Always appreciated his bass lines. Probably even more than the drums. So many of his beats have such a cool bass. He treated it more like a percussion. You can instantly hear when it’s him
@wm1573 100%, where he puts the notes and how they move around is so signature. Pino Palladino, the bass player from the Soulquarians at Electric Lady Studios era, I’ve heard talk about it being an influence around when working the D’Angelo n Badu stuff.
@wm1573 it’s wild how many established top shelf jazz musicians like Robert Glasper & Karriem Riggins talk about the influence his approach to music had on their approach to their musicianship.
When I first listened to J Dilla, it wasn’t his drums that really hooked me in. It was his baseline because it sounded so unique and still does thank you for being one of the only creators to make a in-depth video on this.
Me too I first heard from around 93-94 from Busta del la soul stakes is high etc etc and by 2000 I knew I liked a lazy heavy low bass by 2010 I realized most of those beats I like are DILLA all plus a thousand more.
Fun fact, feedback from an amplifier is essentially the same thing as an analog oscillator. The impulses created from the voice coil or pickup coils run through a feedback loop in the same way a synths oscillator would for what’s called an opamp. Then eventually since the sound is looping with a super short delay the resonance or quality factor (q) naturally creates a pure sine wave. Although it gets too loud to listen to 🤣
@@Nonjuror if I find the video I saw on this I’ll comment it here, but it makes a super steep band pass filter basically just like an analog oscillator. And also, cheers to you because this video is so dope and inspiring mane!
@flywittzbeats4008 please do, keen! You’ve got me thinking what I could do differently, like throw a guitar pedal or something in the chain after the turntable, like how a guitar’s feedback thru an amp can have a different tone with pedal etc…
@@Nonjuror that’s a great idea! I feel like the cool thing about making a feedback oscillator is that there is that period of time you have to really get creative while the quality factor of the filter is gaining energy and turning the signal into a sine wave. Which was why you had to cut out some higher frequency content there. This is where a vco with an opamp differs because that kind creates the final wave form almost instantly. I honestly looked for this video last night and couldn’t find it I really hope they didn’t take it down. It was a college professor that filmed an intro to electronics video but I found it while trying to learn about VCO’s a while ago. But Moritz Klein and Audiophool have amazing channels on these subjects also!
🤣🤣🤣 yes indeed, 1983 before the orange tip. It was pretty nerve wracking last time I transformed it to robot n back, feels super fragile…think it’s staying gun for a while…
@@Nonjuror My older brother had one (also before they started adding the orange tip), and I thought it was awesome. And while, he was gone at school , I tried to transform it. but I broke it. Needless to say my brother was pissed at me😐
I recently made a bass tone from a recording of my stoves exhaust fan that was pretty much identical to the hum feedback type thing you made. Good stuff as usual.
This is so inspiring. Big up to Dilla and so many other artists like bob james for their creativity and to You for your comprehension of this and your ability to convey this. Very creative man. Nice melody you made. 🫡🎧
Yoooo, so good. Thank you so much for sharing this stuff. The OGs were so creative, it is wild how they did so much with these analog pieces of gear that sound so much better, but they old ones had all these limitations. Have you read the book Dilla Time? Is that were you got the Quest quote from? What did you say the name of the app was you used to find the pitch of the sample?
Very cool! However I can NOT find the tuner in the Koala app! Is it only in the Samurai version? I bought it though but I can't seem to find this feature.
Back in the days i made my bass out of the jack plug with my fingers on it. Another great example for limitations force you to be creativ. Dilla was King! Thank you for the video 🙏
I think this was a tool a lot of 90s producers did. The extra noise feedback gives that bass sound a low octave type organ sound that shapes the sounds imo
I’m new at making beats and I’ve been trying to figure out how he did this forever! Figured I’d just have to wait to get a synthesizer to do it. Your free samples help so much until I can afford one. I appreciate you so much man
Yup. And during the early aughts I was getting similar results simply using a tone-generator in my DAW, sampling it, running it through EQ, and pitching it up and down.
So, that was pretty much normal operating procedure for any Hip Hop producers during “the Golden Era”. The Akai S01(pretty much standard issue)by default had the sign wave test tone loaded to the first bank. We all used that for our basslines, either that or we’d just use the same sample with all the highs sucked out on another bank. Caveman verse of stems but it worked
I used to put a needle on the record and tap on it to make a kick drum. I've been trying to figure out Dilla bass for like 20 years lol. I went trough so many bas modules. Kept the Sub Phatty but still couldn't get it.
I remember reading some interview with the guy who mixed Late Registration and he said that Kanye made his kicks by sampling feedback he recorded from looping his MPC back into itself.
I once tried to breakdown and make a own version of dilla's unreleased beat 'feelin good'. And I use a AI software to isolated the bass and vocal from the dilla original and the sample original, and combine samples like dilla did, and amazingly found out that dilla fill the bass for tiniest sample clip that dosent have the bass line, and it was mind blowing cuz I had zero idea how did he isolated the bass and fill in, and is literally details in the devil. Can never overrate dilla cuz his just better than what we thought.
Thanks mate! In the mixer screen, add the "Mic" effect to a Bus, this will send the mic input directly to that Bus. Then add the "Tuner" effect under it n you’re good to go.
This is dope. Out of the box and just what I needed. was getting YT production video paralysis there for a sec. History behind it is legit as well, as if we needed more reasons to love Dilla. I love quirky stuff like this. Like how Jungle producers in the 90's would use the Test Tone from the AKAI s950 or s1000 to make their basslines with. Just something about the weight and character of the test tone in those specific models that made sick basslines for the dance floor.
I’m with you 100%, Marly Marl talking about taking the test tone from his desk (30 or 40Hz from a SSL?) and having the kick from the Funky Drummer break trigger the tone’s noise gate to beef up the kick from Mama Said Knock You Out…that ish gives me goosebumps
This is cool. I love alternative ways to get sounds and tones that’s what sampling is all about! This is a dumb question but how do you get to the tuner in Koala?
Definitely not a dumb question - there’s a couple of steps involved. In the Mixer section, add the “Mic” effect, this sends the mic input signal directly to that Bus. Then under it put the “Tuner” effect. Cheers man!
@@Nonjuror Thank you so much! Having a tuner on hand is so convenient! Mad respect, I appreciate you taking the time to share information to the people.
In the mixer screen, add the "Mic" effect to a Bus, this will send the mic input directly to that Bus. Then add the "Tuner" effect under it n you're good to go.
In the mixer screen, add the "Mic" effect to a Bus, this will send the mic input directly to that Bus. Then add the "Tuner" effect under it n you’re good to go.
Dang. At first I misheard and though okay so Dilla pulled bass tones off a record and into a sampler, but no, the man was in a headspace all his own. I mean, he DID pull em off a record, technically.
That’s dope, I hadn’t thought of that. Obviously in my setup my monitor is decoupled from everything on that stand but I bet on the same surface you could dial in a feedback with a real interesting vibrato / warble going on
@@Nonjuror it's something you have to be careful not to do or mitigate when setting up soundsystems, your speakers are probably on pins, if the bass rumbles through the deck into the needle that's when you get big bass feedback, disaster on a soundsystem at a rave
In the first vid I sampled the turntable’s ground loop hum but what I was supposed to do is crank up the gain until the stylus feeds back with the speakers and sample that which I did this time around. Was actually really fun to mess with!
Before this I was using the mk2’s sound generator’s triangle wave with a lpf, cut thru the mix slightly more than it’s sine but less abrasive than the square
a sine wave is a single frequency so there's no point in running a low pass on it. this technique gives it a lot more depth in terms of harmonics, texture and movement
Running a sine wave through a low pass filter does 2 things: jack and shit. A sine wave, by definition is just one frequency. There's are no overtones to cut.
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Thanks for sharing this :)
Hope make a bunch of beats with them that ur neighbours can hear thru the wall, cheers! 🍺🍺🍺🍺
wow finally a free download where i dont gotta sign up and login
@djblur that’s really good to know, I tried to turn all that shit off
This is cool but I feel at the end of the day, it's the long way around to make a sinewave or square reshaped to near a sine 🤣
This is seriously so fascinating and a super refreshing thing about Dilla that isn't related to septuplet swing and his drum beats lol
It’s a wild thing, those deep buried obscure production technique gems are the best ones. Cheers!
Always appreciated his bass lines. Probably even more than the drums. So many of his beats have such a cool bass. He treated it more like a percussion. You can instantly hear when it’s him
@wm1573 100%, where he puts the notes and how they move around is so signature. Pino Palladino, the bass player from the Soulquarians at Electric Lady Studios era, I’ve heard talk about it being an influence around when working the D’Angelo n Badu stuff.
@@Nonjuror yeah that makes a lot of sense. Especially the song “chicken grease” in the voodoo album has dilla written all over it
@wm1573 it’s wild how many established top shelf jazz musicians like Robert Glasper & Karriem Riggins talk about the influence his approach to music had on their approach to their musicianship.
When I first listened to J Dilla, it wasn’t his drums that really hooked me in. It was his baseline because it sounded so unique and still does thank you for being one of the only creators to make a in-depth video on this.
Me too I first heard from around 93-94 from Busta del la soul stakes is high etc etc and by 2000 I knew I liked a lazy heavy low bass by 2010 I realized most of those beats I like are DILLA all plus a thousand more.
Fun fact, feedback from an amplifier is essentially the same thing as an analog oscillator. The impulses created from the voice coil or pickup coils run through a feedback loop in the same way a synths oscillator would for what’s called an opamp. Then eventually since the sound is looping with a super short delay the resonance or quality factor (q) naturally creates a pure sine wave. Although it gets too loud to listen to 🤣
😳😳😳 wow, that I did not know n that’s dope af, thanks for that! Cheers! 🍺🍺🍺🍺
@@Nonjuror if I find the video I saw on this I’ll comment it here, but it makes a super steep band pass filter basically just like an analog oscillator. And also, cheers to you because this video is so dope and inspiring mane!
@flywittzbeats4008 please do, keen! You’ve got me thinking what I could do differently, like throw a guitar pedal or something in the chain after the turntable, like how a guitar’s feedback thru an amp can have a different tone with pedal etc…
This is fascinating
@@Nonjuror that’s a great idea! I feel like the cool thing about making a feedback oscillator is that there is that period of time you have to really get creative while the quality factor of the filter is gaining energy and turning the signal into a sine wave. Which was why you had to cut out some higher frequency content there. This is where a vco with an opamp differs because that kind creates the final wave form almost instantly. I honestly looked for this video last night and couldn’t find it I really hope they didn’t take it down. It was a college professor that filmed an intro to electronics video but I found it while trying to learn about VCO’s a while ago. But Moritz Klein and Audiophool have amazing channels on these subjects also!
this & the hair blower that was sampled for " Flava In Ya Ear " are by far the coolest stories of sampling i've heard. thanks for sharing.
Wait wait, that’s what that train whistle sounding thing is when the beat kicks off??
I recently found out RZA used to do something similar with the hum from a tape machine. pretty cool.
Dude you nailed it 🤯 Always thought it came from a synth too
wait, wait, wait. Is that an OG Megatron ?!?! at 2:50
🤣🤣🤣 yes indeed, 1983 before the orange tip. It was pretty nerve wracking last time I transformed it to robot n back, feels super fragile…think it’s staying gun for a while…
@@Nonjuror My older brother had one (also before they started adding the orange tip), and I thought it was awesome. And while, he was gone at school , I tried to transform it. but I broke it. Needless to say my brother was pissed at me😐
@completebeats8771 daaaaamn I bet he was!
06:16 I once sampled DDG’s voice to make a bass-line. I also sampled Robert Moog speaking to make a “Moog bass-line” 😄
😳😳😳 WILD. That’s really funny but extremely dope, sick!
clean light and dope vid bro 🔥
Just goes to show the levels producers be playing at
Absolutely, those late-90’s beatmakers building on what the 80’s beatmakers laid down would have soooo many out-of-the box techniques!
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I recently made a bass tone from a recording of my stoves exhaust fan that was pretty much identical to the hum feedback type thing you made. Good stuff as usual.
😲😲😲 that’s fkn brilliant, I wanna hear that before and after processing! Cheers!
@@Nonjuror
It was part of this little thing.
ruclips.net/video/DoqeFF_aysM/видео.htmlsi=XH_rP42rG3aLfz8p
Same here. I love shit like that!!!
Make a sample pack out of it and share it 😅
This is BONKERS! Love this.
I loved everything about this! Happy the algorithm sent me this video.
This is so inspiring. Big up to Dilla and so many other artists like bob james for their creativity and to You for your comprehension of this and your ability to convey this. Very creative man. Nice melody you made. 🫡🎧
Thanks for giving the bass hits for free brother 🤘🏼
Hope you get some fun out of them that ur neighbours can hear thru the wall, cheers! 🍺🍺🍺🍺
@@Nonjurorusing these to throw some truly disgraceful drops into my metal band’s live backing tracks lol thank you
I’m gonna need you to come set up my studio
Works nicely w any resonant tone. This freezer in the asian mart opposite my university used to have a really fire hum tone coming off it 😅
Thaaaaaaat. Sample that with like a Zoom H4n…dang
@Nonjuror I still live here so I think I gotta go actually make the shit happen 😅 I'll record the process
@BuiltbyF fck yes, I wanna see that journey!
This video is G O L D. Well done much love.
Yoooo, so good. Thank you so much for sharing this stuff. The OGs were so creative, it is wild how they did so much with these analog pieces of gear that sound so much better, but they old ones had all these limitations. Have you read the book Dilla Time? Is that were you got the Quest quote from? What did you say the name of the app was you used to find the pitch of the sample?
Here I was thinking I should do this, then realizing I wont and you hook a brother up with the free download. Classy 🎩👌
🤣🤣🤣 cheers mate!
Good on you for digging deep into the process.
Thanks heaps mate, cheers! 🍺🍺🍺🍺
Bruh dilla is a madman! This is the last thing I expected his sub bass to be lmao.
thank you for the samples and the revealing video!
Cheers mate, appreciate you checking them out! 🍺🍺🍺🍺
Very cool! However I can NOT find the tuner in the Koala app! Is it only in the Samurai version? I bought it though but I can't seem to find this feature.
Very cool.
Cheers!
Back in the days i made my bass out of the jack plug with my fingers on it. Another great example for limitations force you to be creativ. Dilla was King! Thank you for the video 🙏
Incredible Bro
Cheers! 🍺🍺🍺🍺
ur such a legend man i been wanting this bass tone .🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Wicked, cheers! 🍺🍺🍺🍺
That beat was pretty dope. Real 90s sound. If that was your goal, you done good.
Subbed.
That and not kill my speaker 😆 cheers man! 🍺🍺🍺🍺
I think this was a tool a lot of 90s producers did. The extra noise feedback gives that bass sound a low octave type organ sound that shapes the sounds imo
I’m new at making beats and I’ve been trying to figure out how he did this forever! Figured I’d just have to wait to get a synthesizer to do it. Your free samples help so much until I can afford one. I appreciate you so much man
Dope video! Thanks bro
whoooooooo what a cool way to make new soundsssss, thanks for the tip bro!!!
Amazing video! Enjoyed the reupload. ✌😎
Maaaaan thank you for rewatching…that turntable feedback thing is really fun to mess with! Proooost! 🍺🍺🍺🍺
Yup. And during the early aughts I was getting similar results simply using a tone-generator in my DAW, sampling it, running it through EQ, and pitching it up and down.
2:46 well that makes all the sense to me now. Used to slap on these 12bit Sp1200 presets and wonder why it didn’t sound like one. 26khz is the key!
Something about what that bit crushing adds back to the high frequencies gives it personality that helps it sit in the mix nicer, I think. Cheers!
Incredible. Great video.
Thanks heaps mate, cheers!
Got my best kick sounds on turntable feedback by tapping my fingers on the turntable without the needle down
So, that was pretty much normal operating procedure for any Hip Hop producers during “the Golden Era”.
The Akai S01(pretty much standard issue)by default had the sign wave test tone loaded to the first bank. We all used that for our basslines, either that or we’d just use the same sample with all the highs sucked out on another bank. Caveman verse of stems but it worked
Dope as hell! Big Ups! 😁👊
I used to put a needle on the record and tap on it to make a kick drum. I've been trying to figure out Dilla bass for like 20 years lol. I went trough so many bas modules. Kept the Sub Phatty but still couldn't get it.
That’s sick af, real subby with that slight needle bounce attack…finger controlled dynamics. Love it.
I was gonna say Questlove should tell more stories of Dilla but I feel like I almost wasn't supposed to be seeing this. That's actually cool
really good job ma man. thnx for the free samples!!
Maybe another project you could do is the rubber band technique that he used too ;) thanks for the bass tone I’m gonna go cop that
Wait…what’s that?? Googling now…
How did Dilla make his bass tones? Simply put, he just did it by trial and error. Keep banging the beats out!!
wow thanks for this
Cheers!
Such a good idea, left wondering if there’s much difference depending where you drop the needle 🤔
Omg this is amazing.
So damn crazy, legit genius thing a genius does.
I remember reading some interview with the guy who mixed Late Registration and he said that Kanye made his kicks by sampling feedback he recorded from looping his MPC back into itself.
dope brotha
I once tried to breakdown and make a own version of dilla's unreleased beat 'feelin good'. And I use a AI software to isolated the bass and vocal from the dilla original and the sample original, and combine samples like dilla did, and amazingly found out that dilla fill the bass for tiniest sample clip that dosent have the bass line, and it was mind blowing cuz I had zero idea how did he isolated the bass and fill in, and is literally details in the devil. Can never overrate dilla cuz his just better than what we thought.
thanks man !! 🙏
Cheers! 🍺🍺🍺🍺
Super dope
I used to do something like this by recording the buzz when i touched an rca into mpc
Dope! Dilla wuz a Wizard!
Low End Theory
Good tips. The beat is nice 👌
Thanks heaps man, much appreciated!
🔥🔥🔥🫡🫡🫡
Nice one. Question, where is that tuner in Koala? Can’t find it.
Thanks mate! In the mixer screen, add the "Mic" effect to a Bus, this will send the mic input directly to that Bus. Then add the "Tuner" effect under it n you’re good to go.
@@Nonjuror Hey thanks for that. Good tip. Koala is so good 😊
@gleannmhuire Elf Audio know the score!
This is dope. Out of the box and just what I needed. was getting YT production video paralysis there for a sec. History behind it is legit as well, as if we needed more reasons to love Dilla. I love quirky stuff like this. Like how Jungle producers in the 90's would use the Test Tone from the AKAI s950 or s1000 to make their basslines with. Just something about the weight and character of the test tone in those specific models that made sick basslines for the dance floor.
I’m with you 100%, Marly Marl talking about taking the test tone from his desk (30 or 40Hz from a SSL?) and having the kick from the Funky Drummer break trigger the tone’s noise gate to beef up the kick from Mama Said Knock You Out…that ish gives me goosebumps
SICK
Great Video!!
Any chance you could create a sample pack of these bass sounds for those of us that do not have the equipment to try this
Yep yep, you can d/l the bass sounds from this video here: bsta.rs/Ckgrqe
Cheers!
@@Nonjuror you are a legend. Thank you so much
shi dats dope! thanks for sharing!
This is cool. I love alternative ways to get sounds and tones that’s what sampling is all about! This is a dumb question but how do you get to the tuner in Koala?
Definitely not a dumb question - there’s a couple of steps involved. In the Mixer section, add the “Mic” effect, this sends the mic input signal directly to that Bus. Then under it put the “Tuner” effect. Cheers man!
@@Nonjuror Thank you so much! Having a tuner on hand is so convenient! Mad respect, I appreciate you taking the time to share information to the people.
@Guacamole1000 having a tuner for working with samples is so good, such a useful tool for Elf Audio to add. Appreciate you watching my stuff man!
Is this a reupload, remember watching this
Yeah…I screwed up in the first one…🤦🏻♂️
@@Nonjuror I watch it again anyway to spot the difference. Thanks for the tip though
It’s in the key of c. I heard that straight away
Really cool ❤
Dope technique. Also, couldn’t help but notice that you have a copy of Transformers the Movie. That’s my movie right there.
Till all are one. 👊
Cool wood skin on your SP-404 👌🏻
Thanks heaps mate! I sliced it out of a roll of laminate I found at the hardware store. Cheers!
Houseshoes told that same story before
Dope, that an interview on yt?
that was cool
Nice Megatron next to the 60!
Mid-80’s pre-orange barrel cap…older than the mpc 🤣
sounds just like the bass dilla used on coastin'
Definitely does! ruclips.net/video/GvvimCKuqg0/видео.htmlsi=RgU-yjyQ7RpMqfw1
I literally hear nothing after you low pass sample not like there was much sound before that
over your phone's speakers?
A triangle wave on a Moog?
but I'm left wondering what Questlove was saying
did dilla use a pk-6??
At like 1:53 of this video you can see it on his keyboard rack ruclips.net/video/1Bv3h9D3v_8/видео.html
🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
I always assumed the moog did it all as well 🤯
Didnt Need the lowfilter
That sound’s growl is amazing, I completely agree
Wow that’s ace
Cheers! 🍺🍺🍺🍺
Thank you for the jewels 🔥
Cheers! 🍺🍺🍺🍺
all i can say is daaumn
make a tutorial video making this in a DAW pls, this gonna help me so much
Yo, how did you access the tuner on koala?
In the mixer screen, add the "Mic" effect to a Bus, this will send the mic input directly to that Bus. Then add the "Tuner" effect under it n you're good to go.
@@Nonjuror Ah, dope dude, thx!
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Cheers! 🍺🍺🍺🍺
where is the tuner in Koala app? thanks
In the mixer screen, add the “Mic” effect to a Bus, this will send the mic input directly to that Bus. Then add the “Tuner” effect under it. Cheers!
What about filtering a fart... would that work?? (lowPASS-gas :)
How do you find the tuner in koala?
In the mixer screen, add the "Mic" effect to a Bus, this will send the mic input directly to that Bus. Then add the "Tuner" effect under it n you’re good to go.
Dang. At first I misheard and though okay so Dilla pulled bass tones off a record and into a sampler, but no, the man was in a headspace all his own. I mean, he DID pull em off a record, technically.
Bass feedback is way better/worse when the speaker is on the same table as a record player
That’s dope, I hadn’t thought of that. Obviously in my setup my monitor is decoupled from everything on that stand but I bet on the same surface you could dial in a feedback with a real interesting vibrato / warble going on
@@Nonjuror it's something you have to be careful not to do or mitigate when setting up soundsystems, your speakers are probably on pins, if the bass rumbles through the deck into the needle that's when you get big bass feedback, disaster on a soundsystem at a rave
65hz moog bass, there you go
Why the reupload?
In the first vid I sampled the turntable’s ground loop hum but what I was supposed to do is crank up the gain until the stylus feeds back with the speakers and sample that which I did this time around. Was actually really fun to mess with!
👏👏👏
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I prefer the sound of the second method
Sounds pretty much like a sinus wave. Why all this trouble? :D
👃🌊🤘
you could also get this tone by just using a synth with a sine wave and running a low pass filter on it
Before this I was using the mk2’s sound generator’s triangle wave with a lpf, cut thru the mix slightly more than it’s sine but less abrasive than the square
a sine wave is a single frequency so there's no point in running a low pass on it. this technique gives it a lot more depth in terms of harmonics, texture and movement
Running a sine wave through a low pass filter does 2 things: jack and shit. A sine wave, by definition is just one frequency. There's are no overtones to cut.
"to cut out the high frequencies i'm gonna put a low pass filter on it" brother what high frequencies???