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fYI on the coverage map app when doing a speed test Verizon is cheating by giving priority to your speed test vs others. I get zero data when trying to load a web page or using OOKla but when using the speediest on your app it'll be 1-3 mbps. just something to look into because carriers shouldn't be cheating the system like this.
Once you have 3+ lines, in most scenarios having a postpaid plan makes sense. Since you qualify for rate plan discounts that prepaid plans may not offer. Example: I have 3 Lines on Verizon. (Work, Personal, and Family use) With 3 Lines plus a $30 Autopay Discount, I also was blessed by Verizon to receive a $25 Plan Discount for the perpetuity of the plan on top of that for having 3 Lines. Making it more feasible to stay on Postpaid. For now.
Most people choose the cheapest plan, makes sense it’s the worst value. It’s risky if the customer is in an area where priority matters and they experience poor service, but I would guess the companies feel they can upsell at that point. And if you got a phone you’re paying off over 3 years, it might seem too inconvenient to leave when the time comes.
I have been using US Mobile for 2 1/2 years and it is not deprioritized if using a 5G phone and the Verizon network. Had Verizon postpaid for almost 23 years straight and got tired of the no deals for you unless you add a new line or go with the most expensive unlimited plan. Cut my bill by over 2/3 with no change in service. Saved even more this year when USM rolled out the yearly plans. The savings more than pay for new phones when we want them.
Most of the carriers have more than one level of priority. It is never just de prioritized or not de prioritized. Let's pretend there are five levels verizon will slow down people in level 5 first which would be the cheapest plans, then as the tower gets busier they slow down level 4 and then 3 and then 2 and then 1 only if they have too, so it may say de prioritized but you might be on level 2 on the 60 dollar plan. And depending on your area, you may never see any data slow downs.
@topgunatv so technically when you get deprioritized it's because you're in a very densely populated area. Basically unless you're in a major city like newyork city, or are at a packed sporting event, you probably won't get deprioritized where you would notice it.
What you are forgetting is that the company that owns the cell tower will give network priority to their main customers over the secondary networks. For example if you live in an area with very few cell towers the main carrier will reduce network capacity and capability to the secondary customers giving them slower speeds or drop calls.
What you mentioned about dropping calls is completely inaccurate. Being deprioritized will not result in calls dropping. Also, as far as real world use, anything around 30Mbps and above on a smartphone provides basically the same user experience unless you're downloading large files. Whether it actually affects the user experience hinges on whether the network is congested enough that deprioritized users are getting slow speeds, say 10Mbps and under, and that's pretty uncommon nowadays.
@@deyeatdapoopoo7582 The main issue with deprioritizarion is network latency and dropped packets. During a recent trip, I tried using an esim service, which i believe operates a way similar to MVNOs, and consistently measured upwards of 30% packet loss and latency of at minimum 300ms. Speedtest showed 25mbps, but i could barely use any social media app as images would fail to load and chat messages were insanely delayed. I think the esim company definitely oversold on their allocated bandwidth, and switching to a different one instantly solved my issues. Both companies used the same underlying company for coverage, one was just super deprioritized. goes to show that mbps is not a super accurate way to measure how useable a carrier is and deprioritization can have super noticeable effects.
I moved to visible from at&t in a semi rural area where ATT coverage was lackluster. I have loved my move to visible. Coverage has been great, speeds are great, and cant beat the price.
Only problem I ever had was when I'm in super dense places like theme parks. Also love Visible. I tell my friends and family but they don't believe it can be that good.
@Claroboy911 Yes. Never really needed it though. It is funny that the one advantage verizon had, premium data, isn't even on their lower plans anymore. So now their budget plans are just straight up worse than budget carriers.
@@CTD_Roblox.By-Beansdoes Verizon have good coverage in your area? If so it should be fast. I usually get 10-25mbps on LTE with Visible. Only super rare occasions I notice the deprioritized data (I.e concerts, sports)
On Visible, at home I get 150 to over 200mb 4g. In town at work I get from 3 to 18mb, which is not so good but I can still stream with our buffering. I guess more users in the city where I work.
LOL I’ve been on visible for like a year and you’re full of it. It is not better than my old T-Mobile plan. When I need internet anywhere other than my home it moves at a snails pace.
Stetson Doggett is my GO TO for all things cellular! No other is even close in explaining the ways and means of the cell world. Keep up the good work Stetson!
You produce very good videos but this one was excellent and you made it so SIMPLE to understand. I just switched from Page Plus over to Visible + for one year. Didn't even have to change my voice mail pin or message. Thanks again for the short and to the point educational video !!
I can't say enough just how much Visible has helped me since 2020 in order to afford not only my phone but my parents phones as well! if it wasnt for them i would be spending $150 but only spend $75 covering 3 phones and it honestly feels great that i can do that for my parents and not have to shell out a fortune for unlimited data since they live in an area where internet service isnt available!!!!
I love Visible. For my line and my husband's line, we only pay $50.00 a month total. I live in the country and we never had an issue. We have been with them for almost two years.
I’ve never understood why Phone and Internet plans are SO expensive in the US. I pay £21 a month for Unlimited calls, texts, and minutes for my phone. And £29 a month for 1Gig internet like to my house. For the price of either one of those in the US, I’m getting both 🤷♂️
What you guys are forgetting. The U.S. is vast with different terrains. New Mexico alone is about the size of Italy and UK. It's easier to paint a bedroom, compared to an entire condo complex. However, not defending the carriers, they're greedy, too.
I'm paying $30 for 10Gbps unlimited internet in the San Francisco Bay Area, but that's through a local internet company. Several cities around the internet have cheap local providers for internet - it's not very widespread yet though.
@@cupidok2768 Yes, no need for premium unless you go to concerts or other super busy events. I use hundreds of gigs per month and get about 500 down 100 up on a normal day.
Ain’t this true lmao. I remember when I was trying to move to another carrier, the current company was harassing me with deals. When I finally moved to another company, the customer service agents of the new company started bothering me with subscriptions plans. Mainly because they make money from selling internet & TV plans.
Biggest oversight on this is that the premium plans are offering substantial discounts on cell phones with trade ins and the higher costs are in part used to offset. If you’re not upgrading frequently, you’re paying for something you aren’t taking advantage of.
I'm dual siming visible and tmobile. I really like visible. No issues at all. tmobile fell on it's face in remote Arizona and visible worked perfect. Might consider dropping tmobile soon. Especially hearing the rumors of tmobile increasing legacy plans 5 dollars per line.
I used Visible's base plan. Pre paid for one year. 22.50/month. Unlimited data, tethering, text, minutes, etc etc. never had an issue with it. Never been deprioritized either. #NotAnAd
I'm a Flanker customer, i prefer to keep my flanks in my money market accounts rather than a corporation's profit margin. Prepaid customers are supposed to be poor and have crappy credit. ok
I have Visible so I'm also a Flanker. If US Mobile had a longer deal of getting there starter for 23 dollars I would switch. But sense I'm paying 35 a month right now with Visible and it's 29 dollars the six dollar difference is not enough for me to switch.
I’m millionaire and I have been using prepaid wireless services for over 10 years now. A 80-100 bucks a month plan is beyond insane. The only negative thing about prepaid service is the customer support.
@@Brandon_letsgoand that’s partly why you are a millionaire. I still can’t understand why people choose to pay so much more for their service. I presume it has a lot to do with people not being able or willing to put $900 down on a new phone when they want/need to upgrade. But even then Apple lets you finance a new phone at 0% so you’re still making out going to a low cost carrier…
I would love to see coverage maps for commutes. I’m constantly losing signal on my commute and would love to know which carrier would be best so I don’t lose coverage.
I am Korean and I use Seven Mobile, an MVNO of SKT Korea. The unlimited data plan is $15. If I use a regular carrier, it would be $70 or more. I love it!
I love to hear it! You’re saving so much money. Also, would you be able to do me a favor? If you could run a speed test on the Ookla Speedtest app and email the CSV file of the result to hello@coveragemap.com, that would be tremendously helpful! We are looking to expand to support other countries, and we want to see a sample of how some of the data is formatted.
wait so if a MNO has a flanker brand. then how will a separate MVNO compete if they are buying it wholesale directly from the MNO? wont the MNO's flanker brand always beat the prices given by a outside MVNO?
In the US, the 3 main carriers offer $800-$1k discounts on phones, paid out over 2-3 years. Also, family plans (4+) are very competitive, better than prepaid
Would have loved to learn more about why they can offer cheap plans. Bundling doesn’t really do much, it’s not like they’re bulk ordering physical product? What about deprioritization or anything else I can’t think of because I’m unaware?
I jave had Visible for years. I almost quit them when my son went to college two states away. He had zero service for at least half of his 5.5 hour drive to school. While i had great service in my area, there were some completely dead rural areas where i had work contracts. As we were having conversations about switching providers, suddenly one day it was as if visible flipped a switch and all of those areas were suddenly covered. I assume they reached an agreement with another cell provider at the time. Most likely us cellular.
I have US Mobile (TMobile) coming from TMobile postpaid and I haven’t noticed any difference. Went from $165/month 2 phones & 2 watches to $90/month for 2 phones on their unlimited premium plan.
The mobile plan price in the US are wild! Internet is way cheaper here in Italy. For a gigabit connection at your home you pay 26 euros on average and for your mobile plan you can pay 8 euros to get up to 200 gb of data per month.
That is because the US supports basically the entire world’s internet in some way. Either through laying fiber in the ocean, satellites, HUGE internet exchange locations like Seattle, funding groups that produce internet standards, and way way more. The cost are mostly absorbed by the local customers and are rarely passed on to regional international customers. Your ISP likely has to invest nothing in comparison and mostly pays for running fiber and a relatively small amount of licensing fees to US based companies for use of their backbone. Even non-US based Tier 1 providers receive a large amount of funding through the US in some way.
It’s the same here in Canada but worse, when they try to make it look like completion is happening, when it’s really not. North America pays so much for cellular plans. Even more in Canada.
I am an old tech guy (I spent my last 12 years in the military in computers, technology and computer, security and networks ) so I am already aware of this information but I forwarded to some of my Retired friends and a cousins text group that I’m on. I hope they find it helpful.
One thing to keep in mind though with the smaller NVMOs is outside of Mexico and Canada most may not have international roaming meaning if you travel a lot internationally or do curises and pay for the insanely expensive cruise ship cell service you won't have that option. Another thing to note is the device selection maybe not as varied as what you would get from AT&t Verizon and T-Mobile and most don't finance the devices. But then again you're just better off buying directly from the manufacturer anyways especially if you happen to like Apple or Samsung
After T-Mobile acquired Sprint our bill for unlimited went from 99$ a month (been a customer with sprint for over 20 years) for 5 lines to 370$ a month. Ended up going to AT&T as we were offered to switch over for just 175$ a month for 5 lines and phone upgrades which I passed on. Definitely feels a lot better with those savings.
Mint mobile was pretty good when it was new. Over time the coverage and service seems to be getting worse. It has lefts without service for days at a time when traveling and as I write this I barely have one bar of service in a major metro area (at home). I didn’t have this problem with Verizon or AT&T. When my pre paid year is up it will be time to seek out better service. What good is saving a few bucks if you literally don’t have service in your own home or you risk getting stranded somewhere with no way to communicate.
@@Brisingr73 mint is now owned by T mobile and always used the T mobile network. Two years ago I had excellent service in my local area. Now I barely get a single bar anywhere I go.
ive gone through metro, boost, att, tmobile, straight talk, fi, and now visible. visible has been the cheapest and best. no data caps or hotspot limit aside from speed, but still the best. Prioritized data does suck when data traffic is high, but thats something i can deal with.
Visible and verizon calculate which customers will be de prioritized next based on the availability of capacity of each individual band a tower is using. So if your data is constantly slow, you can often speed it up by disabling whichever band they are slowing down.
@@MegaLokopo typically I have really high speed data. Only time it has over slowed down to prioritize regular Verizon. Customers was when power went out for half Of the local city so everybody was on their phones. Still had data just very slow. After that it was fine
@@edms3656 Yea, I love visible I use hundreds of gigs a month and like you said, I never see slow data unless there is a good reason, but that is the advantage of living in a large city.
I see the prices paid for various verizon plans where I work. Like shoveling money into a pit. Stupid high prices. I pay $15 month for 5 gig plan with Mint
The recent verizon crash left me stranded in Mexico, while working. I had to find a computer and "get" another carrier to continue on with my day and get home. It left me thinking that I really should have some redundancy. What is the best way to add a data only line to a phone that basically works as backup if my carrier fails?
We have metro PCs. We pay $135 for 5 lines. Our 5G is capped but honestly 4G is good enough and many times we are on WiFi at home or work. Call and txt service work great
Used to love visible some how here in PA where i live they wont send me a simcard,they send it but the fedex they are sending the sim to is close crazy times with life in,thinking on another way to get a simcard and be able to keep my verizon phone number.
Visible is far better. The worst thing of mint that holds it back is even on the "unlimited" plan if you go past the data limit which is 30 gigs, they slow you down to 2g speeds which are about 256 or 512 mbps depending on your device. Which is slow enough that most websites even text only websites will time out. So the data is only technically unlimited.
I just recently switched. I was paying almost $90 a month for AT&T. Now I’m paying $25 with boost infinite. Coverage and data speed are fine. My only regret is not switching sooner.
I TRULY am THANKFUL that you can break down some things that 'sound like GREEK to me' (no offense to the GREEK-SPEAKERS out there), so that, I can make an INFORMED decision about the mobile plans out there. Again, THANK YOU! 😊 😊😊
Excellent video. It's really amazing to see how the mobile carrier industry has changed over the past decade. I remember when AT&T would be very stingy/restrictive about the MVNOs they allow on their network, and now they are going to be US Mobile's third carrier, which I think is crazy. There is obviously a shift towards making the MNOs increasingly "premium" brands with more bells and whistles (like free Latin America roaming, more hotspot data, and other perks) while leaving the rest of the market to prepaid brands and MVNOs.
@Oldasianguy that's still a far cry from the days where the only AT&T MVNO was H20 wireless that gave you 1GB of data on AT&T's LTE network for like $50.
Switched to visible and had no issues leaving Verizon. My other half, unfortunately, switched and can no longer send or receive MMS from non-Apple users. We’ve gone thru their support multiple times, reset settings, checked cellular and other iOS settings and e-sims multiple times - still no good. Outside of wiping the phone completely and setting it up as a new phone, we’re stuck. Anyone have any suggestions to restore MMS function for an iPhone 13 Pro - previously on Verizon with zero issues?
Honestly, they should seriously consider an Android and ditching Apple. I highly recommend PIXEL, Samsung, Motorola, or OnePlus. Get rid of your Apple 🍎 and you'll be happier.
Hey Stetson... I have some possible content for you. If you've already done this, can you link it for me so I can watch your take on it? Anyways, we have AT&T and it's expensive. We are paying on some of our devices as well. I really want to get us into a quality provider with a MORE reliable network. Denver area has been rough, lots of dropped calls, sudden silence, crappy speeds, etc. However, I need a provider that lets us have international calling and messaging because my wife's family is all in Mexico and we travel there yearly. What do you suggest for an Apple user family (MacBook, iPhone 14 ProMax and 15 Pro, Apple Watch series 7 (man and woman), iPhone 14 Pro, iPhone 14, iPad Gen 9).
Xfinity and Spectrum mobile are the leaders for MNVO and for the future potentially. Their hotspots save them so much money. I have unlimited data and pay $29.99 and use like 2GB a month cause places I go have an xfinity or spectrum internet routers which has a hotspot built in. Hence saving them on the data they bought in bulk and then they give someone else my data and free data for a year. So it adds up. Hence how Mint does their discounts for new customers.
If you frequently go to very busy places and must have fast data no matter how busy it gets, paying for the MNO plans makes a lot of sense. I had magenta max for a while, and never saw slow speeds, and I was able to run my home internet off of it through hotspot.
Boost infinite is postpaid actually, not mvno. They have their own towers although do have some roaming agreements when out of range of their network. (given saw it listed in mvno.) they're the only other nation wide carrier left besides big 3. Least since T mobile is now trying to eat US Cellular.
I feel like that coverage app you mentioned is completely bogus, I had AT&T here in Omaha, and it’s awful. Absolutely zero coverage anywhere and yet the app says it’s the best one for my area when Verizon is really the best one in my area.
I switched from Visible to US Mobile a few years ago. US Mobile has been awesome and they finally have Apple Watch support. Visible had too many technical issues.
It's a similar story with the pricing model of international airlines. They make a lot more money per unit of space on first and business class than economy class, so that's what they prefer to sell. They know, however, that there isn't enough demand to completely fill a plane with premium customers, so they put economy class in the remaining space so they can fill it up.
@@Cruxis_Angel Im in the middle of Nowhere Ohio. So I'm hoping it works out, I thought about doing Mint. But I figured 15 free days can't hurt to test it out
Love your videos, however, my gf decided to try out the us mobile plan with 35GB high priority data on the Verizon network. I’m on Verizon and in no way does she have the speeds I do. It’s abysmally slower yet using same network
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fYI on the coverage map app when doing a speed test Verizon is cheating by giving priority to your speed test vs others. I get zero data when trying to load a web page or using OOKla but when using the speediest on your app it'll be 1-3 mbps. just something to look into because carriers shouldn't be cheating the system like this.
You think cellphone plans in the states are expensive? You should come to canada lpl
I think it's a bit ridiculous that you're paying over $60 for the At&t and Verizon starter plans and those are still deprioritized?!
Once you have 3+ lines, in most scenarios having a postpaid plan makes sense. Since you qualify for rate plan discounts that prepaid plans may not offer.
Example: I have 3 Lines on Verizon. (Work, Personal, and Family use) With 3 Lines plus a $30 Autopay Discount, I also was blessed by Verizon to receive a $25 Plan Discount for the perpetuity of the plan on top of that for having 3 Lines. Making it more feasible to stay on Postpaid. For now.
Most people choose the cheapest plan, makes sense it’s the worst value. It’s risky if the customer is in an area where priority matters and they experience poor service, but I would guess the companies feel they can upsell at that point. And if you got a phone you’re paying off over 3 years, it might seem too inconvenient to leave when the time comes.
I have been using US Mobile for 2 1/2 years and it is not deprioritized if using a 5G phone and the Verizon network. Had Verizon postpaid for almost 23 years straight and got tired of the no deals for you unless you add a new line or go with the most expensive unlimited plan. Cut my bill by over 2/3 with no change in service. Saved even more this year when USM rolled out the yearly plans. The savings more than pay for new phones when we want them.
Most of the carriers have more than one level of priority. It is never just de prioritized or not de prioritized. Let's pretend there are five levels verizon will slow down people in level 5 first which would be the cheapest plans, then as the tower gets busier they slow down level 4 and then 3 and then 2 and then 1 only if they have too, so it may say de prioritized but you might be on level 2 on the 60 dollar plan. And depending on your area, you may never see any data slow downs.
@topgunatv so technically when you get deprioritized it's because you're in a very densely populated area. Basically unless you're in a major city like newyork city, or are at a packed sporting event, you probably won't get deprioritized where you would notice it.
This channel got me to try mint mobile. I went from $300 a month to $60.
Have you tried US Mobile? You'll get more with them, and for less.
@@thundergato84 I haven’t. I’m going to take a look at them.
@@thundergato84 love usm
What about visible??
@ThePursuitWODprobably has multiple users/lines on his plan.
What you are forgetting is that the company that owns the cell tower will give network priority to their main customers over the secondary networks. For example if you live in an area with very few cell towers the main carrier will reduce network capacity and capability to the secondary customers giving them slower speeds or drop calls.
The graphics he shows for each carrier/plan indicate if they’re deprioritized or not
This sounds like another "we've found the American" moment lmao
What you mentioned about dropping calls is completely inaccurate. Being deprioritized will not result in calls dropping.
Also, as far as real world use, anything around 30Mbps and above on a smartphone provides basically the same user experience unless you're downloading large files. Whether it actually affects the user experience hinges on whether the network is congested enough that deprioritized users are getting slow speeds, say 10Mbps and under, and that's pretty uncommon nowadays.
Visible is not deprioritized
@@deyeatdapoopoo7582 The main issue with deprioritizarion is network latency and dropped packets. During a recent trip, I tried using an esim service, which i believe operates a way similar to MVNOs, and consistently measured upwards of 30% packet loss and latency of at minimum 300ms. Speedtest showed 25mbps, but i could barely use any social media app as images would fail to load and chat messages were insanely delayed. I think the esim company definitely oversold on their allocated bandwidth, and switching to a different one instantly solved my issues. Both companies used the same underlying company for coverage, one was just super deprioritized. goes to show that mbps is not a super accurate way to measure how useable a carrier is and deprioritization can have super noticeable effects.
I moved to visible from at&t in a semi rural area where ATT coverage was lackluster. I have loved my move to visible. Coverage has been great, speeds are great, and cant beat the price.
Only problem I ever had was when I'm in super dense places like theme parks. Also love Visible. I tell my friends and family but they don't believe it can be that good.
@ Wife has Verizon and when my service sucks hers sucks too. Going to move her over soon.
@@An4lAvengerVisible+ has priority data and is cheaper annually
@Claroboy911 Yes. Never really needed it though. It is funny that the one advantage verizon had, premium data, isn't even on their lower plans anymore. So now their budget plans are just straight up worse than budget carriers.
Visible is such an insane deal. Unlimited everything and very fast with fantastic coverage.
Should I get it is it fast?
@@CTD_Roblox.By-Beansdoes Verizon have good coverage in your area? If so it should be fast. I usually get 10-25mbps on LTE with Visible. Only super rare occasions I notice the deprioritized data (I.e concerts, sports)
@@CTD_Roblox.By-BeansI get about 50-90mbps
On Visible, at home I get 150 to over 200mb 4g. In town at work I get from 3 to 18mb, which is not so good but I can still stream with our buffering. I guess more users in the city where I work.
LOL I’ve been on visible for like a year and you’re full of it. It is not better than my old T-Mobile plan. When I need internet anywhere other than my home it moves at a snails pace.
Stetson Doggett is my GO TO for all things cellular! No other is even close in explaining the ways and means of the cell world. Keep up the good work Stetson!
Thank you!!!
@@StetsonDoggett agreed I saw this first time and this is better than most Marques Brownlee videos - granted its more niched down (but S tier quality)
@@DannyRows oh come on man say the name right. Say it with me now "Mark as# brownee" 😂
You produce very good videos but this one was excellent and you made it so SIMPLE to understand. I just switched from Page Plus over to Visible + for one year. Didn't even have to change my voice mail pin or message. Thanks again for the short and to the point educational video !!
You are so welcome! Glad you found it helpful :)
I've had Visible for about a year now and I've seen the same coverage as Verizon, with 5GUW too. Love it so much
I can't say enough just how much Visible has helped me since 2020 in order to afford not only my phone but my parents phones as well! if it wasnt for them i would be spending $150 but only spend $75 covering 3 phones and it honestly feels great that i can do that for my parents and not have to shell out a fortune for unlimited data since they live in an area where internet service isnt available!!!!
I love Visible. For my line and my husband's line, we only pay $50.00 a month total. I live in the country and we never had an issue. We have been with them for almost two years.
I like how u got a haircut in the start of the video 0:11 😂
He went from shaggy to fred-
lol 😂
Lol what the heck 😂
Thanks!
You are welcome!
I’ve never understood why Phone and Internet plans are SO expensive in the US. I pay £21 a month for Unlimited calls, texts, and minutes for my phone. And £29 a month for 1Gig internet like to my house. For the price of either one of those in the US, I’m getting both 🤷♂️
Here in Italy I pay €24.90 for FTTH 2.5Gbps + €9.99 for unlimited everything on mobile (same carrier)
im paying around 12 euro for 500mbps download and 100mbps upload, why you having so expensive internet everywhere...
What you guys are forgetting. The U.S. is vast with different terrains. New Mexico alone is about the size of Italy and UK. It's easier to paint a bedroom, compared to an entire condo complex. However, not defending the carriers, they're greedy, too.
@@junitolopez3762still smaller than Europe. But yes, density makes a difference.
I'm paying $30 for 10Gbps unlimited internet in the San Francisco Bay Area, but that's through a local internet company. Several cities around the internet have cheap local providers for internet - it's not very widespread yet though.
I have Visable for $25 a month. Great service no matter where I am. 💯
You can sometimes find better deals on visible if you look often, I only pay 20 for the same plan for the next two years.
@@MegaLokopohow ?
Is the basic enough? Fast enough than the premium?
@@cupidok2768 Yes it’s all you need unless you call México or other countries.
@@cupidok2768 Yes, no need for premium unless you go to concerts or other super busy events. I use hundreds of gigs per month and get about 500 down 100 up on a normal day.
Customer support trying to throw deals at u as you’re porting your number. 😂😂😂
Just goes to show how much profit they're making when they can afford to do that 😅
Ain’t this true lmao. I remember when I was trying to move to another carrier, the current company was harassing me with deals.
When I finally moved to another company, the customer service agents of the new company started bothering me with subscriptions plans. Mainly because they make money from selling internet & TV plans.
If only they did that discount before switching😂
The best
Biggest oversight on this is that the premium plans are offering substantial discounts on cell phones with trade ins and the higher costs are in part used to offset. If you’re not upgrading frequently, you’re paying for something you aren’t taking advantage of.
My current wireless carrier is Straighttalk and they use the same towers for 1/2 the price as VZW. Never had an issue with data/reliability.
Bro’s hair changed in the first 13 seconds. 😂😂😂
I had to rewind because I was like “hold up…”
I'm dual siming visible and tmobile. I really like visible. No issues at all. tmobile fell on it's face in remote Arizona and visible worked perfect. Might consider dropping tmobile soon. Especially hearing the rumors of tmobile increasing legacy plans 5 dollars per line.
I used Visible's base plan. Pre paid for one year. 22.50/month. Unlimited data, tethering, text, minutes, etc etc. never had an issue with it. Never been deprioritized either. #NotAnAd
I'm a Flanker customer, i prefer to keep my flanks in my money market accounts rather than a corporation's profit margin. Prepaid customers are supposed to be poor and have crappy credit. ok
I have Visible so I'm also a Flanker. If US Mobile had a longer deal of getting there starter for 23 dollars I would switch. But sense I'm paying 35 a month right now with Visible and it's 29 dollars the six dollar difference is not enough for me to switch.
@@evacody1249I mean 29 bucks for 35gb of priority data.. That’s great. No need for more than 35gb.
I’m millionaire and I have been using prepaid wireless services for over 10 years now. A 80-100 bucks a month plan is beyond insane. The only negative thing about prepaid service is the customer support.
@@jkidd7608 Just had to 🤣🤣🤣👍
@@Brandon_letsgoand that’s partly why you are a millionaire. I still can’t understand why people choose to pay so much more for their service. I presume it has a lot to do with people not being able or willing to put $900 down on a new phone when they want/need to upgrade. But even then Apple lets you finance a new phone at 0% so you’re still making out going to a low cost carrier…
I would love to see coverage maps for commutes. I’m constantly losing signal on my commute and would love to know which carrier would be best so I don’t lose coverage.
I am Korean and I use Seven Mobile, an MVNO of SKT Korea. The unlimited data plan is $15. If I use a regular carrier, it would be $70 or more. I love it!
I love to hear it! You’re saving so much money. Also, would you be able to do me a favor? If you could run a speed test on the Ookla Speedtest app and email the CSV file of the result to hello@coveragemap.com, that would be tremendously helpful! We are looking to expand to support other countries, and we want to see a sample of how some of the data is formatted.
wait so if a MNO has a flanker brand. then how will a separate MVNO compete if they are buying it wholesale directly from the MNO? wont the MNO's flanker brand always beat the prices given by a outside MVNO?
In the US, the 3 main carriers offer $800-$1k discounts on phones, paid out over 2-3 years. Also, family plans (4+) are very competitive, better than prepaid
this is one of the best explanations of mobile networks on youtube right now, thank you so much 🙏
Would have loved to learn more about why they can offer cheap plans. Bundling doesn’t really do much, it’s not like they’re bulk ordering physical product? What about deprioritization or anything else I can’t think of because I’m unaware?
I jave had Visible for years. I almost quit them when my son went to college two states away. He had zero service for at least half of his 5.5 hour drive to school. While i had great service in my area, there were some completely dead rural areas where i had work contracts. As we were having conversations about switching providers, suddenly one day it was as if visible flipped a switch and all of those areas were suddenly covered. I assume they reached an agreement with another cell provider at the time. Most likely us cellular.
US Mobile has been my best switch ever after 10+ yrs of ATT.
Hasn’t skipped a beat and great coverage with Verizon Warp 5G
Nothing beats Visible, their 25$ plan truly does offer uncapped unlimited data and hotspot
@FM-fm2yq they ban you after 1.2 TB, the only actual unlimited plans that won't ban for "network abuse" are the expensive T-Mobile unlimited plans.
I'm going to try US Mobile with the Warp 5G as a secondary line.
@@FM-fm2yq I don’t believe visible offered the international data plans I needed.
I have US Mobile (TMobile) coming from TMobile postpaid and I haven’t noticed any difference. Went from $165/month 2 phones & 2 watches to $90/month for 2 phones on their unlimited premium plan.
Im astonished at how well researched and explained this video is
How are these phone plans restricting you to 480p or 1080p streaming?
The mobile plan price in the US are wild! Internet is way cheaper here in Italy. For a gigabit connection at your home you pay 26 euros on average and for your mobile plan you can pay 8 euros to get up to 200 gb of data per month.
That is because the US supports basically the entire world’s internet in some way. Either through laying fiber in the ocean, satellites, HUGE internet exchange locations like Seattle, funding groups that produce internet standards, and way way more. The cost are mostly absorbed by the local customers and are rarely passed on to regional international customers. Your ISP likely has to invest nothing in comparison and mostly pays for running fiber and a relatively small amount of licensing fees to US based companies for use of their backbone. Even non-US based Tier 1 providers receive a large amount of funding through the US in some way.
You should mention network priority and how many levels each network has.
My at&t bill was $100 a month.... Went to Mint and now I pay $130 for 6 months 😯. Not 1 problem
this video deserves a million likes amazing info!
My Visible hotspot speed goes down to 1-3Mbs between 11 am to 1pm, so streaming sucks during this window.
I’m wondering if this is pretty cheap due to some companies have weird biz operations and sell customers data usages or location etc
You don't think the big 3 sell your data?
It’s the same here in Canada but worse, when they try to make it look like completion is happening, when it’s really not. North America pays so much for cellular plans. Even more in Canada.
Is total by Verizon any good??
It sounds like you’re interested in Verizon coverage. If you want Verizon coverage at a great price, I suggest you consider Visible or US Mobile.
I switched from Verizon to Visable about 6 weeks ago. Saving $40/month was worth it.
I am an old tech guy (I spent my last 12 years in the military in computers, technology and computer, security and networks ) so I am already aware of this information but I forwarded to some of my Retired friends and a cousins text group that I’m on. I hope they find it helpful.
One thing to keep in mind though with the smaller NVMOs is outside of Mexico and Canada most may not have international roaming meaning if you travel a lot internationally or do curises and pay for the insanely expensive cruise ship cell service you won't have that option. Another thing to note is the device selection maybe not as varied as what you would get from AT&t Verizon and T-Mobile and most don't finance the devices. But then again you're just better off buying directly from the manufacturer anyways especially if you happen to like Apple or Samsung
I’ve seen Tello cost like $7 a month in the US (metro pcs budget -> T-Mobile network/unlimited data messaging and voice )
Is Tello a MNVO?
After T-Mobile acquired Sprint our bill for unlimited went from 99$ a month (been a customer with sprint for over 20 years) for 5 lines to 370$ a month. Ended up going to AT&T as we were offered to switch over for just 175$ a month for 5 lines and phone upgrades which I passed on. Definitely feels a lot better with those savings.
What a great video, thank you
Mint mobile was pretty good when it was new. Over time the coverage and service seems to be getting worse. It has lefts without service for days at a time when traveling and as I write this I barely have one bar of service in a major metro area (at home). I didn’t have this problem with Verizon or AT&T. When my pre paid year is up it will be time to seek out better service. What good is saving a few bucks if you literally don’t have service in your own home or you risk getting stranded somewhere with no way to communicate.
True.
I switched my service from Mint to tello. I'm paying about the same, but I'm getting way more!
@@angeldetierra3855 unfortunately I think I’m gonna have to as well
While you made good points, it seems the issue for you may be T-Mobile's coverage in your area, rather than Mint Mobile being sub-par.
@@Brisingr73 mint is now owned by T mobile and always used the T mobile network. Two years ago I had excellent service in my local area. Now I barely get a single bar anywhere I go.
Is it 4 now with boost?
ive gone through metro, boost, att, tmobile, straight talk, fi, and now visible. visible has been the cheapest and best. no data caps or hotspot limit aside from speed, but still the best. Prioritized data does suck when data traffic is high, but thats something i can deal with.
Visible and verizon calculate which customers will be de prioritized next based on the availability of capacity of each individual band a tower is using. So if your data is constantly slow, you can often speed it up by disabling whichever band they are slowing down.
@@MegaLokopo typically I have really high speed data. Only time it has over slowed down to prioritize regular Verizon. Customers was when power went out for half Of the local city so everybody was on their phones. Still had data just very slow. After that it was fine
@@edms3656 Yea, I love visible I use hundreds of gigs a month and like you said, I never see slow data unless there is a good reason, but that is the advantage of living in a large city.
@tunatuna511 nah Cali. This was months ago. Going through a. Heat wave right now though. 115 at home
Off topic but your presentation skills are phenomenal!
Can you keep your number from att to visible ?
I see the prices paid for various verizon plans where I work. Like shoveling money into a pit. Stupid high prices. I pay $15 month for 5 gig plan with Mint
The recent verizon crash left me stranded in Mexico, while working. I had to find a computer and "get" another carrier to continue on with my day and get home. It left me thinking that I really should have some redundancy. What is the best way to add a data only line to a phone that basically works as backup if my carrier fails?
We have metro PCs. We pay $135 for 5 lines. Our 5G is capped but honestly 4G is good enough and many times we are on WiFi at home or work. Call and txt service work great
Used to love visible some how here in PA where i live they wont send me a simcard,they send it but the fedex they are sending the sim to is close crazy times with life in,thinking on another way to get a simcard and be able to keep my verizon phone number.
You can use eSIMs if you have a compatible phone
App does not work in germany. Was not mentioned in the video
Great insights Stetson, Thank you.
I’ve been with Visible for two years now. No problem whatsoever.
This was so insightful! Many thanks and your videos are so easy to understand
Hi Stetson, been watching for years. Why do you think mint mobile isn’t the best anymore?
Visible is far better. The worst thing of mint that holds it back is even on the "unlimited" plan if you go past the data limit which is 30 gigs, they slow you down to 2g speeds which are about 256 or 512 mbps depending on your device. Which is slow enough that most websites even text only websites will time out. So the data is only technically unlimited.
you mean kB/s 250 Mbps are a ton that's 4G/5G speeds @@MegaLokopo
I just recently switched. I was paying almost $90 a month for AT&T. Now I’m paying $25 with boost infinite. Coverage and data speed are fine. My only regret is not switching sooner.
I TRULY am THANKFUL that you can break down some things that 'sound like GREEK to me' (no offense to the GREEK-SPEAKERS out there), so that, I can make an INFORMED decision about the mobile plans out there.
Again, THANK YOU! 😊 😊😊
You are most welcome! 😊
What da hell is this comment
i use visible and it’s not the best but value for money definitely worth it
Oh what kind of Senior deals are there . Mom is making me nuts about to move her to land line. 🤣🤣🤣
I know that US Mobile is more marketed towards seniors
Excellent video. It's really amazing to see how the mobile carrier industry has changed over the past decade.
I remember when AT&T would be very stingy/restrictive about the MVNOs they allow on their network, and now they are going to be US Mobile's third carrier, which I think is crazy.
There is obviously a shift towards making the MNOs increasingly "premium" brands with more bells and whistles (like free Latin America roaming, more hotspot data, and other perks) while leaving the rest of the market to prepaid brands and MVNOs.
@Oldasianguy that's still a far cry from the days where the only AT&T MVNO was H20 wireless that gave you 1GB of data on AT&T's LTE network for like $50.
i love your graphics. well done!
We switched from Verizon to a prepaid carrier a few years ago that is $25/month per line. The reception is much worse but at least its affordable.
Switched to visible and had no issues leaving Verizon. My other half, unfortunately, switched and can no longer send or receive MMS from non-Apple users. We’ve gone thru their support multiple times, reset settings, checked cellular and other iOS settings and e-sims multiple times - still no good. Outside of wiping the phone completely and setting it up as a new phone, we’re stuck.
Anyone have any suggestions to restore MMS function for an iPhone 13 Pro - previously on Verizon with zero issues?
Honestly, they should seriously consider an Android and ditching Apple. I highly recommend PIXEL, Samsung, Motorola, or OnePlus. Get rid of your Apple 🍎 and you'll be happier.
Yo does sprint not exist anymore?
3:07 what are you using to make these animation?
Apple Keynote, believe it or not!
@@StetsonDoggett 💯💯 wow those look great. Thank you for replying
Hey Stetson... I have some possible content for you. If you've already done this, can you link it for me so I can watch your take on it? Anyways, we have AT&T and it's expensive. We are paying on some of our devices as well. I really want to get us into a quality provider with a MORE reliable network. Denver area has been rough, lots of dropped calls, sudden silence, crappy speeds, etc. However, I need a provider that lets us have international calling and messaging because my wife's family is all in Mexico and we travel there yearly. What do you suggest for an Apple user family (MacBook, iPhone 14 ProMax and 15 Pro, Apple Watch series 7 (man and woman), iPhone 14 Pro, iPhone 14, iPad Gen 9).
In Romania i pay 7 dolars for 500Gbit speeds
Xfinity and Spectrum mobile are the leaders for MNVO and for the future potentially. Their hotspots save them so much money. I have unlimited data and pay $29.99 and use like 2GB a month cause places I go have an xfinity or spectrum internet routers which has a hotspot built in. Hence saving them on the data they bought in bulk and then they give someone else my data and free data for a year. So it adds up. Hence how Mint does their discounts for new customers.
So I guess the question is why would anyone pay a premium for the MNO when you can go a MVNO? Is it data prioritization?
If you frequently go to very busy places and must have fast data no matter how busy it gets, paying for the MNO plans makes a lot of sense. I had magenta max for a while, and never saw slow speeds, and I was able to run my home internet off of it through hotspot.
T mobile is trash in the US as well as in Romania?
Boost infinite is postpaid actually, not mvno. They have their own towers although do have some roaming agreements when out of range of their network. (given saw it listed in mvno.) they're the only other nation wide carrier left besides big 3. Least since T mobile is now trying to eat US Cellular.
Most pre paid carriers do not have roaming. So that might effect you if you travel a lot.
Best to have an unlocked phone and use international carriers anyways
Who’s best for a data plan - backup internet ?
Whoever has the best coverage and speeds in your area
I have been using Helium and is fantastic.
Can you do a video on MVNOs with roaming?
Great simple video
If you're in Canada, Public Mobile is awesome. Reward points saved me half a bill, on occasion.
I feel like that coverage app you mentioned is completely bogus, I had AT&T here in Omaha, and it’s awful. Absolutely zero coverage anywhere and yet the app says it’s the best one for my area when Verizon is really the best one in my area.
In UK we got 4 main carriers
How do you make such presentations? I'm looking to make educational videos.
I use Apple Keynote.
Anyone know how much a POTS line costs nowadays?🤔
3:50 the vast majority of mvno's do not exactly provide the same coverage of the parent company.
Thank you Stetson.
You forgot to explain why the dropped calls and data speeds are so much worse on these cheaper MVNOs.
another trade off is these virtual companies usually hire offshore workers, so customer service is usually dogshit
I switched from Visible to US Mobile a few years ago. US Mobile has been awesome and they finally have Apple Watch support. Visible had too many technical issues.
It's a similar story with the pricing model of international airlines. They make a lot more money per unit of space on first and business class than economy class, so that's what they prefer to sell. They know, however, that there isn't enough demand to completely fill a plane with premium customers, so they put economy class in the remaining space so they can fill it up.
Funny thing though I get better quality on AUS Mobile than I ever got on straight up Verizon. So I'm getting First class for economy pricing
Please remember that the Visible plan tax is included.
So's US Mobile.
I just started Visible's 15 day trial. I hope it works out well, researching all of these companies fort he past 3 days is a headache lol
Visible is super location based. In Florida it was a headache. Mint mobile does wonders for me.
@@Cruxis_Angel Im in the middle of Nowhere Ohio. So I'm hoping it works out, I thought about doing Mint. But I figured 15 free days can't hurt to test it out
No idea but I’m glad visible is because that’s what I have
Love your videos, however, my gf decided to try out the us mobile plan with 35GB high priority data on the Verizon network. I’m on Verizon and in no way does she have the speeds I do. It’s abysmally slower yet using same network
What phone did she activate it on?
@@StetsonDoggett iPhone 12 Pro Max
@@DB-qc9bryou should try Visible or Visible+. I can give you a referral code if you need one that will give you $20 off
My theory is that the MVNOs are able to offer plans cheaper than their Big 3 counterparts because they are selling your data in more lucrative ways.
Excellent content
Bro well explained ...
Meanwhile Europe having optical fiber symmetric gigabit link a good ISP provided router and optional static IP for like 35$ after conversion