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That's actually sick, I've also reshaped my playstyle with Spidey to be more disruptor like rather than trying to assasinate target in the back since its so hard to do that without dying right now, so pulling targets into your team when you have hook then flying around throwing uppercuts to disrupt fights seems more viable. This tech is definitely gonna improve this play style so thanks a lot
You can put a tracer on then right before the E and it would still work, you just have to do it at almost the same time. If you use a normal punch like this you can still do over 300 dmg and it is faster. It would be Right-click + E + Left-click + Right-click + F + L shift+ Right click. I haven't properly checked but I think the enemy only has about half a second during which they can react before dying, once they have already been hit by E
Yeah I did that in my videos 5 days ago but it’s easier to focus on hitting the e since the tracer in this sequence is guaranteed in the same spot so you don’t need to aim and you’d need to still jump anyway to not end the cc of the pull so it holds the whole duration of stun which is what I was missing before when I canceled into lshift tracer. Edit: question when you’re saying left click after the E. Are you staying grounded or still jumping. If so you’d get cc by all of your old counters. You have to break LoS
I'm a Mantis main, I'll probably never play Spiderman but I love watching your videos about him (and other heros). It would be super cool to have a Mantis in depht guide like you did with Loki :)
im pretty sure if your in the air already you can plink and still do an overhead even if you already double jumped but im not sure if it works with both types of plinks or only one
@@TeCeeBoiyou don't need to Plink, if you do it with a high momentum you'll drag them for a long duration allowing you to setup the overhead into Tracer and then an Uppercut (even if you used the upper earlier). I got examples of it in some of my videos :)
Great vids, I like basic guides as a new player, but these advanced tech guides are what is gonna push me to the next level. Do you have a bhop guide for spidey?
Additional very minor thing, you can cancel the pull in with a webswing, insta cancel into cluster, jump, and your next attack will be a low overhead not sure why you'd wanna cancel the pull but you can
@@icegawdI was going to say it but you beat me to it. Thanks! That’s why I didn’t mention it. I used to do this in my 2nd spiderman guide and got killed so many times by doing that exact combo. The jump doesn’t cancel the cc. Bonus tip for you as well. If you do it off the bhop it cc’s them a little longer
dont they have enough time to get out cause overhead takes forever to land? wow i've been messing around and thanks to one of your previous videos i've discovered a combo that animation cancels "get over here" pull uppercut animation without F by using Shift into Right click, and also cancel F animation. Doing this provides very fast chip dmg instantly after E dmg animation starts (E still does dmg) before using F. After F we can do the same animation cancel (which is the only way to cancel F animation to instantly do dmg, except team up ability?) with Shift + Right click into another Right click to finish them off ( Left click becomes a slow overhead)
maybe it's a controller thing, but in the video the enemy always stays still to land the overhead, but whenever I try it, it always walks away and the hit misses
Zooko I got a question for you. The more spider-man I play, lab, and watch from your videos and others the more I realize that the E is your real win condition in almost all engagements when used correctly. However I believe there is value in it being a chase as well, considering you don't have to aim and it's locked on. In situations where you pick fights with characters with mobility, I have had plays where I sneak up on Raccoon and I land a tracer, into overheard upper cut, into another tracer before they can dash and as soon as they dash, the E gives me the win condition, especially because I'm able to do more damage through healing considering im able to land two uppercuts in this scenario after chasing with the E. My question is how do you then balance using the E, is this the most important aspect of playing spider-man, or would you recommend just playing it safe and using the E as a pull to ensure positional advantage?
1. Be honest with what you’re able to pull off skill wise. (If you have to use it to secure kills that’s always more important) however, using your bhop is how you should chase targets and hit them with your uppercut. Now if you missed that sequence wait a second then use your E to chase to still win the attempt at trying to chase with bhop. I’ll also use it when someone is trying to hide behind cover or a closed in room. I’ll bhop to where my e can zoom me to them so they can’t escape. So yes there are scenarios where it’s important. I just don’t use it as my go to combo starter zooming to them. I only bhop engage, aerial engage and pull now unless I made 2 misses in movement and need to secure the kill
@@fredrodri how is hitting a cc grapple risky? Is it the fact that you have to aim? … An ability?That’s literally what Bucky does but you have a shorter cooldown and the longest range for cc with Spider-Man?
It's more risky to try land the E and potentially miss and have to wait for the cooldown vs trying to land a regular web shot and potentially miss but still have four more shots to try with. Not the craziest risk by any means since you still have escape options, but you are potentially not able to help your team at the right moment because of the risk. I think if your team is doing a coordinated push all at once, it's better to shoot a web shot first and zip in. If you are just looking for an opening on your own, it's probably better to do the E first and pull the enemy.
@@Duke_Exeterthis makes zero sense to me. How is a 6s cooldown a risk. That’s spam abilities. You are using nothing except your e and free-form combos in the safety of your positioning of your team. Even if you dive behind and dive back into team for pull it’s still safe. There’s no risk. And webs are never something that someone should ever run out of if so. They probably can’t aim. The only risk spider takes is grappling toward his target. Puts him in bad positioning. And puts him in cc range. This doesn’t even use resources like that. At the end of each chain the cooldown is at 4s so i don’t follow what you’re talking about.
1. I did not realize E was only a six second cooldown. That makes the risk smaller than I realized, though I do think that can add up quick if enemies are really squirrelly and you miss your E twice in a row. 2. I think you misunderstood my original comment regarding regular web shots. I was making the point that they are a less risky opener because you have so many that you will probably never run out (and E is guaranteed to land after you land a web shot). In your reply, however, you say no one should ever run out of webs as if that is something we disagree on.
It is good combo but risky. However, it's worth to get enemy out of the point. Edit: Nvm, the jumping over to the other side of the enemy view kinda helps u survive better.
@@rikuclad1264 so you’ve been doing all of this day one? Why don’t you make videos then? Could have helped me out Bruhh😂😂 and you learned my optimal combo too with all the animation cancels too? And you knew double jump doesn’t cancel pull cc allowing you to bring them higher and negate a counter and guarantee the combo too? Which is exactly what counters EVERY TOP 500 belief that he’s easily picked off after pull or grappling towards with their cc because if you stay grounded for combos you die instantly! You had the tech DAY ONE? Shiiiii. You knew about the dmg stack too? Shiiiii brother you should be a YTber. I’d subscribe. Shi if you’ve been doing this DAY ONE I want your gameplay to learn from while I’m waiting for my 100 ping to go to 40 when Marvel Rivals decides to upgrade their servers. Shiii I need you to upload all the new tech you have THREE WEEKS after day one too. You had to have grown so much in spiderman. Matter of fact tell me all that you do on spiderman now so I can go in the lab. I’m sure you climbed to Eternity now because this tech makes spiderman completely safe without extension and the ability to secure picks with the optimal dmg combo. I need you to show me your ways
You guys are extremely slow with your tests and think basic tech is ground breaking, I have clips of day one labbin which I shared to discord doing everything in this video. Why would jumping cancel the pull? We already knew it didn't from pulling tanks and sups off map which again is all day one shit. Do you even know about infinite jump yet? Probably not. Didn't mean to hurt your ego but nothing you've posted is ground breaking or new.
Bummer i know for sure you're not the first one to find this because i remember watching someone else do the exact same demonstration on RUclips I didn't save the video because it seemed too niche but i shoulda lol but i do think that hook spider-man is the future EVERYONE complains that Spider-Man gets wrecked by healing, but what if there was no healing? what if you pulled them behind a wall and then you could just unleash a full combo WITH your backline to assist you with extra damage and pocket? it just seems like a much better result with the trade off that GASP you actually have to aim??? lol thanks for popularizing it anyway the og video posters didn't get famous enough so L on them lmao
@@NonJohns I am the first. I watch all the mid guides and mid gameplays. No one is doing this. Not a single soul. Sure people could be doing hook combos I was doing that too day one. But if you stay grounded you die to your counters. So it doesn’t work especially when they have healing being done. And no one has my optimals on spider from the hook leading into Freeforms. Not that it matters but yes hook is undoubtedly the meta way to play spider
@@icegawd I just watched all your spider videos. You’re doing a good job man. You did a hook combo from uppercut into punch. You gotta jump or they cc you. But you already know that by now. I like your style too. Get a mic, put a little more into your videos and you’ll get more views. I started off with just txt and gameplay too in naraka. You’ll get there if you want to
Forgive my wallcrawler ignorance but I was messing around in the lab and pull-web at almost the same time followed by punch-web-shorrrrryuken once they’re on you seemed like a hella easy, hella quick combo that kills a 300 healther (plus you could go into more airborne crap from there). Is it escapable or something and that’s why it’s better to incorporate jumps earlier? Genuinely unsure if good or bad. Great guides btw!
You’ll break cc and they’ll counter you and you need to break LoS so no. Do it with the movement I advised. It’s the safest and most optimal path for you to practice that will give you the best results in game
@@silverkoffee I’ll just hope my actual good spiderman icegawd finds your comment to explain it to you bc I’m no longer entertaining people who don’t pay attention
The tech you showed in one of your older videos why do you animation cancel out of L shift to your web tracers is it faster or something genuine question
@@danilazils2677 nope I just don’t let ignorant negative or smartasses who’re not showing brainpower sit on my channel. And I don’t delete comments. I delete people from all their responses ever being shown on my channel again. Why? you insecure your passive aggressive nature gonna get you the same treatment? And you won’t be able to get any joy anymore out of being Karens. Ignorant loud entitled and uncoachable I understand these people seek a reaction a response or importance because they need to finally feel something. No im going to delete all your possible joy or ego you can get after I correct you. Which is me hiding all your future comments from my channel. I don’t even like comments but it’s good for engagement so I keep it but if someone speaks in ignorance or has a dumb way of making comments. You don’t deserve to be seen in my channel ever again. One time is enough. I have that list over 300 deep now. But if you can talk nicely, formulate a comprehensive sentence with actual points to whatever your debate is. I’ll leave it. As you’ll see in my chats of videos. But the moment theyre ugly, ignorant, or egotistical, I click the button. You don’t belong here. I can only behave in ways to people that they behave to me. So for my own sanity I must not see their comment. Because I don’t entertain toxic. Like that “you insecure” part you get me. So yk what this means buddy. You’ll be joining the list. But I’ll let it sit for 1 more day so people can see I don’t play around with that shii. I’m a grown man. Talk with respect bc irl no one behaves that way. The best part is they can comment like and dislike and no one sees it. Not even me. Poof no one sees your toxicity. No one will give you attention you crave
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That's actually sick, I've also reshaped my playstyle with Spidey to be more disruptor like rather than trying to assasinate target in the back since its so hard to do that without dying right now, so pulling targets into your team when you have hook then flying around throwing uppercuts to disrupt fights seems more viable. This tech is definitely gonna improve this play style so thanks a lot
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tracer grapple (they come to you) jump webswing tracer overhead uppercut
You can put a tracer on then right before the E and it would still work, you just have to do it at almost the same time. If you use a normal punch like this you can still do over 300 dmg and it is faster. It would be Right-click + E + Left-click + Right-click + F + L shift+ Right click. I haven't properly checked but I think the enemy only has about half a second during which they can react before dying, once they have already been hit by E
Yeah I did that in my videos 5 days ago but it’s easier to focus on hitting the e since the tracer in this sequence is guaranteed in the same spot so you don’t need to aim and you’d need to still jump anyway to not end the cc of the pull so it holds the whole duration of stun which is what I was missing before when I canceled into lshift tracer.
Edit: question when you’re saying left click after the E. Are you staying grounded or still jumping. If so you’d get cc by all of your old counters. You have to break LoS
I'm a Mantis main, I'll probably never play Spiderman but I love watching your videos about him (and other heros). It would be super cool to have a Mantis in depht guide like you did with Loki :)
Oh it’s coming I got some TECH FOR HER! Be ready. She is my fav support to play.
@@z00ko Lfg!!
the one disadvantage for this combo is you will need to be grounded, other than that its a pretty dope combo
im pretty sure if your in the air already you can plink and still do an overhead even if you already double jumped but im not sure if it works with both types of plinks or only one
It can be done in the air if you have a high momentum starting above the enemy
@@TeCeeBoiyou don't need to Plink, if you do it with a high momentum you'll drag them for a long duration allowing you to setup the overhead into Tracer and then an Uppercut (even if you used the upper earlier). I got examples of it in some of my videos :)
@@icegawd that would bring them in air and then follow up uppercut won't be possible right?
You don’t need to be grounded at all.
Can you show us a high air version of the combo if we pull them while in the sky?
Great vids, I like basic guides as a new player, but these advanced tech guides are what is gonna push me to the next level. Do you have a bhop guide for spidey?
not sure if this is known yet but you can use the web grapple for the bhop instead of the sticky. i was able to pull enemies over 30m
Would love to see you post spidey gameplayyy just raw footage doing your different techs. Would be very cool
Comin soon when my ping gets better
i really like the bring towards into jump webshot! nice finds!
Makes WAYYY more sense to pull with e
Additional very minor thing, you can cancel the pull in with a webswing, insta cancel into cluster, jump, and your next attack will be a low overhead
not sure why you'd wanna cancel the pull but you can
its that ffame long plink if you wanted the funny name for it
Don't cancel the pull, you drop the CC's state of it which is super important for your survival! :)
@@icegawdI was going to say it but you beat me to it. Thanks! That’s why I didn’t mention it. I used to do this in my 2nd spiderman guide and got killed so many times by doing that exact combo. The jump doesn’t cancel the cc.
Bonus tip for you as well. If you do it off the bhop it cc’s them a little longer
@@z00ko Thanks for the tip, I showed this in my video also :D
You have the best advanced Rivals tech bro. Thx so much for sharing. This is groundbreaking!
dont they have enough time to get out cause overhead takes forever to land?
wow i've been messing around and thanks to one of your previous videos i've discovered a combo that animation cancels "get over here" pull uppercut animation without F by using Shift into Right click, and also cancel F animation. Doing this provides very fast chip dmg instantly after E dmg animation starts (E still does dmg) before using F. After F we can do the same animation cancel (which is the only way to cancel F animation to instantly do dmg, except team up ability?) with Shift + Right click into another Right click to finish them off ( Left click becomes a slow overhead)
Intresting, ty for the content. I'll look it up in the lab.
that's what I like to hear
maybe it's a controller thing, but in the video the enemy always stays still to land the overhead, but whenever I try it, it always walks away and the hit misses
Zooko I got a question for you. The more spider-man I play, lab, and watch from your videos and others the more I realize that the E is your real win condition in almost all engagements when used correctly. However I believe there is value in it being a chase as well, considering you don't have to aim and it's locked on. In situations where you pick fights with characters with mobility, I have had plays where I sneak up on Raccoon and I land a tracer, into overheard upper cut, into another tracer before they can dash and as soon as they dash, the E gives me the win condition, especially because I'm able to do more damage through healing considering im able to land two uppercuts in this scenario after chasing with the E. My question is how do you then balance using the E, is this the most important aspect of playing spider-man, or would you recommend just playing it safe and using the E as a pull to ensure positional advantage?
1. Be honest with what you’re able to pull off skill wise. (If you have to use it to secure kills that’s always more important) however, using your bhop is how you should chase targets and hit them with your uppercut. Now if you missed that sequence wait a second then use your E to chase to still win the attempt at trying to chase with bhop. I’ll also use it when someone is trying to hide behind cover or a closed in room. I’ll bhop to where my e can zoom me to them so they can’t escape. So yes there are scenarios where it’s important.
I just don’t use it as my go to combo starter zooming to them. I only bhop engage, aerial engage and pull now unless I made 2 misses in movement and need to secure the kill
what does the lshift used for, is it a cancel?
Yes
Its a good combo but kind risky, cause u need to hit E and enemies never be immobile like the bots, but its good to test if its viable
@@fredrodri how is hitting a cc grapple risky? Is it the fact that you have to aim? … An ability?That’s literally what Bucky does but you have a shorter cooldown and the longest range for cc with Spider-Man?
It's more risky to try land the E and potentially miss and have to wait for the cooldown vs trying to land a regular web shot and potentially miss but still have four more shots to try with.
Not the craziest risk by any means since you still have escape options, but you are potentially not able to help your team at the right moment because of the risk.
I think if your team is doing a coordinated push all at once, it's better to shoot a web shot first and zip in. If you are just looking for an opening on your own, it's probably better to do the E first and pull the enemy.
@@Duke_Exeterthis makes zero sense to me.
How is a 6s cooldown a risk. That’s spam abilities.
You are using nothing except your e and free-form combos in the safety of your positioning of your team. Even if you dive behind and dive back into team for pull it’s still safe. There’s no risk. And webs are never something that someone should ever run out of if so. They probably can’t aim. The only risk spider takes is grappling toward his target. Puts him in bad positioning. And puts him in cc range. This doesn’t even use resources like that. At the end of each chain the cooldown is at 4s so i don’t follow what you’re talking about.
1. I did not realize E was only a six second cooldown. That makes the risk smaller than I realized, though I do think that can add up quick if enemies are really squirrelly and you miss your E twice in a row.
2. I think you misunderstood my original comment regarding regular web shots. I was making the point that they are a less risky opener because you have so many that you will probably never run out (and E is guaranteed to land after you land a web shot). In your reply, however, you say no one should ever run out of webs as if that is something we disagree on.
web - grab - web - double jump - overhead - uppercut (about 250 dm and I think it's faster)
It is good combo but risky. However, it's worth to get enemy out of the point.
Edit: Nvm, the jumping over to the other side of the enemy view kinda helps u survive better.
At the end of the video I want you to see how long they are cc’d before they can input anything. That’s why I added it in
Pretty cool .. ill try it out
This isn't new tech unfortunately, been doing it since day one.
@@rikuclad1264 so you’ve been doing all of this day one? Why don’t you make videos then? Could have helped me out Bruhh😂😂 and you learned my optimal combo too with all the animation cancels too? And you knew double jump doesn’t cancel pull cc allowing you to bring them higher and negate a counter and guarantee the combo too? Which is exactly what counters EVERY TOP 500 belief that he’s easily picked off after pull or grappling towards with their cc because if you stay grounded for combos you die instantly! You had the tech DAY ONE? Shiiiii. You knew about the dmg stack too? Shiiiii brother you should be a YTber. I’d subscribe. Shi if you’ve been doing this DAY ONE I want your gameplay to learn from while I’m waiting for my 100 ping to go to 40 when Marvel Rivals decides to upgrade their servers. Shiii I need you to upload all the new tech you have THREE WEEKS after day one too. You had to have grown so much in spiderman. Matter of fact tell me all that you do on spiderman now so I can go in the lab. I’m sure you climbed to Eternity now because this tech makes spiderman completely safe without extension and the ability to secure picks with the optimal dmg combo. I need you to show me your ways
@@z00ko wow the greatest spidey around just lurking in the comments, how blessed are we?
@@z00ko He is the Spiderman GOD, i played once with him he was at enemy spawn killing everyone while we were sitting at the point without enemies
You guys are extremely slow with your tests and think basic tech is ground breaking, I have clips of day one labbin which I shared to discord doing everything in this video.
Why would jumping cancel the pull? We already knew it didn't from pulling tanks and sups off map which again is all day one shit.
Do you even know about infinite jump yet? Probably not.
Didn't mean to hurt your ego but nothing you've posted is ground breaking or new.
@@rikuclad1264 Yeah tell him rikuclad, we still thankful for the sharing of basic tech to the new spiders out there tho
Bummer
i know for sure you're not the first one to find this because i remember watching someone else do the exact same demonstration on RUclips
I didn't save the video because it seemed too niche but i shoulda lol
but i do think that hook spider-man is the future
EVERYONE complains that Spider-Man gets wrecked by healing, but what if there was no healing?
what if you pulled them behind a wall and then you could just unleash a full combo WITH your backline to assist you with extra damage and pocket?
it just seems like a much better result with the trade off that GASP you actually have to aim???
lol
thanks for popularizing it anyway
the og video posters didn't get famous enough so L on them lmao
Haha probably me, I posted this two weeks ago and I'm a nobody when it comes to followers :P
@@NonJohns I am the first. I watch all the mid guides and mid gameplays. No one is doing this. Not a single soul. Sure people could be doing hook combos I was doing that too day one. But if you stay grounded you die to your counters. So it doesn’t work especially when they have healing being done. And no one has my optimals on spider from the hook leading into Freeforms. Not that it matters but yes hook is undoubtedly the meta way to play spider
@@icegawd I just watched all your spider videos. You’re doing a good job man. You did a hook combo from uppercut into punch. You gotta jump or they cc you. But you already know that by now. I like your style too. Get a mic, put a little more into your videos and you’ll get more views. I started off with just txt and gameplay too in naraka. You’ll get there if you want to
@@z00ko I'm not doubting your work ethic
I just know I saw a video on the extended grapple before this one
no dish on your flow I'm just saying
@@z00ko Got a fresh video for you today that you might like ;P
Forgive my wallcrawler ignorance but I was messing around in the lab and pull-web at almost the same time followed by punch-web-shorrrrryuken once they’re on you seemed like a hella easy, hella quick combo that kills a 300 healther (plus you could go into more airborne crap from there). Is it escapable or something and that’s why it’s better to incorporate jumps earlier? Genuinely unsure if good or bad. Great guides btw!
You’ll break cc and they’ll counter you and you need to break LoS so no. Do it with the movement I advised. It’s the safest and most optimal path for you to practice that will give you the best results in game
I cant figure out what this tech is. Like what about this is even new tech???
@@silverkoffee I’ll just hope my actual good spiderman icegawd finds your comment to explain it to you bc I’m no longer entertaining people who don’t pay attention
Name it
The tech you showed in one of your older videos why do you animation cancel out of L shift to your web tracers is it faster or something genuine question
You need L shift to animation cancel the uppercut, just the web shooting doesn't cancel it. So yeah, it's faster
@ bet I thought it was supposed to be faster than spamming web clusters thanks
Why u deleting comments, bro? U insecure? 😂
@@danilazils2677 nope I just don’t let ignorant negative or smartasses who’re not showing brainpower sit on my channel. And I don’t delete comments. I delete people from all their responses ever being shown on my channel again. Why? you insecure your passive aggressive nature gonna get you the same treatment? And you won’t be able to get any joy anymore out of being Karens. Ignorant loud entitled and uncoachable
I understand these people seek a reaction a response or importance because they need to finally feel something. No im going to delete all your possible joy or ego you can get after I correct you. Which is me hiding all your future comments from my channel. I don’t even like comments but it’s good for engagement so I keep it but if someone speaks in ignorance or has a dumb way of making comments. You don’t deserve to be seen in my channel ever again. One time is enough. I have that list over 300 deep now.
But if you can talk nicely, formulate a comprehensive sentence with actual points to whatever your debate is. I’ll leave it. As you’ll see in my chats of videos. But the moment theyre ugly, ignorant, or egotistical, I click the button. You don’t belong here. I can only behave in ways to people that they behave to me. So for my own sanity I must not see their comment. Because I don’t entertain toxic. Like that “you insecure” part you get me. So yk what this means buddy. You’ll be joining the list. But I’ll let it sit for 1 more day so people can see I don’t play around with that shii. I’m a grown man. Talk with respect bc irl no one behaves that way.
The best part is they can comment like and dislike and no one sees it. Not even me. Poof no one sees your toxicity. No one will give you attention you crave