5 minutes on it and another 5 explaining visuals. Just, wow. It really sucks to think he may never finish the series just because one episode had a lot of things to do and did insanely well at containing a lot of moving pieces and introducing a lot of concepts. Just not enough to hook like BB managed to.
Exactly correct. It had just finished airing a few years before. If you were interested in Brotherhood, you probably *had* just watched the original somewhat recently. So in the first season, they add an anime original first episode which is like a 20-min long movie, and mostly just contains stuff that won't make sense until like 30 episodes down the line. Then they rush through the material from the manga that the original show covered, playing up the humor, and the pacing is pretty uneven as a result. It really hits its stride in the 2nd season, and doesn't ever let up.
I am actually in the camp that still thinks that FMA 2003 is a better story than Brotherhood. The key scenes with better build up of Al and Ed's failed resurrection/transmutation of their mum, Hughes' death, Nina's chimera incident, Envy's battle with Ed, Father's impact to the story all has more emotional weight to me than Brotherhood. Also, I prefer the darker ending that connects to Conquerer of Shambala and it would have been more talked about as an opening ending compared to Brotherhood's meek and flowery ending.
I watched FMA first as well and was happy I did when I started watching Brotherhood. I couldn't imagine myself getting into the story otherwise. It was so sped up that it didn't make a lot of sense.
Should probably drop Better Help as a sponsor. The company sells patients information and the therapists they hire don’t go through a thorough background check.
@@danielelder6361 first mistake is only forcing him to watch one episode. Imagine having him watch a build-up episode and expecting him to like it as much as people who watched all first 3 episodes when the show aired.
@@a_waff1es_0pinion76 he said the first episode was ok (and most likely won't finish the season), but constantly complains about anime having strong ep 1 with the rest being weak. So yea, I think he will just say it's mid just based of ep 1
This is actually such an amazing idea for the podcast. It keeps the soul of the series with hearing based or trash takes while introducing a new discussion concept this late in the game, with this case being introducing each other to new media to then gush or rant over. Not to mention stirring up the community with the fulfilled prophecies. Keep up the great work, boys!
You should check out the versuswolves podcast. It's supereyepatchwolf and woolieVs's podcast and the entire premise of it is exactly what this episode of trash taste is. Wouldn't be surprised if that's where they got the idea from.
Let three hour episodes be the new normal please. I need more long form content. I normally blow through this podcast in one sitting and I'd like it to last longer, please.
It's called A/B testing. You release 2 different thumbnails, and sometimes 2 different titles, then watch the numbers immediately after posting to see if one does substantially better than the other, then lean into the one (or ones) that get the most/fastest clicks.
The Domestic Girlfriend segment had my crying out laughing cuz I also like it as much as Garnt and I was also getting flashbacks of the events happening
Referring to Garnt watching FMAB: when he said, it kind of felt like they expected him to already know some characters, I think this is something that doesn’t get talked about enough when FMAB came out. It did feel like they already assumed you watched the original Anime bc stuff happens so fast. I think it’s still the better series BUT It’s only as good as it is if you watched FMA first, if that makes since. The pride story line is one I remember having way more set up and depth in FMA then FMAB but because most of us already seen FMA it still was amazing. I could be tripping but that’s my thoughts.
Came here to comment the same. I think the original series has a much better start. FMAB basically just speedruns the story until it catches up to the point where both series branch off. Frustrating the boys don't mention it. I had my wife watch FMA up to ep28 and then we switched over to Brotherhood. Needless to say it hooked her and she loved it. When I showed her what FMAB to start the series, she really disliked it. I wish Garnt would've started with the original series.
You not tripping at all , watching the original then brotherhood is always the right way to go , Liore gets better introduction than the way brotherhood set it up and the nina set up as well. Hell even the Barry the chopper was more of a threat in the original. That shit was emotional seeing Ed was about to take a life but slashed Al accidentally in fear. Brotherhood may be better than the original but it’s definitely lighter in tone than the original
honestly this is probably why i have so many issues with people who praise FMAB as being infinitely better than the original bc i genuinely didnt think they did the beginning as well as they did in og FMA.
1:41:55 "I don't even know what album I could even listen to and be like 'wow, I walked away feeling that was life changing or amazing', like I don't think there's anything that could do that." Listen to Everywhere at the End of Time. It's an album about the stages of dementia. It starts off like classical 1920s ballroom music, and slowly as you go further into the album, you're hearing multiple songs that simultaniously sound like everything and nothing at all. Like there's no melody. Everything is tangled and distorted. Absolute horror for several minutes at a time, until for just a split second, you hear a melody that played around the start of the album. You hear it long enough to recognize that it's familiar, but not long enough to reach out and understand it. You're only left with the feeling that it's familiar, but not knowing what it actually is. It's an empty, horrifying feeling. Many people that listen to it all in one sitting actually come out crying. It's an experience that is unforgettable. Honestly, it is in my opinion, the only album that can truely be considered "art". It's my favourite album and I revisit it frequently, but I don't advise you listen to it if you struggle with mental health, however, and yes, I'm deadly serious about that.
solid choice in music tho personal for me i would love if there is even a slight chance of connor or even Joey to check out the Post-rock shoegaze piece that is A lonely Sinner Samlrc, it was recently releassed this year and wow its one of the most unique and transformative music experience i ever have
I'm actually confused on this one. I heard that it was controversial but don't know why. Isn't it client's responsibility to seek and choose the right one? Or do they not provide any refunds and stuff like that?
@@Evan_1241. Extremely predatory payment practices (aka charge for months at once with no refund, ignore people trying to cancel, free trial immediately goes into month+ long subscription) 2. Misdirecting advertisement (site meant for therapy and activity promotes themselves as having therapists available 24/7 but they don't check to make sure someone is a therapist or even attends their scheduled meeting) 3. They do literally nothing for mental help or moderation, it's basically all ran by unmoderated random people It is the definition of a scam
@Evan_124 also they match you with people and if I'm paying an exorbitant sum for them to assign me a therapist, I shouldn't have to do background checks to make sure that persons actually a therapist or will even show up to the appointment. Edit: is my first comment just not showing up for me, or did trash taste actually delete it for exposing the scam ad.
@@Evan_124 Selling consumer information (A violation of HIPAA) and then lying about it, getting into a lawsuit and having to pay fines makes them irredeemable in my eyes.
the boys need to stop taking any sponsor but also idk how much their finances would tank since they need to put a good chunk of income into the channel to keep it going and god is inflation shitting on everyone that's not hella rich
@@bluelfsuma The company is very sketchy but they are videos that explain it better than I can. The Trash Taste boys are good people and I don't want to see them get into controversy because of this.
@@multiverseguy1239 I've heard other RUclipsrs, in the past, say that BetterHelp started doing better. But I have no idea if that statement held up or not. Hopefully, the worst that'll happen is that the boys'll get memed on for taking money from a sketchy company.
@@vestal3430In fairness I think EVERYONE talked badly about BetterHelp a few years ago. I’m not sure the history of the BetterHelp situation but my perception of it is they did some bad shit back a few years ago and everyone was on their asses and saying BetterHelp was bad and then the controversy kinda died or fizzled out and nobody was taking a BetterHelp sponsorship. Then maybe a year or so ago BetterHelp was back sponsoring videos. And I feel like the general sentiment was “Oh BetterHelp is back? I remember they had that big controversy a while back 🤷♂️ Guess they must have resolved whatever the issue was.” And then that carried on for a while. And it’s only in the past few months where people have been talking shit about BetterHelp again and I’m not sure if it’s for the same reason as the original controversy back in the day or if it’s a new issue or what the deal is. All I know is I’m not supposed to like BetterHelp.
Joey about Arcane: "I would like to think it gets better after episode 1." YES IT DOES AAAARG IT'S SO FRUSTRATING, episode 1 is the definition of "pretty but mid" because it feels like it's checking off boxes for cutesy coming-of-age stories, and while ep 2 is a bit spicier, it isn't until episode 3 that it says "haha okay joke's over, here's what the show is REALLY about" and demolishes your expectations like an abandoned dockside warehouse full of orphans EDIT: I'd go so far as to say that watching Arcane up to ep 3 is _even more important_ than watching FMAB up to ep 4... though FMAB ep 1 is worse than Arcane ep 1
I agree completely but I also feel like it's reasonable to expect that 1 episode should do a good job encapsulating what you're going to get. Certainly Arcane doesn't really hit it's stride till the latter half of episode 2 into 3 and the they don't quite nail the art style until 3 with the first two feeling more like Pixar and the 3 on feeling like it's own sort of moving oil painting thing that the first 2 don't quite get to. It was clearly an evolving project. That said its totally valid do think that a show isn't worth your time if it can't hook you right from episode 1, I must say I've never quite understood the whole 3 episode rule or whatever.
@@MNewtonI disagree like a lot of shows need to spend a bunch of time to establish the norm so future impacts matter more so I think three episodes is better to give you a picture of what the show is going for.
@@Dracon7601 You can still do all the things you're talking about and have an immediately engaging first episode though, they are not mutually exclusive.
Fear & Hunger is such a cool fucking game. Original F&H streams of Connor were one of the most entertaining streams ever, and hearing Garnt & Joey's first impressions of the game made me really want to rewatch those streams. I guess it's finally time to subscribe to the Patreon to watch Joey and Garnt's first experience as well...
1:55:57 Kinda. Brotherhood was clearly made with the expectation that the person watching had seen the original adaptation since it doesn't go as in-depth as they could have. This is why I always recommend watching the first adaptation first.
Exactly. I'm always surprised that people recomment skipping the original and going straight for Brotherhood. Without watching the original first, I'm fairly certain I would drop the Brotherhood before getting to all the good parts, because the beginning was so chaotic and not a good introduction of the characters and the story
I never watched the "original" and went straight to Brotherhood. I never have any problem following it at all. After that I went ahead and read the whole manga and I don't really remember it missing anything
To defend FMAB, it’s “supposed” to feel like you know everyone as it aired not too long after FMA and after the manga ends. I don’t think they planned/expected for the show to last this long after the anime aired.
Manga still went on as it aired, and finished two weeks before the anime did. The promise was that the anime would adapt the entire manga, no filler, especially because the manga was already in its final stages of the story.
@@polkadi Good lord, imagine if a delay happened from the anime or manga. A two-weeks apart ongoing source material & adaptation gives me anxiety thinking about it.
@@allendalenapo3430 I mean, the manga was a monthly series, so the anime had to catch up to years of material first. And personally speaking, if they adapted the start of the series properly instead of piggybacking off the original TV adaptation, they would have had more leniency. At least there was only one filler episode (the first episode, sort of) and a story recap, and that's it. According to Studio Bones, Hiromu Arakawa kept them in touch with where the story was going so they could finish the series properly, but yeah, they were ALWAYS going to cut it close. For an anime adaptation, that's insane. You'll likely never hear of a case like this again, for good reason.
@@allendalenapo3430there basically was. Brotherhood was originally only slated to be 51 episodes like 03, however during production it became clear that Arakawa was going to need more time to finish so they had to rework their plans to pace it for adding 13 more episodes (technically 12 more episodes and the director had to beg for 1 more for the epilogue later)
@@haosmagnaingram6992I am down to do what Netflix is doing with One Piece and let clover or wit studio do a The one piece to be the ultimate definite best version FMA the anime in which they finally planning everything with full knowledge of what they are about to animate without any changes of plans mid production
The idea of Arcane was to lure you into false expectations for the show being a generic "good vs evil" stereotypical story and then in episode 3 and onwards, subvert those expectations with a much more emotional and ethically-challenging storyline. Joey has to watch to ATLEAST episode 3 to really get the idea of the show.
@@Cae17617 No, no you can't. Sometimes, but not always. The show is like 9 episodes long and you can't be bothered to watch up until the part where everyone says it gets much better. It started off strong, and slowly built to episode 3 and 4.
The thing about Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood is that it’s not meant to be an intro into FMA. That’s why the first episode is a bad first episode because the people making Brotherhood expected its viewers to have already read the manga or watched 2003 anime adaptation. That’s why the beginning is so rushed and also why the first chapter doesn’t actually get adapted until episode 3.
Honestly I'd recommend the first 25 episodes of FMA 2003 even above the manga. The beginning being so solid in the original anime is the reason why it became so legendary among Western fans of anime. And although the rest of the story has some hiccups, I believe watching all of it does add to your enjoyment of Brotherhood. The 2003 version sets expectations for the outcome of the story, and the way Brotherhood breaks them functions as a powerful plot twist in its own right, similarly to how some well-written VNs like Fate/Stay Night use the route system to subvert expectations. Especially that one scene right after the diverging point is made much more epic by this mechanism---because of my experience with 2003, that scene completely blew my mind, and to this day it remains one of the most memorable scenes I've seen in any anime.
The Balrog design is so sick. It's covered in shadow and fire, the sounds it makes are not the roar of an animal - It's literally the sound of fire coming from its maw.
You might want to look at Cinema Therapy's community note regarding betterhelp. They take what they take on as a sponsor very serious and created a several pages long reddit thread detailing what the issues with service were, why they stopped advertising them but revisited their decision after all issues were addressed by betterhelp in an actionable manner.
@@ytann Betterhelp was investigated by the FDA last year. The common story was that unprofessional or even unlicensed people were conducting therapy. As well as selling patient's data. But according to Cinema Theraoy, a channel with usually great integrity and care, betterhelp did have issues that they took care of in 2024. Because as people on the internet do, they hear a headline and parrot whatever they hear. So, people here might still remember the issues from 2023. But they might want to check the community post of Cinema Therapy where they go into multiple pages deep explanation why they still think betterhelp is a meritous system. So if you want to know what's going on head to there or their subreddit and you find an explanation with dozens of receipts.
@@ytannThey are a service that is basically a scam. They got busted a few years back and everyone disavowed them, but they are weaseling their way back into social media pretending to have changed when they have not at all. 1. They have violated HIPPA by selling customer medical information to data brokers. 2. You don’t have to be a licensed therapist to work for them and provide therapy to their customers. 3. They themselves say in the fine print that they are not a replacement for in-person therapy and shouldn’t be treated as such, running directly counter to the whole point of their brand as a online substitute for in-person therapy. They basically admit that their product is a pointless money pit for those deceived.
As a otome visual novel girlie, that’s sinking 30 hours at least to play all the different routes and getting the different endings. 4 and 7 hours sounds like a breeze to me LMAO
So true. Saya no Uta was perfect for being a VN no more than 5 hours but when the boys were saying all VNs would be better if they were short was a L take. I like VNs that take awhile to finish especially when you are trying to 100% it by going through all the routes and getting all the endings
I mean, Arcane isn't really hooking you in from episode one, it's when the first batch (the three first episodes) that Arcane hooks people in. It's also how it was intended, when they released three episodes each batch
I never related to anyone in the pod more than Garnt was during the DomeKano segment. Seeing their reactions was SO FUN. But Garnt wasn't capping, the writing really gets so good near the midpoint to almost end
Them talking Saya no Uta really made me realise that they should ... They really should be playing The house in Fata Morgana. That's the peak... I think they should do an episode where they watch audience pick stuff and we could pick The House in Fata Morgana. I don't think Visual novels can get any better than that. It has no Visual novel issues. No fluff, very intriguing stories ( yes stories) and music better than 99.9% of media out there Edit: WTF they are actually gonna do it. Fata morgana fans... rise up. Patreons, support us. We making them play the first chapter at the very least
2:01:14 plenty of people do this in real life. many of my friends didn't have childhoods for this exact reason or reasons similar. kids lock in all the time when they're forced to provide for or even raise their siblings
I think Garnt would get more enjoyment out of watching both FMA 2003 + Brotherhood, instead of only Brotherhood in isolation. Not just because the beginning (the first ~25 eps) is much more solid in the former, but because the foundation created by 2003 makes Brotherhood feel more epic, via contrast. To avoid spoiling anything, particularly the first major diverging point in Brotherhood is made several times more awe-inspiring when you (only) know the 2003 side of the story. The two series feel very much like well-written VN routes in how they play out. FMA 2003 spends enormous effort to get the viewer invested in the beginning, while Brotherhood skims through it, as if expecting the viewer to already know how it plays out. FMA 2003 sets grim expectations for the outcome of the story, paving the way for Brotherhood to break through them. The juxtaposition makes their relative strengths shine. You can very well enjoy them in isolation, but I think there's much more to be gained from watching them as a set.
One of my proudest moments in recent memory is getting my brothers friend to read domestic girlfriend and in true manga fashion he finished 70 chapters in a manner of days
@@the_shadow_clasher the problem is when arcane premiered the first 3 episodes came out at the same time. We get a full grasp of what is to come after watching all 3 episodes hence why joey wasn't hooked after one.
I was in the perfect age when LOTR released, I started to be interested in films and I also read the books, so my hype level was already at 100 when I first heard about the The Fellowship. And I was still young enough to be deeply amazed and influenced by a movie - a feeling that is harder to replicate as I grow older. So long story short, It was one of the best times in cinema I had in my entire life. The sound blaring as the trolls smashed the door in Moria, the shrieking of the Nazgul, the music. I will never forget that.
![Twenty One Pilots - “The Line” (from Arcane Season 2) [Official Music Video]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/E2Rj2gQAyPA/mqdefault.jpg)
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Cringe betterhelp sponsorship.
Stop taking their sponsorship.
They're shady company with multiple class action lawsuits.
No way you guys didn't know what they are.
@@thetruth3068sponsorblock goes hard
Imagine having Patreon and still accepting betterhelp sponsorship.
@@thetruth3068youtubers are just relatable salespeople
@@MuxerothSpread the gospel
3 hour long episode goes hard
Must be making you pretty bricked up
@@drinks-your-water yes
Wish they could do more of these especially the concept of watching/playing stuff they won't do normally
On god
Crazy how this episode is almost 3 hours and the official podcast episode is less than an hour
I never thought I would see the day when Connor read Domestic Girlfriend, Joey finally start watching Arcane, & especially Garnt finally start watching FMAB
Yes we're entering the uncharted timeline 🤣
The fabric of the universe is unraveling
I started clapping!!!
We live in the Dark Universe aware
The world is ending
garnt finding something out about fear and hunger that connor didn't know by reading is so funny and SO them lmao
the way he maniacally laughed at connor and joey being in disbelief about domestic girlfriend 😭😂
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But I thought Connor read in Fear and hunger
@@turjamajumder7053all the books are rng based so he never came across it
@@turjamajumder7053 on his very first playthrough he skimmed through the books because by reading in the the game it drains your energy
The weirdest part about Domestic Girlfriend is that... Garnt was telling the truth. The latter half of Domestic Girlfriend had really good character writing, to the point where I was like "wait, Domestic Girlfriend is good now?"
Then the last 10-20 chapters happened and I went "yeah, it's Domestic Girlfriend, this was the only right way to end this colossal car crash"
I might have to check it out...
@@marcorodriguez8792 Natsuo's character arc with being an author in college is absolutely brilliant. One of my favorite character developments I've ever read. Everything else is meh.
@@dreambiscuits that's definitely not the best character development ever. Because I watch a good chunk of good written romance manga either yuri or normal manga. This type of thing of exploring a character's journey to achieve what he or she wants from their life is very common. This is a troupe I would say. Domestic girlfriend is fine but I see a lot of manga with even better development.
@@HerMi.T I don't care what you think
@@dreambiscuits based
Why is Garnt so good at explaining stuff in such a way that makes me have to try them
Because Garnt pays attention to the shit he watched unlike the other two
Does take him forever to get sentences out with "umms" and pauses or annoyingly repeating words numerous times - I prefer Joey's takes in general too
@@chrishouseley6093 might wanna get checked out for ADHD Brainrot
I cannot take him seriously, he can try to convince that Hitler was a good guy and people who watches him will believe him
Ikr. Made me download LOTR. I'm gonna watch it after I finish the episode
Connor is so visibly happy and giddy that the boys played his favorite game, makes me happy, makes me smile
I enjoyed Fear and Hunger 2 way more than 1.
One day you’ll Mature and find yourself
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Man see friend. Friend happy. Man also happy.
@@Hexra_these people are not your friends lol
Garnt finally watching FMA is a historical moment for the anime community.
Only the first four episodes tho lmao
@@dragonquestfan2002 Better than nothing at this point
I just got my bf who isn’t an anime fan to watch it with me (good gateway anime) and we literally finished it last night, he loved it
@@laytonpro8655 Wouldn't call Full Metal Alchemist a good gateway anime cause it does have quite a slow start but yeah glad he likes it. Death Note and AOT are better for newbies
Ironically he watched the part of the story where brotherhood is worse than the og one
Joey hit the spot saying the "YOUUUU SHALL NOOOT...PAAAAAAAAASSS" line so hard
They gave a lot of hearts to comments in this episode’s comment section, what happened? They really checked comments about this episode lol
Making Joey watch the first episode of Arcane when it's meant to be watched 3 episodes by 3 is a crime
see i didn't even know that, and fortunately I had the time when i watched it. i see myself having the same opinion as Joey if i also didn't have much time
that would’ve been a little over 2 hours tho everybody else only did an hour per
Makes you wonder why they divide it into episodes that you aren't supposed to stop at in the first place
@@piratesinspace4989 should've been named Episodes 1.1, 1.2, and 1.3 if that were the case
@@piratesinspace4989 Because Netflix
I love how happy Connor sounds when talking about F&H, he sounds so excited
i love the forcing each other to do stuff premise, such an enjoyable thing to watch. regardless of their feel, you have one person keenly invested in it
Hopefully when they let the Patreons choose next time they don’t solely choose the most depraved/degenerate stuff….
@@Mellow_Yellow13 and to give a bit more time per series/game etc. 1 hour for some games or 1 episode for a series seems so short
I'm a bit iffy. The 1 hour was somewhat of a problem already in this ep, though I understand why they didn't do more. Largely this was more like a "react" or "first impressions". This really works better with something shorter (Goodby Eri) or one where the beginning has wild content (Fear and Hunger). I think being forced to consume content colors people's perception as well. I mostly liked this episode, but maybe slightly more niche, shorter stuff? Liked this better than their 5x5 eps.
They should force Joey to watch MCU Phase 1.
Garnt has finally fulfilled the prophecy... This truly has been a Full Metal Alchemist
that's just straight 🧢🧢
it's fair if FMAB isn't for you
BUT it in noway is *"Mid"*
@shadowreacts5618I saw many good Animes before watching Brotherhood and it still went hard for me personally.
@shadowreacts5618 Nice bait, it was like the 100th show I watched and still one of my top 10. Saying something is mid and your reasoning being YOU couldnt get invested without saying anything else is laughable
@shadowreacts5618don’t know what more you can want from a show, good ost, plot twists, world building, likeable characters, good villain, a satisfying ending, interesting power system, and good animation. What more can you want ?
@shadowreacts5618what did you stop at ?
They should've told Joey to watch the first 3 episodes of Arcane, because for anyone who hasn't seen it, episodes 1 & 2 are mainly "Here's this world, characters, and gorgeous animation" but episode 3 is the real "HOLY SHIT!" moment that hooks ANYONE who watches the show. And after that happens, the story really gets darker, with both the dialogue and animation getting better and better.
Imo saying you gave arcane a shot by watching 1 episode is equivalent to saying you watched 1/3rd of breaking bads 1st episode
Am I right or am I right
I stopped after the third episode, felt the story was predictable and saw no reason to continue. What was the holy shit moment? That they went separate ways?
@@martin162asd Did you suffered brain damage or something? (Legit worry) What the fuck are you talking about? Kids died, everyone developed trauma, literally everything about the story got better and way darker as it progressed. And you didn't even watched the rest, How the fuck you call something predictable wehn you only watched THE FUCKING SET UP!?
@@martin162asd Do you suffer brain damage? How can you call something predictable when you didn't even watched the pay-off, you watched the set up!
Everything got darker, and the story only gets better and better. Also stop lying, you didn't blindly watched episode one and thought "Oh, this character will die in episode 3 in this specific way" 🤓 You know that never happened.
@@martin162asd I mean I think its fine people that got to episode 3 and didint wanna continue its just not for you, but u gotta be trolling with the wondering what thw moment was or summing it up to "they went separate ways" that's wild hahahaha
Easily one of the best Trash Taste episode. Personally and objectively. The Fear and Hunger segment alone I CANT BELIEVE THEY FINALLY PLAYED IT
Man, this was a pretty historical episode of Trash Taste, and so entertaining to listen. I genuinely want them to continue hate-reading Domestic Girlfriend and sharing their thoughts.
only watching 1 episode of arcane as an introduction to it is actually criminal, especially when the story is broken up into 3 episode blocks
yeah
Yeah I'm pretty disappointed at Joey for that😭atleast watch the first 3 episodes
@@abura2980 its 1 hour rule
Yea like I would have rather they only did 3 things and made the boys consume 2 hours of content .
Exactly like isn't 3 episode is basic for any new interesting story
Honestly it's kinda sad that everyone remembers "YOU SHALL NOT PASS" but not the words that he spoke before that, cause the whole is speech is just fire...
THE DARK FIRE WILL NOT AVAIL YOU, FLAME OF UDUN!
tbf, since most people haven’t read the silmarillion, they wouldn’t know the context behind gandalf’s words. so i think most ppl think it’s a spell or just plain gibberish. but i agree, gandalf revealing his true identity to the balrog is the best part.
@@some1donkus In the cinematic release there are very few direct hints at the grand story of the world. The first hint is that it's the third age, but also the whole balrog interaction directly referencing an even higher power sending him back with intent.
@@some1donkus you definitely do not need to have read silmarillion to memorize the lines lol and there's no way in hell that everyone who has memorized the lines all have read the silmarillion
@@some1donkus yeah it's probably because most people don't know about the whole history of the world, and the reason I said it's sad it's cause Gandalf actually using his maiar powers against Durin's Bane hits way more if you know what that means for him
to be fair the line is just catchy and easy to remember
Not an hour in and this is one of the best episodes, It's so much fun when people go out and do stuff that they swear they don't want to, great to form better connections with each other and with the audience too. Love it keep on Boys!
I mean this with my whole heart, arcane is not the type of show where the first episode will give you a full idea of how incredible it is. I’d say the first three or four are NECESSARY and absolutely worth it.
Goddamn 3 hours? We're eating good today
Better help is an actual scam, please educate yourself on sponsors before taking their money, especially if they provide a fundamentally broken product surrounded by lies
Yes, please don’t use Better Help. It’s been proven to be a scam that actually puts patients in danger and steals data from its users
Did everyone forget about them from years ago? I'm so confused by their comeback. And it's not just Trash Taste, they have Tom Brady. So confusing.
@@bigevilshark1958It’s probably a thing of “Oh it’s been years, they probably have fixed their shit if they are back to offering sponsors” and not looking into it any further
@@bigevilshark1958 they've been all over the place since like late 2023, it is weird how everyone just forgor, maybe they pay good money
@bigevilshark1958 from what I've heard, they haven't improved at all since, either. Better help just offers a shit ton of sponsor money. I hate seeing my favorite creators advertise them.
This feels like an endgame of trash taste videos, I'm excited for culmination of each & everyone's character arcs, bring in the popcorn boys!
Next arc is gunna go hard
@@CermentStorm62 please don’t spoil it for us anime only ppl
Garnt loves the relationship drama bc his relationship is so chill 😂😂😂
Important context for Arcane is that it was released three episodes at a time so season one is essentially divided into three parts, episodes 1-3, 4-6 and 7-9.
Not the betterhelp ad dawg.
Sad part is they've been in the game long enough, they 1000% are aware of what the company is really about, I mean I swear I remember Joey talking about it back in the day the 1st time they got exposed
Sigh, and i ain't saying this as some furious parasocial stan that's feels betrayed I'm still going to watch, I'm simply disappointed
It is pretty disappointing because therapy is such a vulnerable thing. I do believe that content creators have a moral responsibility to check the products/services they promote especially when it pertains to a vulnerable group of people and when most people on the internet are aware that the service is shitty. If not, that’s their choice but then people have every right to call them out on it.
Didn't all of their management get fired and it was all changed up because of the controversy? It's been years from that too
Yeah i wasn't feeling that one
I think they might be locked in a contract its not that they want to keep the Sponsership but because they are contractly obligated to do so
nobody wants to hurt their own image on such a scale, so i guess they have to wait until the contract is finished.
Came for the Arcane thumbnail and stayed for Fear & Hunger
It's FMA now
I looked up the guard because I thought they were being unnecessary with the BIG censoring pinecone but holy crap…the guard is the embodiment of “he’s got a 3rd leg” joke.
@@nickmilo932domestic gf now
@@Mellow_Yellow13 same situation with me. My brain completely refused to accept what it was for a solid 2 minutes, it's so *huge*
Pains me that Joey watched the first and says "So basically it's alright, story is kinda mid" 😅
Garnt's speedo is the reason why the boys had to censor some swear words😂
No it's a RUclips thing, can't have swear words the first few minutes of the video
Not the reason but still just as much a technical foul. It made me do extra reps on the leg curl machine out of fear that that could be my future
Basically Joey saying. "It was animated beautifully, and the world seemed like one that i really enjoyed in ff7, but someone told me I should watch it, so i'm not going to, irregardless of whether I enjoyed it or not." 😅😂
You guys should really reconsider that betterhelp sponsorship
Patreon here. This is genuinely a great episode idea, and very entertaining. The Fear and Hunger talk was entrancing. And THREE HOURS!
EDIT: TO BE FAIR, Arcane requires the first three eps (the first arc) to get the full impact, similar to how it was released.
After basically 2 years of waiting for Joey to watch arcane, and hearing he gave it 1 episode and didint care much for it actually broke my heart, he is never going to watch it now
@@justhaku9240 Agreed. it's literally the same as watching the first third of a movie or reading the first act of a book. Bro got all the build-up without any sort of payoff
@@yaboiaxl1216 I said this in another reply, but I'll say it again, it's quite literally the equivalent of watching 1/3rd of breaking bads 1st episode
@@yaboiaxl1216 Sure but at the same time the first time I watched arcane ep 1 I was hyped af. I loved ep 1 the entire vibe and the setting just went so hard and if you didn't really like that I'm not sure you're going to enjoy the show.
I can't believe he only spent like 5 minutes on it and another 5 explaining visuals. Just, wow. It really sucks to think he may never finish the series just because one episode had a lot of things to do and did insanely well at containing a lot of moving pieces and introducing a lot of concepts. Just not enough to hook like BB managed to.
Unfortunately for the Fullmetal affect garnts describing , they assume everyone who’s watching brotherhood had watched the original 2003 series.
Exactly correct. It had just finished airing a few years before. If you were interested in Brotherhood, you probably *had* just watched the original somewhat recently. So in the first season, they add an anime original first episode which is like a 20-min long movie, and mostly just contains stuff that won't make sense until like 30 episodes down the line. Then they rush through the material from the manga that the original show covered, playing up the humor, and the pacing is pretty uneven as a result. It really hits its stride in the 2nd season, and doesn't ever let up.
I am actually in the camp that still thinks that FMA 2003 is a better story than Brotherhood. The key scenes with better build up of Al and Ed's failed resurrection/transmutation of their mum, Hughes' death, Nina's chimera incident, Envy's battle with Ed, Father's impact to the story all has more emotional weight to me than Brotherhood. Also, I prefer the darker ending that connects to Conquerer of Shambala and it would have been more talked about as an opening ending compared to Brotherhood's meek and flowery ending.
I watched FMA first as well and was happy I did when I started watching Brotherhood. I couldn't imagine myself getting into the story otherwise. It was so sped up that it didn't make a lot of sense.
@@musicaholicsoul7663 based , basically you eat good with FMA and then get the desert with is FMAB. Cant have one without the other
@superdrifter-1773 We really need a fan edit that splices the vest part of the two series.
betterhelp again? come on
I really loved Connor's interpretation of Goodbye Eri, it really did seem like the story touched him
Should probably drop Better Help as a sponsor. The company sells patients information and the therapists they hire don’t go through a thorough background check.
i'm surprised you guys accepted another better help sponsor considering all the backlash it's been getting
They might be under contract atleast id like to think that lol
That was like 5 years ago lol
They dont care about you. They only care about that sponsorship money
@@rem5215 Did they even get any better in those 5 years? Somehow I doubt as there were videos about 'em being the same crap not too long ago.
@@Selmeister15 what I'm not sponsored by them 😂😂😂
Joey watching Arcane and Gigguk watching FMAB is actually insane. Fastest I've ever clicked a video
Knowing Joey he will probably say it is mid because it is popular and then reference some shitty obscure show he thinks is a better show
@@danielelder6361probably not
@@danielelder6361 first mistake is only forcing him to watch one episode. Imagine having him watch a build-up episode and expecting him to like it as much as people who watched all first 3 episodes when the show aired.
I won't blame him if he doesn't like it. Not everyone is gonna enjoy a show that many like/love
@@a_waff1es_0pinion76 he said the first episode was ok (and most likely won't finish the season), but constantly complains about anime having strong ep 1 with the rest being weak. So yea, I think he will just say it's mid just based of ep 1
This is actually such an amazing idea for the podcast. It keeps the soul of the series with hearing based or trash takes while introducing a new discussion concept this late in the game, with this case being introducing each other to new media to then gush or rant over. Not to mention stirring up the community with the fulfilled prophecies. Keep up the great work, boys!
You should check out the versuswolves podcast. It's supereyepatchwolf and woolieVs's podcast and the entire premise of it is exactly what this episode of trash taste is. Wouldn't be surprised if that's where they got the idea from.
They said Vander is not a playable character? They will have their minds blown in season 2 of arcane
I was looking for this comment
so soothing to listen to these 3 with or without an occasional guest, keeps me alive
Let three hour episodes be the new normal please. I need more long form content. I normally blow through this podcast in one sitting and I'd like it to last longer, please.
This is the one piece of TT episodes, this is the everything everywhere all at once of TT episodes, this is the ultimate episode
*Real early birds remember seeing Fullmetal Alchemist as the thumbnail*
I was here when domestic girlfriend was the thumbnail i was abit late
@@chomps1 I saw the FMA one, didn't see Domestic Girlfriend one
It's called A/B testing. You release 2 different thumbnails, and sometimes 2 different titles, then watch the numbers immediately after posting to see if one does substantially better than the other, then lean into the one (or ones) that get the most/fastest clicks.
think they did 3 thumbnails for this one that cycle periodically using a youtube feature
This is one of the best ideas for an episode in a long time. I’d be down if they did this like once a month
This style of episode needs to happen like every 5th or 10th episode! Can’t get enough of this! 🔥🔥🔥
Did not expect Trash Taste to jump on the Betterhelp sponsorship 🙃
The Domestic Girlfriend segment had my crying out laughing cuz I also like it as much as Garnt and I was also getting flashbacks of the events happening
So true. Also, I never thought they would bring up School Days as a comparison. I might want to check it out...
@@marcorodriguez8792 plz dont lol. Im traumatized from School days
Referring to Garnt watching FMAB: when he said, it kind of felt like they expected him to already know some characters, I think this is something that doesn’t get talked about enough when FMAB came out. It did feel like they already assumed you watched the original Anime bc stuff happens so fast. I think it’s still the better series BUT It’s only as good as it is if you watched FMA first, if that makes since. The pride story line is one I remember having way more set up and depth in FMA then FMAB but because most of us already seen FMA it still was amazing. I could be tripping but that’s my thoughts.
Came here to comment the same. I think the original series has a much better start. FMAB basically just speedruns the story until it catches up to the point where both series branch off. Frustrating the boys don't mention it. I had my wife watch FMA up to ep28 and then we switched over to Brotherhood. Needless to say it hooked her and she loved it. When I showed her what FMAB to start the series, she really disliked it. I wish Garnt would've started with the original series.
You are tripping i watch brotherhood first and didnt think that
No one talks about this but Father is one of the worst antagonists I have seen
You not tripping at all , watching the original then brotherhood is always the right way to go , Liore gets better introduction than the way brotherhood set it up and the nina set up as well. Hell even the Barry the chopper was more of a threat in the original. That shit was emotional seeing Ed was about to take a life but slashed Al accidentally in fear. Brotherhood may be better than the original but it’s definitely lighter in tone than the original
honestly this is probably why i have so many issues with people who praise FMAB as being infinitely better than the original bc i genuinely didnt think they did the beginning as well as they did in og FMA.
1:41:55 "I don't even know what album I could even listen to and be like 'wow, I walked away feeling that was life changing or amazing', like I don't think there's anything that could do that."
Listen to Everywhere at the End of Time. It's an album about the stages of dementia. It starts off like classical 1920s ballroom music, and slowly as you go further into the album, you're hearing multiple songs that simultaniously sound like everything and nothing at all. Like there's no melody. Everything is tangled and distorted. Absolute horror for several minutes at a time, until for just a split second, you hear a melody that played around the start of the album. You hear it long enough to recognize that it's familiar, but not long enough to reach out and understand it. You're only left with the feeling that it's familiar, but not knowing what it actually is. It's an empty, horrifying feeling. Many people that listen to it all in one sitting actually come out crying. It's an experience that is unforgettable. Honestly, it is in my opinion, the only album that can truely be considered "art". It's my favourite album and I revisit it frequently, but I don't advise you listen to it if you struggle with mental health, however, and yes, I'm deadly serious about that.
solid choice in music tho personal for me i would love if there is even a slight chance of connor or even Joey to check out the Post-rock shoegaze piece that is A lonely Sinner Samlrc, it was recently releassed this year and wow its one of the most unique and transformative music experience i ever have
As an animator, Arcane's story is aight but the god tier animation is what really drew me in and excited for the next episode!
Ew, a better help add? The therapy service that doesn't check or require if therapists to be actual license therapists? I'll pass
I'm actually confused on this one. I heard that it was controversial but don't know why. Isn't it client's responsibility to seek and choose the right one? Or do they not provide any refunds and stuff like that?
@@Evan_1241. Extremely predatory payment practices (aka charge for months at once with no refund, ignore people trying to cancel, free trial immediately goes into month+ long subscription)
2. Misdirecting advertisement (site meant for therapy and activity promotes themselves as having therapists available 24/7 but they don't check to make sure someone is a therapist or even attends their scheduled meeting)
3. They do literally nothing for mental help or moderation, it's basically all ran by unmoderated random people
It is the definition of a scam
@Evan_124 also they match you with people and if I'm paying an exorbitant sum for them to assign me a therapist, I shouldn't have to do background checks to make sure that persons actually a therapist or will even show up to the appointment.
Edit: is my first comment just not showing up for me, or did trash taste actually delete it for exposing the scam ad.
@@Evan_124 Selling consumer information (A violation of HIPAA) and then lying about it, getting into a lawsuit and having to pay fines makes them irredeemable in my eyes.
We all could use some better help if you know what I mean
Oh god BetterHelp sponsor.
I heard they are good now
@@ricko3363 Just need to scam people a few times and suddenly we are forgiven?
The timing is funny though
@@ricko3363 no they still kinda suck from what I'm aware of just got better at hiding it I suppose
the boys need to stop taking any sponsor but also idk how much their finances would tank since they need to put a good chunk of income into the channel to keep it going and god is inflation shitting on everyone that's not hella rich
I know you guys have to keep the lights on but the betterhelp sponsorship broke my heart.
Why? Because the content of the ad was sad, or because the company has been sketchy at least once?
@@bluelfsuma The company is very sketchy but they are videos that explain it better than I can. The Trash Taste boys are good people and I don't want to see them get into controversy because of this.
@@multiverseguy1239 I've heard other RUclipsrs, in the past, say that BetterHelp started doing better. But I have no idea if that statement held up or not. Hopefully, the worst that'll happen is that the boys'll get memed on for taking money from a sketchy company.
Specially bc they talked badly of betterhelp in an episode already (maybe like 2 years ago), so I don’t understand why
@@vestal3430In fairness I think EVERYONE talked badly about BetterHelp a few years ago.
I’m not sure the history of the BetterHelp situation but my perception of it is they did some bad shit back a few years ago and everyone was on their asses and saying BetterHelp was bad and then the controversy kinda died or fizzled out and nobody was taking a BetterHelp sponsorship.
Then maybe a year or so ago BetterHelp was back sponsoring videos. And I feel like the general sentiment was “Oh BetterHelp is back? I remember they had that big controversy a while back 🤷♂️ Guess they must have resolved whatever the issue was.” And then that carried on for a while.
And it’s only in the past few months where people have been talking shit about BetterHelp again and I’m not sure if it’s for the same reason as the original controversy back in the day or if it’s a new issue or what the deal is. All I know is I’m not supposed to like BetterHelp.
It’s unbelievably entertaining to see how they discuss domestic girlfriend, thank you Garnt
Joey about Arcane: "I would like to think it gets better after episode 1."
YES IT DOES AAAARG IT'S SO FRUSTRATING, episode 1 is the definition of "pretty but mid" because it feels like it's checking off boxes for cutesy coming-of-age stories, and while ep 2 is a bit spicier, it isn't until episode 3 that it says "haha okay joke's over, here's what the show is REALLY about" and demolishes your expectations like an abandoned dockside warehouse full of orphans
EDIT: I'd go so far as to say that watching Arcane up to ep 3 is _even more important_ than watching FMAB up to ep 4... though FMAB ep 1 is worse than Arcane ep 1
episode two goes NUTS!!!
I agree completely but I also feel like it's reasonable to expect that 1 episode should do a good job encapsulating what you're going to get. Certainly Arcane doesn't really hit it's stride till the latter half of episode 2 into 3 and the they don't quite nail the art style until 3 with the first two feeling more like Pixar and the 3 on feeling like it's own sort of moving oil painting thing that the first 2 don't quite get to. It was clearly an evolving project. That said its totally valid do think that a show isn't worth your time if it can't hook you right from episode 1, I must say I've never quite understood the whole 3 episode rule or whatever.
Arcane episodes are an hour long. So probably why. Grant spent 1 hour 2 watching 4 episodes of fma. That is if he didn't watch it at 2x speed 😂
@@MNewtonI disagree like a lot of shows need to spend a bunch of time to establish the norm so future impacts matter more so I think three episodes is better to give you a picture of what the show is going for.
@@Dracon7601 You can still do all the things you're talking about and have an immediately engaging first episode though, they are not mutually exclusive.
Fear & Hunger is such a cool fucking game. Original F&H streams of Connor were one of the most entertaining streams ever, and hearing Garnt & Joey's first impressions of the game made me really want to rewatch those streams. I guess it's finally time to subscribe to the Patreon to watch Joey and Garnt's first experience as well...
1:55:57 Kinda. Brotherhood was clearly made with the expectation that the person watching had seen the original adaptation since it doesn't go as in-depth as they could have. This is why I always recommend watching the first adaptation first.
Exactly. I'm always surprised that people recomment skipping the original and going straight for Brotherhood. Without watching the original first, I'm fairly certain I would drop the Brotherhood before getting to all the good parts, because the beginning was so chaotic and not a good introduction of the characters and the story
I never watched the "original" and went straight to Brotherhood.
I never have any problem following it at all. After that I went ahead and read the whole manga and I don't really remember it missing anything
To defend FMAB, it’s “supposed” to feel like you know everyone as it aired not too long after FMA and after the manga ends. I don’t think they planned/expected for the show to last this long after the anime aired.
Manga still went on as it aired, and finished two weeks before the anime did. The promise was that the anime would adapt the entire manga, no filler, especially because the manga was already in its final stages of the story.
@@polkadi Good lord, imagine if a delay happened from the anime or manga. A two-weeks apart ongoing source material & adaptation gives me anxiety thinking about it.
@@allendalenapo3430 I mean, the manga was a monthly series, so the anime had to catch up to years of material first. And personally speaking, if they adapted the start of the series properly instead of piggybacking off the original TV adaptation, they would have had more leniency. At least there was only one filler episode (the first episode, sort of) and a story recap, and that's it.
According to Studio Bones, Hiromu Arakawa kept them in touch with where the story was going so they could finish the series properly, but yeah, they were ALWAYS going to cut it close. For an anime adaptation, that's insane. You'll likely never hear of a case like this again, for good reason.
@@allendalenapo3430there basically was. Brotherhood was originally only slated to be 51 episodes like 03, however during production it became clear that Arakawa was going to need more time to finish so they had to rework their plans to pace it for adding 13 more episodes (technically 12 more episodes and the director had to beg for 1 more for the epilogue later)
@@haosmagnaingram6992I am down to do what Netflix is doing with One Piece and let clover or wit studio do a The one piece to be the ultimate definite best version
FMA the anime in which they finally planning everything with full knowledge of what they are about to animate without any changes of plans mid production
I love this format. DO IT AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN
I will say that Garnt not watching FMA, has been a point of discussion since the Podtaku days. It's crazy that he actually started it.
The idea of Arcane was to lure you into false expectations for the show being a generic "good vs evil" stereotypical story and then in episode 3 and onwards, subvert those expectations with a much more emotional and ethically-challenging storyline. Joey has to watch to ATLEAST episode 3 to really get the idea of the show.
Absolutely not. If I have to slog through 3 episodes of something for it to get good then it's not good to begin with.
@@fatlace138 ehem one piece
@@fatlace138 I fart in your general direction.
@@Cae17617 No, no you can't. Sometimes, but not always. The show is like 9 episodes long and you can't be bothered to watch up until the part where everyone says it gets much better. It started off strong, and slowly built to episode 3 and 4.
@@fatlace138 Why is it a slog? Even Joey said good enough things about it, just that he wanted more context, which more episodes would give him.
The thing about Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood is that it’s not meant to be an intro into FMA. That’s why the first episode is a bad first episode because the people making Brotherhood expected its viewers to have already read the manga or watched 2003 anime adaptation. That’s why the beginning is so rushed and also why the first chapter doesn’t actually get adapted until episode 3.
Thats like Fate, you have to watch a bad show to be able to understand the good stuff that will follow
@@eltongoaustriaco8268 Fate is entirely different. You have to play the VN to ever get any level of quality content.
Honestly I'd recommend the first 25 episodes of FMA 2003 even above the manga. The beginning being so solid in the original anime is the reason why it became so legendary among Western fans of anime.
And although the rest of the story has some hiccups, I believe watching all of it does add to your enjoyment of Brotherhood. The 2003 version sets expectations for the outcome of the story, and the way Brotherhood breaks them functions as a powerful plot twist in its own right, similarly to how some well-written VNs like Fate/Stay Night use the route system to subvert expectations. Especially that one scene right after the diverging point is made much more epic by this mechanism---because of my experience with 2003, that scene completely blew my mind, and to this day it remains one of the most memorable scenes I've seen in any anime.
An almost 3 hour long episode? We eating good today
1:52:54 “He should though, it’d be hype.” Yes. Yes indeed… if you know, you know.
The Balrog design is so sick. It's covered in shadow and fire, the sounds it makes are not the roar of an animal - It's literally the sound of fire coming from its maw.
bro not betterhelp again 💀😭
You might want to look at Cinema Therapy's community note regarding betterhelp. They take what they take on as a sponsor very serious and created a several pages long reddit thread detailing what the issues with service were, why they stopped advertising them but revisited their decision after all issues were addressed by betterhelp in an actionable manner.
Made me stop watching the episode. 😢
Sorry I am unaware, lore dump please? Why is betterhelp spons bad? Are they a scam or something?
@@ytann Betterhelp was investigated by the FDA last year. The common story was that unprofessional or even unlicensed people were conducting therapy. As well as selling patient's data.
But according to Cinema Theraoy, a channel with usually great integrity and care, betterhelp did have issues that they took care of in 2024. Because as people on the internet do, they hear a headline and parrot whatever they hear.
So, people here might still remember the issues from 2023.
But they might want to check the community post of Cinema Therapy where they go into multiple pages deep explanation why they still think betterhelp is a meritous system.
So if you want to know what's going on head to there or their subreddit and you find an explanation with dozens of receipts.
@@ytannThey are a service that is basically a scam. They got busted a few years back and everyone disavowed them, but they are weaseling their way back into social media pretending to have changed when they have not at all.
1. They have violated HIPPA by selling customer medical information to data brokers.
2. You don’t have to be a licensed therapist to work for them and provide therapy to their customers.
3. They themselves say in the fine print that they are not a replacement for in-person therapy and shouldn’t be treated as such, running directly counter to the whole point of their brand as a online substitute for in-person therapy. They basically admit that their product is a pointless money pit for those deceived.
The reason why it started like that for FMA Brotherhood is because it assume you watch the previous FMA.
FYI : France is really good in 2d/3d animation, fortiche studio is the name of the studio making arcane
Samwise is such a bro that he swims after Frodo knowing he can’t swim
Loved the premise of this video! It really need a sequel/be a recurring thing on the channel!
01:55:27 Garnt watched FMA
THIS IS NOT A DRILL
As a otome visual novel girlie, that’s sinking 30 hours at least to play all the different routes and getting the different endings. 4 and 7 hours sounds like a breeze to me LMAO
So true. Saya no Uta was perfect for being a VN no more than 5 hours but when the boys were saying all VNs would be better if they were short was a L take. I like VNs that take awhile to finish especially when you are trying to 100% it by going through all the routes and getting all the endings
I myself am a visual novel enjoyer, I like both the long ones and short ones
Three hour episode is what I needed. Pool party was rained out, and I’m already prepped.
I mean, Arcane isn't really hooking you in from episode one, it's when the first batch (the three first episodes) that Arcane hooks people in. It's also how it was intended, when they released three episodes each batch
"First of all, swearing"
- Australian man
The real Full Metal Alchemists were the friends we made along the way
Watching the boys react to Domestic Girlfriend was definitely the highlight of this episode. 😂 They don't break at the gore, but the cliche does it.
3 hours podcast, boys are pleasing us at that point!
I never related to anyone in the pod more than Garnt was during the DomeKano segment. Seeing their reactions was SO FUN. But Garnt wasn't capping, the writing really gets so good near the midpoint to almost end
Why does this episode feel like a special 😂
Them talking Saya no Uta really made me realise that they should ... They really should be playing The house in Fata Morgana. That's the peak...
I think they should do an episode where they watch audience pick stuff and we could pick The House in Fata Morgana. I don't think Visual novels can get any better than that.
It has no Visual novel issues. No fluff, very intriguing stories ( yes stories) and music better than 99.9% of media out there
Edit: WTF they are actually gonna do it. Fata morgana fans... rise up. Patreons, support us. We making them play the first chapter at the very least
Where did they say they will read it? Excited for this 🎉
Now I gotta check that out since I really enjoyed Saya no Uta
Hope to see Guests soon, would love another NileRed episode and Chris is always goated - especially with his recent trips
Chris will be on soon (Connor teased it during his Monkey Jam stream)
2:01:14 plenty of people do this in real life. many of my friends didn't have childhoods for this exact reason or reasons similar. kids lock in all the time when they're forced to provide for or even raise their siblings
I think Garnt would get more enjoyment out of watching both FMA 2003 + Brotherhood, instead of only Brotherhood in isolation. Not just because the beginning (the first ~25 eps) is much more solid in the former, but because the foundation created by 2003 makes Brotherhood feel more epic, via contrast. To avoid spoiling anything, particularly the first major diverging point in Brotherhood is made several times more awe-inspiring when you (only) know the 2003 side of the story.
The two series feel very much like well-written VN routes in how they play out. FMA 2003 spends enormous effort to get the viewer invested in the beginning, while Brotherhood skims through it, as if expecting the viewer to already know how it plays out. FMA 2003 sets grim expectations for the outcome of the story, paving the way for Brotherhood to break through them. The juxtaposition makes their relative strengths shine. You can very well enjoy them in isolation, but I think there's much more to be gained from watching them as a set.
Yeah, I recommend machete style watching FMA up to the conclusion of the Maes Hugh arc and then switching over to Brotherhood
Could not have said it better.
Connor telling Joey that Vander in Arcane isn't a playable character for LoL is.... funny
Blood runs... they all run.
He's right though. You'd have to be living in the jungle if you think Vander is actually playable in League
@@johnny733unless you don't know anything about league, eg. joey
@@johnny733 Well not vander himself as he was in season 1. But thats what ive heard from speculations so who knows
@@ConHtm its pretty much confirmed...
Banger idea, could have been used for a series of episodes tho
One of my proudest moments in recent memory is getting my brothers friend to read domestic girlfriend and in true manga fashion he finished 70 chapters in a manner of days
The transition to the Betterhelp ad after Fear and Hunger is comedy gold
Great episode! Historical milestone in TT history for bois to watch/play/read so many great hits.
Joey watching Arcane is the biggest character development of the year.
hopefully he watches more. aint no way 1 episode is enough
@@the_shadow_clasher the problem is when arcane premiered the first 3 episodes came out at the same time. We get a full grasp of what is to come after watching all 3 episodes hence why joey wasn't hooked after one.
Nah, Garnt's FMA tops that. He's been on that journey for over a decade.
"We forced each other to watch..."
Please tell me they made Joey watch Arcane
Only the first episode
One of the longest episodes to date but I thoroughly enjoyed it. Can't wait for the next one!
This episode was fire. We need more of this kind of stuff~
connor playing and talking about saya no uta in 2024 was not in my bingo card
Having the boys discuss LotR made my day.
43:42 Bro what faces was the Trash Taste Garnt making bruh this guy is a reaction goldmine.
Saya no Uta is a masterpiece ngl.
I was in the perfect age when LOTR released, I started to be interested in films and I also read the books, so my hype level was already at 100 when I first heard about the The Fellowship.
And I was still young enough to be deeply amazed and influenced by a movie - a feeling that is harder to replicate as I grow older.
So long story short, It was one of the best times in cinema I had in my entire life. The sound blaring as the trolls smashed the door in Moria, the shrieking of the Nazgul, the music.
I will never forget that.
Someone probably should’ve told Joey Arcane released in threes so it’s no surprise he thought the first episode was alright. It’s 1/3 of Act 1😅
Betterhelp being the sponsor after the fear and hunger review is peak comedy to me
So true