To this day, I'm getting some of my buds to try these games out. Bamco got something cooking with the way they did Cybersleuth duology. If they can keep upcoming Digimon games like this, then they can find an identity with the games.
I so happy the next game in the pipeline is another Digimon Story title with the same producer that did Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth and hacker's memory, the game have been in a long but solid development since 2018, I really hope they announce it soon, and hopefully will dethrone Cyber Sleuth as the best most solid digimon game to date.
@@Sallymumble Dawn/Dusk Are Still Better!And Battle Spirit 1.5 And 2.0 Are Also Better!Chronomon HM Better Be In The Next Game!Holy Flare!Corona!Chrono DSR!
@@Hynotama the latest information we got this month is that the director of cyber sleuth and hacker's memory (Habu Kazumasa) who was working on the new story game left bandai last year, but he said on twitter a trusted directors is continuing the project. According to him the story will revolve around The Olympus xii (Another group of digimon like the royal knights in cyber sleuth), and unlike cyber sleuth that took place in the real world and cyber space, the new story would take place in the real world and the Digital World. That's about all the info we know.
I picked up this game when they came out for the PS4, but never really got into it until I got it for my switch and now it’s one of my favorite games aside from Digimon next order
Having recently bought both cyber sleuth and next order, I can say I prefer cyber sleuth due to it being more similar to digimon world 3 in that you've got your digimon team but you can just focus on training them if you want, rather than having to deal with feeding them and taking them to the toilet etc. That part really interferes with training your digimon up. Plus, cyber sleuth lists digivolution requirements from the get go rather than having to unlock them in next order so it makes getting the forms you want much easier.
You don’t need the switch version. If you can exercise a bit of patience, you can raise 6 PlatinumSukamon, 3 of which you’ll evolve further into Etemon and then PlatinumNumemon. The platinum digimon give you double exp if they are in battle. And they each can be equipped with 3 Tactician USB that does the same thing. And these effects stack. PlatinumSukamon if fairly easy to get and doesn’t use up too much memory for the party, but the rest will take a bit of grinding to get, especially the Tactician USB, which can only be crafted in the digi farm and they’re not guaranteed and you need 9 of them for maximum exp gains. On top of this, Etemon is an ultimate level and PlatinumNumemon is a mega level, which requires a lot of memory to use in your party, which is why I mentioned patience. RAM sticks and RAM sticks DX are given to you through the story and in a few chests. You’ll also need access to the digital shift in the Tokyo Metropolitan Building, for high level mega digimon to fight, but that’s in one of the last chapters of the game.
Cyber Slueth needed only a few changes to be great. Firstly, they needed to lock your Digimon in to whatever they were. Any Digimon being able to be every other Digimon meant that all learned moves are available to all Digimon and it meant only exclusive moves could have any interesting mechanics. Imagine the choices to digivolve and de-digivolve stayed the same, but each Digimon were locked into the digivolutions you chose. So you have a champion and choose which ultimate it becomes. From that point on, that's the only ultimate it can become. Same with whatever it's champion form was. Next change, passives and active abilities are treated the same and must fit on your slots. Within those slots you place abilities (both passive and active). This further encourages them to make interesting and fun ability options, something the game seriously lacked. Give more variety by having a sliding scale between more stats, but fewer ability slots, with more stats and ability slots for higher form Digimon. Lastly, make it so that your Digimon remember the level they were at before changing form. Not to make the new form at that same level, but just to make it so if you de-Digivolve back into that form, it retains its level. This means you can train each stage of a Digimon to level 100, gaining useful abilities and passives even from weak forms for maxing out your Digimon. Only other suggestion is to maybe treat equipment as ability slots too. Like they fill those slots. Could allow for some robust balancing.
The only gripes I have with these games are the lack of english dubbing, the bland dungeon design, and maybe the grinding at times. Asides from that I adore these games, pretty much what got me back into Digimon.
And it also happens to have the most robust competitive scene in all of Digimon, easily comparable to other successful turn-based games with a competitive environment.
U forgot about digimon world 3 for ps one these two has the same as dmw 3 to me dmw 3 is the blue print of cyber sleuth an hacker memories that's what made me love these two the only thing that's missing on these two games compared to Digimon world 3 is that you can digivolve an DNA digivolve in the middle of a match and after the match you return back to your base form .
DM3 is a great game! One of my favorites. I think Cyber Sleuth is generally review better but check out my DW3 remaster video for my thoughts on the game 🙂
Lmao..yeah cuz its cuz of the time frame if RUclips was around or as big as it is now it would be reviewed better.. 😂 but only thing these two modern game is missing is the digivolving or DNA digivolve in the middle of battle then going back to the base or original from u had in ur party before the battle.
While I do like DW3, I hated the lack of playable Digimons available for the player. Also backtracking was a headache with that random encounter rate. DWS:CS is way better.
Can we just get another cybersleuth game please any info guys please let know if you find anything i was watch the digimon show thing event it was garbage i need another game badly pokemon is getting boring not enough content to easy in my sleep im bout to swtch to palworld but i dont think ill ever play anything else again if i donim still waiting i don't know for how much longer I can take 😢
Digimon Story was good, absolutely, but I cannot rank them higher than Survive. Survive's story was significantly better, the Characters felt more important to me, and the emotions hit harder. As you mentioned, in Story, I too wished for skippable cutscenes, and that is a pretty clear sign that the dialogue just wasn't that good. often it felt bland and, well, skippable. Of course the story isn't everything in a video game, but in a Digimon game specifically, it actually is, at least for me. The story and characters are the reasons why I would seak out a Digimon game in particular instead of playing literally just anything else. Survive's gameplay felt far weaker than Stories, and so I'm glad there was so little actual gameplay in that game, but the better story made that very forgivable. Still, Digimon Story is nonetheless fantastic.
Really great points! Survive has a much stronger story and character but I think the reason Story is typically seen as the best Digimon game is because a more general audience can enjoy it. Survive does several things much better than Story though
You don’t need the farm advantage from the switch version. Get 6 PlatinumSukamon, 3 of which you’ll be keeping because they’re viable for a few chapters in the game and 3 of which you’ll evolve into Etemon (to gain the Nightmare III skill) and then evolve the 3 Etemon into PlatinumNumemon. The platinum Digimon have an ability that doubles your EXP gain if they’re active in battle. Then use the digi farm to craft Tactician USB (you’ll need 9 of them to equip 3 to each of your PlatinumNumemon). Tactician USB double EXP gains too. And all these effects stack, leading to ridiculously high amounts of EXP gain from every battle. This trick far outpaces anything you can gain by leaving your digimon on the farms, especially for higher levels. This is also better for digimon that require you to take them up and down on the digivolution tree to increase their ABI stat or max level.
cyber sleuth is a boring mess where very annoying humans take center stage, the dungeons suck and love to make you go back and forth up and down to waste your time, I cannot believe any reviewer actually finished cyber sleuth since there is only praise for this garbage
Fully agree. if this is the "gold standard" for this franchise I feel so fkn sorry for the fans. I haven't played a Digimon games since the ps1 titles and after picking this up yesterday I'm 100% trading it in. It's a complete yap fest with way too much dialogue. It's also got some really dog sht level design.
@@Hollow_Autumn It can make for a better story when characters are fleshed out with more dialogue. To me, the talking can get a bit boring, but that is not why I love Cyber Sleuth in the first place. Cyber Sleuth has its problems, but it is a really fun game to me. It has its problems, but these things are not the draw to Cyber Sleuth for me, it is the grinding to eventually digivolve your digimon to the ones you want, I enjoy that feature a lot, the digivolve feature is so much more complex and intricate compared to pokemon, which is why I love it so much, also, the fact that there is a digital world and the "normal" world colliding is very intriguing for me to think about, it makes for an interesting concept that is very fun and intriguing to see in a game. The concept of hackers is very interesting too, they turn the whole "hackers are always bad" on its head with Cyber Sleuth and Hacker's Memory. But, I enjoy games for what they are, even if a game has some bad mechanics, other parts of the game can save it and make it worth the playthrough for me, personally. A lot of games are not perfect, and can have some bad things in them, take for instance, my fave game as a teen was Ninja Gaiden for the Xbox, but the camera was awful, however, NG has a lot of redeemable qualities in it that made the bad camera pale in comparison to the game as a whole, despite its flaws, NG is still classed as a classic game. Maybe not the gold standard for a game, but as long as the mechanics are not game breaking, it can still be worth while to play a game with some bad features in it, and still enjoy it. CS and HM are not perfect at all, but the whole experience to me, was worth it, but judging a game that can have well over 100 hours of playthrough (but only if you want really strong digimon) from only a day of playing it, is not a good judgement of a game, though, to be honest, as you have barely started the game. RPG's are very long games, so a day of playing will get you nowhere. Some games take a while to get going, some are slow paced or don't have a deep story until a lot of hours into the game, but if you play through it all, you can come out thinking, yes it isn't perfect, but it was really fun to go through that experience anyway. Some games are just bad though, but CS has a lot of good things in it, to me personally, that makes up for the bad. The main point I am trying to make, is that just because a game has bad features in it, doesn't make it less enjoyable as a whole for people to play, and doesn't mean it was not worth playing through it and doesn't mean the games don't have redeemable qualities that make up for the bad.
To this day, I'm getting some of my buds to try these games out. Bamco got something cooking with the way they did Cybersleuth duology. If they can keep upcoming Digimon games like this, then they can find an identity with the games.
I so happy the next game in the pipeline is another Digimon Story title with the same producer that did Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth and hacker's memory, the game have been in a long but solid development since 2018, I really hope they announce it soon, and hopefully will dethrone Cyber Sleuth as the best most solid digimon game to date.
Yes! So excited for the new Story game 🙌🏽
@@Sallymumble Dawn/Dusk Are Still Better!And Battle Spirit 1.5 And 2.0 Are Also Better!Chronomon HM Better Be In The Next Game!Holy Flare!Corona!Chrono DSR!
Wait! What? I haven’t heard anything about that! I need more info! 😱
@@Hynotama the latest information we got this month is that the director of cyber sleuth and hacker's memory (Habu Kazumasa) who was working on the new story game left bandai last year, but he said on twitter a trusted directors is continuing the project.
According to him the story will revolve around The Olympus xii (Another group of digimon like the royal knights in cyber sleuth), and unlike cyber sleuth that took place in the real world and cyber space, the new story would take place in the real world and the Digital World. That's about all the info we know.
I picked up this game when they came out for the PS4, but never really got into it until I got it for my switch and now it’s one of my favorite games aside from Digimon next order
Having recently bought both cyber sleuth and next order, I can say I prefer cyber sleuth due to it being more similar to digimon world 3 in that you've got your digimon team but you can just focus on training them if you want, rather than having to deal with feeding them and taking them to the toilet etc. That part really interferes with training your digimon up. Plus, cyber sleuth lists digivolution requirements from the get go rather than having to unlock them in next order so it makes getting the forms you want much easier.
You don’t need the switch version. If you can exercise a bit of patience, you can raise 6 PlatinumSukamon, 3 of which you’ll evolve further into Etemon and then PlatinumNumemon. The platinum digimon give you double exp if they are in battle. And they each can be equipped with 3 Tactician USB that does the same thing. And these effects stack. PlatinumSukamon if fairly easy to get and doesn’t use up too much memory for the party, but the rest will take a bit of grinding to get, especially the Tactician USB, which can only be crafted in the digi farm and they’re not guaranteed and you need 9 of them for maximum exp gains. On top of this, Etemon is an ultimate level and PlatinumNumemon is a mega level, which requires a lot of memory to use in your party, which is why I mentioned patience. RAM sticks and RAM sticks DX are given to you through the story and in a few chests. You’ll also need access to the digital shift in the Tokyo Metropolitan Building, for high level mega digimon to fight, but that’s in one of the last chapters of the game.
What really helps cyber sleuth is the modding scene on pc. There are mods that let you have 700+ digimon in game
Does it include the rest of the Frontier spirits?
@@BradleyBoy ultimate digimon pack has them.
@@dailybugle2147 Ahh
Question, I'm new to this, how do you get mods for the PC version
Cyber Slueth needed only a few changes to be great. Firstly, they needed to lock your Digimon in to whatever they were. Any Digimon being able to be every other Digimon meant that all learned moves are available to all Digimon and it meant only exclusive moves could have any interesting mechanics. Imagine the choices to digivolve and de-digivolve stayed the same, but each Digimon were locked into the digivolutions you chose. So you have a champion and choose which ultimate it becomes. From that point on, that's the only ultimate it can become. Same with whatever it's champion form was.
Next change, passives and active abilities are treated the same and must fit on your slots. Within those slots you place abilities (both passive and active). This further encourages them to make interesting and fun ability options, something the game seriously lacked.
Give more variety by having a sliding scale between more stats, but fewer ability slots, with more stats and ability slots for higher form Digimon.
Lastly, make it so that your Digimon remember the level they were at before changing form. Not to make the new form at that same level, but just to make it so if you de-Digivolve back into that form, it retains its level. This means you can train each stage of a Digimon to level 100, gaining useful abilities and passives even from weak forms for maxing out your Digimon.
Only other suggestion is to maybe treat equipment as ability slots too. Like they fill those slots. Could allow for some robust balancing.
The only gripes I have with these games are the lack of english dubbing, the bland dungeon design, and maybe the grinding at times. Asides from that I adore these games, pretty much what got me back into Digimon.
Yes, lots of small-ish improvements would help the game so much!
If only we can get digimob game with next order world design and cyber sleuth gamplay would be perfect
@@martin25able totally agree!
And it also happens to have the most robust competitive scene in all of Digimon, easily comparable to other successful turn-based games with a competitive environment.
That's awesome! is it still active?
I like more the style of digimon world / next order, but Cyber Sleuth is cool too, i would like to skip the dialogue faster, but still a nice game. xD
3:26 I just wish this game had skippable cutscenes so replaying it would be less of a slog. Still, I adore the amount of options you get.
Completely agree! There’s so much content that it’s a shame it’s hard to get through at times
I really just want a new turn based digimon game
U forgot about digimon world 3 for ps one these two has the same as dmw 3 to me dmw 3 is the blue print of cyber sleuth an hacker memories that's what made me love these two the only thing that's missing on these two games compared to Digimon world 3 is that you can digivolve an DNA digivolve in the middle of a match and after the match you return back to your base form .
DM3 is a great game! One of my favorites. I think Cyber Sleuth is generally review better but check out my DW3 remaster video for my thoughts on the game 🙂
Lmao..yeah cuz its cuz of the time frame if RUclips was around or as big as it is now it would be reviewed better.. 😂 but only thing these two modern game is missing is the digivolving or DNA digivolve in the middle of battle then going back to the base or original from u had in ur party before the battle.
World 3 is the blue print to these two games
While I do like DW3, I hated the lack of playable Digimons available for the player. Also backtracking was a headache with that random encounter rate. DWS:CS is way better.
Next order was trash . Bought 3 days ago, played 2 days with a struggle. Cyber sleuth has been amazing . Much better.
That's because Digimon Survive require you to read a freking long chat. even in the new+ game.
Can we just get another cybersleuth game please any info guys please let know if you find anything i was watch the digimon show thing event it was garbage i need another game badly pokemon is getting boring not enough content to easy in my sleep im bout to swtch to palworld but i dont think ill ever play anything else again if i donim still waiting i don't know for how much longer I can take 😢
They said during that that there is more coming
steam summer sale is on rn. 9.99 should i buy?
Should i play this game using the mod that removes all dialogues and cutscenes? for the minimum i played it seems that they're made for teenagers
Digimon Story was good, absolutely, but I cannot rank them higher than Survive. Survive's story was significantly better, the Characters felt more important to me, and the emotions hit harder. As you mentioned, in Story, I too wished for skippable cutscenes, and that is a pretty clear sign that the dialogue just wasn't that good. often it felt bland and, well, skippable. Of course the story isn't everything in a video game, but in a Digimon game specifically, it actually is, at least for me. The story and characters are the reasons why I would seak out a Digimon game in particular instead of playing literally just anything else. Survive's gameplay felt far weaker than Stories, and so I'm glad there was so little actual gameplay in that game, but the better story made that very forgivable. Still, Digimon Story is nonetheless fantastic.
Really great points! Survive has a much stronger story and character but I think the reason Story is typically seen as the best Digimon game is because a more general audience can enjoy it. Survive does several things much better than Story though
Does the farms work the same on switch and pc for the complete edition?
The PC farm system does not have the same advantage the Switch version has
@Sallymumble damn. ! Figured since they were both complete edition they might. Thank you, a
You don’t need the farm advantage from the switch version. Get 6 PlatinumSukamon, 3 of which you’ll be keeping because they’re viable for a few chapters in the game and 3 of which you’ll evolve into Etemon (to gain the Nightmare III skill) and then evolve the 3 Etemon into PlatinumNumemon. The platinum Digimon have an ability that doubles your EXP gain if they’re active in battle. Then use the digi farm to craft Tactician USB (you’ll need 9 of them to equip 3 to each of your PlatinumNumemon). Tactician USB double EXP gains too. And all these effects stack, leading to ridiculously high amounts of EXP gain from every battle. This trick far outpaces anything you can gain by leaving your digimon on the farms, especially for higher levels. This is also better for digimon that require you to take them up and down on the digivolution tree to increase their ABI stat or max level.
Just give me cyber sleuth 2 already or he’ll survive 02 I want Gulusgammamon now
The new game is going feature the Olympos 12 which I’m excited about
@@Sallymumble when that hell tht coming
@@finessecompeletion5581 haha I wish I knew
cyber sleuth is a boring mess where very annoying humans take center stage, the dungeons suck and love to make you go back and forth up and down to waste your time, I cannot believe any reviewer actually finished cyber sleuth since there is only praise for this garbage
Fully agree. if this is the "gold standard" for this franchise I feel so fkn sorry for the fans. I haven't played a Digimon games since the ps1 titles and after picking this up yesterday I'm 100% trading it in. It's a complete yap fest with way too much dialogue. It's also got some really dog sht level design.
@@Hollow_Autumn It can make for a better story when characters are fleshed out with more dialogue. To me, the talking can get a bit boring, but that is not why I love Cyber Sleuth in the first place. Cyber Sleuth has its problems, but it is a really fun game to me. It has its problems, but these things are not the draw to Cyber Sleuth for me, it is the grinding to eventually digivolve your digimon to the ones you want, I enjoy that feature a lot, the digivolve feature is so much more complex and intricate compared to pokemon, which is why I love it so much, also, the fact that there is a digital world and the "normal" world colliding is very intriguing for me to think about, it makes for an interesting concept that is very fun and intriguing to see in a game. The concept of hackers is very interesting too, they turn the whole "hackers are always bad" on its head with Cyber Sleuth and Hacker's Memory. But, I enjoy games for what they are, even if a game has some bad mechanics, other parts of the game can save it and make it worth the playthrough for me, personally.
A lot of games are not perfect, and can have some bad things in them, take for instance, my fave game as a teen was Ninja Gaiden for the Xbox, but the camera was awful, however, NG has a lot of redeemable qualities in it that made the bad camera pale in comparison to the game as a whole, despite its flaws, NG is still classed as a classic game. Maybe not the gold standard for a game, but as long as the mechanics are not game breaking, it can still be worth while to play a game with some bad features in it, and still enjoy it. CS and HM are not perfect at all, but the whole experience to me, was worth it, but judging a game that can have well over 100 hours of playthrough (but only if you want really strong digimon) from only a day of playing it, is not a good judgement of a game, though, to be honest, as you have barely started the game. RPG's are very long games, so a day of playing will get you nowhere. Some games take a while to get going, some are slow paced or don't have a deep story until a lot of hours into the game, but if you play through it all, you can come out thinking, yes it isn't perfect, but it was really fun to go through that experience anyway. Some games are just bad though, but CS has a lot of good things in it, to me personally, that makes up for the bad.
The main point I am trying to make, is that just because a game has bad features in it, doesn't make it less enjoyable as a whole for people to play, and doesn't mean it was not worth playing through it and doesn't mean the games don't have redeemable qualities that make up for the bad.
Great video just bought mine on switch for $18 on eBay. 🦾 My favorite Digimon game is Digimon digital card battle.
awesome! you'll really enjoy playing through these games